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Caught On Tape: What Happens When You Try To Exercise Your Constitutional Rights In Illinois
Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
What follows is the most powerful recorded police checkpoint scene I have witnessed since posting: Extremely Powerful Video – Happy 4th of July from a Police State Checkpoint, last summer.
While the former incident happened in Tennessee, the following occurred in Illinois. The American pleb who was accosted by Illinois State Police was DeKalb resident Ryan Scott.
While it starts off slow, make sure you watch it all the way to the end.
While one of the the police officers is reasonable, the other one can’t stop yelling and seems to derive a particular pleasure from repeatedly informing the citizen he supposed to “protect and serve” that “driving is not a right, it’s a privilege.”
See for yourself:
What’s also interesting, is you have to wonder if the second officer would have acted even more aggressively if Ryan hadn’t informed him he was being recorded at the end of the conversation.
He seems to have backed down slightly upon understanding the repercussions of the recording. It just goes to show the importance of filming police encounters.
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They cannot outlaw dash cams for a couple reasons;
1) What would be their legal basis? It is already established that one has no expectation to privacy in a public place. Being recorded in a public area is ok.
2) How would someone justify it?
Are you kidding me? They have a justification for everything.
dey got no justif'cation fo' nothin...dat why dey can do it...I fix for ya'...
If it is an inclusion to the Patriot Act, all dashcams will be outlawed.
There's already a law against distracted driving in most states where one is not allowed to use a cell phone behind the wheel. Sometimes it includes interaction with devices such as the GPS. Often the law lists prohibited items simply as "electronic devices". To ban dash cams all they have to do is include them in the category and I bet they already can. The device is being "operated" while behind the wheel.
Then again, police can just shoot you in the face and come up with excuses later.
Somebody give that cop a Nobel Prize.
They will outlaw Dashcams under the same laws they are writing to outlaw you Operating "An Electronic Device or Cell Phone" To prevent you from driving distracted to protect the public. They will sneak it into the next anti texting and or cell phone calling law silly, as always " It's for THE CHILDREN."
Wow saw the other post after I put mine up now I feel silly, but we both know how they will spin this stuff.
....it's for THE CHILDREN"...
Slightly OT, but just barely....here in FEMA Region 5 Indianapolis, IN, I recently heard our local Police spokespukes on the radio lamenting the improved encryption of iOS 8 and locking police out of the devices on the "for the children" argument.
Miserable statist fucking puke.
HaHa, listen to this guy....with his, "justify".
Think about it -- what possible justification could they use to say
"Hey now -- no recording in your car."
Christ, I bet your personal phone has two cameras on it as does your work phone. Thats 4 cameras you carry around everywhere. Having one in your car shouldn't be a problem -- unless they want to start banning people from having cell phone cameras, and camcorders in public places.
Try taking your cell phone camera into a Public Place like a Federal Courthouse!
I've taken a iPhone to a Federal Courthouse. FPS didn't say anything about it and I didn't record anything. Audio would have been easy to do surreptitiously from the shirt pocket, video would have been difficult. They did object to my handcuff key though.
Now a Social Security office is a whole 'nother matter. There it depends on the guard's whim as to what's prohibited.
Agreed. Just like carrying a camera on the street. You are legally allowed to film the police doing their job in public. I think that dash cam saved his ass. He probably would have been arrested or roughed up if they didn't know they were being filmed.
They can do whatever the fuck they want. That's the basic problem.
"How could they justify it?"
Interefering with an investigation
Only in Russia you have your freedom of a dashcam.
Rep. Mike Honda, D-San Jose, has announced legislation that would block civilians from accessing military-grade body armor to prevent criminals from using them in gun battles with law enforcement.
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Rep-Mike-Honda-Introduces-Bill-Banning-Civilians-from-Buying-Body-Armor-270223431.html
"Everyone should have a dashcam. Period."
The NSA approves this message.
I won't let my husband put one inside the house for "security." Won't, won't, won't.
He is, however, ex-NSA. He is a bit of trip to live with. I presume no privacy at all.
Make that everyone "Must" have one by Law, and that in itself would be an added boost for the economy (GDP) - 253 million cars and trucks, and with a reasonable "ex China" dashcam being around $85, that's over $21 BILLION in Consumer Spending, just on ONE item . . . .
I'm surprised the "Powers that Be" haven't realised this yet - and made fitting at least a "necessary" requirement to obtain vehicle insurance.
http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy-ihs-automotive-average-age-car-20140609-story.html
http://www.dx.com/p/g50-full-hd-1080p-5-0mp-170-coms-g-sensor-loop-recording-car-dvr-camcorder-blcak-sliver-323001#.VCH40_N-99A
Not only should everyone have a dash-cam, they should have TWO: One out in the open (which may get whacked by the Cops, or they will point at and order you to turn it off -- which you do), and a second on that's professionally installed and practically invisible, and which keeps recording (after the cheap/dummy on the dash has been neutralized). If it were me, I'd have it upload to my online email or ftp account, in case they want to take the entire unit and its SD card.
BTW, EVERYONE on ZH really MUST go to YT, search for "never talk to the police" and watch several top picks. Then practice some drills, so you can remain calm and effective in a real situation, cause Cops are trained to throw you off your game by making you scared or angry. Regular practice (mental drill while driving) will help you keep calm and on top.
Re: "One out in the open...and a second..."
Shhhhhh. ;-)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4nQ_mFJV4I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik <<
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08fZQWjDVKE
Haus, if they really would be pissed, they could just rip the cam out of the car and beat the shit out of that guy. For resisting and officer of the law and not complying and even attempted assault. Plant a few crumbs of pot. The citizen is fubard.
Amplification:
All really cheap. Can be streamed to the phone with one app. If the fairies in brass are far enough in the car to grab your com center (cell phone) you didn't give a shit in the first place. Harden your car as necessary.
Also lock your door, Jesus Christ dude.
"The cops don't need you, and they expect the same of you"---bob Dylan.
Should have tazed him.
Taze the cop? oh then I agree.
Taze everyone - taze them all - no exceptions, me, you, them, everyone! Do it now! Taze me, bro!
“Police are inevitably corrupted. ... Police always observe that criminals prosper. It takes a pretty dull policeman to miss the fact that the position of authority is the most prosperous criminal position available.”
-Frank Herbert
Bingo!!
How To Call The Police When You're Old... And Don't Move Fast Anymore
George Phillips, an elderly man from Walled Lake, Michigan, was going up to bed, when his wife told him that he'd left the light on in the garden shed, which she could see from the bedroom window. George opened the back door to go turn off the light, but saw that there were people in the shed stealing things.
He phoned the police, who asked: "Is someone in your house?" He said: "No, but some people are breaking into my garden shed and stealing from me". Then the police Dispatcher said: "All patrols are busy. You should lock your doors and an officer will be along when one is available."
George said, "Okay." He hung up the phone and counted to 30. Then he phoned the police again.
"Hello... I just called you a few seconds ago because there were people stealing things from my shed. Well, you don't have to worry about them now because I just shot and killed them both; the dogs are eating them right now," and he hung up.
Within five minutes, six Police Cars, a SWAT Team, a Helicopter, two Fire Trucks, a Paramedic and an Ambulance showed up at the Phillips' residence, and caught the burglars red-handed. One of the Policemen said to George, "I thought you said that you'd shot them!"
George said, "I thought you said there was nobody available!" Don't mess with old people!
MORAL: If The System (private or public) no longer works for you and is actually doing you a huge disservice or injustice, “Raise the bar, raise the Game”. Use your Brains+Guile, because that combo usually beats The System. Some old people know this. Successful crooks know this, and TPTB know this. That’s how they got to be TPTB when they were still Crooks.
You forget where he later gets charged for false reports to law enfocement, loses at trial, and is sentenced to 6 months in jail or more, and ordered to pay resitutuion for the ambulance and firetruck etc to come to the house for no reason. Costing him $1,000's!
Fuck You!
;
ruining my happy story like that.
it is because he is black, so racist
I have faithfully recorded EVERY police interaction I have had (there are plenty of them from speeding tickets, to loud noise violations, to speeding, etc.). I never tell them I am recording, but the police, in general, get really pissed off when us plebes ask them questions of any sort. I have been able to baffle cops many times and they leave angry and confused and I have received my fair share of tickets.
Here is my line of questioning I generally follow -
What is the nature and cause of the your stop, officer?
Is that a criminal or civil matter?
Who is the injured party in this complaint?
Am I being detained?
Am I free to go?
I will assert my right to remain silent right now.
I need to put the videos up on YouTube again.
Good job.
I have stopped handing the officers my drivers license, when I am just travelling.
I verbaly identify myself by my first name only.
When they ask me when I was born, I tell them that I don't remember.
lol, sure
Aw, C'mon man! You were there weren't you?
This coupled with "yes" or "no" answers really throws them off.
Doc, do you (or anyone else here) know if you get pulled over for what you're sure was a traffic violation (slight speeding at Warp 1), and the Cop asks you for you papers -- without telling you WHY he's pulled you over?
Do you have the Right to have him give you the reason, or should you cave to his belligerent threats (to take you in), if you do not provide him with the papers? Does this vary from State to State? I ask, because I had such an incidence in WA a few years back, and I was too much in a hurry to waste my time with the hothead.
I am not sure about the arbitrary edicts of government fools, but I will generally hold my papers in my hand (showing my intention to give them at some point) and keep firing off questions.
+1
Also, consider posting a small sign at your home's entrance stating no entry without written consent of the homeowner, with the citation for your state's appropriate trespassing statute. Police are trained to get verbal consent for entry (or say they did) from anybody, the maid, your kid, and you. A sign may make the police think twice, and can give your lawyer something to work with, since the Fourth Amendment is long dead.
This guy has a few videos out there and while I appreciate and understand the "awareness campaign" he is on, just wait until he "baits" the wrong idiot. If it's a martyr he wants to be, he may yet get his wish...
That's the only good thing about america, if you work hard enough and have some smarts, you can usually get what you want. So that's good I guess.
I knew a retired cop who was very serious about any encounter with cops just as I knew a nurse who was most frightened person I've ever seen when she was a patient.
I wasn't scared to fly until I worked on avionics... I wasn't scared of the military until I worked for it. Ignorance is bliss...
The "only good thing about America"?!
What a vastly ignorant, broad-brush comment.
Well, certainly it's one good thing... that better asshat?
Asshat? Must be Canadian.
LoP, that's why I prefer to take the shrewd but layered approach to dealing with cops:
1. First line of defense is always to keep a Calm, Pleasant demeanor -- no matter what! Don't make him "barking mad". You gain NOTHING, but may lose a lot. If you gotta be on the Offense, then resort to Reagan-style Irish "Charm Offensive". If you just gotta.
2. Play along if he's doing his job, and comply to the letter. Offer no additional info or comments, and do NOT attempt clever remarks, since you do not know his mood or sense of humor.
3. If you're certain he's fishing for more info, if he's Pretexting (lawful lying and deception, to which he's allowed but you are not), or if he's Out Of Bounds and his demands are unlawful, then you may want to turn "Legalese" on the guy. While doing your utmost to remain calm and pleasant. I figure if I give him an easy Out at the emotional level, and bar the door shut with a few FAQs and with legal Rights retorts, that eventually he'll do The Right Thing. Or odds are that he will.
p.s. This kind of police aggression is far more common in the US than in any Western country I know of. In large part it's baked into the US culture, I'm afraid, where cops are quick and eager to draw their guns, tazers, etc. -- either by 'training' (bad training) or temperament (poor recruiting).
All very great comments, Capt.
There have been occasions that humor has worked for me.
In regard to speeding, which I seldom do and only when necessary, I do adhere to the Hunter S Thompson method.
When you realize you are in a speed trap, don't mash the brake. Accelerate slightly and wave. Mashing the brake arrouses contempt in the cop heart. Waving says, yes, I realize I am speeding and I know you are there. I am comfortable with this speed. Have a good day. I've had troopers wave back.
I've never gotten a ticket.
Closest I came was being pulled over and the trooper asking me if I knew how fast I was driving.
I smiled and said "yes." (long pause) "As fast as the jeep would go".
He laughed and told me to dial it back and left.
Mrs. Questions the first and I once inadvertently engaged police in a high speed chase.
inadvertently because the car I was trying to evade was not marked, no flashing lights either.
once the back up joined the chase ( I was making ground ), I pulled over. Stopped.
So, there we were: lots of cops screaming, guns out and aimed at us. me YELLING back.
YELLING..."I stopped once the real police showed up!"
..
..
then what I can only describe as a Sheriff Andy Taylor sort of man arrived, their boss.
Yelling stopped. He asked me (now in cuffs, kneeling) what happened..
"my fiance and I stopped to have sex behind a warehouse and this Chevy S10 came right up on us and I got in the front seat and took off because I thought we were going to get robbed and once you're COP CARS showed up I stopped. I did not know that first car was the police."
The Sheriff sorta chuckled (in that been there done that, ha ha ha, sort a way), and whispered something into the arresting officer's ear. Arresting Officer, noticeably disappointed, reluctantly took off the cuffs, and let us go like he just lost a fucking game.
I was TOTALLY DRUNK when this all went down, btw. we drove off to the next party that night.
true story.. c. Jan. 1992 Pompano Beach FL..
LOP, yeah right! I felt the same about MLK, Gandhi, Flaming monks the whole damn lot. How dare they use peaceful opportunities to point out their rights to the enforcers of properly voted upon edicts.. Should of outlawed those guys, those edicts were properly voted upon, right..
Fuck the police.
Fuck the bankers, the "police" will follow...
...comin' straight from the underground!
250 million arrests in the last 20 years in the land of the free. That is considerably more than adults in USA. Welcome to the land of the free and the home of the slave.
Easily the highest number of prisoners per capita in the world. We are #1 in being a fascist, police state.
But Obama does look better than Kim Jong-un in a taupe suit. And he has already bombed 7 Muslim countries.
Respect my authorit-eye!
Cops get the best drugs. Only they don't share, at least outside the criminal justice system. Every hooker knows good cop stories.
Maybe here, but the best dope I used to buy in London was still in Met, Police
evidence bags.
Scary thought is what would have happened to him if he got out of the car . . . and off camera.
I had a comment but I forgot it when a Humana commercial came on about how much they care and are going to make healthcare better.
"Let's do it together" they were saying, with pictures of little Babbies and Grandparents, and smiling people.
You have health insurance, but you cannot afford surgery? You should have bought HUM stock.
Thanks h_h, good one.
If I don't buy corporate insurance they'll send the statist police.
Obey the Kleptoligarchy or you will be bullied.
Tee Vee, the mind killer!
Wait wait wait. What the hell are you talking about. Obama and the democrats really fucked over insurance companies when this ACA was passed. Didn't they?
Brave man, kudos to him!
The second police officer reminds me of the Treat Williams character in "Things To Do In Denver - When You're Dead".
A vastly under-rated movie starring Andy Garcia.
I suspect officer #2 is a closet "feces eater" just like Treat was. lol (I guess)
Glad i dont live in that bastard country of ass
So are we.
Stay far away.
you like your psycho cops you can keep your psycho cops
I surely will stay away from your bastard police state
you can bet on it
Driving is not a privilege. It is a right, at least that is what the supreme court says.
http://www.realtruth.biz/driving/supremecourt.htm
Thank you for posting the link.
Awesome link!
Dude has balls. I was nervous just watching. Cops are out of fucking control.
That is the best penis enhancement commerical I've ever seen.
Driving is not a right but privilege?
Huh?
That sure Doesnt apply to all the immigrants that the globalist's are cattle carring into the west. It seems to me that the objective to immigrate all these new Americans is to get these unskilled drivers into brand new cars and get them on the road as soon as possible and have them exercise their patriotic obligation of purchasing new cars and new houses before they're even sworn in and given citizenships.
But seriously, these police and politicians have too way much authority.
Theyre authority needs to be beat back.
It's seems whitey ihas become a second class citizen
While driving is a privlege and not a right, it does not mean the cop has the right to revoke that privlege at will or violate other rights of the individual. That cop works on sheer intimidation.
It's time we reigned in the gestapo and let them know they are here working for us, not the other way around.
Public service is a priviledge, not a right.
Immigrants stand on the corners and never get harrassed. They work freely in kitchens, roofs and lawns across the country. The IRS never harasses them on the under-the-table money they make and send back to their home country.
But the system sure likes to attack and harrass it's own.
It is amazing how peaceful resistance drives people crazy. That cop is all but gnashing his teeth. Typical sick American.
< When living in a fascist totalitarian country, it is advised to show your ID.
< Or end up dead
the dude in the car may be trying to make a point about his rights, but from the start he's going about it the wrong way. You do not want to put the police on the defensive when they are trying to do their job.
That's like going to the dentist and warning him about how you're going to sue if he messes up.
yes, you must obey...
You and your neighbors collectively get together and hire an employee to patrol your neighborhood and do security. Then, one day, the security guard (that you've decided to call a "police officer") decides to harrass the living shit out of you, verbally assault you... and then beats the living crap out of your neighbor while tazing him until he shits himself.
Then, a few real dumbasses who happen to be in your neighborhood say: "Well, he should know his place while talking to his employee. His employee was just trying to do his job."
My question is: Who should you hang first?
.."You and your neighbors collectively get together and hire an employee to patrol your neighborhood and do security"..
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=trailer+park+boys&qpvt=trailer+park+...
..sometimes that doesn't work out well..
If there is any confusion it is best to start alphabetically
This was a good post.
I will say this, I have had employers who needed their ass kicked. They were abusive to the employees. But yeah, you can go work elsewhere.
Why not? They're paid employees.
Trying to do their job, as in: Show me your PAPERS. Sounds like NAZI Germany, doesn't it?
"Just following orders 'til my pension kick-in".
exactly...when the realize they aint getting the shit they ben promised by their bought and payed for corrupt politician assholes their attentions will turn elsewhere..
fucking phychos on the taxpayers dime...
thats why i aint payin no mother fuckin taxes....EVER.
You better be as invisible as Kaiser Sousa because the IRS has big fucking jackboots that they can fit up anyone's ass.
I'm just following orders and doing my job. Please respect that.
Now, undress and go stand in the gas...er shower chambers.
I'm just doing my job.
Yes, by and large our local police departments offer very lucrative pensions. Also, their unions force arbitration for any "personel actions" such as when they deny citizens their rights - or shoot someone in the back. They are, in fact, a protected class. But its more than that. They are authorized to use violence to enforce the law. That authority is emphasized by training, esprit de corps, and the personal predilictions of those who wish to be LEOs (they routinely beat their wives you know). In short, civil security in the U.S. is enforced by a gang of thugs with badges. If we wish to see this change, we might look into how England, which had less than 10 incidents of police officers discharging firearms in 2013, train and equip their police officers. http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/police-in-england-and-wales-went-two-...
You need to know what's going on at the start.
Fuck that shit. I have never, in my adult life, had a non-consensual encounter with a dentist. Some cops make it a point to push for confrontation, and not with the consent of the other party. They should respect people's rights, or their lives should be made so miserable that they opt for suicide.
I respect the rights of fast food workers to mix piss, shit, scabs and cum in the cops food.
A bit harsh Tyler.
They all don't deserve it, just like real humans some of them do deserve it; but how do you tell which ones deserve it?
Guilt by association goes both ways.
If they treat everybody like garbage, they deserve it. If they look the other way when their fellow officers treat people like garbage, they deserve it. If they don't let their fellow officers get away with bullshit, they don't deserve it.
It's simple. Policing is turning into a very "us vs them" thing. Police culture is turning into a very non-community based thing, and we're going to feel the effects of it.
You know all this NFL stuff with domestic violence?
According to research, NFL players have less than half the occurances of DV as the general population.
Cops on the other hand have 2 to 4 times (20-40% depending on which studies you are looking at) the amount of DV as the average population (which is 10%). And they are less likely to be prosecuted for it. They are prosecuted more often for theft and drug use. The only thing the prosecute their own for even less is DUI.
DUPILICATE REDACTED
Except you go to the dentist volunarily for his EXPERTISE for YOUR BENEFITt. This is NOT voluntary, and there's NO EXPERTISE from some jerk (just because he has a badge doesn't make him any less of a jerk) snorting his words because he's amped up on red bull or steroids and getting stopped without probable cause for fishing expedition benefits only the STATE and the legal apparatus.
Your attempt an analogy is an EPIC FAIL.
randon road checks are fishing expeditions and impede free flow of traffic. nothing to do with orginal intent
Yes - he should be submissive and polite as he is asked for his papers to prove he is a citizen.
They need to implement these check points so they can find all the illegal immigrants and then let them go.
Obama wants to find all the illegals so he can register them to vote.
Hey beano, Did we watch the same vid? He never threatened anyone with anything. BTW, your ugly, have I threatened you or your momma or neither?
The beatings will continue until your attitue improves, citizen. Now shut the hell up while I rape your daughter.
Imagine if this was reversed and the citizen ripped his door open and started raising his voice and got up in his face. Oh wait..I'll have Michael Brown explain that one...
No bad analogy. You are a dimwit and useful tool.
Before the age of DVRs I have had to pass numerous roadside traffic checks in CA. In all cases being courteous and shutting up and only answering their questions and responding with DL and registration has gotten me through vwey quickly. I never realized how many immigrants drive without insurance or docs.
you make an excellent sheeple. this might be a stretch but there are certain unalienable rights that formed the basis of a piece of paper called the constitution. the constitution outlined the practical application of those unalienable rights where it applies to .gov's relationship to the citizen. one of the rights, among many, is the implied right(formed by legal precedence) of privacy from .gov intrusion. one of the legal ways law enforcement has found works effectively in making people voluntarily give up their rights is to simply ask or intimidate with authority or both. the key here is you consent voluntarily to give up your rights so the cop can do what he wants. some people are really opposed to this "voluntary" deception. that is a correctly held sentiment.
you have decided any personally held conviction about your legal rights take a back seat to moving through the line as fast as possible. that is a correctly held sentiment also.
niehter sentiment precludes or excludes the fact that cops are assholes and should be treated with that in mind at all times.
Moral of the story: If you're going to be a criminal, comply with all the bullshit rituals and don't make a big deal out of it. That way they'll never need to even open the trunk and find the drugs, bombs, body parts (take your pick) etc...
You may believe it violates your constitutional rights to be forced to stop, provide you license and insurance papers etc. Unfortunately tThe valid statutes, constitutional sections and case law demonstrate you are wrong. Knowing your rights is fine. Asserting rights you don't have is a good way to get clubbed.
"Your crime is contempt of cop. Your punishment is a beatdown. Oh, I'm being recorded? Give me that fucking camera!"
Across the street an armed robber just shot a liquor store clerk and raped a customer and is walking away free.
That was because he did NOT have any papers
My Pop's advice: "Don't get into a pissing contest with a skunk."
uhh, long gpro?
the driver is a retarded dick
Current or former LEO?
Not everyone has come to love big brother
He was just a troublemaker. There are better things to get caught on tape! No one has ever taken to the supreme court that you are required to have a drivers license and insurance.
You are missing the point. The whole premise of the article is that this is a modern day example of "Papers Please!"
I will ask you a question. Do you think that they were stopping people walking by as well and demanding id?
Driver's licenses are a back door tax. Wake up.
I am awake. The service has to be paid for somehow. without it driving would be a lot more dangerous. I am glad that drunks, general idiots cannot get a license. Is the driver of that vehicle not allowed to talk, associate, own a weapon. In this context NO!!!!!!!! He is allowed to take the FUCKIN bus to his destination. He can be as drunk as he wants to on a bus. They are looking for drunks on this stop. They don't give a shit what is name is nor would they have written it down. You are not required to walk around with Id., but your better have it if you want to drive.
Why don't you reread the constitution. I am sure (as I read it last week) there is nothing about driving in there. HOWEVER, there is something about states making there own laws AS LONG AS they do not infringe on the rights given by the constitution. I am guessing that the officer knows the IL law one hell of a lot better than Mr. Facebook poster.
Government Onstar in all cars. COPs should be able paint your car with a laser and be able to listen in.
Watch a few of these and you'll know why the driver acted as he did. Good to exercise your rights before they take another slice of your freedoms. Yes, he was not perfect. I'd rather have more of these guys to curtail the encroachment of the police society.
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/
http://www.policemisconduct.net/
I don't see where this driver did anything wrong. Care to enlighten us as to why you say, "Yes, he was not perfect." How could he have been any calmer, more cooperative (yes, should have locked his doors). Not arguing, just asking.
Typical roid raging lunatic US militarized cop.
I'm just waiting for this to turn into some "sheepdog" on "sheepdog" action:
Stewart Rhodes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-WMHV9A80g
I hope that event goes to youtube.
when you put that against a roid-raging "I know my rights so fuck you even though you're just checking for drunk drivers who might kill me" lunatic with a camera, shit happens.
What? What?
I will take my chances with DRUNKS AND TERRORISTS any day versus a militarized police state!
What the hell is wrong with you?
I want my FREEDOM. Nothing else mother fucker!
Stop trying to hold my hand! I neither WANT nor NEED your help.
Fuckin A ARBY63, we are going to get along. Leave me alone, no crime no stop.
Somebody forgot to tell frankie that the DUI industry isn't about safety, it's about revenue. Lick the asshole of the peacekeepers and they probably won't beat the shit out of you or kill you, but then again, maybe not.
May your chains rest lightly on your shoulders.
The police have no legal duty to protect you from non-state actors. Why should you depend on them?
wow I got an upvote. Somebody likes me! Somebody really really likes me! (and no, it wasn't me)
Every encounter with the police is a possibility that you might lose autonomy to the State. Scary stuff.
Encountering a cop, is like encountering a serial murderer. They are the same thing. Every encounter with a cop is your life in deadly peril.
ebworthen:Thanks h_h, good one.
If I don't buy corporate insurance they'll send the statist police.
Obey the Kleptoligarchy or you will be bullied.
Depends on where you live. NH does not require one to purchase auto insurance.
Great informative article.
Based on a CCW where the guy had his gun out in public and a citizen called the cops and this guy would not even give his name to the police I asked my loccal police if I had to give my name. There were four cops standing around watching stuff, and of course one of them immediately says, "Why wouldn't you give us your name?".
I got stopped yesterday for driving agressively. (I was) The MC cop was professional friendly and did not even ask to see my "papers." He pretty much told me to take it down a notch and let me go. You really can't stereotype. BTW I took it down 2 notches.
You were committing a crime. The cop stopped you with justification. Completely different matter as I'm sure you agree.
I can no longer watch these Police State Thugs in action, it angers me too much and ruins my day. But I'll take it that this was bad. I am so sick of hihgly paid cops now believing and acting as a super elite enforcer of State Power, and totally separate and elite from the general population who pays their wages. They should serve and answer to the people, yet that have become a wholly self absorbed group living outside normal society and thinking themselve above normal people. They speak, act and socialize as if they were a State Elite, too good for normal society. Fuck! Most a Junior College Graduates, many small town cops are not even that, Big City Cops may have a four year law enforement degree. Big deal.
Fuck I hate these fuckers. They are out of control, and our politicians and corporate leaders encourage this police state action.
The old school cops did police work that evolved around crime, not profiling and doing random ck point slop. Ck points are set up if bad persons are reported in area of concern or fleeing felons etc. safety Ck, please.
Ols choll cops definiteloy profiled.... and it worked.
In Aurora, Colorado, if bad persons are reported in an area, they arrest everyone:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/06/police-stop-handcuff-every...
Old story, but all this police crap is getting really old ...
"Fuck I hate these fuckers. They are out of control, and our politicians and corporate leaders encourage this police state action."
Protection bought and paid for by the taxpayers. Otherwise, we'd see politicians' heads on pikes one of these days....