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UPDATE: *HOUSE HAS VOTES FOR U.S. AID TO SYRIAN REBELS; VOTE CONTINUING

 

 


 

 

Those sneaky politicians... The House has just begun voting on whether to amend the US Spending Bill to enable funding for Obama's grand strategy of training "moderate Syrian rebels.

  • *SYRIAN REBEL AID IS PROPOSED AS AMENDMENT TO U.S. SPENDING BILL
  • *HOUSE BEGINS VOTE ON U.S. AID TO SYRIAN REBELS SOUGHT BY OBAMA

However, what few have also noticed is that the bill also includes an extension for funding the Export-Import bank.

As The NY Times reports,

The House will vote on Wednesday on whether to grant President Obama the authority to train and equip Syrian rebels to battle the Islamic State, but Republicans will insist on a detailed accounting of how the program fits into a broader strategy to defeat the militants, Republican leaders said Tuesday.

 

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The bipartisan effort to aid Mr. Obama’s campaign against the group, also known as ISIS, is colliding with a separate fight among Republicans over the Export-Import Bank, which guarantees loans to overseas customers of American exporters but which conservatives denounce as crony capitalism. Some conservative Republicans in the House are eager to oppose any measure that extends the agency’s life but reluctant to vote against the ISIS measure. They had hoped the two issues would be broken into separate bills.

 

But Republican leaders, eager to get their candidates back on the campaign trail, rebuffed their conservative colleagues. They argued that Senate Democratic leaders would have rolled the authorization for the Syrian rebels into the funding and Export-Import Bank bill anyway, then sent the package back to the House for yet another vote.

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Wed, 09/17/2014 - 16:54 | 5227668 nope-1004
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Aid for them "boots on the ground".  Technically, we aren't putting soldiers in there, but morally they are fighting for the Fed and USD reserve currency.

 

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 16:56 | 5227673 hedgeless_horseman
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...the bill also includes an extension for funding the Export-Import bank.

Fuck these guys!

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 16:59 | 5227691 Pinto Currency
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Can't vote NO now when they've already built, trained and financed them:

https://medium.com/@NafeezAhmed/how-the-west-created-the-islamic-state-dbfa6f83bc1f

 

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:05 | 5227701 Stackers
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Maybe this would be a good time to bring back up the whole Benghazi Libyan-->Turkey-->Syrian Rebel gun running deal gone wrong incident ?

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:28 | 5227796 Pinto Currency
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Trying to approve it after the fact for Hillary and the CIA.

Next vote is to approve the stand-down of help to Amb. Stevens.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:38 | 5227831 hobopants
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You know, If I was in Congress I would vote to fund every retarded thing that came to the floor. One trillion dollars for planned parenthood for dolphins? ok, why not?

The sooner the circus falls apart the better, the longer it goes on the worse it will be when it does end.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:47 | 5227865 espirit
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I still can't discern whether we're giving money & arms to 'freedom fighters' or 'terrorists'.

So if they're fighting with us today they're freedom fighters, and fighting against us tomorrow they're terrorist?

Only in Bizzaro World. 

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:55 | 5227898 Bad Attitude
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What are moderate Islamists? They behead people with a sharp knife?

Esprit: In Dear Leader's mind, 'Freedom fighters' are the Islamists that want to destroy the West, and 'terrorists' are Tea Party members.

Forward (over the cliff)!

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:16 | 5227959 TeamDepends
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Repeat from yesterday: A moderate muslim is a muslim who wants a radical muslim to kill you.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:43 | 5228070 The Alarmist
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Moderate Syrian Rebel has the same sort of oxymoronic ring to that you have in terms like military intelligence and phrases like, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help you."

Thu, 09/18/2014 - 02:52 | 5229126 Harbanger
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I thank you Lord, by your word everything comes to be.

Amen.

Say this short prayer and believe it in your heart, say it every night, your father will move mountains for you.  People will think you are lucky.

 

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:58 | 5227906 LeisureSmith
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Well, those syrian air defence sites wont take them selves out on their own so..... state sponsored terrorism, or aid to moderate rebels if you will.

 

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:36 | 5228038 JR
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“A state of war only serves as an excuse for domestic tyranny.” – Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

Thu, 09/18/2014 - 09:37 | 5229671 SyriaL Stowlker
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I don't know man , you tell me .

- Here's the Moderate FSA in action , they Moderately beheading : https://twitter.com/syrian_7/status/512245830816763904

- Lookee here , CoFouder of Al-Qaida with BinLaden pointing fingers on who's behind ISIS . http://youtu.be/NEuJ5v3AbJg

- Meet Jamal Maarouf, Syria's "Most Moderate Rebel" Supported by the #US Govt : http://youtu.be/kM5v40_BypQ

And here he is with ISIS FLAG CLearly above his head : https://twitter.com/tweetduude/status/511994629097390080

- All 3 Western beheaded journalists were in custody of Moderate FSA : https://twitter.com/no2isis/status/511059710011645952

- One of Hussein Obombas Moderate FSA Freedom fighters after Looting a local Church :
https://twitter.com/thelemniscat/status/510454720725778433

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Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:50 | 5227872 NoDebt
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I agree, Hobo.  They want to Cloward-Piven us into submission, I'd shove so much Cloward-Piven down their fucking throats they'd choke to death on it.  Pretty sure I could bring the entire government to it's knees in a year.

After that we'd be having an entirely different kind of conversation than those bastards are used to.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 19:08 | 5228154 Savyindallas
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How about a trillion dollars  to educate old men on the benefits of using Viagra and Cialis to enhance your sex life so you can maintain a 4 hour erection? Even though if you watch TV (especially sporting events) you've probably seen 10,000 erectile dysfunction commercials, some old men are too senile, sick and in the final stages of dementia to realize that they too can be having sex with young nubile hotties. 

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:30 | 5227802 Stoploss
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FUCK YOU CONGRESS YOU ROTTEN FUCKS!!!

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:10 | 5227928 Chupacabra-322
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It's not a CONgress. Hasn't been for quite sometime. It is however a Crimimal Psycopathic Treasonist Borad of Directors.

Isn't it Amazing the open Criminality being carried out now out in the open & in our faces? There're aren't trees & lamp posts high enough to hang thse Pure Evil Vermin from.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 20:41 | 5228430 Kirk2NCC1701
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Well, if they approved funding for Moderate American Rebels (MAR), we'll call it even.

MAR will only use a humane, 1-bullet kill-shot.  No worse than a Double-Tap:  Bang, bang, you're dead. Might even use a Magic Bullet, to shoot more than one person, or line up a bunch of people and use the 50 cal.  This is for two reasons:  (1) to show that we're not trigger-happy crazies, and (2) they don't deserve their own bullet.  Corpses will be shipped off to family. /sarc

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:36 | 5228042 Chupacabra-322
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@ hedgeless horsemen,

Regarding the Ex-Im Bank, Cliff Kincaid wrote in October 2011 in his article entitled Obama’s Master George Soros: Supporting America’s Enemies at Home and Abroad that…

“ A possible Soros role in the Obama Administration’s curious dealings with Brazil continues to generate controversy.

“At a time when the Obama administration is resisting the issuing of more offshore permits for U.S. domestic oil exploration, it is doing just the opposite with Brazil.

“The administration officially launched an “energy partnership” with Brazil in August. “We want to work with you. We want to help with technology and support to develop these oil reserves safely, and when you’re ready to start selling, we want to be one of your best customers,” Obama had told a group of Brazilian business leaders in May 2011.

“The U.S. Export-Import Bank had proposed $2 billion in loans to the Brazilian oil company Petrobras to ensure the purchase of U.S. goods as the company explores for oil. The Ex-Im Bank had approved the loans on April 14, 2009, during a time when Soros was buying and selling millions of shares in the company.

“It appears that the Open Government Partnership is making use of U.S. taxpayer dollars to create the public impression that Obama is open and accountable to the American people. Soros, who is funding the effort, stands to gain from this perception.”

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 22:43 | 5228775 Dame Ednas Possum
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Syrian Separatists = ISIS / ISIL terrorists.

Keepin' the dream alive with US taxpayer funds.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:23 | 5227780 whirling tword ...
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So, they're supposed to take those weapons and attack their allies that are fighting with them against assad?

They don't even try to hide their corruption anymore, do they?

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:05 | 5227920 Shad_ow
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Our government has such a hard-on for Assad they are willing to use savages to get him.  Disgusting and not one will be held accountable when it blows up into a full escalation.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:11 | 5227944 Chupacabra-322
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Please stop referring to it as a Government. It's a Criminal UNITED STATES, CORPORATION. Headed by a Criminal CEO & Criminal Board of Directors.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:34 | 5227826 NOTW777
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rename it - ISIS AID & REARMING BILL

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:40 | 5227842 crazzziecanuck
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The US goernment is now funding a fighting force that declared a truce with ISIS last week.

This is just more of the whole anti-Assad bent the White House and their ilk have been on for years.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:08 | 5227930 libertus
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House votes to fund Al-Quenda and islamic radicals. Now anyone who voted for this can be arrested for funding terrorists. Excellent!

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:14 | 5227948 Chupacabra-322
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Arrest them & prosecute them under the NDAA. Hold the Criminal Frauds indefinitely inThe own FEMA Camps.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 16:55 | 5227671 Stoploss
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VOTE NO YOU BASTARDS!!!

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 16:55 | 5227672 TeamDepends
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How 'bout we shore up the porous southern border first, huh boys? (Crickets)

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 16:55 | 5227677 AZLagun
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I guess it would be too much to seperate these two issues and vote on them seperatly.  What a joke these people are.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 16:56 | 5227678 alexcojones
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Just drop MIC-Cain into Syria by parachute.

Let the old War-Whore direct his buddies, the Beheaders, and maybe they just go Solof on the old freak.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 16:56 | 5227682 Berspankme
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Anybody who votes for any incumbent deserves to be shot. I don't care who it is. Send a message, keep constantly churning these useless fuckers. Any new asshole can't be worse than your current asshole

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:05 | 5227709 Not Goldman Sachs
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No so sure...rank order the asshole problem:

Fissure

Fistula

Hemmoroid

In w/ the new, out w/ the old.

New shit, different day.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:06 | 5227715 LawsofPhysics
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Look folks, those fat pensions at Lockheed won't pay themselves...

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:10 | 5227729 therevolutionwas
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What a corrupt bunch of low life immoral sleaze these people are.  No wonder it's called the District of Criminals. 

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:14 | 5227744 Aknownymouse
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No boots on the ground. But there will be plenty of boots up our asses soon.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:14 | 5227745 Dadburnitpa
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Just who the fuck is it that they plan to train and equip?  Jesus H, what a clusterfuck.  These idiots don't even know what they are voting for.  They just mindlessly push the button that their handler tells them to.  I don't think we have EVER been so fucked as we are now.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:47 | 5228084 Ginsengbull
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Elections will be soon enough, then bohica.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:17 | 5227756 Tracerfan
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US House voting to arm terrorists seeking to overthrow another nation's government, in violation of international law.

Fu*k them and their evil, corrupt asses to Hell.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:17 | 5227758 N0TME
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This is all about attacking Assad's forces .... PERIOD!

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:15 | 5227958 Chupacabra-322
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Excuse me, President Putin, you have President Assad on line one.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:19 | 5227764 thamnosma
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Just peruse comment boards on other sites to get an idea how many remain utterly blind and brainwashed, supporting more war.  "We gotta kill 'em before they get us" meme is all over the place.  EVen after 13 years of perpetual war and its consequences.   When the herd moves in a direction nobody votes "no", especially weeks before election time as the scum opponent would jump all over it.  Sadly the majority of the population is still believes in all this shit.  Posters here at ZH remain, amazingly, in a deep minority.

 

Nevertheless, let's give credit to the 156 who didn't go along with it.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:58 | 5228120 Savyindallas
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A lot of the 156 is for show. Only a handful are not owned by the Zionist/banksters - if their masters needed their vote, at least 145 of the 156 would comply. Our congress is owned by Banksters  -every much as criminal as Al capone who owned politicians in Chicago.

 

We (USA) is  an occupied territory  -waiting to be liberated (mainly from the ignorance, corruption and stupidity of our own minds which allows the degenerate elites total control) - of that there can be no doubt.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 19:11 | 5228177 thamnosma
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Perhaps, but it's a far higher no vote than I expected.  Sure, some vote no because they know the measure will pass and it will satisfy their local voters.  Still, I believe there is more real opposition to this move than expected. 

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 21:12 | 5228524 Implied Violins
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Yup, you don't get to that level of government without being given your role by the Council on Foreign Relations. There will always be those in the CFR (like senators Warren and Sanders) whose given role is to voice the people's concerns to make it at least *look* like our elected officials are actually doing what we supposedly voted them in to do - but: 1. they will always be in the minority; 2. no legislation vital to the oligarchs will ever be denied; 3. and there will never be any exceptions to point #2.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:19 | 5227769 bid the soldier...
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So we're back to the old question: WAS ISIS CREATED IN ALLEPO BY THE CIA, SAUDI AND OTHER SURROGATES OF THE US.

Created to give the US an unassailable excuse to send planes over Syrian airspace, with the phony mission of bombing the allies they just created, and having their 'boots on the ground' in Iraq invade Syria under the false pretense of "hot pursuit' of their allies, ISIS.

As if Putin doesn't already have a lot on his plate.

But if the US, because it doesn't recognize the Assad regime, bombs Syria and sends troops in,

THEN DOESN'T PUTIN HAVE THE RIGHT TO BOMB UKRAINE AND SEND TROOPS INTO DONBAS, BECAUSE RUSSIA DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THE ILLEGAL POROSHENKO GOVERNMENT IN KIEV.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:29 | 5227800 In.Sip.ient
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Russia has 8000 nukes

US has 7000 nukes

 

Either one can do whatever the (!) they like!

So long as they stay out of each others face.

 

 

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:19 | 5227973 bid the soldier...
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You and I can take our souped up '56 Mercs to a dark road and race them a half a mile to the edge of a precipice"

The one who opens the door of his speeding car first and jumps is the loser.

But both hot rods will go off the cliff.  

If our hot rods are our nukes, it really doesn't matter who jumps first. 

The challenge to the race and the acceptance of that challenge is the whole shooting match.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:44 | 5228075 Ginsengbull
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It DOES matter.

 

We can't end it all with nukes.

 

There will be much more gruesome ways to die than mere radiation sickness.

 

The bill discussed above provides funding for the ex-im bank.

 

That means other countries will get loans to buy American made weapons and torture devices.

 

There's money to be made.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 20:37 | 5228427 bid the soldier...
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The only way any of this makes sense is if you believe that we're (US & EU) running down on crude oil.  And that fracking shale oil is an alchemist's dream.

As I rely on others for my idea's, I only see two endings for 'Homo Sapien" and both were fictions written for popular culture:

'1984'

'Dr Strangelove'

Can you think of anything else I may of heard of?

 

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 22:12 | 5228698 Ginsengbull
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Hitch hikers guide to the galaxy.

 

Some miraculous moments, but the ending is a drag.

Thu, 09/18/2014 - 02:12 | 5229109 bid the soldier...
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the book or the movie?

Thu, 09/18/2014 - 14:55 | 5230962 Ginsengbull
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Book of course.

 

Movie was only a couple chapters of the book.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:24 | 5227994 MilwaukeeMark
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Got to keep our Saudi masters happy and help them get those natural gas pipes up through Syria and into Turkey. Otherwise they may start selling oil in Yuan or gold and then the Fed's ponzi scheme is really up.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:19 | 5227771 FreedomGuy
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What the hell is a "moderate" Islamist-rebel? Is that someone who uses a sharp knife instead of a dull knife when he beheads you? Do they stay moderate over time? Will they actually like the USA and western culture because we helped them?

Remind me, isn't this how we got ISIS started? They were nice moderates fighting the evil secularist, Assad?

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:30 | 5227808 whirling tword ...
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LOL... yeah... a "moderate" is an Islamist who is sawing off heads...  but not yet claiming to want to saw our heads off yet.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 19:14 | 5228185 thamnosma
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Moderate rebels are the ones the West thinks it controls.  Started in Libya with this crap.  Which American Regimes are moderate?

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:22 | 5227781 are we there yet
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The Beuro of moderate Obama standards, says that to be a moderate serian rebel,  the rebel malita must promise that no rebel will torture or behead civilians more than 40 hours a week whithout rebel union overtime. 

You know it is messed up when Assad is looking more moderate than the rebels and ISIL.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:02 | 5227914 JR
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Politically Incorrect Zinger:

"It's a real shame that President Barack Obama recently had to give a speech behind bullet-proof glass. Just because he's black doesn't mean he's going to shoot anybody."

Oh wait...

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:27 | 5227793 Goldilocks
Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:34 | 5227811 cn13
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And of course these war-mongering Congressional C*&nts will tell us this vote was the will of the American people.

Just like the $800 billion banker bailout in 2009 in which 200-1 callers were against the bailout.

But the bought and paid for Congressman voted for it anyway.

Why anyone would believe anything a politician says is beyond my realm of reasoning.

They are nothing but pathetic liars from the president incapable of telling the truth on down to the lowest orderly.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:32 | 5227816 Smiley
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War=easier than getting your economy's shit together.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:38 | 5227836 viahj
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global tyranny, the US does it best.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:38 | 5227838 mrvco
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Taking the ISIL bait hook, line and sinker.  Bait which we gave them to begin with... so I guess we are getting what we wanted in the first place.  MOR WAR!

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:40 | 5227846 Sweet Chicken
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Roll the fucking guillotines already!

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:21 | 5227976 Chupacabra-322
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Fuck the Guillotines. I want these War Criminal Treasonists hung upside down, have thier throats slit from ear to ear, have them drown in their own blood while being simultaneously set on fire for all the World's Nations to see & made an example of.

Fuck, I will personally go MedEvil on their asses & Slice / Light the match myself! Fuck this Shit already!!!

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:39 | 5228057 Ginsengbull
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Why make it such a quick painless end for them?

 

I would rather see a football stadium excavated about 50 feet deep, and put the politicians in the hole, and every week we throw them a live cow and trough of water.

 

They can work it out among themselves.

Thu, 09/18/2014 - 14:19 | 5230840 Sweet Chicken
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"Why make it such a quick painless end for them?"

 

Because there are so many of them? Then again we could use them as slave labor to build 'Muh Roadz'?! 

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:43 | 5227854 Quinvarius
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There is no such thing as a moderate Syrian rebel.  Congress are idiots.  All the Syrian rebels signed a pact with ISIL just this week.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:49 | 5227860 JR
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You can’t have a war without printing money these days. That’s what it means when the government guarantees the loans. And that’s why Janet is “still dovish.”

“Those sneaky politicians” are fighting an enemy they can’t define. And one needs to point out the reason for all this;  Syria, Libya, Gaza, Iran -- all are "enemies" of Israel. And when you get a pro-Israel government in the U.S., well, you’ve got to fight the enemies of Israel. Yet, of all the Middle Eastern countries the U.S. politicians are cobbling together to meet this threat, they’ve apparently never asked Israel.

Trying to get a coalition together of people who will put their boots on the ground, and we’ll give them the money, Obama says he’s all these people lined up but the Arabs are cool to the idea. But o f all the Middle Eastern people, there still seems to be one he left out, our main friend, the nuclear power of the ME -- Israel.

I guess Israel’s just too busy trying to figure out how to defend herself against all those homemade rockets landing in her open fields.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:47 | 5227862 joego1
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Hey, Just send some of those arms to the hood right here in America.

In 2004, federal investigators discovered a Muslim Brotherhood memorandum during a search of a northern Virginia home. The memorandum, written by Mohamed Akram for the Muslim Brotherhood’s Shura Council, described a “civilization jihad” aimed at North America. It stated: “The Ikhwan must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and "sabotaging" its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and God's religion is made victorious over all other religions.” This explanatory memorandum also included a list of 29 Muslim Brotherhood connected organizations in the U.S. The memorandum was entered into evidence at the Holy Land Foundation terrorism financing trial in 2007-2008.
Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:54 | 5227897 JR
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Who needs the Muslim Brotherhood to “destroy Western civilization from within” when we’ve got Israel?

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:50 | 5227876 Nadine of Tyrol
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And people still pay taxes?  Nothing like spending some of your precious, limited time on this planet funding the machinations of this corrupt cabal pretending to represent us.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:31 | 5228015 Chupacabra-322
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It's The Global Criminal Oligarch Cabal Bankster Intelligence Crime Syndicate. Long winded but exactly describes the Pure Evil Psycppathic network.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:54 | 5227879 joego1
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There is obviously considerable control over the weapons pouring into the middle east right now. Like Majid said the other day in the bazzar- hey you wanna buy a Obama assault rifle right here on the street? Yeah, man got your moderate rebel hummer drivers license and we got a deal- right?

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 17:58 | 5227908 bid the soldier...
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THIS JUST IN

Iraq's new PM strongly rejects potential foreign ground forces within Iraq In first interview with foreign media, Haider al-Abadi stressed that he sees no need to send foreign troops to help fight Islamic State.

 

By  Sep. 17, 2014 | 6:56 PM
This is the guy we fought like hell to replace al Maliki.  Hmm.  More bullshit?

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:29 | 5228012 rejected
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Why would you want to send our soldiers back to that hell hole? We are supplying arms to those that would be fighting our soldiers. What kind of insane policy is that?

Thu, 09/18/2014 - 02:14 | 5229110 bid the soldier...
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This is the guy we fought like hell to replace al Maliki. 

We meaning Uncle 'Bom, not meaning me.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:00 | 5227910 SmittyinLA
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idiot whores financing Israeli piracy 

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:01 | 5227911 q99x2
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Just think if they would provide this kind of support to end Goldman Sachs how much peace there would be.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:19 | 5227964 JR
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Perhaps there is no way to end this web of evil but to destroy it and let the phoenix “rise from the ashes." We still have America's blueprint from which to make a miraculous comeback.  

Regarding the Ex-Im Bank, Cliff Kincaid wrote in October 2011 in his article entitled Obama’s Master George Soros: Supporting America’s Enemies at Home and Abroad that… 

“ A possible Soros role in the Obama Administration’s curious dealings with Brazil continues to generate controversy.

“At a time when the Obama administration is resisting the issuing of more offshore permits for U.S. domestic oil exploration, it is doing just the opposite with Brazil.

“The administration officially launched an “energy partnership” with Brazil in August. “We want to work with you. We want to help with technology and support to develop these oil reserves safely, and when you’re ready to start selling, we want to be one of your best customers,” Obama had told a group of Brazilian business leaders in May 2011.

“The U.S. Export-Import Bank had proposed $2 billion in loans to the Brazilian oil company Petrobras to ensure the purchase of U.S. goods as the company explores for oil. The Ex-Im Bank had approved the loans on April 14, 2009, during a time when Soros was buying and selling millions of shares in the company.

“It appears that the Open Government Partnership is making use of U.S. taxpayer dollars to create the public impression that Obama is open and accountable to the American people. Soros, who is funding the effort, stands to gain from this perception.”

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:05 | 5227922 SmittyinLA
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We not just voting to arm terrorists jehadis, we're also waging an undisclosed illegal war agaisnt Russia, whom will be breaking out the nukes shortly.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:09 | 5227932 Super Hans
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So, we are now providing arms logistics for ISIS?

 

once gain, the font page size is off.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:11 | 5227943 ChanceIs
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All I want to know is if the ISIS oil fields and refineries are still producing.  Taking away their oil revenues - and supplies for the US M1-A1 tanks - will be 100X more effective than training Syrian rebels, whom we will have to fight to destroy six months from now.

What does Putin say about all of this?  Didn't the entire world vote "no" against Obama's war on Assad last year.  Please tell me that nobody believes that this is anything other than a war on Assad.  OK.  OK.  It is also a show for the American people that Obama has something faintly resembling a pair going into the November elections.  Oh.  And to demonstrate the Pubs have some similar capability to boot.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:15 | 5227957 jtg
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Damned idiot Americans.

Thu, 09/18/2014 - 05:15 | 5229245 SilvertonguedAngel
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Damned complicit Americans...

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:22 | 5227979 rejected
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And every one of these slobs occupying con-gress will be re-elected. God, this is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sick.

They're taking our money, buying arms and handing it over to a bunch of murderers. If we did that we would be arrested as  gun runners.

If there is a hell, every one of those SOB's involved deserve going there.

 

 

 

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:26 | 5228001 ChanceIs
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The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in
extending our commercial relations to have as little political
connection as possible... Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of
any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of
European ambition, rivalships, interest, humor, or caprice?... It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of
the foreign world."

G. Washington circa 1796 Farewell Address?

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 23:30 | 5228894 22winmag
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Still brings a tear to my eye.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:35 | 5228033 Fuku Ben
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Someone please introduce a bill to draft congress and drone drop their asses unarmed onto the front lines facing off against ISIS

Thu, 09/18/2014 - 20:57 | 5228067 are we there yet
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'House votes to arm moderate serian rebels'... how do those words string together?.... like US votes to supply propholactics to moderate gang rapers.....or humane death camps....or enhanced interrogation....or measured bombing......or balanced distruction......or preemptive reaction.......misguided misspeak....  When the english language sounds goofy, it is the concepts that are goofy.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:46 | 5228078 Son of Captain Nemo
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"House Votes To Fund Arms To Moderate (For Now) Syrian Rebels (And Ex-Im Bank)"...

Excellent!  More treason for everyone!...

Certainly wish the American people were mindful enough to know what it is and just when it is being committed in their names considering the illegal "misappropriation of funds" continues?...

Maybe this guy can come out of retirement to help clean it up!

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 18:56 | 5228119 joego1
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Add a little more snake oil and eye of newt till it's just right for my spell...

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 19:01 | 5228134 goldenbuddha454
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Oh nice!  We're now supplying the same bunch that sold Foley to ISIL for 50K.  Right on target!  And the politicians in Washington wonder why their numbers are so low.

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 19:15 | 5228188 talisman
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al Qaeda are now "moderate" Islamic jihadist
fanatics, compared to ISIS;
so let's support these "moderate" al Qaeda
jihadists with money, weapons,training,
intelligence, etc. that they can re-sell to ISIS

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 19:47 | 5228237 earleflorida
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This is what 'ISIS[L]' is` all about...?

In the Iran-Iraq war of 1980-88, the Kurds were basically wiped out by the Iraqis, but in the mid 1970's the Iranian's also betrayed the Kurds (basically sunni-islam) under the Pahlavi dynasty (      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Reza_Pahlavi   ) and King'Khan the`Reza abruptly withdrew his support once they got the (  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Algiers_Agreement   ) three islands disputed by the UAE  in the gulf and the "Thalweg's lion share of the 'Arvand `Rud' (the main deep channel to the gulf) via transitioning the prized river, 'Shatt al-Arab'   ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shatt_al_Arab     ) which btw was also responsible for Saddam starting the war in 1980 after he had become the USSA puppeteer of Iraq in 1979. Coincident? The Pahlavi dynasty disintegrated in 1979 under the Iranian Revolution and Reza went into exile. The USSA couldn't have an independent Iran running on a Nationalistic Socialist-Democracy! Could they? 

Remember (     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Anfal_campaign    ) Chemical Ali? Well between 1986-89? he and Mr. Saddam used genocidal chemicals supplied by Britain and to some extent (never proven) the USSA via Aberbaijan[? Israel?].  Here are a few links worth looking at if interested:   http://www.bitsofnews.com/content/views/4233/42

http://www.aina.org/news/20080101142405.htm  

Both pertaining to Iran and Iraq, and Kurds. Please realize that in the early 60's the Kurdish population combined with the Sunni-arab Iraqi's equalled the Shi'ite population in Iraq?!? But at the time there was little oil exploration in the north because of its backwardness.  

Now, to my main thesis regarding the Kurds and the half dozen minorities living in the west-northern and southwest (arab badu's) deserts, and along the porous Syrian border that follows the 200 mile Euphrates inside Syrian territory. Lest we forget Turkey where the Tigris and Euphrates rise!

ISIS{L*} is a front orchestrated by Sheikh Bandar{Bush} for Saudi Arabia... and in co-operation with the Gulf Coast (GCC) Council, Period! Their single objective is to rid the Kurds from the Northern borders of Turkey,Syria, Iraq, and Iran once and for all! Leaving a clear-cut threshold of the ME to align with the USSA to box in Russia and break the coexistence pact they currently are making with China as they both together can crush the USSA.

Therefore we have the classic divide and conquer with the Saudi's paying for their future with Mohammad'S ME blood breathren?

Please realize that via Syria, the Rebels of ISIS[L] is,`is capable of converging on Lebanon who btw defeated Israel not so long ago with Hezbollah now bogged down in Syria. Note: Turkey conveniently using 40 something hostages as a nutralizer is a red-herring? Erdogan hates the Kurd's and would do anything to see them all Hitlerized!!!

jmo

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 19:37 | 5228251 Ginsengbull
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How about we give them high tech weaponry, rigged to detonate when GPS indicates that it's crossing the border, so they can't hand it over to ISIS in Iraq?

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 20:20 | 5228370 bid the soldier...
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like shopping carts in parking lots

great idea

Thu, 09/18/2014 - 19:09 | 5228304 One World Mafia
Wed, 09/17/2014 - 21:11 | 5228522 Fix It Again Timmy
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1.) Wow, print money out of thin air!

2.) Boogey-man vanquished!

3.) Problem solved!

Why didn't I think of that.....

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 21:25 | 5228556 New American Re...
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STOP VOTING FOR INSANITY!  VOTE LIBERTARIAN!!

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 21:48 | 5228628 your_moms_basement
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NeoCons want war, NeoLibs want war, for fuck sake it really is true, you do have to be a phycopath to be a politician!  Hey kids don't forget to vote, it'll really make a difference, every vote counts ya know!.  Pfffffffffffffffffft!  

Thu, 09/18/2014 - 05:11 | 5229241 SilvertonguedAngel
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Tell the Crimeans and Scots their votes don't count...HA

Thu, 09/18/2014 - 10:37 | 5229896 your_moms_basement
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Comparing what's going on in those other country's politics and elections to the US is apples and oranges.  Straw man much?...HA!

Wed, 09/17/2014 - 23:32 | 5228884 22winmag
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I bet the majority of fake ass Tea Party members voted to fund these raghead fake ass "freedom fighters" with taxpayer dollars.

Thu, 09/18/2014 - 05:10 | 5229236 SilvertonguedAngel
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Of course you are wrong.

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The TEA Party voted a resounding no to BOTH the amendment AND the CR...

http://blogs.rollcall.com/218/continuing-resolution-isis-vote-breakdown/...

Thu, 09/18/2014 - 16:27 | 5231320 MeelionDollerBogus
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hooray! More guns for ISIS! Oh wait, we have to stop the terrorists from ISIS! Oh wait we... LOL

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