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9/11 - The Ultimate Litmus Test
9/11 - The Ultimate Litmus Test
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Cognitive Dissonance
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Thirteen years ago the world changed; though it is only with the benefit of perspective may we clearly see the extent and duration of that change. But change it did and remarkably so after perspective is found and the world is seen for what it really is rather than what we are told it is - or what we want it to be based upon our own cultural conditioning and personally biased worldview.
This is not to say I see clearly, that I possess an unbiased mind, special insight or clarity of vision. Far from it in fact. On a daily basis I fight the tendency to develop a rigid mindset and view the world through that comforting lens. To help me resist this temptation I must constantly remind myself a static world view often results from my need to feel I can understand and control what is at times incomprehensible and most certainly uncontrollable. I have learned from personal experience the more I feel out of control the more I will try to exert control. It is a battle I will lose every time if I engage.
There is so much intentionally created confusion and misinformation out there that anyone claiming to know exactly what is going on is either tragically self deluded and living in a fantasy world, ideologically deaf, dumb and blind or a misinformation agent attempting to muddy the waters some more. I am not sure if anyone knows our true history anymore, including those entities busy rewriting it at this very moment.
That said, a huge and tragic mistake made by nearly all of us (not just the mainstream media contrarians reading this) is to assume we must have in place a complete and detailed historical narrative, including names, confessions and the smoking gun, before we discard the previous one, particularly if the one being discarded is ‘official’. This is of course a ridiculous requirement since from a logic and common sense point of view one is not required to know what is right in order to declare something wrong.
This incredibly effective controlling mind meme has become so thoroughly embedded within the collective consciousness that even so-called critical thinkers repeat this demand of anyone approaching them to request they re-examine their beliefs and consider alternatives. I am speaking directly to you and me, the alternative media reader here. This is a demand I might add we would unilaterally reject as preposterous if applied to our own ‘profession’, but which we gratefully embrace when protecting our cherished belief systems regardless of whether it is the official narrative or a contrary point of view. At times we are all trapped by our rigid thinking.
Even those who have rejected the official historical account of > fill in the blank < as balderdash are often quick to offer up an alternative thesis lest they be perceived as less than credible, competent or even (perish the thought) a conspiracy theorist. This is greatest mind killing, thought stopping epitaph ever created by the thought control police since accusations of witches, warlocks and devil worshipers were used to control dissenting thought. Regardless of your mind set one must admit this is brilliantly applied mind control technique via co-opted language and the hive mind. Score one to the CIA for that little gem.
The fact is liars lie and those who profit from lying, and by profit I don’t mean exclusively financial, will lie until the cows come home and “We the People” are pacified (or at least mentally, physically and emotionally disarmed) once again. Thus it fascinates me to no end how in one breath someone will declare all politicians and government officials are liars and corrupt, and in the next vigorously defend what ‘their’ lying politician and authority has claimed is the God’s Honest Truth and the ‘official’ story. And with a pinky swear no less.
“That’s my story and I’m sticking to it…..until I claim to have misspoken and we start all over again.”
Of course this almost always applies to the really big lies, the ones everyone can comfortably believe since no one would ever tell a whopper like that. After all, we can bitch and complain all we want about the effects of the corrupt system, but we must never fully question the very basis of the corrupt system itself for this will force us to question ourselves and our part in the charade. Careful we don’t bite the hand that feeds us……even if what we feed upon are ‘just’ yummy emotional security tidbits and a ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’ affirmation of what is ‘normal’……so long as we don’t look beyond the paper thin veneer.
This neurosis of ours is skillfully played to the hilt, both by those who lie to us and by those who wish to be lied to. Truth be told we all enjoy a comforting lie now and then, just as long as it fits reasonably well within our overall worldview and inner narrative. In this way we are able to have our cake and eat it too, to both believe the (big) lie while not really believing (all of) it. Just don’t look too closely at the glaring conflicts and omissions in the official and alternative narratives, while at the same time looking just close enough to substitute in something that better fits into our own personal and infinitely customizable view of the world.

Which brings me to the subject of this article, “9/11 – The Ultimate Litmus Test”. Let me declare upfront that I ‘know’ two things with an extremely high degree of certainty about 9/11.
Number one, I have no idea exactly what happened on that brilliantly blue second Tuesday in September, let alone who and what was behind the event. And anyone who says they do is either blinded by their ideology, full of self deluded bullshit, or the mastermind of the entire operation. Please note I said EXACTLY. I know a lot about 9/11 and that is the problem. What I think I know is far greater than what I actually ‘know’. With that in mind I try to remind myself I have just enough information to make me dangerous to myself and no one else.
I am very comfortable stating for the record I ‘know’ almost nothing with absolute certainty about 9/11 and much of what I suspect happened on that beautiful fall day is little more than opinion and supposition. The only (slight) advantage I may have over many others when considering this subject is I wasn’t as deeply imprinted psychologically that morning/day because I was recovering from emergency surgery the night before and was enjoying the sweet bliss of a doctor prescribed morphine drip.
It was truly remarkable and quite surreal watching huge buildings disintegrate into dust with no emotional involvement or investment on my part. I know I upset several traumatized nurses and doctors that morning with my unsympathetic appraisal of the unfolding Psyops. Even in my drugged state I could recognize a con when it was being foisted upon us. But knowing something is a con and knowing how the con is run and who and what are behind it are two very different balls of tangled yarn.
It is the ultimate of egoic arrogance and hubris, which itself often carefully conceals our fear and emotional insecurity, for anyone to declare they ‘know’ who, what, when, where and why when in fact most of what they ‘know’ is at best supposition, hypothesis and logic based guessing. Naturally most of us get around this by asserting we ‘know’ most of what happened and would know all if only those dirty rotten bastards would come clean and spill the beans.
It is one thing to point out logical inconsistencies, outright contradictions and false statements in the official narrative, not to mention deliberate omissions and the obscuring of information. It is another entirely to state unequivocally ‘we’ know this or that, then point to the problems within the official narrative as ‘proof’ we are correct.
This speaks directly to the neurotic need of so many contrarians (that means you and me dear reader) to present an alternative explanation to replace the one we reject in order to appear credible. Why in the world are ‘we’ so worried about appearing credible to those who have no intention of believing anything other than what they wish to believe? And yet ‘we’ do.
Number two, the official 9/11 cover story stinks worse than two week old fish in August and is so full of holes it contains no substantial factual ‘truth’ to speak of other than bits and pieces here and there held together with baling wire and chewing gum. This is not to say there is no ‘truth’ (maybe I should say ‘fact’ since truth is often subjective) in the story.
Any competent liar will insistent a critical ingredient when concocting a successful (read plausible) lie is to mix just enough truth, especially self damaging truth, into the fetid cesspool of deception, deceit and duplicity. The best ‘genuine imitation’ stew is the one that contains a little real beef mixed in with the chunks of mystery meat and salmonella.
The ‘official’ 9/11 cover story is so full of crap the smell test alone is the early warning sign to fumigate and then repeatedly flush while hoping the septic tank or municipal sewer system can handle the mess without backing up. However the brilliance behind this treachery IS the cover story, as is the case with all reasonably well executed cover stories regardless of how transparent it might be. Enough ‘truth’, omission, scapegoats, blind alleys, false leads, backtracking and ideological red herrings has been seeded into the official cover-up to keep EVERYONE on both sides of the aisle endlessly chasing their tails. A true one-size-fits-all disinformation narrative if ever there was one.

For those who don’t wish to acknowledge the extremely uncomfortable truth they are sleeping with the enemy (meaning the mainstream media mesmerized) there are just enough self damaging ‘facts’ mixed into the official stew to ‘allow’ them to believe any variety of alternative narratives that point towards governmental/military incompetence, bald faced greed and self dealing, cover-your-ass bureaucratic backpedaling, terrorist ‘bad’ guys who hate-us-for-our-freedom let-me-sleep-like-a-baby ‘beliefs’.
Just as long as ‘we’ are given whatever it takes to avoid looking too closely into the black abyss and seeing ‘us’ for what ‘we’, as well as those formerly and presently in power, really are. After all I can call my wife a whore or my government a killer of its own citizens, but if you say that…well, them thar is fighting words.
Then there is the so called alternative point of view championed by a witch’s brew of dissenting, disaffected and downright angry individuals and small groups who, sadly and unfortunately, have been thoroughly infiltrated and mostly disarmed by the grand keepers of The Big Lie.
That neurotic impulse previously mentioned, of the need to present a complete and plausible alternative explanation when rejecting the official narrative, is expertly used to leverage every possible alternative account regardless of how plausible, or not, it may be. So long as everyone is going nowhere we can spin our wheels to our hearts content while the Grand Parade marches on. Lots of smoke, but no fire, is the objective of the disruptors and disinformation peddlers.
Not only does this keep the minions busy fighting among themselves, but anyone on the outside brave enough to fight back their inner fear of leaving the Matrix and taking a peek inside the alternative reality world is quickly spooked back to dry land by the absolute insanity and brutality of the alternative blogosphere. This is as much by design as by happenstance. Some people are truly just trolls and some are agents of the system hired to send the rabbits out of their holes and into the waiting arms of the existing insane asylum. And sadly some just follow the leader troll and act out their inner aggressions.
Somewhere in the middle of the true crazies screaming bloody murder, the misinformation agents acting out their roles as either crazies or ‘experts’ (and sometimes both), the mostly well intentioned individuals just seeking to find some answers amongst the deafening roar, and the vast silent majority of the minority, those who are truly frightened and confused and who just want the insanity to go away so they can go back to some sort of peaceful sleep, lay the ‘truth’ - slowly being starved to death for lack of nutrition and nurturing by all parties involved.
Contrary to the alternative universe crowd’s present day self image, the desire to go back to sleep seems to be the case for a large and growing population of frightened angry people who are skillfully manipulated, or at least herded, into self destructive actions, self defeating chest beating and righteously indignant late night screaming by way of blogging and posting passionate diatribes via the Interwebby – on occasion this author included.
Mission accomplished as far as the controllers are concerned. Better to have the disaffected corralled in the cattle shoot snipping at one another rather than out in the streets directly confronting authority or taking incremental steps towards slowly withdrawing from the enslaving system. Impossible you say? These human psychological bomb defusing and disposal techniques are older than Jesus Christ himself, stretching back to well before the Roman Empire. All the way back in fact to the Egyptian pharaohs.
[On a side note a totally fascinating and somewhat well documented theory posits that Christianity was created and/or hijacked by the Romans to counter and defuse what was at the time a militantly violent and revolutionary Jewish religion bent on the overthrow and destruction of the Roman Empire in what we today call the Middle East.
Have you ever seriously considered why the Old Testament is so militant and violent while the New Testament is essentially passive? Or pondered why the Jewish faith does not accept the New Testament? Talk about hijacked; if even slightly true, consider the similarities between this theory and what is happening within and to the Muslim religion today by forces outside and within that faith.]
Remarkably, while ‘our’ recorded history has been repeatedly distorted, re-written and omitted time after time, the distortion techniques used are all very well documented and displayed in plain sight for all who are not ideologically blind to see. In my opinion this is a not-so-subtle middle finger to those who claim to be right minded and on the side of truth and justice for all. Essentially we are being told, “This is what we do and how we do it. Whatcha gonna do about it fool?”
How do you defeat someone or something much larger than you? Ask any martial arts or military strategy expert and they will tell you the secret to their universe in a few choice words………deception and leverage. Instead of acting to protect ourselves from the predators who use these techniques against ‘us’, we enable them by destroying ourselves and those around us. Just spend a little time studying some recent history from the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s for some examples of self destruction, though I suggest you stay away from the official cover stories endlessly repeated via history textbooks and encyclopedias.
Have you ever wondered what happened to the various ‘popular’ movements and uprisings of those three decades? Again and again and again agents acting in the interest of the power elite and status quo infiltrated anything perceived to be a threat in order to sidetrack, dissolve or outright control any and all ‘subversive’ groups using polarizing techniques that are timeless in their effectiveness and efficiency.
There is only one rule to follow for all centers of power and that is to protect and preserve that power. This applies whether the power resides in governments, (central) banks, corporations, kings, pharaohs or Caesars all the way down to petty school yard bullies and megalomaniac Wal-Mart assistant managers.
If it is newly consolidated power acquired with the ‘consent’ of the people then initially those catered to will be “We the People”. But over time, as the absolute power corrupts absolutely, the fastest and easiest way to remain on top is through increasingly more widespread corruption via confiscating the wealth of the people and then spreading it among those few elite most able and available to assist in the maintenance of that power. Thus corruption spreads and infects everyone including “We the People” who in many cases must resort to these same methods in order to survive within the insanity. Either we become the mob or we die by the mob.
While anything goes in the pursuit of this goal, towards the end of Empire (regardless of the size of that empire) increasingly more ruthless and ‘efficient’ methods are employed to control the herd as the facade that originally kept “We the People” sedated and sated, or at least at bay, dissolves into an orgy of excess and opulence for those who ‘have’ and oppressive drugged drudgery for those who have not, all while “We the People’s” remaining money and wealth are debased and destroyed.
Actually I misspoke at the top of this article (to use that wonderful Newspeak term politicians love to use when backtracking in a hurry) when I said the world changed back on September 11, 2001. What changed was our perception, our worldview, in what was the largest real time experiment in mass hypnosis and perception management ever attempted in order to justify what was already in the works. Problem…Reaction…Solution in all its ugly glory writ large, live and in living color on nearly every TeeVee in the world.
Just because we were witness to such monstrous depravity as to curdle mother’s milk in situ doesn’t mean we cannot sit back and admire the craftsmanship and chutzpah, the grand illusion both as it unfolded and afterward, as it roiled and regurgitated in the world’s gut like a half digested Thanksgiving feast with no bicarbonate in sight.
One must vigorously applaud the spectacle of being told in real time to ignore our lying eyes and ‘believe’ what we are being told, then over the following months and years to backtrack, misspeak, re-speak, doublespeak and un-speak as the initial lie is reformed, refined and rammed up our butts ever deeper, all while we beg for more while cowering from the ghosts of terrorists past, present and future.
It was and remains a masterful job, simply masterful, despite its glaring and painfully obvious miscues, screw-ups and blatant public perception manipulation. If nothing else we have learned it doesn’t matter how obvious the lie is if people don’t want to know the truth. “Tell me another lie Dad so I can believe it’s the truth. Everything is gonna be OK, right?”

So exactly what is this litmus test I’m talking about and how does it apply to you and me. Well, it depends upon who ‘you’ are. I have repeatedly stated that what is not said is often far more important then what is said. For those who hold the ‘public trust’, a title that extends far beyond public servants such as politicians and other ‘officials’, if they continue to uphold the overall ‘official’ 9/11 story even while questioning it in a roundabout manner, it is in my opinion the litmus test.
Worse I have grown weary of the disingenuous argument put forth by some that to speak frankly in public about 9/11 will destroy their credibility and thus their effectiveness as they battle the Empire from within. If one does not speak out against the Empire, yet one derives power from the Empire, ‘one’ is little more than a lackey and controlled opposition to/of/for the Empire. One ‘fact’ is becoming crystal clear as we progress deeper and deeper into this insanity. The Empire serves The Empire and only those who serve The Empire. Period!
At some point down the road to total corruption all energy expended by The Empire, and those who suckle from The Empire, is directed towards sustaining and defending The Empire. From that point on one is either serving that purpose (and lackeys, useful idiots and controlled opposition most certainly do) or one is expelled by The Empire from the (inner) circle of The Empire. Thus any chance one might have had to ‘change’ The Empire is lost………because there was never a ‘chance’ to change it from within to begin with.
I am not calling out anyone in particular because doing so would serve no purpose other than to start a shouting match and further the ‘divide and conquer’ technique those in power use to control and subvert those who are not in power and might otherwise have a voice. I have no doubt many who profess to be battling The Empire from within truly believe they are doing so. That said ultimately it does not change the fact that at best, in the eyes of The Empire, they are useful idiots regardless of whether they know or care they are.
But the second part of the 9/11 Litmus Test applies to everyone else who believes whatever they want to ‘believe’ regarding 9/11. I don’t care which side of the fence we are on, either pro or anti official story or anywhere in between, because it really doesn’t matter. If our view is fixed and unmoving, or worse, confined to a small narrow space where we can maintain the illusion of intellectual flexibility, we too are useful idiots and pawns of The Empire. Notice I say ‘we’ because I am not immune to this infection.
The Empire cares not what we think so long as we are safely corralled within thought boxes and mind memes. Just as long as we hope/expect/pray change is coming, even if that change is believed to spring from collapse brought about by corruption, fiat debasement, loss of dollar reserve status, foreign overextension of empire, foreign or domestic war, whatever the case may be, we for the most part will remain in place feeding the beast……even while we make plans and prepare for “The End of Empire”.
This holds true even for those who choose to believe little to no change is coming, essentially another of the ‘official’ stories we can all believe in. If I can convince myself things will work out, that all we need to right the ship of state is a different President, Congressional critter or some new laws forcing ‘them’ to stop messing things up (read that as change without…well, you know…’change’) then once again I render myself impotent and from The Empire’s perspective safely on the sidelines biding my time while still participating in the Ponzi and feeding the machine.
What 9/11 did, quite effectively I might add, is violently and dramatically change and focus the world’s perspective in general and the average American citizen’s in particular. A ‘new’ boogeyman was created in order for attention to be directed towards a specific area, which just so happens to draw attention away from another. Thirteen years later the intended consequences are still being implemented. As long as we remain mesmerized by the symptoms of the disease we remain effectively disabled from dealing with the root cause of our illness. Mission Accomplished!
It is time to wake up and head deeper down the rabbit hole. Contrary to popular belief ‘our’ collective problems will not be solved unless and until our inner dysfunction and insanity are confronted and recognized. We are our own worst enemy; a quaint saying everyone thinks applies to others and not to ourselves. As long as ‘We the People” continue to believe this fallacy the ancient divide and conquer techniques will reign supreme.
The 9/11 Litmus Test is not about what we know or don’t know, but how we deal with our knowledge and ignorance as well as ourselves while doing so. Once we begin to lift the veil of ignorance and ideology we are like sharks; either we keep moving forward or we die. There is no more treading water for that is reserved for those left behind.
09-10-2014
Cognitive Dissonance
The answers are not black and white, but gray all over.

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Excellent description of the importance of frictional resistence to free fall for an object in a gravitation field. The way I would look at the role of gravity and force is to recognize that no energy is created by when an object falls. Instead, its potential energy, mgh, is converted to kinetic energy 1/2mv^2. But this energy conversion isnt't perfectly efficient if there is resistence to free fall (a feather doesn't fall at the same speed as a bowling ball because of air resistence, but would in a vacuum where no energy dissipation can occur).
Now let's apply this principle of energy conservation to the collapse of a building. The maximum speed of collapse of the building is the rate of frictionless free fall (like a brick dropped from the top floor). Any resistence to the fall such as structural members partially supporting the upper floors causes the time for the roof to reach the ground to be less (just like the feather takes longer than the brick). So, what was the time observed from video for the roof of WTC7 to reach the ground? The same as for a brick dropped from the same height within experimental error. That means no resistence to free fall between floors. That means you must remove the support from the ground working on up sequentially so everything can collapse at the maximum rate and all the stored gravivation potential energy gets converted into kinetic energy and ultimately into heat. Sort of like the fate of the universe, but I digress.
So, the official story for the collapse violated the most fundamental law of physics, conservation of energy. As you pointed out where's the "extra energy" coming from to allow this violation (well timed explosive charges would do nicely wouldn't they as controlled demolition experts know) Its really that simple. But the idiots telling the official story forget about this problem with their myth. If their story is true conservation of energy, and all of known physics is wrong.
" As you pointed out where's the "extra energy" coming from to allow this violation (well timed explosive charges would do nicely wouldn't they as controlled demolition experts know) Its really that simple. But the idiots telling the official story forget about this problem with their myth. If their story is true conservation of energy, and all of known physics is wrong."
It is not really that simple, as there was no evidence of well timed explosive charges going off.
"So, the official story for the collapse violated the most fundamental law of physics, conservation of energy"
The laws of physics were not broken, regardless the number of times Goerbels repeats it. Once support in the fire zone gave way, there was no stopping a complete collapse of the Towers.
"So, the official story for the collapse violated the most fundamental law of physics, conservation of energy"
The laws of physics were not broken, regardless the number of times Goebels repeats it. Once support in the fire zone gave way, there was no stopping a complete collapse of the Towers.
Down arrows do not change the laws of physics. The fire caused collapse of the Towers did not violate the conservation of energy.
Of course the laws oh physics were not broken - that's why we're calling the report bullshit, because the report states things that are physically fucking im possible and ignores any bit of evidence it finds inconvenient.
"Once support in the fire zone gave way, there was no stopping a complete collapse of the Towers."
Happens all the time since they began erecting steel framed skyscrapers. A complete collapse. Got it.
/sarc
MoneyBots is one of them.
"Once support in the fire zone gave way, there was no stopping a complete collapse of the Towers."
Happens all the time since they began erecting steel framed skyscrapers. A complete collapse. Got it.
/sarc
What a silly comment, DC. Jetliners do not fly into skyscrapers every day, setting them on fire, burning completely out of control.
A complete collapse was impossible to prevent from occurring, once the structure was no longer able to hold up the floors in and above the fire zone.
Steel framed, but not concrete lined. Tube within a tube design. Those details matter. It set the Towers apart from other steel framed buildings. Structural failure in the fire zone sent the top 15 floors down upon the 95th floor. There was no way that each next floor down could withstand tons of debris falling onto it. It is wishful thinking that the Tower would not have collapsed completely.
Thank you for expressing your opinion. I have expressed mine.
If NIST would simply open their files and expose all the 'evidence', assumptions, spreadsheets and computer programing they used to come to this conclusion I would be happy to 'debate' it with anyone. Since they refuse to do so, meaning they will not expose their 'work' to peer review, I will ignore their conclusions and yours. You are most welcome to ignore mine.
What you just said is incorrect. You cant bend science to fit your narrative. No concrete? Correct, structural STEEL! Steel still has mass and density! Therefore, tere is still a transfer of energy that needs energy to overcome the dormant mass! Why cant people like you understand this?
Also, these is not aenough kinetic energy in a jet airliner to PERFECTLY fracture STEEL over millions of cubic feet, if it DID the buildings would have collapsed INSTANTLY! These are facts you cant dismiss, unless of course youre paid to dismiss them, then thats sad.
"What you just said is incorrect. You cant bend science to fit your narrative. No concrete? Correct, structural STEEL! Steel still has mass and density! Therefore, tere is still a transfer of energy that needs energy to overcome the dormant mass! Why cant people like you understand this"
I am not bending science to fit any narrative.
STRUCTURAL STEEL. All caps. so what? A flange holding the floor truss to the exterior column section was no match for tons of debris collapsing onto to the floor, regardless how much STEEL was in the column. The dormant mass of the flange was no match for the kinetic mass of falling debris, which is why the towers collapsed as fast as they did. Why are you trying not to understand that?
"Also, these is not aenough kinetic energy in a jet airliner to PERFECTLY fracture STEEL over millions of cubic feet, if it DID the buildings would have collapsed INSTANTLY!"
Which has nothing to do with major fire weakening enough of the structural steel, to cause a catastrophic failure of the building.
It is like pointing at kerosine, while ignoring the floor to ceiliing flames caused by the burning office combustibles.
CIA 911 whistleblower susan Lindauer, a must listen...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G43zl4fzDQg
The only 'truth' about 9-11 is that we will never know the truth. It's like the Kennedy assassination...theories abound, but no definitive answers are forthcoming...
What I DO know, without a doubt, is that any official 'explanation' is or will be, a lie. As will almost all of the unofficial explanations.
There IS no truth. Only versions of a story told by people according to their own preconceived notions. To be believed or rejected by others, on into the foreseeable future.
If we're still here years from now, our great great grandchildren will watch the Zapruder film, and the shots of the towers falling, and still won't know for sure what happened in either case.
It would be easy to find the truth about this. Just get everyone who wants to know to put $10 into a fund. There has to be at least 100 million people that want to know. That's a billion dollar rewward to someone involved to spill the beans. Somone will definitely talk for that kind of money. Sad thing is people don't care enough to contribute the cost of 2 cups of coffee for something so important. This is the world we live in.
Not necessarily. Believe it or not, there ARE people who don't care about money...they do the things they do for other reasons.
I would think such a large conspiracy would have many such folks involved in it. Doing what they do for reasons we cannot fathom, or wouldn't believe or understand if they told us.
Never thought of it like that. We really are fucked, arent we?
I suspect you may very well be correct. Thus my constant effort to find some inner peace so that I may grow from this rather than be further debilitated from constant stress and discord. If I do not grow from this I will surely live a poorer and less healthy life for not having done so.
We always have a choice. We can decide to grow from our painful experiences or we can decide to wither away and be consumed. I choose growth.
This is all we can do. I also choose not to waste any more agony over worrying and wondering at this big old clusterfuck of a world we've created.
Complain? Well sure, I'll do that...I've a right to. But I no longer believe things CAN be fixed...not because they can't, but because there is simply no will to do so, and I can't very well do it myself.
But I CAN choose not to participate. I can decide to see myself as a "Bemused Observer", and shake my head in wonder at the stupidity and waste. I've become cynical, and while I won't sabotage the 'cart', I sure won't help pull the damned thing anymore.
Physics is truth, that much you cannot deny. So keep this in mind. Whenever energy tranfers from one object to another, there is always a loss of energy without a source of energy to replace it. Thats really all you need to know. So for buildings to collapse the way they did 13 years ago, is most certainly impossible, with the explanation givin by the .mic. Again, energy will not INCREASE when faced with an amount of dormant energy that is greater than the amount of energy that is trying to overcome it.
Example. if your car produces 400 HP, it does NOT produce 400 HP at the wheels, due to the loss of energy during the transfer of energy. This is referred to as WHP(Wheel Horse power or if you are British, BHP Break Horse Power)
If the physics of the official story of 9/11 is to be believed, you should be able to produce a car that not only has 400 HP, but has 600 WHP. This is a physical impossiblity with all known laws of physics. It just cant happen. You will always have loss of energy in mechanical transfers of energy. Hope this helps.
"Physics is truth, that much you cannot deny. So keep this in mind. Whenever energy tranfers from one object to another, there is always a loss of energy without a source of energy to replace it. Thats really all you need to know. So for buildings to collapse the way they did 13 years ago, is most certainly impossible, with the explanation givin by the .mic. Again, energy will not INCREASE when faced with an amount of dormant energy that is greater than the amount of energy that is trying to overcome it"
There was no dormant energy that was greater than the amount of energy to overcome it, once the structure gave way in the fire zone. Tons of debris falling onto each floor would easily have stripped the floor from the flanges that held the trusses to the exterior columns.
As can be seen in the collapse of Two World Trade, debris fell down from above the bowed in columns and debris then quickly cascaded to floors immediately below the bowed in columns and the process kept feeding on itself, floor after floor, with nothing to stop it from progressing all the way down to the ground.
Jesus! Stop.....just....stop.....seriously....
"Jesus! Stop.....just....stop.....seriously...."
They should, shouldn't they.
You are forgetting gravity (the most powerful force). No gravity is involved in transferring engine power to wheels. Though, there is one thing that I have always remembered clearly from 13 years ago. In OBL's video recording he said that he was 'surprised' that the heat from the jet fuel was enough to bring down the buildings. Why was he surprised if that was the plan? Or was 'he' surprised because everyone who saw it was surprised?
You bring up a good point about gravity. However gravity dosent create force, it is force, therefore it cannot create energy, since it is energy. How can I explain this....? Okay...think of it like this. You have X which is the top of the broken building, Y is the section of the building that is damaged, Z is the whole in the building, and B is the rest of the building that is intact. Gravity will take advantage of Y due to the wieght of X, so X should fall to the direction of Z until it reaches B due to G (Newtons Law). Since G is a constant it cannot make B less or more of an immovable object. And since the mass and density of X is far LESS than that of B it cannot overcome it without the help of an external source of energy.
This is important! At no time should X not follow Newtons Law, which it does by NOT falling into Z! This cannot be stressed enough. Gravity works with mass/density just like water, it will ALWAYS follow the path of least resistance, up until the point where it is acted upon by an equal or greater force, in this case, the rest of the building (B).
In order for gravity to have had any affect in this case, the ground beneith the towers would have needed to increase in DENSITY (more gravitational force) to over come the structural design. All buildings are designed to withstand the Earths gravitational pull which is due to Earths mass/density. Hope that clears up the gravity debate. Im tired. And could have explained it better. Gravity is hard to explain without stupid equations, and doing the equations for what im trying to explain would take hours.
"In order for gravity to have had any affect in this case, the ground beneith the towers would have needed to increase in DENSITY (more gravitational force) to over come the structural design. All buildings are designed to withstand the Earths gravitational pull which is due to Earths mass/density."
In a static situation that is true. A building standing at rest will withstand the pull of gravity. Once the structure gave way in the fire zone, due to the effect of the fire, it was no longer at rest, where the collapse initiated. The ground beneath the towers did not have to increase in density at that point, as the building was no longer able to resist the pulll of gravity, where the structural failure occured. The upper 15 floors of One World Trade were not going to drop down one floor and stop.
"This is important! At no time should X not follow Newtons Law, which it does by NOT falling into Z! This cannot be stressed enough. Gravity works with mass/density just like water, it will ALWAYS follow the path of least resistance, up until the point where it is acted upon by an equal or greater force, in this case, the rest of the building (B)"
The rest of the building was not an equal or greater force, as the rest of the building was not a solid block. That cannot be stressed enough.
Flanges held the floors to the exterior column sections. That is what is called a weak link. There can be 90 strong links in a chain, but if there is a weak link, it will fail there, regardless how strong the other links are. Regardless how strong STRUCTURAL STEEL is, floors held in place by flanges are no match for tons of falling debris.
MoneyBots, you are exposed. We see your intent. Get lost.
"MoneyBots, you are exposed. We see your intent. Get lost."
Comedy.
yes, fire zone, due to fire....fire from fuggin thermite...
if the steel pillars werent cut, the buildings would not have fallen, period.
stop talking like you're a structural engineer or have a good grasp on physics - if you did, you'd be agreeing with us.
"yes, fire zone, due to fire....fire from fuggin thermite..."
Fire due to burning office combustibles.
"if the steel pillars werent cut, the buildings would not have fallen, period."
The pillars were not cut. You can see a pile of them laying in the debris in aerial photos.
"stop talking like you're a structural engineer or have a good grasp on physics - if you did, you'd be agreeing with us."
My grasp of physics is just fine.
Youre about as dumb as a potato. I can only conclude you are a JTRIG SuperTroll at this point, or clinically retarded.
"Youre about as dumb as a potato. I can only conclude you are a JTRIG SuperTroll at this point, or clinically retarded."
Comedy.
911 is just one chapter of a very very long story. A story that connects to the biggest con of all time, which you reference in your comment regarding the quite distinct difference between the so called old and new testament. A lie so big that most would never even consider the possibility.
CD
Very thoughtful and beautifully written summary of "what is wrong" with the picture since that fateful day.
Just wanted to ask you if you could have at least included a couple paragraphs on the men and women that put their reputations, careers and "yes" lives on the line to give us facts and "yes" the evidence, that the Commission Report would not and will not provide to the American public to this day?
People like Dr. Steven Jones, Niels Harret, Kevin Ryan, Attorney James Gourley, David Chandler, Jon Cole, and the founder of Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth Richard Gage among so many other that have contributed tirelessly to the efforts of explaining through forensic science what occurred that day in lower Manhattan while the NIST, FEMA among other government agencies on behalf of a panel of moneyed interest(s) committed fraud.
A debt of gratitude must go out to each and every one of them for their selfless efforts.
I only wish I could say the same for the peace and civil liberties organization(s) in this Country, many of whom could embrace both the logic in the science of what took place on September 11, 2001 and use it to their advantage in their own significant causes in the anti-war and civil liberties movement(s) which were severely altered in the wake of those attacks but have chosen deliberately to dismiss the significance of this information for reasons more than 8 years later that are still unclear.
To Zerohedge. As always thanks for doing the fine work and making the contributions that you do in seeking the truth and allowing us to communicate our views and opinions through you.
Questions for the Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth:
How did the top 12 floors of the south face of 7WTC, from aproximately column 20 east, get turned around so that the top of the wall faced west and the bottom of the wall faced east, lying on top of the pile?
How did the south face get severed at column 20 for at least the top 12 floors?
Please describe how controlled demolition would have contributed to this debris pattern.
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If they cannot or will not answer that (merely the first among many), then they have not studied how the building fell, period. In my book, any professional organization of architects and engineers who are telling me those buildings were detonated had damn well be able to tell me about every available piece of structural evidence, how it got where it ended up, what the break points indicate, and how controlled demolition caused it.
seriously, dude? with all of the things to point at....you trot that out?
look, the demolitions were initiated, but "controlled" is verbiage too far in that they were not necessarily meant to look like demolitions. you think entropy aint gonna have a say on that???
get real!
It's called hard physical evidence; something the architects and engineers avoid like the plague.
Larry Silverstein's back everybody.
What the fuck are you babbling on about now MORON?
The stupid picture means nothing as all the real EVIDENCE was carted away before any forensics.
You are saying there is nothing to learn by examining the photo/video evidence of collapse and the aftermanth? You actually swallow that bs? Try it in court, and see how far you get. The debris patterns, structural element configurations, and collapse video, all tell you how the building collapsed. If the AE group hasn't done that basic work, they have zero credibility.
I'm saying there is nothing you learned by examining the photo/video evidence of collapse and the aftermanth!
You actually swallow that offalCIAl bs?
Try it in court, and see how far you get.
Here is all you need to know in 5 minutes!
9/11: A Conspiracy TheoryCop out.
There is everything to learn by visually examining the evidence, no different than reconstructing an accident by examining tire marks, debris location, etc. You know damn well that's is fact. Why do you hide from it?
I'll help you out; because the debris patterns, structural element condition, and thorough examination of collapse video, as well as an accurate assessment of damage do NOT support controlled demolition. Is that what you are so afraid of? Afraid you may have been conned?
Special Class is over for you tonight.
The Short Bus will take you home to mommy's basement now.
Make sure to wear your hockey helmet at all times.
You don't want to lose any of those few remaining brain cells as you stumble down the steps.
Please be a good little retard and do your homework before we meet again.
http://www.corbettreport.com/911-a-conspiracy-theory/
I know 5 minutes is a long time for you... with all your A.D.D. ...and other such as problems ...and such as afflictions.
"I know 5 minutes is a long time for you... with all your A.D.D. ...and other such as problems ...and such as afflictions."
You still haven't answered his question.
He's afraid to even look, let alone answer. None of the "architects and engineers" will look or analyze the actual evidence.
moneybots ... answering the question in 48 seconds...
She is cute... but not so bright!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
"Just wanted to ask you if you could have at least included a couple paragraphs on the men and women that put their reputations, careers and "yes" lives on the line to give us facts and "yes" the evidence, that the Commission Report would not and will not provide to the American public to this day?"
I appreciate your comment and I did consider doing so. But the thrust of the article was not to get into the details and instead pull back for a bigger picture and perspective. After 13 years so many people are heartsick and emotionally spent pursuing this subject that I wanted to traverse some rarely traveled ground on the anniversary. I did not wish to polarize....at least not along the 'normal' lines.
So often, only when we become exhausted are we ready and willing to try something radically different and possibly take a look deeper within for the answers that until now have eluded us. I wished to give those individuals willing to try some encouragement by committing potential sacrilege and suggesting that the alternative movement might also have some issues that need dealing with. When we are righteously indignant lots of our own crap gets swept under the rug. Time to do some fall cleaning and freshen the perspective.
After all.......winter is coming.
CD
Thanks for your response.
While I would agree with you on being emotionally spent and "heartsick" which describes well our collective frustration to the inadequate response(s) we have received in Washington on the issues surrounding the "official narrative", the thing that I have found most disconcerting is the splintering or "atomization" among the peace, civil liberties and Truth movement(s). Most choose to go their separate ways in carrying their own agendas. What makes it even worse is that in many cases these divisions exist within each of the them to the extent that they can somehow not get along and come together especially when the understanding and resolution of 9/11 that you address here is so vital in being the catalyst towards real change in our economic, legal and political institutions.
I believe every opinion for the most part needs to be valued. But at some point in the interest of time which is critical and becoming more so given our condition, some agendas must coexist and find common ground and this topic more than any other clearly represents a time and place that should unite all of us in a meaningful way with the singular purpose to find answers the public has been denied for so long -each year and every year.
There is no reason in my mind why the comprehensive understanding of the events of 9/11 should be ignored or summarily left out of other social movement(s) that have ultimately been affected in the wake of those tragedies and could be so much more empowered by embracing it rather than rejecting it.
Lets hope we still have time and charismatic leaders out there that can inspire us to come together. I certainly don't see too manythese days but it doesn't mean they aren't out there.
Cheers
"I have found most disconcerting is the splintering or "atomization" among the peace, civil liberties and Truth movement(s)."
As I mention in this piece take an in-depth look at what happened to so many 'movements' of the 60's, 70's and 80's. In nearly every case they were deeply infiltrated and disrupted, which prevented the pursuit of a combined and coherent strategy against a common enemy. Divide and conquer bitches. It is as old as the hills and very effective.
The status quo rarely worries about revolution from the little people because they are so effectively neutralized. "They" worry about revolt from within their elite ranks or attacks from other nation/states. "We the People" are small potatoes.
Our own history proves this case. The American Revolution was not a rising up of the people as we are propagandized to believe. It was the wealthy of America who revolted from the King and then dragged the little people along for legitimacy.
Oops....was that my out-loud voice? :)
"The American Revolution was not a rising up of the people as we are propagandized to believe. It was the wealthy of America who revolted from the King and then dragged the little people along for legitimacy."...
It took money and the influential to get us into it, and it will be the "usual suspects" with the blood and money all over them that have lost too much of the latter unfortunately who will decide for the rest of us when we get out...
Certainly doesn't speak to justice, but we know plenty of criminals with good intentions that have their signature(s) on that piece of paper hanging in the archives in D.C. Just ask a local Native American!
Beautifully stated -Thx