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Thousands Sign Petition To Ban Flights From Ebola Countries; Two Removed From Newark Airplane By Hazmat Crew
Whether it is due to the sheer deferred Ebola panic (we warned in June it was only a matter of time before the "world's worst Ebola epidemic" made it to US shores, which promptly got us branded as fearmongers as usual), or the administration's bumbled attempt at damage control with a very confused and mostly pointless press conference on Friday afternoon, but three days ago, a petition was launched on the White House website demanding that the "FAA ban all incoming and outgoing flights to Ebola-stricken countries until the Ebola outbreak is contained." As of this moment, over 4,000 people have already signed it.
And while petitions are usually pointless exercise in public outcry, in this case the CDC already responded. As the Hill reports, a travel ban to the countries facing an Ebola outbreak could paradoxically make the problem worse, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Tom Frieden said during a Saturday press conference.
Paradoxically indeed? Let's listen to Mr. Frieden's arguments:
Frieden said the CDC would consider any and all precautions, but warned that a travel ban could make it harder to get medical care and aid workers to regions dealing with the outbreak.
He said that had already occurred when African Union aid workers tried to get to Liberia but were stuck in a neighboring country for days because of a travel ban.
"Their ability to get there was delayed by about a week because their flight was canceled and they were stuck in a neighboring country," he said.
But isn't it mostly US troops deployed in Africa now, sent on a mission to shoot the Ebola virus on sight, instead of "medical care and aid workers" who are now the primary respondents to the world's worst Ebola epidemic in history? Guess not.
Frieden also said the CDC has experienced a spike in reported potential cases of Ebola following the first diagnosis of a patient in the U.S. in Dallas earlier this week, saying the rise in concern was a good thing but that he remained the only patient who has been identified as suffering from the disease. Two patients who were initially identified as having potential Ebola symptoms in the Washington, D.C. area were ruled to not have the disease on Saturday.
"We have definitely seen an increase in the number since this patient was diagnosed… that is as it should be," Frieden said. "We have already gotten well over 100 inquiries for possible patients… this one patient has tested positive," he said. "We expect we will see more rumors, concerns, possibilities of cases. Until there is a positive test that's what they are, rumors and concerns."
So, after ignoring the problem for months, the CDC finally has precisely what it was hoping to achieve: panic? Great job guys.
Frieden also said there were lesons to be learned from the delayed response to the Ebola patient in Dallas. It took two days for those who had been in contact with him to be contacted by medical officials, and Frieden said that should alert medical professionals to pay especially close attention to patients' travel history if they're showing signs of fever.
"As we anticipated, the arrival of the first Ebola patient in the U.S. has really increased attention to what health workers in this country need to do to be alert and make sure a travel history is taking," he said.
And speaking of inbound cases of fever, moments ago ABC reported that CDC officials have removed passengers from a plane that landed in Newark Saturday afternoon following a possible Ebola scare.
United flight 998 from Brussels landed at Newark Airport and has been met by Centers for Disease Control officials based in Newark after passengers on board, believed to be from Liberia, exhibited possible signs of Ebola. The passenger was displaying flu-like symptoms.
The flight was scheduled to land around noon.
Officials with the CDC removed two passengers from the plane. A man had been traveling with his daughter and both were removed by a CDC crew in full HAZMAT gear.
The airline issued a statement confirming that crew needed to assist an ill customer. "Upon arrival at Newark Airport from Brussels, medical professionals instructed that customers and crew of United flight 988 remain on board until they could assist an ill customer. We are working with authorities and will accommodate our customers as quickly as we can," said a statement from the airline." Other passengers remained aboard but were eventually allowed to deplane around 2 p.m.
A scare which promptly concluded when within the hour, CDC officials determined that the people exhibiting flu-like symptoms were, in fact, not contagious.
Passengers being allowed off United flight 998 upon @CDCgov determined person in question not contagious. @ABC7NY #Ebola
— Darla Miles (@DarlaMiles7) October 4, 2014
Finally, as a reminder, Newark is about 20 miles form Manhattan, although those looking for a real dramatic impact should wait until the Ebola scare touches down at JFK. At the current pace of spread, of the Ebola panic if not Ebola itself, it should be a rather short wait.
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I signed with my real name too:
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I know Ben. He's Heywood Jablome's brother in law.
Any relation to Phil D Basket ?
I flew back to CA from Newark on Sept 4 to beat the NWO's forced infecttions. It is just as easy for New Yorkers to use as JFK. You get the unholy eboly in Newark it is the same as having it in NYC.
Frieden has already lost his job. He will fuck things up even more before he leaves. Signed it. Up over 4,500 now.
By hubris and belief by public officials in their own self-serving pronouncements shall ebola spread : http://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/home-ebola-patient-stayed-disinfected-25959840
Came for the Newark Hamzat Crew jokes, leaving disappointed
Newark Hazmat guys deserve more credit. If these guys can handle Snooki's underwear drawer, they can handle ebama. Ho!
You're a great crowd, a great crowd. Last time I had an audience like this I went on a bender for 21 days. Just don't turn me in if you find me puking blood later, all right? That's a normal Tuesday.
So you probably read Donald Trump is suicidally depressed, on account of losing another casino. I heard he was down at Newark International licking toilet seats in the arrivals concourses.
[crickets]
Don't forget to tip your waitstaff!
Schlemiel, Schlemozl, either way you're a real meshuggenah for cheering us up like this. And ZH fixed the headline too!
Funny Bones.....................takin' it to the Edge
I just signed 2:32PM CST it says 1250 signatures not 4k+... Diebold running that platform as well??
If they were from Liberia and were vomiting on the plane, every person on that plane is susceptible.
Right now anyone with the means to leave Liberia on a plane is trying, and is trying to get to the USA where they believe is a cure. Somebody is probably passing out pamphlets on where to go.
Like the Albanian mob telling people to go to Lakewood, OH where a nice Albanian man will set you up with an apartment and a job being a sex slave for a wealthy Jew.
Obama operative..."Somebody is probably passing out pamphlets on where to go."
If flights to and from "Ebola" nations are to be stopped,
Are
all flights to and from the USA going to be stopped because
the US now an Ebola-stricken nation (Dallas) ? ?
but the USA is "exceptional" !!
oh, OK, never mind.
Good point, rwe2late. It demonstrated the degree to which I too am a mind-controlled zombie that your point did not occur to me, until I read your post. "We" are always so "exceptional" that "we" tend to take that for granted!
No, not a good point at all. If you care at all about the facts of this Ebola outbreak and the exponential deaths across 3 West African countries you will (if you're an adult) realize that any person in any of those 3 countries will want to get the fuck out if they possibly can - why do you think the US Army is there setting up tent hospitals? You have no fucking idea of how bad things are in those 3 African nations - people left dead and rotting on streets and roads with animals eating the carcasses. You have no fucking idea how "backward" and traditional people are in those countries. Get off of your fucking ass and travel someday. You have NO FUCKING IDEA how much worse things are elsewhere and NO IDEA EITHER HOW MUCH BETTER THINGS ARE ELSEWHERE.
Got news foir you - Europe is a better place to live than USA.
Before you start crowing about the US effort in Ebola stricken nations let me clue you in that Medecins Sans Frontieres has been there since the begiinning of this - as opposed to USA "help" from religious affilliations... and of course then the military. Get a fucking clue.
ajax, it is precisely because I have some clues, that I would NEVER willing travel to more than half of the places on the planet at the present time, nor at any time in the foreseeable future.
I was merely responding to the logic in rwe2late's comment, that flights to and from the USA should have to be stopped, if one agreed that flights from any countries with Ebola outbreaks should be stopped.
Ok Radical Marijuana I understand what you mean but it has nothing at all to do with logic writ large or any other way. If flights to the 3 Ebola sticken countries are on a strictly humanitarian basis then any personnel involved will all be aware that they will face quarantine when returning to the USA. If you don't realize that the US is capable of such precautions legally then you're crazy or perhaps simply insane.
happy face iconographic or whatever the fuck it's called.
I do not understand where the apparent vituperation in your replies is coming from, ajax. Of course, I am well aware of the ways that medical emergencies could result in martial law:
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/during-an-ebola-pandemic-all...
During An Ebola Pandemic All Of Your Rights Would Essentially Be MeaninglessBy Michael Snyder, on October 2nd, 2014
"I do not understand where the apparent vituperation in your replies is coming from, ajax."
OMG!!! Someone is wrong on the internet!
Seriously though, it's amazing how tightly wound some people are.
RM - maybe your maryjane handle is spooking him??
http://www.msf.org/about-msf
One or two, maybe even a dozen cases, will be no problem. After maybe 20 or so, it will be impossible to track all the people that have had contact with the infected people; then all hell breaks loose. Since it is only ~50% fatal our population will be back to about 1951. IMHO the fifties were really a lot better than now. Of course I was only 18 then. Looks like the guy in Dallas is on his way out and some of his contacts will need treatment.
Hmm. 50% chance or returning to the Good Old Days......
Just might be worth it. Hand washing is so pro-state anyway.
Snot n vomit for America!!!
My dad paid for 4 years private college and bought a '55 Chevy with earnings from one 1950's summer fishing in Alaska so those are glory days for me too even though I wasn't born until '73.....
Sure there were rich kids in school but the rest of us graduated with no debt to anyone by working. My, what a weird idea.
Death rate is 70%. Due to exponential growth of infection, the death rate is underestimated. Alot of people who have contracted it have not died yet, but will.
Forget petitions, they do nothing...
Vote with your wallet...
STOP FLYING
It's airborne. They created it. They need it and have now got it where they want it, creating panic in the western hemisphere. There has got to be a way to use this against them. Fucking criminals. From now on, everytime time i see a black man sweating or flushed i'm calling it in.
But then you'd labeled as "rayciss"
...and they'll probably pull you in instead of the carrier.
Racial profiling! Racial profiling!
"They created it"
You are so full of shit
There is a real chance this was an accidental release... bioweapons research was being conducted PRECISELY where the current ebola outbreak first occurred...
According to GBD, the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases has been operating in the area since 2006, supposedly working on "diagnostic tests."
Author Randal J. Schoepp, PH. D. reports that because the USAMRIID team just happened to be working on disease identification and diagnostics in the area, they had pre-positioned assays in the region to address the ebola outbreak:
The laboratory testing site in Kenema is supported by the Armed Forces Health Surveillance Center-Global Emerging Infections Surveillance and Response System. Other contributors to the work include the Department of Defense Joint Program Executive Office-Critical Reagents Program, the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) Cooperative Biological Engagement Program, and the DTRA Joint Science and Technology Office.
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2014/08/the-us-military-and-ebola-o...
I go with Hanlons razor most of the time, the way its being handled is pretty shocking, however. We should be sending jumbos full of hazmat suits, salines, and anything else useful out of military/chartered planes and getting the fuck out of there. Stopping trade would obviously be a secondary punishment for those in the effected countries but we should be doing it on scientific advice.
This has the potential to be catastrophic and it doesn't look like it'll be taken seriously until its to late.
Just one more reason I'm glad I moved to an area far away from any large population centers and airports.
Just one moar reason I'm glad I stacked ammo to keep em there!
Some poor SOB is going to sit down in his cattle-class seat and wonder why it is slightly damp.
His Merican' style thunder thighs and huge ass will engulf that seat and spill onto the next. This brave, obese and lazy bastard will seal in the ebola with his girth and save the rest of the passengers.
Swine Flu 2.0.
An American, not US subject.
"They don't call it the propaganda media for nothing."
After the propaganda has affected enough of the population to get the desired results, what we will get will make the NDAA seem tame.
NDAA is really a legal construct as part of a legal framework that will be used to justify the FEMA camps and brutality. Not that "legal" implies morally or Constitutionally correct.
An American, not US subject.
“The essence in obedience consists in the fact that a person comes to view himself as an instrument for carrying out another person's wishes and he therefore no longer regards himself as responsible for his actions.”
? Stanley Milgram, Obedience to Authority
sounds like they've got it
ALL UNDER CONTROL
You know how you've had a good flight? When the guys in HAZMAT suits bust in on arrival and detain the guy sitting next to you.
i seem to remember part of the issue with this virus being the return of false negitive test resaults early on in the infection. this truly is a crafty, insidious beast that has found it's way to our fair shores.
just a thought here but we are heading into the prime flu season, with that in mind what happens when ebola meets up with N1HI or any other strain of influenza?
things that make you go hmm...
by the way has anybody heard anything on the other person currently in iso in Dallas? I haven't seen any follow up since it was announced that there was a second probable case , seems the whole thing has been memory hole. I suspect he or she is a positive but perhaps they are waiting to announce it until the dust settles from case number one. sure would like to know though.
as far as flights go, it would have been a good idea but ebola always was a bit of a zero sum game. the only way to ensure it would not be a serious health risk to the US would have been to stop it from getting here in the first place.
guess it's to late for that now though, isn't it?
It has not 'found it's way to our fair shores.' We now know that it was deliberately brought to the USA by a psychopath who knew he had it and wanted free access to White Man's magic cure. Irrespective of how many others he infected
Ebola is an African disease, just like HIV was an African / homosexual disease. Both Ebola and HIV could have been contained within the affected groups only for selfish individuals deliberately deciding to make it everybodies problem.
It's not just the risk to peoples health, it's the costs involved in the medical care and possible loss of trade if thousands of people become ill.
Why is the US still issuing visas to people from affected countries?
HIV is in origin "African" but certainly NOT homosexual, my dear sir.
Is there a doctor in the house?
No, but your best chance of getting it is by frequently taking it up the ass from another fudgepacker.
No, not anymore. The Down Low crew accomplished some redistribution....
Ajax: I remember the 80's. Initially HIV infected gay men, the later infections were due to contaminated blood transfusions, contaminated needles with drug users and then the partners of bisexual/gay men and prostitutes started getting it. Just Google it, it was first named Gay related immune deficiency disease.
Gay-related immune deficiency (GRID) was the name first proposed in 1982 to describe an "unexpected cluster of cases"[1] of what is now known as AIDS,[2] after public health scientists noticed clusters of Kaposi's sarcoma and pneumocystis pneumonia among gay males in Southern California and New York City.[1]
During the early history of AIDS, when it was considered a disease of homosexual men, at least one physician suggested that male homosexuals reconsider the practice of engaging in anonymous sex.[3]
An ad hoc organization called Gay Men's Health Crisis was founded to combat what appeared to be a homosexual-only disease produced by sexual promiscuity or the use ofintravenous drugs or poppers. Soon after, clusters of Kaposi's sarcoma and Pneumocystis pneumonia were also reported among Haitians recently entering the United States[4] andhemophiliacs, among female sexual partners of AIDS patients, and among blood transfusion recipients with no other obvious risk factors.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay-related_immune_deficiency
Gay-related immune deficiency (GRID) (sometimes informally called the gay plague) was the 1982 name first proposed to describe an “unexpected cluster of cases”[1] of what is now known as AIDS ,[2] after public health scientists noticed clusters of Kaposi’s sarcoma and pneumocystis pneumonia among gay males in Southern California and New York City .[1]
An ad hoc organization called Gay Men’s Health Crisis was founded to combat what appeared to be a homosexual-only disease produced by sexual promiscuity , intravenous drug use , and/or usage of poppers . Soon after, clusters of Kaposi’s sarcoma and Pneumocystis pneumonia were also reported among Haitians recently entering the United States[4] and hemophiliacs , among female sexual partners of AIDS patients, and among blood transfusion recipients with no obvious risk factors.
Today the term Gay-related immune deficiency (GRID) is actually standing the test of time according to the Centers for Disease Control.http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2012/10/what-aids-used-to-be-called...
My poor old uncle got it from a blood transfusion during cardiac bypass surgery. My aunt wanted to take him to Medjugorje, but there was a war going on so they prayed at home.
Oops, OK it's not a joke ending in orge. Just checking.
....."I haven't seen any follow up since it was announced...."
Get used to that.
I seriously doubt they are counting all signatures. I signed it, verified the email, waited, and the count didn't change.
They must be using Diebold election ballot-counting technology.
I used to have to ride buses through Newark on my way home from high school. Trust me, there are worse things in Newark than Ebola.
Ebola is Jewish and Jews are our friends.
Nothing to worry about, continue ... bleeding.
hehe.
Perhaps the dot in the cranial cavity of your icon is oversized.
That's why we reference them as BrainStems. Can't you just see them hopping down the avenue?
The CDC presents itself as a government agency (.gov), but some say it is a private corporation with a government charter, like the Fed.
Does anyone know?
(It does appear that the CDC holds the patents to ebola.)
Editorial aside: There are only three things you can count on in the USA: The US Marine Corps, Chuck Norris, and the principle of following the money trail until it all makes sense.
This one is a two edged sword. The government wants to disrupt commerce. When the fake ebola crisis terminates, and it will. New laws will circumvent future outbreaks. Think long and hard about giving up liberties over a socially engineered event.
Let them spin inbound shipments of these Ebola cases. They will end up wiping egg from their face. Mark my words. Food for thought.
Well said. A lot less fatalistically than I could put it.
A wild guess - They ban cash money because it is "unhygenic". After that, all "money" is in the Bankster Borg and you better behave or you'll have an electronic-money accident, leaving you no choice, but to descend into the american underclass.
The basic problem is that medicine actually operates inside of human ecology, but the real human ecology developed through murder systems whose successes were based on the maximum possible deceits. Typically, collectively, we could not do things more BACKWARDS regarding epidemics, because those should be understood using the concepts of evolutionary ecologies, so that the conditions which tend towards more benign forms are promoted, while those which contribute to virulence are demonted.
However, medicine is actually inside the monetary system, which is inside of the murder system. Therefore, a pervese form of medicine which makes the most money, despite causing the most suffering, has been developed. Indeed, the systems of incentives are SO PERVERSE that it is quite plausible that epidemics could be examples of "firefighter arsonists" working behind the scenes. As usual, it is impossible to know for sure, however, there are some reasons to believe that this Ebola epidemic was deliberately done, as a biological weapons experiment. If so, then it would make PERVERSE SENSE that the public responses appear to be so incompetent.
Unfortunately, all of the horsemen ride on the same historical basis, that better death controls must be the central feature of human ecology. However, in the context of real conflicts, the actual death controls got operated by the best organized gangs of criminals, working covertly, to capture control over governments. In the end, that paradox of civilization selecting for criminally insane systems to control it looks like an out of control situation.
The established social pyramid systems use science and technology primiarly to become better at being dishonest, and backing that up with violence. That is the crazy context in which medicine in practiced, so that impossible ideals actually make the opposite happen in the real world. The current tragedy is that the better the science and technology gets, the more that actually feeds the monstrousity of the social pyramid systems to control civlization through backing up lies with violence.
THE BASIC PROBLEMS ARE THE PARADOXICAL WAYS THAT SOCIAL SUCCESS THROUGH BACKING UP HUGE LIES WITH LOTS OF VIOLENCE HAS ITS OWN INHERENT CONTRADICTIONS, WHICH DRIVE FINAL FAILURE FROM TOO MUCH OF THAT KIND OF "SUCCESS."
These days, we are just waiting to see which particular aspect of those integrated systems goes most out of control, first ... While covert use of biological weapons has always been on the top of the list of possible ways that could eventually happen.
I agree, based on the responses, and on the idiotic assertion that stopping commercial air traffic in and out of Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea would impede the government's ability to get aid to those countries (they don't have access to military aircraft?), it's hard to dismiss the idea that TPTB are intentionally promoting the spread of this rather than trying to prevent it.
However, we also live in the age of 'style over substance' where people have gotten away with PRETENDING to take action for so long (mark-to-fantasy, Central Bank jawboning as a means of addressing economic crisis, etc....) that its possible those in power (CDC, DHS, etc...) are actually delusional in terms of their understanding - they actually believe that simply SAYING the right things, independent of DOING the right things is sufficient to get the crisis under control. Therefore, pointing out that 'we have 40 years experience with ebola' (no, the world has 40 years experience, YOU don't have ANY experience with ebola) and 'we continue to monitor the situation vigilantly and take all necessary precautions' (power washers to clean up ebola-infected vomit is taking all necessary precautions?), while claiming that ebola is not that contagious and requires direct contact with a sick person (why so many health officials wearing full protective gear getting infected?) is all that's required, that these words are a magic incantation that will, by themselves and without any appropriate cautionary measures, prevent the spread of the disease.
Either way, we're all fucked now.
I totally agree, Al Huxley. I think both of your suggestions are correct, due to the compartmentalization, or "need to know" regarding how the social pyramid systems work. Those pyramidion people closer to the apex appear to be "intentionally promoting the spread of this rather than trying to prevent it." Meanwhile, lower level people have been employed within systems that require them to be deliberately or willfully ignorant of the bigger picture, as a condition of them getting their job and keeping it. Therefore, the lower level people appear to be "actually delusional in terms of their understanding."
"Either way, we're all fucked now," due to the paradoxical problem that civilization is controlled by lies backed by violence, which results in civilization going down the path of least morality.
I like to try to understand how and why that is happening. However, while doing so I have never found any practical ways to do anything about that runaway criminal insanity. The dynamics of social systems which are controlled by the applications of the methods of organized crime, so much, for so long, have resulted in the vast majority of people being unable to understand the ways that they were being manipulated. Indeed, it still appears that many people who are ruled over continue to be conditioned to find it impossible to believe that the ruling classes are criminally insane!
At least on Zero Hedge one can find a small community of people who are able and willing to consider that the ruling classes ARE criminally insane, and we can commiserate with each other about that. However, as long as those people continue to be a relatively small minority, nothing politically practical appears possible to respond to all the various ways that the ruling classes are engaged in systematic wars against the consciousness and lives of those that they rule over.
However, as far as I can now tell, most of the people who are employed within the established systems have been selected and molded to be "actually delusional in terms of their understanding," so that they can not see the forest for the trees, regarding the various ways that the ruling classes ARE "intentionally promoting" multifaceted wars against the consciousness and lives of the vast majority of people, that are being ruled over, and who have therefore gradually adapted to live inside of slave societies, whereby they mostly think like Uncle Tom slaves.
Furthermore, IF that was not bad enough, I regard all of the publicly controlled opposition groups as being just as much a part of the overall problem, since they continue to operate within the same frame of reference of the ruling classes' bullshit world view. Indeed, one of the reasons why it is practically impossible to think of any genuinely good solutions for these runaway criminally insane problems are that the ruling classes ARE able to dominate opposition groups, by funding them, and/or infiltrating them.
A genuine opposition group would have to pull off a series of political miracles to be able to resist being subverted or wiped out, before it could accomplish anything. A much larger number of people would have to understand the real ways that social pyramid systems worked, before it would be possible for there to be genuine opposition groups that would not end up being infiltrated and subverted.
MEANWHILE, "we're all fucked now," because biomedical technologies channeled into criminally insane biological weapons is much easier to do than stopping those, after they go out of control. In every possible way, the paradoxes of science and technology becoming trillions of times more powerful, being controlled within social systems based on enforced frauds, is driving the entire human species towards extremely horrible futures!
Question the disease diagnosis: bioweapons?
Amazing how this outbreak occured right where re4search was being conducted
According to GBD, the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Infectious Diseases has been operating in the area since 2006, supposedly working on "diagnostic tests."
Author Randal J. Schoepp, PH. D. reports that because the USAMRIID team just happened to be working on disease identification and diagnostics in the area, they had pre-positioned assays in the region to address the ebola outbreak:
The laboratory testing site in Kenema is supported by the Armed Forces Health Surveillance Center-Global Emerging Infections Surveillance and Response System. Other contributors to the work include the Department of Defense Joint Program Executive Office-Critical Reagents Program, the Defense Threat Reduction Agency (DTRA) Cooperative Biological Engagement Program, and the DTRA Joint Science and Technology Office.
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2014/08/the-us-military-and-ebola-o...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnQVUf775VE
Ebola - What You’re Not Being Told
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-08-04/25-critical-facts-about-ebola-outbreak-every-american-needs-know
#23 The CDC actually owns a patent on one particular strain of the Ebola virus. The U.S. Centers for Disease Control owns a patent on a particular strain of Ebola known as "EboBun." It’s patent No. CA2741523A1 and it was awarded in 2010. You can view it here. It is being reported that this is not the same strain that is currently being transmitted in Africa, but it is interesting to note nonetheless. And why would the CDC want "ownership" of a strain of the Ebola virus in the first place?
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=313329
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrkhA_kXo68
LINKS BEYOND LINKS, BEYOND LINKS ...
Okay, I am normally the conspiracy theorists nemesis here...not NSA type nemesis but counterpoint nemesis. However. this situation is so incredible that I have to choose between the most complete near impossible to believe incompetence in the government and President or some other invisible alternative as in a conspiracy. For once, I find the conspiracy to be easier to believe. It may be a first for me.
The question is, "What would the conspiracy be?", especially one I would fathom or give some credibility.
The only thing off the top of my head I can come up with is that the Prez is actually a hard line socialist and wants martial law to suspend the Constitution and take full control of the country. He can suspend elections, the 4th and even 2nd Amendments and take emergency actions of all sorts. Whether or not you want to put Jews or invisible agencies another step behind that is moot. All, I can see is a power grab, at least at first take.
So, we have a lot of conspiracy types. Pitch some other possibilities, preferably that do not involve aliens from Planet X.
Al Huxley, you're right about communication (incantation) taking the place of sound action, or any action at all.
On another subject, power washers to clean up ebola-infected vomit can work, if the power washers contain chlorinated water. No virus on earth resists chlorine. But do they even know that?
I'd be worried that even if the water was chlorinated, the aerosolization would include droplets not in contact with chlorine, and therefore still infectious, although the site itself would be effectively decontaminated when the job was done. Looking at the photos, it doesn't look like they brought in the hazmat A-team to do the cleanup. I stand by my earlier prediction that there's a good chance those guys are dead men walking.
....that its possible those in power (CDC, DHS, etc...) are actually delusional in terms of their understanding - they actually believe"...
It's not just possible, it's inevitable. See: Dunning-Kruger Effect
tldr.
Not that there's any difference, but the Obola Team can kiss the Senate bye. Amerika is a kleptocracy without a fix.
I hate to make politics out of this but if the Republicans right now tie Obama and the Democrats to this they win every single seat in the Senate and House outside of Detroit and D.C. All the R's have to do is say, "I would stop all flights and travel to..." immediate doubling of the vote for them.
I am telling you that people are really upset and party loyalty is not strong enough, especially for the soccer moms.
Surprised the required number is still so low. Also, I signed the petition, was told my count was accepted, but the tally number is still the same as it was before I signed it... 4969. So I guess that explains why the count is still so low, because they're not really counting everyone's. Argh.
I just wonder who will have the contract to build the underground 9-hole course with 500 foot sky-blue ceilings powered by its own nuclear plant. The game must go on.
Maybe we'll get lucky, and they'll put it under NSA's Bluffdale Date Center.
Past tense baby. Past tense.
Damn straight. You should see the sports complex under DIA. The Tennis Center alone is illuminated like 3 p.m. in summer. Strong, diffuse light, as if the sun were behind a white cloud. They've had a lot of time to make it just perfect, and with LED tech quite cheap to operate.
could paradoxically make the problem worse
We didn't have a problem before the CDC failed to restrict air travel. And if you F'kers would have restricted bankers as well as ebola infected people from getting into this country from Brussels we wouldn't be in the financial mess we are in.
Up to 5,000 now.
Banning flights to/from affected countries isn't enough. the US need to ban people from affected countries catching connecting flights, e.g. the Dallas ebola case travelled to the US via Brussels.
This is how the "Big Brother" gets us to demand our imprisonment .
Rather it's how the average Box Fiend hands over his rights willingly so that things can "stay sorta the same." TV and movies programmed this lot to give it up in times of crisis. What we should try for is a way of exploiting this programming, to free these controlled minds.
People! People People Just relax. Liberals are smarter than you common folk. they know what they are doing. Now go back to the mall and get back on your Aderall
Hey, I didn't know the Texas state and Dallas municipal government and authorities were liberal! Thanks for pointing that out, I gotta admit, though, that it surprised the shit out of me. But at least it's good to know this is all about red team/blue team, and nothing more nefarious using that divide and conquer strategy to keep the general public distracted while their wealth and health and freedom is stolen from them.
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Yes, it is now quite a leftist, TaxEating enclave. One of their prized leaders, Wiley Price, is finally under criminal indictment. He once caused quite a stir because a white councilman likened the disappearance of taxpayer's money to a "black hole." Did you know that was a racist reference? It is according to another urban black Bolshevik.
long term capital management. good luck.
Some good news:
The two patients recently admitted to Washington D.C. area hospitals and the one in Hawaii with ebola-like symptoms and travel histories are reported to NOT have ebola. Still at one known case in the US, so far. Just keeping things in perspective.
http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/rockville/2014/10/03/shady-grove-p...
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Patient-With-Ebola-Like-Symptoms...
http://www.wjhl.com/story/26693464/hawaii-ebola-scare-was-a-good-test-ru...
"Authorities said the plane's crew and its roughly 250 remaining passengers stayed onboard for about 90 minutes while the man received medical treatment, then were allowed to leave."
Just fucking great. So you're flying on a plane and some dude from Liberia starts vomiting all over the place, putting micro aerosol particles in the air, which, if you're lucky enough not to sustain a direct hit, are then sucked up into the plane's air recirculation system, and recirculated throughout the plane to all the other passengers who are forced to sit there for two hours while they wait for the CDC to come on board in fucking hazmat suits and take him off. Then, after exposing everyone else to the Ebola virus for two fucking hours (who hasn't gotten sick after being on a plane), they tell everyone to go home. The blind are leading the fucking blind here. What a clusterfuck. It might be time to stop flying. Airline stocks will get pummeled.
Yep, a whole planeload of transmission vectors to carry the disease out into the world. Amazing how quickly they were able to determine that it wasn't ebola. I thought the test took longer than 90 minutes. I'm just glad it was Newark. There's a chance one of those poor bastards will be in south Manhattan over the next 28 days. Lets see if 'mark to fantasy' balance sheet fraud, access to insider information, and monetary and social privilege are sufficient to prevent viral infection.
Maybe this was a plane full of stocktraders and bankers, that would be great
From Liberia? Don't get your hopes up.
Ok, so maybe they were a plane load IMF lackys and ISIS mercs on R&R?
One can dream.
It wasnt that big a problem when it was a malaysian airlines flight, they might be dissapeared...... but h? whats the worst can happen, no?
Ebola in the American country is as real as Swine Flu 2009 was.
Swine Flu 2009, fake. Sandy Hook, fake. Boston bombing, fake. So Ebola 2014 must be real. LOL
An American, not US subject.
"I see dead sheeple."
hurricane sandy not a fake. ebola the diseae not a fiction.
"Sandy Hook" is the school and false-flag not a hurricane.
An American, not US subject.
Over 4,000 people have signed it in three days? You don't say? In Europe, any petition to save zoo orcas gets that amount in half a day. Either the Americans are less scared than we would think, or they're even more scared of leaving their e-mail adress to the US governement than of Ebola.
.5 day make it 10 minutes
petitions
petitions
ha bloody ha
is that sum kinda rabbi joke.
clearly these petition muppets do not udderstand the drill
they have been rothschilds chosen to die.
why make a noise just crawl into a pit and await you fait fate cattle
Y'know... The more boring and repetitive a noise, the less people actually hear it, it just fades into the background and is ignored.
I'm assuming that's your plan.
1971 that was the year your mom should have aborted
what a shame the bitch cursed the rest of us : )
Hey, Pagliacci, it seems more and more ZH'rs find your inane rants... well, inane.
C'mon, Bob. You are obviously witty, yet you continue to beat the same old drums. Rothchilds, Murdoch, blah, blah, blah.
And that played hick dialogue you use in an attempt to be funny; well, it's as worn out as your message.
You're obviously an abused Jew, exorcising your childhood buggery demons with your rants.
I've seen a lot of abused Catholics do the same thing.
Just remember, there are chemicals that can make you feel all better. You should take a whole bottle of them at once. That would make you (and the rest of us) feel much better.
dryed up minge
i will never get tired of that
try some lard you can collect it near the drains of your local slaughter house.
lard and minge a talmudick combination
You are of the powerless, the hopeless, the rat living on the waste of your Jewish Masters, at least in your head.
I never get tired of it either. Your consistent display of idiocy never ceases to amuse me. I do have to tip my hat to your persistence. Most schizophrenics tire after a short while because other phantoms draw their attention. Or... the paranoid ones become obsessed on one topic, like BTK.
Give them a miniscule amount of credit. At least they care enough to be worried about their own health and welfare to click a link. They probably never gave shit about anyone else before and maybe still don't. But at least they stopped watching football long enough to do something other than be a complete zombie.
please find Jesus Christ. you are clearly in a lot of pain. He helped me. He can help anyone.
Don't mention Jesus Christ, you'll risk at least a figurative beheading from the ZH Left-Handers of London and Dearborn.
and from the zio jew crew of the interwebs...
peoples opinions come and go. the truth is forever.
I'd rather be a blasphemer than a zealot.
life is like being locked in a dark room. i have bumped into furniture and found dead ends. now i found the door. i believe that my analysis is correct that everything that came out of Jesus's mouth if followed would increase a persons righteousness. the only real enemy any one has ever had is not other people, but the accuser. Jesus freed us from the accuser. don't take my word for it. falsify it by running the experiment yourself if you want. but be warned following Jesus takes total commitment.
also, if a person doesn't understand the problem, then it is unlikely that he will recognize the solution. the problem is difficult to understand. it is necessary to do your own analysis, because what appears simplistic as a solution is actually very skillfully done.
the trivium: Definitions, logic, applications. when you change the definition the other two must change.
well, my life is my experiment. i will continue collecting data. so good so far.
isis threatens to bring ebola to US.
http://www.vocativ.com/world/isis-2/isis-ebola-threat/?utm_campaign=Octo...
isis and ebola a coupling straight from murdoch his partners at genie energy are clearly desperate to get drilling on the syrian golan.
even saturn time cannot stop for satanic rothschild
Nice reference to Semetic Saturn worship. Spend much time on the Internet?
Ooh.. their Sabbath is on Satur(n)day. 666's all around the star of David. Knowledge of the Northern pole of Saturn...
I can see why you're afraid of them and why you've made it your mission to fix the whole thing by vomiting stupidity (self-perceived as wit) on an off the beaten path blog. I suppose it's here that you can find a half dozen people to give you the validation you so desperately seek.
Godspeed. Asshole.
minge nothing worse than a fanny smelling of gefeltafish
No, your upper lip bubby.
I suppose you'd be the expert in such things.
I think you struck a nerve, Mr. Wilson.
Now I know the CIA and Mossad are behind ISIS. With each beheading and now this, they are trying to maximize the terror level, and thereby increase our capacity to seek bloody revenge and either kill others, or support that killing with out tax dollars.
Does anyone know where the CIA hangs out?
Not the suits, but the operational guys.
TGI Fridays. Sometimes Waffle House.
Nobody in Israel or the ISIS HQ has obola yet. Just saying.
When the last flights out of west Africa are known you can be sure the price for a seat will be high.
A good indication when that will occure is when the airlines are at oneway volume capacity, empty return flights.
Ha ha, and zero is sending 5,000 troops down there !!
Man this funny shit. No way can you make up shit this funny :)
When the fist golfer drops dead, Obola will become curious.
FEMA isn't even prepared. Relesed memo from yesterday.
http://www.oig.dhs.gov/assets/pr/2014/oigpr_100114a.pdf
EXCERPTS;
"After spending $247 million"
" May not be able to deliver emergency supplies to survivors of a catastrophic disaster"
"system developed over 9 years can't interface with it's parnters and suppliers"
"They don't have enough trained employees to operate the system"
"Supply chain system is not up to task"
So much for them FEMA camps Eh?
Did FEMA peeps get a bonus last year?
FEMA death Kamp is the old model.
Ebola is cheap.
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This whole Ebola fiasco is going to destroy Chistmas shopping. Heck, last year we got snow that damaged shopping. Damn, we just can't get a break. Shouldn't that be worth at least 2000+ points on the Dow?
Wouldn't it be nice to start a petition to DEFUND the CDC and lay off every one of those political appointees - after the travel bans of course.
What's the point of a level 4 biocontainment lab when the whole world is your petri dish?
http://i.imgur.com/vPwuonv.png
http://i.imgur.com/FPaRvbu.png
Listen to NPR - you'll find many in the progressive camp who believe it's important that there's a big outbreak in the United States - that way resources will be devoted to battling the disease that otherwise would not. They'd see thousands of Americans die and families suffer if it better suits their vision of social justice. This is Obama to a tee. We're not special, We must be made to suffer and payback the world for our imperialism. He has no interest in preventing an outbreak in the US. He favors it.
Say what you want about President Obama, but if you ACTUALLY think he favors an American Ebola outbreak then your a fucking idiot.
It's not just him Silver, it's every Zio-owned, NWO puppet of the enlightened new satanic age. It's painfully clear Clinton, Bush Obama and their admins have done everything to tear down the fabric of the United States just in the last few decades. I don't need to give specifics, if you don't know you haven't been paying attention.
But this Ebola crisis is deadly, and it has had real implications since the begining of the current crisis because it has infected whole major cities and it's getting worse, not better. To act so cavalierly, then use inane and circular logic on why they are holding the borders open when the stakes are so high, only means ONE THING:
THEY WANT IT HERE.
I dunno.
If there's one thing I've learned in my short time on Earth, it's never to mistake stupidity for intent.
Or laziness. I just hope you are right and I'm wrong.
I do think that. I think he will look for a way to hold America and capitalism responsible for this ebola outpreak. This outbreak is strikingly more communicable than any previous outbreak. My bet is that as the numbers in the US increase, which is of course inevitable now, there will be a claim that the increasedvirulence is likely the result of global climate change.
That's why a clear mind can understand that the Obamanation is an alien entity and needs to be 'steriiilizzzed."
I'm surprised the "terrorists" don't send some suicide Ebola infectors to the US.
5:37 CST it now says there are 211 signatures, they are punking us bad, in your face bitchez, Emperor Palpatine says FUCK YOU!
There are FIVE separate petitions to ban flights on the WH web site. that might be the problem.
Ha, that would have been helpful to know.... Oh well bamster still hates our Conservative/Libertarian/ Classic liberal/Anarchistic guts, so the Palpatine jab stands...
Dr. Thomas Frieden is responsible. we have a name and face.
Lets just call it like it is, The President, The white house, Congress, and the CDC are all incompetent baboons.
Its a shame what has happened to this country, completely down the tubes, the leadership can't even make ONE SIMPLE decision for the betterment of the country, its all greed and destroy and let die and million dollar golf outings.
Notice how the release says the passengers are not contagious, but doesn't say they don't have Ebola. I take that to mean that they probably have Ebola, but don't worry because the other passengers weren't in any danger.