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The USPS Cost-Saving Plan: The Postman Always Rings Never
Having lost billions of dollars for quarter after quarter, The US Postal Service has a cunning plan to cut costs - end door-to-door postal delivery. More than 30 million American homes get door-to-door delivery and another 50 million get their mail dropped at their curbside mailboxes, but as Reuters reports, with the 'entity' buckling under massive financial losses, it sees savings in centralized mail delivery. This is good news for the customer though - apparently - as Postal Service spokeswoman Sue Brennan explains "converting delivery away from door delivery to either curb line or centralized delivery would enable the Postal Service to provide service to more customers in less time."
The Postal Service last year lost $16 billion, mostly due to dwindling mail volumes and massive payments into a mandatory fund for its future retirees' healthcare.
The agency, which does not receive taxpayer funds, is under pressure to modify its business model and raise revenues or risk requiring a bailout of nearly $50 billion by 2017.
So, as Reuters reports, under a cost-saving plan by the U.S. Postal Service, millions of Americans accustomed to getting their mail delivered to their doors will have to trek to the curb and residents of new homes will use neighborhood mailbox clusters, the agency said.
The Postal Service has been quietly phasing in the change with some aspects starting in April, and it has given no timeline for the shift. It's unclear if delivery to the door will be eliminated entirely.
"Converting delivery away from door delivery to either curb line or centralized delivery would enable the Postal Service to provide service to more customers in less time," Postal Service spokeswoman Sue Brennan said.
More than 30 million American homes get door-to-door delivery and another 50 million get their mail dropped at their curbside mailboxes.
But the Post Service, which is buckling under massive financial losses, sees savings in centralized mail delivery. Door-to-door delivery costs the Postal Service about $353 per address each year.
Curbside delivery costs $224, and cluster boxes cost $160 per address. With cluster boxes, mailboxes for individual addresses are grouped together at a central neighborhood location.
The move is one of many controversial cost-cutting steps the Postal Service is trying as it continues to plead with Congress for permission to overhaul its business and avert a bailout.
Not everyone is sure this is good idea...
Some in the mailing community such as the Greeting Card Association support a switch to a cluster box system.
But others such as the National Association of Letter Carriers and the American Postal Workers Union oppose it.
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This minor modification to delivery will only forestall the inevitable.
As a side note though mail thieves will be able to collect mail from single clustered boxes rather than having to go door to door pilfering out of individual mail boxes.
I have a better idea: Ban public sector unions.
Based on my experience a big part of the problem is that the public is no longer willing to even RECEIVE mail delivery. At the condo where I live many young people never bother to check their mail. They get paid by direct deposit, they have all their bills on autopay and they communicate by twitter and email. Many young people have never written or received a paper letter.
Once their boxes fill up with junk mail the postman can no longer cram anymore in. He almost cries sometimes since he has to return all the undelivered junk with a written explaination and the USPS has to rebate the delivery fee. The entire system is about to collapse.
The USPS makes a ton of money. The only reason they run a defecit is the congress mandated funding of 80 years worth of retirement accounts!! Learn the facts people. Why only the post office and no other govt agencies? Whats the agenda here? The PO is constitutionally mandated, serves a practical purpose and is quite efficient. http://about.usps.com/who-we-are/financials/annual-reports/fy2010/ar2010...
You're an idiot.
You obviously only know what you are programmed to know by the PR effort and cant formulate your own well informed analysis. Thats all youve got?
Pension, meet Ebola.
the solution is as obvious as it is simple:
1. print out an electronically-signed postage stamp
2. affix stamp to envelope
3. insert envelope into mailbox at curb
4. raise little red flag, indicating mailbox contains posted envelope
5. send email to the recipient designated on the envelope
6. recipient arrives at mailbox, retrieves envelope, cancels stamp
done.
How can the USPS change its business model when the assholes known as Congress won't let them?
Benjamin Franklin is spinning in his grave:
Diane Feinstein's husband has been dealing in USPS real estate for a fucking fortune - when will Californians EVER vote that bitch out of office?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/12/firm-chaired-by-sen-fein...
"Selling Off The Post Office"
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/12/01/1165912/-Selling-off-the-Post-O...
The post office business model worked better under a surplus energy economy and starts suffering under a steady state or contracting economy.
Like most business models (organizations, or even entire civilizations) premised on endless, eternal growth.
Actually, I just understand that an institution which derives it's funding from the use of force is neither practical or efficient.
@cgbspender Use of force???
The USPS is the least expensive postal service in the Western world - perhaps you ought to check your fucking facts wanker.
@cgbspender - next time bring your 'A' game
Man you guys are dim.
How is taxation not a use of force? There are also statutes on competing against the postal service. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Letter_Mail_Company
it's quite possible for tax money to become an investment that produces value- hence the panama canal.
it's also possible for tax money to become an investment that produces no value, or even destroys value- hence, the department of defense.
And you must be a relative..
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And especially interesting with reguards to the employment freeze they enacted last month. They wont let anybody quit and now they wont be doing door delivery anymore. Whats up usps? Whatcha gonna do with the employees that now have more time on their hands?
Fred Smith bribed most of Washington to get that done. Why do you think the local stadium is called FedEx Field. Eventually, we will all pay good ol' Fred to have his slaves deliver the mail. Private sector thievery to the rescue!
+1 for user name
That's because the idiots don't charge enough for all that junk they deliver. What a waste of trees and man power.
They're not allowed to charge reasonable rates for the junk mail. The junk-mailers have very effective lobbyists and they own Congress. It's ironic, because once the union-busters get rid of USPS altogether, UPS and FedEx aren't going to be overnighting junk mail for far less than the cost of doing the work. So the junk-mailers are cutting their own throats. Maybe they're just going to convert to spam e-mails, like everyone else.
Yes the legacy pension issue fries the bottom line.
And there's a mentality that you cut services before you touch pensions.
Surely better to maintain current service with a realistic price for the fine convenience of home delivery - somewhere between current price and a buck.
Disclosure: - Long 10,000 Forever stamps @41c LOL.
It's not a legacy program. It's a mandate from right-wingers in Congress out to create a bad image and give hate radio blowhards something to squeal about.
Congress has them piling up more cash than could ever be needed for legacy pensions. An interesting stupid vs evil debate, but has nothing to do with the workers and their deferred compensation.
Huffpo slow today?
Food for thought. The Paperboy has been obsolete for years, yet the Post Orifice continues to use over-paid paperboys to do the same exact job paperboys once did, just to earn a portion of the subscription price. No min wage. no healthcare. no retirement plan....just a couple canvas bags on your handlebars.
Shit...paperboys did more!!! Because of the pay model (at my local paper), it was in their interests to go out sell more subscriptions. Post Orifice paperboys merely pickup and deliver from the comfort of their custom vans.
The post Orifice has already been using Mailbox clusters in new housing developments for decades. My parents house, built in 1987, has a mailbox cluster....which is falling apart. What is so new about this plan?
Since I only receive junk mail, and government communications via the Post Orifice, can I opt out of delivery altogether?
/rant -off
You couldnt have said that any better. Plus 1
You couldnt have said that any better. Plus 1
Should have done this years ago. Fuck home delivery. Have a box at the office if you want mail.
The Con allows for post offices. Not fucking door to door junk mail delivery.
Junk mail and Affirmative Action hires, that is all the post office benefits today.
pods
Get rid of "junk" mail and the post office delivery is not needed.
Let Uber and Lyft drivers do it.
I can't argue on the labor force matter. There certainly are some LCD people running around there.
If (what's left of) the private sector can't hire 'em...go postal.
So does this mean they would go to something like a POBox for everyone? Just imagine the space requirements for that. I live in a town of 70,000. The main post office lobby has about 25 feet length of the area devoted to the POBoxes. I'd estimate some 500 there (not all the same size). Of course you can only reach so high for your mail. Imagine how big that space would need to be to accomodate even 10,000. The logistics of that would be huge in terms of having the physical space for boxes there, not to mention quibbling about folks w/disabilities having to reach too high or low (or for even having to go the postal pickup area). Oh yeah, plus the traffic would be huge and horrendous every day of the week. Or would it be a reason to "outsource" to places like Mailboxes Etc or UPS stores? I know it's a govt service, but I feel better about them than I do the DMV, DHS, etc.
It doesn't have to be solved right now. Only the momentum to stop door to door delivery.
Hell, you could have a big ass warehouse that holds mail. That would be cheaper to have and staff than having a fleet of trucks and mailmen delivering mail daily. I mean, they already sort the shit, why not?
Then have people pay for it. Most all bills today can be done electronically, and junk mail is probably 90% of the load anyways. There goes the need for half the workforce.
All the USPS has to do is maintain post offices per the constitution.
And I absolutely agree that it is a need. You do not want to have a private company in charge of the post office.
But, you also don't want it to be a make a modern day TVA.
People bitch about the pension funding, which is a valid point.
But the USPS should scream from the rafters that this illustrates the point that almost all pension funds are fucking bankrupt. Nope, USPS toes the line and plows on.
They should deliver junk mail that tells how the Teacher's Pension funds are all a big Ponzi, or even SS and medicare and would collapse if they had to do what the USPS is doing.
But nope, the USPS is just another bureaucracy.
pods
Who down voted you pods?
But I like the thinking 'outside the box'....let's see if it gets any traction or gets mired in bureaucracy. I suspect the latter. Ergo, the problem with this organization....if it was a business (like FedEx, UPS) the leader would make the decision...and it would be fast and they would be held accountable with results.
Just saying.
How long before they go to Google robot delivery vans ? that will cut the Labor cost.
When Google figures out a pretext for government subsidy. The per piece cost of labor's so small they'll need some cash flow of taxpayer money to keep it going.
I don't get why they can't just print money and fund it all?!?!
Keep the mail. Enough advertisement elsewhere.
Just charge for home delivery
I'm surprised you got downvoted as much as you did. Really, that comes to what-- $20/mo. What would a Mailboxes Etc box cost you each month? And that already assumes the mailman dumps the stuff there to begin with.
just charge more for junk mail. including campaign crap.
You mean, charge more? Or is the stamp just a decoration?
Privatization works by charging more and giving less. Improve the optics for those scams, certainly.
I'm on board if I can choose a low cost option for delivery less often. Can I get my mail once a week for maybe $5 a month? Just put it in a box at my front door.
Yeah, I can walk to a cluster of mail boxes, but we have a lot of old/disabled people that would have trouble with that.
Really I think if you asked customers most would rather deal with reduced frequency than reduced convenience. Deliver 3 days a week instead of 6 days a week, problem solved.
Mail is little more than 3D spam. Ahyone get anything useful or needed in the mail these days?
Guns
Gun parts
Moar guns & gun parts
But USPS forbids ammo
PM's
appx 200 oz of silver due in this week via USPS. No matter to me if it came UPS or FedEx.
My very rural Grandparents used to drive down the road to the post office once a week to get their mail. Being out in the boonies can I foresee that happening to me in the not distant future. Back to the future. Foreward! off the cliff.
A fraction of a percent of the mail that gets delivered to my home is something I actually want. The rest is garbage. I was actually thinking about making my mail box look exactly like a trash can since that is where most of it ends up anyway.
I had a friend, who is a postal carrier, call to ask me some financial advice. He is still putting money in the post office "retirement plan". $20K in credit card debt, working a second job, girlfriend (ex-stripper) has some unexplained disease that requires her to take massive amounts of perkocet. She just moved into his house with him and her 9 month old baby (not his) and promptly quit her job when she settled in.
My advice to him was -
1. Stop donating money to retirement plan.
2. Default on the credit card debt and push for a settlement some 90 days after he stops paying.
3. RUN THE FUCK AWAY FROM THE STRIPPER HEROIN ADDICT GIRLFRIEND AS FAST AS HE CAN.
Looking back on that conversation I would say cutting off retirement plan would still be priorirty number one, based on this article at least.
Rather difficult for a guy to stay away from strung-out strippers. She knows her next fix is dependent on her ability to suck a golf ball through a garden hose.
Dan, is that you?
So...uh...help me understand. He has kidney stones?
Sounds like he has found his soulmate....
There is an order to the universe...
Everyone here is complaining about junk mail to their post box - have a look at your e-mail box lately? That isn't free either - someone somewhere is paying someone somewhere for all that fucking junk but I reckon the junk e-mail costs a lot more money than the junk mail in your post box.
I do not use electonic banking or any electronic payment system whatsoever. I go to my local post office window to pay my bills in cash or avail myself of the direct payment system offered by the postal account system as millions here do. NEVER EVER A PROBLEM - NEVER EVER A RIPOFF. The USPS should adopt the same system as Switzerland, France, Germany.
http://www.swisspost.ch/
standing in line at the post office sucks ass bitchez. they are the only ones who make you go pick up your package at their place if you miss a single delivery attempt that needs to be signed for. worst. service. ever.
Drone deliveries!
How about charging real prices for junk mail?
Eliminate the postal service. It will all reshuffle and discover itself.
It was already discovered until the feds ran off the competition. Lysander Spooner FTW.
of course raising the bulk postage rate is out of the question. peoplez needz their junk mailz bitchez.
Aren't you aware that all the "junk mail" you find in your post box is protected by "freedom of speech"? Oh yes!
If you like your mail delivery, you can keep your mail delivery.
An American, not US subject.
I don't care how the Post Office runs itself, so long as taxpayers don't have to subsidize it or bail it out.
So, some folks are going to have to walk all the way to the curb and back so Banksters don't have to walk all the way down to their wine cellars. Is this what they're saying?
No. They are saying you will have to drive all the way to the post office and back so Obamacare can be funded.
No what they are saying is that the Banksters now will have two wine cellars: one in the basement of their million dollar house right next to the four Lamborghinis and one on the yacht, regardless of anything decided about the Post office.
Keep your eye on the ball or the wine cellar...
Pay me 50% of what my local post office brings in, and I will make a nice profit AND keep postal customers happy.
Have they considered slingshots?
i'll leave a window open ...
No, you're suppose to leave your window closed so when they break it you can stimulate the economy by buying a new one.
/sarc
Just wait until the aclu files an ADA lawsuit. My mother has no way of obtaining packages not left at the front door
The reality is that delivering mail to your door at a cost that is below what you would tip your pizza delivery guy, is ridiculous.
I want MOAR blood from that turnip, dammit.
In an average year I will get about 2500 mail pieces (give or take). Given a home delivery cost of $353 dollars (and a lot of customers currently have cluster delivery in the metropolitan areas) ... that puts the cost per item at $0.14... not including pickups, sorting and bulk transportation.
I am not sure what the USPS's bulk rates are, but to deliver to the burbs and break even, my guess is that they need to average somewhere between $0.20 and $0.22 per item... a lot more for delivering to rural Montana and less for big city apartment complexes.
I feel sorry for anyone who gets a cluster in their front yard.
Are you saying the home owner would have to put up with Cluster Fucks in the front yard?
Why did the USPS have to prefund retiree medical care? I thought they all got Obamacare now?
The fact is, the Post Office is not supposed to make a profit any more than the Marine Corps. This entire thing is a red herring to cause outsourcing. Mail is something the government should be doing. It is one of the few things they should be doing.
No good or service should be mandated by the barrel of a gun. The idea that people cannot solve their own problems without violent coercion is infantile.
The idea there's no such thing as the public good is infantile. Expecting armed gangs or uninvolved individuals to step into every breech has never happened and has no chance of happening, outisde the books of Robert Heinlein, Ayn Rand, the Cato Foundation, etc.
Huffpo slow today?
Funny thing is, UPS and Fedex have outsourced home delivery to the PO in many cases. So much for those contracts.
How about putting those unused drones and helfire missles to good use? No long will your mail be curbside/clusterfucked boxed/mailboxed, but right in your mother fucking living room...through a window, door, or new hole in your roof. Free open air styling courtesy of the USPS and Lockheed Martin.
"Door-to-door delivery costs the Postal Service about $353 per address each year. Curbside delivery costs $224, and cluster boxes cost $160 per address."
I'm no math wizard but they deliver 6 days per week and there are 52 weeks in a year so that is 312 deliveries. Stamps are close to $.50. If I get 3 letters per day that is $1.50. Multiply by 312 delivery days and it is $468 per year. That doesn't include packages. No wonder they are losing money.
How can I short the USPS???
Glitchez, bitchez.
Easy, buy 100 oz silver bars online and have them delivered via USPS. That way you can short the US dollar and piss off your mail carrier at the same time!
Where I live in Canada the mailbox clusters have been the standard for about 20 years. I fail to see the big deal in people switching over to that. Then again it IS the U.S where most people are obese and lazy so that could be a problem for the masses if they actually have to walk outside for a few hundred feet...
Long mobility scooter sales!
The big deal is that I'm paying for something I don't want or need. How would you feel about this: "Today, Amazon announced a new cost cutting measure whereby customers would simply drive to the nearest Amazon warehouse to pick up their orders. Amazon states that this will allow them to serve more customers at one time"
Signed,
American, 6' 2", 175 lbs
I would say "cheap shot", if it were not all true! Ha! Ha!
A Walmart or two for each zip code might do most of it. Parking already in place.
Neighborhood mailboxes are a disaster. If the mail carrier accidentally delivers something to the wrong box, it's on your neighbor to fix the error.
Signature required for delivery? LOL - If you're lucky, the mail carrier will not put that you signed for it even though you didn't, and drop it into the (hopefully right) package bin. Insured for $1k? LOL - Like they care!
I make it a point to choose either UPS/Fed Ex for my deliveries, even at extra cost over the sometimes "free shipping" via USPS from some shops.
I have not had a problem with USPS for package delivery, except one time over the last 20 years. I think one minor delay over 2 decades was not such a bad record. I refuse to feed a huge fee into the Fed Ex or UPS systems. They just demand too much money for the same job USPS does. If I add up wrong deliveries, the UPS man has dropped my packages wrong or others at my door more times than the USPS has. Which to my knowledge was never. But everyone has different experiences, but I know many people and none of them seems to have a USPS bitch.
It seems to depend on where you live - some USPS workers still do care.
I've had 2 or 3 problems with UPS and FedEx in the last 10 years. Each time, they fixed the error rather quickly and I found myself with an overnight delivery to help make up for the inconvenience. I've had at least a half dozen problems with USPS in the past 2 years. To get things remedied is a chore at best.
USPS bills you Walmart style.
Kind of funny that the USPS doesn't recieve taxpayer funds but Congress holds them over a barrel about restructure. Either let them restructure and go on their own...or fund them and quit funding wars and other countries.
The USPS is building a nice sweet pile of cash under the ultimate control of the DINOs and RINOs infesting Congress. Easier to finance their friends pork barrel projects if they don't have to tax.
I live in a small town of around 10,000 and we got the "install a box at the curb mandate" years ago. USPS hasn't delivered to my door for at least a decade.
What is really stupid is Elizabeth Warren's idea to offer limited banking services at the post office.
Not sure I know enough about the post office bank idea, but anything that reduces my bank funds commingling with Banksters gambling sounds like a good idea to me....
Or Glass-steagal
But mixing Banks and IBanks together and giving them FDIC Guarantees is the definition of corruption.
@RaceToTheBottom: Here it is again
http://www.swisspost.ch/
Same in France, Germany etc etc and NO subprime bankruptcies either and check out the rates
The politicans vetoed stopping Saturday deliveries.
No politician has the courage to spell the math out to the public. Saturday is the first place to start with cuts, so obvious.
We want all our circuses, all our dogs, and all our ponies. We want free phones because, you know, they are a necessity.
We assume we are entitled to this mail service, looking at the response on this thread. If it does not work financially, then it can't happen. End of it. What part of NO don't we understand (I know the answer, NO MONEY, that's what we don't understand).
Let it fail.
Let folks compete with each other to provide the service.
I do not get the response to this issue on this thread at all.
Mailbox Baseball!!!
Why does the federal. Financibg bank keep writing checks to it
The companies that make curbside mailboxes have stepped up their political payoffs.
All curbside mailboxes must have the "Government Approved" seal.
I have a question... Would it be possible to start a small letter carrying business within either a town or county? Depending on where you live the USPS ships things out of town and then back. You could basically offer same day deliver without a ton of expense. You could also do some sort of club so people got things like birthday, anniversary cards or whatever else without having to worry too much about it.
Ya that would work. and we could get funding for the side program of teaching the banaladeshes english so when they deliver to the wrong house they have no excuse.
H1b visa program cause no ussers would work for the trainie pay of .12c per hour.
You all can thank congress for this mess. In 2006 the USPS had a 4 billion dollar profit and their pension was fully funded. The thieving assholes in congress decide to take the profit away and make them pay 75 years ahead to fund a pension that was already funded. You don't think FEDEX or UPS lobbyist had anything do with that.
Cluster box is all over in Canada. The world has not ended up there. Mail is hardly important anymore, nothing vital is in it on a daily basis. Cluster box for each block would be nice. The oldsters can get off their asses and walk out to the boxes, good exercise for them. Save that money, in 2014 it is nothing short of insane to walk up to people's front doors and deliver there. This should have been done 10 years ago and already have saved billions upon billions. And mailmen will now just drive to the cluster box and load it up, he can do a block in 5 minutes that used to take 10minutes. I see that as a massive labor savings, and so does anyone in the USPS with a brain. Jobs? sure, another 100K will go, but America can get these people into health care and financial services, real estate and retail sales. That is the trend.
Actually it doesn't save labor it increases it but just unpaid. Massive duplication of effort, including trips to check empty boxes or, if you have to go to the post office, lots of extra petrol consumed.
So far as your comment "the world has not ended up there", the same can be said about the US with Obama, doesn't mean it has been a beneficial change.
You didn't mail that.
Oh, I know a couple mailmen here in my small town. I can't wait to get their take on it. This would end their humping mail in all weathers to each house. I bet they are happy as a dog rolling in shit over this idea. Make their jobs 100% easier. And this may even allow the firings of supervisors who follow them around measuring and counting their steps. Our guy used to have to scan bar codes every few minutes so the boss could track him each day. The USPS asked to put a bar code inside my box to aid this program, I told him to go fuck him self and get a real job. He didn't say much back! Cunt!
Wha'??? What will happen to Newman now?? Oh... MAN!
Oh, the humanity!
Cluster Boxes from the cluster fucks!
I just don't think community post offices are a bad idea. There just has to be many of them to take care of neighborhoods. I've become used to mine -- I live in a mountain community and there is NO residential delivery except by UPS/FedEx for packages. We all use the local PO, almost a meeting place. For many urban neighborhoods, the mail would be safer than put in a box to be stolen. Just doesn't seem that awful especially if it makes the USPS more fiscally sustainable.
On the other hand, we could end all warfare and welfare and subsidize the hell out of postal service....
Will the USPS be paying for the cluster boxes? Last time they wanted them they wanted individuals to pay for them.
FAct is)
Carriers make 28.00 an hour
5 weeks paid vacation
All paid fed. holidays off
Free run on over time can wright their own paychecks. Most make well in excess of 80K yr.
Retire after 30 with if 56 or older
401k 5% match for 5% contribution. You can do 15% if so choose.
2hrs a week or 104hrs sick leave per year. unused accrues and added to years of service if not used.
Not bad for an unskilled job that takes 3 days or less to learn.
This is what Government thinks laborers are worth in their fantacy land.
So, instead of tearing them down from envy, how about building the rest of us up? Or is learning what's possible too dangerous?
Why, you be careful now, if folks started thinking they might ask questions instead of just obeying their exalted lords like good little serfs...
Alot easier to click a down arrow than qualify for a state job, isn't it?
So what is stopping you from applying for that job?
Crippling incompetence would be my guess.
Alot easier to click a down arrow than qualify for a state job, isn't it?
Shock Doctrine 101... sell off the govt assets and privatize services..... with people screamiing about the losses and 80 years of legacy benefits funded, uncle Omaha will get a monopoly biz with high barrier to entry and a big pool of money/pension funds to invest.
No matter what USPS does, they'll still lose money. It has to do with the nature of protected bureaucracy. They should start contracting out each local post office.
No matter what USPS does, they'll still lose money. It has to do with the nature of protected bureaucracy. They should start contracting out each local post office.
Affirmative action hiring practices+government employee perks and bennies+can't fire any of them+junkmail mountain=Failure.
i think ups, fedex and the other premium delivery services should be forced to take on the crap the usps has to deliver by law and see how much profit they can make out of it. this is such a bullshit story.
there are thousands of rural hamlets that have had pick up service for mail as far as three miles away for more than 100 years.
So, because there are bad laws that make it "difficult" for USPS, your answer isn't to get rid of either those laws or the USPS, but to make prive delivery services abide by the same crap laws. Is that about right?
Why do you think forcing them to do this would make it difficult for UPS, Fedex? Most of my junk mail would go away (yea!), or those merchants would need to pay for the delivery, just like anything else. Guess what? The result is.... wait for it.... I know it's freightening ... consumers get exactly what they want based on what they are willing to pay.
psssst. the usps is a constitutional mandate. the private services have exploited this weakness to the benefit of everyone. regardless of this fact, criticizing the usps without discussing the huge built in overhead is bullshit.
your reading comprehension needs help in the putting words in other peoples' mouth department. the fn board is filled with dumbasses now.
Article I, Section 8, Clause 7:
"To establish Post Offices and post Roads"
But as Lysander Spooner noted in 1844, this does not expressly prevent private entities from delivering mail. However the Private Express Statutes do. So I'm assuming you have some basic knowledge of economics and understand that monopolies are bad. Even a statist like Paul Krugman will agree that monopolies result in poor service and high prices.
The article in question, and this discussion, regards the economics of the USPS. Trying to dismiss the economics by Appeal To Authority ™ won't do.
So, in regards to the economics, if the USPS has some sort of unbearable overhead, it is because it is a monopoly. I could care less about the details of this because the solution has been known for centuries. Break up the monopoly.
As to my reading comprehension, if you read the words from both our posts carefully, I think you'll notice something. My writing is actually comprehensible. If I misread you're original post, I apologize, but, yea, your writing sucks.
Your junk mail will never go away because it is "protected" under "free speech" - that's one of the perversities I know but there you are.
All managers at PO are Black, They were usually really bad carriers and faked a bad back or something so there is no use for them and they make them boss. They are phchopathic racist haters. Hate white people and drive them like slaves! You can't say anything because they are black. All their fellow blacks can do no wrong and whitie has to pull the slack or You will be fired. It is beyond belief what a racist cesspool the PO is. I pitty the poor white folks that work there.
This is not racist. It is fact!!
I pity you
You idiot Libtard. He described USPS exactly as it is. I implemented systems there and it's actually even worse than he says. All managers are black and they're utterly useless and carry a major chip on their shoulders. It deserves to crash and burn.
260,000 fuck.ng mail trucks spewing pollutants into our breathing air. And not a word of complain from our liberal retards.
For a job that can be done over the Internet!!
I, nor does any one, need any fuck.ng paper mail!
Another example of the exceptionalism of our form of Government.
I suppose you don't drive a vehicle?
My local po needed a new roof. A regular one wasn't good enough for covering the heads of letter sorters, so they went for the architectural shingles. Nothing but champagne and caviar for my local hacks!
"What ! Nevermore will the postman knock twice ?"
"Nevermore ."
He has reskilled as the Postman of the Apocalypse
See how in
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2012/11/optimizing-professional.html
No service, same price. How is it the private carriers, who do not enjoy the post office monopoly on letters, turn a profit? The USPS is rayciss. Burn it down.
They might be able to make a go of it if they could charge Junk Mailers the right fare to distribute their advertising.
This turd class rate is total bullshit.
It costs money to read all your email bichz.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Postal_Inspection_Service
You want us to deliver your junk mail too? Thats not in the budget.
there are tons of ideas to change usps, and most all govt. agencies, but thats just it it's govt..
60% of the american, or illegal voters vote for politicitians that guarantee them they won't have to pay, or they won't disturb you're finacial benifits buy changing things.
here we sit.
did i read that right, the usps doen't get tax-payer funds?
The USPS is as it is because it's stuffed to the gills, at every level, by useless indolent and incompetent 'minorities' emplyed at the expense of White Americans. I'm looking forward to seeing this particular train-wreck hit the buffers.
I would have no problem 'de-listing' my address and telling business partners "I dont uses USPS." "If you want me to have something 'Brown-it'."
Congress traditionally has included a provision in legislation to fund the federal government each year that has prevented the Postal Service from reducing delivery service. The Postal Service had asked Congress not to include the provision but despite the request current legislation maintains the provision.
So again, as America sits mired in debt with a growing deficit, our government has failed to take a simple commonsense step to correct the problem. This also The President has also failed to step up to the plate and provide leadership. More on this subject in the article below.
http://brucewilds.blogspot.com/2013/04/post-office-fails-again-how-pathe...