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90's child thanks for admonishing that ignorant one. Jeez they are so prevelant its like a swarm of flies. And they eat carion and breed like flies too. I wake up thankful every day that even though in their minds they are eternal and invincible, secretly their body decays against their will. Every day their stomach digests one meal closer to its last. We can all be merrily thankful that death cometh and clean these religious swine from our presence. Hell does not deserve them, they'd make it a more miserable place. Only the maggots and bugs deserve them, and only barely so. Good riddance religious scum. Your death will be followed by singing and dancing in the streets. Good riddance
Ha ha! You worship atheism. Wow, so full of hate. You have issues. Wishing death upon someone who disagrees with you, is that who you are?
Don't like your own medicine Christian? Good because its going to start coming in doses. White sepulcher, viper, humanoid freak
When Jesus returns, I will call him out of the crowd and as he walks up to me I will strike him in the chest with my knife and watch him bleed out
You do that shuckster and let us know how it works out.
Now, let's talk about the meds you are supposed to be taking.
it will work out superbly because the day will never come
YOU seriously write like a manic depressive on a hypermanic run. I am not kidding and I do have an idea of what I am talking about. Seriously, go get some meds or a diagnosis.
He bled out for you once already. If you could ever understand that, you might begin to understand Truth. Cling to your pride and there will be a different outcome. When He returns, you will be hiding somewhere begging the rocks to fall on you so that you don't have to face him.
may your stomach grumble with discomfort and your kids disown you and may you live a life of anxiety and restlessness and may your car burn with you in tow
"Objectively", though.....right?
Nice...Temple of Set member?
shitster, atheism requires you to smoke meth and crack mixed before posting on zh?
no my hate is organically grown thanks to your sort, you amebae. You shapeless goop, formless muck that reaks of death and rot
no my hate is organically grown thanks to your sort, you amebae. You shapeless goop, formless muck that reaks of death and rot
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You really come off like someone who's ran a flippin' experiment and has the data. Well, let's see the results and then repeat it.
You really fit the "arrogant prick" moniker very well. But that's what atheists have to be to convince themselves that their lack of metaphysics is really not metaphysics. The belief that there is no belief is still a belief.
I'll be happy to agree that there are too many slaves to religion, but let's see you prove how you showed up here ex nihlo.
The universe is a big place, much bigger then the human mind can understand, yet we have opinions about it anyway. lol
There is what humans knows, at best, call it a point.
There is the rest of what humans do not know, at least, call it infinity.
But we're pretty smug about what we know in any case, call it because human.
And yet some ancient goat herders claim that some Guy in the Sky made the Universe in 1 day, but slacked off and made one tiny planet in 5 days, before "resting" on the 7th.
Judging by everything I see and read, he's still resting. LOL.
You know what's even funnier and more ironic? People won't believe Logic, math, facts or common sense, but they'll "believe" dusty scrolls that were written by unvetted, uneducated animal herders of "questionable hygiene". Oh the irony, the irony. ROTFLMAO.
He created Adam, wang-included, but with no place to stick it. And he said, Doh!, I need to invent the pussy, and a life support system for it, so blammo he created Eve!
I think you're confusing organized religion with god and spirituality. two different concepts, might want to look into it. Because at the end of the day something or someone created you. And that my friend is your god whether you like it or not.
exactly
Mom + Dad =/= God
"People don't like atheists cause they can't come to terms with the fact that there is no god and their life becomings meaningless."
No. People don't like atheists because they tend to be overbearing, know-it-all and full of themselves. As for entertaining unshakable certainties, they're as bad as the most backward redneck Protestants.
"No. People don't like atheists because they tend to be overbearing, know-it-all and full of themselves. As for entertaining unshakable certainties, they're as bad as the most backward redneck Protestants".
What says "overbearing, know-it-all and full of themselves" better than the usual statements and attitudes of Christians? They believe that they understand the ultimate truth of the world, and that those who don't, will spend an eternity in hell after death. Whereas, they envision a paradise for themselves with loved ones as a reward for living in accordance with Christ's teachings. What a narrow minded, judgemental, load of horse shit.
I suppose if you had been born in India, you would not be a Hindu? You would have had the wisdom to recognize the truth of Christianity, and reject the dominant religion as false? You would have resisted all attempts by family, friends, acquaintances, and co-workers to become a person of Christian faith? Saying that is unlikely to have happened is an understatement.
But what they understand is that they are sinners, in need of salvation. How is that "full of themselves"? I mean, yes Christians hold to an exclusive truth claim which rules out other possiblities, but don't almost ALL truth claims do that? And the athiest, well, their claims nullify EVERY other truth claim for those who say their is a diety of any sort. PS lots of Christians in India now. About 2.3%, better than on the faculty of some American universities!
Excellent point regarding exclusive truth claims. I cannot definitively prove or disprove the existence of a god. That's why I don't accept the label of atheist for myself, or Christian, Muslim, Hindu, etc. for that matter. From my perspective, once you commit fully to a single point of view, you necessarily dismiss countless others.
You take where you start and you work out from there. I could argue the same thing for science, philosophy or any other discipline. The question is whether you care to consider or discover something new. Plus, the common denominator is that there are no known atheist cultures until modern times. Perhaps it is a sixth sense that there is more to life.
People don't like atheists because atheists are overwhelming nasty, arrogant, angry elitists. It is not an accident that atheists have had the very worst societies and empires in history. There are very few Penn Gillete types atheists whom I like.
What I will assert is that atheists are attracted to it because it appeals to arrogance and elitism. In a single instant by proclaiming atheism you become smarter than everyone in the room who believes in the invisible gods. You don't have to study, reason, or think very much. You just laugh at the invisible.
On top of that atheists go out of their way to be insulting. You really don't see Christians with ads saying that Buddha, Krishna, the tree gods or even Mohammed are fakes. No one goes out of their way to be insulting despite conflicting belief systems. In general, most Christian pastors, priests and others would be willing to sit down and trade ideas with a Buddhist while still arguing their own beliefs.
Atheists take out billboards against Christmas or generally Christian faith across the country. They are in court demanding removal of Christmas scenes and so on. In real life when in power they are only a hair more tolerant of other religions than ISIS and make atheism the official State religion. In general, they are hostile and that tends not to make friends. You join or you fight them much like militant Islamists. Apart from libertarian atheists they tend not to be live and let live.
It is also not an accident that leftist-statist-collectivist-autocrats tend to be atheists in name or functionally.
It is likely there is an afterlife and just because you don't understand it or cannot grasp it does not make it a fact for everyone else. Perhaps you don't understand concepts like 11, 12 or 13 possible dimensions and do not believe in those either.
Cherish this life, yes but consider the possibilities of a next life. It is possible we are not just incredibly complex self sustaining accidental chemical reactions.
I find it funny that atheists always attack Christianity, but remain absolutely silent on Judaism.
Saying that there is no God is STUPID, MORONIC, PATHETIC, IGNORANT and ARROGANT. Scientists agree now that the world must have been created. Scientificaly you can not produce energy from no energy. Only God can do that.
Actually you can create energy from mass.
E = MC^2
As demonstrated by Robert Oppenheimer in New Mexico back in 1945.
And what created the mass?
The real question that is always avoided is what created god.
virtual particle
A short-lived subatomic particle whose existence briefly violates the principle of conservation of energy. The uncertainty principle of quantum mechanics allows violations of conservation of energy for short periods, meaning that even a physical system with zero energy can spontaneously produce energetic particles. The more energy a virtual particle has, the shorter its existence. Interactions between normal particles and virtual particles play a crucial role in quantum field theory analyses of interactions between real particles. See also Casimir effect Feynman diagram vacuum fluctuation
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/virtual+particles
It had to be God, there is no other answer!
Actually you can create energy from mass.
E = MC^2
As demonstrated by Robert Oppenheimer in New Mexico back in 1945.
Uhhh - The formula says that E requires both Mass AND Velocity? What is the proper term for Mass that has Velocity?
"c" refers to the speed of light on vacuum.
Come back when you have a real degree, little boy. This is Fight Club.
90's:
No, people don't like atheists because the hardcore ones (the ones that are most publicized) are no better than the rabid evangelical Christians or the hardcore Jews or the fantatical Muslim sects. All of them try to force their set of beliefs (and yes, atheism is a belief system) on everyone else. Since this is still a majority Judeo-Christian country, it makes sense that atheists and Muslims would be at the low end of acceptance. Any group that is seen as being over-the-top is usually going to rank low on the popularity scale.
Me? I'm not religious, as I think religion has been the cause of many, MANY more problems than it has solved. I am spiritual and I like to think I am logical. Stephen Hawking and his theories aside, I haven't been able to adequately explain to myself how the universe could come to be without something sparking it. I had always thought that preservation of matter was a founding scientific concept. If that's the case, then all the matter of the Big Bang had to come from somewhere, so I come to a logical conclusion that there's got to be something pulling strings other than Big Finance, because even though they can swing the creation of vast amounts of 0's and 1's in computers around the world, I think the creation of actual matter is a little out of their area of expertise.
But, I could be wrong. I don't pretend to know all the answers, but I'll keep looking.
@Bay Area Guy.
This is just not true.... Buddhists are Athiest. Show me ONE Theraveda Buddhist that fits this silly description you provide....
Isn't ignorance bliss though?
Cheers
I like your post, Bay Area. That is approximately where I am at. It is also okay to say you don't know but you believe in the sense that something is probably true.
Myself, I like prob and stats. There are no probabitilites where inanimate matter organizes itself spontaneously into ever more complex, nearly infinitely complex forms over time, any time period. Matter seeks the lowest simplest energy levels. The fossil record is an uninterrupted string of successes for a couple billion years. Everything moves up in complexity with no apparent failures and no visible randomness. It is akin to finding a Volkwagen on Mars or conversely a robot appearing from a foreign part of the universe. We would not ask how they evolved. We would look for who made them.
I myself do not pretend to know the whole story but I think I can interpret it's significance.
Most of us have our suspicions but are still waiting on the proof. The thing is we never know the truth until its too late. Lots of deathbed conversions. Its a sad fact of life that as we get older there is less and less truth except the admission of our own ignorance. Everything comes to doubt. In my mind only those who absolutely believe are ignorant. In this world how can there be absolutes except for the lazy mind. Peace be with us all and spend less time trying to analyze the faults of others and maybe focus a little more on our own. It shouldn't be that hard in a world with so many self-centered people.
There are actually answers to some of the doubts and there is a rationale as to why there is so little direct intervention in life. However, it depends on your source.
My bottom line is that God must be both rational and compassionate. He must be rational or it will be impossible for us to understand Him or even please Him or follow any moral code. If He is essentially like the mercurial gods of old who are generally morally as corrupt as manking then there is no point. God must be compassionate as well. Any absolute standard will find us all consistently on the punishment end of life. Just as we have compassion on lower life forms it must be so for us.
Without those two characteristics, I am not much interested.
Mostly I agree. I'd take issue with the idea of equating radical muslims with jews or evangelical Christians, though. The former kills people. Often. Today. In very public ways. The latter two as a rule do not. I'd also quibble with the assertion that religion in general causes more problems than it solves. Undoubtedly it causes many problems...specifically the fact that the major religions have such sharp differences causes problems. But we can't know what problems it has solved. We know of many...but many others were probably solved with no real record of it. Plus religion is one of the major tools man used to be able to live together in large groups. Hard to put a value on that kind of utility.
Oh, and it's been my experience that saying one is "spiritual but not religious" is a cop out and not possible without mental gymnastics I don't have time for. I used to feel that way myself and I won't say I couldn't ever come around to that position again...I've been Christian and then not and then something else and then not again and now Christian again. My views change as I gather more evidence while going through life. But right now it just doesn't work to claim to be spiritual unless there is some sort of spirit you're interested in, and that's kind of the definition of religion.
Your mind is so open, your brains are falling out!
<-----Former aethiest
One can still not explain order spontaneously arising from disorder to cause things called life. Also, energy can never cease to exist, it merely changes from one form to another.
This is a silly conclusion....
You use something that cannot be proven to prove something you cannot explain?
Sounds like voodoo to me.........
Cheers
Spoken by someone who can prove EVERYTHING!
What a maroon!
I can explain nothing. Humans are the most loving and compassionate yet evil and murderous life form on this planet. We are the most intelligent and creative while being the absolutely dumbest and most self destructive life form. We are an enigma. We can believe in a loving god and yet kill those who do not, because they do not, and then call it a religion of peace. There are no solutions to this "condition" and yet people have been trying and killing to prove there are solutions throughout our history.
Atheists don't like theists because they can't come to terms with the fact that there is a God and their life has consequences. Doomed to be a slave to vanity and pride.
Free yourself from dogmatic disbelief and you'll see that this life matters all the more since your actions will echo in eternity.
@RET
ignorance is overwhelming....
Buddhists are Athiest and they live through doing good and bad karma. Buddhist understand that if you do good karma, you will get good things back and thus if you do bad karma, you will get bad returns.
You may want to educate your self about the truth before you make comments about athiests like this....
Cheers
They are not at all atheists in the sense that atheists deny all spiritual beliefs, any afterlife or anything like a soul or even karma. Ultimately, atheists even deny the whole idea of good and evil as they are a religious construct. Have you ever been to the East and seen actual Buddhist practices?
@FreedomGuy - If you want to change the definition of atheists then you are correct but denying all spiritual beliefs is not the definition of a non atheist. The Buddha was very clear about the fact there was no God or higher being and he specifically taught that your there is no "good and evil" but rather there is Karma and consequences or action/reaction to everything a person does. By doing good merits or things that are percieved as "good", positive results would come back to the person that performed the action.
In the purest sense, Buddhism is athiest at the core but they practice ceremonies to help a person stay "focused" on doing "Good Karma". If these ceremonies and rituals are what you refer to as "spirituatlity" then that is correct that they are spiritual.
They do not pray. They do not believe in Evil or Good. They do believe that the karma that they do in this life will determine their next life but they do not believe in any God and that is the definition of an Athiest.....
If you want, there is enough information that is easily found doing simple searches... I have been studying this for years now.
Cheers.
oh yeah... and yes, I have been there and around. Currently I am there!
:)
Sheeple are bred and conditioned to always be kissing somebody's ass.
They just can't accept that there is no deity, whose Ass they won't have to kiss for all eternity, rather than enjoy the blessed release and eternal peace of Oblivion.
Besides... shamans and rulers have figured out that 99% need either a Carrot (Heaven) or a Stick (Hell) to toe the line, and to not kill the rich and the rulers, since mere Reason and Cold Logic does not "compute" in their brains.
I like you!
I also believe that after death there is nothing.
People just reincarnate.
Watch the video below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNqHENNmChU&feature=player_embedded
I was one of those guys who put gasoline in PBY!
Died and was born again in 1962.
:-)
A gift to you old like me, reincarnated several times on this earth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E438ZsGIKrQ
:-)
Ooops!
Not an atheist!
Spiritualist yes!
There is a large and stark difference!
hehe.
@Kario
Buddhists are Athiest and they also believe this concept. They believe that we are all connected and merely change containers upon death.
we're all waiting for Godot. The question is, how do we kill the time until he shows up?
Dear 90's child,
I was born in 1960. So, if I can weigh in a bit:
It is not the absence of God itself that is scary.
More fearful is the thought that your superego may not survive your death.
God and all that paraphernalia are created specifically for you to forget that!
Dear 90's child,
I was born in 1960. So, if I can weigh in a bit:
It is not the absence of God itself that is scary.
More fearful is the thought that your superego may not survive your death.
God and all that paraphernalia are created specifically for you to forget that!
Dear 90's child,
I was born in 1960. So, if I can weigh in a bit:
It is not the absence of God itself that is scary.
More fearful is the thought that your superego may not survive your death.
God and all that paraphernalia are created specifically for you to forget that!
@Child.....
You make an interesting comment and show your ignorance.....
Buddhist's are Athiest!
Cheers
People don't like atheists because they belong to the religion of Atheism.
"There is no forgiveness, second chances or afterlife."
Well I am glad you can tell me that with 100% certainty!
I don't like atheist because they are the only one trying to shit on my religion and convince me that their religion (atheism) is better them mine. You see, I have yet to see any mulslim try to do the same to me.
Yes, atheist is a religion. It is based in the belief that no god exist. If you want to be a smart ass at least be agnostic (having no idea in one way or the other if god exist).
Or maybe people don't like atheists because such a large percentage of them are smug, condescending pricks who can't brook the possibility that their point of view might not be as correct as others. I've met a couple of atheists who seem like really great people whose kids I'd be fine letting my kid hanging out with. But only a couple.
I love discussing anesthetists with Christians, especially the evangelical ones.
The hypocrisy grows thick like moss and the cognitive dissonance is quite humorous.
An American, not US subject.
"All's forgiven except those that don't believe."
Note: I am a Christian believer not "pusher" or "Lemming."
hard to believe, disappointing, that your comment would yield so many negative votes.
Bibliomancy is a helluva drug.
People don't like atheist because atheists can't STFU and leave others in peace. Not believing in God, religion, or anything else is a choice as is the opposite. Get over it some people want to live a life different from atheism e.g. ISIS. I will take atheists seriously when they go after Islam. Remember when U of Michigan installed foot washing facilities for Muslim students at state expense? Is that to be considered state sponsorship of religion. Atheists are not the most intelligent people after all just bullies and cowards.
The "no God" perspective requires a personal denial of the historical documentation of the life of Jesus Christ.
Its ok, lets just call it what it is.
I went through a phase of this in college, but the evidence in favor of His life being an actual historical event, along with his execution under the historical documented Roman ruler Pontus Pilate causes reconsideration.
Here we have a Jewish state under Roman Rule and the Jewish leaders persuade the Roman Ruler to execute a rebel.
All his followers go into hiding for a short season out of terrible fear of similar execution.
But then his followers reappear, the same individuals, and proclaim the most incredible outlandish account of Christ risen from the grave.
(WTF!!! right?)
So these same followers are so adamant about their conviction this event took place they are no longer afraid of what the Jewish religious leaders will do to neither them *stone them for blasphemy) nor the Romans who like to get gruesome.
In recorded histories from this era we have writings that the Romans and Jews put these followers to death, and in cruel and unusual ways.
Throughout history men have died for causes they believed in. communism, fascism, liberty, Islam, etc.
Men will dies for a cause they believe in, no matter how misguided. Men will die for something they believe is true.
Men will die for their country when the choice is to be shot by your own officers, or take you chances with the "enemy"
But Men will not die for a lie when they know it is a lie,(except maybe for their own children or dearest loved one eg. Dickens- Tale of Two Cities fictional account)
So we are left with the question, What drove the original followers of this Jesus all proclaim his life after death event?
If it was all a lie they could recant and avoid the heinous slow death by roman execution, or being tossed in the arena with wild animals or being stoned as a blasphemer by their own Jewish peers. No one coerced them to go through the humiliation and death of being a member of this new sect. These folks voluntarily accepted outcast and persecution and hideous forms of execution rather than recant their outlandish claim about Jesus Christ.
The original followers of Christ are historically documented outside the bible in the Jewish Historical writings of Josephus’s (circa 70 AD) and in Roman documents as having been put to death for this proclamation of Jesus status as not dead, and of some great importance to the next life for all of us.
The death of the early followers is a testimony which must be considered.
This is just one example of the cause for a Historical Jesus Christ being the objection to a “No God” theory.
If we on ZH claim to be enlightened and intellectual, able to see past the BS of the media and government we need to also be able to make a logical investigation into this historical account.
There is a small easy to read book by an author who set out to disprove the account of Christ’s life but was overwhelmed with the evidence in favor of his life. It literally sickened him to learn that all his atheist views he held so dear could not stand up to the evidence.
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/313631.More_Than_a_Carpenter
Before we refute the existence of God further, I would humbly submit we take a look at the concepts put forth in this book, and if someone can win a debate against each and every topics the author presents we have a starting point on the plausible deniability of the existence of deity.
Above Post is a Dupe - and a Proselytizing Message.
Going to remember the participants in this thread. An acid test who can be taken seriously on ZH and who not. Those who could not free their intellect from a man-made construct to suppress the sheeple are too easily persuaded to believe in most other bullshit as well.
All religions are founded on the fear of the many and the cleverness of the few.
Believers are atheists in all but their own god; true atheists just go one god further.
Actually the reason why people don't like atheists is because too many atheists push their own brand of religion to replace Christianity et al. EXAMPLE: Global Warming.
Global warming is pushed with all the zeal of missionaries by the lefty Monks of the Church of Global Warming Tax to our Cash.
However I know the answer to the question: What is the opposite of love? Hint: it is not hate. It is apathy.
The fact liberals show hate towards religion merely signifies they still believe in it. Only diff is it has to be THEIR religion. Funny how that works with libtards. ( send your dollar today! )
In Europe, the EU is putting serious money behind movies. If you check out the movies which get the funds, you will find perhaps 50% of them portray Jews in ultra-sympathetic or victim mode. Give me a break!
Here are just a couple of movies I watched in Australia this past week:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gloomy_Sunday (Hungarian)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Year_My_Parents_Went_on_Vacation (Brazilian)
I have yet to see a single movie that shows what Palestine was like before the Zionists stole it in 1948.
There is much "stolen" land. That includes pretty much all of north america.
I actually have an anti jew friend who goes on about Isreal being stolen land. I reply: ok then what about USA and Indians?
His reply: Oh they were dirty savages!
My reply: So what if even they were????
You anti jewish people don't impress me with your logic.
FU, anti-Semite!
How many times this week, have we all seen a Jewish talking head, interviewing a Jewish Doctah, on a Jewish owned network about the future health of a nation? Looks like HH struck a nerve, but it's called the truth.
Can't recall, but I've sure seen some n------ talking heads talking to an n------ President about an n------ Attorney General needing some time off. And then the n----- President talks about how we need to keep people coming in from all the n----- African countries where all the n------- are dying from ebola.
Maybe we should just concede that stupidity and evil can cross all racial and ethnic boundaries.
Or is mankind simply predisposed to hate "Jews" even if the only thing Jewish about them is a last name.
Naggers?
Naggers?
Naggers?
Can you provide one or are you going to just spew anti semitism and hate?
you guys are tiring. that word is abused to the point that when i hear it i ignore it and immediately connote the user as an asshole regardless of who it might be.
it might help if you confined its use to relevant issues instead of any utterance you don't like the truth of.
Here's an old but good joke:
8 guys named Goldman, Silverstone, Rubyfeld, Diamond, Finklestein, Bamberger , Schlomo & Israel walk into a top notch Manhattan restaurant.
There are not too many anti-semetic people on ZH. Anti-Zionist Talmudic Jew, yes, a lot of us are anti-Zionist Talmudic Jew.
I am Jewish by ancestry through my mother's family.
I was raised Catholic, though, and now belong to no organized religion (Hey, just like Thoreau & Emerson!).
Many Jews (both secular & non) have labeled me as an anti-Semite in the past because I dared criticize Israel, the Jewish Lobby, etc.
I am self-hating Jew, or so I've been informed.
If Jews/Hebrews were perfect, why does God have to blast them so much? Read the "Old Testament" - and see how often "God's Chosen People needed God to bail them out of their trouble/errors, and punish them for their blasphemy!
I have a theory: Money is the closest thing to a religion for a higher % of Jews than most other people (think about the Old Testament worship of a golden calf) partly because Jews are among a minority of people who do not
believe in Heaven or Hell or any afterlife, for that matter.
Jews literally believe that when someone dies, that's the end of the road, period; no spirit, soul or consequences. The body rots in the ground.
Similarly, this is why there is so much wailing & moaning at Jewish burials.
I haven't read much of the old testament since I was 17, but even at that age, I remember thinking most of the hype and arm waving about the sinners on the coast (Tyre and Sidon) was just poorly disguised envy by some pathetic old sheep herder.
That's the part I can certainly agree with: when it's over, it's over.
This Christian business of an Afterlife, dovetailed the needs of Roman emperors quite nicely, as it helped to control the Masses: perpetual Hope that Justice would be done "eventually".
Are you related to George Soros by chance?
If God is real, he would've showed up already. Now we know he's not. If Jesus were real, he would've showed up already. Now we know he is not. If Yahweh were real, he would've smitten Israel's enemies, but he has not. Now we know he is not real. If Allah were real, we know he would've by now smitten Islam's enemies, yet he has not. So now we know that all three (and they are all the same) are not real. We only know of two things which are always true, fair, and justice, and that is truth and light. But since truth and light are the same thing, we know that light is all that is real. Since light is real and true we know that we must respect it, but if we worship other things, then we are not. Therefore, all religious people are heretical and heinous. Their words are lies, their eyes are just glass balls. They have no soul, they are lifeless vessals, put on this world to torture and haunt and harass the just and the good. But we know that all machines have their maladies so we can disassemble these machine robots or we can deprive them or energy or necessitants. Surely, we shouldn't act slowly, for they are pervasive
Not really.
Do the test again in Europe and Jews and Muslims score the same at the bottom.
Americans like those who kill woman and children. Not so in Europe.
Indeed. It's just that European "peace keepers" just stand by and watch people get butchered (e.g., in Srbrenica).
I'm not saying Europe is the good guy here :) AT ALL!!
When you're in trouble, you know who your friends are when they show up to help you out.
If I where to relly on Europe for help, I'd be scared shitless.
We are scared of risk and when you don't take risk, you end up in the shit we're in now.
Half my city has turned into a refuse camp for muslims in the last decade.
I was with my dad in the car going to the city this morning and while we where driving through the ring of the city, I slowed down so we could have a better look and man... I'm used to drive through pretty fast normally but when you look you see the pure decay of the city.
We'll have a muslim war in the next 50 years and it will be fought in our streets.
You're good! :-)
I don't know if it's true, but I heard that there are parts of Brussels that not even the police will enter.
A sad state of affairs (in your city and elsewhere).
rubbish.
most muslims and jews dont support killing women and children, and just want to live their lives in peace.
just like most american christians don't - or do you think christians are guilty because of this:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-03/what-civilian-casualties-barack...
the notion of collective guilt should be rejected - only specific individuals are guilty of their own actions.
Youtube "American Sniper" and you'll see the perverse glorification of the killing of women and children, packaged in a short preview
Pick up a history book you ignorant fop. How embarrasingly ignorant can a repeated poster be? Europe's history is but with brief interludes a cauldron of war, pogroms, gov't murder. Gawd
So Americans hate athiests as much as Muslims.
Americans are so stupid, they probably think not believing in all that 2000 year old garbage is actually a religion.
Keep in mind, everyone is one mythological fantisy religion away from being athiest.
We are all athiests, some just need a little more encouragement. I suggest starting with some of Richard Dawkins books.
I read them and they are puerile and arrogant. Somehow, I get why you would like them.
Dawkins is as bland as paint drying on a wall.
George Carlin is a much better teacher, lol.
I loved Carlin as a kid, but he ended his life an angry bitter guy, albeit still pretty funny and able to see things from a different perspective. He never found peace for himself. It seems to be the curse of many a comedian. They often have something broken inside themselves and humor is a temporary antidote or fix.
"So Americans hate athiests as much as Muslims."
There are two kinds of polls: polls taken to find out what people think, and polls taken to tell people what to think. This one looks like one of the latter.
I've seen too many miracles not to believe, as far as that goes. God is real.
hedgeless_horseman In USA we tend to judge a man by his work, how hard he works, if he works, if he takes welfare, if he is a Veteran, if he is liked, if he is respected for something like being smart or well educated or if he comes out on top.
Not sure this article says anything.
Yeah, in Middle School and as a teenager there were people that used religion to judge people...
Probably I am making it too simple. We have many biases and we make many personal judgements at the same time.
I find Catholics can be very competitive and sharply judgmental to a fault... sometimes anyway. But we have to respect them for coming out on top and having discipline.
Work, Type of work, Religion, Respect, appearance, speech,...
"Who is more likely to own mass media?"
The 0.01%. Money has nothing to do with religion.
Notice how this list does not have secret societies
Polling done by Finklestein, greenburg and Steinberg
- “You have to believe in yourself. ” Sun Tzu
How the group representing 1.7% of the population but who are in decisive ownership and control of the nations media has convinced the other groups to love them most and fear them least is perception mastery on the order of Sun Tzu.
The details on the survey are here: http://www.people-press.org/2014/06/26/appendix-3-about-the-surveys/
"Most of the analysis in this report is based on telephone interviews conducted January 23-March 16, 2014 among a randomly selected national sample of 10,013 adults, 18 years of age or older, living in all 50 U.S. states and the District of Columbia (5010 respondents were interviewed on a landline, and 5003 were interviewed on a cellphone, including 2,649 who had no landline telephone)."
Another set of pew research shows rank of religous affiliation of american population.
http://religions.pewforum.org/affiliations
#1 - Evangelical Christian (26.3%)
#2 - Catholic (23.9%)
#3 - Liberal "Mainline Protestant Churches" (18%)
Jews are way down the list with only 1.7% of population.
Who is more likely to be awarded a Nobel prize?
Apparently this is not limited to US citizens. There is no way Catholics could be that high up without including a significant portion of our "guests" from down south.
deleted. moved further down for better fit (to a different response).
And cue anti-semitic diatribesand downvotes about Jews owning this or that.
As an atheist I am offended to be 1 point above a religion that blows crap up, beheads people and stones women/homosexuals. How the hell did that happen?
Relax, it's a compliment.
I give you ten up votes arkady.
Ta hell with western religion.
I guess that makes you a Zionist ?
I didn't know that Atheists came in Zionist but now I know that they hide in all clothes and wear all colors. Spies all, those Zionists. The Pope is probably one too
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Why should you care? After you die it won't matter anyway. Do whatever you like and enjoy, just don't get caught. Lucky atheists don't have to worry about morality and eternal life.
Buddhists are Athiest and they do not live like this or believe this as a culture.....
Exactly, why the hate for athiest? It's not like they go out of their way to kill people and make name for their non religion.
Athiests: Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, I.e. The most notorious megemurderers of the last century.
That could be one reason why.
They polled Jews and illegal aliens, obviously.
Or perhaps they made their list and then rolled dice to generate the numbers "oh a six and a three - that's sixty three"
Besser is' es!
Aetheists ranked almost equal to Muslims? Fuck you "US public", you brainless twats.
I'd hate to be an "Atheist Muslim" then. Really bad rating: "Double-Plus Bad".
;-) ;-)
By definition, almost every religion would consider the other religious to be atheists.
Not at all. They just like to kill each other over whether Jesus dressed with his dick to the left, or to the right.
When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." ...Stephen F Roberts
But with the new core curriculum, you would have 81 and WIN.
A lot atheists are just thick headed and full of themselves and people don't like that . . . always rambling on insulting people for believing in an after-life completely ignoring the centuries of paranormal proof that there is something else going on beyond normal physics, /cause and effect.
Consciousness and Self-Awareness would be impossible without free will, and if all that exists is cause and effect than nothing you do would be a result of your own conscious free will, this implies that matter and physics gives way to the "will of the soul" that posses man (in body).
There has to be something beyond normal physics, it just hasn't been discovered yet.
I compare atheists to people who said it was impossible to fly (before the first plane took off the ground) and people who thought electricity was evil.
You just have not reached a state of awareness yet to allow you perceive the reality that something beyond your normal day to day control exists ;)
And the difference between most atheists and religious people is, the religious person will not actively go out of their way to prove you wrong (most of the time) but the atheist will go to extra-ordinary lengths to try and convince you not to believe in something that takes little to no effort to believe in.
That's about all I have to say on the topic.
Ignorance of the law is as unavoidable as ignorance of the universe yet both are seen as unacceptable.
Atheism has nothing to do with belief in a soul or the possiblity of an afterlife. Buddhists are the ultimate "afterlifers" but are also atheists.
Don't worry about atheists, according to them they shall soon cease to exist.
Buddhists are athiest.....
who are they insulting these days?
How do they fit your description exactly?
stop with the athiest bashing here...... Not all athiests are the "American" religion hating athiests.... Buddhism teaches to respect religion and belief's of others.... they are very tolerant and they are ATHIEST!!!!
Aetheists ranked almost equal to Muslims? Fuck you "US public", you brainless twats.
Hey! They said "almost"! Looks like they were trying to be nice! Maybe if the Athiests tried harder???
Exactly right Rex atheists as a group are much , much more dangerous than goat humpers ever will be.. Those boy banging, towelheads cannot even build an AK, while you have Mao, Pol pot etc on your side, brainless indeed. Atheists should be much further down, thanks for pointing it out..
This is the dumbest fucking poll to date. So a nation built on Judeo-Christian "freedom of religion" is warmer to those groups than perceived "enemies".
What next, a poll of males on whether celibacy or blow-jobs are more preferable.
Depends on the viral threat level...just common sense.
Great , i see it commin to you in the near future, WAR on Etheists. Order your tix now.
Jesus saves. Moses invests.
Which makes more sense than this crappy poll.
But disciple Madoff made off. Almost. ;-)
I did not know Bernie was a prophet's name.
Polls are a measure of the effectiveness of the propaganda.
There is a lot to how you frame and ask the questions in a poll, too.
If we were asked who are we most likely to go to war with...atheists or Muslims...wait, the answer would still be about the same.
% of worlds population: Christians (32%); Muslims (23%); Atheists (2%). Do you really think the answer would be about the same? Really???
Yes, try this instead. Russia/USSR-atheist. China=Atheist. N. Korea-Atheist. Iraq, Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, Yemen, and whole Middle East-Muslim. Current conflicts, Ukraine, Middle East. Potential, S. China sea and N. Korean DMZ.
Does that help you understand my post, withglee?
What are there ... 2 billion Chinese? And 6 or 7 billion people on Earth? And the Chinese are all atheists? Well, that's over 30% right there. Throw in all those other countries and ... "No, FreedomGuy, I don't understand your post!". We're supposed to have secular government. Yet only a small percentage of the people in the USA are atheists ... a real small percentage. Iran, on the other hand, is for darn sure a non-secular place.
If you're going to be a non-secular state, you are pretty much asking for trouble, because you're limited to one religion. I don't know anywhere that that works.