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Putin Warns Of "Nuclear Power Consequences" If Attempts To Blackmail Russia Don't Stop

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Vladimir Putin slams President Obama for adopting a "hostile" approach in naming Russia as a threat to the world in his recent UN speech. From an interview with Serbia's Politika newspaper, Bloomberg reports,

It’s futile for the U.S. and its allies to “blackmail” Russia over the Ukraine crisis, President Vladimir Putin said in a newspaper interview today.

 

Russia’s partners should remember the risks involved in disputes between nuclear powers, Putin said. He accused Barack Obama of adopting a “hostile” approach in naming Russia as a threat to the world in the U.S. president’s speech to the United Nations General Assembly on Sept. 24.

 

“We hope that our partners will realize the futility of attempts to blackmail Russia and remember what consequences discord between major nuclear powers could bring for strategic stability,” Putin told Serbia’s Politika newspaper on the eve of his visit to the Balkan nation today.

 

Putin said that Obama had identified Russian aggression in Europe as one of the three “major threats facing humanity,” alongside the Ebola virus and Islamic State.

 

“Together with the sanctions against entire sectors of our economy, this approach can be called nothing but hostile,” Putin said.

 

Attempts to pressure Russia with “unilateral and illegitimate restrictive measures” will impede efforts to settle the crisis, he said.

 

“How can we talk about de-escalation in Ukraine while the decisions on new sanctions are introduced almost simultaneously with the agreements on the peace process?” he said. “If the main goal is to isolate our country, it’s an absurd and illusory goal.”

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Opportune timing with markets weak for some nuclear sabre rattling...

 

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Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:37 | 5338388 falconflight
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Who is more insane, Obamanation, or us for sitting on our lazy collective asses?

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:05 | 5338188 cherry picker
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The only real threat to this world is Obama being Commander in Chief and mouthpiece for the USA.

Someone shut him up and demote him to private and give the Commander in Chief's job to someone who is wise and intelligent.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 23:15 | 5339433 Augustus
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Biden is the backup.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:15 | 5338233 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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President Putin was nice enough to allow Edward Snowden exile when in fact the American Government wants to chuck him in a 'pound-me-in-the-ass' maximum security federal state prison. I, for one, don't think Snowden deserves to be Bernie Madoff's cellmate given that Snowden has done nothing wrong whatsoever and Madoff screwed billions. Putin is a Rock n' Roll dude and always has my vote over the crazy Americans with Too-BIG-to-JAIL, FAIL, or NAIL.

OCCUPY WALL STREET - OCCUPY EVERYTHING except crazy or my parking spot.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:24 | 5338294 Bangalore Equit...
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Listen Universe.

Russia, consider it if your government has been hijacked by terrists.

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 00:53 | 5339821 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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Russian people will always be my dear friends, but the United States of America is my next door neighbour, and our best friend, and trading partner through NAFTA, and DARPA, NATO, et cetera. I only pick on Americans because I actually care about them, and love them as a neighbour. The Bible exhorts us all to 'love thy neighbour as thyself' and I don't really want to incur God's wrath at this late stage in the game of survival of the fittest. I did not purchase a handcart ride to hell by selling my soul to Satan for bling, chicks with big tits, or money. Most Americans do not occupy the ruling classless kletocratic elite oligopoly of 1% motherfuckers n' slimebags. I like the 99% and will always fight for their rights in this world, but that 1% can take a dirt nap with their entire progeny for all I care. Slow to anger is another Biblical exhortation I abide by.

OCCUPY WALL STREET - OCCUPY EVERYTHING

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 04:48 | 5340139 escapeefromOZ
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Terrorists like Kerry , Obama , General Breelove have hijacked the US government for decades . 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:24 | 5338300 chump666
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The market bleed will be epic. 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:29 | 5338335 ramacers
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the bear can, afterall, make all else moot - right?

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:36 | 5338378 Quantum Nucleonics
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No day's worth of posts would be complete without a post from the Kremlin's ministry of truth.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:36 | 5338379 falconflight
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President Putin, allow me to send you the coordinates most advantageous for us all:  Washington, NYC, Chicago, Atlanta, El A, and San Francisco.  We'll mopped up the rest in Boston, Filthydelpia, Miami, and Portland, Seatle, and Denver.  We'll throw in Dallas and Austin in a black friday special.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 21:17 | 5338626 falconflight
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I guess some dope and peter smoking faggot didn't like my offer to help.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:43 | 5338392 fightapathy
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Putin must have it on his mind that, as a country that dares to trade in something other than dollars, Russia is placed in the same company as Iraq, Libya, Zimbabwe, and Iran -- countries whose leaders were liquidated or whose finances were destroyed. So far, Russia is staying alive. But revenge is on the agenda here. Revenge for daring to trade in something other than USDs.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:38 | 5338393 fightapathy
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One must marvel at Putin's self-control. There is only one nation on planet Earth that refers to other nations as "threats" over and over again. At some point, Putin will have to drop the "partners" rhetoric and refer to the United States as a hostile force that commits wars of aggression. Perhaps the crashing oil prices will wake him up -- a crash engineered as revenge for stepping in the way of the Pentagon's war of aggression planned against Syria in August 2013. Only question is, what does Saudi Arabia want in return for billions lost in this game? I shudder to think...!

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 23:13 | 5339421 Augustus
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When the US is occupying Crimea, then you can declare the country an aggressor.

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 00:47 | 5339806 Volkodav
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well, attempt failed.

Crimeans occupy Crimea.

 

 

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 04:29 | 5340121 Jano
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He did indeed. Read the whole interview, english version, here. He speaks about hostile speach of Hussein Obanana.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article39975.htm

 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:42 | 5338426 theyjustcantstop
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i'm sure the oil devaluation will hurt russia, but the article i read oil is 25%-30% of russias gdp, and it's 95% of saudia arabias gdp.

 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 20:52 | 5338462 chump666
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No probs.  Russia and China go "nuclear" and dumb all the USTs, buy gold, close up boarders.  What does it matter?  America lives of IOUs.  This threat has been coming for years, now, it might materialize.  Iran bombs Saudi Arabia, Iran oil demand skyrockets, oil price spike 'shock' hits.  What is Obama going to do?  China has always said, you shut down the straits of Hormuz, will will sink your fleet, or the while Washington sides with the country that trains Islamic nut cases to kill Americas...all for oil; a resource that comes from the dead, that will kill us all.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 22:30 | 5339149 emersonreturn
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love hearing from you chump666, always interesting insight.

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 04:53 | 5340140 escapeefromOZ
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quote "a resource that comes from the dead, that will kill us all."

Oil doesn't come from the dead ! Oil is produced by the Earth . That was an old theory that has been discarded !

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 23:11 | 5339407 Augustus
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It may be 95% of Saudi GDP.  However, since the cost is less than $10, they actually make up the revenues on volume.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 21:09 | 5338573 Herdee
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Masons,Communists and Jews. Not in any particular order but the conspiracy theories are always with us here.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 22:31 | 5339157 The Chief
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Leave the Masons out of this. Lol!

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 05:19 | 5340171 Jano
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Masons=Jews

Communists=Jews

Jews=Jews

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 21:13 | 5338596 earleflorida
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Russia would be the clear winner in a nuclear war against the USSA.

Russia's land mass is greatly dispersed. It streches from the Atlantic, Arctic, and Pacific Ocean...it is humongous! But, as far[?] as america is concerned... all the serious [pigeon`hole'd] population density lives on, oar`near the coast. Hitting the bread[grain-belt]basket of few states would starve the country.

Russia's higher elevation also helps it from 'Nuclear Fallout'! 

Seriously?

Obama... 'Shouldn't do stupid stuff',...

but wait, who's next to be crown'd Queen is a 71 year-old grandmother that certainly won't mind answering the 'red`phone' at 3AM. with bill sleeping in the Lincoln[Bedding?] Room with Yellen screaming and Monica collecting`Up the evidence for invitro`fertilizer[?]ization-- afterall, 'what does it matter[?]'... with the Trio 'Trysting while masterbating to, 'NAFTA 2.0` On Myne-Mind?, to finnish off the middle-class once and f'oar awe?

jmo

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 22:29 | 5339138 Cthonic
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Earl, the only winning move is not to play.  Let's hope the big 0 sticks with checkers.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 23:08 | 5339395 Augustus
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Any type of calculation of who wins or loses in a nuclear exchange is nonsense.

What ever remains will be a throwback to the 5th century with half the world population remaining in starvation subsistance.

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 00:36 | 5339779 Volkodav
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Russia has civil defense program

but no winner

maybe survivor

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 21:16 | 5338614 falconflight
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The worse it gets, if it does, the more sovereign I am.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 21:21 | 5338662 DOGGONE
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Will the truth be shown?
"The Public Be Suckered"
http://patrick.net/forum/?p=1223928

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 22:32 | 5339161 Miketheterrible
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?

Strange, how come I have not heard it said like this?  As well, Serbian news?

 

http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/754647

 

Different tone.  Now I am wondering, how much of this is good translation and how much of this is contrived?  That said, he mentioned that both nations are nuclear powers, no good to be enemies.  Which in this case, is very true.  Is it a threat?  Well, depends on how you see it.  But this:

http://ria.ru/world/20141016/1028514336.html

has gone unoticed here?

I would say that US has had more open threats towards Russia than reverse.  I would say many of you need to unwind your necks a bit and come back to reality.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 22:39 | 5339197 Miketheterrible
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As for Comments made about Russia giving up on its allies or potential partners:

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/09/10/378299/iran-russia-sign-70bn-eur...

Seems Russia wont back down regards to Iran.  They just witheld a sale of an airdefense system.  As well, Serbia is currently working hard to obtain good business relations with Russia again.

As for so called Russian shock in the economy: http://m.rbth.com/business/2014/10/08/russia_comes_to_terms_with_sanctio...

Many Russian companies, more specifically industrial, are seeing a surge in sales due to falling Ruble.  Only industry hurt from this is oil and gas, which accounts for about 1/3 of the budget of the government Rosstat states.  So in other words, either they will have to adjust the budget to meet the decline in the profits, or they will have to look at other methods of making mad cash, and well, that seems to be contracts for oil/gas to countries like China, and industrial production.

Two good posts:

http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/53841/

and

http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/53803/

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 04:36 | 5340126 Jano
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They witheld their S300. I do not get it why. 

The only reason is not to escalate, because there is no such thing as a defence weapon. Weapon is there to kill and destroy, if somebody call ist defence or somebody calls it attack, the weapon will kill and destroy.

1. for that matter, Iranians have developped their own system comparable to S200. Means less sofisticated and less integrated, but simmilar to S200.

2. to expolit S300 (and above systems, like S400 and now prototype of S500), you need also a superiority in the air. It is only RUssian airforce, which is capable to stand up to US airforce, just in the sheer numbers, now I do not go into qualitative judgements. And Iran would go down in such terms, be it Israeli airforce, or USAF.

Simply it does not give any sense to operate S300 and maybe fire just one salvo, bestroying maybe 10 jets andthen not being able to fend off another 100. Here is assymetrical air defence much better. Manpads and autonomous anitaircraft batteries.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 22:32 | 5339163 Falconsixone
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He's bluffing! at chess?

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 22:55 | 5339317 luckylogger
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You know, everybody here seems to worship the fuking theif putin. Seriously... Why?

They guy runs a kleptography government....

Is it because he just does not give his opponents any chances and just comes out and does it?

The guy has no business controliong the keys to a nuclear bomb , but neither does most others.....

Just wonder ing why you normally level headed fans of this blog have such an obsession with such a blatent theif?

We all hate the bankers and HFT's that are the same as him.

Somehow this dude is on a pedistal....

I think he is a fake dickhead personally........

Come on red arrows....

My record is 56 or so please help me hit a new hi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 22:58 | 5339333 luckylogger
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I gave myself a green arrow.....

So its all on youaalll

Let em fly........

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 23:09 | 5339405 Miketheterrible
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I wont downvote you, but simply put, there has never been any evidence to the accusations against Putin.  Instead, the man has to face the issues he is dealt with, which pretty much stemmed from the 90's and he has had to fix that screwup hard.  What a lot of you may not understand, as it was popular during Yeltsin era which than things are being fixed now, is that many oligarches (whom have power now in Russia, either as opposition or part of his crew) have gained their wealth not by being good businessmen, but by simply taking others stocks from the state run companies that turned private.  Now, it is partially the populations fault, but they were given almost nothing but some stocks, in this case, many traded it for bread because there was no measurement to the value of these stocks so businessmen became rich overnight by giving nothing for these stocks that were worth something.  So now, many of these people are facing persecution not because of Putin per se, but because auditors are now doing what they are supposed to be doing, and seeing that there is a lot of scrupulous activity since 98 to around 2004 - 2007.  Bashneft oil company is just the new one to add to the number, next to Yukos, which Khodorkovsky was pretty much trying to undersell the value of the company to another parent company from London.  Since it held major strategic assets in Russia and the fact it was being undersold, raised a lot of red flags.  Yevtushenkov case is where he obtained Bashneft for a meager sum when someone within the government sold it for next to nothing to Sistema.

It is very easy to try to pinpoint blame of these cases against Putin, but all of these oligarches made their wealth in not so respective maners and used their influence to continue to get support.  So in other words, US style.  Now one can state that this is just pure capitalism and all is fine and dandy.  But this was what was hurting Russia more than Putin simply arresting these people.

While in Ukraine, US is hailing the victory at first of Poroshenko, whom is also an oligarch and made his wealth in the 90's not from selling chocolete, but by simply reselling a lot of soviet industry for short change to westerners, whom in turned shut down many facilities.  I guess he made that wealth into something useful - making a chocolete factory.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 23:26 | 5339496 luckylogger
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He stole Crimeria and don't forget that he stole some guys superbowl ring...............

Look at what is going on with their oil and gas industries right now............

Somebody got theirs stoled from them and the favored one got it all..............

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 23:32 | 5339509 Miketheterrible
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He never stole that superbowl ring. lol

crimea?  What about the referendum?  How come you are not seeing revolts like you are in Ukraine?  You are speaking to a Ukrainian I hope you know.  Not all of us are dilusional.  Nothing going on with the oil and gas industry.  Just sanctions.  If you are talking about Bashneft and Yukos, I explained it. Naftogaz, Rosneft, Lukoil, Gazprom and others are all operating as normal.  Lukoil being partialy British.  Seems to be doing fine.  But that is because there were no discrepencies.

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 01:48 | 5339767 Volkodav
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You are ignorant of these subjects.

Media dumb you down much?

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 05:30 | 5340179 dreadnaught
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you mean "He STOLED Crimeonia"

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 23:31 | 5339520 luckylogger
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Well put- I up-arrowed ya...................

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 00:29 | 5339760 Volkodav
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Poroshenko is prostitition, drugs and arms, and his private gangs intimidate, threaten, beat and murder to steal businesses and factories.

His Father was same before him. Walzman. "Red"mafiya oligarchs

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 00:56 | 5339829 Manipuflation
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My Russian wife has told me that you are in fact a Russian Mr. Volkodav.  I apologize for what I said to you a month or so ago.  You must understand that many come here pretending to be Russians when they are not.  I wish you to accept my apology and look forward to your future posts.  I wish to be friends and someday talk about why women are such as they are.  That discussion may require vodka. 

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 01:52 | 5339909 Volkodav
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forgot that

Where Russia home of your Lady?

I hardly drink

then only Rodnik

 

 

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 00:29 | 5339761 Kill the Bank J...
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It could be that you are the fake dickhead ? 

 

Yes he is the thug for the oligarchs of the tribe , but at least everyone knows that. What about Obama - I guess no oligarchy here, numbnuts  ?

 

He is not invading foreign lands, what about the Nobel Peace Prize winner ? I believe we have bases pretty much everywhere including all around Russia. Do you see any Russian bases in Canada, dickhead ?

I don't think anyone has any allusions about Putin being a KGB thug, it is just that he is much more reasonable than our thugs because he has no power... whereas our thugs are pissing in the hallways everywhere  because there is no one to stop them.

 

That is the difference.

 

 

 

 

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 04:43 | 5340131 Aussiekiwi
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'Just wonder ing why you normally level headed fans of this blog have such an obsession with such a blatent theif?'

 

We like the underdog and don't like bullies

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 05:28 | 5340178 dreadnaught
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well, you are free to move to China if you dont like it you dolt

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 08:54 | 5340654 matrix2012
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I will side for any leader who defies the world's greatest bully, whether he's Fidel Castro, the late Hugo Chavez, Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping, Khamenei, or anyone else.

The Unipolar world is very ugly and very sinister for the humanity!!! If the world must endure the WW3 to stop the mankind enslavement by The Great Satan, let it be!

The enslavement of humanity must be terminated at any cost... I don't want to see the next generations live as slaves.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 23:04 | 5339369 Augustus
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Screw You Putin.

Get out of Crimea and the pain goes away.

If you don't like the price of oil, don't sell yours.  Eat the oil.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 23:14 | 5339419 Miketheterrible
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And yet, Crimea never belonged to Ukraine (I am from Ukraine BTW).  Crimeans didn't even want to be in Ukraine as simply put, Crimea pulled more of the weight and saw a lot less in tax money.  Instead, many of Crimea's infrastructure and industry was slowly dying off.  Add to the fact, majority of the population is Russian, I would say that they voted to be out.  Here is the funny part, after voting out, they celebrated the outcome on the streets.  Only people that were not happy where some Crimean tatars, which their head was calling for terrorist activity in Crimea, shortly after it was found out he was being funded in Poland.  This is why you do not see any protests in Crimea, and people are generally happy and investments they have never seen before, are starting to pour in.

Yet, let us look not too far back, at Kosovo.  No referendum or anything.  Simply put, they forced separated by the whim of NATO from Serbia.  Was there a referendum in Hawaii?

Oil prices be damned, Russia cares more for Crimea than some oil prices.  Hence they wont give it up.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 23:26 | 5339501 luckylogger
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Very well put !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 00:24 | 5339745 Volkodav
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sorry

Crimea is Russia

Crimea is still celebrating

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 01:28 | 5339887 Joenobody12
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Not true. It is "Get out of Syria". 

Not too long ago, the Saudi intelligent chief went to see Putin and told him to stop supporting Syria so they can wipe out Assad - the Sunni vs Shiit shit you know.. And they promise not to screw with the winter Olympic to be held in Sochi. Putin is not Bush or Obama. So instead of giving the Arab a blow job as is customery in the US, he laughed him away. 

Wiping out Assad will make many people happy, including the Israeli. When all big Arabs countries are dismetled into small constantly infighting fractions, Israel will be safe (or so they think). Thus, the Saudi finds a more than ready friend in the winner of the piece of shit prize adminstration. Although the whiteman wanna be does not have a clue, the dual citizens working under him( or above him) know exactly what to do. WW3 be damned. US Shale oil industry be damned. European economy be damned. US citizens be damned. 

The golfer in chief does not know where Crimea is and frankly, if he does not have time for the US , why would he find time for this Crim-something place. 

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 23:35 | 5339538 Joenobody12
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Vlad, it is about time to flex some muscle. Send troops to Syria to wipe out the US supported ISIS and bomb the shit out of Saudi oil wells. That would stop the No bel piece of shit prize winner from starting WW3.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 23:43 | 5339581 Miketheterrible
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A lot of people outside of Russia would like that.  But here is the thing, Russia is (believe it or not, whatever your choice is) a democratic state meaning that during election time, Putin's wrong moves may cost him his position like it almost did before this whole sanctions thing went out of control (last elections, his popularity was only 67%, lowest point.  Still, better to vote for than anyone else in Russia...).  This era, Russian's are all about peace loving beatniks as one would say, and none wants war or confrontation, so Putin's hands are somewhat tied.  He simply cannot bomb a nation or simply send young Russian's to go and serve in Syria.

But I think the general purpose of the law regarding PMC's in Russia may be this other method in bypassing the issue.  The company RSB is technically a PMC company but only deals with security overseas and domestic for Russina businesses.  Now, who is to say they haven't already sent people?  It is well known that many Syrians are still being trained by Russia and gear is still being sent to Syrian government to fight.  If Russia gets directly involved, Putin will be seen by his own people as someone interfereing in other nations affairs, and if any Russian dies, he will get into trouble big time back home.  If the person volunteers lets say, then there is no stopping them (like is comments in eastern Ukraine).

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 04:41 | 5340130 Aussiekiwi
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Sounds like Russia is more democratic that the US. In the US no matter which party you vote for you end up with the same policies.

Wed, 10/15/2014 - 23:48 | 5339599 the not so migh...
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I have benn looking at william taply videoss,  Putin is king of the north, obama is king of the south,  king of the north wins this one

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 01:05 | 5339652 Amerikan Patriot
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Remember, Zero Hedgers, Russia always 'plays the long game' - remember, they're master chess players, for Pete's sake! 

For instance, they diassembled and are now reassembling the Soviet Union. Except it was easier taking it apart than it is now putting it back together again.  Ah, details.

And then there's the Soviets' 10-year war in Afghanistan.  Those cunning Russians - they planned the loss from the beginning!

But wait, we almost forgot about the Soviet Union's clever strategy during WWII: Believe Hitler when he tells you Russia's safe and he doesn't plan on invading you.  Then fight Hitler and lose more men during the war than any other country.

Don't ever underestimate those crafty Russians!  :-)

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 01:06 | 5339858 Ventnor
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Dear Amerikan Patriot --

No, Russia is not attempting to "re-assemble" the USSR.  

There is no evidence in Russia of a return to the dictatorship of the proletariat, the leading role of the party, state ownership of the economy, offical atheism or any of the other facets of Soviet rule.

The USSR was the llving embodiment of the One, True Doctrine of Marxism-Leninism. It was the ideology or it was nothing. When Solzhenistyn destroyed it -- with the publication of The Gulag Archipelago -- the writing was on the wall.

Russia today is an amalgam of things held over from the USSR, and bits of pre-revolutionary Russia that survived the Red holocaust, and some pragmatic modeern innovations.  It is this heady brew of contradictory things that makes Russia the most exciting country in Europe today.  

 

 

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 00:31 | 5339764 royal
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Putin has every reason to be pissed. 

Russias getting screwed for no good cause. 

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 00:57 | 5339839 talisman
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Leon Panetta described a 2010 briefing in Seoul by General Walter L. ‘Skip’ Sharp, the commander of US forces in South Korea, where it was made clear that the nuclear option was on the table if North Korean forces crossed into the demilitarized zone (DMZ) between the North and the South.

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 01:36 | 5339921 Ecosutra
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I don't understand why Putin won't come out and say the petro dollar won't bully Russia?

Or "hey America, Imagine If Houston said their refinery was going to become an independent state and was going to break from America?

Or "if the EU wants to frack Ukraine and keep the profits for the petro dollar eliminating Russia why dont you just come out and say it?

Or " does America realize they are supporting a fascist neo nazi take over of the Ukraine to frack for the petro dollar?

Why doesn't Putin bring online green energy integrated systems as a counter attack to the petro dollar? What does he have to loose?

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 01:58 | 5339953 corbeau
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The american presidents have never been intellectual monsters, but this one beats all records.

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 02:07 | 5339957 onmail
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Obbama is taking the whole world into hell.

A liar like a Nazi spokesperson.

Nothing but a juice stooge.

Juice now ruling America and they want their revenge on Russia irrespective of consequences.

Its Armegeddon .

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 02:08 | 5339966 rbblum
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As though Obama would declare his own administration as a major threat to the United States of America; a constitutional republic. 

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 02:48 | 5340017 Obamanism
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Putin is escalating as his biggest ally is coming to help him. THE WINTER.

Revenge is best served COLD.

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 04:27 | 5340119 Jano
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Interview of Putin in POLITIKA, serbian language and the comments of the readers:

http://www.politika.rs/rubrike/Politika/Ekskluzivno-Vladimir-Putin-za-Po...

Most important, more important, then economy, or to the new enemy, as the Hussein Kenya Obanana stated on 24.9.2014 at the UN GA, more important to me are Putin's comments about the Nuernberg tribunals and Nacification of EU.
Hope to see in a new Nuernberg tribunal some american citizens (most of them dual citizens) hanging.

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 04:37 | 5340125 Aussiekiwi
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Putin gently pointing out to Obama that Russia is not Iran, to think that Russia will sit idly by and allow the US to continually squeeze and isolate it is not going to happen, its foolish and the repercussions will result in an escalation that the US will not like.

Unfortunately the arrogance of Obama in thinking he can just isolate countries and cripple their economies if he does not get what he wants is not going to be something that Russia will tolerate, a serious miscalculation, it will be too late by the time Obama realizes his mistake, the die will have been cast..

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 05:00 | 5340146 NuYawkFrankie
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USSA = Rogue State

(As if it needs repeating)

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 07:51 | 5340408 headhunt
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Led by the leftists in New York - communist central next to D.C.

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 05:00 | 5340148 Kina
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How long before extremists..terrorist use Ebola as a tool.

Any volunteers to contract ebola and then wander around, Israel, Anchora, London..... You know the terrorist suicide bombers would be only too happy to do this.....

 

Requires one to infiltrate a State/Country...and then willing domestic lab rats to meet with this vector...to deliberately catch it ..... then joing the trains and buses and shopping centres.... Nightmare scenario...

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 05:05 | 5340152 Kina
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The USA is dead scared of Europe and Russia integrated on friendly terms over the future.

Thus their hard push to create conflict within Europe and with Russia...but ultimately it is very destructive to Europe...whilst USA sits backs and laugh at their puppet fools.

 

We know Cameron (UK) is the USA's fuck doll for a long while now, But is Merkle another traitor sell out like Cameron etc....? Will she put US interests before Germans and Europeanes...a traitor to her people and country? Wait and see...

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 05:05 | 5340155 americhinaman
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putin has a combination of superior foresight and a real ability to steer global markets.  everything he's done recently has helped russia tremendously, both in monetary terms and in non-western political opinion.  case in point: it's public knowledge that he had been accumulating USD/treasuries for quite some time (until quite recently), and at some point changed tactics and told his advisors to keep an eye on 40 usdrub.  that was the level at which they would start taking profits, or as western media triumphantly declares, "defending the ruble".  it's the western way of claiming "putin is losing and on his heels defending himself".

just as he implictly predicted, economic/financial storms have erupted as 40 was breached.  in the process of his "defending" the ruble, he happens to be covering a massive short RUB short position (i.e. positive forex reserves are funded by shorting one's own currency) at all time lows and selling treasuries near all time highs.  thetreasuries were accumulated over decades from about 10% - 2.5% yield at 20-30 usdrub, so he's got gains of ~50% in price appreciation plus whatever carry the treasuries have generated.  that's a few hundred billion dollars in profit!  his monetary actions have clearly been a huge win.

at the same time, global opinion of the USA is (sadly for us Americans) declining even faster than under bush.  we aren't fooling anyone but ourselves and (some of) our allies with sanctions on russia being anything more than political retaliation for losing face in syria (remember the WMDs!).  read the archives of any non-western/NATO news source if you're curious.  meanwhile, domestic and international opinion (by non-western/NATO nations) of putin and russia is at all-time-highs... most critically including china and most of the emerging world, for that matter.  so politically, other than his lost causes of the USA/NATO, he's not "losing" or "defending" anything either.

a couple notes... 1) back to his USD liquidation, he's operating on pace to finish the course of a year +/- depending on how price levels develop.  i would guess that this rate/timing is based on a view on when the US might face its own sovereign confidence crisis.  meanwhile, he's accumulating gold at a measured pace (roughly speaking, he is taking the PnL from his treasury/USD trade and putting it into gold).  he's left russia with an increasingly large pile of gold, which he spent 0 net expenditure to acquire... absolutely brilliant!  2) i would imagine he felt safe publicly declaring 40 as the trigger because western media/populations don't listen to or believe what he says anyways, or perhaps he knew the western media (and ZH for that matter...) stories that suggest russia would be in trouble if their forex reserves decline are complete and utter nonsense.  russia has little net foreign debt and a trade surplus even with oil at these prices.  as a trump card, they also have a large amount of net foreign assets INSIDE russia (i.e. can be confiscated if sanctions deteriorate)... which conveniently, western sanctions have prevented from leaving!

putin (and/or his advisors) is an absolute genius AND he can manipulate markets.  this is a potent combination, and he's using it to line his country's coffers.  russians have their own gas to stay warm going into winter, as well as warming relations with the biggest real economy and manufacturer in the world.  seems to me he has positioned himself and his country as well as possible, given recent history and the plausible outcomes going forward.

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 07:38 | 5340375 Duude
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You clearly have no idea what's going on. The ruble is circling the drain. Inflation was 6% earlier this year, now its 8%.  Putin's natural gas threat may have been scrambled because European nations have been storing up large amounts of natural gas for the winter months.  Crude oil is still falling as I type. Russia is now starting to run deficits while its people are feeling the bite of inflation.  Putin's puppet regime in Syria is losing its battle with ISIS, and the US isn't setting foot in that country.   Putin pulled back his troops from the Ukrainian border recently because he's feeling the pain of sanctions.  Now he's lashing out.  

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 08:25 | 5340553 Miketheterrible
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I think you are over estimating your knowledge in what is happening in Russia.

 

Trade surplus up 11.9%: http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/53699/

Consolidated budget increased 1.8 times: http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/53803/

Industrial production is also up: http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/53841/

Any loss to this years budget can be mitigated by reserve funds set up specifically to deal with this.

As well, add the rhetorics of the west, this isnt even lashing out as you may think. This is people giving their own narrative to what was said. I posted this info already. As well, info above is from rosstats, not silly bloomberg or other organizations in west run by criminals.

Inflation is barely noticeable, and easily do able for most Russians as average wage grew faster than prices of goods. Only thing it touched was imports and barely.

So please, next time, do a bit more research.

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 11:59 | 5341770 JAFAH
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Dude, what has the average inflation rate been in Russia over the past 15 years? 6-8% is pretty low. I bought a used opel in Moscow and sold it 4 years later for 500$ less than I paid, thanks inflation!

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 07:51 | 5340405 headhunt
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Have another vodka - it will continue to help your delusion.

If Russia sold all of it's US holdings it would be a minor blip on the financial radar.

Look at their holdings and the daily transactions amounts - a hiccup.

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 06:29 | 5340230 chasman
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So, can I assume Putin and Barry are not having a sleep over this weekend?

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 06:35 | 5340233 chasman
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Keep it up Obama and push Putin allllllllll the way into the corner. So, which one is the RAT, Obama or Putin....you decied who is a better chess player

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 07:32 | 5340354 Duude
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Apparently, sanctions are having an effect on Putin.  He's acting like he's caught in a bear trap, lashing out at others that get close.

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 08:33 | 5340554 matrix2012
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Putin, I hope you do take real counteractions along with your words. Words only are futile to the dumb ears of the Great Satan Axis; basically I believe they only take real actions, and only when it's seriously biting then they will recognize and hopefully retreat,,,otherwise they will keep on trying, relentlessly....until they succeed to conquer, or they get collapsed!

The same message goes to China too. If RUS down, then YOU, China, is the next immediate target!!

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 08:53 | 5340644 Miketheterrible
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Many of you guys are off quite a bit. Here is the situation:

Ukraine had a democratically elected leader (I didnt vote) whom would have lost the upcoming elections that would be in October. But instead, was overthrown by angry, armed mob (undemocratic)

Most of eastern Ukraine was mad as they were main voters of Yanukovich, and were already seeing groups like Svoboda take advantage od the situation, and thus started their own militia to protect themselves. After Odessa case, things got really out of control and the militia in DNR and Lughansk started to dig in their positions.

Crimea was also getting scared as groups from Maiden made their way there to try and instigate problems but thankfully, Berkut (what was left of them) stopped them and told them to turn around and leave. Russian troops then came in (mostly from already base in sevestopol) and allowed Crimeans to decide for themselves, which they chose to re-integrate with Russia (cant blame them as in 1954, they didnt have a choice when they were forced to join Ukraine SSR jurisdiction just because of the land connection; add also to the fact they were being deprived economically).

Obama and his people placed sanctions on Russia not because of the rebels but because they want that Crimean land for itself, as it is nicknamed the unsinkable carrier of the black sea. A real strategic point.

Many Russians whom were pro American are no longer due to being thrown under the bus and Russia is facing sanctions from EU and US. As US and Russian trade was as little as 2%, EU and Russias trade was massive. This is a huge market gone. But the shining light in this is a couple of things: they now starting to bring back home production rather than simple imports of everything. So now many metalurgy companies are seeing profits from both export and domesic consumption. As well, majority of goods from EU can come from China and so they looked to China.

So Obama and crew knew that whatever they were doing isnt working so maybe they are influencing oil prices (I doubt it) to try and sting Russia. As oil and gas account for around 25% of Russian consolidated budget, that can really hurt. But, contracts are already signed and only one is missing, and that is a new gas contract (another) with China.

What Putin is mad about is more about lack of communication and actual effort in trying to work things out. The thing is, they found alternative markets already. Oil price fluctuation was something they knew would happen one day. But many enterprises wanting to work in russia or whom were working in Russia are now not given the chance. As well, many assets were being frozen in west of many Russians so much money was lost. Russia has backed US many times (Afghanistan, Lybia, anti terrorism) but they are continuously getting stabbed in the back. 

What I am more concerned about is the lazyness of my people (Ukraine) in dealing with the government and Svoboda. Many people are not happy with them, but they are not doing anything about it. I can see how easy it is to brainwash people were I am from Lviv, because of many being part Polish and they have a strange hatred of anything Russian, but rest of the people are normal and just want good relations with everyone.

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 14:08 | 5342499 joe90
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Thu, 10/16/2014 - 09:14 | 5340762 dsty
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It seems to me that the action that may be taken by these manuevers will eventualy end in another NYC disaster.

Center of commerce hit, perhaps very devistating to US economy this time'

Pro Russian troops in Ukraine have also been quite brutal to Ukraine churches that are not Catholic Orthodox

Something that has not been mentioned here

The Beast arises

Ukraine: Christians Threatened with Firing Squads, Pastors Held Hostage

http://www.christianheadlines.com/blog/ukraine-christians-threatened-with-firing-squads-pastors-held-hostage.html

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 09:17 | 5340784 Vin
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Hey Putin, here's an idea.  Instead of using nuclear weapons against the American people, just target every estate of every member of the Rothschild family with non-nuclear weapons.  Poof!  Problems solved.

Thu, 10/16/2014 - 10:41 | 5341252 gcjohns1971
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I don't get down-voted and called a troll because I blame the US, the EU, and China for what they do.

I get down-voted and called a troll because I also blame Russia.

But I will be down-voted if I call that unrealistic and intolerant.

 

While all of you are jockeying for power, influence, and status you are welcome to imagine yourselves as saints.

You can imagine that conflict leads to glory.

You can imagine that nuclear war has a winner.

And you can imagine that killing some number of people whether one, or thousands, or millions, to achieve status is a good thing.

But the truth is that these things are imaginary.

And the universe destroys those who do not acknowledge the truth.

I am going to change my name to "Just The Messenger".

Fri, 10/17/2014 - 13:22 | 5347549 MeelionDollerBogus
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I got a genius plan. Let's have all UN meetings in the Fukushima prefecture. And G20 meetings.

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