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Highly recommend John Michael Greer's article this week. He does a great job delineating the process
Dark Age America: The Hour of the Knife
Http://www.resilience.org/stories/2014-10-16/dark-age-america-the-hour-o...
Thanks for the link. I like his discussion of the historical tendency of the dominant minority (aka the elite) to fall into senility over time:
http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2014/09/dark-age-america-senility-of-elites.html
I tend to agree that the elite in this country have been huffing their own farts for so long and are so convinced of their own invulnerability and detached from reality that they'll never know what hit them when the next major paradigm shift occurs.
The 5 truths you cannot disagree with, expanded or re-stated version (cutting through the OBVIOUS propaganda intent of the original);
1)You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity, but you CAN legislate the wealthy into GREATER prosperity by legislating the poor and middle class OUT of it.
2)What one person receives without working for, another must work for without receiving. Wall Street, the banking cartels, Big Pharma, and Big Corps. are testament to this fact. They ALL benefit through the corporatocracy we live under, while the bottom 75% (and their descendants) subsidize them.
3)The government cannot give to anybody, that which the government does not first take from somebody else. No additional clarification needed, as truer words were never spoken.
4)You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. You CAN however, increase wealth for a few, if you indebt, extort, and rob from the masses.
5)When half the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them; and the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for...that is the beginning of the end of any nation. Of course, this is merely an expression of a false duality-based paradigm which does not actually represent the reality of these United States currently. More truthfully, an ever-increasingly powerful central government has facilitated the concentration of power - and thereby wealth - into the hands of a relatively few people. In the course of this journey, propaganda has cleverly been employed to create a divided population. This propaganda conveniently removes all responsibility for the divide from the state, and directly pits the people against each other, in a patently false and overly simplistic narrative that should fail at first examination...that being that HALF of the population is supporting the OTHER HALF, as though that were even possible in reality, and as though there were no facilitator, and as though there were no third-class of people benefitting from this scheme, and as though THAT class were not the instigators of the scheme.
So, while IN THEORY the original #5 statement may arguably be true, it IS NOT the circumstance we are in. A more accurate - AND HONEST - #5 would read; When .01% of the people get the idea that they do not have to work, because the other 99.99% will effectively be made to work for them, and the other 99.99% can be convinced or coerced to participate in that system...THAT is beginning of the end of any nation.
THESE are the 5 thruths you cannot disagree with.
-pipes
Another truth: governments are inept and incapable of solving most pressing problems, the reasons being that nobody gets fired for ineptness and there is no worry about income since it simply is stolen from the people [taxes]...I wish I had a job where I did not have to perform and did not have to worry about how to make the payroll. Can you see now why governments SUCK - they're replete with poofy twats....
As opposed to the opaqueness of the private sector?
Only #5 is actually true. The first four are completely false and trivially refuted.
Quite true, and apt to the moment I'd say.
The lower 85%, most of whom work their asses off, get shit on by the kelptocrats who run it all... all including our nation. The ones in the 75-95% range get screwed the worst since they buy stocks retail and get the shaft every way from Sunday.
The 0.5% blind themselves with 1-4, though, and create myths to support their arrogance.
Bob, you can't summon even the barest of evidence in refutation of any of the 5, can you?
I didn't think so. :-)
You can legislate the rich out of sterile bubble-o-nomics prosperity by taxing them to induce them to cut the shit out and invest in the real economy.
Taxation in any nation state has been the way to making a more level table and to create demand where its needed : amongst the lower echelons of society; main victims of oligarchy scams throughout History.
Today we have to move out of the current fossil fuel paradigm as PEAK RM as peak OIL is around the corner.
No running away from it and from resultant global degradation of climate and oceans.
We have hit peak natural FREE resources.
And legislation is what it will take as these Oligarchs will never shake from their high up perch.
They will prefer to stay in a scenario of permanent wars to the last living serf-man.
+1 for the voice of reason
I can disagree with any damn thing I want to. I don't care what Tyler Whatshisname says.
You can try to dissagree with gravity if you want. But she dont care what you think. She is kind of a bitch and will not be cutting you any slack. Trust me on this.
To whoever downvoted me. When you look off the edge and that voice says jump? Thats me Im telepathic.
Voice? I'll be the person pushing you over the edge, Bob.
1. In a kleptocracy you can! In fact, screwing the rentier class parasites never fails to produce amazing results. See Germany's debt defaults and industrial booms as an example. It restores health and wealth to the society
2. The economy is not a zero sum game. All workers create products of bigger value than what they receive. The leak in the system comes from the kleptocrats and rentiers syphoning off that wealth.
3. You can, if means of production are publicly owned. The author hasn't been abroad much. Example: the government of Singapore produces tons of wealth from publicly owned enterprises just like any privately-owned firm. But that's a well-managed government.
4. You can, if wealth is monopolized.
5. The author is a demented, blood-sucking vampire who thinks "the lower class doesn't work hard enough". One week of actual work and he'd be fired, homeless and dead of a heart attack.
You could write a book about the presumptions involved in that chart.
On its face true... in fact something else, since it masks reality.
For starters, how about stealing labor from the people who work for your corporation, paying them a pittance, and claiming you earned all that damned money, so screw them.
Then, how about your executive officers pay themselves by stealing from the other shareholders, awarding unpaid stock and thus diluting the value of the corporation. Until you steal more from the shareholders by taking earned income and using it to buy stock to inflate the price so your options that were stolen in the first place are worth more?
Like I said.. could write a book
Yep Zap thats why I put Inflation is theft up there. Something to measure agianst makes it much easier.
I sense a bitter minimum wage worker....
In any given scenario:
Some people will always produce more than others.
Some people will always want more than they produce.
Anybody understand the concept of 0 marginal cost?
If somebody has paid for the machine (solar power for example) by amortization you can give away the addional energy return or free.
The government just has to take care for the initial investment.
Number 6 Myth: Most of the rich are "wealth creators." In fact, we're all takers. The political system just determines who gets to take what.
There are three sources of wealth
We cannot take credit for the first, thank god. A lot of the infrastructure and improvements to the land are inherited (roads, canals, levees, etc). And most of the ingenuity and innovation is a legacy from prior generations. The term wealth "creation" was new in the eighties and is itself part of the propaganda. Wealth is produced and saved, not created.
why does god only take credit for the first?
doesn't everything follow from the creator?
The title is the type of frame I refuse to enter and the rest, if you try to press me, will get me in your face while you recieve an intellectual thrashing. How can you agree or disagree? This is a propaganda frame with a true semantic value of Zero! It reminds me of Israeli Hasbara BullShit. Fuck the author! His academic degrees, if he has any, should be stripped
Yeah, yeah, yeah but Obama gonna give me a pony!
6). If you eat beans and cabbage for dinner, you'll be fartin' your ass off all night.
So what? What's your point?
Yup, this here is proof we need to adopt Sharia law.
I agree. But that does in no way justify money printing, rigged markets, manipulated interest rates and deliberate juicing of equity values. I suggest you CAN legislate giving wealth to speculators who do no useful work for their gains, gains made from QE, money printing, zirp loans for speculation.
Don't try and Bullshit Me with the same old, "we can't do anything for the poor" as justication for a system that works now to plow money into the hands of equity holders. The 1% has never in American history done so well as the last 6 years, YET, the real economy is fucked. Now, care to justify that? Tell me how hard the speculators who have played the fed wealth effect. Wealth without work, that IS America since before even 2008.
I think somebody just tried to bullshit me. To justify the fucking wealth stripping fake economy built on manipulation and money printing, crony capitalism and financial engineering.
Get this, and get it good: "The real US economy does not produce enough real wealth to cover the money printing and financial engineering." Thta means someone has to lose income and wealth to cover the gains at the top. I ain't such a big fucking fool that I don't KNOW how this game is being played. Wages down, all across the nation, good jobs gone all over the nation, while the financial economy booms on the back of manipulation, ZIRP and money printing. Production in the USA is not high enough to justify the economic gains of the 1%, the real economy can't produce surplus wealth equal to the gains for the top. Our economy sucks, wages suck, jobs suck, and most people want to fucking work, just not for $5.50 an hour.
I am sorry if welfare kills the work ethic, so does $5.50 an hour Kill the Fucking work ethic! While the Wall-Streeters ride a Fed money printing binge to unheard of wealth.
My thoughts on the above post. It is a silly smoke screen to deflect our anger onto the people living on some shit welfare of 12K a year. Sure, nobody should get wealth without work. Why does the writer fail to mention the equity share holders of the last bull market not doing any work for their unprecidented economic gain? No, don't answer, I know why. Same old shitty blame game, somebody needs to beat up the dead beats at the bottom, but lets beat up the fucking speculator whores who feed off of ZIRP and Fed Policy of liquidity injections. WHO, I might asks, gets that Liquidity? The suckers on welfare of 200 dollar a week? Ha! Ha! Bullshit Mother Fucker! You can't pull that one off.
I'm surprised that Zero Hedge didn't trumpet the "truth" that Vladimir Putin is a great leader of a great country and that America's leaders should seek to emulate him.
Shocking....
here's a truth or two.
1) poverty among the do nothing, do no work is one thing. Poverty among those who work their ass off for little or no wages is another thing completely,
2) government/corporate/banking created inflation steals from the poorest segment of the nation. It is designed to do so. It is a crime. And it is wrong on every moral and philosophical level,
3) fuck these assholes who eat caviar at the expense of the lowest stratus of America, and
4) decide where you stand on this issue.
Just see how the voter turnout is next month and you'll realize how many still doesn't get it.
About that truth thing. Its a tricky thing. Is one truth the same to another view. Or is it a universile truth? Can there be a universile truth like gravity? How can we know gravity is universile if we dont know how it really works? Where does one draw the line and declare a thing as truth? Absolutes are not as common as you might think.
They are letting us talk about the truth on the weekend. Cool! This could go well.
Actually , you can break all the rules above .
See
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2009/02/room-at-top.html
Else
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2009/02/rome-vs-china.html
what bullshit.
every "truth" can be undermined.
what is the definition/measurement criteria for prosperity, wealth, work, government, ...?
and who is truly interested in preserving the "nation state"?
All inherited wealth is not worked for.
Quite a few of the old money families in the UK can trace their position at the top of society back to the Norman Conquest back in 1066.
They have been living off inherited wealth for nearly a thousand years.
Will there ever come a time when any Rothschild or Rockefeller ever needs to work, inherited wealth will look after them for ever.
Lot's of money is not earned and just accumultes in ever greater quantities at the top.
We need a new monetary system in which
(1) Every piece of money has time stamp and which expires after a certain time say 5 years so that the banksters , corporations & capitalists loose that money after that date and they would have to earn it from people . Here Central banks would not give them any money at all.
(2) Central banks would transfer all the new money directly to people's bank accounts , in other words people dont need to earn it , they only need to spend it and in case they want any luxury , only then they would be required to work for it i.e. basic necessities would be free.