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Contained? Dallas Hospital Discharged Sick Ebola Patient 2 Days Before Isolation
While yesterday's CDC press conference was factual, it was clearly very much designed to avoid panic as time and again the US public was reassured that Ebola in America was 'contained', 'hard to contract', and would 'stop here'. However, as Bloomberg reports, the man with Ebola in Dallas was initially sent home from the hospital with antibiotics after seeking treatment for an unknown illness, officials said. We know CDC has stated the need for the US to be prepared but the fact that after the patient sought medical care on Sept. 26 and was sent home with antibiotics, he returned in an ambulance to Texas Health Presbyterian two days later and was admitted, suggests US healthcare workers are not prepared for the possibilities that Ebola is here in America (as this is the 13th possible case in the US).
A man with Ebola in Dallas was initially sent home from the hospital with antibiotics after seeking treatment for an unknown illness, officials said.
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The man is being kept in isolation in an intensive care unit. He had no symptoms when he left Liberia and began to show signs of the disease on Sept. 24, the CDC said. He sought care on Sept. 26, was hospitalized two days later at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital and is critically ill, said CDC Director Thomas Frieden.
Do not worry though...
“There is no doubt in my mind that we will stop it here,” Frieden said at a press conference in Atlanta.
The man was traveling to the U.S. to visit family and was staying with them. He was exposed to only a “handful” of people during the time when he had symptoms, including family members and possibly some community members, according to Frieden, who said there was little risk to anyone on his flight.
“Ebola doesn’t spread before someone gets sick, and he didn’t get sick until four days until after he got off the airplane,” Frieden said. “So we don’t believe there was any risk to anyone on the flight at that time.”
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“It’s not a potential of Ebola spreading widely in the U.S.,” Frieden said on a July 31 conference call with reporters. “That is not in the cards.”
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“There shouldn’t be any new infections from this point on,” Osterholm said. “We are going to shut this down.”
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Another suspected Ebola case is being evaluated at a National Institutes of Health facility, U.S. officials said, the 13th such possible infection in the U.S. All others have tested negative.
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Uh-oh. The sheeple are starting pay attention to ebola. TIME TO GET TO WORK MR. ISIS.
ISIS is not a real threat, it's been manufactured and has gotten slightly rowdy since. If the Iraqi and Assad govts weren't constantly being sabotaged by us, the Islamic State would've been put to rest long ago. Ebola is a potential threat.
We have no idea who he came in contact with before he was readmitted. Contained my ass...
Mission creep
Swine Flu and Federal Reserve Act went hand-in-hand. Only fitting, or well planned, that this shows just as the Credit Cycle comes to an end.
The DNC thinks ahead. More dead means more voters.
The ineptitude of everything in this country now is staggering.
It's hard to stick to the script....but so far they've pulled it off.
First rule of communism: You have no rights, we'll decide everything.
Frieden as the stupidest head of the CDC apparently doesn't understand that he is supposed to STOP diseases spreading not "manage" them. Oh wait, he's never said to the NEW 50,000 new Aids cases each year that gay men don't have a right to keep "procreating" new Aids patients (Plus another 6000 to 8000 mostly black women who are infected from bisexual black gay men). Or there are the lepers they are letting into the US (all third worlders because, after all, America can't expect itself to stay free of leprosy; and then they blame it on people touching armadillos in Texas).
Frieden, one has to wonder, just can't wait to get all that money that will now have to come to treat and control ebola. Or maybe it's just that this is part of Oboma's plan to turn America, once and for all, into a complete cesspool that looks just like Africa.
The first rule of medicine is not "first do no harm;" the first rule of medicine is Don't Ever Think You Are Smarter Than Nature! Frieden is just like Julia Pierson: stupid stupid stupid. This is the essence of liberalism: promote based on politics not on smarts.
Oh look, another Jew at the head of a government department! Especially one as critical as the CDC to carry forward Agenda 21.
._. <----my shock face
Obola's plan to turn America...
Fixed it for you...
Name of the guy please. Mohamed maybe? Spreading disease across Texas.
What rocket doctor goes to Africa during an epidemic?
What group of idiots allow people to travel from that area?
What is not being said, or the information that is missing is much more interesting.
(Posted from AFG, an ebola free zone)
Better than strapping some bombs around your waist. Just give the ebola virus to some horny (as in 72 virgins horny) jihadis and walk them across our southern border.
“Ebola doesn’t spread before someone gets sick, and he didn’t get sick until four days until after he got off the airplane,” Frieden said. “So we don’t believe there was any risk to anyone on the flight at that time.”
How does Frieden know that he was only symptomatic 4 days after he got off the plane? I am assuming because the patient told him this. OF COURSE A SCARED EBOLA PATIENT WILL ONLY TELL THE TRUTH! How do they know this???
"People lie. Run tests." - Dr. House
"Test results can be wrong. Test again." - Dr. House
Things I've learned from Dr. House.
As long as the border an air travel with infected countries are open it is not contained.
Dup
Long story short. Governments have been spoon feeding the public to make sure there is no panic, but all you have to do is look at the escalation of language, terms and predictions to see where they are headed.
"Governments have been spoon feeding the public to make sure there is no panic, "
Especially before the November election. Obama and his party want to win no matter what the cost is.
Can't have elections if everyone has to stay home....
I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth.
This will be contained, our atmosphere is really only good to what, 90 miles? And no, I'm not really seeing this as a global killer thing, just not every Tuesday I get to quote Revelations. Fun!
The biblical New Testament (King James Version), are the most interesting books you can read right now. They are alive and extremely accurate of what is occurring in our time right now.
Is today not Wednesday?
How many other people are infected now? We won't know for a while.
Ebola will spread exponentially in the US and the media along with the government will try and hide it before the November election.
Who will be left to elect?
Hmmm, perhaps not a bad thing after all.
It doesn't have time to get going before the election. The doubling period is 20 days.
It has nothing to do with Obama or the democrats or the elections. Only a truly asleep sheeple can take a viral outbreak from another continent and pin it on upcoming elections. If it really was, then give up, because Obama and the democrats are the smartest evilist fuckers out there and you don't stand a chance.
I do agree with you, but also understand that the elections are rigged. Obama and the repubs are the same face, just different sides. That being said, there is a huge wave of anti-establish political descent out there. To unseat the status quo could be a bit unsettling for the current seated members, even if the elections could be rigged accordingly. The sheeples sentiment may cause upheaval when the establishment wants conformity from a sick populace.
I know it's going off topic, but there is not really a wave of anti-establish political dissent out there. I don't like Obama, so I am not defending him, but his approval rating is sitting at what? 47% From Rasmussen poll OCT 1st.
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 47% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of President Obama's job performance. Fifty-two percent (52%) disapprove
That looks like the same ol same ol split of blue and red.
Elections are the last thing ebola is about. In fact I fully expect BOTH sides to try and use it to their advantage, but there will be a vote. There will be no marsha law. It's always Marsha marsha marsha!
<<In fact I fully expect BOTH sides to try and use it to their advantage, but there will be a vote.>>
They have to talk about something during the election.
This may have purposely been brought out "before the November Elections" . That has been my analysis of the situation since July when the Ebola news started. Remember, we are being led by extreme evil in this current stage of world history.
By November, Elections may be canceled due to "outbreak. Just in time for Martial law.
Things are moving fast now.
I hope and pray my gut feeling is not correct, and it probably isn't. But, some time soon, we are going to feel the fist in the face, so to speak.
The media and government will continue to hide it well after the November election. The government, regardless of who is in charge, will continue to downplay it until either it is contained and all the people who said it was nothing will say ' I told you so' or it's a full blown pandemic that even the blindest of sheep can't ignore.
This has nothing to do with the election.
Don't know about that as this administration knowingly did not seal the border an actively pushed illegals throughout the country. Not limiting it to ebola as suspicions about the latest flu that has mainly targeted children has now been confirmed in 47 states. The ebola case is the icing to the cake.
can't argue with people like you. Maybe when elections do happen and the republitards actually GAIN on the demotards, you will wake up a little bit. After that maybe you will admit that Ebola has nothing to do with Obama or elections and open your eyes a bit more.
Cheap flights to Liberia starting at $232. Go to tripadvisor.com.
Get Malaysian Air to fly them out to the US. Guaranteed not to arrive.
That would put a damper on fights from dirty, smelly Lagos. That would force them to land at Heathrow first, and let Her Majesty's Fuckheads deal with them.
How many hours is the flight from Liberia to the US? Wanna bet he had to discharge some bodily fluids (or solids) during the flight in one or more of those tiny bathrooms? Splish, splash, touch the surfaces and faucet handles, etc, etc
I don't even believe he came on a plane. The government can't tell the truth where Obozo or the economy is involved. It is just as likely he walked from Mexico.
Exactly right as you would think they would have advised during the news conference what flight it is if the cdc was actually concerned about the welfare of the people.
exactly wrong, as they are going to cover up everything as much as possibe.
Is it mandatory for everyone to always come up with more ridiculous scenarios.
Again, the CDC and governmet is concerned about the whole population so will readily sacrifice a few people in order to keep the rest calm. A 1000 people panicking will cause far more damage.
They gave him antibiotics to fight a virus? Medicine fail. This is actually worse than doing nothing because it forces bacteria to evolve and become resistant to antibiotics. You'll always have some bad bacteria in you, and now that bacteria is slightly stronger than before. Also, good bacteria are a significant part of your body, and antibiotics are a scorched earth approach to medicine. They do severe damage to your body because they don't differentiate between good bacteria and bad bacteria.
How is what you're saying applicable to a virus where antibiotics don't do anything? How is ebola going to mutate because of them? It's an RNA based disease, it will mutate because of opportunities via a host's DNA if it's going to mutate.
So down voter, please explain why it's a bad comment. Or are you just being a cunt?
He was talking about how the antibiotics wipe out all bacteria (including the good bacteria). And since Ebola is a virus, antibiotics don't affect Ebola: so it's a fail for the doctor who prescribed it.
The part about evolving was talking about how bad bacteria that isn't killed off by antibiotics evolve and become MSRA or other crappy stuff that is immune to pills but still mess people up.
I don't believe he was saying that ebola would evolve due to antibiotics.
Fair enough, but the topic he was quoting under was ebola and antibiotics. I see what he was getting at now.
Thanks for the reply. :thumbs up:
There could actually be decreased chance of survival if you are taking antibiotics early on. The immune system is very complicated and the flora of the gut provide alot of resources for the body to fight off infections viral and bacterial. When the natural flora is gone its like the body loses a layer of defense against forign invaders.
Agreed but I'm not sure your gut bacteria is going to help as you're shitting the entire contents out as well as a quart of blood. :O
Discharging someone is kind of the same thing as isolation. So no biggie ;)
"Let's teach that Perry a lesson for putting National Guard troops on the border. Send him an Ebola patient."
And since I haven't seen it noted yet, "BULLISH!!"
Lest we forget:
Winning!
Summarizing a couple of points from the other thread:
There's actually a good chance this guy wasn't even patient zero. In which case, we should be looking for tertiary cases as soon as now.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/figures%5Csu6303a1appendixf4.gif
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/su6303a1.htm?s_cid=su6303a1_x
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3766904/
hat tip: TruthInSunshine, PotR blog
In absence of diagnostic testing, an early case can easily be misdiagnosed as viral sore throat ( or strep throat, hence the antibiotics), or countless other, exceedingly more common, viral infections.
In light of these facts, the identity/nationality of the individual, his itinerary, and those he was staying with, as well as any other information should be released to the public. Crowd source the contact tracing, post haste.
And bar non-essential travel from the affected region, duh.
Stay Calm and BTFD
Needn't be concerned about anything else.
I would be pretty nervous if I was a hospital worker who treated him on the 26th or one of the ambulance drivers!
The two ambulance workers from the Dallas Fire Rescue are now in 21 day quarantine. The ambulance was used for 2 days following taking this individual to the hospital before it was pulled from service.
"It's contained...."
Where have ai Heard that before?
Trying to find a flight from Roberts Intl to Dallas on Kayak and the most common routes seem to be through Brussels and Newark/OHare/Dulles/Philidelphia so at least its not potentially in any important cities.
Why would anyone panic? The good old government has got a handle on this like they have on everything. There are numerous examples like their ability to purchase computers with working hard drives, their protection of the white house, their abilty to stop terrorists from bombing Boston (after being warned by a foreign country about the bombers), their ability to find said bombers hiding in a boat in a yard just yards from the last known location, their ability to track down this guy in Pennsylvania, (I only stopped the list because my fingers cramped up)
And don't forget the Iraquis warning us about subway bombings; My Theory on that was they KNEW about this and weren't telling us so the Iraquis dealt the cards so the public would know. Reminds me of the Boston bombings where there were all those security guys and it's said they KNEW there were threats but didn't bother to tell the public...JUST LIKE WITH EBOLA>>>You do not have the right to keep yourself safe because they won't let you.
And by the way does anyone else think that Julia Pierson is so fugly and looks so incompetent that how could anyone put her in that position (Secret Service Director)? If you are the director of such an important part of the government, should you vaguely look like you could do a few push-ups? And shouldn't they put some big strong men at the doors of the white house instead of a woman who can be run down? When does this madness stop?
Had a guy letting his dog poop in my yard; called the police cause he was a jerk when I told him to pick it up. Police came...was some minature woman. yeah right. PLEASE there are times when might makes right. Give me big strong men in the police department and secret service...duh.
TSA pat downs at airports spreading the Ebola like plague rats even if it is not airborne--WHICH IT IS.
That's a very good point. They don't change them gloves after they pop Unfufu the shocker.
Might be time to rewatch History Channel's After Armageddon:
Published on May 12, 2013
"The worst-case scenario dramatization slash documentary After Armageddon aired January 5, 2010 on the History Channel as part of Armageddon Week. After Armageddon presented a picture of the breakdown of society after a worldwide pandemic flu.
Expert commentators proposed that pandemic illness would lead to power grid failures due to lack of manpower, the failure of the world wide web and eventually the end of civilized society. After Armageddon supposed that when workers become sick and/or die from disease, their jobs are unfilled which leads to services such as garbage pick up, electricity, water, food deliveries and other basic utilities ending."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-dzfnXVM1w
Of course, the last thing The History Channel wants the general public to think is that TPTB will make deliberate decisions to cut off power in select districts and watch Hunger Games from helicopters.
"contained"...just like subprime? good stuff down the pike kids...good stuff
Beheadings and Ebola in America. Party like it's 1349!
How's that hopey-changey guy working out???
Word on the street is there's a second case in Dallas.
Furthermore, how do they know that he was the only one on the plane with Ebola? It's quite possible that he caught the Ebola virus ON THE PLANE from another passenger.
M favorite part of the CDC info is the bit about the number of cases. They say a few thousand in Liberia, but then in parentheses they put a number closer to 25k after correcting for under reporting.
They already put the cases in Africa above 1.4million by January.
Just like earnings reports, the truth is in there but it is covered up by the adjusted number that tells people what they want to hear.
International air travel must be shut down now. Even domestic air travel. Sure it will cost the economy billions, but millions of people dying will cost more. Shut it all down and wait a month.
Ebola only stops when everyone that can be infected is dead. With the current inaction by our wonder government, the entire country is already infected. People just don't know it yet.
You can't shut down the airlines without likely crashing the whole system. Look what 911 did and that was a week. By shutting down the Airlines, you would basically be telling people to panic and it would likely spread to restaurants, movies, sports, malls, everything. The economic consequences would be massive and debilitating.
Better to treat Ebola as a lion/pride and the sheeple as antelope. Best to let a few get taken down than scare the whole herd over a cliff.
It really is a black and white scenario. Either you shut it down and crash the system in a controlled manner, or you admit that there will be no controlling the disease and let people fend for themselves.
I didn't realize you were already in lock down ( or up ). Carry on.
"Wash your hands & wait for the vaccine?!?!"
With such an INCREDIBLY infantile strategy, all we need to do is get Africa to USE SOAP?!?!?
Are there ADULTs ANYWHERE to be found in this administration?!?!
www.Locutions.org
Unless you are already making your own, buy more soap!
Well, truth, this strategy is brought to you by the same people who recommended hiding under a desk and clutching a pair of scissors to effectively confront an intrusive, armed mass murderer.
More about that flight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW_jvTSNvxo
Scary. Thanks for the link. Living in South Texas I find this disturbing. Mix it with our porous border and "I see... a bad moon a risin'... I see... trouble on the way"...
I'm guessing in the ER, the questionaire doesn't include have you been to Africa lately?
Are you calling me a reneger?
This whole affair is a pre-quel to the "Escape From..." series. Except that there is no hero only f/ups, snafus and fubars.
Nothing to see here, move on.
So this dude was wandering around Dallas, sick and infectious with Ebola, going in and out of hospitals, riding in ambulances, and exposing how many people?
It's already over. Once the first case hits, the next 20 million are only a few weeks away. The USA is the perfect country for a pandemic because of our useless government and garbage medical system. People will go to a minute clinic with flu like symptoms, but it will be Ebola. Of course the nurse practitioner will just write it off as flu and send them home. She will have infected herself and the entire CVS will be contaminated with the disease.
People with Ebola will board subways, kids with Ebola will infect every other kid at school in turn infecting thier families. Just a single airplane with one active Ebola infection will spread the virus to a few hundred thousand people. Airplanes aren't cleaned, just have the garbage picked. If this Dallas guy was symptomatic on the plane, the potential cases has already broken past any point of containment. The government knows that.
Although the WHO and CDC all maintain the bullshit claim that people are not infectious until they show symptoms, I don't believe it. The period right before symptoms appear is the most dangerous. Who can make the claim that in the few hours or day before the symptoms appear the virus can not be transmitted? Sorry but when a cold virus enters a household, everyone is infected before the first person starts coughing.
First responders will not be wearing full biohazard gear when the first few hundred Ebola cases start showing up. Effectively bringing the virus into direct contact with health workers who will spread it like wildfire.
It will not be contained because it was not meant to be contained. This was engineered. The Strain, The Last Ship, The Walking Dead, Tiny House Nation, The Dome. Not to mention all of the apocalyptic documentaries recently You think all the shows are just a coincidence. Tiny House Nation is propaganda to get people used to the idea that a FEMA shelter is not only enough space, but actually hip and trendsetting. We have been socially conditioned for a reason.
re: ADR. UP YOUR MEDS. really, pop an extra pill.
Downvoting me? Really? The ebola virus has been spreading for MONTHS and there are only thousands of cases. Don't you think the statement below is a little over the top? Just a little mind you.
Once the first case hits, the next 20 million are only a few weeks away.
I'm on a business trip and flying home to DFW on Friday. I will keep an eye of any sickly looking hacking fucks either on the plane or in the terminals. Are they supposed to be treated like zombies and shot on sight is there some other protocol I need to follow? Does the CDC have a link for neutralizing the threat and culling of the herd protocols for us common folk.
Muslim countries with a deadly virus and totally incompetent governments on all ends of the problem. What me worry?
This is moving pretty slowly for what I would expect a global contagion to look like. So, there are one or two possible cases in the US and then mostly in Africa with the globalized economy shuttling tens of millions of people around the globe every day? Why aren't we hearing about cases in France, Egypt, Chile, Indonesia, etc?
With the swine flu scare, the CDC came out afterwards admitting that it outright lied about the number of actual cases - most of them were just "flu-like" symptoms.
This is awfully convenient timing as we start seeing shortages of physical metals while Asian countries move towards a gold standard and fiat currencies implode. This is just an excuse to terrify people round them up when the SHTF, for "your own good" of course.
+10
No need to go to medical school, if you can say "take 2 aspirin" or I'm prescribing some antibiotics" - you too, can be a doctor... Just some gallows humor, I have a healthy respect for competent doctors...
If you want to live don't go to see a doctor. But I think I'll get my teeth taken care of before the attack of the globalists/Washington D.C. heats up.
So... IS sends 100 suicide commandos - who are infected but not infectious yet - to the US, and has them cough on as many people (and surfaces) as possible when they start to become infectious.. each commando could do this for up to four days, on an NYC subway for instance, and infect many 100's of people this way, which would mean 100 x 100's = 10.000+ but possibly 100.000+.
Far fetched? Maybe. In any case, for the CDC to say that "there will be no more infections" is more rediculous than the above scenario.
Given the nature of for profit hopitals does this mean the following:
Admission: $500/day (first 100 cases), $1000/day (rest)
TV: $100/day
Wi-fi: $100/day
Isolation: $5000/day
Isolation with treatment: N/A (If you need to ask you aren't elite)
Thank god for unrestrained supply and demand
"Wash your hands & wait for the vaccine?!?!"
With such an INCREDIBLY infantile strategy, all we need to do is get Africa to USE SOAP?!?!?
Are there ADULTs ANYWHERE to be found in this administration?!?!
www.Locutions.org
I would imagine all the health care personel on his initial hospital visit have to be quarentined. Things just got worse.
http://thebookgallery2014.blogspot.com/2014/08/beyond-ebola-preparation....
Yet another example how the cockroach-in-chief & his cockroach supporters are destroying America by allowing people from Africa into the USA.
Suppose that the ebola epidemic was in a region/country called "Tea Party country/region", and the inhabitants were white - would cockroach-in-chief & his cockroach supporters allow these potentially ebola-infected white anti-socialists into the USA ?
You don't know where I've been Lou!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XGAxc4EGi4
Actually the biggest inncubators will come from the health and fitness crowd when they go to the gym and sweat on everything, everywhere, and touch everything and anything with their and everyone else's sweat and snot just to go to the health food store to touch all the fresh organic vegetables that intermintently spray water on them to keep them fresh just to taint the remaining veggies for everyone else to take home and eat.
Healthy Living.
This is being handled as a political event, something to be contained. Hair should be on fire and smart people should be in panic mode. Wise men should be hiding in caves but instead we are being told all is well.
This mistake of confusing a natural event with something like a politician getting caught in bathroom activities is going to prove fatal, literally fatal...you know...the kind of fatal that leaves you in a coffin not the kind that forces you to hire a better PR firm.
We are in deep trouble not because we can't handle a virus outbreak (we can!) but because our leaders refuse to address the issue forcefully because they are fearful it will reflect poorly on them.
....prepare to die....
I had to laugh at the screening protocol I heard on the radio today...if one did not want to be quarantined for 3 weeks all one has to do is lie and not have a fever.....NOT EFFECTIVE people!!!
THE PROGRESSIVE DUMBDOWN OF EVERYTHING
INCLUDES THE C-D-C
THE PROGRESSIVE DUMBDOWN OF EVERYTHING
INCLUDES THE C-D-C
dOUBLE-TAP
Just to get yourself into the right frame of mind, watch the old TV series titled "Jeremiah", at least from the beginning through the second episode of the second season.