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France Folds; Suspends Shipment Of Russian Warship - NATO Allies Pleased
France is suspending the delivery of the 1st of 2 hulking Mistral warships to Russia amid security concerns about Moscow's actions in neighboring Ukraine, AP reports President Francois Hollande's office said Wednesday. Hollande's change of mind - as he begs Draghi to devalue the EUR and Schaeuble to lift the deficit limits in Europe - comes at a time when the French economy can hardly cope with losing a few billion (which he previously said was too costly to cancel) but as he explains, Russia's recent actions harm "the foundations of security in Europe." We will see what Hollande got for this... or how he was blackmailed - but for now NATO allies have commented that they "welcome the French Mistral sale suspension."
Despite a possible cease-fire in Ukraine, "the conditions that would allow France to authorize the delivery of the first Mistral-class ship aren't met as of now, " the Elysée Presidential Palace said in a statement released after a gathering of country's defense council around Mr. Hollande.
As AP reports,
France is suspending the delivery of a hulking warship to Russia amid security concerns about Moscow's actions in neighboring Ukraine, President Francois Hollande's office said Wednesday.
The announcement comes a day before the start of a NATO summit and after months of pressure on France from allies to suspend the sale amid tensions between Russia and Ukraine.
Hollande's office, in a statement after he met with top defense advisers, called the fighting in eastern Ukraine "grave," and said Russia's recent actions harm "the foundations of security in Europe."
The Vladivostok, the first of two Mistral-class helicopter carriers ordered by Russia, was to be delivered next month. The second — named Sevastopol, ironically, after a port in Russian-annexed Crimea — has been slated for delivery next year.
Despite talk Wednesday of a possible cease-fire in Ukraine, Hollande said that's not enough to allow France to authorize the delivery of the Vladivostok. His office made no mention of the second warship.
As recently as July, Hollande said the deal was too costly to cancel, and even this week, his advisers had indicated that France was ready to go ahead with the first delivery. In July, the president said that the Russians had paid for the ship, and France would have to reimburse 1.1 billion euros ($1.5 billion) if it cancelled the delivery.
Unyielding to months of pressure from allies — including from some U.S. senators — French officials had argued that France needed to respect an agreed contract, and said recent sanctions against Russia didn't apply retroactively to the contract agreed three years ago.
French officials have also argued that the ship would be delivered without any weapons.
And Bloomberg notes:
- *NATO OFFICIAL: ALLIES TO WELCOME FRENCH MISTRAL SALE SUSPENSION
* * *
How long before France gets special exemption on running bigger deficits?
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Lay off the pipe, bro.
Russia has a hole card, the French Baliff
Cold winter in Paris?
French = Pussies.....
French Pussies Riot
Soon pussy will be their only export commodity.
Chalk up a point for the Rothschild Regime.
Will be interesting to see what Putin does to counter. It will be twice as nasty, guaranteed.
WWIII has not been very exciting.
No.
So far. The "day" is young.
I am looking into several agendas but the day with fireworks is nowhere to be found.
Russia has the design and if they really need it they can build it in the Sevmash Shipyards. It will be funny when the boomerang comes back to hit them in the head!!
And Charles de Gaulle is spinning in his grave...
Makes you wonder what ever became of all that Au that France brought back from Manhattan in it's Naval vessels post Richard Nixon's little announcement that "we don't need no stinken GLD"?...
Those that control the puppets Strings are not those that suffer due to the actions of the puppets and what they do to us. These "Hands" need separation from our elected officials..... who we should be able to trust. Should congress have more power than the Elected? Then, why do they?
Well my 83 year old mother brought up that "scoundrel" Putin this weekend trying to invade Ukraine. I said MOM, what if Mexico or Canada was attempting to join a coerced alliance with RUSSIA which would allow RUSSIA to place nuclear weapons etc. on the borders with our country, WHAT would you do? YES MOM if Russia allows NATO in Ukraine that is exactly what the US will do.
"OH my I never thought of it that way". My mother is pretty well read, she keeps up with a lot but even she fel for the VILLAIN PUTIN propoganda.
AM I WRONG???????
Tell your mom: yer ether wid us, errr again us! Country FIRST !
really funny +++++++
Russia has problems building aircraft carriers because the major Soviet shipbuilding plants were in the Ukraine, in Nikolaev.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_Shipyard
Now, Nikolaev is a dilapidating city. Its plants build nothing.
If Nikolaev were in Russia, it would be a prosperous city, and it would make all kinds of ships.
Novorossiysk
5-stars for the last sentence
Russia doesnt build its own ships?
Meh..the french.
The all new "le warship" - by Renault.
@StupidEarthlings
Stupid. Renault is not good enough for you ? It just happens that Renault-Nissan Group sold 8.1 million cars worldwide in 2012 - behind Toyota, General Motors and Volkswagen for total volume - but more than Ford (5.67 million cars)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault%E2%80%93Nissan_Alliance
Payback is a (bitch) ship. Sanctions are about as useful as a bitch-slapping contest.
This is good news. We can continue to drink Cîroc® Vodka. Hooray!
Suspended does not mean cancelled. Who wants to get Putin gets his boat eventually?
Without any blame, accusations of indictments, why does the word "Pussies" come to mind when I think of the French?
Reminds me of my friends question: If people from Israel are called "Israelites" are people from Paris called "Parisites?"
Print. Inflation is not that prices are going up but that the value of fiat is going down. Buy gold bitchez.
Knowing Putin he will start the construction of two new ships to be the largest Tripple Hull Double Decked Aircraft carrier Battleship equiped with Helli-Lift tech, just to prove a point.
Russia does build its own ships.The big ships and submarines are built at Sevmash Shipbuilding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sevmash
Severnoye Mashinostroitelnoye Predpriyatie, i.e. "Northern Machine-Building Enterprise". Sevmash is the largest shipbuilding enterprise in Russia and today the country's only nuclear submarine producer.
The Mistral was bought by Australia too, Germany wants some...it is a design and France has three
So, it's a design-issue? It is so sad that HR Giger already has passed away bc I would love to see some of his designs back in - yeah, why not? - Russian army.
Does France use a lot of Russian gas? The French do not appear to be a very cold-hardy group.
French chemical industry is unviable without Russian gas
France is far less dependant on gas and fuel than a lot of other countries.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-12/can-europe-survive-without-russian-gas
The French tend to prefer electric heating as 75% of their electricity is produced by their nuclear plants (USA 19%, UK 18%, Japan 18%, Germany 16%).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_by_country
Why do you think gas is used for heating ? Do you have any idea of I N D U S T R Y ?
http://www.factfish.com/statistic-comparison/fr-de/natural%20gas%2C%20co...
http://www.factfish.com/statistic/natural%20gas%2C%20consumption%20by%20...
Ok, but only 14% of French imported gas comes from Russia …
http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/2014/03/03/gaz-europe-france-gdf-ukraine-gazprom-russie_n_4888777.html
BTW, I use gas for heating.
lets see how long this lasts. My guess, they will revert after the summit so people don't get pissed during the meeting and all seem to be in synch (BS face).
France should lend the ships to the Ukrainians while Russia fights it out in EU courts. If the EU courts find that the ships should form part of reparations to the Ukraine, the issue would be closed.
Israeli aircraft should be impounded at Heathrow and held pending reparations to Gaza
Nobody cares about Gaza, including the Gazans. You should know that by now.
Here is a little light Gaza reading:
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htwin/articles/20140826.aspx
Anyone recall Operation Noa 1969 when de Gaulle cancelled boats Israel had ordered and Israel had to go and collect them themselves from Cherbourg ?
There are FOUR Mistrals - two to be built by DCN in France and two in Russia so France has just blown EUR 6 billion. 1000 jobs for 4 years is what it brought a bankrupt shipyard.
It is FRANCE that does not honour contracts not Russia
'contracts'
Like GM or Detroit honoring their contracts?
Wasn´t the Mistral equipped with a lot of hi-tech stuff predelivered from Russia, to fit their spec´s??
If the sell this at bragain to a NATO-country..... interesting to say the least....
Fitted with Decca radar - Russian electronics getsa fitted in Russia. Russian sailors are on the Vladivostok training
Equipment suppliec by Russia belongs to Russia...
It will be stripped off by Russia if the ships are not delivered.
(won't be cheap to replace with equivalent stuff
made elsewhere-- a problem equivalent to fitting
Ford aftermarket replacement parts on to a Toyota)
Russia has not paid France for the Mistral's. The ships were to paid for upon delivery. The first ship is a big dildo stuck up France's ass. France is fucked!
Oh yes it has paid for the Vladivostok......it is a PROJECT not a car purchase - you pay scheduled payments
the Vichy just got in line for 80 Megaton airbursts.
...and France genuflects toward tel aviv.
I think this is good for a number of reasons. First, it will cause more job lose in a sinking French economy. Second, it will stip billions of dollars from a sinking EU economy. Third, Russia is paying way too much for these power projection ships at a time when Russia needs to look to it's self defense, not to power projection. These ship's only role is a peace time role, or small proxy coflicts, but even then they are huge slow vulnerable French floating hotels.
Fuck the EU and their sinking economies. Russia can better spend the billions on state of the art missile and air defense systems. US power in 80% air power, for defense from Obama's war monger insanity, Russia needs robust and capable long range air defense missiles. It really is that simple. Times have changed, these ships are of no real use now.
Fucked all over, a little surrender monkey on the side.
[apologies to FZ]
Just found out: The Mistral is a helicopter carrier (already knew that part).
Helicopters are considered the best anti-sub defense currently (did not know that).
Hence, the Mistral is a powerful form of anti-sub defense.
Those are costal assault ships. They are not ASW. In the US the equivalent are nicknamed "gator freighters" because of the amphibious tracked personnel carriers that are deployed from the well deck.
The helos are troop carriers and attack birds. They could carry ASW helicopters but that mission mainly falls to the destroyers, frigates and cruisers.
Adapt or die. Coming to a "theatre" near you.
The Mistral seems more a big hard to protect target.
Isn't all Black Sea in helicopter range anyway? (And other stuff)
I am not sure what reasoning justified Mistral firstly...
And now with Crimea back, changes a lot.
Plus it gives Putin an opportunity to pound the French for reneging on an openly agreed-upon contract.
Russian officials have repeatedly said that they would accept the French government’s failure to deliver the ships, as long as it paid the penalty for breaking the contract, which, could potentially exceed the cost of the ships themselves.
All agreed. But I believe U.S. will play the sucker role and buy these ships. Somehow.
With hot off the press Federal Reserve Notes.
They will become floating Ebola hospitals.
Agree, too vunerable and at all not effective on a cost basis vs smaller in quantity.
WW2 PT was more effective on cost basis than battleships, needs depends on theatre...Black Sea isn't Pacific
Huge lunking target thing that wasn't going far, what good outside of Black Sea and for how long?
But isn't this basically stealing? Russian made materials and labor in the hull. Russian paid already?
French cannot be trusted.
The Mistral and other Projection Ships would fit nicely in their Defense and Projection Plans. They're finally getting around to ramp up their Naval Construction Plans after years of neglect (thanks in part to the IMF for shafting them);
Besides, Large Afloat Units come in handy when Fleet Assets are deployed in remote locations - especially since they don't have Bases all over the World.
In Russia, delivery take you.
Okay. So you all hate Russia. You all hate France. You all hate Europe, of which of course France is a member. You hate China. You hate Iran. You hate Israel. You hate the United States of America (as long as a colored man is president. Let's face it - if Soetero were white, you'd love him).
So whom do you love, ZHers?
Nobody,
the official hate list btw is:
#1 Jews.
#2 MUZ-lims (unless killing #1)
#3 "those people"
#4 Anybody making minimum wage, double hate points if they bitch about it.
#5 Banksters double points if they are #1, half points if not.
#6 Anybody on welfare, but not if they are on the same Big-Gov scam you are AND OldFarts on SS are exempt too (senior hate discount).
#7 Anybody smarter-n-savvier than you are.
#8 Anybody dumber-n-cluelesser than you are.
#9 Government workers (this should be higher but I don't feel like reorganizing the list).
well done.
Bravo! Excellent job.
No down vote, but pretty sad list. Where is:
the media
illuminati of various types
Soros
scientists
Actually, to most here they would all come under "jooz".
Perhaps this, coupled with the belligerent policies of the NATO Wales War convention, followed by more EU sanctions will convince Russian leaders
that Russia has been targeted for basically the same reason as Iraq and Libya.
It doesn't matter to the US-led coalition whether Russia has WMDs, has invaded anybody, or plans to wipe Lithuania off the map.
Neither facts nor diplomatic means matter now.
No alternative to the petrodollar will be tolerated.
No "adversary" capable of challenging Pentagon full-spectrum dominance will be tolerated. (That's how the Pentagon phrases it.)
Does anybody believe that even if Russia now acceded to all present NATO demands that it would end there? That no new demands would follow? No more sanctions, no more hostile activities?
Why now? It appears the decision has been made to escalate hostilities now before the Russian (and Chinese) position improves. Before Russian-Chinese-BRIC economic cooperation develops further. Before Russian-EU economic cooperation develops further. Before the US-EU economies sink further.
Nothing short of getting another "Yeltsin" to oversee the plundering and balkanizing of Russia will satisfy the US-led cabal.
Non-negotiable "Cold War" has been declared on Russia, and like it or not, Russia will have to fix its policies accordingly.
"Why now? It appears the decision has been made to escalate hostilities now before the Russian (and Chinese) position improves. Before Russian-Chinese-BRIC economic cooperation develops further. Before Russian-EU economic cooperation develops further. Before the US-EU economies sink further."
Agreed.
The US-led Empire is in a race with time to achieve full spectrum dominance before the inevitable collapse, or perhaps even postpone the collapse for a few years by digesting Russia and then China.
Putin is well aware of this, and as his economics advisor made clear in June -
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-06-18/putin-advisor-proposes-anti-dol...
- he is playing for time, firmly, cautiously, with survival at stake. Time for the alternatives to the dollar to develop, time for the dollar's stranglehold to relax, time for the Empire and its network of military bases and financial controls to crumble and NATO to start breaking up - and time for more people throughout the world to wake up and join the resistance!
Save this article as a Web Image, or on paper. Or both. It's key to understanding the Great Game as seen from Russia. If and when the great Web Purge comes you'll be glad you did.
all true of course but the visual of the python trying to swollow the croc, or in this case the bear AND EXPLODING is quite funny.
Have you been paying attention to the stories on ZH? You seem to be a bit confused about who's trying to swallow Ukraine.
lol, read my post again ;)
Got it. Read too fast because I'm supposed to be working.
Putin wants everyone to think Russia is the big swinging dick of the world.
Russia is more like the racing stripe on the underpants of the world.
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somewhere there is a punchbowl looking for a turd
afterthought:
besides what are the odds of getting another combination of pliant "leaders"
like Cameron, Hollande, Merkel, and Harper
along with a US president so adored by the European public?
Man o man, I love ZH! This is not rational nor logical; you would certainly not get this from a seasoned and experienced Russian diplomat or military attache.
Russia's crime was to put its foot down over Syria. That's when this plan began to unfold. All of the money filtered into Ukraine and the anti-Russian propaganda war began within months of the failed Syrian War escalation.
Russia did not stand up for Libya only due to distance, but the fact they kept their word on Syria meant they were not going to lie down and be a bear in the EU zoo, feeding off whatever scraps were part of the world takeover. Oceania wants total spectrum dominance, the entire world, and since they cannot economically take them over in Peace they must force Eurasia and Eastasia into a doubled War (as Peace).
ISIS and other groups will become a fiction for a multiple-front which the US hopes will limit cooperation against them. I am sure they are working on a bogeyman to disrupt China's focus. Poker vs Chess vs Go. There has never been a greater gamble in history.
Russia's best move could be ground support fighters flying out of its naval base in Syria, attacking ISIS positions -and only ISIS positions - inside Syria. They could then say to Obama - you see, no more need to attack targets in Syria, we got it covered.
It would be costly. Russia would lose planes and pilots. Maybe many. But the stakes are very high.
Obama would claim Russia was intervening in the Syrian Civil War. Putin's reply - we are only hitting the forces you, the Pope and the UN called on the world to fight - would be hard to answer.
That would be a brilliant move. I can't think of how that would be countered.
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The NYT and Antlers Phogg Ratsassmutton would run around shrieking like little girls that Russia had invaded Israel.
You are one of those "out of the box" guys I presume.
Russia needs its aircraft to deal with NATO. ISIS is here to stay so get used to it. It will go underground and re-emerge but the US will not destroy it.
excellent idea,
Just one problem with that; there ain't no airbase in Tartus, not even an airfield. Check it out on Google Maps.
Tsar Pointless: Okay. So you all hate Russia. You all hate France. You all hate Europe, of which of course France is a member. You hate China. You hate Iran. You hate Israel. You hate the United States of America (as long as a colored man is president. Let's face it - if Soetero were white, you'd love him).
So whom do you love, ZHers?
You're making an awful lot of silly presumptions. Love and hate may have nothing to do with it. Maybe some of us here are just tired of being played, lied too, robbed, extorted.....and are a bit cynical.
I think everyone loves Canada. You never hear anything bad about Canada.
OK, I'll bite.
Canada's in deep trouble with a deeply compromised government which cooperates ever more closely with Homeland Security and the Pentagon. Canada's much vaunted relationship with the Original Peoples (Indians) is deteriorating badly, and the tar sands mining and fracking are creating a breathtaking (literally) ecological catastrophe.
I used to think New Brunswick and Nova Scotia were so open and lightly forested because they were somehow more arctic, but nothing of the sort. Halifax is no further north than Bangor, and well south of Minneapolis. They used to supply the masts for the Royal Navy after Massachusetts/Maine seceded from the Empire. Now there's hardly a tall tree standing in either province outside of public parks, and the trees that grow get clearcut before they can get very tall. Huge parts of the highlands of New Brunswick are just bare stumps and logging trash as far as the eyes can see.
But for all of that, I feel safer and somehow freer there than I do in the States. It's like a physical tension lifting. Regular folks are good wherever you find them, but somehow even backwoods good old boys in the Maritimes don't have the same kind of brittle edge we do in the States.
It would be interesting to talk about why, but I need to get back to work.
Good people are found all over the world. You typically notice they are in pockets, in small towns and rural areas. I chalk that up to the fact that they spend their lives making decisions for a living. They do not rely on government to solve their problems.
yes, and why would anyone give you negs on this, beats me.
That's an easy question to answer... bad people lurk here.
I hated canada up until seeing that hot tennis pro, eugenie bouchard. Just kidding -- hockey is okay too, you damned hosers!
Yes, Irving only ever appears in the woods with his team of lawyers to work with the media or government. The protected forests are a nice little rent-without-rent scheme for Irving to use the best hardwood available for their toilet paper production. If you own any property next to Irving you might as well cut down the good trees yourself as Irving lawyers know other methods of renting without rent (have experience with this). And the highways have a good barrier of trees and Irving replanting signs so that no one can see the clearcut for the forest.
Good people though. Drink in the kitchen and play forty-fives.
I've been meaning to speak to you about that. A few thoughts:
A fair number of financial industry newsletter writers aren't happy with what they deem to be lapdog, crooked exchanges and regulators, particularly as regards the junior mining sector.
Some Canadian miners seem to have few scruples about shitting up the South / Central American environment, creating unsafe working conditions and turning a blind eye to project inspired execution, persecution and abuse of local protesters.
Canada has seen fit to take the low road of legislatively enabling the confiscation of depositors' wealth to bail out (in?) their own "homegroan" bankster cabal (I hoped for better from them.).
Your cops are thuggish pigs too, including Sgt. Preston.
David Suzuki is a lying asshole.
Many Canadians seem to support their nationalized medical stuff until it hits the fan. Then the whining starts.
I concur with your comments regarding crooked exchanges and regulators. Expecially as they relate to the junior mining sector.
I concur with your comment about David Suzuki. I know some of the cops can be thugs also.
I concur with your comment about the nationalized medical stuff.
Regarding depositors wealth bail in, why would you have significant amounts sitting in a chequing or saving account? If you are smart enough to earn those funds, protect them. If you inherited them and have no understanding of the nature of the global financial marketplace, my condolences.
Because, despite your best efforts to keep her informed, your wife hasn't caught up with you yet in becoming sufficiently red alert alarmed with the banksters' scam(s) and wants "some" funds to remain accessible for possible real estate "bargains" that rear their heads and contingencies. Me, I'm down with you totally, and, yes, some are earned and some are inherited (and incremented).
Hey, you're OK and not insufferable! I'll be glad to swill a pint with you anytime! A complaint I forgot to list earlier - Canada agreed to return our draft evaders. With these wars of empire, we may need to send our kids somewhere out of harm's way.
You never hear anything bad about Canada.
Not true. Some Canadians seem to be a tad too arrogant and bent on the stupid side. You are a perfect example of that category...
We did have a white Soetero, and Americans hated him, especially the racist left
I told you before. We are at the time of unmasking and the truth coming out.
England planned to declare war with Germany before Hitler invaded Poland. Nevermind that Soviets invaded Eastern Poland at the same time, nobody declared war on that Jew empire.
New document proves it emerges from the deep
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2512662/Its-long-winded-What-Geo...
Is it even remotely possible that a major plan is under way that actually involves the coordination of Russia, the EU and the U.S?
Too much is going on too fast for it all to be coincidental.
There aren't enough hours in the day to even analyze all this shit.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/03/ukraine-crisis-gazprom-idUSL5N0R328J20140903
Ouch! This is going to hurt France more Than Russia. Puppets life is no good, indeed - all the time having to follow someone else's orders..
I just can't understand why France did this. Seems a case of everything to lose and nothing to gain.
The US threatened to pull its dick out of their ass, so they folded and spread wider.
This is a NATO rehearsed bargaining chip in advance of the meeting Wales to get Russia to agree to a less attractive deal .
(Who needs a helicopter carrier after the nukes take flight?)
france is controlled by the mossad and mi6.
a dimona mini tactical nuke would of been placed inside those ships putin is crazy to even think about going ahead now.
luckystars: I told you before. We are at the time of unmasking and the truth coming out.
Why yes indeedy!
Apocalypse:An apocalypse (Ancient Greek: apocálypsis, meaning 'un-covering'), translated literally from Greek, is a disclosure of knowledge, i.e., a lifting of the veil or revelation, although this sense did not enter English until the 14th century
True story, people thought the world was ending back in 1492. May have even helped Columbus recruit sailors to sail to the end of the world (or conversely, convinced people the world is ending, as otherwise, why would so many ships sail off to certain doom)
I'll bet Hollande nairs his legs, bathes only once a month and eats slugs from the garden.
Anyway, I digress...
It would be interesting to review the contract.
It would be normal for this type of sales
contract to contain a substantial
"failure to deliver" provision, as well
as late delivery costs....
Oh, well--USAIPAC can easily afford
to reimburse France for all costs
plus wipe the shit off Hollande's
face for failure to honor the contract.
This contract breach will permanently
brand France as an unreliable contractor,
a toadying USAIPAC puppet, and will
seriously affect France's abilityto negotiate
future military and civilian contracts
with any foreign nation--it will also
affect the price that they can ask.
This is one helluva black eye for France
Russia should cancel the order and demand return of any money paid.
Official: Russia To Pay for French Warships Only Upon Full Delivery
http://www.defensenews.com/article/20140812/DEFREG01/308120019/Official-...
This first ship is a huge Obama dildo up France's ass!!
France suspends ship delivery but they will lose more than Russia. They will lose 1,5 billion of dolards and 1100 Jobs.
The French workers must be very happy with his president.
What do they care? The US taxpayers will be the ones eventually on the hook for this....
No, this will be on America´s most potent colony in Europe: Merkel shurely said: no problem, guys.
Watch them try to weasel out of a refund.
According to Pravda (in Russian):
In case of refusal to supply ships already paid, France will have to pay a fine of more than one billion euros.
Load, aim fire and shoot oneself in foot. What bloody fools, unless there are some reslly good sweeteners promised by the NATO 'partners'.
I think this will bring the BRICS countries closer together to create a self sufficient closed shop and we will see the emergence of a "REAL" Common Market that will supply All the needs for every BRICS country, one of those needs will be ship building. If I were Putin, I would send Hollande a polite E mail " Next time we submit big contracts for tender, don't call us, we will call you"
It would not surprise me a bit if one of
the main reasons that Russia ordered
these ships from France (rather than
building them in Russia) as part of a
trade agreement to make it easier on
France to pay for gas purchased from Russia.
you nailed it , that is how France does most of it's business
another example is the World Cup, France sold its vote so that Qatar can win the bid to host the games, in exchange, they invest heavly in France and they did
Any soccer team sponsored by emirate airways (Paris Saint Germain (PSG) in France, Spain same thing: Barcelona (broken Spain also sold their vote to the Qataris) , you can bet safely that a deal was done to invest in exchage for favors
Any news about how much France has paid so far to the US out of the $8.97 billion fine?
BNP Paribas SA pleaded guilty in Manhattan federal court to violating U.S. sanctions after agreeing in July to pay a record $8.97 billion
France shows integrity by putting principles above business interests; ZH predictably loses their shit and spreads insults and lies about France, praises the thug-state Russia.
Very telling.
Hollande, is that you old boy ?
France has principles......my oh my......where did they find them ?
In the month of August 1914 the french suffered 100000 casualties, 'cos their equipment was not at par to fight German heavy canons and rapid fire machine guns; new technology. It was the heaviest rate of casualities registered on the western front througout WW1; right during that FIRST month.
Just goes to show : what the French high command knew about German armements...it was a repeat in WW2, May 1940, when the Maginot got panzered! The people never flinch, their leaders always blink.
The history of France is built on the blood of the people. The arrogance of France is built on the hubris of its ruling class who think they know best; since the Crusades.
Hollande is a typical elitist who talks like a true son of France bUT acts like its elites behind the curtain. Its called "socialism". It has spawned dirgisme which is totally Mussolinien today, aka crony baloney between absolutist state and oligarchy big capitalism; of which the french banks and French MIC are the most blatant examples.
The French Bercy complex, ministry of finance, is now the New Bastille of the Republic. Kafka ville ! All the "hanky panky" is concocted there by the ENA battalions of new Inquisitors and economic shamans. Awesome, just awesome.
Only the NSA and the FED can match that in terms of dystopian and opaque Oligarchical "head up ass" governance.
And it leads to the most awesome about turns and display of soft testicles; when Big Boss Adenoid Hynkel from DC asks for : "you are for us or against us" hey presto service.
Putin in the meantime is creating his web of alternative model for the century.
Its a race to bottom so there is no true paradgim there. But its a true spoke in the wheels of dystopian Pax Americana.
Charles V's empire of our age. Meanwhile ISIS is the conditorri rabble that rapes the ME, Islamic equivalent of Papal Rome of Renaissance tipping times-- of the sacred Oil patch of today.
What principles? You mean the gang-fuck by the West and their Anglo-Zionist masters hell bent on setting up one grand ATM machine for themselves through private central banking and one-world order, which they own and control?
An escargauche display of primitive intellect, worthy of an oaf.
Very telling.
Nothing to do with French principles. It's French White Flag job.
Again
You forget that without the help of the French flags the USA wouldn’t be independent …
Analyse2,
1. Your previous avatar was better.
2. De Gaulle was a man of courage and dignity and would not exhibit a spine of jelly as Hollande has done.
3. You are, of course, correct about French help for US independence.
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Nice to see a valid and sensible comment among all this "jokes" (silly and full of hate).
1. Apparently you prefer the Suricate than Pinky - I hope you'll like the next.
2. About De Gaulle and Hollande you are right.
3. About the French help for US Independence, you are right too. It's a pity than it bothers so much the Americans, or that it is not teached in the schools.
Not the same genetics as back then....
Yes, indeed .... french principles.
Wasn´t there Sarkozy lending 42 Million Pound from Ghaddafi for his election campaign and paying it back by participating in his death ... ?
That was truly telling about french principles, dear boy.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/nicolas-sarkozy/9139310/Nicola...
good job France in figuring out that Russia won't be paying you for your shit technology
Even if France does now decide to sell the ships to someone else, it will have to refit them, as every aspect, from the helicopter pads to hull alloys is custom-made to Russian specifications.
source: http://rt.com/news/184848-france-mistral-delivery-russia/
Maybe the half-finished hulks can be left in dry dock and converted to homeless shelters for all of the soon-to-be-unemployed ship builders.
French domestic politics should be REALLY interesting in about 2 months.
It was Victoria (fuck the EU) Nuland, Barry's US administration and neocon advisors that fomented the violent overthrow of the Ukrainian govenment to put in power the puppets now in power in the Junta government. A lot of disinformation, lies and propaganda demonizing Putin and Russia, but who are really the thugs in all of this?
Yer either wid us, errr again us! Love it or leave it hippy! Country FIRST!
(And get a goddamn haircut!)
Guess they(Russia) will just have to get a couple from their new trading partner, China, and do the deal in local currencies to keep the west out of it. Probably be better AND cheaper then the French made crap anyway. If their (france) ships arn't any better then their cars, I wouldn't want to go to sea on one, let alone into a battle. {grin}
this is TOO funny, I had to post it (saker)
It appears that Francois Holland, aka "soft testicle" (nickname given to him by Martine Aubry, First Secretary of the Socialist Party of France), has outdone even Tony Blair as the US's most docile poodle in Europe.
Jacob Cohen "Documenterview"https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLzHtFW-mC6vGh07g8RK7sUITTYsQYBlN0&v=...
Give it a couple of days and they will be for sale on ebay. There will be 2 bidders a guy from Irag called Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and a Gentleman from Russia VladTheBlackbeltBear.
As long as they don't show up in a pool in Ferguson, Mo.
http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/742884
Russia’s First Deputy Prime Minister said the Russian ship would be better than the Mistral because it would be ice-strengthened and would be capable of operations in Arctic seas.
“I don’t think the renunciation (of supplies of the Mistrals) is highly beneficial for the French President and will cause a big crisis at the shipyard that is building these ships,” Rogozin said. “Also, the French will have to pay a penalty as all these things are mentioned in the contract.