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Goodbye Gun Control: The $1,200 Machine For 3D-Printing Guns Has Sold Out In 36 Hours
Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
Last May, I covered the work of Defense Distributed with regard to its building of tools for individuals to 3D-print their own firearms in the post. Meet “The Liberator”: The World’s First Fully 3D-Printed Firearm, In it, I noted:
3D-printing, like decentralized crypto currencies, have the potential to change the world in which we live in extraordinary ways. Ways that are almost inconceivable at this point given we are so early in the game. More than anything else, these technologies can empower the individual like never before, and I think that is generally a very good thing.
While all sixteen pieces of the Liberator were printed in ABS plastic, the $1,200 computer-controlled (CNC) milling machine called the “Ghost Gunner,” is capable of automatically carving polymer, wood, and metal in three dimensions. More from Wired:
Americans want guns without serial numbers. And apparently, they want to make them at home.
On Wednesday, Cody Wilson’s libertarian non-profit Defense Distributed revealed the Ghost Gunner, a $1,200 computer-controlled (CNC) milling machine designed to let anyone make the aluminum body of an AR-15 rifle at home, with no expertise, no regulation, and no serial numbers. Since then, he’s sold more than 200 of the foot-cubed CNC mills—175 in the first 24 hours. That’s well beyond his expectations; Wilson had planned to sell only 110 of the machines total before cutting off orders.
While the Ghost Gunner is a general-purpose CNC mill, capable of automatically carving polymer, wood, and metal in three dimensions, Defense Distributed has marketed its machine specifically as a tool for milling the so-called lower receiver of an AR-15, which is the regulated body of that semi-automatic rifle. The gun community has already made that task far easier by selling so-called “80-percent lowers,” blocks of aluminum that need only a few holes and cavities milled out to become working lower receivers. Wilson says he’s now in talks with San Diego-based Ares Armor, one of the top sellers of those 80-percent lowers, to enter into some sort of sales partnership.
The sales numbers for the Ghost Gunner may be far smaller. But at $1,200, every sale helps fund the activities of Defense Distributed. “I’ve never felt more optimistic about the ability of Defense Distributed to become an installed part of the future, and to help create an expansion of the second amendment,” he says. “There’s hope that Defense Distributed can become a significant civil liberties organization…That’s the ambition, the wildest dream of this entity, to have a marked material effect like that.”
Now here’s the Ghost Gunner in all its YouTube video glory:
Long-time readers of Liberty Blitzkrieg will know that I am a huge supporter of gun rights. While I am personally not a gun enthusiast in my own life, I recognize the right of my fellow citizens to be armed. While many people like to blindly push for gun control, it would be mush wiser for Americans to focus on “war control.” That is, stopping our own government from consistently, aggressively and unconstitutionally unleashing violence on populations all over the world, particularly the Middle East.
I find it the height of hypocrisy when politicians constantly using our nation’s blood and treasure to bomb and murder civilians all over the world, get up on podiums to stress the importance of disarming peaceful civilians due to a few random school shootings (as tragic as they are). When the U.S. government becomes Switzerland, then we can talk gun control. The biggest criminals, murders and war-profiteers around are at the top of the U.S. government and the military-industrial complex, and they’re doing it with our tax dollars. So if you want a more peaceful world, let’s start there.
For more of my thoughts on gun control read: How to Spot a Hypocrite in the Gun Debate and Other Reflections on Newtown
If 3D-printing of firearms isn’t your thing, check out: 3D Printing Entire Homes and Neighborhoods May be Just Around the Corner
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great idea, now "they" have an excuse to label the barrel as part of the firearm (as in the rest of the world)...good luck making barrels with a cheap CNC machine.
I bet the Fed is going nuts right now and why not. The reason they sold so fast is becaus individuals know that as the days go by the govt. is going to do something to shut this down so get them while you can essentially.
No dbTX, where there's a will there's a lawyer.
You mean where there is a mill (as in milling machine), there is a way.
Fed.Gub: "You say he's a Libertarian? Loves freedom? Challenging our omnipotence?
CRUSH HIM. NOW."
Printed metal versus forged metal. I think I am gonna wait this one out and see how these guns perform first. Reminds me of the first three carbon mountain bikes I owned. (It was actually just one bike, warrantied twice)
Its not printed, its milled from a solid block.
Reading the Wired article, it looks like it starts with a previously created lower that is about 80% complete, not a solid block.
Maybe it's time to have mandatory background checks on CNC machines? Will Obama expand BATF to BATFCNC? Will it be a secret executive order or will it be made public?
Stand by for the exciting next step.
They will probably lower the % of what counts as a gun to like 60% or 50%. The community will then catch up and the cycle will then continue down to 30% and so forth until anyone carrying around a chunk of metal will be detained under the Patriot Act indefinitely.
and then they start moving on to other parts of the gun, you know, like how most countries do it.
That would be difficult as after the receiver, everything else is far less complex.
You can print pretty much all the parts of a gun with the ABS plastic now even recievers, the barrels still need to be metal and the recievers should be metal as the plastic doesn't hold up over a good time period (about 200 firings).
Barrel is a good start
Or go after it from the ammo side. People also need to get creative on the ammo side of the equation. Like flex fuel cars, flex ammo weapons will probably be the next innovation in guns (assuming they don't already exist) as they refine and perfect the printing process.
Ammo's difficult.. you want to go after the primers and casings. Makes reloading far more difficult.
You'd have include the rounds, optics and guidance system in order to get "true cost." If you're talking single shot the barrel could in theory be made out wood actually...and the bullet out of some type of composite rubber/plastic with a small amount lubricant to improve muzzle velocity.
If you can hit 4000 ft/sec you can pretty much take out anything with tremendous accuracy. I use a digital range finder from Wal Mart as my scope...and separate myself from the gunner. The right "number two" can hit a target out to 800 yards (had a co worker who could hit well beyond that...1800 meters and beyond.)
So 4000 ft/sec means around 1300 yards in a second or covering two shots in just over one second making twin barrels ideal in my view. None exist that I am aware of though.
The best out there is a Thompson single shot 45 caliber in my view.
Can't to speak "printed guns" as I haven't seen any/tried any/produced any. Interesting concept though.
30-06 with sabots will send 62gr 223 pills down range @ 4300 fps all day long.
0% Lowers started out as a joke a while back... but the simple truth is that with either old school machining skills or a proper CNC mill -- an AR15/M4 lower is simple to make. But this new product seems to fit the niche (gaping chasm) of those who lack the either the mad machining ability or deep pockets for their own full CNC setup. But as long as one is machining one (or several) specific things where the design doesn't change it would only be incrementally more expensive to make a "hobby mill" that could crank out AR15s and 1911s all day long from a raw billet (block), as opposed to an order of magnitude more expensive for the flexibility to mill whatever you can dream up.
Those 0% lowers look like aluminum bullion. With all of the market manipulation that block will probably go up in value more than American silver eagles in this decade! 0% lowers will be $200 in the year 2020, and American Silver Eagles will be $10 with the current trend. /sarc
Where there is a mill, there is a way.
Radioactive isotope tracking off all metals possibly used in gun making.
Tell me you don't believe the NSA is already doing this....
Solves two problems at once:
1 Fukishima waste
2 Tracking unregistered guns (actually anything)
I call bullshit....
Blocks of aluminum are not hard to come by. The plans for a complete lowers are available, not just 80%.
Getting a mill and converting to CNC is not easy but not necessarily difficult either.
Or just buy a CNC milling machine.
80% lowers can be finished a lot faster but with that CNC you can start with a block of aluminum, it would merely take a few more steps to get it to the 80% phase.
Then someone is lying (title says "3D-PRINTED"), because milled is not the same thing as printed.
Big fucking difference dumbasses.
The author is probably purposely conflating the two or doesn't know the difference. In terms of outcome, there is no difference. In terms of quality end product, big difference.
Let's all take a minute to remember the greatest gun-build thread in the history of the intermet.
http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/179192-DIY-Shovel-AK-...!
That there would be a conundrum: If you make the shovel into an AK, what will you use to bury the pols, crats and banksters with?.
An American, not US subject.
Why would you honor them with a burial?
Who wants them stinking up the place any more than they did while pontificating and stealing?!
: - )
An American, not US subject.
I have a backhoe. Shovelling is too slow.
...but chipper/shredders feed the garden.
Hygiene purposes my friend. In any event the point is moot. Why use a shovel when a bulldozer will work just fine and you can bury by the hundreds?
Buzzards gotta eat too.
This is truely a great post, Gun Control really is a complete bullshit idea. http://www.northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/threads/179192-DIY-Shovel-AK-photo-tsunami-warning
"Gun Control really is a complete bullshit idea."
Gun control is not an "Idea," but an action of self-defense and self-preservation by the pols, crats, funcs, and banksters--Gun control is gun centralization.
An American, not US subject.
"In politics and government there is not "issues" or "ideas," but only justifications, cover, lies, and bullshit."
This site works better when you actually read the article and not just the headline. Otherwise, you just end up looking like a "dumbass," dumbass.
Sooo... what exactly is a dum-bass?
Spell checker not working?
This just makes it available at home, they have been having CNC parties for years now. They shop owner just rents time on it and you and your buddies go down and carve out your receivers and get drunk.
A prototype 1911 has already been made using laser-printed sintered metal. All parts printed, including the barrel.
It functions just fine.
https://blog.solidconcepts.com/industry-highlights/worlds-first-3d-print...
he's got a good product but no way will he out sell the Sham -Wow.. Not in Merica
Over/Under on the number of rectal exams the FBI have put Cody through?
From what I understand he as had many "encounters" with the them. My guess is that is what drives him now.
I want one that makes a Dallas Cheerleader.
Out of ABS? Wood?
I'd rather have one that makes RPGs, LAWs, MANPADs...any sort of 'arms' that I can bear. But I have to admit that having a Dallas Cheerleader who knows how to bare her, er, arms would also be nice, at least until my wife finds out and bears her arms.
With or without ebola?
Won't fly. Go ahead and use it in defense. You will be in the clink in seconds flat.
It's perfectly legal to manufacture your own non-serialized guns in the US. You just aren't legally allowed to sell/transfer them to others.
Who cares what's "legal" when the the government is illegal and illegitimate?!
An American, not US subject.
"I am the 3D 'printer' of guillotines."
"You will be in the clink in seconds flat."
As opposed to dead on the ground I guess. OK.
Incorrect, unless you live in some third world country like California or New Jersey.
Perfectly legal here in America. Just stay out of those third world shitholes I mentioned.
Can we 3-D print more money losing casinos for New Jersey?
Well America needs to bring manufacturing back..I guess this is a start...and besides..machine shops pay very well....
Smells like liberty.
Liberty, you say? "Bah, we'll have not of that here in the USSA." -BHO
My sister makes 7500 $ a week making 3d printed guns and you can too!
That's what she tells you. She's not making 3d printed guns - she's pleasuring me orally.
So your the next one she takes to the cleaners
Still waiting for the unit that can print a 5'10", 145lb smoking hot red head that's not nuts.
Who cooks and cleans? Count me in.
Not nuts is the hard part, especially in the redheaded version....
So true KD, especially in the red headed version, hence the caveat.
I love red heads to death, but never met a semi-sane one (all women are somewhat nuts, but red heads are full blown wacky). I believe some are out there, but if the printer can make me one with the specs I listed, I would buy 10 of dem dare printers and have me a whole mess a hot, long legged red heads.
But they gotta be natural...wigs or hair coloring don't cut it. There are features on natural born red headed beauties that make me melt.
yeah, I tell people you can color your hair and be a blonde but not a redhead because redheads are a force of nature....
They're fun to play with and rent.
But never buy one...
They'll drag you down the road to perdition.
And leave you there without your wallet.
Experience is a heartless teacher.
all gingers are daft. it's just a genetic fact. they are the rarest by far, whether male or female. genes count. the same gene that give them the ginger, makes them nutty.
but - if you really look inside yourself - you will realize, the fact that they are nutty is 'interesting'. trying to tame a bronco, or something like that.
Not nuts?
Women and cats are crazy. Men and dogs had better get used to it.
If you happen to have tools like a drill press and router, there are cheaper, non-automated ways of completing "80%" lower receivers:
http://www.slickguns.com/product/modulus-arms-jig-and-lower-package-19999
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Yeah, but can it make a grenade?
The home made equivalent of the grenade is the pipe bomb.
These arent used in crimes!!! *minus being the trunk of a guy who did Newtown
Black on Black crime is the main cause of gun violence in USA and its NEVER talked about.... I am from Chicago. Last year, 549 Homicdes by guns.... 84 Percent BLACK on BLACK * Gangs
Just curous, the other 16%?
Policing While White.
FUCK YOU ATF!
I'd love to see ten's of thousands sold. The ATF will need to have aluminum sales reported if not restricted.
If printers jam constantly can printed guns also jam? Long HK.
smells like a set up to me. ATF will be all over this shit soon, just like the muzzle breaks that get re-classified into "suppressors". assholes they are.....so say we all.
Well, I don't know about this. I approve of the sentiment expressed here but why not just buy a real one? And why would you print out an AR-15 of all guns? Plastic junk either way. Go get an AK because they are cheaper, more powerful and more reliable.
teh dumb.
Or get an M1A which doesn't look like an evil assault rifle and is in fact much better than any AR princess or AK spray gun at range and hitting power. If you don't mind the full battle rifle weight and recoil that is.
I already have one.
The M1A(M14) is actually a pretty nice gun but it is heavy as hell. It has a lot of moving parts though that need attention and rifle grease. That roller on the slide is suspect if there was any dust around. Accurate? You bet. I love my M1A and I think one person could pin down a lot of people with it. I load 150 grain FMJ boattails. You really do not want to get hit by that one.
The AK on the other hand is more accurate than you think. I can hit a bowling pin at 100 yards with my AK. What more do you need? The AR's can do that too but they are shooting a 55 grain bullet as opposed to a 139 grain bullet in the AK. So go shoot gophers or with the AR.
About as small as you can go is the 243 Win. That is a great round for deer. It is nothing more than a necked down 308 Win with nearly the same charge behind it. I like IMR 4064 powder. I personally like my 280 Rem which is a necked down 30-06 case that drives a 7MM bullet at over 3000 FPS. I usually use IMR 4895 and Nosler Accubond bullets but I do have some Black Talon bullets. They banned the Black Talon bullets and renamed them Failsafe. I am not sure if they are still on the market because I already already have enough ammo.
I appreciate your comment Sir. Per the other poster, I will get to reading about guns so that I learn up real good. Before I do that though, it's 48 grains of IMR 4064 behind a 150 grain bullet for 7.62x51.
Is Robert Duval using an M14 is Jack Reacher? I like where he puts one through the guy's receiver.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQCJAxDSpmI
Yes, an M14 or M1A.
You should learn to read more thoroughly before typing. First and foremost, this doesn't print anything, least of all anything made from polymers or plastics. This is a miniature CNC machine with a form-factor that is efficient for drilling holes in 80% completed, metal lower receivers using a computer guided steel carbide tip. As for your puerile comments about the superiority of an AK-47, I recommend familiarizing yourself with "philosophy of use", i.e. what scenario necessitates a particlar firearm, size and weight considerations, ammunition availability and cost, accuracy and recoil under stressful conditions, etc.
The gun is crap. There is a very high probability that I own more guns than you do and have shot more rounds then you will ever in your life. 5.56mm is a good round for shooting prairie dogs but not much else. The AR-15 is not that good of design unless you want to target shoot and clean the fucking thing all day long so that it does not jam.
If you wanted to talk about guns then you did not need to be an asshole about it. But since you were an asshole let me tell you something, I handload my own ammunition, I check the headspacing with an OAL gauge, I tumble all brass and case trim the brass, I then remove the burs in the primer hole on both sides before I seat the primer. I weigh my bullets on the powder scale before loading. You do not even know what I am talking about here do you?
The AR-15 is a peice of shit and that is why I do not have one. The design is overcomplication retarded. Have you ever taken apart a gun before? There is no one on ZH that will tell me about how guns work. I don't need to read a fucking thing you asshole. I have been out there and have shot a shitpile of guns. I have taken them apart. Do you even know how to take a Mosin-Nagant bolt apart. The answer is no you don't.
Keep watching your Hollywood movies.
Another internet COD armorer.
Fuck you dude. I am not selling anything here. Good, go ahead and do what you want on your world of warcraft or what ever that shit is.
The reason I mention you needing to read more thoroughly is because your comments amount to virtually nothing when you actually understand what a CNC machine like this does. It automates basic metal-work by reading digitized spatial instructions, which in this case, happen to be for AR-15's. You can build anything you want with this, so long as it fits within the confines of the frame.
If you truly do possess the expert knowledge of firearms that you claim, then surely you will have no problem designing a CAD file with all the requisites for engineering pieces of an AK-47. I seriously doubt that you do, but I'll suspend disbelief and take your word for it.
Ok, that is reasonable DWZM. But I must ask why I would want to print a gun? You can't print steel my friend. You know that it can not be done as well as I do. I appreciate the sentiment but it is not reality. You may suspend your disbelief and that is fine with me. If I know about anything it is guns, gold and silver. I need no vindication from you. You might be a great guy but I do not know that. Show us how a printed gun actually works and how long it can work for.
I will be your friend and perhaps lend you a gun when you need one. You have been called.
A keen observer will recognize that the printing of polymer firearms, at least in its current form, is less about functionality and more about sending a particular message. The message is that technology, ever evolving, is capable of obliterating prexisting control structures. In this context, Defense Distributed aims to surmount the strict control over the manufacturing and serialization of firearms.
So when you boisterously proclaim the inferior performance of newfangled polymer weapons, you are missing the philosophy entirely. The whole of the world already agrees with your point. The important question is: when the government starts by outlawing any magazines with capacities greater than 8, how will you respond? After they progress further down that road and confiscate all firearms, can decentralized production negate their heinous act?
Anyway, I am personally looking for a carbine that can share ammunition with my 9mm pistols. Any recommendations?
Perhaps one of these? I have not shot that gun so I can't say for sure. I think I like you but lets be honest, you can not print steel. I understand what you are saying about sending a message. I will send a message back to you. We already have more fucking real steel guns than we could ever use and a shit ton of AP ammo to go with them.
I could gvie a shit less if the .gov starts outlawing anything. The .gov can kiss my lilly white ass. Most of my guns are not papered anyway so fuck off. The .gov slaves will not confiscate anything if they want to live. Molon Labe.
What do you recommend instead of the AR-15 for say a middle aged man/woman?
Suppressed SBR SCAR 17s.
It depends on the situation that you have. I would say a Model 590 Mossberg with 00 buckshot to be a good choice if at home. I carry a 70's era J-frame Smith and Wesson Saturday Night 38 Special from the 70's for up close. You can fit that gun in your pocket very easily but make sure you are riding on an empty cylinder because of how it's firing pin system works f you buy one from that era. This round is especially good for a woman because it is not an over the top round as far as power but is still very lethal. For a man, I would say the same. It is a derringer with five shots(minus one for your empty chamber) but you won't need it. There are quite a few different versions of that gun but I have the original. Many of them are DAO which means double action only. I have stayed away from them becuase then you might as well have an automatic. In that case look at the Springfield Armory XD selections of affordable guns. I have shot them and they are very good. Made in Croatia no less. Go figure.
If you plan to do long range shooting then I like Remington, Winchester, Ruger, Tikka, Sako. At that point it really depends on how much you care about how accurate you can be. Cartridge headspacing can be no more than .002 of an inch off or it all goes to hell on any rifle. Will you custom build the ammo to the rifle or are you going to tell me somthing else?
I neck size only my fire formed cases for my bolt guns.
That is a great point on the fire form of a cartridge. You already know but allow me to explain for others. What that means is that the brass case is shot and it expands in the chamber and it expands to the the dimension of the chamber. It changes how the the powder charge goes off. Some folks will trim case length as well as cleaning out the primer pocket and flash hole. The resulting ammo is cusotm built for that specific gun.
Most people would not even know what we are talking about but it is clear that espirit does know what is up. I would not want espirit shooting at me and I doubt he would he would want me shooting back.
Training. You can figure out what weapon you want after you know how to use one.
How many kids died in a lie of a war by LBJ-MIC trying to clean that POS M-16? They neever even sent them cleaning kits in most cases. Yeah - let's do version 0.50 beta testing of a gun on a battle field.
Hopefully there is a special place in Hell for LBJ and McNamara.
You nailed that one Freddie. Could you imagine how much more a pile of shit that platform would be if printed? I would love to see one shoot more than one shot before it breaks. There is no way that a printed gun can keep up with a real gun made of steel. There is just no way that it can be true. You just can't print steel.
Growing the opium poppy is legal too. Get caught scoring, and you lose everything.
Same will be applied here.
§ 478.34 Removed, obliterated, or altered serial number.
No person shall knowingly transport, ship, or receive in interstate or foreign commerce any firearm which has had the importer's or manufacturer's serial number removed, obliterated, or altered, or possess or receive any firearm which has had the importer's or manufacturer's serial number removed, obliterated, or altered and has, at any time, been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/27/478.34
"interstate or foreign commerce". .... Don't sell it. Easy.
And "removed, obliterated, or altered,". .... If it had a serial number on it when you got it, don't screw with the existing serial number. Easy.
Serial numbers are only required on firearms you intend to sell, at which point you also need a Manufacturer's SOT. If your heirs sell it after you are dead, the FFL will put NSM ( no serial number ) in his bound book when he puts it on the sales shelf.
If you are making one strictly for your own personal use, you don't need to clutter it up with numbers. Don't quote law unless you are actually familiar with how it is actually applied in real life.
Print up a batch and keep us posted.
Be advised, Randy Weaver had a short Shotgun. Not sure what David Koresh really did.
IIRC, Randy Weaver was offered a lot of money by informants or govt agents to shorten a shotgun or shotguns. I think he initially told them to pound sand, but the lure of food money snared him. It was a fucking trap.
IIRC, Randy Weaver admitted to shortening a shotgun barrel to a still-minimally-legal length. Strangely, though, something seemed to happen to the shotgun stock, and the weapon's overall length slipped just a smidgen into illegality.
Too bad for you Randy! Say good-bye to your wife and son.
The CI asked him to make an SBS, and he did tell them to screw off.
Then the CI asked him to cut it to a legal length, and after he did so, the regular stock was magically replaced by the CI with a pistol grip, thus violating overall length limits. The BATFE then claimed that Weaver knew the CI was a bad actor because of his previous SBS making request.
Since then, if you want a gunsmith to shorten a barrel, you have to hand him a bare barrel, attached to nothing.
So you can grow Opium but not Pot?
The Opium Poppy can be grown, but when the pod is scored people think sap is being collected and turned into opium. Scoring is illegal.
For the record, all poppies are opium poppies.
Now go forth, and garden appropriately.
Americans people are fucking insane to sell this death boxes
Enjoy your chains, slave.
What's chains? any psychopath can buy this death boxes in my country with internet and make a weapon. You are making all countires like yours...
cnc machine=death boxes? The world is chock full of stupid people...
...that breed.
Your fear is delicious. Free people are armed. Slaves do not carry weapons.
"Your fear is delicious" nice line.. The savory scent of a man ready to downcast his eyes, expecting the coup de grace and lacking the spirit to dodge it, you have seen this as well haven't you.
I am not a sadist. But the number of hippies here, and their projection of their own sado-masochistic tendencies on gun owners is hilarious.
Nothing to do with sadism, it is the moment the rubber meets the road and the other guy runs out of road..
You need to worry more about ebola or your criminal politician leaders than death boxes. Ebola is far more dangerous than CNC milling machines.
What an idiot.
Your right this is a death box. I am ashamed of my country for exporting this death box to your country. Like all CNC machines it should weigh well over 1,000 Kilos that way death box cannot be lifted over head and smashed onto death box recipients head. Oh wait you mean you can make a gun to protect yourself is bad.. Butch up sally, the world is a rough place.
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Gonna have to use that one.
What a crappy video - turn on some damn lights for crying out loud!
We must not allow a 3D printing gap! Maybe 3D desktop printers will become like the desktop PC - we'll all have at least one, and we'll buy cheap downloadable pgms online to make almost any part for any device. And online sellers will also sell the metal, plastic, etc blocks to make those parts from, and a whole new cadre of merchants will get filthy rich in the process, while they put other, established merchants out of business (except those smart enough to make the switch).
This has the potential to turn Amaricans back into intelligent people, from the shitbrained morons that they now are, as everyone will be learning how to 'chuck up parts' in their 3D printers' vises, make the parts, and assemble them into something meaningful.
I'd like to make counterfeit coins out of (wink-wink) 'gold' and 'silver', for example, and sell them to the imbiciles on Ebay. I'd like to make heart valves and sell them to doctors for $10K a pop. I'd like to make penile implants and....
I think the lack of lighting is by design. makes it seem more clandestine.
where there's a mill there's a way
He's going to be in trouble for this. As the article outlines, his machine is designed to take an 80% finished piece, and finish it the rest of the way. That's why it's so cheap. But in being so cheap, it is also clearly designed to skirt federal regulations. Going out of your way to skirt federal regulations is itself a violation of federal regulations. He will be found to be a bad actor and prosecuted. I look forward to hearing the story here in a few months.
Yes, because it is cheap it skirts federal regulations. Your logic is impecable...
FFS.
A set of jigs and a drill press is even cheaper.
What little hippies like you are really butthurt over is ease of use.
Yep. 200 bucks nets you a universal jig for 80% receivers and a router from Harbor Freight.
Care to cite said "federal regulations"? Making one is legal. SELLING it is not without proper documentation/greased palm.
Umm, he's a juggalo, he needs no reason he feels it should be illegal and frankly from prior comments he has no earthly clue and could not prove it one way or the other.
Technology; just to say, Fuk you!
It's been covered before. Additive manufacturing is poorly suitted for high durability or thermally resistant applications. 3D printed guns are disposable pieces of crap. Someone with a lathe and a bit of know-how can manufacture guns much easier. A subtractive machine (CNC) is much more useful for making gun parts than a printer.
3D printing does make an extremely useful device when manufacturing injection molds, but very very few people use their printers that way. Injection molding would be alright for making custom gun stocks, but for other parts, subtraction is the best method. It leaves no seams, produces smooth surfaces and does not reduce metal's thermal characteristics.
This device isn't really a 'printer' is it? Isn't it a mini-CNC, and thus a subtractive, milling machine? They're just calling it a printer for convenience sake, I think.
It's a specialized mini-CNC. It only handles aluminum or plastic 80% casts.
"Printer" is just media hype. Although you CAN use a far more spendy sintered-metal laser printer to make a lower without bothering with an 80% cast.
Printer = understanding, instant gratification
Milling machine = glazed eyes, maybe even sinister/subversive, taking off socks and shoes to carry the one
Correct me if I am wrong you can do uppers and lowers without a cnc but but the barrel requires a cnc machine since at this point in the refinement process the barrels would probably be too weak?
The barrel is the one part that concerns me about these printing machines right now.
You can make a barrel with a sintered metal laser printer. You can even print the rifling into the barrel.
https://blog.solidconcepts.com/industry-highlights/worlds-first-3d-print...
Or do it the way it's been done for the last 300 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX0Gj7ZXeGc
Upper receivers aren't regulated. Only the lower receiver is regulated.
In the US.
Some countries regulate the upper. Some even consider a barrel to be a firearm ( muzzleloader era regulations ).
Gun smithing was/ is an honorable profession,
Circa 1775.
But of course, NOT to the occupying power(s) then and now.
Yup. Local firearms manufacture was a death penalty offence in the British colonies.
Not that this stopped German gunsmiths who had immigrated back when the colony was called New Holland. They just ignored it.
...or the underground boolit making by the Israelis post WWII during the British Accord.
I'll take two units. Many other uses for this mini. Mum is the word. Winks
SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!!
Cue the chorus of euro dicks calling Americans "gun nuts" without realising that once they were disarmed, their governments stopped fearing them and started trampling them.
Cody and his kind are fast becoming the last line of defense against the totalitarian regime masquerading as democratically elected public representatives.
If you read carefully this is overpriced crap.
It will not make a receiver from a solid block of aluminum. All it does is FINISH an 80% done receiver that is legal to finish out youtself. Any competent machinist could do that with a $100 Harbor Freight drill press. Even a non-machinist could do the same with a couple drill jigs and that drill press.
What will be a game changer is to be able to create a complete to spec receiver with the new metal 3D printers we'll see soon. When that happens don't be surprised if they change the REGULATION - not the law. They can make 80 percent receivers forbidden - or 50% or 20%. They can make owning a copy of a CNC or 3D program to make a receiver legally the same as having the actual product.
I'm talking 3D printers that can make 99.9% density steel/bronze/aluminum or even composite structures that are not like ram and furnace sintered products that fracture.
They can even have a scary FBI warning like they do on CDs.
I like to include it on my ripped discs.
I'm a badass outlaw.
I guess AG Eric Holder can't have his "Fast & Furious" anymore?
Ghost Gunner for the gun .
What about the Smart Bullets ?
See http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2012/02/smart-bullets.html