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Why America's Not Ready For An Ebola Outbreak (In 1 Photo)
Because nothing says "safety precautions" like rolled-up sleeves on a HazMat suit...
h/t Kirk B
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And here is a gentleman jet-washing the puke from the pavement outside the Texas Ebola victim's apartment building...
HD Chopper 8 caught crews cleaning the sidewalk outside the Ivy Apartments where the #Ebola patient stayed. pic.twitter.com/Tl7CVVzVvH
— WFAA TV (@wfaachannel8) October 2, 2014
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Hey! Let us move the virus around, share the wealth, per se...
http://news.yahoo.com/patient-ebola-symptoms-enters-washington-hospital-170221779.html
"Stan, me and Kenny don't give two shits about stupid. ass. ebama." /resumes singing po-po-po-poker face
Can we get back to a real topic, please? I hear Nicole Kidman just got a meatflap reduction. Russel Crowe just gave $900,000 to ALS (450K to ALS and 450K to a water foundation for needy, thirsty kids) so that they would never do something so vile as the ice bucket challenge. Matthew Broderick has lyme disease. Can't we move on?
If a guy comes into the country with a handgrenade he gets 20 years. If he brings a potential pandemic...
• He gets extradited to his hoam country to face possible life imprisonment
• He receives protective custody here, which is basically solitary for forever, or whenever it's politically convenient to hand him to Liberia
Or
• Jim! He's dead already.
What will bear out is the behavior of the people in charge. Much like a 21st-century Kobayashi Maru.
We need the 9/11 dancing isreali's to run a pubic safety video on the importance of wearing a Hazmat suit while dodging Gaza bottle rockets and protecting oneself from ebola airborne threat.
/ sarc
dude. there weere no dancing Israelis.
And they were students, or just blue collar workers, or maybe they were keeping an eye on "Palestinians"... but saying they exist is racist.
Dude.
Just run with my comedy piece. I love fucking with that crew in Tel Aviv.
;=)
"Boogeying Israelis" is a NSA/M055ad trap.
He carries my same heritage. Wanted to bash him on the use of using dude. Let it slide.
He'll read this.
Okay. Paint it red.
I see a red door and I want to paint it black.
The crew cleaning up lacked a hazmat disposal license.
The solution?
Make up a temp hazmat license and give it to the otherwise unlicensed crew.
Shit is playing out like a script to a Ben Affleck movie.
Sometimes the dark side of Darwin's law (in order for the spieces to survive, the stupid ones have to die) overcomes even the best of human organization. And we have hardly the best.
"DALLAS — Thomas Duncan shivered in the king-size bed, even though he was tucked under the covers and fully dressed — pants, socks and two shirts. It was Sunday morning, Sept. 28, and Duncan, from Liberia, had been in the United States visiting Louise Troh at her Dallas apartment for the past week. He felt weak and cold, he told Troh’s daughter, Youngor Jallah.
So Jallah took a quick trip to Wal-Mart and bought a $50 brown cotton blanket. When she returned, she draped it over Duncan’s shoulders and then gently lifted him by his back to try to get him to drink some hot tea. That’s when she looked into his eyes and knew in her heart that things were very bad."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/for-quarantined-relatives-in-us-ebola-case-extra-cautions-hope-and-prayer/2014/10/02/add51488-4a5f-11e4-891d-713f052086a0_story.html
Read all of it...it gets better
Not sure which is worse, being exposed to ebola, or having the last name of 'Smallwood'.
Did you notice that it was the family that showed common sense and concern for transmission? The daughter wouldn't even let the paramedics into the apartment until they gloved up and put on masks, then she told them not to touch anything...
Then they tell her she can go to the store for food if she had to...
Can we fire the medical personnel and hire some immigrant families instead? Say whatever you want about immigrants from Liberia...at least they showed smarts in this. The authorities? Not so much...
If clean-up mistakes like this are being made with the first case, imagine how it's going to be once we have a lot more cases, and the entire system comes under stress. This is a total failure of leadership and a disaster in the making. I've heard a lot of hubris from the CDC about how it can't happen here, but all you have to do is look at how this case is being handled to realize that it is happening. Ebola has found a new home. The doubling rate of new cases in the US will probably be about the same as it is in West Africa.
So from now on:
Don't sit down.
Walk straight from car.
Don't touch any handles.
Avoid vomit in the streets, especially red vomit.
This has got to impact something even though STAWKS are all the rage on the internet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plague_doctor
and now we know why it is out of control in Africa
Lookin' gooood is better than Feelin' good....
Israel does have the 'Ebola Dome'.
Instead of that hot Russian bitch Eugenia, they are now selling fucking mop buckets on the left hand pop-up! This is getting some kind of serious now!
Washington (AFP) - A patient with symptoms that could be associated with the deadly Ebola virus and a recent travel history to Nigeria was admitted Friday to a Washington-area hospital, a spokeswoman told AFP.
Listen pal, if we're "Ready for Hillary" we sure as hell are "Ready for Ebola"
The only difference between ebola and Hillary is that Hillary has a penis.
He shoots, he scores!
Stiff competition for the Darwin Awards this year .
Be prepared .
The time to panic is before the Titanic has left the harbour .See
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2014/08/ebola-friendly-reaper_6.html
If the Triffids don't get you, Ebola will : seehttp://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2014/08/deader-guide-to-ebola.html
Plants have been breeding humans . See
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2011/05/ebola-and-chocolate.html
Further examples of the Plant-Herbivore Wars :
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2011/04/garlic-and-plant-herbivore-wars.html
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2013/07/rabies-alzheimers-and-formic-acid.... Notice the cute trick to penetrate skin barriers . Reminiscent of hemorrhagic diseases like Ebola and Especially SuperEbola .
SuperEbola is Ebola on steroids , then add some . The Fifth Horseman on a Harley ! : see
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2013/01/training-immune-system.html
for the desperate . : See
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2006/03/training-immune.html
Good luck !
Meh.
I guess if it's OK for Bruce Wilds, it's OK for Andre Willers.
LOL Right onto the car.
Nice shrubs by the way. Looks like botanical gardens.
This is such a distateful subject.
The US will be the vanguard of infectious disease once we turn any Patient Zero into Patient Contained. With Brantly we grabbed a weaponized version of ebama. With our troops in Africa, we're stopping the export of infected to our "frenemies," curtailing the development of their own vaccine.
At this same point each American soul will immediately be among the Infected, to be suspected, kettled and disinfected. Grow your personal network now, love your neighbors, join a co-op. God bless, as it gets quite bad from here. One way is mass infection, the other is dead liberty.
Resist. Quo vadis
I swear I read a news/research piece from a link posted around here the other day, that showed Ebola can survive up to 6? days on surfaces? Anyone have any of these links handy?
overview, cat a agent persistence:
http://aem.asm.org/content/74/3/555
survival in sewage:
http://www.unc.edu/courses/2008spring/envr/421/001/WHO_VirusSurvivalRepo...
fomites:
http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/196/Supplement_2/S142.full
dried virus and UV sensitivity:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21104283
Depends. Under sunlight maybe only a few hours, because UV light breaks RNA. But indoors, maybe a few days. The virus can still degrade on exposure to air but it will be slower. The problem for the virus would be that once it is no longer in a liquid carrier (mucos, blood etc) it is harder to get into another host. That's just basic physics.
All the hysteria about ebola getting around via door knobs is kind of out there. Yeah maybe could happen, don't think so. I'd be a lot more worried about ebola getting around via food handlers having the infection, given how much we tend to eat out. So in that case -- don't eat out. Avoid crowds. Take the stairs and not the elevator. Stay home. Just common sense really even if this were just the flu.
Thank you both for taking the time to reply. I have plenty to read from those links alone (and I will read it all).
-One interesting tidbit to me is that the Ebola virus is noted to show up in saliva very early in the infection phase. Making kissing and sharing food/drinks much more dangerous than I thought.
-Thanks for the headsup about food preparers, that should be immediately obvious, but I wasn't thinking about that until now.
Guys I know it sounds lazy, but I would like to be able to pass on basic information (leaning towards the overly safe side) guidelines for family/friends. I don't think that everyone I care about is really aware of the dangers here. I would love to give them bullet points so that I know they will read it. What info have you passed onto those who are not very engaged in this subject? Thanks again.
A sensible approach. Everyone will have a different list, here's mine directed at characteristics of the "zaire" strain, other strains like "restonii" are completely different. The current killer is clearly "zaire".
-- Ebola is a virus, not a bacterium. It cannot be countered via antibioltics. There is no vaccine except maybe blood serum, and serum at the moment is very rare. Once you contract the disease there is no cure. All hospital based treatment is nothing more than "supportive care" meaning helping someone fight it off.
-- There is a lot of talk and rumor about mutation rates making ebola a super-bug. I don't want to get into the details, but it is unlikely that ebola is going to mutate into something monstrous anytime soon. Clearly however the current strain is somehow different and the differences are bringing it to America. Instead of mutation, more likely is that ebola will infect someone with another viral load, and then from that virus learn how to do interesting things. This is why ebola getting into cities is a huge full-on big hairy deal. This route of viral "mutation" is actually really common and the source of the all the avian and swine flus we hear about coming out of Asia. Read up on it if you are curious.
-- The virus manifests in the body as what is called "hemorrhagic fever" -- infected bleed to death. Essentially your internal organs break down and turn to liquid. In past years the fatality rate was nearly 90%. This time it seems to be around 60%. This is not cause for celebration, hemorrhagic fever is a terrible way to die. And if you don't die you can be crippled for life with ongoing organ disfunction, brain damage, muscular and nervous system pathology, and a host of other ailments having nothing to do with the virus itself.
-- There are at present no demonstrated herbal cures or preventives for virus including ebola, nor can I start to imagine such a thing. Believe what you want but basic biochemistry probably wins this one and the only sure way to not get ebola is to stay away from infected.
-- Zmapp as heard in the news is an experimental serum-like approach. It is hard to manufacture, all the known doses are apparently consumed already (no doubt they have a few in reserve at cost) and it is not even demonstrated to work. So forget about it, it essentially doesn't exist.
-- Ebola does not spread like flu. Yet. It spreads via direct contact with bodily fluids (any fluid at all including mucous from a sneeze or cough nearby). Direct contact here means "zero feet away" and "nearby" means "a few feet away."
-- Ebola does not spread via water, sewer or domestic animals that anyone is aware. It does not spread via mosquitos or fleas. This assessment might change once more data is available but honestly if it did spread that way we would have probably had a global pandemic and billions dead starting 30 years ago.
-- Ebola is reasonably fragile. It consists of a naked RNA strand that is vulnerable to sunlight and mild chemicals. So cleaning up is easy enough. However it can linger in bedding and clothing which need to be handled carefully if at all. The advice that good personal hygiene is enough to prevent infection has not been proven however, so there might be something else going on. Extreme caution is absolutely required. Running away screaming is not a bad approach.
-- There is some debate as to when an infected person becomes contagious. CDC says "when they show symptoms" (fever, vomiting) which means you might be coming in contact with fluids. I personally am not aware of any demonstrated case where someone got the infection from someone not showing symptoms, but clearly this would be really hard to demonstrate anyway given how this thing is spreading.
-- A person who has survived an ebola infection is then immune to that particular strain. Their blood serum can be used to provide a kind of secondary (acquired) immunity for others, but serums like this are difficult to create because it requires human blood.
-- We are many months, probably years, maybe decades, from having a synthetic vaccine. Period. The only defense for now is to stay away from infected. But that is not difficult if one is not completely stupid.
So there you go. If I think of anything else I'll add another comment.
Good post, Cougar. Thanks.
No sign of MIffed lately . . .
Thank you SO MUCH for this Cougar!
Very kind of you to share the information.
Couple more points, before anyone drives off the rails:
-- This virus does not spread fast. Simple as that. It's not (easily) airborne and until it is, it's stuck in low gear. Remember that. It means you can get around it or walk away.
-- The infected aren't getting far. They become very ill quickly and go down really hard, and that's the end of it. In that regard ebola is self-limiting.
-- None of this is magic. It's not technology. It's not the CDC or the WHO or anyone else, those pukes are powerless. It's about people not being stupid. The more people understand how all this works, the better everyone will be. Getting information out is easy but people have to stick with the medical science and common sense or the useful signal gets lost in the noise. That would be stupid. So pay attention to events and think clearly about obvious things and everyone will be fine.
FWIW, I'm not worried. If anyone cares what I think, I'm still watching and still waiting. I've not seen anything unexpected. I expect some really ugly things, and I expect them to be managed, and I won't worry about it when they happen because the worse I can imagine is still within the bounds of the acceptable. That said, shit could take off. Well if it does you'll have to do what humans have done for 5 million years, and change your life plan, or run, or start over. Which I think you all can do fine.
"The infected aren't getting far. They become very ill quickly and go down really hard, and that's the end of it."
Your comments are helpful, but the virus may already be getting less virulent. Remember that the Dallas patient presented with symptoms at the ER, was sent home, and managed to cope (and presumably mingle a bit) for another two days before returning to the ER in a more seriously sick state.
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/psds-ftss/ebola-eng.php survival outside host in dried medium 50 days.
This calls for a shooting spree once diagnosed…. Unless it’s unconstitutional to mention such activity.
Spider-Man towel in his hand?
Looking at that apt complex it's obvious that they live in a low income area. And low income people tend to be in general not as hygenic (in a public sense) than say people who live in the suburbs. I'm not saying they're dirty or anything but when you live around squalor, it's hard to keeps one's surroundings clean. Anyway, I'm shocked that they are having maintenance workers / janitors "sanitizing". Shouldn't there be public health cleaners or something that specificially handles this? I mean seriously.
How do you contain a city the size of dallas once people realize it's time to leave?
It's contained... Don't panic...
It just keeps getting more full Ebola retard... Don't go to a store anywhere near this apartment complex in Dallas.
"Ms Jallah visited her mother's home at Ivy Apartments on Sunday morning to check on the condition of 42-year-old Mr Duncan, a man she calls 'Daddy'.
She told The Washington Post that she found him in bed, fully dressed and shivering. After going to buy him a blanket, she brought Mr Duncan some hot tea which is when she noticed the redness of his eyes, a well-publicized sign of Ebola.
With his temperature at 102F, Ms Jallah called 911 and described his symptoms which included severe diarrhea, fever and shivering.
The mother-of-four advised the EMTs not to enter the apartment without gloves and face masks, warning them that her stepfather had recently traveled to the U.S. from Africa.
An ambulance took Mr Duncan to the Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital while she followed in her minivan along with several family members.
Ms Jallah brought along the blanket that she had bought earlier for him and which he had had draped around himself until the ambulance had arrived.
After many hours of sitting in the ER waiting room she was finally informed that Mr Duncan had been isolated and that no visitors were allowed.
The family were not informed that Mr Duncan had suspected Ebola. No one took away the blanket which the contagious man had used or advised the family about what to do next.
Ms Jallah returned to her mother's apartment, sprayed disinfectant and sprinkled liquid Clorox on the furniture. She told her mother not to sleep on the bed andbought sanitizers, a makeshift mattress and two new blankets.
Her next contact with healthcare officials was on Wednesday night when she and her husband Aaron Yah were visited in their second-floor apartment by officials from the state and CDC.
The officials took the temperature of everyone in the apartment - Ms Jallah, her husband, their daughter and three sons, aged two to 11.
The night before Mr Duncan was quarantined, the children had stayed over at their grandmother's apartment and slept on her couches.
The health workers told the family not to leave their apartment, but when Ms Jallah explained that they didn't have any food, she was told her that she and her husband could go to the store."
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2779036/My-daddy-going-bathroom-...
zip wow. Explain why there is no official response. I thought after seeing X-files and 24-hours, there was supposed to be a major momo zillon dolla crack helicopter dropping confinement system with shock troops to drop down on a 5 mile radius around the apartment...no ? crickets.
Call me 'Daddy'.....
forget collodial silver
find a rabbi and beg him to let you into the home of saturn satan that place bee safe yes sir
plead and beg tell him that stuff you said about the lack of gas chambers in poland was just a joke.
offer him a blow job or 666 blow jobs.
offer him a safe haven for his kosher meat and he will bend to your will.
safe haven for him and a nice place for your kids
Suck a circumised dick, Rabbi.
Let me pre-empt your response. Dry vagina, Rothschilds, inchoherent ramblings about the "tora bora" and such.
Your routine is played.
Some assholes on this site still find you funny, but in reality you're are a walking shadow, a player who struts and frets his hour on the stage (albeit a very, very tiny stage) and is heard no more. A tale told by an idiot, filled with sound and fury, signifying nothing.
To drop it to your level of intellect, your posts are a bore; you're an idiot with a podium, and your comments are an embarrasment to youself. Assuming you still have enough sanity to understand the concept of embarrasment. Which I doubt.
Minge, Who the fuck are you ? Shakesfuckingspear?
Where did you come from and who are you working for?
Tony has more truth in his little finger than you will ever have.
So collect your paycheck and go Troll somewhere else.
Tony's little finger smells like your ass.
Who the fuck am I? Someone who hates the assohles that drink up confirmation bias.
Where do I come from?: Northwest Pennsylvania.
Who do I work for? Myself. I've owned my own business since 1992.
And yes, I will collect my rather large paycheck from my successful business, but I will continue to "troll" here.
It's too much fun to leave. Irritating you emotionally-invested douche-bags has become kind of a hobby for me.
Emotionally invested in what the truth.
Maybe you should take you head out of your business or your ass and see how the world really works.
But probably you are to busy collecting your large paycheck to do that.
You might not be able to handle the truth.
"Emotionally invested in what the truth." For fuck's sake. Learn to speak the language, then get back to me.
And I'm the troll.
Do me a favor, Swave. Tell me your age, your occupation, and your marital staus.
I could learn alot about your personality from those three data points. It might fill in the blanks (very few blanks, might I add) from the profile I've already imagined.
This post suggests you are emotionally needy, unloved, and insecure. Perhaps you should add a new activity to your daily mix. Few people can get out of internet trolling what you seem to need.
That's a school. There is probably nothing there. Why would there be? Nobody in the school was infected. The guys are in Tyvek because everyone knew the news crews would be all over the place -- because it's a school. Think of the children! Reporters are attention whores and the CDC is wary of cameras and film crews.
But the guy pressure washing without protection is probably as good as dead. That was a major fuck up on someone's part, like sending Duncan home with a pill was a fuck up. Are Texans just fuck ups now? Looks that way. If it were me and after seeing that picture I'd have the maintenance guy in a hospital isolation ward under watch within hours, and another crew out there in Tyvek with 10 gallons of bleach and orders to manually bleach and scrub everything including the landscaping. I bet they don't even bother looking him up. Because they don't want to have to explain (again) who fucked that up (again).
Okay Texas, either man up or get ready to die. You keep playing this gay CYA bullshit and Dallas will become a ghost town, and that isn't going to be good for football season, is it? No it won't.
Last call for hookers!!!
CDC meant to say clean it with a flamethrower, but it came out pressure washer.
Give the boy a break. He's just a grade school student
The guy is probably right about the containment from Africa not working by stopping flights. What would happen:
people fly from Liberia to a country like Egypt then from Egypt to America. Instead of screening just the flights from Liberia, EVERY flight would be a high risk.
I guess they've been reading ZH because the Hazmat crew has arrived!
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/03/health/ebola-us/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
Duplicate.
The Feds and the CDC are more concerned with containing the panic than they are with containing the disease. Politics trumps public safety every time.
Did you see that fucking press conference a moment ago!? Holy god I'm more scared now then I was before.
It sounds like they know they have no plan. All they can do is talk about how we have "bar none, the best medical infrastructure in the world" and how they are going to stop it at its source in Africa, with our troops. You've got to be fucking kidding me!!!!
Plan? What plan! We don't need no stinking plan!!
Their only plan is to make sure YOU don't panic and they don't catch it. They didn't buy all those hazmat suits for the unwashed masses.
I'm reasonably intelligent about this kind of thing, and I will tell you straight up I would have no idea what to do now.
Folk, this is screwed up. It is totally off the hook. If they could have kept it in Africa maybe we'd have had a chance. But now, no forget it. Oh and BTW "keeping it in Africa" is worse than herding cats. It's worse than using a collander to bail out a boat. Keep it in Africa are you even serious? How the hell do you manage that? It would take a lot more than 3,000 soldiers more like 300,000, and then they would have to shoot people. No sorry that ship has sailed.
Okay here's what I would do. I would be honest. Just out there brutally honest with people. I'd sit down in front of a camera with a good fifth of single malt and lay it out. What is a virus. What is hemorrhagic fever. Where it came from. How it moves around. What it does to people. How to avoid it. What to do when someone in your household shows symptoms. I'd take 3 hours and slowly lay it out one hellish fact at a time. Leave them terrified. Weeping and suicidal. But they'd know the situation and nobody would have any doubts where they stand.
That's what I would do. But fuck me, nobody is going to do that ever.
You could do it, Cougar. I can see you doing it ... single-malt and all. And I would be front and center taking notes, I have that much trust in you and your knowledge/empathy.
Y'all just need to channel the good Doctor there at the Atlanta airport in the hazmat suit ... spread your wings so to speak ;)
Bah, everyone knows a little virus can't stand up to even a single .223 round
Can we bomb Ebola? Seems to work for every other foreign problem.
Maybe we can bomb ISIS with it?
(See what I did there?)
Well, you can bomb the people that have Ebola, so....ya.
Most ebola victims in the west will feel too guilty to be able to take anytime off of work when they will feel ill.
Such is the the need to please their slave masters. Ebola sick work slaves will turn up to work, coughing , infecting healthy people, but they will do so knowing at least they attempted to keep corporate productivity up !
Q. How many black people die from ebola verses white people ?
Given the origin i'd have thought black people *might* have better immunity to it than other groups which would mean it could be much worse if it got out of Africa into Asian or White populations.
Just a guess though. It might only be people from very specific areas deep in the centre of Africa that have resistance.
Perhaps Ebola is just another staged event? Like Sandy Hook? Batman in Aurora? Tucson? "Boston Massacre"? Fergeson?
See the pattern?
their staged events generally involve killing lots of people
They need to get it in this country to get data on how it effects a white population. They have developed other viruses that effect only single populations. It cannot be done in Africa.
Do you actually believe the shit you post, or are you just trying to get up-votes. You may be the stupisist fuck I've ever had the misfortune of coming across.
With norovirus, just being in a room where someone vomits almost guarantees you will be infected. If you can smell vomit, you are inhaling vomit. Noro comes on so fast you cannot control the spew, because the cells lining the stomach rupture gushing body fluid into the gut. You are juicing out.
They are not even telling all the symptoms of ebola
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001339.htm
My advice: for the time being avoid red slurpees. Carry eye drops so you dont get hauled off when the s hits the f.
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/symptoms/
Exactly. I was explaining Norovirus aersolization during vomiting to my folks and why it spreads so fast on those cruise ships. I was trying to paint the picture of how Ebola could be aerosolized. Because of the media most people think as long as they dont touch the vomit (according to the CDC guidelines just avoid fluids right?) they are safe.
felix2 said:
People who recover from Ebola infection develop antibodies that last for at least 10 years.
Well thank mother nature for that at least! If you're lucky enough to recover you get a 10 year pass.
Obama's politcally correct CDC is not serious about halting the spread of the virus.
Open borders, immigration and globalism is more important.
Obama issues an executive order granting amnesty to illegal aliens after the November election.
GUTIERREZ: IF GOP TRIES TO REVERSE OBAMA AMNESTY, IT WILL END THE GOP FOREVER
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/10/01/Gutierrez-If-GOP-Tries-...
Wednesday during a meeting with members of the Congressional
Hispanic Caucus, Rep. Luis Gutiérrez (D-IL) warned the
Republicans that after President Barack Obama fulfills
his promise to uses an executive order to grant
amnesty for up to 6 million illegal immigrants
already living in the United States, if they try
and reverse it in any way, "They will be the end
of the Republican Party as a national party in
the United States of America."
The indian lady walking through the vomit wash in open toed shoes is priceless. You can't MAKE this stuff up.
Yeah. She is from India. It ain't the first pile of body fluids she has ever squished through her toes.
Incredible. I keep hoping that 'white stuff' under that power washer is 'chemicals/detergents/bleach' but hey, I doubt it. I'm sure the Indian or Paki lady will want to 'return to her village and visit her family in India soon', too. Note the water bottles on the pavement that belong to the workers. Thirsty, anyone?
CDC CHANGED WEBSITE regarding Airline Risk of Ebola. It talks about not using compressed air to clean because it could be airborne.
This is the website on August 10 2014
http://web.archive.org/web/20140810114023/http://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/...
The same page now:
http://www.cdc.gov/quarantine/air/managing-sick-travelers/ebola-guidance...
"CDC CHANGED WEBSITE regarding Airline Risk of Ebola. It talks about not using compressed air to clean because it could be airborne. "
From the White House throught the CDC to the local buffoons this threat is being eggregiously mismanaged.
MISMANAGEMENT = NEGLIGENT HOMICIDE.
We must remember to hold ALL those responsible to account.
stupid is as stupid does
stupid is as stupid does
stupid is as stupid does
Somewhere a vinyl copy of Forrest Gump is skipping. Michael Corleone runs desperately through an empty hospital, his loud footfalls a disgrace to his Marine Corps training. He finds the current economy barely alive, and wheels it into another room. A baker helps him ward off competitors. As a favor the SuperTwinkie is born.
Fat, stupid and gravid is in our future.
Are you in the mattress business by chance?
Get prepared their plan in medical martial law http://thebookgallery2014.blogspot.com/2014/08/beyond-ebola-preparation....
and isis celebrates with another beheading video,,,,, celebrating our eboanization,,,,, kills British citizen,,,, away we go,,,,,,,,
There's nothing like a high power pressure-washer to get those large Ebola droplets flying around in the air (notice the other people standing around with ZERO protection). This is a joke.
No license plate on the car in the pic??? Hmmm wonder why?
Hazmat shorts and snuggies now available on Alibaba.
Why is Obola sending another 1000 troops to Africa? The Africans are doing a far better job of cleaning up their shit than we are.
Why? To get more test subjects maybe - like how they put service personnel down wind of nuclear bomb tests to check the effects.
There's bound to be a sexual transmission aspect that they're not telling anyone.
So... go Amish for a while would be my advice as from the sound of it, unlike AIDS, Ebola doesn't need to mainly spread through anal sex.
Bush took a lot of flack for not responding appropriately to hurricane Katrina. Not much criticism for Obama's bungling of this shit.
the media are a political party of their own
Any action taken will be criticised. Any inaction will be criticised.
All from the comfort of your moms basement.
Why did Texas authorities have the possibly infected family members (4) quarantined in their apt for 21 days located in a densely populated neighborhood? Good question maybe they believe its a false flag.
Prepare to shelter in place.
Anyone with an 8th grade education would solidly agree with the numerous beneficial actions the government could/should have taken, all of which have been repeatedly posted all over the place. Even Piers Morgan could have done better than our POTUS. Maybe Obama should read the Daily Mail to figure out what to do?
Back in August and early September ZH ran posts on the Ebola and large number of the posts called bull, false flag. I realize that a lot readers of ZH hold a masters and doctorate degrees in SCW.
Shoulda Coulda & Woulda
Okay, I am going to take exception to this.
MANY ZH veterans (those still here, at least) clearly possess degrees of varying importance/'WOW' factor.
Clearly, I am not a ZH veteran NOR do I hold a degree in anything ... just seems wrong to me to redicule someone on their perception of their degree.
Everyone knows a hurricane and the Ebola virus are the same thing. O wait no there their not.
Let's give it ... oh, I don't know ... another three weeks, Fred and see how sentiment is going ;)
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!!! FUCKING POWER WASHING TRILLIONSx1,000,000,000 OF EBOLA VIRUSES INTO AEROSOL. If that guy is not dead in 2 weeks, along with thousands of others getting it, too, I will be shocked beyond belief.
Anyone notice the child in the window, by the way? If that is not one of the quarantined children, then he sadly should be now.
I just...can't...find the right fucking words...
welcome to the 3rd world
I want to know where the fuck the Dallas Fire Dept., or the haz-mat clean up team from CDC or NIH were to handle clean up of known infectious vomit. There should have been an immediate response to that apt. complex. Goes to show you just how fucked we Amerikans are when it comes to "public health". This whole incident and the way it was not handled is a disgrace, not to mention fuckin' dangerous as hell!
You would expect some major response. crickets.
Most "civil servants" do the state bidding and sit around and collect paychecks while waiting for their fully funded retirement. They don't think, care or develop expertise in much of anything unless they face the problem regularly. In fact, it is generally the least motivated and ambitious who go into government. They will not save us.
"Most "civil servants" do the state bidding and sit around and collect paychecks while waiting for their fully funded retirement. They don't think, care or develop expertise in much of anything unless they face the problem regularly. In fact, it is generally the least motivated and ambitious who go into government. They will not save us. "
This is the deplorable truth being rubbed in our faces once again.
The bureaucrats and politicians don't give a fuck about anything except themselves and their .GOV fiefdom skim off the productive classes.
These worthless .GOV liars and skimmers are going to hide and lie and protect themselves.
When push comes to shove and shit actually has to be done they will call their no-bid contract cronies and have the lowest bid under-uninformed subcontractor idiots called in to half-assedly do the dangerous and dirty work that the populace continually screams goverment requires ever more of our freedoms and money to do for us.
More government is always the answer and yet the problems government purportedly exists to solve are never going to be solved by government as solving problems renders the bureaucracy obsolete, and NO ONE no matter how stupid is going to willfully destroy their own sweet protected unaccountable gig.
Yawn...when I see millions contract it from sea to shinning sea, then I'll worry. Even one million contracting and dying is only 1/3 of a percent of the population of this feckless land.
How many family members & friends do you have? I'm sure it's only in the hundreds, or maybe thousands. Would it not bother you if all of them contracted it, since, you know, that is only a few thousand?
In other words, you just don't care because it has not affected YOU personally. If even just ONE of your close family members got it, then I bet your entire demeanor would change, ASAP.
Bottom line is nobody cares until it hits them, then their worried.
It's not a problem for all of the people until they themselves have it or one of their loved ones contract it.
I don't know why people are being hysterical, when the statistics are so extreme against contracting this.
Well, by way of example, the statistics had the odds of an imported Ebola case by the end of September at 18%. Then, suddenly, that shot up to 100%.
If and when this hits a major population center anywhere on any continent, and embeds...hockey stick off the charts. Guaranteed.
I'd like you to try to turn on your filters. And if one just one child might be saved, we must to everything??? Is that what you're saying? Of course I haven't contracted it, nor have any family members to the best of my knowledge...if that is the only standard by which I comport my life, then I am a kept pet of the plantation.
Not saying we should do all to protect even just one child. Saying you will care if God forbid just one child in your family gets it, rather than yawning if a million strangers do.
And jeez, power washing is the stupidest thing they could have done. Might as well get on their knees and lick it all clean.
Whether my child contracts it is irrelevant to what as a nation...or what my supposed gov't is responsible to do. The US Gov't is welcoming millions of 3rd world natives who many didn't even have indoor plumbing or inoculations against diseases that HAD been all but eradicated, but now has reemerged.
what would happen if we closed US borders for 30 days. sounds impossible to financially do.
Close our borders? We no longer have borders for the purposes once intended and demanded.
you sure? what was our trade deficit last year? might save some money ...
Just keep being optimistic. Its a good plan.
I wonder what happened to the 50% who downvoted me two months ago, when I suggested that its only a matter of time until asymptomatic African got on a plane and infected a bunch of US citizens. I guess your optimistic friends are losing some of their confidence?
People are too comforted by television shows depicting fast response to a crisis, by actors. Americans have built their entire world view around television and therfore think themselves invincible because the teevee tells them so. I have news for them, its the EXACT opposite.
Systemic breakdown from the panic long before one thousand get it. Most will die of many other things.
Who will fly? Is there ebola on your twenty dollar bill? <insert joke here>
For all the posters endlessly declaring their independence from manipulation...
The lack of precaution and lack of caution itself will harm us more than worry.
Any news of Ebola cases in any other countries? Besides Africa. give it time i guess.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2014/10/02/21982696.html
Test results on that one tonight. Probably negative.
I hope your right.
The real issue is the race between patents on vaccines and one of Gods simple little mutating machines. So how smart are we? Are we smart enough to produce a vaccine and squelch the current eruption before EB figures out how to marry an enterovirus or some other virus.
This will virus will spread expontentally. This lack of concern and precautions demonstrates it.
Watch how this is blown off to becoming serious. It will take a while to incubate.
Without even researching, I'll proffer that more people will die of Influenza directly or indirectly than Ebola within the US this year, next year, and all the previous years since Ebola was first documented circa 1976.
Wow congratulations on the Red Herring argument. You truly are the herpes gift, that keeps on giving.
Not much a retort friend. Dying from Influenza is a pretty painful way to go. There are approximately 30 million HIV/AID's folk in Africa, and there is little evidence that acquiring Ebola is anymore contagious than taking it in the butt.
The flu kills the weak and elderly. Ebola is indiscriminate.
in africa the remoteness of the villages and the deadliness of the disease is what contained it. it burned itself out before it could spread. a dense urban population and long incubation period is not going to help us. people need education in how this spreads and we need isolation from possible vectors.
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"Let me be clear....Don't you just love it when a plan comes together!"
The great culling has begun. Got to love Eugenics.
Moar Ebola Porn!
O-bomb-a needs to pull another executive order out of his ass and just shift all the brown shirts and ball gropers from DHS into "puke details"
I posted this the other day, now I should have thought about the lack of qualified cleaners. Those guys are just from the complex janitor squad... We are indeed DOOMED!
"Imagine a person walking around the grocery who just starting to show symptoms touching their runny nose and then feeling the fruit. Mmm did you remember to wash EVERYTHING you just bought at, well any place really...
Test drive or rent a car lately? What was on the wheel?
Heading into the Doctors office? Who was the last to turn that knob? Why were they there?"
But Obama's politically correct say were all fine.
Up until we aren't.
The US had a nasty 1918 pandemic.
We are about due for one more severe than that. Ebola is about to hit big time.
Wall Street and DC would areas to start.
There is a fashion for that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plague_doctor