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Second Texas Healthcare Worker Tests Positive For Ebola
And then there were three.
As the Texas Department of State Health reported an hour ago, just three days after the shocking announcement that the late Thomas Eric Duncan had managed to infect one nurse in the first person-to-person transmission of Ebola on US ground, a second Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital worker has been infected with the deadly virus.
From the official statement:
Second Health Care Worker Tests Positive for Ebola
News Release
Oct. 15, 2014
A second health care worker at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital who provided care for the first Ebola patient diagnosed in the United States has tested positive for the disease.
The health care worker reported a fever Tuesday and was immediately isolated at the hospital.
Health officials have interviewed the latest patient to quickly identify any contacts or potential exposures, and those people will be monitored. The type of monitoring depends on the nature of their interactions and the potential they were exposed to the virus.
The worker was among those who took care of Thomas Eric Duncan after he was diagnosed with Ebola.
The preliminary Ebola test was run late Tuesday at the state public health laboratory in Austin, and results were received at about midnight.
Confirmatory testing on a separate specimen will be conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.
Ebola is spread through direct contact with bodily fluids of a sick person or exposure to contaminated objects such as needles. People are not contagious before symptoms such as fever develop.
Surely the CDC's Tom Frieden will say this is perfectly expected: after all the CDC, which promised it would "stop Ebola in its tracks in the US" just two weeks ago, changed its tune and said to expect more cases.
As of this moment, equity futures are not happy, and certainly not transports, which after a seesaw session in which airline stocks rebounded following a deep oversold condition, are about to become even more oversold as the US public responds to increasingly unpleasant Ebola pandemic news by deciding to "just stay home this weekend."
And now we await the CDC to explain how this is all due to another breach in protocol for a disease which still is clearly not airborne.
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Resign, Dr. Frieden.
Resign, Dr. Nancy Snyderman. You disgrace.
Oddly, his Wiki entry does not carry any real personal information such as birth place or date, religion, if he is a dual national, who his father was, it does say who his brothers were. I searched high and low and was able to find [outside of Wiki] that he was born in 1960 in upper Manhattan. Unable to find religion, nationality as to dual, mother's name, only eduation and what he did professionaly, and that he is a Democrat. I did find some tidbits, he worked as a "community organizer" before attending medical school, before and after graduating from Columbia with a master's degree in 1986, he went on medical missions to Nicaragua in conjunction with the Nicaraguan Ministry of Health. This means he worked directly with the Sandinista government.
So we have a possible dual national who is trying to scrub his early history as a communist agitator.
Hang 'em high.
Arrest Freiden, try him for murder when the first Ebola patient dies. This was totally preventable...
If I was a healthcare worker who had to take care of an Ebola patient, I would tell the hospital Admiistrator, FUCK YOU. You take care of them.
Healthcare professionals as human canaries in America's hospitals thanks to Dr. Frieden and Obola.
Keep those African flights coming...we'll draft healthcare workers if we have too.
There will be an entire new branch of Healthcare...Ebolacare. Enroll today...
They can't shut down those flights. They just can't. Cause it would mean Obama and the CDC were wrong and naive and incompetent and stupid. It's better to let the people die and hospitals to go bankrupt than admit that. Forward!
Again, this is not about being wrong, naive and stupid. This is about - some people need this to happen right now.
The hospital administrator should be up on attempted murder charge!
They knew the risks, and didn't provide a safe work environment.
Just plain stupid every step of the way.
This is one of the finer sides of the "corporations are people" imagining. Corporations are better than people in this respect. If I were to say, kill someone "accidentally" because I'm an ignorant dumbass (this happens with cars alot), then I can be tried for manslaughter and go to prison (specially if ah've been drankin'). This almost never happens when a corporation is negligent--it's usually fines and lawsuits.
As you say, they didn't provide a safe work environment. I would imagine they will be sued by whoever got it from that exposure.
Sad that it takes tragedy to reveal just what a bloated turd our healthcare system is--costs go up 5+% a year and they are apparently run by a bunch of jokers. Who would have thought in a business that profits from an inherent form of extortion: Hey you don't want to die, do you?
Government's handling of this isn't any better. It's all the same people anyways. Was wondering what bad news was coming after yesterday's news conference announcing the formation of the "E-Team." I'm sure that nothing will go wrong when a disease that has been amazingly sucessful at passing to healthcare workers is being treated by people that are being helicoptered all over the country.
Why would a for-profit company even treat an ebola case willingly? I won't be surprised when Presby is closed, as it is now the Ebola Hospital as far as the US is concerned. Maybe they are holding out till more people get it. Then--WINDFALL PROFITS. And that's what really matters.
They're not going to get sued. They can probably show that the nurses broke CDC protocol.
Of course, the protocol is probably the size of a telephone book. So as long as they followed every line of a book they have most likely never seen.....they should be sucessfull.
Please read this. THERE WAS NO PROTOCOL.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/health/texas-ebola-nurses-union-claims/ind...
We have been shown the signs of why The Simpsons were created.
We were forewarned.
30 years the CDC had to protect and defend.
How about leaving sick asap and go home. Bail on the assholes.
There you go, that's how to remain calm...
Exactly!
"You want me to wear two pairs of gloves, suit, n100 mask, sealed goggles... but then wrap some thin fabric medical tape around my neck? Fuck you, you fucking ass hole fuck. I quit."
Whatever hospital admin that failed their hard working medical staff, better pray to God the next infected nurse or doctor doesn't decide to lick their boss's coffee spoon just before announcing they have a fever coming on.
We know what wer doing here, trust us, the chinese trusted the Japs when they made disease study test dummies of them, and never complained. Plus we are going to need a lot of workers dedicated to cleaning up the mess made here from the lost war on hunger.
Heckuva job Frieden! Remind me why the American people are putting up with this level of incompetence and criminality again at all levels of government?
"Remind me why..." Well, number #1, there's television. #2 and #3, print media and radio. #4, probably Lois Lehrner and her evil ilk. #5, probably some pharma, directly administered and/or hiddden in the food and water of the sheeples and their loved ones.
I have told you guys that there is no turning back till the 1% vampires are decides to stop the chase.
THE SOLUTION IS TO BURN DOWN WHITEHOUSE AND BUILD A GREENHOUSE. Ofcourse, this is not possible.
SO, PROTECT YOURSELF AND STOP HOPING ON CDC ( Center for Disease Circulation)
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/6b/6b00f089df5f570f44bbca8384abb926d62c908c...
And ... none of his family has come down with?
That be curious
Either it is being covered up, or it is a massive "tell" about the whole situation.
After they got Duncan admitted and went home, the step daughter sprayed the whole apartment with a Clorox solution. She would not let her mother sleep in the bed. That Liberian woman may be more effective at protecting her own than the entire CDC is at protecting us. The daughter was the one who told the EMTs to go back and get protective clothing before they entered the apartment.
Well, someone from plumbing will have to see about the daughter. She's screwing up the whole program.
This tidbit of info (clorox spray) might be life-saving (albeit messy). I currently use professional chlorox wipes (with actual chlorox, not just the brand name) in my car after I walk through the dried-vomit stained and bloody-tissue littered major metropolitan center city hospital garage.....not that we have any OFFICIAL ebola cases, mind you. This is my first post, be gentle....
You want your Ebola, You can keep your Ebola.
Wrap some tape around your neck like a mummy, that'll work
No one expects CDC to contain it. It's going to spread no matter what we do. I hope that it doesn't spread like spainish flu. We'll find out in a couple of months i suppose.
Once things go fully into the dumpster and medieval...bring out your dead...then probably 5% will survive instead of 30% survival with modern medicine.
It must be contained. There is not a word about Duncans family that was quarantined several weeks back............they must be OK.
According to Obama, the solution is to send TSA screeners to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital to ensure that no one entering the hospital is sick.
I'm down with that.
100%
Ebola man Duncan failed all the normal requirements for a visa. Let in by the illegal and criminal progressive "open borders" policy intended to import a voter base to cement progressive power and tyranny forever. At the expense of American citizen lives. The Obola regime criminals actively and blatantly defy the law to allow illegal alien crime and disease into the country. The rest of the FEDGOV aids and abets. Risk of death is now off the charts but the borders still are not sealed.
This is willful and intentional murder by government. Thousands of Americans have died already from crime and disease at the hands of the illegal hordes allowed by this criminal and illegal policy.
Americans live in fear of being murdered by the bloody progressive criminals infesting the FEDGOV.
Arrests are necessary, like fucking yesterday.
In case you missed it, government is the biggest murderer ever.
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/MURDER.HTM
Limited government is the answer.
Grimaldus
there goes texas....
normally, in a disaster movie, it's always like "EUROPE WAS THE FIRST TO GET HIT!" "PARIS IS DESTROYED!" "THE FIRST METEOR FELL ON LONDON!" blablabla...
I guess it's karma :)
but I guess we all know now what needs to be done...
http://www.wimp.com/nucleartests/
not really in the first red dawn they nuked Texas and marched their army from the south untill we stopped them at Nebraska
And no nukes if it's the Andromeda Strain!
Zombie Land is moar like it
Nebraska :) the only reason why people stop there is when they run out of gas :)
I stopped. Winter of '81. Tire blowout on I-80.
I-80......the dope interstate HIGHway.
Mass illegal alien conduit as well.
Paris...Texas.
Done.
Dallas got wiped out in "Asteroid"
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118261/
Do Central American countries have a CDC equivalent or is the WHO in charge there? Mexicans may want to know so they can close their border.
Your up early Tyler! cant sleep?
I dont see how these workers at this stage have not passed it onto there immediate family. In Dubai we greet each other with a kiss and a shake of a hand in 40 degrees heat. We be fucked if its here (not just contained on the Emirates flights!)
Zero Hedge.
Winning.
ZH has an almost religious following of people in cmvarious time zones.
And a devote following of insomniacs..
Along with nymphomaniacs, hypochondriacs, and assorted maniacs.
I check ZH every morning just to see if I need to make the bed.
At this rate, you might as well go ahead and start sleeping in a coffin!
IPO your idea...fast! Make sure there is place to charge iCrap.
Maybe a self-help auto-crematorium, HCL based. Do you feel Ebolized ?...sign this form and get in here and push this button.
Logan's Run...meltdown the corpse.
Run, Logan, run !
Dismal stuff.
so... you're wife's in charge he?
SD, spill the beans: is the new Belgian Health Minister your first cousin or your second cousin?
Her name is Magie De Block :)
Actually, looks aside, she's one of the best ministers we've got.
She has been the only minister who was able to kick out illegal aliens!
And Mongo!
Present!
Tyler was up early counting his current payout from the fucking Prudential pop up ads.
They seem to spawn as fast as Ebola right now.
Does Prudential really think that type of advertising is going to endear us and make us run to the phones?
I don't see those. Is it just you?
Nobody goes in or out of texas! Nobody, get out while you still can.
That might be a bit hasty, considering there are 27 million people in Texas and only 2 currently have ebola, both in the same setting... Might be time to back off the caffeine a bit...
Exactly.
That would stop the flow of Camacho's Little Dreamers.
Can't have that.
Besides, if you can't stop flights in from W Africa, what's sealing up Tejas gonna do?
Well Tom, stick that in your pipe and smoke it you useless meat bag, tax payer funded, lying, condecending, piece of dog shit.
Dual-citizen Tom is doing what he gets paid to do.
don't forget this little snippet from yesterday!
US identifies 76 health care workers at risk for Ebola http://u.afp.com/BRw
CDC Director Tom Frieden will not make it until the end of October before he gets whacked.....
The Secret Service Director lady got whacked last month for a whole lot less than Frieden.
Unless they can find a different scapegoat to sacrifice upon the altar?
You can't just dump Tom. Its not like he's a Hindoo or a Mexican.
Can't be by nail gun, those are reserved for banksters. I lay odds one of the victims of "bad protocol" kidnaps him, locks him in a room, and bleeds on him.
Nah, he will mysteriously come down with ebola... Seems fitting...
I heard that the CDC is a private organization, and therefore does not answer to the people.
ok >>>defund the useless shits then
the people...
http://www.google.be/imgres?imgurl=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.wp.com%2Flittlebylist...
do you know how armegedon looks like for "the people"?
http://thinktraffic.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/tv.jpg
no tv...
I saw that tv at Goodwill when I was dropping off unfashionable clothes.
Something is very wrong here. Staff on that nursing wing should not drink water out of the nursing station dispenser or eat donuts brought by 'staff' that day. Based on the ridiculous transmission success of the virus upon fully geared and educated staff who responded in west Africa, transmission has to be achieved by some yet unknown design, and it ain't via airborne particulate or touching fluids. Seems like pure evil is afoot here if you ask me
Sticky situation isn't it? Soon it will pour out the pours of the walking dead so much so you will smell it coming, and going.
Agreed, none of this is adding up at all...at least from the info we have on this virus...
Duncan's contacts prior to admission should be dropping dirty by now...?
Maybe infections are not being reported. On the other hand, you can carry the virus for many days, up to 21, I recall, w/o symptoms.
"Seems like pure evil is afoot here if you ask me"
Deceit and incompetence at least. Throw in a little malice and you've got your pure evil. After only two cases here, one begins to understand why health care workers are so untrusted in West Africa. Voodoo and superstition, isn't that what Western media chalks this 'irrational fear' up to?
This is becoming more and more like a Stephen King novel.
Here you go..."Halloween ready".
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Texas/2014/10/14/Texas-Ebola-Hospital-Cafeteria-Becomes-Ghost-Town
If donuts carry Obola, we will be cop free in 60 days.
"If you like your ebola-free country, you can keep it!" - The Wan
They should fly in Hank, Tiny Tim, helicopter Ben and Obozo himself to pitch in at ground zero. Take care of our nagging, unreconciled problems in one fell swoop
And then parachute them into Raqqa, Syria ;-)
Better to stake them out in the sun, then pour african fire ants all over them, then put it on PPV... I'd pay $49.95 for that show...
Taken without permission from a different website. Sorry.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jvchamary/2014/10/13/ebola-travel/
steven Cohen- Musial 1 day ago
I have been a biochemist and cell biologist working for a large pharmaceutical
company for 30 years (now early retired). I have worked and brought to
market the 2nd AIDS drug (ddI, didanosine) and numerous other projects
related to cancer drug development to modulating the bodies immune
system to treat auto-immune disease.
The title of this author’s article is very irresponsible when considering the
computer data showing a 80% reduction in travel drops the case importation
DRAMATICALLY.
It would be almost impossible for an EBOLA patient to travel overland in an
attempt to take a boat somewhere because of the severe, debilitating
nature of the disease after a fever begins.
I totally agree with sending U.S. soldiers over to Liberia as the infection rate
and mortality is becoming exponential in nature and a military presence with
CDC, WHO supervision is needed to break the infection rate.
This IS NOT the time to open our borders (again) and say “give us your
tired, your poor, your EBOLA masses yearning to get sick on us!
Yet you just did by sending troops over there, should some of them get the bug the first thing they will do is send them back here for treatment. If left alone and not allowed to travel out of infected countries, the plague would resolve itsself over time. At a 20-1 care ratio over 21 days, the system could very well be overwhelmed and abandoned quickly, but we didn't see that coming because the accountant is still crunching the #'s on the odds.
Nice, throw the grunts under the bus. They didn't sign up to be Obola test subjects.
doctors and trained medical staff should treat the ebola patients. i'm not sure that young kids soldiers have the temperment and the training to do this work. To do sterile feild work you have to move very by the numbers, every time, this hand does this, you put this glove here, you put your finger here without touching the other side. If you make a mistake you could put your patient at risk. With ebola the consequences are more severe.
Why in the world do US voters keep electing liars par excellence? Is it really possible, or even true, that the current crop of liberal activists want the population of the USA to be reduced this way? Clearly border control policies have a hand in this situation but NFL fans, iPhone drones, etc aren't paying attention.
It's worse than that, you just proved that the constitution is flawed. There is no provision for a % of voters to participate in elections. So should the 99% refuse to vote, the 1% could still vote themselves in office and carry on any way they see fit. Now that's funk.
The truth is too fucking ugly.we pay extra for really good liars, those who could have never seen it coming.
Diebold is very efficient in vote counting.
Scored 100% in some places in the last election......shattering the statistical improbabilities.
Why in the world do US voters keep electing liars par excellence?
Because that is the only type of people that run for office in the US... Next question...
That are ALLOWED to run for office.
the choice is made before the voting part by those who decide who gets campaign funding and who doesn't. that's the critical step.
CDC Ebola Safety Protocols For Hospitals Recommend Only A Facemask... Yet USAMRIID & University Studies Clearly State Respirators Are REQUIRED
With the current CDC safety protocols for hospital workers dealing with possible & confirmed Ebola cases, US healthcare system is has been duped.Hospitals in the U.S. Get Ready for Ebola says CDC:
The C.D.C. says that health care workers treating Ebola patients need only wear gloves, a fluid-resistant gown, eye protection and a face mask to prevent becoming infected with the virus. That is a far cry from the head-to-toe “moon suits” doctors, nurses and aides have been seeing on television reports about the outbreak.
Some hospital officials are skeptical of the new advice. “It’s not going to be enough for my health care workers to feel comfortable going into an isolation room,” said Peggy Thompson, the director of infection prevention at Tampa General Hospital.
[link to www.nytimes.com]
[link to www.cdc.gov]
In contrast to this statement from the CDC, here is what the U.S. military has been saying since 2005 about dealing with Ebola and other forms of Hemorrhagic Fever:
USAMRIID’s MEDICAL MANAGEMENT OF BIOLOGICAL CASUALTIES HANDBOOK - Sixth Edition - April 2005
VIRAL HEMORRHAGIC FEVER
Isolation and Decontamination:
All VHF patients should be cared for using strict contact precautions, including hand hygiene double gloves, gowns, shoe and leg coverings, and faceshield or goggles. Airborne precautions should be instituted to the maximum extent possible. At a minimum, a fit-tested, HEPA filter-equipped respirator(such as an N-95 mask), a battery-powered, air-purifying respirator, or a positive pressure supplied air respirator should be worn by personnel sharing an enclosed space with or coming within six feet of a VHF patient. Multiple patients should be cohorted to a separate building or a ward with an isolated air-handling system. Ideally, VHF patients should be isolated in a negative pressure isolation room with 6-12 air exchanges per hour. Environmental decontamination is accomplished with hypochlorite or phenolic disinfectants.
[link to www.dhhr.wv.gov]
Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy - University of Minnesota:
Health workers need optimal respiratory protection for EbolaWe believe there is scientific and epidemiologic evidence that Ebola virus has the potential to be transmitted via infectious aerosol particles both near and at a distance from infected patients, which means that healthcare workers should be wearing respirators, not facemasks.
The minimum level of protection in high-risk settings should be a respirator with an assigned protection factor greater than 10. A powered air-purifying respirator (PAPR) with a hood or helmet offers many advantages over an N95 filtering facepiece or similar respirator, being more protective, comfortable, and cost-effective in the long run.
[link to www.cidrap.umn.edu] The average man on the street seems to know this as well. So we know what to do. The question is why are we being told to do something we know is unsafe, and that will actually kill innocent people. Doesn't this amount to crimial negligence by our own government -- at a minimum?
Gadfly
I think this should not be underestimated isolated air-handling system.
Always ill when been flying on a plane.
Germs get spread through Air handling system!
On a different thread, someone said that the air is heated to 500 F by the engines before it goes back to the cabin. But the air still circulates in the cabin.
1Inthebeginning
Yes I am sure every Hopital has a Jet engine laying around.
never mind Care Workers frequent places with Air Handling units not connected to jet engines LOL
good point. hospital isolation rooms are expected to have filtered or segregated ventilation systems. it woul be unfortunate for an ebola patient to be in a regular room and contaminate the whole hospital.
Not true. The initial air for pressurizing the cabin is tapped off of engine compressor bleed air (which is very hot) and the outflow valve located in the fuselage retains the air as necessary to maintain cabin pressure. The air handling units, located downstream of the engine bleed, serve to cool the bleed air by routing outside cool air around the bleed air tubes as called for by the cabin temp controller, usually pilot controlled. There are recirulating fans that serve to move air inside the cabin around. They also direct the air through either the gaspers (that nozzle above your head in the cabin) or through overhead vents in the ceiling. They do go through air filters at some point in the recirulating system but I doubt that these filters would be considered adequate for the purposes of ebola containment. So no, air in the cabin does not go back through a device that heats the air to 500 degrees. The good news is that at cruising altitude the cabin is fairly "leaky" due to pressuization that is around 9lbs per sq inch on the fuselage walls, so that the air in the cabin is constantly being replaced by outside air. I don't recall how rapidly this actually occurs but it is "frequent".
There are some airframes that have auxillary electric heaters to augment cabin air temps, I'm not familiar with which models have these. I don't believe that all the air is routed through these heaters nor would I know what temp they would heat the air to. They usually would "mix" the air with the ambient inside air to increase the temp, as opposed to routing all the air through them. Either way, the systems aren't set up to "sterilize' air in the cabin.
thank you. excellent clarification.
Here is an article about a filovirus vaccine:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18216185
Clin Vaccine Immunol. 2008 Mar;15(3):460-7. doi: 10.1128/CVI.00431-07. Epub 2008 Jan 23. Vaccine to confer to nonhuman primates complete protection against multistrain Ebola and Marburg virus infections. Swenson DL1, Wang D, Luo M, Warfield KL, Woraratanadharm J, Holman DH, Dong JY, Pratt WD. Author informationhttp://static.pubmed.gov/portal/portal3rc.fcgi/4010870/img/3974597) 0px -21px no-repeat scroll transparent;"> AbstractFiloviruses (Ebola and Marburg viruses) are among the deadliest viruses known to mankind, with mortality rates nearing 90%. These pathogens are highly infectious through contact with infected body fluids and can be easily aerosolized. Additionally, there are currently no licensed vaccines available to prevent filovirus outbreaks. Their high mortality rates and infectious capabilities when aerosolized and the lack of licensed vaccines available to prevent such infectious make Ebola and Marburg viruses serious bioterrorism threats, placing them both on the category A list of bioterrorism agents. Here we describe a panfilovirus vaccine based on a complex adenovirus (CAdVax) technology that expresses multiple antigens from five different filoviruses de novo. Vaccination of nonhuman primates demonstrated 100% protection against infection by two species of Ebolavirus and three Marburg virus subtypes, each administered at 1,000 times the lethal dose. This study indicates the feasibility of vaccination against all current filovirus threats in the event of natural hemorrhagic fever outbreak or biological attack.
Halin, the russians say they have an anti viral drug which is effective for ebola and are shipping it for use in Africa..not holding my breath that either option is effective but hope they are.
Hospital workers infected, but, to date, none of the immediate [Dallas] family.
CDC has some 'splaining to do.
Do we know about the family, though? Last I read, they were still isolated in a gated community. Could be more selective reporting on the part of the fourth estate. Can't have people panicking, now.
I agree on this one. The family is out of sight and out of mind for a reason. If just one of those quarentined children have died of Ebola, every parent of school age children in Texas become dangerous, unpredictable rioters. But the CDC is running out of time. Eventually they will have to announce the family is 21 days clear and healthy, or 10 days dead and cremated.
http://www.jems.com/article/news/16-members-doctors-without-borders-infec
A pediatrician, Switala said her team made the difficult decision not to resuscitate babies who were not newborn out of fear that staff may be infected by bodily fluids. The clinic in the town of Bo in Sierra Leone similarly decided to turn away pregnant women because childbirth poses a greater risk to staff.
Why are they harvesting organs from Obola patients? Aren't they mush?
At least 125 people were being monitored yesterday. And these are people who had contact with Thomas Eric Duncan. What about people who had contact with Nina Pham and the other healthcare worker? That list keeps growing. There will be more cases. Nina Pham's boyfriend is being monitored (rumored to have Ebola) and he may have spread it to Alcon.
Health Officials Monitoring 125 For Ebola Symptomshttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/14/125-monitoring-ebola-symptoms_n...
Among the nurses’ allegations was that the Ebola patient’s lab samples were allowed to travel through the hospital’s pneumatic tubes, opening the possibility of contaminating the specimen delivery system. The nurses also alleged that hazardous waste was allowed to pile up to the ceiling.
http://nypost.com/2014/10/15/nurses-cite-sloppy-conditions-in-ebola-care...
Isn't "monitoring" simply taking the temperature twice daily? No isolation?
Ebola viruses do not follow protocols.
The ebola virus acted stupidly.
Ah, but it is following it's programming...
So the dickhead Freidan now sez "this was to be expected" time to start lining these worthless lying assholes up against the wall!
Yeah, you'll be living in a van down by the river soon, trust me.
Once the first family member of one of these health care workers gets hit, all hell is going to break loose. Will go heavy on Airline puts no matter how far they've already fallen.
George ... The Greek ... From Canada
It's more out of control than what they are reporting. The only people that they are reporting infected are the people that ACTUALLY had some sort of protection on. No one from Duncan's family, EMTs, people waiting in the emergency waiting for hours to get seen.... REALLY...
The people who are being reported were directly known to NURSES. A no-nonsense group of vocal, educated professionals who will not sit by while their colleagues are dying and they remain on the front lines without proper protection or accurate information from the CDC.
"My wife asks me, ‘Why are you so upset?’ They’re killing people, that’s why!," he said
http://www.nj.com/healthfit/index.ssf/2014/08/nj_ebola_expert_recalls_earlier_outbreak_alarmed_about_current_spread.html
This is an experienced ebola DR.
His advice is full quarantine. No relatives, hospital staff stay location. Burn all medical waste and bodies. Recruit experienced ebola Docs from other areas.
Sounds like commons sense.
In all honesty, the fact that those who had initial contact with Duncan ( first hosp visit, apartment, ambulance) still have not shown signs...yet.... Bodes very well for containment ( assuming someone seeks medical attention early stages). The bad part is obviously late stage is highly contageous. It sounds like staff was provided with either incorrect suits or ones that dont fit. Additionally, CIDRAPs recommendations should be considered for late stage handling of patients.
Ill fitting suits/and masks/ respirators can easily lead to infection in high contaminate areas. Ebola is handled ina BSL-4 lab for a reason. People wear fully encapsulated POSITIVE pressure suit....for some reason HCWs dont rate.
Providing incorrect equipment will result not only in HCWs becoming infected, but eventually result in HCWs refusing to work with such patients...this is where the big problem lies. If this happens, then ebola will get loose in the US beyond present area.
"In all honesty, the fact that those who had initial contact with Duncan ( first hosp visit, apartment, ambulance) still have not shown signs...yet.... Bodes very well for containment..."
Exactly right.
The family he was clustered in the apartment with hasn't come down with it...or the idiot social workers or the judge who went knocking on the apartment door for his cameo media appearance/spectacle of personally delivering a quarantine notice.
What a fucking jerkoff...the judge.
Yet when finally admitted, the nurses were allowed to treat him with insufficient gear rather than wait until the proper gear could arrive via us mail later that week.
The choice of the word "allowed" is not found in corporatespeak.
The correct term is "mandated". Nurses follow orders. Free choice is not allowed in job descriptions.
It appears that ebola continues to thrive and replicate even after the host victim is dead, to the extent that there are trillions of virus particles at that stage.
Rats know to flee a sinking ship, and fleas jump off of freshly killed animals. I wonder if somehow this virus knows it's time to leave its victim and find new digs. Certainly infectiousness is much greater near and after death.
Agree completely. The dead are a serious vector. I wouldnt be surprised if the poor saps assigned to remove the bodies are severely under equipped. Its the cleanup staff that typically are ill equipped and under trained. Support staff goes down and this will get ugly real fast. Ive seen numerous reports that many of the W.Af nations are merely telling infected to stay home and for families to treat in place.
As long as this stays 'contained' (relatively speaking) in the US we are ok, but if it pops up in 2 or 3 other cities I think systems will get over whelmed very quickly.
How much is one Ebola corpse worth to the bad guys?
You can't fight or defeat a enemy who doesn't mind to kill himself.
We are our own bad guys, he was refused service two days before admital.
Oh, the rats are fleeing, all right. You hear Zuckerberg just bought part of Hawaii?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/11160588/Mark...
So he will wait out the infection on his massive estate whilst the rest of America bleeds out their anuses. It's like I said last week, long privately owned isolated South Pacific islands.
Obama plays his 200th round of golf after his departure for the course was delayed a few minutes by a call from the Secretary of Health who reported to him about the new Ebola victim.
If I were to guess, he must be thinking" These people, who the hell they think I am? A doctor ? Many people die everyday."
Tiger Wood reportedly played 269 rounds since 2009 and that is his job to play.
Seems like someone has given up on being a president and there are still 2 more years to go.
http://www.newsmax.com/US/golf-Eisenhower-200-Tiger-Woods/2014/10/13/id/...
He gave up on being president in 2009. But he has been the ultimate divider-in-chief...
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/20141015_CDC_acknowledges_it_could_have_done_more_on_Ebola.html
Frieden said more could have been done.
Yes, sometime ago he could have turned the reigns over to someone who had a clue.
Start the court cases, this thing is beginning to get good.
I hate it being right about what myself and others posted here weeks ago. None of us has a real understanding to what might yet happen if things go on like they are - as miffed and I looked at the CDC policy of OPEN Travel, and the inability of our medical system to restrict the spread of this disease..all because of idealogues and yes men at the top of this so called Adm..people in .gov should be hanged for this and I mean in public with stoning- go far stay long.
Dr. David Sanders of Perdue has been studying the Ebola virus since 2003. He stated very clearly on Fox News "The O'Reilly Factor" tonight (Tuesday, October 14th) that the Ebola virus CAN infect lung tissue.
Who do you trust? The Federal government? Under "I didn't know a thing" Obama? At the most charitable, he's the leader of the new "Know Nothing's". I believe it's Dereliction of Duty.
is that Perdue Chickens or Purdue University?
Inquiring minds want to know
WE need to revisit our tresspass laws. Any person who trespasses on my property may be infected.
If I can show I was afraid for my life, it is okay to shoot. If I have cause to think the prowler has Ebola, we're good to go...
They will need to burn that hospital to the ground. What asshole would willingly go to that hospital now? Only a Texas sized moron.
dont underestimate how vapid texans are. Most of the state are religious fanatics. I rest my case me Lord.
You may blow me now.
I always wonder at this phrase. I get your meaning, the poster has been unnecessarily insulting. But isn't your dick special to you? Something you protect? You should not let just any one down there.
And with Ebola out and about, I bet they could give it to you sucking you. See what I am saying?
No one gets to "eat me" "bite me" "blow me" or even "kiss my ass." Too dangerous.
Point taken.
I'll just fuck him in the ass first, then he can blow me.
Please go fuck yourself Poo...
Listen Poo.
"THAT" was a zinger.
OH!
Spoken like a true flat-worlder.
It's called Poo. Of course it talks shit!