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Summarizing The President's Speech
Update: Senator McCain blasts Jay Carney - "you don't have the facts" and President Obama "he doesn't understand the situation" in this post-speech CNN interview... well worth the price of admission...
In 15 minutes, President Obama laid out his 4-pronged strategy to defat and dismantle ISIS/ISIL/The Islamic State/'The Bad Guys'...
We suspect this tweet sums it perfectly...
POTUS Summary: We'll be bombing a sovereign nation (Syria) We'll be arming terrorist groups while fighting them. #Ref Economy is Great
— Stalingrad & Poorski (@Stalingrad_Poor) September 11, 2014
But here is The White House's official statement of strategy...
FACT SHEET: Strategy to Counter the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL)
The Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) poses a clear threat to the people of Iraq and Syria, and to the broader Middle East, as well as U.S. persons, allies and interests in the region. Left unchecked, ISIL could pose a growing threat beyond the region, including to the U.S. homeland.
The United States is meeting this threat with strength and resolve. In recent weeks, we have increased intelligence resources devoted to the threat and sent U.S. personnel to assess the situation on the ground. We have responded with immediate action to protect Americans in Iraq and to prevent large-scale humanitarian catastrophes, including by conducting over 150 successful airstrikes in Iraq. These strikes have kept our personnel and facilities in Baghdad and Erbil safe, killed ISIL fighters, destroyed ISIL equipment, protected Iraqi critical infrastructure, and broken ISIL sieges against an Iraqi city and civilians trapped on a mountain. Along with dozens of international partners, we have provided material support for Iraqi forces to support their fight against ISIL. Our strikes and resupply efforts have enabled Iraqi forces to take the fight to ISIL on the ground, reclaim key territory, and saved thousands of innocent lives.
Our goal is clear: to degrade and ultimately destroy ISIL through a comprehensive and sustained counterterrorism strategy so that it’s no longer a threat to Iraq, the region, the United States, and our partners. To achieve this goal, our strategy will be underpinned by a strong coalition of regional and international partners who are willing to commit resources and will to this long-term endeavor. Dozens of countries are already contributing in Iraq – from military to humanitarian support – and in coming days and weeks we will work to strengthen and expand that coalition.
In concert with our coalition partners, the United States will carry out a comprehensive strategy to defeat ISIL and deny them safe-haven. That strategy harnesses all elements of national power and features the following core elements:
Supporting Effective Governance in Iraq: We have made clear that additional U.S. action depended on Iraq forming an inclusive government, because only a united Iraq -- with a government in Baghdad that has support from all of Iraq’s communities -- can defeat ISIL. A new Iraqi government was formally sworn in on September 8 and we will support it in efforts to govern inclusively and to take significant, concrete steps to address the legitimate grievances and needs of all Iraqis.
Denying ISIL Safe-Haven: The Iraqi Government is taking the fight to ISIL, and will ultimately be the one to defeat it in Iraq. But our Iraqi and regional partners need our support and unique capabilities to blunt ISIL’s advance. The President announced that we will conduct a systematic campaign of airstrikes against these terrorists. Working with the Iraqi government, we will expand our efforts beyond protecting our own people and humanitarian missions so that we’re hitting ISIL targets as Iraqi forces go on offense. The President also made clear that we will hunt down terrorists who threaten our country, wherever they are. The President will not hesitate to take direct military action against ISIL terrorists in Syria and in Iraq. We will degrade ISIL’s leadership, logistical and operational capability, and deny it sanctuary and resources to plan, prepare and execute attacks. Simply put, ISIL will find no safe-haven.
Building Partner Capacity: We will build the capability and capacity of our partners in the region to sustain an effective long-term campaign against ISIL. The President announced that he will send an additional 475 U.S. service members to Iraq to support Iraqi and Kurdish forces with training, intelligence and equipment. In addition to providing weapons, ammunition and equipment, U.S. Special Operations Forces (SOF) will train and advise Iraqi forces, including Kurdish forces, improving their ability to plan, lead and conduct operations against ISIL. Further, the new Iraqi government has asked for help forming National Guard units that would be recruited locally and be responsible for protecting their own communities and securing areas freed from ISIL's control - a step that, along with long overdue political reforms, can drive a wedge between ISIL and Sunnis who have been alienated by their central government.
The President is also calling on Congress to provide additional authorities and resources to train and equip Syrian opposition fighters in the Continuing Resolution they are debating this work period, so they can defend themselves and their neighborhoods against ISIL incursions and ultimately push back on ISIL forces and the Assad regime. We will strengthen the opposition as the best counterweight to extremists like ISIL, while pursuing the political solution necessary to solve Syria’s crisis once and for all.
The growing and evolving nature of the ISIL threat underscores the importance of the Counterterrorism Partnerships Fund (CTPF). The CTPF request for $5 billion would allow us to train, build capacity, and facilitate support for partner countries on the front lines of countering shared terrorist threats, both in the region and beyond. The CTPF includes $500 million for a Department of Defense program to train and equip the Syrian opposition as described above and $1 billion to build resiliency in the states neighboring Syria to ensure they can continue to counter threats to their internal stability and to support communities that are contending with refugees.
Enhancing Intelligence Collection on ISIL: Continuing to gain more fidelity on ISIL’s capabilities, plans, and intentions is central to our strategy to degrade and ultimately destroy the group. Intelligence, Surveillance, and Reconnaissance flights and other important efforts will strengthen our ability to understand this threat, as well as to share vital information with our Iraqi and other regional partners to enable them to effectively counter ISIL.
Disrupting ISIL’s Finances: ISIL’s expansion over the past year has given it access to significant and diverse sources of funding. The U.N. Security Council resolution that passed unanimously in August demonstrated the broad international consensus to disrupt ISIL’s finances. We are already working aggressively with our partners on a coordinated approach that includes: reducing ISIL’s revenue from oil and assets it has plundered; limiting ISIL’s ability to extort local populations; stemming ISIL’s gains from kidnapping for ransom; and disrupting the flow of external donations to the group. Our domestic laws also provide additional tools in this effort, enabling us to sanction or prosecute those who fund ISIL’s activities.
Exposing ISIL’s True Nature: Clerics around the world have spoken up in recent weeks to highlight ISIL’s hypocrisy, condemning the group’s barbarity and criticizing its self- proclaimed “caliphate.” We will work with our partners throughout the Muslim world to highlight ISIL’s hypocrisy and counter its false claim to be acting in the name of religion.
Disrupting the Flow of Foreign Fighters: Foreign terrorist fighters are ISIL’s lifeblood, and a global security threat—with citizens of nearly 80 countries filling its ranks. Over 100 foreign fighters from the United States have traveled or attempted to travel to the conflict. On September 24, the United States will convene an historic Summit-level meeting of the UN Security Council, focused on this issue.
Protecting the Homeland: We will continue to use the criminal justice system as a critical tool in our counterterrorism toolbox. Federal criminal laws provide a sound basis to prosecute those who provide material support to ISIL or who conspire with ISIL to plot attacks at home or abroad. With respect to aviation security, we will work with air carriers to implement responsible threat-based security and screening requirements, and provide additional screening to individuals suspected of affiliation with ISIL. Finally, we will counter violent extremism here at home, including tailored domestic programs to prevent violent extremism and radicalization in order to intervene with at-risk individuals before they become radicalized toward violence and decide to travel abroad to Syria and Iraq to join ISIL.
Humanitarian Support: We and our partners will continue to provide humanitarian assistance to the displaced and vulnerable in Iraq and Syria. We will also continue to work with host governments to mitigate the humanitarian and economic effects of the conflict in neighboring countries, recognizing that the refugee crisis calls on our common humanity and presents a significant challenge to regional stability. As ISIL seeks to destroy the diversity of the territories it terrorizes, we will continue to work to help prevent mass atrocities, particularly against vulnerable religious and ethnic minorities.
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And NBC's Richard Engel destroys the President's speech line by line...
The US can drone and weaken isis, but a decade has shown, the US is not qualified to mediate sunni shiite divide.
— Richard Engel (@RichardEngel) September 11, 2014
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But apart from that - grest plan!!!
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Nothing changes - on this day in 1957 - NYTimes reports US plans to arm Jordan afainst Syria
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STATEMENT BY SECRETARY OF DEFENSE CHUCK HAGEL ON PRESIDENT OBAMA'S ISIL SPEECH
President Obama laid out a strong, comprehensive strategy to degrade and ultimately destroy ISIL, and the United States military is prepared to carry out its responsibilities in this counter-terrorism campaign. The men and women of the U.S. Armed Forces are ready to carry out the orders of our Commander-in-Chief, to work with our partners across government, and to work with our friends and allies around the world to accomplish this mission. As the President made clear, American military power cannot alone eradicate the threats posed by ISIL to the United States, our allies, and our friends and partners in the region. Iraq's continued political progress toward a more inclusive government will be critical, as will our coalition's use of all instruments of power -- military, law enforcement, economic, diplomatic, intelligence, and humanitarian assistance -- in coordination with countries in the region.
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Oh and America's economy is awesome...
Our technology companies and universities are unmatched. Our manufacturing and auto industries are thriving. Energy independence is closer than it’s been in decades. For all the work that remains, our businesses are in the longest uninterrupted stretch of job creation in our history. Despite all the divisions and discord within our democracy, I see the grit and determination and common goodness of the American people every single day, and that makes me more confident than ever about our country’s future.
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Ok so Qatar gas pipeline through Syria completed by April?
— zerohedge (@zerohedge) September 11, 2014
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Bullshit. We could have done that from the start. The flip side of the argument was that the current borders were drawn to force disparate groups together and create tension...from way back in the British Empire.
You can't have it both ways.
What I think we are seeing is a complete meltdown of foreign policy and any rational thinking. The lunatics run the asylum and there is no coherent plan, not even a good conspiracy can put all this together.
Lame POS puppet...
Richard Engel ? wtf? zio media POS...
Is the acronym set now? I lose focus when I don't know what the acronym is.
Oh - and war doesn't need to be declared anymore, or even called war, right?
Is the acronym set now?
Spastica...you are so much smarter than Ozzie...and Ward too!
These slicky-boy words on the tube slide faster than my Red Ball Jets!
I think it is the (stealth) Zirconium rubber....shhhhhhh!....
ASSAD
YOUR
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It all depends on whether Putin can re-supply Assad faster than the US drones 'miss' and hit Syrian targets. You might also think that ISIL will have to move stuff out of Syria to replace losses they will suffer in Iraq. And if course, Putin can always join the US in its fight against ISIL by bombing ISIL targets in Syria????
I think Putin would have something to say about that. He played the diplomat the last run at Syria, I don't think he will sit back and watch Syria get dismembered by the United States of Israel without a counter punch in lil o's mini marbles.
This all happened almost a year ago to the day. Putin parked 6 Russian war ships between the US Navy and Syria. The US blinked and General Dempsey went to White House on a Saturday morning and said give it up.
From what I remember - there was a Chinese missile cruiser there too and there were subs from probably 5 countries.
Russia and China need to make sure they have Syria's back.
http://www.infowars.com/report-china-sends-warships-to-coast-of-syria/
There was defintely a Chinese heavy assault ship "training" close by. What a monster too.. twice the size of the Russian assault ships!
https://medium.com/war-is-boring/five-ships-of-the-chinese-navy-you-really-ought-to-know-about-22070c2264b7
Maybe Assad should just pack his bags now. It's coming, unless Russia takes direct action to defend Syria. Without Russia's direct involvement Syria will suffer the same fate as other of Russia's friends, (Iraq, Libya).
ISIS is CIA/Massod, ISIS will move back while the US bombs Syria's defenses and then ISIS will move forward. Once Syria falls then the ISIS fighters will be rebranded once again and will be "freedom fighters".
What is Putin's plan?
"Without Russia's direct involvement Syria will suffer the same fate as other of Russia's friends, (Iraq, Libya)."
and I'm here to tell you that the russians will and Syria nor Assad will
and I am pretty sure the United States Government under direct supervision from their owners were supporting both of these countries up until the day the were not. If you remember, Iraq was our proxy against Iran and they received some nice weapons of mass destruction form us during that trench war.
As for Libya? if you don't support someone you should not go out of your way to shake their hand at the United Nations like Obama did. Go see how many U.S. oil companies were pumping oil out of these countries and for that matter go look up what infrastructure the Marines were to secure during the first stage of the ground wars, it wasn't the baby milk factories or the mythical baby hospitals where infants were being thrown our of their incubators.
I'm here to tell you that Obama is walking our troops into a area where Russia is not going to let things baby step into a take over, he will have our air frames trailing smoke over Syria the first time we wander over to bomb Assads military assets.
The reason they have not just waltzed into Syria is because they know Putin is just as serious as we are about off sides and he will throw a flag. This ain't Iraq.
I have not read any recent pronouncements from Putin. He has his hands pretty full with Ukraine and maybe even Estonia.
It does seem to me to be a fortuitous time for Assad to take advantage of the situation, with or without Putin.
Idiotic. The part about the guys on the ground, but not on the ground, was best.
Levitating troops. A new branch of the airforce.
Did he blame the whole mess on Putin? I refuse to watch the charlatan in chief
Whew!
I didn't see my name, "Cheap Bastard" mentioned even once in that word cloud. My guess is this Nobel Piece Prize is going to get very very spensive for merikans.
" Despite all the divisions and discord within our democracy, I see the grit and determination and common goodness of the American people every single day, and that makes me more confident than ever about our country’s future.
" Where? On the golf course?
Yeah, I missed all that "common goodness." Maybe in another 50 years I'll run across it.
Swoosh..
That speech had it all. I teared up and signed up my kids to fight this great battle (College is too expensive anyhow). Economy is great so we can afford to spend billions fighting the enemy we created by spending billions.
Don't tell my kids, they might get socialist dreams of education spending instead of Holy Warfare. We need to defend the Faterland abroad after all.
Off he goes into the night.. The Forer
HOMELAND. We call it the Homeland now, or Heimatland if you're nostalgic.
It's called nowadays because that's what it is. It used to be a federally governed sovereign country made up from over 50 individual, self governing states. It was know as The United States of America. However, that was then. It's 2014 and now this same chunk of land nestling between Mexico and Canada is now a Banker controlled, military powered, oligarch administered, corporate entity. Renamed by its unimaginitve rulers as 'Homeland'. Sounds very 'Fatherland' doesn't it...?
They considered Fatherland but thought it would be too obvious, although personally, based on the other shit they've gotten away with, I think they could have pulled it off.
Homeland? Fatherland?
Some Home, some Father. This "Father" must really be an anti-model, as is this "Home" and what it has become.
More reminiscent of a Bad Father in Detroit or Chicago, than "Father Knows Best" or "Bill Cosby". Or any real life father I know of in my neighborhood.
"Our technology companies and universities are unmatched."
Uh, yeah. Ever hear of a little nation called South Korea? Seoul is the PhD capital of the world. The fastest growing tech companies are all South Korean. Our universities have consistently dumbed down the curriculum so that the drooling jocks who should be in trade school can pass Philosophy and Statistics. Our technology and universities are jokes.
"Our manufacturing and auto industries are thriving."
What manufacturing?! Ever year 30,000 more manufacturing jobs head to third world nations. The auto industry was artificially propped up with my fucking tax dollars and the EV auto industry was subsidized with my fucking tax dollars. On what alternate universe could this be described as "thriving"?!
"Energy independence is closer than it’s been in decades."
Crawling an inch down a marathon route is not closer, fuckwit. We were energy independent last century when we could dig up all the coal we needed. Now only green energy gets the Obomber stamp of approval, which must be heavily subsidized with my fucking tax dollars, and it alternately chops up or fries in midair everything with wings that gets near it. Stop destroying the coal industry that supplies most of the energy for the country, you fucking halfwit. Let us drill for oil in the US instead of protecting a goddamn turtle or fish that means fuck-all. Stop using my fucking tax dollars to play God with favored industries, and most of all, get the hell out of our way.
"For all the work that remains, our businesses are in the longest uninterrupted stretch of job creation in our history."
These jobs are, of course, minimum wage part time jobs. When you have to work six jobs to cover what one job used to cover, that ain't progress.
"Despite all the divisions and discord within our democracy, I see the grit and determination and common goodness of the American people every single day, and that makes me more confident than ever about our country’s future."
The divisions are artificial, and the discord comes from Congress throwing a bitch fit when you end-run them illegally. Most Americans are not commonly good; they are, however, commonly distracted and stupid and lazy. I have no confidence in our country's future.
Obammy, I cordially invite you to go fuck yourself with a splintered 2 x 4 with rusty nails sticking out at intervals.
On the plus side, what other country in the world has a creationism museum (WITH animatronic dinosaurs). PLUS, we have programs that allow our professional atheletes to graduate from college, while still focusing on their athletic careers. Yeah, we're still the best.
Everyone got trophies at my daughters soccer turney.
My son got an 8th place trophy, and its sitting right up there on the fireplace mantel.
It's called Devolution or Reverse Darwinism, bitchez.
Talmudists believe in the opposite for themselves, of course.
We need less of "meekness and turning of the other cheek", and more of Ragnar Lothbrok's payback: the Blood Eagle. That would send a message to our enemies -- both here and in the ME. RAGNAR!
It's all right there in that 1957 NYT front page:
Right next to the column about fighting syria is a larger piece brow-beating the white man for not petting the north american pavement ape.
You are saying a Kinesiology degree is bad? At Alabama if they can spell it they are awarded a degree in it.
We will give weapons to moderates to help fight isis, but not the moderates we gave weapons to before that were isis, we will equip the iraqi army because isis took the equipment we equiped them with before we equiped the moderates who became isis and took the iraqi armies equipment.
Clear?
Hell yeah! Merika! 'Merika! 'Merika! 'Merika! Number 1 ! Number 1 ! Sign me up bitchez! Im going to go fight me some moderates! But not those ones, the other ones. I was against the moderates before I was for the moderates! Its all so clear to me now!
#MERIKA#1 FREEDUMB 4EVER!
Yes, we will do the same thing as we've done before and hope for a different outcome ... because that is the definition of insanity.
Notice the "spin": We are going to destroy THEIR weapons?
You mean OUR weapons - that we supplied to them when they were still the FSA, and the weapons we left for the New & Improved Iraqi Army.
ANYONE in the US Mil who now fights over there is either a "Certified Moron" or a willful Traitor to the US Constitution. Sorry guys, but there is no more "middle ground" or acceptable excuses left.
If they want an "Army", make them bring back the Draft, and see how many politicians will get turned out of office for supporting such a thing.
Who voted for this A-hole twice. He was always all liberal academia BS. Now the real world is staring him in the face!!!!
Years of war.
No strategy.
No conditions for victory.
No objectives.
Empty suit president.
TROLL FUCK below!!!!
Theosebes Goodfellow...classic "fill the page" diatribe...
Usually lifted from a book with quotes....
Page 47, Rand Corporation Handbook for Trolls...
This is what I sent my congressman this afternnon, before the president's speech:
Dr. Ruiz,
I am going to try to be as clear as possible on the following point. Later today, (Sept. 9th, 2014) the President, Barack Obama, is going on national media to ask Congress for funds to "fight" ISIS in Syria. I am particularly opposed to funding either the use of American Taxpayer paid-for ordnance and military resources, and most certainly against being involved in providing, subsidizing or purveying weapons of any sort for Muslims, regardless of ilk, location or flavor of cult fanaticism. I am virulently opposed to this idea for the following reasons.
1.) It's not our fight. If Muslims want to kill Muslims, (for which they seem to have a certain affinity, only exceeded by their fanatical love for killing Jews, Christians and Americans), then we should not stand in their way.
2.) Any non-Muslim idiot who buys into the whole "good Muslim - bad Muslim" notion simply has failed to do their due diligence and is nothing more than an uninformed rube.
Here is the simple, unadulterated truth about the cult of Mohammad. Ab? al-Q?sim Mu?ammad ibn ?Abd All?h ibn ?Abd al-Mu??alib ibn H?shim was an orphaned, dispossessed great-grandson of a rock idol owner born roughly in the year 570 A.D. He was by all accounts, an extortionist, incestuous, mass-murdering, pedophile pirate, if the Qur'an, Sunnah and ahaditha are to be believed. That would be all fine and dandy except for one thing: this Mohammad, "Ab? al-Q?sim Mu?ammad ibn ?Abd All?h ibn ?Abd al-Mu??alib ibn H?shim", is considered the epitome of how Muslim men should behave. And now Barack Hussein Obama is talking about arming men who are followers of this man. Do you see a problem here?
3.) The president has not given the American people even an inkling on how this FIVE BILLION DOLLARS that he's asking for is to be spent, yet just in the last month or so a reporter, dressed as Osama Bin Laden WALKED across our southern border unchallenged. Just last week, the same reporter, dressed as a jihadi warrior, carried a duffel bag with decoy bags of ricin across our northern border and into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, in broad daylight, again unchallenged!
These breaches of our borders occurred while the President apparently has enough funds to fly "undocumented foreign nationals" around the country without any oversight, documentation or consideration for laws prohibiting the aid to those in this country illegally.
So let's walk through the President's game plan, (presuming he has one now, because just a week ago he stated to the world he had no plan for dealing with ISIS, though he's known about them for over a year). He's going to a) bomb them from the air, (with ordinance paid for by taxpayers, not Iraq or Syria, the main beneficiaries); b) supply arms to those "fighting ISIS", though exactly whom this entails is not quite clear; (By the way, wasn't that what Benghazi was all about? Supplying "rebels" fighting Assad in Syria, (who turned out to be ISIS), with weapons acquired from Mo Quadaffi's stockpiles in Libya and shipping them into Syria via and with the help of Erdogan's Muslim Turkey? How well did that end up?)
These bombed ISIS Muslims, now really, really angry at America are going to plot their revenge, (because, you know, it's the Muslim way, not that "turning the other cheek" Christian/western culture nonsense). And how will they go about doing that, apart from beheading more western infidels for the benefit of world social media? Let's see, which is the easiest way to actually get operatives into the USA, (short of letting "former ISIS fighters" who have western passports, (Somali Minnesotans come to mind), just fly back and begin a) riling up the local Muslim populaces, (who already buy into the "until all is for Allah" dogma)? Or b), "Hmmm, let's see, does America have a porous border anywhere?"
Look Doc, if you haven't read up on what Islam is or what Mohammad stands for you are endangering your life, the life of your loved ones and the lives of your constituents, (and that includes me). Islam is the cult of mass-murderer. It's situational theology, with the god inside Mohammad's head giving him permission to do whatever he pleased. back in 600 A.D. it was supposedly God talking to Mohammad alone inside his head, (which none of his contemporaries ever heard). Today, modern medicine calls it schizophrenia. And tonight the president is going to talk about arming the followers of one side of the cult of a schizophrenic.
Christ compels us to hate the sin and yet love the sinner. I have no hate for Muslims. I do though, hate Islam. It's fascism dressed up as a religion. The "War on Terror" was a lie, pushed off on unsuspecting Americans by a family friend of the Bin Ladens who happened to reside at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue in Washington, D.C. at the time. We are no longer so naive.
If you have not educated yourself about who Mohammad was and what these "most revered texts" of Islam say, you cannot in good faith vote to appropriate taxpayer funds for their support.
I would encourage you to waste no time in educating yourself, your loved ones and all those Americans you know to read these texts and also what western scholars have discovered about their true meaning. I would strongly urge you to find and read a copy of Craig Winn's "Prophet of Doom: Islam's Terrorist Dogma in Muhammad's Own Words", out of print by still available on Amazon.
Also, "Religion of Peace", by Dr. Robert Spencer. And: for the abridged version, google "3 Things about Islam". It's on YouTube.
Then be sure to see Dr. Spencer's website, Jihad Watch.
You can find it here:
http://youtu.be/Ib9rofXQl6w
and here:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/islam-101
Respectfully,
[real name used]
Theosebes Goodfellow
Banning, California
[in Dr. Ruiz's congressional district]
Feel free to cut and paste this into an email of your own or use your congress person's email access from their congressional website to send this message to your elected village idiot. Maybe, if enough people speak their opposition, these folks will get the message. What Obama proposes is a lose-lose scenario.
You can be better president than Barry
The steaming corn shit I took an hour ago would be a better president than Obammy. God, man, reach for a better compliment than that!
Not me, kowalli. But Ben Carson can. Let's face it, we, (not that I voted for him), we, collectively, elected the wrong black dude. Twice.
You not elected him, no one counted voices... they just put him in place...
Later today, (Sept. 9th, 2014)
Great letter, but, c'mon man! Pull yourself together, today is the 10th of September, or as I like to put it Patriots Day Eve!
Thanks for saying so, trulz, but it isn't a great letter unless it ends up in your congressperson's inbox. And although it has turned into being Patriot's Day, I liken it more to just another Pearl Harbor Day, (the one that went down in the annals of infamy). Personally, I think we've had enough of those and I fear we shall see more of them before we finally, here in the west, wrap our brains around the evil that Islam is.
Evil Islam? Nah....I just think a lot of brown folks are really pissed that we've wiped out their entire families, spread Depleted Uranium all over thier entire environment, stole thier natural resources, stole their hard earned gold/silver/platinum and continuously rape the fucking shit out of them with rusty hammers. Jokes on us motherfuckers! I would find it refreshing to see some of them take off thier masks however, I would really like to see their shiney blue eyes and their supple white skin. My guess is that its prolly 15-25 Western Backed private military contractors for every 5 "Islamic Turrurrists". Conservative guesstimate at best here. But anyway, Im not sending that letter to my congressman or woman, I dont want to recieve a recruitment letter for AIPAC in my mail.
PS, it really is a great letter, I can tell you really mean it, you have much conviction, I appreciate that. Whithout feverish zealotry, the world would be far less entertaining to watch.
Speaking of an uninformed rube, if you don't find Islam evil, either a) you haven't read the Qur'an or b) have no notion of what evil or fascism looks like. That said, you must also have overlooked my statement about the "friends of the Bin Ladens". That crew is pretty fascistic too.
That said, I'm glad you can appreciate someone with conviction, though by the sound of you you lack it. Don't worry, you just haven't had enough ass in the game for it to matter to you yet. Fear not, that time is quickly approaching. Enjoy your detachment whilst you can. In an odd way, I envy you.
No muslim ever did anything to me. I can't say the same about the Tribe.
translated as: Do what the rabbis say 'cause Hitler andMohamed! Oooga boooga booga!
Go crawl into an oven...
I'um not uh smuart mahn, but I knoo whut ISUS eis.
"Let me be clear....this will not interfere with my September vacations!"
The only thing interfering with the September vacations is those greedy capitalist golf course owners who wouldn't let Obammy close the course so he could play. Hee hee hee.
Almost makes me want to open a premier golf club just so I can tell him to fuck off without repercussions. (Except for the inevitable IRS audit and EPA orders to close the water hazards because CLIMATE CHANGE POLLUTION AND EXTINCTION.)
The strategy for fighting ISIS appears to be "fight fire with fire".
The problem with that strategy is that its architects are lying psychopathic arsonists.
Our drones and planes should have no trouble in Syria - unless they are escorted by Ukrainian fighter jets.
The first bombs should be dropped on K Street.
call your congress person to start the draft. that should end hostilities by the morning.
What happens when a Russian air defense system shoots down one of our jets? Do we really think Russia and Syria are going to ignore US jets in Syrian air space?
Just looking at the number of PILOTS lost in Vietnam - about 5,000.
MOAR Kool-Aid.......
obambam is antisemitic. no word on the greater israel project and how all this fits in to the glorious regional empire of israel. how dare he forget the grand prize. there are a lot of arabs to kill to get this greater israel started. the sooner the better.
That and clear the Russian Navy out of Syria.
This all looks like the beginning of "Alas Babylon" Maybe depopulation of the earth is upon us.
Latakia for the win...
Colt (NUKES) made all men (countries equal) I think the first to the red button may have a 1 minute advantage.
No, but we can foment unrest, drone, supply weaponry, and propagandize. Yes, we can!
we'll be bombing some folks...
we'll be arming some folks...
Nice - when you put it in that folksy, homespun way, I'm totally down with it.
But we'll need to arm them before we bomb them lest we drone unarmed civilians....
he shoulda' armed himself if he was gonna put old Ned out front...
we'll be making some bankster folks rich...
And we're gonna disappoint and anger some folks in Qatar, whose pipeline plans are turning into a pipe dream.
And, for the same reason, we're gonna make some folks in Iran and Russia very pleased, as it strengthens their pipeline businesses.
At some point, the Qataris should just make a deal with Iran, and run the dumb pipeline under the Gulf and have it join the Iran-Russia system, to supply the EU.
The sooner it gets laid, the sooner they get paid. Alas that would also mean that the 'folks' at the Fed would be "laid" (screwed): "No Gas - Dollars for you!"
"Our technology companies and universities are unmatched." Bullshit I went to college for some spucing up 3 years ago. Our universities are full of closed minded morons who avoided the real world by teaching us about it!
"Our manufacturing and auto industries are thriving." I work in manufacturing. Its trashed outside of the MIC. It will take decades to build back up.
"Energy independence is closer than it’s been in decades." No the fuck it is not. You shut down coal plants all the time and replace them with nothing.
"For all the work that remains, our businesses are in the longest uninterrupted stretch of job creation in our history." Job creation? Part time jobs at McDonalds serving nutrition free wood pulp burgers?
"Despite all the divisions and discord within our democracy", Ah finally taking credit huh?
"I see the grit and determination and common goodness of the American people every single day, and that makes me more confident than ever about our country’s future." WTF? I see corruption everywhere from the guy who makes 200k riding Obamacare to the punks down the street partying on our tax dime. Violent cops who arent yet militarized enough to stop packs of kids from pillaging and ransacking all over the place.
We need to stop worrying about Syria and start worrying about Serial....Serial lies that is.
Im getting the feeling this is a a huge joke perpetrated against 'merikans, and when they say "we" "us" and "our" he is referring to a different country, China,, the country that probably signs his check. Its just too stupid to not be some sick joke, I cant understand.
I missed ancient aliens for this?
Know why that guy has the hairdo?
To hide the antennaes.
He held a speech? Surely, you mean he was reading to the masses.
Well, if you want to get technical, the TelePrompTer and puppeteer had a speech. Obammy just did his task like a trained seal.
As Jack spoke - Ripper: let's party ...
Staff ... and sent the United States to assess the situation on the ground.
- They lost their heads.
Our ... staff and facilities in Baghdad and Erbil safe.
- Oil is safe.
Fighters killed ... ISIL, ISIL destroyed equipment.
- Kill those who we train we bombed our equipment.
Civilians ... trapped in a mountain.
- Split those guys who live there to millennia of his goats.
Along with dozens of ... international partners.
- Saudi Arabia, Qatar, who else?
We ... provide material support to Iraqi forces.
- To bomb later.
Saved ... thousands of innocent lives.
- Were born Muslims.
hehe.
All I could think of while watching POTUS speak was whether a medium sized windmill placed near the mics would generate enough power to run the TOTUS?
If you're going to put a windmill near him, first dress him in a bald eagle costume. Windmills and turbines are especially efficient at chopping those birds to bits.
dammit Jim, I'm a surgeon, not a veterinarian...
Don't think he is powerful enough to blow out a candle. If it wasn't for all the spit, he might be able to get a hot air balloon off the ground.
So the fake beheading of journalists means there will be no journalists in Syria and we will never really know what is happening.
check
"Bombing Syria, a soverign nation is an act of war. It needs congressional approval.
Nope last time he tried to bomb Syria Pelosi said he didn't need congressional approval, 2003 approval was still valid.
He asked that they support his decision, meaning chime in not vote.
A vote on war powers resolution for dems is a pretty pickle with November being so close and all.
pretty pickle got stars in it's eyes...
If it is valid then ....
Bombing Germany and Japan can?
Cuba!
Invade Mexico!
Maybe Afghanistan can again?
War of the Boxers in China, help the White Army - Russia - against the Bolsheviks.
Can you still bombing Vietnam and Korea?
The Island of Grenada to kill American students no communist there?
There are many examples in history, look for a place where there are no remnants of war made ??by the USA in the last 200 years.
Al Qaeda begat ISIL which begat Homer which begat Bevis which begat Butthead which begat Hillary. The future is now! ISIL will not be destroyed. ISIL will morph. The ultimate bogeyman of terrorism will just get stronger and stronger.
The Prez's address to the nation could not have been more contrived. Extreme frivolous nonsense right up to the moment he spoke and then even more extreme frivolous nonsense immediately after he spoke. He didn't want anybody to remember a word he said. This was a dog and pony show if I've ever seen one.
Hey Messy,
Fuck you, our shows are believable, and entertaining!
Hugs,
Dog&Pony
Gotcha Canuck, we'll just blame Canada. ;-)
This statement requires this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOR38552MJA
almost lost my breakfast over just a GLANCE at Carney and McBain's mugs...
On the eve of 9-11. All patriots know what to do. Time to bomb some brown fucks. Hoorah!
Happy patriots day - to celebrate i'm going to clean my guns.
I bought a couple new ones I didn't need.....
It would be a hoot if the Russians got the green light from Assad and blew the shit out of ISIS, Al Nusra, and the FSA before Obumbler and his grand cooalition of metrosexual NATO Euroweenies managed to get their LGBT-infested air forces in the air over Syria
+1000 "metrosexual NATO Euroweenies" made me spit out a good quantity of scotch, and scotch is an endangered species for the next 9 days.
What a god damn traitor
This means moar fat juicy defense contracts paid with OPM ... yummy, yummy, yummy for them.
The best way to cure a cultural divide is to unify them with a common enemy.
The USA is right on track, make as many enemies as possible, and eventually everyone will hate you so much that they will no longer fight with eachother and only with you.
^^
Just in case anyone is confused: ISIS in Iraq are the bad guys who we fight against but ISIS in Syria are the good guys who we fund, train and equip.
You're welcome.
What's confusing me is what the official acronym is. Are we going to drone/supply ISIS or ISIL?
We'll do both to both!
Picture: Obama exchanges the halo for horns. Change you CAN believe in. How appropriate.
http://static01.nyt.com/images/2014/09/10/multimedia/obama-strategy-isis...
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/11/world/middleeast/obama-speech-isis.htm...
Nice visual imagery
It's like they're performing a modern version of an ancient play
Lucifer was a fallen angel and King of Babylon
UPDATE: NY Times changed the picture to a different angle of Obama. Guess they didn't like the horns (truth hurts!). The link to the original jpg still works as of now.
Yeah Obama is an idiot. We should let some real brilliant minds like Chaney and Bremer and Wolfoshitz and Rumsfeld figure out to handle ISIS. Those guys are soooooo smart they could never create a big ass fucking hot stinking mess in the Middle East.
Uh -huh.
Big difference in Media coverage between Bush and Obama and their respective Iraq adventures. Bush had a plan, the plan worked, until it didn't ... aided by Big Media. Obama never had a plan, but Big Media kept telling everyone he that he had a great one.
See the difference when you take time to think?
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LOVE it. Obama will be spending a few more trillion dollars that USA doesn't have, thus accelerating USA's demise. Putin is smiling right now.
How many States does it take (34 ?) to have a conference to re-instate the Constitution and limit the power of the Executive Office as set out in the Constitution.
....and to gut the Bill of Rights. Bye-bye 1st and 2nd. A constitutional convention is a damn dangerous road to be tread without a pre-ordained certainty of outcome.
...and where the country is headed now... certainty of outcome. A convention may be a better gamble than an executive run wild with power.
Do you believe that a majority would vote to gut the Bill Of Rights? The governing of the country must be brought back to the original intention of the Union. The ever expanding power of government with all the regulations drowning the country will lead to a complete collapse.
And did you ever believe that a majority of Americans would fall for the charade and vote Obama into office not once, but twice? (OK, technically electors cast their votes for a candidate via the electoral college - the people didn't vote directly). Though I share your sentiments and certainly agree that the country must be brought back in line with the original interpretation of the Constitution, I'm reluctant to endorse a Constitutional Convention. Politics makes for strange bedfellows and anything could happen. It's possible that the language of the BORs could be altered just enough by removing a seemingly innocuous comma here and there for instance, to completely change the meaning of certain amendments. Since the majority of America gets its news and analysis from the corporately controlled MSM, anything could happen. Unfortunately, this is no longer the age of Enlightenment, and men of good character are far to few in DC to be of consequence.
If the original signatory that ratified the constitution by Convention were as negative as you seem to be, there may never have been a United States of America. So we just let the country implode - I have to stand up shout for a change in direction.
This country is far past the event horizon of implosion. The actual event is only a matter of time, time that the Fed is desparately trying to buy. Furthermore, we no longer live in an age of enlightenment when such grand experiments were possible, but one of special interests and burgeoning fascism controlled by the self-interests and greed of TPTB. Washington, Hamilton, and Jefferson couldn't even get elected in today's America. So just WHO do you think is going to control the process of establishing a new constitution and to what ends?
Whats wrong with the Constitution as it exists, but with and amendment limiting the power of the executive branch to the original duty of upholding the laws of the country and defending the country. Very few executive orders should be permitted. I think there are still enough honest representatives of the people in the House to ensure compliance. One other change that I think is necessary would be term limits on all politicians. I agree that there is corruption and self-interests but when the population gets beat down enough they may finally demand in certain terms that government be reduced in size and dictatorial control.
A sufficient number of states have already called for a Constitutional convention. The Constitution requires Congress to set the date and location. Congress is ignoring the Constitution.
IOW, it doesn't matter how many states call for a convention. 50 would not be enough.
Excellent Strategy. Reminds me of Vietnam where we fought the enemy everywhere but his home base, Hanoi, and that turned out pretty well. Same thing here. ISIS base is the Kingdom and we don't touch the Kingdom, of course unless it is the King meeting an American Presidente', then it's KISS ASS TIME and our presidente' bows, scrapes, and kisses the king on his arse. Hey, sell my soul too if you're selling out America... no one wants to be left behind.
Did you know in 2004 just before the FBI had to submit its report for the 911 commission report they stated that no cell phone calls were made from any planes. Because no cell phone could make a call unless the altitude was very, very low.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjImLL4NnwA
One of the things the media forgot to air in America, was aired in Canada though.
This has all been fake, every 911 they try a new false flag, video, video, video.
Now video, video, video of fake beheading with high tech editing done by the CIA.
What adds weight to the 9/11 false flag theory are the lies about cellphone calls from passengers reported by the FBI very soon after the attack. This suggests a large measure of pre-planning of heart-wrenching propaganda.
Only when it was proven that these calls were not made because they could not have been made, did the FBI change their official position. But they did so very discreetly and didn't reveal it to the public. It also raises the serious question of why wives/husbands of passengers played a part in the FBI lies. How much of the plot were they aware of??
And similar mysteries exist over the bomb attacks in London on 7/7. A private security firm run by a retired senior Met Police officer had been engaged by "someone" in government to take part in a "simulated terror attack" on 7/7 at three stations on the London Underground. His firm's role was to take charge of mass evacuation etc to prevent public panic.
He stated in a tele call to a London radio station on 7/7 that the three stations where his people were told to be on that day were the same three stations where the real attacks happened.
As far as I know, to this day he has declined to name the person in government who engaged his firm and planned all the detailed arrangements.
Gee Barry didn't apologize for the ones who are gonna be collateral damage?
Wierd. I was under the impression that Obamba didn't like moderates having weapons. At least in the United States.
We are protected by Eric Holder in the United States. If you are blown away he will fly in on his Boeing 757 and seek justice for you. Count on it.
So Syria gets bombed anyway when Congress just said no?
New Pearl Harbor false flag in 3.. 2.. 1..
Maybe next time the Nobel Prize committee will wait until the nominee is senile or dead before they give someone a Nobel Peace Prize.
No, whores never get their virginity back.
I could be corrected but the job of the Executive Office is to enforce the laws of the USA and defend the country. All I would ask if I could is that these tasks are carried out justly and intelligently. The US need not be the policeman of the world but must annihilate any that would attack this country - no mercy, no middle ground. Let the world know that there is now a RED line and it will be enforced.
I would rather be beheaded by ISIS than be beheaded by my own government with those guillotines the US Gov has purchased.
I have many graves from the revolutionary war. My ancestors came to this land in 1630 to escape oppression. I am related
to Franklin and Madison.
So bring it bitches!
"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies . . . If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] . . . will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered . . . The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson -- The Debate Over The Recharter Of The Bank Bill, (1809)
Haven't heard you use the "Douchebag" melody in quite awhile William.
I think this is an opportune moment if ever there was one!
Not just for Jamie and Lloyd!!!
Just asking. If I live in California and assert that I am fearful of being captured and beheaded by an immigrant ISIS child who entered the U.S. without documentation, will I be able to get a concealed carry permit?
My guns are not illegal, they are just undocumented.
No.
Your local police force has tanks, attack dogs, battle dress uniforms and gunships. Your cellphone is bugged. Your web sessions are monitored and recorded. Airline passengers are fondled and x-rayed. What the heck do you need guns for...don't you feel safe already???
Funny the Russian Oligarch banker sailing around San Fran bay this week.
They say the name of the ship is simply "A" for his name, but when you
look at it below in all caps it says HAMILTON.
he is laughing at us.
Nothing new here except the bombing of Syrian territory which isn't a surprise. A host of terrible options in a region the US is stuck with as long as we are tied to the Saudis at the hip.
When Obama/CIA/Mossad funded, weaponized,
and trained ISIS, the role Obama saw for ISIS
was to hold ground then occupied
by “moderate rebels"-" the Syrian opposition"'
Now the role Obama sees for the moderate opposition
is to hold ground now occupied by ISIS
"Insanity is repeating the same mistakes
and expecting different results" ??????
Wish we had some allies who would enforce our southern border.
I think Obama was ahead of the game
last week when he didn't have a strategy
What happened to the government that dug holes so they could fill them up? Seems like such a virtuous waste of money in comparison.....
hope Yellen was listening, monetize monetize monetize. that should get wall street through this dangerous fall gap. no one dare accuse him of attacking the group he supplied with arms, (or the mexican cartels, or giving aid to the Assad regime which he wants to attack, how many military strategies can this guy dance on the end of a peace prize) other than the fringe media, and there is something wrong with that. its one more reason to hate the GOP, and hate OBAMA. time for a constitutional convention. my best outcome is Obama living in a foreign country and Boehner crying to the jury.
I don't see "really bomb Assad," "Lebensraum," "Greater Israel" or "pipeline" in that word cloud.
I just admire how the CIA orchestrated the fake beheading in the run up to this nonsense by their guy in the Oval Office.
An American, not US subject.
The important point is people are going to die violently. The wraiths will be celebrating tonight, maybe a festive black mass tomorrow. Death and debt for all on slave ship Earth.
Here's my question, has this president ever fired a gun? Has he ever held one? Just asking.