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Researchers Expect Over 20 US Ebola Cases In Weeks, "You Don't Want To Know Worst Case"
"We have a worst-case scenario, and you don't even want to know," warns Alessandro Vespignani, a researcher creating simulations of infectious disease outbreaks, but there could be as many as two dozen people in the U.S. infected with Ebola by the end of the month. The projections only run through October because it’s too difficult to model what will occur if the pace of the outbreak changes but, as Bloomberg reports, Vespignani warns if the outbreak becomes more widespread in other regions, it "would be like a bad science fiction movie."
Alessandro Vespignani, a Northeastern University professor who runs computer simulations of infectious disease outbreaks warns there could be as many as two dozen people in the U.S. infected with Ebola by the end of the month.
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The projections only run through October because it’s too difficult to model what will occur if the pace of the outbreak changes in West Africa, where more than 8,900 people have been infected and 4,400 have died, he said. If the outbreak isn’t contained, the numbers could rise significantly.
“If by the end of the year the growth rate hasn’t changed, then the game will be different,” Vespignani said. “It will increase for many other countries.”
The model analyzes disease activity, flight patterns and other factors that can contribute to its spread.
“We have a worst-case scenario, and you don’t even want to know,” Vespignani said. “We could have widespread epidemics in other countries, maybe the Far East. That would be like a bad science fiction movie.”
The worst case would occur if Ebola acquires pandemic status and is no longer contained in West Africa, he said. It would be a catastrophic event, one Vespignani says he is confident won’t happen.
The CDC disagrees...
It’s unlikely that Ebola will ever exceed 20 cases in the U.S. or Europe because of their extensive health care infrastructures, said Ramanan Laxminarayan, director of the Center for Disease Dynamics, Economics & Policy, a non-profit think tank in Washington, D.C. The problem in the developed world will center more on the economic impact, he said.
“The damage is not as much in the number of deaths as much as in the panic it creates and all the disruption it creates in trade and travel,” he said. “It’s important for public health officials to strike a balance between being serious and certainly not creating panic.”
“It’s not going to be like the movie ‘Contagion,’” he said.
And Eli Perencevich, professor of epidemiology at the University of Iowa Carver College of Medicine, said average Americans shouldn’t see any risk from the virus outside of the medical community because patients aren’t terribly infectious until the disease peaks...
“There’s a high probability that there will be another person who comes in, no matter what we do, but the risk is in the hospital,” he said in a telephone interview. “As long as people who know they have been exposed to the virus get themselves quickly to the hospital, even after they have started a fever, it should be OK because they aren’t that infectious.”
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Let's hope he is right!
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It takes a FULL day to travel by air to the USA from West Africa. Their little questionaire and screening does shit for that 24 hour period.
Shouldn't be too exhausting.
After all, there are three stops.
Nice, huh?
so who funds Center for Disease Dynamics, Economics & Policy?
so who funds Center for Disease Dynamics, Economics & Policy?
so who funds Center for Disease Creation..
There Fixed it for yah.. ;)
Red is the Ebola market.
So websites want a lot of people to visit them so that advertisers will pay them, but advertisers want people out flying, and mall-shopping, and spending as much money as possible.
Kind of a catch 22 thing with these Ebola stories.
It is so much better to catch 308.
Why is it "Ebola" and not "ebola?"
Ebola is a proper noun of some shithole place in Africa.
Ebola is also the proper name of the pathogen as well as the Ebola River.
They named it ebola because the CDC (& Euro CDC) retards who responded to the original outbreak in 1976 couldn't read a map (or figure out where the fuck they actually were) when they named the disease after what they thought was the nearest river (it's only the third closest river).
Our "Top Men" & the Grammar Nazis. Rinse, Repeat.
I refuse to obey such idiots.
fear bola sure good for hedge google anal itticulls init.
Ebola Hoax: MSM Amps up the FEARBOLA! Sanjay Guptahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ6ANobx1Mc&list=UU3xHAfZZqbMMWjc1ed1ajow
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/17/world/africa/because-of-ebola-ambulance-work-in-liberia-is-a-busy-and-lonely-business.html?_r=0
I'm sure the Times got the local ambulance driver in on your "hoax". ANd I'm sure you have some sort of other horsehit response to dead, listless girl in the video.
I swear you fucking people are no different than Holocaust deniers.
GO the fuck back to your dungeon!
There is no dead girl in your video. Listless, dying, yes.
Bet your ass she's dead now. Not mostly. Dead like disco...but more hot and runny.
Why is it the constabulary quietly revised the official holocaust number down 25%? Only counting the jewish victims, of course.
Silver Bullet, thanks for that link. It was profound. Lord help us all.
"The worst case would occur if Ebola acquires pandemic status and is no longer contained in West Africa"
News flash for Mr. Brainiac... it is no longer contained in West Africa.
An Ebola pandemic would be bullish for employment.
What kind of jobs?
Grave diggers? Bulldozer operators? Flame throwers?
Solid silver clipboards will protect you from Ebola.....
That plus ingesting lots of garlic and Vitamin C.
And don't forget Holy Water and bright sunshine. Ebola flees from all these things.
<- My ears are almost bleeding just from hearing about EBOLA
<- Too late either a hemorrhoid broke or I already have EBOLA my ass is bleeding
allesandro does'nt know us does he?
OMG! Why did I have to marry a biochemist? I've been "virused" to death, conversationally speaking of course, for 30 years. I wish that I didn't know so much about them. We're in trouble, ZHer's, but mainly because we have fidouchebags running the show who actually want that virus here. The elite will be protected from this outbreak. Yes, Virginia there is a Santa Claus...and I hope he brings you a haz-mat suit, an N95 mask and ebola survivor plasm.
...and a clipboard!
Ebola Dior ! :) Will it be chic, I survived Ebola?
Or like parents comparing their childrens disease's my little johnny's got ADD well my little timmy has ADD and is allergic to peanuts and has ADHD.
Tuberculosis was chic to have in the late 1800's and remember when all the fashion models were doing heroin for the "look".
"You Don't Want To Know Worst Case"
Yeah no fucking shit.
Carl Icahn should tweet that one of his coworkers might have ebola. Boom, his put options are worth 10x as much.
I've got the solution for ebola. Eat a lot of fried foods, drink too much, and stop working out. If you catch it, hey you were a gonner anyway.
Drats, most of America already found that solution
question to HZer's
why would Smudge send the national guard to Liberia ?
Answer dyslexic addresser...
To die....away from here, lest they decide to grow a set and stop him.
“There’s a high probability that there will be another person who comes in, no matter what we do, but the risk is in the hospital,”
This is a cognitively dissonant statement.
If an infected person "comes in" (presumably to the hospital) then that person was infected while residing in some place that is not the hospital, possibly became infected there, and possibly spread the infection before coming in.
By the terms presented in the sentence the risk is NOT ONLY IN THE HOSPITAL.
In addition, going to an emergency room packed with already-sick-and-injured people is not a good way to get help.
Stay home.
Call for an ambulance and tell them what you suspect you have.
Failing that, they could at least post a little sign that says:
Suspected Ebola patients wait in that room over there.
A nun, a priest and a nurse walk into Ebola...
Um, I don't have a punchline.
Do you have a clipboard?
A Nun, a Priest, and a Nurse walk into Ebola?...hmm..lemme try to help here...
The Nun hits her knees and starts praying, the Nurse puts on a mask, and the Priest gets a boner and looks around for all the bloody assholes?
Awesome
I dont want to go on the cart !!!
...you will be stone dead in a moment...
I'm getting better. I feel fine. I think I'll go for a walk. I feel happy!
Let's see. hmmm between 30.000 and 40,000 people die from influenza every year.
http://www2.organizedwisdom.com/medical/terminology/How-Many-People-Die-...
And how many Ebola deaths are there? What? 4400. Ebola is kid stuff in comparison.
We'll see in a few months, won't we?
the deaths are irrelevant
Its how much revenue the corporations can make off of the disease .... how bout some ebola cough drops will ease the fever and poops
mabbe rumfield can whip up some Tami-bola ... cha ching !
Tampons rebranded as Ebola corks.
How indignant. I'll OD on smack first.
"Vespignani warns if the outbreak becomes more widespread in other regions, it "would be like a bad science fiction movie" -- starring Brad Pitt, perhaps? Yeah. After CDC websites featuring "how to survive a zombie apocalypse", Who didn't see THAT one coming? Only problem is, nobody from the CDC cares to read their own websites.
EBOLA.COM. IPO next week. Guaranteed to be more profitable than snapchat
This is still very early in the game, with relatively few people infected (compared to the global human population). According to the "offical" WHO data which form a near perfect exponential curve with no signs whatsoever of a slow-down. This is population dynamics 101, and things - should they proceed according to mother nature's laws - will be a real $hyte $torm very soon. Currently about 200 people die of Ebola every day. Back in August that number was ~30. Should things unravel at roughly the same rate expect some 30 thousand victims by year end, and ~10 million deaths in a year from now. Should we get any close to such numbers, things will be outright scary and life-threatening on several levels, across the globe. Best of luck to all, we'll all need it.
The early victims are lucky - they get treatment. The later victims won't receive anything but quarantine.
In places that have taken a big hit on their healthcare systems because of Ebola, they're going to have to start counting in the secondary deaths too. People dying from shit that was treatable but unable to get treatment because Ebola is causing chaos.
how many americans do you think are discovering the movie "Contagion" for the first time today?
Outbreak,(1995) with Dustin Hoffman is closer to what we are seeing today.. no black prez in it though...
Let's just hope that disease modeling is as accurate as climate modeling.
Putin has some secret Ebola vaccine therefore he will soon be declared as undemocratic, Ebola persecuting terrorist and Russia as Ebola-LGBT hating nation. Democracy and freedom for Ebola!
They teach you that second hand smoke is a health disaster but that you can hug and kiss people treating ebola.
First I wanna see the pictures of the President hugging and kissing ebola health car providers before I'll believe his claims.
Oh, and documentary proof that they are not just actors in his Potemkin Village world.
I'd also be less worried if he dispatched Michelle Antoinette and his daughters to Liberia on a sympathy tour.
And a lot more worried if he sent Joe Biden or Hillary.
I am sure the WH is asking the CDC to game play acceptable losses.
Well, if the University of Iowa says so...
Where "difficult to model" = numbers so large and the implications so horrifying that the modeler thinks it can't really happen. All the while consiously but not at a gut level, understanding the exponential function.
This is so frustrating that no Congressperson stated the following to the CDC Director in the hearings today...
If all the hospitals and medical personnel nationwide had what CDC required, both PPE and training and used them as CDC directed, they are all still at grave risk because the CDC protocol itself is grossly insufficient for ever safely treating confirmed Ebola patients.
CDC protocol is BSL-2 for a BSL-4 level disease.
CDC protocol to medical staff handling of Ebola patients on their web site and even from the Directors mouth, 2 days ago... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vK6WosNHQ3g claims that hair/head/shoe coverage is not required. CDC Director Tom Frieden himself, at link above, when challenged, stated that he'd 'absolutely' go into any Ebola patients room with no head/hair/shoe coverage.
Ebola patients, especially in the later stages, generate large volumes of very contagious fluids from vomit and diarrhea.
Unprotected footwear, open to top contamination and the soles tracking out who knows what into all the non-isolation areas, potentially cross contaminating all other foot traffic, too, could be as detrimental as any mishandling in the removal & disposal of your gloves and face mask, when later, without gloves, you take off and handle your own shoes. Most everything that could contaminate the front of protective garment (and is reason for you wearing it), but that misses it, is then headed towards the floor and your shoes, where it lands either atop them or on the floor to later be stepped in and tracked out.
Contrast that with African Ebola health workers exiting quarantine areas in rubber boots and then promptly stepping into a bleach bath tub before being sprayed down with more bleach solution from head to toe.
The CDC has negligently exposed all our nations medical staff, and the public-at-large, to unnecessary Ebola risks by their grossly insufficient protocols for safely dealing with it.
It's sad to see our standards have been lower than those deployed in a third-world country.
I like the part where they sent Duncan's lab samples via the pneumatic tubes to the lab.
Might as well open the window and throw them over to the lab.
Truly stuff that advanced and evolved civilizations of cockroaches will cackle about in history books.
And remember that Mexican guy they hired in Dallas to powerwash Duncan's Ebola-infected puke off the pavement outside Duncan's apartment complex?
Mission Accomplished!
"You can create a local non-parasitic profile but it is "not recommended".
Microsoft just can't seem to help themselves."
They pull the same shit with Visual Studio Express. It's free software, but only if you're signed in. What the fuck. Do you want me to use your stupid .NET bullshit or not? I feel like I should be sandboxing that program in a virtual machine or something.
"Touch Me I'm Sick!" Two points for naming the band. Three points if you name the band AND your eyes are bleeding.
"if Ebola acquires pandemic status and is no longer contained in West Africa"
Um...it's contained, then? When did that happen? I hope it's true!
According to Guardian there is some good news. Coordination and planning along with outside help with supplies, gear, and other necessities has helped African healthcare workers handle more cases. Read more here: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/15/ebola-outbreak-central-africa-contained
Africans who live in the small villages in/near the deep forest grow their own food and forage in the jungle. They're protein starved, so when a dead animal is found, it's eaten. This could change if Western countries helped with providing protein sources. I don't know how much Ringers solution might be used for every very sick patient, or how many haz-mat suits might be used and should be burned after one use, but I hope all nations will deliver what's needed all day every day asap so the emergency can be over and studies of what happened, why, and preparation for the next round (inevitable) can begin. Someone here at ZH mentioned that planes don't even have to land. Air drops can be made.
I read the other day that guina pigs are killed by ebola and antibodies are found in their blood samples; Africans eat guinea pigs.
We eat chicken nuggets.
You were saying?
A case for telemedicine: people with flu-like symptoms should be screened/evaluated preliminarily via web cam from their homes. Then tell them where to go. (New entryways to hospitals can be cobbled together out of materials similar to those being used by military in Liberia: funnel Ebola cases through there, or into a heated tent where they'll be treated.)
They health bureaucrats are preoccupied with avoiding a panic.
Yet it is their incompetence that is leading to a panic.
And BTW, has anyone checked how much it costs to treat one of these obolo patients.
I am sure Obolo is having his floppy rears bent by his crony pals in the insurance mafia.
Whoever junked you William should have the balls to stand up and make their case against your point.
lol....true. They probably just read their insurance bill or their liver shot out their nose about the time they were giving an up vote.
So what is the price of rice in China?
william - i've avoided commenting earlier on some of your text posts. - but i have to say. you hate obama as much as i do. geez. that's impressive.
and i really don't think he is a 'zero'. he personally is zero. but his presidency will not be. and that's why his handlers choose him.
below zero is negative. negative for the country that he asked to be allowed 'the priviledge' -
We all need to remember - it was designed to be a 'priviledge' to 'SERVE' our country, us, our community, our culture, in public service.
he asked for that, he got it, and now he has shown that he is not qualified. he is aware of that. the world is aware of that.
be a man, 'mr.' obama - resign. you made a mistake and we pay.
do not make others pay for your mistakes.
Long on backhoes, AK47's and flamethrowers...
Yes, the sky is falling. The sky is falling. Let's all get really scared so we can't think straight and we'll hand over the remainder of our rights to the government.
This seems just like The Sting, the movie in which Paul Newman and Robert Redford con a gangster out of his money by setting up a phony horse-betting parlor.
Was Chicken Little in the Sting? I missed that. I'll have to watch it again.
Ebola-chan fan fiction, for those who are so inclined. ;-)
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10732574/1/The-Passion-of-Saint-Ebola-chan
Must have interfered with NWO agenda. Apparently all is well now and no fear Jose. Open the borders. Just don't let West Africans in.
Ramanan Laxminarayan.............lol
Is the next message "It's unlikely your daughter will be among the 20 cases"?
just home school her and don't send her to college
This is easily the most entertaining satire website on the internet presently... these articles lololololol
Let's hope that is all it turns out to be.
I'm still waiting for the catalyst that transitions me from laughing at all the doomsayers who post here, to actually becoming one.
I think it would have to be a direct friend/family member of mine getting infected before i get to the level of freak out that you people are with 3 cases in a country of 315 million
yah, why I remember like it was just yesterday when there was only 1 case in africa, and that was some monkey.
Its the leadership that freaks me out.
Here's a laugh for you all:
They're going to rename that Frontier Airways plane the "Ebola Gay."
Should be more effective.
Lol, props to the new destroyer of worlds air carrier
Going to the hospital early when you "aren't that infectious" sounds an awful lot like only being a little bit pregnant.
Hey, I'm going with what the CDC says-after all, they've been highly accurate so far. (sarc)
I'll believe things are bad if they cancel the Cowboys game in DFW against the Giants this Sunday. Oh, and also when Africa bans flights from USA.
If no one else in the USA besides a health care worker is diagnosed with Ebola by 10/24, there will be confidence that the worst is over. For panic to persist, there would have to be a person diagnosed who isn't a health care worker and hasn't recently been in West Africa.
Holy Shit...lol
I'm sick of that ugly jew bitch on the "Dude I Want That .Com" add. You know the one dressed as an America hero or something. Shouldn't that stupid cunt be sporting an israeli flag?
Must of hit a jew or two.
No, you're just boring, repetitive and missing the point... so I'm assuming you're dumb too.
Two Ebola deaths causes mass panic and hysteria, whereas Fukushima meltdown causes a complete media blackout.
Which one do you think might be the bigger problem?
Fuck you Obama! Thanks, I feel better now.
Everybody with ebola will vote Democratic forever more, whether they live or not, I think that explains President Ebola's words and actions.
A middle class African, there still ae a few, who fears they may have had an ebola contact, he or she is gonna try and buy an Airline ticket to the west. They know that if they can set foot in the EU or USA, that all the best and free health care tax payers can afford will be lavished on them. FACT! This thought has to be playing in their minds, get to the west. As Ebola spreads, more people with money might come into contact with the lower classes who carry Ebola. Once they fear they have hd the deadly touch, they have maybe 2 weeks to get west. The infection spread will come from these people! Africans, with enough money for air tickets. Runningh from Ebola, or with Ebola running for care. They have a good grace period with no symptoms to board a flight and clear customs. That is how patient #1 got here and infected the two nurses. More are on their way right now.
We will not stop them, because someone at the top of our elite run systems WANTS them to come.
Fucking A Jack.
Hello....Jack Burton, this West African middle class flight has been happening at least since August in my neighborhood....spotted in Walmart,....Target, grocery store, hospital, even the dude that drove into my neighborhood to ask where the rental office was....and thanks to Zero Hedge since June, I did not get too close to the car when he rolled his window down...nor too close to the profusely sweating man walking down the hospital corridor where I work, he and his wife in classic "African" clothing (which of course varies across the huge continent)....wondered why the hospital entrance was hosed down later. Wonder why there is more and more dried vomit in the hospital garage (managed by Africans, and normally spotless). I don't think Americans, as a people, would do any different. I think we would flee this horror if we could. I hope everyone who can get somewhere safe has done so....So far, I think the advice from Zero Hedge has saved my life.
It seems someone in the elite strata WANTS the infection to spread quickly considering Amber Vinson was concerned enough to call the CDC, told them she was feeling sick after caring for an ebola patient who fucking DIED and they told her in return to go to the nearest airport and travel in a plane full of people. Nobody can be that stupid, not even in an Idiocracy like this one.
Yes Jack, they WILL come, as you and I have been warning for weeks. In addition, it took just one patient from West Africa to effectively shut down the isolation ward at Texas Presbyterian. Most of the nurses have been told not to report to work, and Ms. Pham is being transferred to NIH because there is no staff in Dallas to care for her.
So, all it takes to shut down a major city's ability to handle Ebola is one patient? That does not bode well for other US cities, even if they learn some lessons from Dallas.
Whether I agree or disagree, I think you're still one of the best posters on this site.
you don't even need middle class Africans. our enemies could give people money and tickets... it's all bad.
Apparently the second nurse had symptoms on the flight up to Cleveland as well. Can you imagine the mumber of flights that aircraft has flown since then?
It's ok they have a man on that with invisible tracking paint and the invisible satillite tracking painter takes over from there.
Or it's random butterfly effect thing and they pocketed the money for the man and the satellite. Prob. bought a bunge cord jump instead.
Do you think he means good science fiction movie? "That would be like a bad science fiction movie.”
To the tune of, The Love Boat Theme.
Ebola, exciting and new
Come aboard, we're expecting you
Ebola, the dark continent's sweetest reward
Your blood flows, through a brand new hole!
The Obola plane, soon will be making another run
The Obola plane, promises something for everyone.
Set a course for adventure, your mind on a painful death
It's an open sore, on a friendly shore!
Yes Obola, It's Obola! (yeah!)
With Eric Holder as Isaac the jive bartender.
Now is the time to prepare, not tomorrow but today. http://www.prepsite.org/
I'm just getting water-wings. If anyone gets close I'll run into the water until they leave.
I have special Ebola Protection Medicine for sale. The contents are mostly water, some whiskey, arrowroot, cardamon and snake eggs. Special price of only $400 per pint.
Breaking News: Fred Sanford contracts Ebola. Don't Believe it. Picture Here! It's the BIG ONE Louise!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/ebola-outbreak-famine-approaches-toadd-to-west-africas-torment-9799944.html
LaMont, where's Esther, that Ho? She did this to me!
There are three major threats at the moment .
Ebola can be handled , then cured if the bureaucracies are ditched .
Other dangers ...
See
Waiting for the third shoe to drop : see
https://www.academia.edu/8816411/Rogue_Swan_EU_disintegration
I am hoping that ebola goes beserk in Africa, Asia and Latin America. Will make a major contribution to culling their disgustingly excessive human populations. It could not spread without the absurdly dense overpopulation and accompanying poverty. Nature strikes back !!!
SIC- you are really getting on my nerves. I don't recall ever having disliked an individual so much. I would like to know if you ever consider trying to make any contributions to the conversation instead of spewing hate. Does your mother know you spread these kinds of vile remarks. You and the other two who gave you a thumb's up need to go out for coffee and give zero hedge comment readers a break. Seriously you really aren't needed here the conversation will be fine without you.
Your mind is so narrow that if you fell on a pin, you would be blind in both eyes. Stick to what you know best, ie nothing.
Hey SIC- what about North America? Isn't our consumerism also "disgustingly excessive?" Are you a racist Nazi, or just a bitter person that wants everyone to suffer? Go stick your nose back into Mein Kampf and let the rest of us have an intelligent discussion.
Yes, I agree with you, USA's "consumerism also "disgustingly excessive?", and ebola will be in USA and reduce that disgusting excess because you refuse to reduce it yourselves. Ebola is your species' doing unto itself.
That is no solution. To wish this on those poor people shows, you have no empathy for them. Just imagine people who live now, this minute in Monrovia. The fear, the chaos should make people crazy desperate. And desperate people take desperate measures. Like for example trying to get in America and Europe.
Do you really think if it spreads in the poor parts of the world it will just stay there ?
Do you even know that viruses evolve very fast, every generation. If it can spread like that (as you wish it to go beserk), who knows what new kinds of super deadly viruses will appear.
Be careful what you wish for.
The solution would be to elevate the wealth and education in those societies. As with the European, Japanese and American population, this has proven that people are more carefull about how many kids they want, when they are educated and wealthy. But in the meantime those children and adults need all the care and have all the right to live the same life as other people on the planet.
It's not about the absurd human preoccupation with your races, it is about your species - humans are a terror and parasite to the entire biosphere, including your own species, not just by your destructive practices but by hyper-breeding like rats in a garbage dump. If you humans did not overbreed, then you would have no serious problems from infectious diseases. and you breed far far far faster than meaningful sustainable economic growth, so the fantasy of economic growth and jobs rescuing your immoral hyper-breeding will NEVER rescue you from your self-inflicted epidemics.
The way you phrased it, it sounds like you think someone else (probably whitey) should be responsible for "elevating" these places? Why can't they be responsible for their own development? That's somewhat of a rhetorical question, I think you already know the answer.
What you propose is no solution either for a place like Africa - it's been attempted for a while now - doesn't really get anywhere, at least not in a place like Africa, because you can't get modern-industrial levels of wealth and education out of a society that has an average IQ of 85-90.
European/white American, Japanese (you should also include Chinese/Korean) have educated and wealthy socieities (today, but also for thousands of years historically) because they developed themselves. Wealth/education/culture don't just drop out of the sky onto people's heads.
The virus just needs to burn itself out. Those children and adults that "deserve" all the care don't give a shit about overpopulation or your do-gooder sentiments - they'll keep breeding prodigously as long as they are able to.
i truly hope you and your family get this. I want to smile as you take your last breath you racist scum bag. Earth does not need dog shit like you on it.
Ebola is coming to give you hyper-breeders your deserved self-inflicted punishment. If you had kept your population at reasonable much lower levels, then many, many problems caused by your hyper-breeding, including infectious disease epidemics & poverty, would not exist. You humans are your own built-in worst enemy. Has nothing to do with race, just species.
Don't worry boys & girls, dear leaderless has given us all obolacare to save us all.
It's a tuff choice for who I'd prefer gets it first but I'd have to hope it gets Victoria Nuland.The ebola should then move into The Fed and onto The WhiteHouse,Congress and Senate.Clean house good.
I'd pick WalMart for being a high risk ebola environment.Hope it gets their CEO.Way overpaid compared to the common slave.
“As long as people who know they have been exposed to the virus get themselves quickly to the hospital, even after they have started a fever, it should be OK because they aren’t that infectious.” Should be OK for WHOM? The person is likely to DIE.
I don't get the maths from these so-called experts. We already know that an infected nurse, Amber Vinson from Dallas, travelled on commercial flights in the US on the 13th October while feeling sick (After she got the OK to travel by the CDC), yet this is completely ignored. Both the infectious period and infection vector is fuzzy/contradictory enough not to discount her contacts with people/furniture during her travels.
We'll know for sure in the first week of November, but the worst case scenario is several hundred infected, not two dozen as they predict. Besides, how on earth can it be an arithmetic progression when every school kid knows that viral epidemics take form as a geometric progression? Any way I look at it, the crap spouted by "experts" in the US is beyond moronic.
Only 20? Let's hope thats all and that it doesn't find its way to children or katie bar the door. Kids are walking germ pools that spread stuff to entire classrooms of other kids all the time.
Worst case is Ebola hits China. There are tens of thousands of Chinese working in Africa after all and it only takes 1.
India
Ebola doubles every 3 weeks. We are currently at 8k infected -- maybe 2.5x that already because of unreported cases. So lets start it at 16K 18 weeks until we get to a million infected (32,64,128,256,512,1024). Then the real fun starts. 30 weeks later we are hitting a billion. (2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512,1024). Then we reach a billion. 9 weeks later its GAMEOVER 70% of everyone wiped out.
sorta hoping YOU would volunteer to get a test injection of the disease-the planet is too overloaded with folks like yourself
WTGDF! Nurse may have had symptoms of Ebola longer than first thought
http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/16/health/us-ebola/index.html
WTGDF indeed. turning in to a real charley foxtrot.
Kind of like air leaking from a tire, just a little at a time, getting closer & closer to reality. Whenever I hear that "something is NOT like something" (i.e. Contagion movie), the more I think that's EXACTLY what it will be like and head for the hills!
WCL out
Like an episode of "Fringe". Maybe the NSA can tell us about social media and what Ebola carriers say or perhaps DHS now has a use for all the machine guns or police with APCs. No doubt Obama will bomb Liberia.....but wait....that is a former US colony
When--if--this thing ends, we defund and eliminate the CDC, and transfer the 4% or 5% that actually does something to HHS.
This was their chance to shine, and they proved to be empty suits and political whores--a dumping ground for those who can't go elsewhere.
From @shankster: Now is the time to prepare, not tomorrow but today. http://www.prepsite.org/
Thanks for posting this, and it's a good start, but I'd like to suggest a few improvements;
1) Is the water bottled? If not, pool shock/bleach and CL2 test strips need to be at the top of the list, and you need to keep your total CL2 near 3 PPM. It would be a shame to survive Ebola and die from Cholera.
2) Add firearms, ammunition, and training. What are you going to do when desperate people want your stuff...use harsh language?
3) In addition to cash, have some gold and silver. Cash is just dead trees with ink decoration.
4) Buy a decent generator, fuel, and Stabil to lengthen the storage life. Cooking on a BBQ will get old, and generators are good for interior heating & cooling, light, etc.
I could go on, but I'll stop and refer you instead to http://survivalblog.com/. The articles are hit and miss, but if you go to the left side of the page, click on "Getting Started" or "List of Lists." Best of luck !
This was planned LAST YEAR!!!!! My goodness what a coincidence. See this:
http://www.sifma.org/services/bcp/fema-pandemic-exercise-series/
All these sensationalizing articles on ZH kill the quality of this site. Ebola, gtfo.
Most ZH'ers love a doomsday story even when its as ridiculous as this.
Everyone turn off crazy switch in brain and calm down.
There is nothing sensational about dying from Ebola, although a few thousand already have (and it's probably more like 10,000.)
Prudence is sometimes the wise choice.
I know something about this topic, so maybe I can help.
Professor Will Taylor was published in the NY Times when he made a fascinating discovery about AIDS that also applies toEbola. The AIDS virus has only one selenium receptor. So long as there is adequate selenium in the cell, the AIDS virus remains contained.
But when there is a shortage, the virus ruptures the cell producing illness.
The Ebola virus has 8 selenium receptors. Prof. Taylor told me he believed that is why Ebola kills so much more quickly.
Since US soil is pretty much depleted of selenium whereas Africa has higher levels (due to composting which also increases selenium uptake by the crops) that translates into lower levels of selenium in the cells for Americans compared to Africans.
I fully expect the incubation time for full blown Ebola in the US to be much shorter than in Africa as a result!
More people have died of AIDS in the US than have died of Ebola in Africa during the same time period, although AIDS is not nearly as contagious as Ebola and Africa has triple the population of the US.
This important set of statistics indicates Africans are quite resistant to the disease. Americans will not be nearly as resistant.
Bottom line: start taking selenomethionine (not selenite) AND fulvic acid. The fulvic acid will help you absorb up to 10 times as much selenium.