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Ebola In America: The Confirmed Case In Dallas, Texas Could Change Everything
Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,
The day that many of us hoped would never arrive is here. Ebola has come to America. Air travel between the United States and the countries of Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone should have been totally shut down except for absolutely essential personnel but it wasn't. And now our nation may end up paying a great price as a result. On Tuesday, the CDC announced that there is a confirmed case of Ebola in Dallas, Texas. We know that this individual is a male and that he traveled by air from Liberia to Texas on September 19th. At that time, he was not exhibiting any symptoms. It is being reported that he started developing symptoms on September 24th and that he sought out treatment two days later. Incredibly, he was turned away and sent home. Then on September 28th he went to a hospital again and this time he was admitted for treatment. That means that he could have potentially been spreading Ebola to others for at least four full days before finally getting treated at a hospital. Now he is in intensive care at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas. The CDC says that "there is no doubt that we will stop it here" and is promising that "it will not spread widely in this country". The CDC better be right on both counts.
At this point, the CDC is admitting that it is not known if others have been infected by this individual. The CDC also says that it is tracking down everyone that he has been in contact with. But over four days in a major U.S. city, you can be "in contact" with a whole lot of people. And what about all of the people that those people were in contact with?
If I was in charge of this crisis, I would admit that we don't know the full scope of the problem yet but that we are dealing with it the best that we can.
Instead, the director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is taking an entirely different approach. Dr. Thomas Frieden insists that we have absolutely nothing to worry about...
"I have no doubt that we will control this case of Ebola, so that it does not spread widely in this country. It is certainly possible that someone who has had contact with this patient could develop Ebola. But there is no doubt in my mind that we will stop it here."
Frieden better be right about that.
Other "experts" are being even more dogmatic...
"There is no cause for concern," says Peter Hotez, dean of the National School of Tropical Medicine and professor at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston. "The Ebola virus is not easily transmitted from person to person, and we have an outstanding infrastructure in place both to contain the virus and trace contacts. There will not be an Ebola epidemic in the United States."
I have no idea how they can say these things when the outbreak over in Africa is completely and totally out of control. Despite extreme precautions, hundreds of health workers have gotten the virus, and so far global health officials have not even been able to slow down the exponential growth of the Ebola pandemic in West Africa.
And our health officials should not be so dogmatic about how this virus spreads either.
In a previous article, I discussed a study that was conducted back in 2012 that demonstrated that Ebola could be transmitted through the air between pigs and monkeys that did not have physical contact with one another...
When news broke that the Ebola virus had resurfaced in Uganda, investigators in Canada were making headlines of their own with research indicating the deadly virus may spread between species, through the air.
The team, comprised of researchers from the National Centre for Foreign Animal Disease, the University of Manitoba, and the Public Health Agency of Canada, observed transmission of Ebola from pigs to monkeys. They first inoculated a number of piglets with the Zaire strain of the Ebola virus. Ebola-Zaire is the deadliest strain, with mortality rates up to 90 percent. The piglets were then placed in a room with four cynomolgus macaques, a species of monkey commonly used in laboratories. The animals were separated by wire cages to prevent direct contact between the species.
Within a few days, the inoculated piglets showed clinical signs of infection indicative of Ebola infection. In pigs, Ebola generally causes respiratory illness and increased temperature. Nine days after infection, all piglets appeared to have recovered from the disease.
Within eight days of exposure, two of the four monkeys showed signs of Ebola infection. Four days later, the remaining two monkeys were sick too. It is possible that the first two monkeys infected the other two, but transmission between non-human primates has never before been observed in a lab setting.
There is much that we don't understand about this disease.
I can understand the need to keep the public calm, but why don't these officials just tell us the truth?
At the same time that they are telling us that there is no chance that there will be an Ebola epidemic in the United States, they are also sending out guidelines to funeral homes on how to deal with dead Ebola victims...
CBS46 News has confirmed the Centers for Disease Control has issued guidelines to U.S. funeral homes on how to handle the remains of Ebola patients. If the outbreak of the potentially deadly virus is in West Africa, why are funeral homes in America being given guidelines?
The three-page list of recommendations include instructing funeral workers to wear protective equipment when dealing with the remains since Ebola can be transmitted in postmortem care. It also instructs to avoid autopsies and embalming.
Why are they doing this if there is "no chance" that the disease will spread widely?
Hopefully they isolated this Ebola patient in Dallas in time.
Hopefully he did not infect anyone else.
But we need to be honest about the situation that we are potentially facing. So far, there have been more than 6,000 cases of Ebola in Africa and more than 3,000 of those have died. Unfortunately, even WHO officials admit that those official numbers "great underestimate" the scope of this outbreak. The number of official cases has been doubling approximately every three weeks, and the CDC says that under a "worst case scenario" we could be looking at 1.4 million cases by the end of January 2015.
Right now all of the treatment facilities in Liberia and Sierra Leone are completely full and more than 80 percent of Ebola patients have been turned away and sent home without being treated. It is an absolute nightmare, and now it has come to America.
And as the virus continues to spread, it is inevitable that more carriers of the disease will get on airplanes headed for America.
Unfortunately for us, according to a recent Defense One article the screening done at airports actually does very little to stop the spread of Ebola...
The bad news is that thermal screenings of the international flying population at airports are not likely to yield much by way of improved safety.
Here’s why: fever can be a sign of a lot of different illnesses, not just Ebola. And thermal scanning proved to be a poor method of catching bird flu carriers in 2009 as well. So presenting with an elevated temperature at an airport checkpoint does not indicate clearly enough that the fevered person is carrying the deadly virus. More importantly, the incubation period for Ebola is two days. As many as 20 days can pass before symptoms show up. That means that an individual could be carrying the virus for two weeks or longer and not even know it, much less have it show up via thermal scan. So what good are these scanners?
When I first started writing about Ebola, a few people accused me of "spreading fear".
Well, now that Ebola has arrived in the United States, perhaps they will take a second look at some of my recent articles...
-"The Pure Hell At The Heart Of The Ebola Pandemic In Africa Could Soon Be Coming To America"
-"Computer Models Tell Us That This Ebola Pandemic Could Soon Kill Millions"
-"16 Apocalyptic Quotes From Global Health Officials About This Horrific Ebola Epidemic"
-"Ebola Among Health Workers: More Than 240 Sick, More Than 120 Dead"
-"It Is Becoming Clear – We Are NOT Prepared For An Ebola Pandemic"
Let us pray that this is just one isolated case and that there will not be a major outbreak in this nation.
Because if cases do start popping up around the country, fear will spread like wildfire and we could potentially be facing the greatest health crisis that any of us have ever seen.
One of the individuals that successfully survived this disease was Dr. Kent Brantly. I think that the following quote from him really does a great job of summarizing what we are potentially facing...
"Many have used the analogy of a fire burning out of control to describe this unprecedented Ebola outbreak," Brantly said. "Indeed it is a fire—it is a fire straight from the pit of hell. We cannot fool ourselves into thinking that the vast moat of the Atlantic Ocean will protect us from the flames of this fire. Instead, we must mobilize the resources ... to keep entire nations from being reduced to ashes."
A virus like this could change everything if it starts circulating widely.
Like I have said so many times before, let us hope for the best, but let us also prepare for the worst.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNIPqafd4As
Dallas Ebola patient vomited outside apartment on way to hospital http://reut.rs/1nNUe3L
Thats not promising now is it?
Thx for the link. Too bad my gov't refused to release the information during the presser yesterday.
Damn.....DAMN THOSE SONS OF BITCHES !!
Every sneeze, cough, shit and spew from this guy was aerosoled. Yeah...technically Ebola isn't airborne itself. But the particles of liquid containing Ebola coming out of his mouth and ass ARE !!
CDC is now saying that casual contact is a 3ft radius. WAIT.....WHAT ? An average sneeze travels at 50 mph and can eject 100,000 particles up to 40 feet. And that's in open air. WHAT DID HE DO ON THE VARIOUS AIRPLANES HE TOOK TO GET OVER HERE ???
damn
I wonder......now its an issue of waste management. Trash, clothes, utensils, oh yeah, wherever he was staying basically. Wonder how that pile of vomit was cleaned up? Some in the toilet, some in the rubbish bin, and some scrubbed into the carpet. People stepped in the wet carpet, tracked virus into their homes and removed their shoes with their hands. Further spreading the virus. This should be interesting, very interesting. Sure would like to know what that apartment looked like. Wonder if its under quarantine yet?
"Suddenly, a tactical nuke exploded in the immediate area."
wow, when you put that way. Don't expect Dckhead Frieden of the CDC to hire you as their Public Affairs Officer.
If you mean by Public Affairs Officer.....Propaganda Officer.....then I wouldn't want the job in the first place.
I know, I know, I was just being flip.
LOL....I know you were. But this shit is so serious....sometimes my sarc face and my serious face look the same. My bad.
There is nothing going on in Dallas that 150,000 gallons of bleach can't fix.
Or a can of gasoline.
Everyone likes a warm bonfire.
Is it just me, or is all of this reading like a script for a badly written horror movie?
Here you go......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgZ5goJibn0
And here's the solution....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO2-YxWkRxk
I was expecting a picture of the puke.
Well.....I wouldn't want to dissapoint Gandalf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d7Ave-80Jo
lol. Some friends and I used to joke about the intensity of projectile vomit. That stuff is gnarly. BAM!
This one time an old roommate was sitting in the back seat while I was driving. He says "pull over! now!" Luckily it was a regular street and not the highway. Homeboy delivers a projectile blast to the gutter. It was a sight.
Chemo 16 years ago did the trick for me. Up until then I had only puked twice in my life.....and not projectile.
Yep. 'Cept, I was driving. I think it was the shrimp.
I got a concussion once and painted the ceiling from the bottom of the bathtub. Woke up the next day, and thought it was all a dream. When you wake up and people are looking down at you, not a good sign.
Seriously, why wasn't air travel from the infected regions halted? If me and mine are going to pay billions in taxes for a CDC I'd rather it not be totally incompetent, or perhaps malevolent.
Farrakhan...
"Another method is disease infection through bio-weapons such as Ebola and AIDS, which are race targeting weapons. There is a weapon that can be put in a room where there are Black and White people, and it will kill only the Black and spare the White, because it is a genotype weapon that is designed for your genes, for your race, for your kind."
What if one is half and half Louie?
OOPS! KNUKS beat me to it!
Don't regulate your borders! That's wwaaaayyyyyycissstt!
Die instead.
hmmm, okay call me desperate but i've been reading the comments sections of all these 'ebola arrives in the US' searching to hear from miffed microbiologist and cougar_w and another i read from yesterday's marathon post-along and DAYUM Tylers could y'all please just stop with the stickies RE anything ebola-related????
It makes it REAL HARD to follow those posts that might actually prove helpful.
And to have to peruse through EXPONENTIAL posts of sarcasm and sick humor is a serious waste of time.
Just say'in ...
EDIT: last comment i read from miffed ... she's REAL scared and this is not a good thing, coming from one who works in the field. Take care of you and yours, miffed. GODSPEED.
Miffed needs to put some distance on. This stupid shit is not worth getting wound up about. Focus on her work and her health and forget about "us". And for that matter, anyone paying much attention to the comments section is in for a bad ride, it's mostly hallucination I'm afraid. A couple people here get it (maybe I've managed to educate a little, if so then I'm glad) but the rest are -- well I don't know what to call it. Detached from reality, I guess.
But that's just how it is on the Internet. Nothing is real, nothing matters. I don't happen to agree with that; I don't screw around at any time in my life, and not here either. Maybe you noticed and that's why you look for me here. Well I'm not around much, taking my own advice and staying away. I've got some serious cogitating to do and I can't do that and fight with the stupidity here are the same time.
You guys need to clear your heads. You need to stop believing your own half-assed stories. Reality is not far away now, she's coming around the next corner and she's got an axe and a mean grin and she is absolutely going to eat you fuckers alive and she won't pay much attention to your bullshit belief systems while she's doing it, sirs.
No she will not.
Ok, that first suspected case of Ebola in Illinois has been confirmed to not be Ebola. ER said it was just my hemmeroid acting up. Whew. That was scary.
Hi Michael,
You make a good case, but it's interesting to compare what's going on in Africa to here in the US. Yes Ebola is dangerous, but why has Ebola spread so fast in those countries? And would it spread just as fast, or even take effect as much, as it has in Africa?
Many basic resources and daily habits exist in the US that do not in the African countries affected by Ebola. Basics like:
- washing your hands, and the ability to wash your hands.
- knowing when to go to hospital, and even having a hospital to go to.
- safer and less congested means of transportation,
- education about the virus and preventative steps.
It's not that I disagree with everything you're saying, but there's a reason viruses can spread so quickly in other, less developed, parts of the world, which I think you fail to acknowledge, or at least underestimate in your post.
Dude.
Nobody washes their hands. I wash mine before and after I touch my dick.
But seriously....none of the points you made are valid.
We do have the ability to wash hands but few do.
Hospitals are excellent places to get sick with a full spectrum of really nasty shit...right here in good ol' exceptional USA
Less congested means of transport? Lulz wot?
Ask the first 10 people ( from a reasonable distance) you see tomorrow "what is Ebola and how might you protect yourself from it"
The defense rests.
Edit:
I forgot the one thing we have a bumper crop of that west Africa doesn't.
Hosts. Tightly packed and super social. Cowboys Game plus two infected. Run the numbers.
Hosts. It's what viri crave!
From the CDC on influenza virus: http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/qa/disease.htm
"It is estimated that in the United States, each year on average 5% to 20% of the population gets the flu and more than 200,000 people are hospitalized from seasonal flu-related complications. Flu seasons are unpredictable and can be severe. Over a period of 30 years, between 1976 and 2006, estimates of flu-associated deaths in the United States range from a low of about 3,000 to a high of about 49,000 people."
And all that is for a relatively low-mortality rate virus. Spread easily in our ultra-modern society. Anyone who has elementary school-age kids knows how those little carriers touch everything and then put their hands in their mouth. They see kids in their child's class who came to school sick because their parents use school as a child-care center while they work.
That said, the mortality rate of Ebola should prevent it from being an End of Days scenario that wipes out 330,000,000 Americans. Still, imagine the economic impacts if we had "isolated" cases in 20-30 cities and upwards of ~10K deaths. How many people are going to send their kids to public schools, go shopping, hit the gym, twerk on Friday nights? What if this strain of Ebola has/does evolve with easier transmission methods (as in sneezing)? The discussion earlier about sanitation containment alone should raise concerns, not "all under control" bureaucratic promises.
The solution is simple: convince the President that Ebola is part of the Tea Party. Then all executive departments will go all-in to defeat it.
Hi Michael,
You make a good case, but it's interesting to compare what's going on in Africa to here in the US. Yes Ebola is dangerous, but why has Ebola spread so fast in those countries? And would it spread just as fast, or even take effect as much, as it has in Africa?
Many basic resources and daily habits exist in the US that do not in the African countries affected by Ebola. Basics like:
- washing your hands, and the ability to wash your hands.
- knowing when to go to hospital, and even having a hospital to go to.
- safer and less congested means of transportation,
- education about the virus and preventative steps.
It's not that I disagree with everything you're saying, but there's a reason viruses can spread so quickly in other, less developed, parts of the world, which I think you fail to acknowledge, or at least underestimate in your post.
safer and less congested means of transportation?
Not for those of us stuck in coach. Fuckin' United's practically stacking us like cordwood. And it's the (my) air travel that's got me worried.
Yeah, and don't ya just love it when someone plops down next to you with their Whopper Combo; all the dripping fixins getting on his big catcher's mit hands. He runs outta napkins and kinda does a final hand cleansing in a fluid subtle motion on the fold down tray, the seat and the fold down arm rest. Yummy.
Bring it the fuck on. Start in Washington DC first though.
Mmmm yeah, all those dirty Metro trains, buses, and commuter buses. Sure glad I ain't there no more.
"Awright all you ZH swinging dicks. Anybody gets it, head for DC and barf everywhere, preferably on an elected officical."
I'd say get your gold and silver coins now while you can still get deliveries.
The CDC's Dick Fuld moment...
+10,000
+10,000 more.
Nature makes a mockery of humanity, as it should. A lesson in the true meaning of power.
We'll give back the earth, though not in the same condition we found it.
I take some small comfort knowing that who (or what) comes after us will never know we were here.
Just remember FOLKS that you can only get ebola from contact with a victims bodily fluids. Media says as many as 18 may be infected. Hmmm, must be pissing on people. How else would
that many become potentially infected? I mean come on, our government wouldn't lie to us about how contagious it is would it? Move along, nothing here to see.
AAACHOO !!! <bless you>
COUGH...COUGH, cough..cough...cough......HACCKKKkkkkkkkk...spitooee.....
Oh shit....I think I'm going to puke.......BBBBBBRRRRaaaaaaCCKKKKK........uuuUUUUUURRRRGGHLLLGUGURRGLE.......
AAHhhhh damn.....I think I just shit my pants.......TTTHHRrrrrrripppp.....SPLATTTtttttt......
It's not the liquids you CAN see......it's the AEROSOLS you CAN'T see that will kill you.
LOL!
AVOID all body contact.
I am not sure it is airborne, but it is becoming obvious that simply touching another human can spread it.
Don't give the governments of the world to much credit they spent weeks and a fortune but could not even find a large missing Malaysian jet. Now Americans are trying to put Ebola into the dustbin as just another also ran or nuisance thing that when kept at a distance is of little interest. Unfortunately this may soon change as the virus is picking up "critical mass."
By critical mass I'm referring to the point where enough people are infected with the virus that it can sustain a chain reaction and expand out of control. The bad news is Ebola may have already reached critical mass and be impossible to contain. The implications of this are massive and it could change everything. More on why we should be very concerned in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2014/09/ebola-may-have-reached-critical-m...
Frieden has done something unforgivable. He has sacrificed his position as a physician for political expediency.
I don't know the guy but a proper way to handle this would have been to defer to an expert in virilogy and let them take lead. Instead, for reasons I can not understand he made an incredible statement that the disease would be controlled knowing that there was exposure in the community. Now, if there is any spread his reputation is shot. Who could trust him.
This was a big error on his part. What could be so important to team Obama that they would sacrifice the guy?
Why must it appear that the situation is controlled when the correct approach would perhaps be a little (appropriate) fear mongering? Is something else going on? dunno but Frieden is 'all in' for a ride that he never should have set foot on.
Panic is the real disease here. They have to lie now or all is lost.
Heck of a job Friedie.
the vaccines gotta a patent
just like the
ebola distemper.
so you have the cause and the cure.
whats your beef you whores
take the bill gates gmo shot
it nice
As an immediate first step we should deport or otherwise rid ourselves of the African in the White House!
Does that make you European?
Here is a rather alarming development:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/breaking-dallas-ebola-patient-vo...
BREAKING:
Dallas Ebola Patient VOMITED WILDLY Outside Apartment On Way to Hospital
Posted by Jim Hoft on Wednesday, October 1, 2014, 9:31 PM
excerpt:
Two days after he was sent home from a Dallas hospital, the man who is the first person to be diagnosed with Ebola in the United States was seen vomiting on the ground outside an apartment complex as he was bundled into an ambulance.
“His whole family was screaming. He got outside and he was throwing up all over the place,” resident Mesud Osmanovic, 21, said on Wednesday, describing the chaotic scene before the man was admitted to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital on Sunday where he is in serious condition.
Didn't Dallas have some wicked rain storms at that time? It's all washed away into the gutters by now. Ebola doesn't survive in rain water.
The official rain total for the Dallas-Ft. Worth area for the full month of September, 2014 was 0.06 inches:
http://www.srh.noaa.gov/fwd/?n=dmoprecip
I doubt it rained much (if any) on that day.
Shit....that means this guy puked 100 times more than a full month of rain.
at least he didn't puke inside the section 8 building
That we KNOW of.
Kinda like the Secret Service telling us the guy didn't make it inside.......then, yeah he JUST made in the front door......then, yeah he ran down the hall......then, yeah he ran down the hall, overpowered another Secret Service Agent, went to the kitchen, fixed a sandwich, went upstairs, took a shit and a shower and laid down in bed to binge watch "Orange Is The New Black" on Netflix......before being arrested.
This is what bleach and chlorine are for. The complex probably had pool chlorine. Chlorine will kill anything.
Why is this person in America? Oh open borders and hope and change. Thank a Democrat or liberal if you end up dead from ebola.
Well, Mesud Osmanovic, may your bout be swift and may you rest in peace.
Picked the wrong day to rubberneck, homeboy.
The people close to him when he was puking may not have fully realized how serious the exposure to him could be. Keep in mind that animals (e.g. dogs) reportedly can also contract and carry Ebola. Who knows if some animal was exposed to the vomit.
http://news.discovery.com/animals/ebolas-deadly-jump-from-animal-to-anim...
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/obama-defers-deportation-of-libe...
Surprised he didn't throw in a "buy gold" tag line at the end.
The Ebolite didn't have a direct flight from Liberia to DFW. I don't know how you stop traffic from there.
Let the country panic, I couldn't care less.
CDC is attempting to be politcally correct instead of protecting the country.
NASA has become politically correct.
The CDC has become politically correct.
"attempting to be politcally correct"
In what sense?
Approx. 3,300 dead during the past what 4 weeks plus, in one of the poorest, most inviting scenarios possible. The apocalypse quotient is still about a .5 out of 10. jmo
Your problem is that you (like most products of the American public education system) utterly fail to understand the terrifying implications of 3rd order functions.
Well thx for the denigrating conclusion, but I do like to perform my own research...of course dependent upon how interested I am regarding any particular topic. I stand by my earlier post (for the moment, and attempting to avoid catastrophizing to the nth degree) that absent exponential growth in infections running into the millions, and more importantly, infections outside of the continent most commonly afflicted with large epidemics (30 million w/ AIDs), I'm not particularly worried about a scenario threatening mankind. If that's ignorant on my part, well ok. Appreciate your response none the less.
Easy there.
You fleeting interest in the topic happens to be the big cat's profession, if I recall.
Pay attention and be respectful and you may learn something that didn't make it to the wiki page.
When the cat types, I soak it up. Lots of the pros in this field are burning out trying to convey what's going down or just flat giving up trying to explain it or frustrated at the lax attitudes here on ZH.
Stick with us, Cougar. Lots of us are paying attention.
Got that all correct. The words may be harsh, the intent is education.
The new Obamacare. Ebola.
Kill off the population so you don't have to pay for heathcare.
i was reading today that Mao had much the same opinion of starvation. He sold Chinese wheat and rice on the global market to raise cash (and even gave it away to allies) while the Chinese countryside perished, and said that it was easier and cheaper to work people to death than to murder them.
99% of the cases are in Liberia or Sierra Leone.
This thing is being blown out of proportion. If Ebola was airborne, that number would be 100x that by now.
Why is the first case of Ebola outside of West Africa in the US?
Why is it not in Europe where a huge African population lives in Belgium and France? Why nothing in other parts of Africa?
Either the US is a magnet for random unfortunate incidents or the US is a massive propaganda machine purely designed to keep its people in fear at all times.
Take your pick.
Damn dude. Not dying fast enough for ya? Give them a chance. The funking hospitals are fucking full! They are being turned away. They are dying as fast as they can and the "officials" or logging as slow as possible.
You folks tell yourselves whatever makes you feel safe. But know this.
As of Sept. 28 forward, everything...and I mean everything you hear will be absolute 100% grade A lies and bullshit. Period.
I don't mean the usual bullshit blend we are usually fed.
This shit will blackout.
News will be in the form of obituaries....or folks stopping in the road to puke or blast blood out their asses.
Nothing in Europe, elsewhere in Africa or India, China and so on.
Just in the US.
I'd give a care if I wasn't raised in a perpetual state of hysteria and fear.
"Nothing in Europe, elsewhere in Africa or India, China and so on."
Yeah, were special, ebola can't attack us. Were going to bring back 3,000 ebola exposed soldiers and open our borders to prove we can't get it.
Just because the talking heads ain't sayin it, doesn't mean it not there.
I'd bet my right nut its in UK...and half my left nut that it's in France.
India wouldn't notice it, likely die of cholera before the Ebola onset....China knows how to deal with it hardcore, but they aren't going to telegraph it.
social security and medicare/caid are saved! hallelujah. praise the lord!
"Spoken like someone whose grants have been threatened."
Of course we need to be vigilant but c'mon people, if this thing were truly alarming, the city of Lagos, Nigeria would already be utterly devastated by this thing. Lagos is the largest human petri dish on the planet.
The whole continent other than a few former colony cities. But it might present a valuable opportunity for spreading not just Ebola, but Jihadi Ebola.
I figure something like this will come along that will truly hit the human race, but this one isn't it. Should it mutate into a full airborne virus like the flu, all bets are off. Nice trial run though.
A true believer operation could collect the fluids, ship them to Europa or to North America and visit your local Chinese "all you can eat" buffet. They could squirt some of that goob into the Sweet and Sour Pork tray, and Operation Jihadi de la Ebola is the hit of the season. Our intelligence apparaciks are suppose to think out of the box for these kind of scenarios. Don't know why it hasn't already happened. Just the news of a thwarted attempt to do this would instantly decimate the restaurant business, with concentric disruptions to society.
Maybe they don't want to get any closer to the shit than we do
Certainly, but suicide belts, shoes, undies, cars loaded w/ propane, of course Airliners, ect ect ect. They are committed, and by the grace of their god, well...
I wouldn't want to get near 20 yr old munitions to rig them as IEDs, but true believers don't seem to mind. They don't even mind flipping the switch with them packed in the trunk.
The virgins await. What's a little fever and butt bleed for Allah?
Oh, don't need to. I'm sure there are some infected Soldiers of Allah, book em on a Cruise Ship. Or like I posted earlier, collect a few ounces of the fluid, board a cruise ship and quietly drip it into all those great buffets. Hell, have a kitchen prep person to promulgate the faith so to speak.
But -- but --- losing ourselves to hysteria is why we come here.
You can always get back to The Walking Dead
It's hard to read this administration as to when they will hit the panic button. My guess is somewhere around 5-10 k cases in the US, martial law of some sort will be imposed with travel restrictions, school and restaurant closures, and sporting event cancellations. It will devastate the economy. If folks quit showing up to work at gas stations and supermarkets it will get ugly. Good luck to all.
My post from August 10, 2014:
The way to deal with this is to basically stop international travel for a period of time until no new cases are being confirmed. The problem with this approach is that it will set off the greatest domino effect in financial markets that we can imagine.
One way or the other we are screwed if this virus gains a foothold in the general urban populace which flies, drives and comes into contact with literally hundreds if not thousands of people a day.
Is Dr. Kent Brantly a pawn or active participant in the globalist satanic broken record about opening the gates of hell message?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1Vwskp8-oA
They like to enlist kids too. Who could hate an innocent girl and her little dog talking about wiping you out?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uU6U-8LP1DY
The most feared words in America:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Q1G76_ysNo
Just came across this story re. a patient in isolation in Honolulu:
Patient in isolation at Queen’s Medical Center, officials say Ebola a possibility
By Kristine Uyeno and Web Staff
Published: October 1, 2014 at 4:10 pm | Updated: October 1, 2014, 6:25 pm
http://khon2.com/2014/10/01/patient-in-isolation-in-honolulu-hospital-of...
excerpt:
“We are early in the investigation of a patient — very, very, early, who we’re investigating that might have Ebola,” said Dr. Melissa Viray, deputy state epidemiologist. “It’s very possible that they do and they have Ebola,...
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Dr. Viray wouldn’t confirm any details about the patient, symptoms, or if the person had recently traveled to West Africa. But she did say red flags for Ebola include fever and recent travel to that area.
Airlines, mass trasportation and cruise ships are toast if it propagates.
Wow, hadn't thought of that medium. Send an unfortunate in this world - Soldier of Allah - on an all expense paid cruise upon the Queen Elizabeth (Ain't We got Fun).
Cruise Ships seem to generate plenty of funky bugs spontaneously, with no help needed from the faithful.
I've read some really terrible stories. Why anyone would consider a week of disentary locked in a cabin a relaxing vacation doesn't make sense to me. To each his own.
I wonder if 5,000 aboard an aircraft carrier have similar outbreaks from time to time. But to your point, bugs are one thing, and conducting biological warfare is another.
Ah. I can imagine a ghostly cruise ship under power running aground on a beach in South America -- everyone aboard including the entire crew either dead or too ill to move.
+1 Thank you. The mental image you just created would rival any of the macabe art during the black plague.
If they ever have to quarantine a cruise ship people will be jumping overboard to excape.
I keep hearing 6000+ infected...and 3000+ dead...
Do we have any numbers on how many survived? Or is it that the infected are just only weeks away from the dead pool?
Great question... there is an approximate 55% death rate at the moment, but that includes all the newly infected that may or may not die over the next few weeks. I bet someone with any sort of serious math background can figure this out fairly easily.
One thing I have noticed over the years... the media will be as sensationalist as possible unless held back by government moderators. Remember SARS? Non stop footage of Asians wearing masks in public...must be awful... nothing happened in Asia, let alone America. Now we have infections in America and the media parroting the line "infection ONLY through direct contact with fluids, NOT airborne, NO RISK of infection unless showing symptoms". With the current nature of media the only things parroted are the sensational stuff that sells ( whether or not it is actually a concern ) and/or the .gov script, which overrules truly sensational news if needed (quite obvious frankly if you notice the stuff they choose to NOT report). From my angle... the media is grasping on to this because the public is as well. It sells. At the same time they are downplaying it ( the .gov moderation ).
At this moment in time there is only one important fact. That fact is this: "There is a relatively new virus that currently has a 55% death rate, has no known cure, has now transitioned from remote African deep-jungle animals (and tribes) into high density human cities, and has an exponential doubling rate of approximately 30 days or less." The important part here is the doubling rate.
If the last 6 months doubling rate continues for the next 20 months we will lose at least 50% of the global population. To me the only reason the media hasn't starting spewing this ( especially when math idiots like me can do the basic calculations ) means we are truly at serious risk and the government is trying to downplay it.
How can you not notice the fact that if what HAS HAPPENED the last 6 months continues for another year or 1.5 the world as we know it is over.
As right as I am on these numbers I sincerely hope they do not sustain. They won't no matter what and hopefully it is because we are beating the virus, and not because the virus is beating us.
African social conditions don't exist in the first world. It will be a threat to Africa but not us. It is relatively easy to prevent infections so if it gets to major epidemic proportions everyoen will be scared to be near other peopel and it will go away. It's been around sinc ethe 1970's.
"Air travel between the United States and the countries of Liberia, Guinea and Sierra Leone should have been totally shut down except for absolutely essential personnel but it wasn't."
Which would had been essentilly pointless, as nothing would had prevented someone to board a flight from Liberia to, say, Kenya and from there to the USA. Or, even easier, from there to France or London. The problem of epidemics is that either you basically forcefully seal off a whole country form the rest of teh planet, or connecting flights will just make it a couple of hours longer the trip to your own country.
A good Texan is a dead Texan.
The first rule of containment is you do not break containment. The second rule of containment is you...do...not...break..containment. Third rule, somebody shows symptoms, is exposed - they are quarantined in place. Fourth rule, only two people in a room at the same time. Fifth rule, one epidemic at a time. Sixth rule, all hazmat, all the time. Seventh rule - containment will go on as long as it has to. And the eighth and final rule - ......
AAAAAnnnd their off, we have open border policy taking a quick lead, with possibly ISIS attack coming on strong and home grown terrorist holding his own in third, with ebola outbreak bring up the rear.
HERE WE GO BITCHEZZZZZZZ.
This is all blown out of proportion. Half the infections come from grieving family rubbing themselves all over the dead bodies, nnot something Westerners tend to do at funerals. It doesn't transmit well between people without exchange of bodily fluids. Get a grip. Sure it's goign to weak havoc in Africa but here it will be barely noticeable especially how paranoid everyone is. If any oputbreak occurs the whole country will be wearing masks and gloves, voila, problem solved.