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Scotland Says "No" - The Results So Far: NO 54.3% - 45.7% YES (26/32 In: NO 21 - 5 YES)
Breaking News: Scotland Votes No. More on the live blog: http://t.co/GlTbXbfE53 #indyreflive #indyref pic.twitter.com/SnxJRyVQyL
— The Daily Record (@Daily_Record) September 19, 2014
- *SCOTLAND VOTES AGAINST INDEPENDENCE IN REFERENDUM, BBC PROJECTS
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: BBC PROJECTS NO 55%, YES 45% IN REFERENDUM
The reaction in Cable...
The initial results are in:
NO's...
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: CLACKMANNANSHIRE 16,350 YES, 19,036 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: CLACKMANNANSHIRE YES 46.2%, NO 53.8%
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: ORKNEY 4,883 YES, 10,004 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: ORKNEY 32.8% YES, 67.2% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: SHETLAND 5,669 YES, 9,951 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: SHETLAND 36% YES, 64% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: EILEAN SIAR 9,195 YES, 10,544 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: EILEAN SIAR 47% YES, 53% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: INVERCLYDE 27,243 YES, 27,329 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: INVERCLYDE 49.9% YES, 50.1% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: RENFREWSHIRE 55,466 YES, 62,067 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: RENFREWSHIRE 47.2% YES, 52.8% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: MIDLOTHIAN 26,370 YES, 33,972 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: MIDLOTHIAN 44% YES, 56% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: E. LOTHIAN 27,467 YES, 44,283 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: E. LOTHIAN 38.3% YES, 61.7% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: STIRLING 25,010 YES, 37,153 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: STIRLING 40.2% YES, 59.8% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: FALKIRK 50,489 YES, 58,030 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: FALKIRK 46.5% YES, 53.5% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: ANGUS VOTES 35,044 YES, 45,192 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: ANGUS 43.7% YES, 56.3% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES:DUMFRIES & GALLOWAY 36,614 YES, 70,039 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES:DUMFRIES & GALLOWAY 34% YES, 66% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES:ABERDEEN 59,390 YES, 84,220 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES:ABERDEEN 41% YES, 59% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: E. RENFREWSHIRE 24,287 YES, 41,690 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: E. RENFREWSHIRE 37% YES, 63% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: E. DUNBARTONSHIRE 30,624 YES; 48,214 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: E. DUNBARTONSHIRE 39% YES, 61% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: S. LANARKSHIRE VOTES 100,990 YES, 121,800 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: S. LANARKSHIRE VOTES 45% YES, 55% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: PERTH & KINROSS VOTES 41,475 YES, 62,714 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: PERTH & KINROSS VOTES 40% YES, 60% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: W. LOTHIAN 53,342 YES, 65,682 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: W. LOTHIAN 45% YES, 55% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: SCOTTISH BORDERS VOTES 27,906 YES, 55,553 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: SCOTTISH BORDERS VOTES 33% YES, 67% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: N. AYRSHIRE 47,072 YES, 49,016 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: N. AYRSHIRE 49% YES, 51% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: S. AYRSHIRE 34,402 YES, 47,247 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: S. AYRSHIRE 42% YES, 58% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: E. AYRSHIRE 39,762 YES, 44,442 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: E. AYRSHIRE 47% YES, 53% NO
YES's...
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: DUNDEE 53,620 YES, 39, 880 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: DUNDEE 57% YES, 43% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: W. DUNBARTONSHIRE 33,720 YES, 28, 776 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: W. DUNBARTONSHIRE 54% YES, 46% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: N. LANARKSHIRE 115,783 YES, 110,922 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: N. LANARKSHIRE 51% YES, 49% NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: GLASGOW 194,779 YES, 169,347 NO
- *SCOTLAND VOTES: GLASGOW 53% YES, 47% NO
A picture paints a thousand words...
Alex Salmond has been conspicuous by his absence tonight, but has now been spotted at Aberdeen Airport. #indyreflive pic.twitter.com/Bz5q5eNiIB
— The Daily Record (@Daily_Record) September 19, 2014
Some of the most recent updates:
Better Together campaign director Blair McDougall says there has been an "extraordinary" #indyref turnout with nearly 100% in some places
— Sky News Newsdesk (@SkyNewsBreak) September 18, 2014
First news coming in of the modern Battle of Falkirk - YES need it BUT NO campaign say they going to win
— Nick Robinson (@bbcnickrobinson) September 18, 2014
Yes sources say data suggest Glasgow could be 54% yes, 46% no. Mood quite flat in the Yes camp though. #indyref #Scotland
— James Cook (@BBCJamesCook) September 18, 2014
Better Together sources sounding confident, saying they're certain they've got their vote out in droves. #indyref #Scotland
— James Cook (@BBCJamesCook) September 18, 2014
A snapshot of what's going on in Pacific Quay tonight. All the #indyref developments here >>> http://t.co/W7hfyV0m9y pic.twitter.com/sInyPF8UDR
— BBC Scotland (@BBCScotland) September 18, 2014
I'm told some of the polling stations in East Renfrewshire area had 98% turnout! Verification process finished turnout figures for here soon
— Jane Lewis (@BBCJaneLewis) September 18, 2014
#indyref night so far:
• Glasgow fraud probe
• Turnouts topping 80%
• Declarations still dueLive here http://t.co/eTLjieobrP
— BBC Scotland News (@BBCScotlandNews) September 18, 2014
BBC's Nick Witchell reports that the Queen is expected to issue a written statement late afternoon on Friday about the result. #indyref
— Kevin Keane (@kkabdn) September 18, 2014
Below is a bullet summary of the most recent developments courtesy of the AFP live blog:
23:58 GMT - Fraud allegations - News breaking that police are investigating allegations of electoral fraud in Glasgow. Officials at the referendum count in Glasgow say they are investigating 10 cases of suspected electoral fraud at polling stations.
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Media reports say it relates to incidents where people turned up to vote and were told they had already voted.
23:47 GMT - Turnout figures - First turnout figures for a couple of areas have just been announced at the count centre in Edinburgh.
In Orkney the turnout was 83.7 percent, in Clackmannanshire 88.6 percent, fitting the trend of what is expected to be extraordinarily high participation.
23:42 GMT - Tribal chief - AFP's Katherine Haddon, at the Edinburgh count centre, says journalists there face a long wait as officials concentrate on the business of counting the huge numbers of ballot papers. But they are not without diversions:
"In the Edinburgh count hall, Benny Wenda, a campaigner for West Papua to be independent from Indonesia, is drawing plenty of attention from journalists, wearing a tribal chief's headdress featuring the head of a bird of paradise," she tells us.
He is in Scotland with the Radical Independence Campaign but normally lives in Oxford and is one of many separatists from other nations who hope the Scottish vote will mobilise support for their own independence battles.
"I'm campaigning for an independence referendum for my people," says Wenda.
23:30 GMT - Roundup - In case you are just joining us, counting is now under way at each of Scotland's 32 polling stations, with the first results expected from around 2am local time. The final vote will not be announced until after 6am, but a running total may well make it possible to call the result before then.
Officials have reported an unprecedented turnout -- up to 90 percent in some areas, with postal votes also high -- and many people have hailed it a victory for democracy, whatever the outcome.
A YouGov poll released after the close of polling predicted a victory for the "No" campaign of 54 percent to 46 for "Yes". But this hasn't stopped large crowds of pro-independence supporters gathering expectantly in Glasgow's George Square and outside the Scottish parliament in Edinburgh.
22:55 GMT - Bookies expect 'No' - Since the close of voting, betting markets have shifted considerably towards a 'No' vote. Bookmakers Ladbrokes said the latest odds were 1/7 'No' 9/2 'Yes'.
22:44 GMT - George Square - In Glasgow, the central George Square is awash with blue and white flags, as thousands of independence supporters await the results.
Globe and Mail correspondent Mark MacKinnon tweets: "On Glasgow's George Square. Crowd waiting for the official count, and hoping the #indyref polls are wrong..."
Other twitter users have posted videos and pictures of flares being lit and flags burned.
22:24 GMT - Looking ahead - Scottish Secretary Alistair Carmichael has invited the SNP to join discussions on more powers for the Scottish Parliament if there is a "No" vote.
He tells STV: "If we have got a no vote as I hope… that's something I would want people from the SNP to be involved in."
Alluding to what at times has been a fiercely fought campaign, he adds: "We have got to heal the wounds that we have inflicted on ourselves."
22:19 GMT - Queen 'watching' - Royal officials tell Britain's Sky News that Queen Elizabeth is watching the referendum results "very closely". Publicly, she has stayed out of the debate, saying it was "a matter for the people of Scotland".
22:13 GMT - Ballot boxes arrive - AFP's Katherine Haddon, in Edinburgh, tells us: "First ballot boxes from polling stations are starting to arrive at the Edinburgh count. In the hall, "Yes" and "No" supporters, some in t-shirts advertising their allegiance, a couple in kilts, cluster in groups chatting to each other, looking anxious. It's going to be a long night."
22:02 GMT - At the Aberdeen count centre representatives from both the "Yes" and "No" campaigns watch on, trying to get a sample feel of the number of votes cast at this stage.
This is one of the biggest counts in the country and First Minister Alex Salmond's vote will be among those counted when the ballot box from his rural home village of Strichen arrives.
21:59 GMT - Aberdeen count - AFP's Robin Millard is at the Aberdeen Exhibition and Conference Centre, where the count for rural Aberdeenshire is taking place. The votes from Aberdeen city are being counted in a separate venue in Scotland's oil capital.
"At the stroke of 10pm, when the polls closed, counting officials immediately went into action," he tells us.
"Boxes of postal votes were tipped out onto the tables and officials in white t-shirts, with blue plastic thimbles for extra purchase on each ballot, began counting the number of votes in piles of 100 to make sure they matched the given tally.
"Plastic boxes filled with sweets are on hand to keep the counters going. With the first piles complete, they drummed their fingers on the tables in anticipation of many, many more."
21:53 GMT - Chairman of the Yes Scotland campaign Dennis Canavan tells Scottish television station STV: "Some people may be super-optimistic… I'm a bit more of a realist, I still think it's neck and neck."
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Finally, for those who enjoy observing events on the ground, here is a live webcast from the ground in Scotland:
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Fuck you and your Rick Roll.
OK. Next UKIP and Nigel Farage will get the vote going for the UK to exit the EU.
That will be a close vote.
It's always a close vote. Makes for better theater.
slaves of UK
The rest of the UK are slaves to Scottish politicians.
Looks like there was huge voter turnout as in Crimea. Of course in Crimea, the huge voter turnout was due to voter fraud according to the MSM. I'm guessing they will spin this one differently.
Did anybody expect it to turn out any other way? Forget the fact that the vote was probably corrupt, the bottom line is the majority of people these days are going to vote for the free stuff and dependency. Most people dont really want freedom.... It's too scary.
Fear and desire rule the world.
Freedom would be nice, but have you seen those new iPhones?!
Yes many thought it would go to the Yes vote. The vote was not corrupt, despite those who wished it so. Americans a case in point. You cannot equate the Us situation with UK at this basic level. The vote for yes, if looked at as what the SNP was adovcating would have been more dependency on a welfare nanny state. A closer union with the EU and signing on to the global warning cabal. Just look at A. Salmond's stated policies. Let's look at his immigration policies also.
What this vote did do is to bring into focus a need for change in the internal policies as to better and more equitable distribution of power and allowing the constituent parts to better determind what needs to be done for their communities---i.e. bringing the electorate closer to their governance.
I always have great respect for your opinions on this blog, now I must disagree.
Pesto says "No" win good for GBP. Rate rise likely in November.
Too early to call yet, Tyler. Dundee just added loads to the "Yes". Glasgow still to come as well. Edinburgh might swing things back, however.
Now it's over.
Star Trek star George Takei has the most popular tweet: "Overheard: "Well, if Scotland votes for independence from the U.K., what's to keep Canada from breaking off from the U.S.?", retweeted over 1400 times.
Or New Zealand breaking away from Australia? OMG consequences!
DUNDEE result is in , first REAL CITY and it's 55k YES 38k No.
Needed that as a TONIC.
INDEPENDENCE CITY NEVER LETS ANYONE DOWN.
Funny was watching an old US film 2 nights ago ' Darby's Rangers i think starring a good James Garner, looked like Phil Marlowe.
Complete lovey garbage but about the AMERICAN RANGERS who were first in all over Europe, clearing the way for invasions.
Stopped and Trained in DUNDEE on crossing the channel.
So what does the "Yes" an d"No " mean?
"Yes" vote ... we want our Independence as a Nation of Men; and,
"No" vote ... we do not want to continue being servant dogs to the British Elite?
Young Scots most likely comprise the vast majority voting "yes". The older Scots already got their "piece of the pie" during better times, and are simply satisfied with what they'd perceive as a more certain, but not necessarily more stable or healthy future.
In other words, the older generations, thanks to some of the wealth they've accumulated during better times, are less dissatisfied, and are thusly corrupted by this wealth, while, at the same time they feel more vulnerable--due in part to their older age--to signficant change. The future generations (children, grandchildren) be damned. The western world had descended long ago into selfishness, greed, and corruption--it has been pervasive and made its way even to those distant from the monetary spigot.
With even a "no" vote, I don't see this to be the end; but rather, instead, as a wave of political unease that will sweep through all of Europe, and even Scotland once again. Unfortunately, for the Central Banks, this is a problem that currency printing cannot solve; in fact, it makes it much much worse...
As someone who always seems to be on the cusp, I agree. I would guess this represents the older folks keeping the status quo versus younger people who realize it is not sustainable and not in their best interests.
I am older and set, but I would gleefully vote for a dissolution of the USA. I gain no benefit from the country.
Enough big areas are in that the No voters seem to have a victory tonight. The Yes voter leader just lost his own district. It will be close, but the gap is widening.
I'll switch from Kentucky Whiskey to Scotch if they vote yes. That will help with the economics part I think.
Update: I'll never drink Scotch again because I don't like English Whiskey.
Ahh, more clickbait headlines from ZH. perhaps youd like some silver coins to go with your headlines? (buy silver, crash JPMorgan, bitchez!!!)
Anyway, if you want the real, live, UNBIASED results, go here: http://www.bbc.com/news/events/scotland-decides/results
The vote will be NO, and i can already see the OMG! CONSPIRACY! MANIPULATION! BANKSTERS! circlejerk headlines from ZH tomorrow.
Charles? Prince Charles?
BBC is the "real, live, UNBIASED results"? You forget a sarc tag there, mate?
BBC has really gone downhill of late
It has been in the seweres ever since Tom Baker quit as Doctor Who.
If King George would have put as many colonists on the dole as Scotland has today, America would still be an English colony because the vote for independence would never have passed in Philadelphia!
Truer words were never spoken... and if all else fails you can just pay half of the poor people to kill the other half.
Irish Whiskey for me, lads.
At least they took a piss out of the Brits.. .
I'll never buy a drop of Scotch again. Jameson or Paddy till the day I die.
The fucking worthless Scots! Bunch of fucking pansy candy asses too busy sucking on the English tit to even want their freedom. They are a fucking disgrace who do not deserve to be called Scottish any longer. They should be called English from here on out. They should be put in big concentration camps by the English and all killed. That is the fate they deserve for their lack of courage. They make me puke. I would piss on the heads of the whole lot of them. FUCK YOU, SCOTLAND. Believe me, if there is ever a vote for a free Texas, I would vote for it even if I had to live in a cave and eat dog food for the rest of my life - at least I would be a free Texan.
Learn to speak Spanish then as Texas will be going back to Mexico sooner rather than later.
...or join Coahuila, Chihuahua, Durango and Monterey in a second attempt at a Constitutional Northern Mexico.
The Mexicans have no modern Santa Anna to get everyone back in line.
You have to understand that for Englishmen, Scotland has been the leech for 300 years.
Cut 'em loose if they are a burden. Same old shit, we are doing it for your own good. Right.
Noticed the so called Scotland patriots in Stirling
Voted 60% No to Scotland Independence.
Allegedly Stirling Bridge was where William Wallace of "Braveheart" fame fought the British and the movie won a lot of Oscars and so on and so forth.
So much for Hollywood mythmaking.
A GIANT CLUSTERFUCK FOR MANKIND!
Need to break up into municipalities and take up arms/annex the treacherous .gov masonic orange order war mongering Slaves.
Some Cities can hold their heads high. Shame on the Cowardly fucks who ' once again sold the country to the highest bidders. '
Hey man, leave us out of this one.
Yes is No? Oops time for a recount
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/YesinNo.jpg
From the diaspora:
Ashley MacIsaac & Buddy MacMaster opening for White Stripes
Pussies. Then accept to be continued to be humiliated by the English.
The banksters have spoken.
An American, not US subject.
Just a note: it took the American colonies nearly 80 years to finally declare independence. And many colonies only reluctantly went along with it eventually. AFTER the war broke out.
but the ones most keen were Scots......result of The Highlabnd Clearances no doubt
Scots-Irish mostly and were Protestants they left for America because of high rents in Ulster.
No food, potato famine, embargo by England, and other reasons.
Half - HALF of the island left or died.
Hardly. Carolinas were thr strong areas of Loyalist support for the crown outside of New York (especially up state) and NJ.
Say what you like about the UK and Scotland at least they got to have a vote. Americans are never going to get a say in being independent from DC. No matter how many pointless whitehouse petitions they make.
There's an old Zen saying that goes something like...
Sometimes ones roots have to reach deep into the bowels of Hell before ones leaves can attain the lofty heights of Heaven.
what time is it?
Then, again, it's hard to find fault with the Scots when one lives in the "land of the free, home of the brave".
This vote was always goingto be NO. Nothing colours ones decision more than self interest, this in the end was about jobs.
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!
These morons should have imported the polling method of Brazil.
All computerized and paper to prove!
All tied the judiciary (not in the business far less in the legislature).
Again, morons!
Knew "arming" freedom but, going forward, there is no trust in the army of England, there will always be a disgruntled Irish.
hehe.
Very dangerous ! The Act of Union 1707 was a product of the Revolution of 1688, itself a fear of renewed Civil War as in 1641.
Scotland was the spark that set off the English Civil War in 1640. Maybe these results are the "New Covenanters" which will lead to turmoil in England.
The whole basis of Parliament being permanent is the English Civil War and the abolition of The Council of The North came 1641.
If you don't know English Constitutional History you will not understand that this is the Beginning not the End, and English political structures will now unravel
Okay like all here you are oblivious as to what happened in 1707 the Scots were totally bankrupt well beyond that actually as they had blown all their cash on setting up a colony in Panama a mosquito infested hell hole with Ginger haired people who burn in moonlight. As a result of this all going t*ts up they came begging to England who initially refused their advances for a unified parliament if the English would pay off their debts, the vote in the Scottish Parliament was unaminous. They did so willingly because they had effed up without help from anyone else.
I guess if we had refused them they would have endured a famine, and Englishmen would now be expected to apologize for the Scottish Haggis Famine or some such. Whatever we do, we are expected to apologize.
you fuckin hun bastard I guess you're taking a swipe at us in Ireland, firstly we never asked you cocksuckers to come here and secondly it wasn't a famine, a famine is what happens when there's no rain and in case you missed it we get plenty of rain, you huns were exporting food from the land you stole from us. But then again I laugh at you you're probably another union jack waving little englander who loves the queen, I'll let you in on a secret she doesn't care about you and her and her inbred family are helping to destroy england throuh mass immigration to england, so you might mock the scots and paddies but in 50 years time your kids will be a minority in an islamic/african state.
The decision will be always made on the battle field, never casting a ballot. See Ukraine, see Iraq, see Egypt, see Myamar.
It is enough that the people know there was an election. The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything. - Joseph Stalin
Scotland "the Brave".
Seems, like Ireland, they just love having someones boot on their necks.
Fucking faggots. Texas, your move...
Englishmen get to carry both. The Celtic Burden.
you fuckin hun bastard I guess you're taking a swipe at us in Ireland, firstly we never asked you cocksuckers to come here and secondly it wasn't a famine, a famine is what happens when there's no rain and in case you missed it we get plenty of rain, you huns were exporting food from the land you stole from us. But then again I laugh at you you're probably another union jack waving little englander who loves the queen, I'll let you in on a secret she doesn't care about you and her and her inbred family are helping to destroy england throuh mass immigration to england, so you might mock the scots and paddies but in 50 years time your kids will be a minority in an islamic/african state.
p.s I'm actually begining to laugh at the tough of your granddaughter victoria being one of Muhammads many wives in bradford.
I'm with you brother, fuck the Queen.
The Irish used blood guts and bullets to get free of the Brits, and they need the rest of their Ireland back. Send the Scots back to Scottland.
Ever notice the slavemasters allways try to justify their actions by claiming they are doing it for the good of the slave?
Paddy: I live in Co Mayo, Ireland. My major point here is that its like any of the formerly conquered nations, even once they gain some semblance of controlling their own destiny, immediately hand it over to a new slavemaster.
Ireland mostly got out from under that cunt of a queen and then proceeded to sell their souls to the EU. Irish politicians, and those that blindly follow them, are among the worst people walking the earth.
The Scotch twats seem to suffering from some kind of sovereign-based Stockholm Syndrome.
15 years, not 50. And its the queer, not the queen. Thats why princess had to die.
http://www.bobbysandstrust.com/writings/the-voyage
fuck you and the horse you rode in on, man I knew the education system in the us sucks and that you've being dumbed down, but Ireland were never given a vote we had to fight from 1916 to 1921 and even then we only got 3/5s of the island, coindicentally poplulated with the loyalists descendents of the scots, who were always worse than the hun, man during the troubles the scots were the worse troops in ulster, again at least we fought there. The scots are english dick sucking scum.
as an aside it wouldn't really matter if the scots voted yes because like Ireland they would still be a part of the eussr. jew controlled central bank system and like here their elite would sell them down the river.
paddy, re: "if the scots voted yes because like Ireland they would still be a part of the eussr". by EUSSR you mean either the EU or the eurozone
and the answer in both cases is no. both clubs other members made it clear that if Scotland would leave the UK, it would not be part of the EU anymore, and would have to join the queue to enter, with some predicting several years until entry. and the question of Scotland joining the eurozone was even more remote, with Scotland's nationalists preferring to stay in the British Pound Zone instead of joining the EUR Zone (aka eurozone), for which anyway you need to qualify
My god , can we shut the fuck up about this non-story now?
PLEASE??????
sure, friday... not have to request it, this is normal rhythm.
tonite's gonna be a good nite.. i got a feeling,, yihouuuuu yihouuuuu....
fuck that. every fucking thing on the setup is rigged.
What flipped a switch in my head was when I read a small news tippet about the Queen summoning Cameron for a private ' chat ' about Scottish independence.
Now why would the Queen do that and let it be known? that's not her normal style.
Shortly after that there was another small news story crafted and designed to try and distance the Queen from any political opinion or involvement then just like that it was gone / retracted.
That's when I suspected something was going down and this vote would be a foregone conclusion.
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This was the easiest political event to make money off of that I can remember regrading the pound.
Outcome was obvious as day and the vote isn't 'rigged.' Pensioners and areas that had older populations voted 'yes'
That is really what this about and the whole issues in the EU especially in Spain. It is the youth who are being a future by the status quo, have taken to the streets, and yet haven't been able to overcome the larger demographic numbers of pensioners and soon to be pensioners.
Issue is playing out on a smaller scale in the US and it why marriage rates and household formations at are 80 and 90 year lows per capita
For a site that prides itself on alternative and intelligent viewpoints, increasingly they are just ranting streams of garbage (foreign policy and political ones including this article).
Massive overnight spike takes out all Index shorts
Dow hit 17367
S&P 2022
Dax 9880
Nikkei 16317
USJPY 10946
FTSE 6903 although understandable the rest not really
Seems to be Sell the news so far
Ehm.. just over 50% no sayers in every single state..
Might be real, but very rare that there is such a united thought of independence.
For me, I´d like to have been there counting the votes.
A fixed Scotland vs. England soccer match. Who profits?
Scots that voted NO should have moved to England and stayed home without bothering to vote.
Well now they can count on one thing, at least. It looks like they will be building a lot of cultural centers all over Scotland. Bravo, Scotland!
If given the choice between two fancy identities; Churchill, Monty Python and Samuel Taylor Coleridge on the one hand, and bagpipes and haggis on the other, I think I would have gone the same way.
'Freedom' was never on offer anyway.
Well.
Got to say as a Scot I'm ashamed. The result just confirms my decision to emigrate 20 years ago. I suspected this would be the result but had hoped for more. The southern English hold the Scots in contempt and they are absolutely right to do so.
Land of sheeple.
BTW, when the SHTF as empires crumble from within (America I'm talking about you), it's pretty clear that the majority of most populations are basically sheep who will do just what they're told to, just as the Germans did also.
Worth keeping in mind when preparing for harder times ahead.
In that light. A video of No supporters at a recent rally:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcE5aDTszrY
Kilt wearing pussy farts. How we ever going to deconstruct the NWO and Goldman Sachs with these punks on our side.
The vote was rigged. Nobody can gain freedom from the internationalists through a simple vote.
Evidence of rampant fraud:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbJif7vISQg
Political power comes from the barrel of a gun because the authorities will not respect a ballot.
Someone is downvoting all the comments calling this blatant fraud a fraud. Some butthurt Monarchist or unionist must be doing it.
No, that's evidence of someone moving some paper about.
Without knowing what is on them, where they're being moved from to, what stage of the count she's at etc it isn't evidence of anything else.
it was a forgone conclusion, rigged and a welfare state, sad really
Well, the European Bureaucrats had clearly told Scotland beforehand : If you go your own way we DON'T want you in Eurozone.
No hand outs or Europrotection for an Independent Scotland from us!
Awesome message from Euro bureaucrats to Scotland --(All to protect EZ's relation with 60 million strong England; land of plutocratic Oligarchs)--.
It had its effect on 5 million Scot voters as they were all for joining the Eurozone and leaving £ dictat of City on their economy. The young in Scotland got that message right.
It was also a similar warning to Catalonian independentists in Spain. Eurozone does not want Spain to be divided for the same reasons of losing power and central cohesion.
So, now Scotland stays British and the Labour party keeps its 40 scottish seats for its future battles in Westminster.
But... what happens if Cameron has a referendum, under Euroskeptic pressure, in the next two years and BRITAIN decides to leave the Euroland???
Then, the poor Scots will have been doubly phukked, well and truly!
What a conundrum for Bonny Prince Charlie land!
This was the trial run. The FUD strategy works. No way the UK can exit the EU now, TPTB have it sussed.
If (repeat IF) Cameron holds an EU In/Out referendum at some time, the Scots will vote to stay in, thereby supporting what Cameron wants.
And many English will also vote to stay in because there would be a massive "In" campaign engineered/co-ordinated by ALL political parties. Cameron will simply lie by claiming he has achieved major concessions from Brussels whereas they won't be worth a bag of beans.
There is no getting out of the bail-ins. Now you know we’ll be bailing out the banks again. LOL
Scottish cowards.
What do you expect from CNN, tho the irony is thick. I guess this means there are slightly more retired people taking their pension than young unemployed because of central bank corruption and failed policies.
Cowards die a thousand deaths.
Suspicions of vote rigging...
http://www.jaxobserver.com/2014/09/19/scotland-vote-rigging-possible-as-...
What's with all the fucking "down votes" here anyway?...
Have we got an Anglophile on ZH, or is it just "David Mayer" de R. having some more fun at our expense?...
LORD AND LADY DOUCHEBAG!!!
Looks like her majesty will be keeping Balmoral Castle tax free along with the North Sea oil!
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Whether the Scottish indy vote was rigged or not (did Gordoom Brown spend the last six months filling out fake postal votes?), the accepted result is that 55% of Scots voted to continue having their lives ordered by Westminster in return for being allowed to keep sucking at the teet of the English taxpayer.
This is the result I always predicted and events over the last week or two were just a distraction to give the appearance of people wrestling with a momentous decision. Truth is that very few people anywhere choose to bite the hand that feeds them and the Scots are no different.
55% of Scots have shown the world they are incapable of standing on their own two feet. Much better to continue living on English welfare. Such is socialism.
wrong!
all eu citiyens, who live in Scotland, are/were eligible to vote. And this is 8% of the total inhabitants.
My guess is, that they voted NO. So your idea with 55% is from begining on wrong.
But in truth you have no idea how they voted.
There were reasons for voting either way. eg: perhaps they left their home EU country because they were sick of the EU shambles, unemployment, gov bankruptcy etc etc.
Learn how it is done, sheeple:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbJif7vISQg
(SCOTLAND INDEPENDENCE VOTE RIGGING EXPOSED - Smoking Gun Evidence of Vote Being Rigged!)Let them think they have a choice. In reality, there is NO choice.
Of course it was rigged. TPTB always win.
How vote-rigging was done:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbJif7vISQg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRWWilODlsc
Real video proof of vote rigging.They stuffed up this time.Lets get this going viral. http://youtu.be/kUR-HgAtwtg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbJif7vISQg
Yawn.. Now news here. What the hell does one expect of so-called men who wear dresses and obviously enjoy being dominated by effete inbred queer English girlymen? If the Russians decide to take Scotland, they'll do it in an afternoon while the metrosexual Scotsmen are sipping their afternoon English tea, nibbling their gourmet English biscuits, adjusting their Belgian lace panties under their dresses, and getting buggered by their English Lords.
To all Scots:
YOU MAKE ME SICK!