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Stunning Scenes From California's Central Valley Drought

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No matter what you have read or seen so far on California’s historic Central Valley drought, you probably haven’t been touched by it as much as you will be by the following video from the New Yorker.

Terribly sad.


 

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Mon, 10/20/2014 - 04:52 | 5354398 ebear
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Some of us Canadians look Chinese to some Americans.

Don't you just love the irony?  

US Melting Pot vs Canadian Multiculturalism.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 10:03 | 5354853 fiatmasochist
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It's all the 'trend' : north, south, central, carribean too....we're all 'mericans now....forward Region 1.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 10:11 | 5354854 fiatmasochist
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It's all the 'trend'.........sorry double post (windows is crazy)

O Canada...you like our real estate? well we like your water.  (and your gold, too, luv maples.)

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:31 | 5353366 Oldwood
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Obviously you have never been an employer. Lots of them resisted hiring illegals for years, assuming our government would crack down on it, but guess what, they didn't, meaning if you didn't hire cheap labor your days were numbered. Amazing how many have high ideals about how others should act without ever taking the responsibility upon themselves. Sounds pretty "progressive" to me.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 19:03 | 5353457 WillyGroper
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Global wage arbitrage>>>>>>wall street bonanza.

If you've owned 'em you've played & are just as guilty.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 08:15 | 5354559 Dingleberry
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Of course repubs like cheap labor. But....

Clinton fought for and signed NAFTA and to get China into the WTO.

Democrats and their unions have put the cities in hock and are selling everything like garages, streets, parking meters, anything and everything is becoming privatized by the party of the little guy. 

Oh....and who is demanding immigration amnesty (excuse me reform") for 11 million voters who cannot speak English? What happened to construction trades, meeat packing unions, etc. since the great influx of new illegals? BTW..."if you oppose amnesty in any way, shape or form.....you are a fucking racist!" (CNN, liberals, et al).

Fuck you "progressives". Blame the mirror for your problems.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:50 | 5353108 TeamDepends
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Yep, he's Bush III. Suck it, progressives!!!!!!!!!!!

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:01 | 5353139 Majestic12
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"I didn't know Obola is a Republican now"

The only "brilliant" thing to come from the Republicants is Obummer....

I would say "wolf in sheep's" clothing, but more like "dolt in flake's clothing"...

Most "real" Dems hate him...I left (all puns) the party in 09....he is NOT a Democrat and has done the bidding of the errand boy, NeoCON useless 1% crumb eaters.

I have never been in this situation after 10 presidential elections...feeling like I guess the Republicans often do....that I voted for a fucking complete "sell-out"...more blatant than in any other time in history....

What's that? "Nuke him" campaign? Where do I sign...?

You can stop wearing your "wife's" (aka man friend) underwear now..."sun tzu"...

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:50 | 5353273 Rememberweimar
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All Politicians are purchased not elected. And all Politicians are self chosenites. D or R, same difference.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 19:14 | 5353486 in4mayshun
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More than any other single reason, I feel that the realization of this fact by more and more people are the reason that a massive "event" is forthcoming. Our political system is dying, and the elite know it. They must change the paradigm before they lose control. Whether it be Obola, WW3, or anothe 9/11 I have no clue. But it's coming.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:09 | 5353164 general ambivalent
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It's a shame native americans didn't stop 'illegals' from entering their territory. Perhaps all of this could have been prevented.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:34 | 5353236 FeralSerf
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Guns, germs and steel. They didn't have a chance.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:52 | 5353278 Rememberweimar
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Palestinians don't have a chance against the chosenites either

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:14 | 5353320 Thisson
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Take your Francis Sawyer bullshit somewhere else, buddy.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 19:02 | 5353451 Rememberweimar
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Thisson the Troll at his best...

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 20:17 | 5353644 PhilofOz
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Is a chosenite a cheesepope or a cheesepope a chosenite?

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 12:30 | 5355348 FeralSerf
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"To be, or not to be, that is the question—
Whether 'tis Nobler in the mind to suffer
The Slings and Arrows of outrageous Fortune . . ."

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 12:26 | 5355327 FeralSerf
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Neither do the rest of the Goyim, it would seem.

The Palestinians have the extreme misfortune of being on the front line.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:38 | 5353386 Oldwood
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This is the core of the issue. Americans have not demanded our immigration policies enforced. They have bought the big hearted progressive agenda, while enjoying the cheaper prices that cheap foreign labor has brought with it. Never any idea that to hire illegals or buy Chinese crap could ever displace our own jobs. And of course we have had endless parades of politicians and corporations telling us about the beautiful new world where foreigners do all the dirty work while we enjoy playing with our newest Igadget and 30% American built automobiles.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 19:08 | 5353477 WillyGroper
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Agree to some extent. Doesn't change NAFTA & the job sucking that went to Mexico until they found cheaper labor to exploit in China. Immigration had nothing to do with that.

Now bottling up, labeling as a commodity & selling the great lakes to China...

I'll reserve my thought on what should take place with these treasonous scoundrels. Military mutiny is the only chance in hell left.

It's biblical.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 21:21 | 5353780 Oldwood
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The thing is, none of this would have happened if Americans had refused to buy foreign made goods or even domestic goods and services if it were know to be a product of illegals. Instead we have gobbled them up...we have abandoned our manufacturing and wallowed in the cheap housing, cheap food and other services illegal immigration has afforded. We know better. We were told...warned by many people, yet the masses turned away, called them kooks....ran to best buy and Amazon to get the best deal. Instead we can all make a handsome living as a manager, managing nothing...or better still through investing...looking for the muppets we can sell shit we paid $20 for $30 or maybe more. Working for a living has been going out of style for years and our corporate overlords, the bankers and our government have made it easy. They have loaned us money to buy the shit we can't really afford, and when it became too apparent that we couldn't afford it, they stopped looking at our financials, loaning us even more with even less ability to pay. We did this. Yes we were lied to, we were tricked, but we did it, and we knew better. We just like being lied to as it is so much better a picture than the truth. The truth makes no one rich, only lies do.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 04:56 | 5354400 ebear
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Tuk ur jerbs!

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:46 | 5353406 kaiserhoff
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How's the stone age working out for you "progressives?"

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:56 | 5353434 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Touche.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:31 | 5353361 upWising
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Esteemed Sun Tzu -- There's no water because it has hardly rained.  It's real simple.  I live in NorCal where most of the water for "The Golden State" is "produced;" I don't know about you.  We have had several "winters" that were warm, sunny, blissful paradise-like for weeks on end, perhaps with an occasional day or two of rain.  There are corners of the county in which I live that might get 150 inches in a wet year; 40 to 80 is normal depending on where you are.  It just hasn't happened.  Twenty inches now for several years running and the main river has run dry in places and in ways no one can remember.

The only thing "illegals" have to do with this whole pending disaster is the "mano de obra" (laboring hands) that do much of the very seasonal work to keep the vast agribusiness monocrop pesticide-laden "system" going.  Golf courses for Mexicans?  Doubt it, dude.  BIg rolling spreads of grass around the house of your average "illegal?"  Doubt it, dude, with all respect.

Growing RICE in Glenn and Colusa County?  STUPID?  You bet!
Cotton and Almonds (4 gallons per almond) throughout the Sacramento and San Joaquin Valleys?  STUPID?  You bet!

It's simply unsustainable for more reasons than there is time to relate. 

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 19:59 | 5353601 Karaio
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@ UpWising: 

 

You're one of the guys who write interesting things. 

Almost pissed myself with laughter the "Dear Sun Tzu -. No water because almost no rain is very simple." 

Putz! 

Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk! 

Bration there! 

Alexandre. 

:-)

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 00:53 | 5354235 Freddie
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Californians voted on a ballot inititative during Pete Wilson's term to reduce benefits to illegal aliens to try to stop the invasion.   The voters voted for it and it became law.  A liberal judge overturned what the VOTERS VOTED FOR. 

Don't tell me liberals and Democrats are NOT responsible for this folks.  Yeah red team blue team but a liberal judge overturned the voters wishes.  

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:33 | 5353062 orez65
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"no worries Republicans."

No worries Democrats and Liberals, let's spend another Trillion $'s in High Speed Trains, salaries for dead beat teachers, life guards, university professors, unions, cell phones for "poor people", potato chips and coke for poor people ...

Instead you poop heads should have been building de-salination plants. There is plenty of water in the Pacific Ocean.

You make me want to vomit sh.t head!

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:35 | 5353067 sun tzu
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Notice how the 0bola supporters are blaming the bombing of Libya and Syria on Republicans when 0bola went in all alone without the support of the UN or Congress.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:34 | 5353371 upWising
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"With the Republicans and the Democrats it's like Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dumb.  There's not a dime's worth of difference between the two of them."

––George C. Wallace, 1968.  Erstwhile Presidential Candidate, Governor and First Gentleman of Alabama, and Inveterate (and ultimately contrite) Racist.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 23:15 | 5354114 TheMeatTrapper
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George Wallace was no racist. He was a very skilled politician. He was the first Bill Clinton. 

Wallace was a racist when it got him votes. He was a contrite reformed enlightened man when that would get him votes. 

His entire "school house stand" was a political ploy designed to force the Kennedys, who controlled the Democratic party, to lift their opposition to him running for President. 

The Kennedys were blocking his career. They also wanted to integrate the University of Alabama. Wallace stood in their way. A deal was reached. The black students walked in the back door, escorted by Alabama State Troopers while Wallace stood in the door and made a speech designed to get the white vote, while the Kennedys cleared the way for his 1968 Presidential run. 

Wallace was famous for walking into a hick town and asking the crowd what problems they had. Somebody would say the main road was so muddy when it rained that the school bus would get stuck. Wallace would turn to his staff and order that the road be paved. Immediately. When the people saw the road get paved - word spread far and wide that Wallace "was a man of his word and got things done". That would be repeated at every barber shop and feed store until it became gospel. 

I lived through it all and could write a book. 

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 03:42 | 5354368 chumbawamba
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Do.

Chumblez.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 00:02 | 5354176 assistedliving
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orez did u notice every dollar u spent on 'poor people' was spent HERE.  believe me, im a small business owner and less

taxes, less regulations, less TSA rings my bell.  but i personally know two, count em two, republican families, laid off, gonna

lose their homes but extended UEI, and the mortgage relief saved them until they got jobs.  Paycut from $100K down to $75 but he kept his

home...and choked when he admitted he voted for 'healthcare Romney and 'bomb bomb Iran McNut and side kick imPalin.  The Paul's make

more and more sense i hv to say 

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:28 | 5353046 svayambhu108
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Empty the aquifers what could go wrong!

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:36 | 5353069 synopsisTODAY
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Spot on. Predictable and predicted: http://www.pnas.org/content/102/43/15352.short

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:35 | 5353228 svayambhu108
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Salinization, that's not a real problem, we will use the abundant cheap oil from fraking for desalinization, after all we have more oil the the Saudi.

Never say never, how disconnected than this can be:

Desalinate the Pacific
We will use hydrogen from the sun and oxygen from the atmosphere to make water.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 03:44 | 5354375 svayambhu108
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take the above with a grain of salt, maybe I should have use the #ironic

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 22:38 | 5357840 Abbie Normal
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It takes 5X the volume of water to frac a barrel of oil.  Now we're going to turn around and use that oil to desalinate water?

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:35 | 5353058 no bones
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Was the videographer of this segment choking on chemtrails as he took this footage? Here is the reason for your drought Californians. Bone up and mobilize.

Baja HAARP Kills Hurricane Norbert, Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLuCgLh8lUcvGk7Z6S2kCHLM34WxW16STz&v=...

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:33 | 5353064 gmak
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The implied predictions from 'Cadillac Desert' are coming to pass. It's easier to create a paradise when you are stealing water. When you rob Peter to pay Paul, Paul will vote for it everytime. But when Peter stops the theft, Paul must resort to the previous natural state.

IN this case, nature is returning that entire region of world back to the desert that it came from.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:46 | 5353097 robnume
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Hey, you're the only other person I know who's read "Cadillac Desert". Great read, huh? I've always said that Robert Towne read that book before he scripted "Chinatown". BTW, if anyone's interested in CA water rights, the San Bernardino Law Library has the most extensive records of water rights, historically speaking, than any other single source in CA.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:05 | 5353154 QQQBall
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 now you know 2.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:06 | 5353306 Hobo Sapien
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make  that 3. Awesome, prophetic book.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 19:54 | 5353581 ForTheWorld
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Number four here. Received it not too long ago and it was eye opening to say the least.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 23:31 | 5354133 skepsis101
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FIVE!  and that, nearly thirty years ago.  Which should give some perspective on human nature.  

Most, if not all, of us tend to look the other way when we know something we participate in is really wrong or unsustainable if there is a short-term personal gain to be had, whether playing the casino/markets or transforming natural environments to suit our wants, we tend to follow the herd because "no one else will notice".   That way it's never our fault.

Damn, sometimes I think the over-evolved human race comprises the stupidest animals on the planet.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 19:24 | 5353508 zjxn06
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"BTW, if anyone's interested in CA water rights, the San Bernardino Law Library has the most extensive records of water rights, historically speaking, than any other single source in CA."

This book is pretty good as well.  Family business (publicly traded as BWEL) that owns massive water rights in the Central Valley.

http://www.amazon.com/The-King-Of-California-American/dp/1586482815

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 22:25 | 5354016 MeBizarro
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Chinatown came out in '74.  Cadillac Desert wasn't published until '86.  

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 22:30 | 5354030 Hovel Downs
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You got there first.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 22:28 | 5354027 Hovel Downs
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Great book. Great movie, but Chinatown was made before the book was written.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 01:55 | 5354287 trader1
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got nomad?

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:37 | 5353070 sun tzu
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The Clownifornians are always saying Texas is a desert with no water. LOL

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:54 | 5353117 El Vaquero
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And New Mexico is mostly a desert, yet I just harvested and roasted a bunch of green chile.  Just waiting for the roaster to cool down so that I can start peeling and chopping it.  Agriculture can be done in a desert, but it looks a wee bit different from what they do in California.  

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:42 | 5353081 socalbeach
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I didn't realize this was happening until I read it about a month ago researching the drought.

(Feburary 6, 2014)

Drought Wars: Where did the farm water go?

"... So, amid all the finger-pointing, where did the farm water go? We’re in the early stages of the drought. But so far some conclusions can be drawn. About 1,268,000 acre-feet of water combined from Lake Trinity and the San Joaquin Reservoir was spilled for fish restoration in 2012-13, resulting in a massive draw down of storage water that flowed to the ocean instead of being conserved and returned to the natural terrestrial water cycle. Therein lies a major reason for a shortage of stored water for agriculture going in to a third consecutive year of a dry spell..."

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:15 | 5353187 flyingcaveman
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They are litteraly trying to push back the ocean, which is stupid!

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:40 | 5353248 FeralSerf
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No, they're trying to make sure the farmers go broke so the Zioligarchs can foreclose on them and transfer that wealth too. After all the transfers are made, the delta smelt and the rest of the red herrings will be forgotten and the water will go to the new owners.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 00:56 | 5354240 Freddie
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They did the same thing in 1929.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 19:52 | 5353573 monoloco
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I hate to break the news to you but 1,200,000 acre feet of water is a drop in the bucket and wouldn't supply the central valley for one day.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 22:01 | 5353843 socalbeach
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Even if you're correct it's a lot of $.  I found this which implies the current market value of that water would be $1.4 billion vs $177 million last year.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-24/california-water-prices-soar-fo...

"Costs have soared to $1,100 per acre-foot from about $140 a year ago in the Fresno-based Westlands Water District..."

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 01:33 | 5353965 socalbeach
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This study by UC Davis implies 1.268 million acre-feet of water would have supplied Central Valley farmers for about 23 days (1.268/20 * 365 (20 = 1.5/0.075)). That's assuming they use the same amount of water year-round.  In any event your "less than one day" estimate is way off.

http://news.ucdavis.edu/search/news_detail.lasso?id=10933

"The additional pumping will cost an estimated $450 million and still leave a shortage of 1.5 million acre-feet of irrigation water, about 7.5 percent of normal irrigation water use in the Central Valley, according to the forecast..."

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:43 | 5353085 robnume
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Just read about bear eats man. Only 75 miles or so from my county. That's how bad the drought is up here; bears are so hungry and thirsty that they'll eat anything this year. We don't generally have bear attacks in No. CA, but this year is different. Scary stuff, huh?

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:45 | 5353087 Bear
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Bears have to eat too ... and gorging on bulls only goes so far.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:04 | 5353147 general ambivalent
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It was a black bear, and they will take a free meal (you never play dead with a black bear).

Generally an animal would not eat when dehydrated since it makes the situation worse. I think this was just a coincidence.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 01:05 | 5354249 Freddie
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Liberal Democrats voted for this.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:49 | 5353090 H H Henry P P P...
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As long as the Capitol keeps its acres and acres of grass nice and green, I will not worry about the water situation.  However, I see water rates skyrocketing in the near future, with an additional water tax to be paired with it.  Regardless if we have a storm of the century this winter in California, the high rates and taxes will never go away... after all, it'll just be another way to loophole itself around our blessed Prop 13.

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Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:47 | 5353094 Jack Burton
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" John Steinbeck was born on February 27, 1902 in Salinas, California, the third child of Olive Hamilton, former school teacher, and John Ernst Steinbeck, Monterey County treasurer. The Victorian house in which Steinbeck grew up still stands in Salinas today."

Anyone lucky enough to have read through all of Steinbeck's writing would know he knew California and knew it from the ground up, before the post war boom of the 1950's.  He writes of the weather and the fat years, when winter rains came and crops were like from a paradise. And he writes of the lean years, when the winter rains were little of none, then this paradise of crop land became nearly desert. But in his day the cycles were short term and the rains always came back. People who were native, like the Spanish before him knew this all too well. Down San Diego way, where the modern city lies was once a desert, of small brush, sand and rattle snakes gallor. Today this great city is awash in greenery, green lawns, trees, flowers, bushes and gardens. The growth has been explosive, even since I was there in the 80's.

The historical records of tree rings and other climate history markers, tell a tale of long droughts, century long droughts, punctuated by shorter wet periods. All we do know for fact, is that from the 1930 - 2000's, as explosive growth ripped California, and the central valley became a world class food producer, all this happened is an extraordinary period of wet climate. Rains and snows we off the charts by California standards. If nothing changes soon, we might be entering the end of this wet period, and begining dry cycles at best, and epic long term drought at worst.

I know on thing for fact, politicians produce no rains, no water. You can't squeeze water out of the political system. Water rights and laws were written in the past, for a wet period. When water was abundant the laws got put in place, and those there first got "water rights" rights that are like ancient aristocracy, passed down family lines. Just like fishing rights where I live, you can only fish if your ancestors have hereditary rights, which can be sold or rented. I assume water rights work the same.

The weather will decide, not politicians. Fighting over the scraps. Do farmers get the water, and do you short great cities like LA, and Sam Diego? Glad I am not there to see the fights about to break out there. End of story.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 21:07 | 5353742 Implied Violins
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I don't disagree that there are long periods where the west undergoes droughts. However, this one is definitely being helped along on many levels, and as a Biologist in CA I can tell you that we are finding spikes of aluminum in the Sacramento River and I know of one for sure that corresponded with visual sightings of planes leaving behind persistent contrails. Geoengineering is real, and people need to get their head around it before it's too late.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 16:06 | 5356355 FrankDrakman
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Let's all strap on tin-foil hats for a moment, and assume you're correct. We've seen food riots in Egypt, Tunis, Libya, and elsewhere overthrow governments. Why would the US government take a chance to impoverish their wealthiest state, and enflame the populace with rising food prices? If they could actually DO this, why aren't they doing it over Iran and Iraq?

FAIL.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:46 | 5353096 Gunter
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Very sad.

 

Seriously, why are we able to build oil pipelines many thousand miles long but not water pipelines form those states with more than enough water to California? Somebody has to do it.

Hint: The government won't

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:52 | 5353279 Bad Asset
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All states bordering the great lakes have an agreement to never do exactly that.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:57 | 5353290 Rememberweimar
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That's really stupid of them

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 05:19 | 5354406 ebear
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No, it's not.

The Great Lakes and Mississippi River are two of the most important shipping routes in the world.  Mess with the water levels there, and you're messing with just about everything. California's a drop in the bucket by comparison.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:56 | 5353287 Haloween1
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As others have noted on this thread, there's plenty of  land in the midwest that could be used to raise sheep and veggies and such.  At the right price, that land will take over the job. All that needs to happen is for the price of produce to increase enough so midwest farmers can hire labor at a living wage to take care of the harvest.  California farmers exploit cheap labor from Mexico and Central America.  They are a big contributor to our nation's illegal immigration problem.  Running pipelines to California in order to perpetuate this exploitation is not the answer.

By the way, the skeletal remains of the sheep were probably the doings of a coyote pack, not starvation.  Take a walk in sheep land anywhere and you will find these kind of remains, drought or not.

 

 

 

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:25 | 5353345 Jack Burton
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Government tried, wanted to. I live where the water is, and from the 1950 to the 1990's scheme after scheme came out of the dry states to build large pipelines from our water to their dry states. Do you think our politicians sat back and said, "sure, we will glady be the starting point for the giant water sucking pumps to fill piplines running south. Nope! Not happening. Besidesm volum is different, oil is valuable by the barrel, water needs are massive, an oil size pipeline would be a joke as to needs and costs. No, I do not see my water ever being piped south.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 21:45 | 5353877 Almost Solvent
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Tunnel to the Pacific and flood death valley. Build a shit ton of desalination plants.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 05:23 | 5354407 ebear
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Nawww, just tow a few icebergs down from Alaska.

(clear off the polar bears first, of course)

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:48 | 5353101 TrustbutVerify
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Are they still irrigating...RICE FIELDS?  

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:51 | 5353106 Bear
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And cotton ... California is the country's largest rice and cotton producer ... both require large quantaties of water

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:58 | 5353124 kowalli
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and marijuana 

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:05 | 5353152 El Vaquero
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Yet they could be growing these:

 

http://www.plantsofthesouthwest.com/Sonoran-Tepary-Bean/productinfo/V6054/

(They dry farm those in the Sonoran Desert.)

Or these:

http://shop.nativeseeds.org/collections/melons/products/f023

(If you water them too much, they'll taste like shit.  I watered mine maybe once a month and they were sweet and flavorful.)

 

Or one of the various cultivars of these:

http://shop.nativeseeds.org/collections/chiles/products/d004

(You don't water the NM cultivars unless they're drooping before early afternoon.  In Hatch, NM, that's about once a week.  If it is even thinking about raining, hold off.)

 

There are drought adapted squashes and other crops as well.  There is also conditioning the soil to hold more moisture, and working with swales to make the most of what you have.  The sooner farmers understand that there is only so far we're going to bend the environment to meet our needs, the sooner they can shift to trying to work with nature rather than trying to outright control it.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:09 | 5353311 css1971
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Farmers supply markets. If they can't find a market for Tepary beans then they aren't going to grow them.

Normally price inflation would drive people away from expensive to cheaper to produce produce, but these days with agricultural subsidies, that's simply likely to appear as a larger government deficit, and the continued consumption of the expensive produce.

If you like your californian rice, you can keep your californian rice.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:28 | 5353354 El Vaquero
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Most people have never even heard of tepary beans, much less tried them.  I have tried them, and I like them more than I like common beans.  (Pintos are just one cultivar of common bean.)  They also have more protein than common beans.  With all of the health fads these days, I guarantee that a market for them could be made easily.  Their flavor speaks for itself, and they could be marketed as an environmentally friendly healthy food, which they actually are if properly grown.

 

Besides, subsidies won't fix California's problem.  This time, we won't be dealing with a demand constrained situation, we'll be dealing with a supply constrained situation.  Not that the geniuses in the Treasury, USDA and the Fed will model it as such, but that is what it will be.  There is no Keynesian solution to this problem, only hopes that the water returns.  

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 19:05 | 5353464 tip e. canoe
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don't forget amaranth.

did you see geoff lawton's new video yet?
it's in your neck of the woods

oasis in an american desert
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8_OhKl2Vb90

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 20:03 | 5353612 El Vaquero
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Lawton has what I consider a healthy way of looking at things.  He's more about nudging nature rather than trying to control it outright.  

 

Thanks for that video as I had not yet watched it.  Anybody who can green up Jordan know's what he's doing.  

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:27 | 5353348 Jack Burton
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Are they? Didn't Texas also grow rice? I seem to remember a Texas Rice growers association at one time. And a CBS "60 Minutes" show on Texas Rice, like in the late 80's maybe.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:48 | 5353102 LosOsos
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"Bunchgrass prairies and oak woodlands once covered the valley floor, and great tule marshes extended over the floodplain. Wetlands, containing the richest of habitats for a wide variety of plants and animals, formerly encompassed perhaps 5 million acres. Beavers in the inland streams first lured European Americans across the continent to California in the 1820s. Overhead is the Pacific flyway, a heavily traveled route for migrating birds."~James Rawls. California: An Interpretive History. on the Central Valley

 

It's amazing what just a century of mismanaged water supplies can do. Who would've thought that chopping down trees for mono cropping, salting the earth, and diverting water streams to the deserts of so cal would have a negative consequence?

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:27 | 5353350 Jack Burton
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Nice post!

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 22:11 | 5353969 Hovel Downs
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It was seasonel.  The San Joaquin Valley was a huge inland lake in the spring but by late summer and fall it reverted to a land like in the video. Every fucking year.  Drought years the lake was smaller.  Wet years it didn't dry up as fast.  The great rivers of the Sierra always became little bitty creeks in the late summer.  

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 22:20 | 5353989 Hovel Downs
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Read some Steinbeck...Bichez

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 22:11 | 5353970 Hovel Downs
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It was seasonel.  The San Joaquin Valley was a huge inland lake in the spring but by late summer and fall it reverted to a land like in the video. Every fucking year.  Drought years the lake was smaller.  Wet years it didn't dry up as fast.  The great rivers of the Sierra always became little bitty creeks in the late summer.  

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:54 | 5353114 skbull44
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Infinite growth on a finite planet, what could possibly go wrong?

http://olduvai.ca

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:28 | 5353356 Jack Burton
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Indeed! People still think growth is infinite, and most attended a school of economics. Not a school of History, for History will tell you about civilizations hitting limits and crashing down in flames, over and over again.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 19:39 | 5353543 BringOnTheAsteroid
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And as far as I know it's only religious nutters who are still breeding like bloody rabbits because don't you know, the bible says go forth and procreate. A moronic relative of mine actually thinks it's his duty to fill the world with more christians and christians wonder why secular society has had a gut full of their bullshit. Yeh right mate, you go ahead and populate the world with christians and they'll die the horrible death your bible predicts. Funny how the bible will actually become a self fulfilling prophesy. 

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 09:16 | 5354715 SubjectivObject
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... suggest; "religionist nutters" there.

Practitioners of religionism, more as a social ideology than an actual path for spriritual development.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:56 | 5353118 kowalli
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What could go wrong when you are growing marijuana and rice in desert?

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:58 | 5353125 general ambivalent
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At one time the Middle East had the best farmland in the world. Look at it now.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 16:59 | 5353131 homiegot
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Reverse Dust Bowl. Sucks to be you. It'll be someone else in the future. Don't move to my area. We don't have a lot of water either.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 01:16 | 5354256 Freddie
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Hopefully people in other states will beat up Californians trying to escape the Dust Bowl just like the way the Californians beat up Okies during the Depression.

Oh and cinema Okie Henry Fonda was OSS and the family was very connected as they emigrated from Holland:
Henry Fonda, on the other hand, is a direct descendent of Jellis Douw Fonda and Hester Jans Fonda, Dutch colonists who arrived in New York circa 1650 and settled near what would become Albany. The Fondas had sailed out of Friesland, Netherlands on a ship dubbed the Valckenier, which happened to be co-owned by a very wealthy Dutchman by the name of Jan-Baptist van Rensselaer. And Mr. van Rensselaer, as those who have been paying attention in class will recall, happened to be from the bloodline that would one day produce a guy by the name of David van Cortland Crosby.

http://www.mygen.com/Laurel_Canyon-David_McGowan_report.htm

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:02 | 5353141 css1971
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Start putting in solar panels rather than farming.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:05 | 5353151 homiegot
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Did you know that most of America's produce comes from the Central Valley of California? 

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:09 | 5353169 css1971
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They can always import from China.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:09 | 5353171 Bear
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'Came' from the Central Valley

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 20:15 | 5353639 RobD
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Veggies are highly overrated, see my avatar for whats realy good for you.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:12 | 5353143 kchrisc
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I don't know if this video piece is inaccurate or not, however, The New Yorker is a Zionist and propaganda media outlet.

As such, I don't think that is is a coincidence that they shot this in black and white and used some kind of "muting" filter in the opening aerial shots. Especially in the third shot with a river in the middle.

Those opening aerial shots depict a landscape with various and strong contrasts indicating something being grown on the land. On some of the plots the actual relief of what is being grown can actually be seen.

If it is real they should have put it out in color instead of trying to manipulate or "emote" it up with black and white photography.

An American, not US subject.

 

"Why do you think Schindler's List was shot in black and white?!".

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:22 | 5353204 Majestic12
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ON TOPIC

The history of union busting in the United States dates back to the Industrial Revolution in the 19th century which produced a rapid expansion in factories and manufacturing capabilities. As workers moved away from farm work to factories, mines and other hard labor, they faced harsh working conditions such as long hours, low pay and health risks. Children and women worked in factories and generally received lower pay than men. The government did little to limit these injustices. Labor movements in the industrialized world developed that lobbied for better rights and safer conditions. Shaped by wars, depressions, government policies, judicial rulings, and global competition, the early years of the battleground between unions and management were adversarial and often identified with aggressive hostility. Contemporary opposition to trade unions known as union busting started in the 1940s and continues to present challenges to the labor movement. Union busting is a term used by labor organizations and trade unions to describe the activities that may be undertaken by employers, their proxies, workers and in certain instances states and governments usually triggered by events such as picketing, card check, organizing, and strike actions.[1] Labor legislation has changed the nature of union busting, as well as the organizing tactics that labor organizations commonly use.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_union_busting_in_the_United_States

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:33 | 5353232 Majestic12
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Union busting is a field populated by bullies and built on deceit. A campaign against a union is an assault on individuals and a war on truth. As such, it is a war without honor. The only way to bust a union is to lie, distort, manipulate, threaten, and always, always attack.

Martin Jay Levitt, 1993, Confessions of a Union Buster

Jackson, Lewis, Schnitzler & Krupman, founded in 1958 and headquartered on Park Avenue in New York, is a national "labor and employment law firm" which represents management exclusively. With 20 offices in 11 states, more than 300 lawyers and annual revenues of nearly $40 million, they are formidable indeed.

One of the first outfits to refine the techniques of "coaching" management on preventing unionization, Jackson Lewis is also one of the few bold enough to write a book on the subject. But don't look for "Winning NLRB Elections: Avoiding Unionization Through Preventative Employee Relations Programs" on the shelves at Barnes & Noble. Jackson Lewis won't even sell the book, now in its fourth edition, to individuals, let alone to unions.

You can count on the consultant to publicize everything he can find about the union's dues rates and initiation fees. He'll also do his best to distort the reality that dues are necessary to provide collective bargaining and contract administration services, arbitration hearings, education, job training and strike assistance.

In their zeal to portray unions as "outside third parties," consultants will direct payroll departments to deduct the maximum dues amount from employees' checks during an organizing campaign, and then reissue the deducted amount in a separate check. "This is what you can expect every month if the union gets in," they'll proclaim.

Companies whose workers are organizing to gain union representation will pay tens of thousands, and sometimes millions of dollars to law or consulting firms in order to defeat organizing drives rather than allocating that money towards quality wages and benefits for their employees. The disdain for unionization is so strong that oftentimes employers will spend more money on "union avoidance" than the employees are asking for in their contract demands.

While employers have always resisted efforts to organize, union-busting firms did not become prominent until the 1970's. There are now thousands of these firms across the country, and their rise has a direct correlation with the decline in union density from 29% of U.S. workers in 1964 to 13% today.

Lawyers and “labor-management” consulting firms get paid to help employers keep workers from exercising their right to form a union. Companies also send managers and supervisors to union-busting seminars and follow consultant-prepared “scripts” for keeping unions at bay.. They often pay thousands of dollars per employee to keep the union out — instead of putting that money into better pay, benefits and working conditions for employees. They bank on the idea that if they defeat a union once, following the script, they won’t have to do it again.

Organized labor has been under assault for decades in this country, and if the Midwest offers any indication, a new breed of anti-union laws could be coming to your town next. In 2012, amid bitter protests at the state capitol in Indianapolis, Republicans voted to admit Indiana into the legion of "right-to-work" states, meaning that many of its unions could no longer require employees under their representation to pay dues. But even as that law has wound its way through a number of legal fights, another, largely unnoticed right-to-work battle has cropped up in the nearby city of Fort Wayne, where local officials have taken things a step further. This summer, the Republican supermajority in the city council pushed through a series of bills—including its very own local right-to-work law—that make it far more difficult for unions to represent government employees.

Conservatives love it when states to pass right-to-work laws, since they represent an existential threat to the power of unions, which rely on dues for both daily operation and institutional growth. Twenty-four states have adopted them. Stirring potent passions across the political spectrum, right-to-work laws act as both agent and symbol of the county's declining rates of unionization and the fading clout of labor. While it remains uncertain which, if any, of the (relatively few) pro-labor states will join this trend, right-wingers are eyeing a potentially massive new battleground for their pro-business regime: individual cities and counties across the country.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 22:22 | 5353997 DipshitMiddleCl...
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Unions are scum and give business incentive to go elsewhere. The last thing the US of A needs is union idiots making a come back.

 

 

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 01:23 | 5354260 Freddie
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What are we talking about union busting for?  WTF?  Govt shill retard.  Calliefornia voters voted on a ballot proposal to reduce benefits to illegal aliens to stop the invasion of the state.   The voted passed along with the law. A liberal judge struck down the voters will. 

This was back in Pete Wilson's admin and California has gone to shit since then.  That was when CAL populations was 10 million less people - mostly illegals.   10 million more people using water.   The lack of water has nothing to do with 1930s fantasies of union busting.  Idiot.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 11:14 | 5355087 FrankDrakman
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If labour unions were content to limit their meddling to pay and benefits, I'd have a lot less of a problem with them. The problem is they take over, and begin to think they're management. "We need to someone to write these contract numbers on the pieces until our printer is fixed" - Union response - "We don't have a job category for that, so you'll need a supervisor to do it. That will be $38/hr plus benefits, plus you'll need to train him for at least two days, and train at least 3 backups in case of absence due to illness, vacation, etc.". Mgmt - "but the printer will be fixed this afternoon - we just need someone for two hours." Union - "We don't have a job category for that, so you'll need a supervisor......"

This is adapted a bit from a story I heard from Britain in the 1970's, just before Thatcher got in. If the uinons are willing to let management manage, that's one thing; unfortunately, that's rarely true, so we get union management, which might be great for the employees, but not so great for the customers.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 02:03 | 5354293 trader1
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Many of you have asked why the director chose to film Schindler’s List in black and white.  This moving film is probably the most famous black and white film of modern times.  It is thought by many critics that Spielberg chose to film Schindler’s List in black and white to create an extra layer of horrific realism. It is interesting to note that this film did not have storyboards as director Steven Spielberg looked to Holocaust documentaries for inspiration which helps to explain the use of documentary style in the film.

Janusz Kaminski, Schindler’s List’s Director of Photography, said when he discussed the look:

“I was ecstatic to be working with Steven, and yet when we began filming it brought home the sickening reality of the Holocaust. The newsreel quality of the black and white seemed to fade the barriers of time, making [the footage] feel like an ongoing horror that I was witnessing firsthand. I think I can speak for the whole crew when I say the experience was sobering.”

It is also worth noting that the film was shot without the usual use of modern filmmaking tools such as cranes, steadicam and zoom lenses. There was much use of hand held camera shots (40%) which helped to make the film seem realistic. Perhaps the lack of more modern filmmaking tools also helped the viewer to focus on the story being told and help bring alive the time period portrayed in the film.

http://ncowie.wordpress.com/2012/02/18/why-is-schindlers-list-in-black-a...

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:05 | 5353150 Karaio
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Off-topic: 

 

I'll tell you one thing. 

I live in Brazil and I comment on blogs from Germany, Russia, USA, France, Portugal (do not really like to talk with Portuguese when they descobem I'm Brazilian conversation turns to shit). 

French commentators are extremely pedantic, full of sí, boring guys bakarai. 

The Germans and Russians, when you comment, answer receives one or two weeks later. 

The guys think cud and all the possibilities of what you wrote is very interesting and requires patience chess player. 

Talking to Americans is interesting as a timely response. 

It is interesting as the quality and the amount of people who did not acquire historical and geographical knowledge worldwide. 

Another stark difference between talking to other people in the world is on the responses. 

If you comment on a review of a German, a Russian, a French or Portuguese, he does not understand that and an offense, he understands that you are interested in what he wrote and will respond. 

When you comment on a review of a blog as ZeroHedge, most guys think you're staring at him as if in a bar. 

You can not look too obvious of an American what he thinks you want to fight. 

That's not cool, not really. 

All who know use Google Chrome and your translator can understand and write in several languages??. 

Interestingly not observe the errors of translation, it is interesting to get the idea that the speaker is trying to convey. 

Already identified Russians, Indians, Germans and Poles trying to comment here, many saw escurraçados, humiliated. 

You Americans really lose it, do not know and have no idea what the rest of the world has to say. 

For my part, I always try to know what those who live in other countries think about Brazil, is a way to geolocate my world. 

I like to know if and where Brazil is missing in its foreign policy, it is very important to me. 

Business is business, you can not enter the home of someone who hates you. 

I hope I have clarified some points. 

O que falei acima não é nenhuma lição de moral ou tentativa de mudar as coisas, é apenas uma constatação e um alerta de um velho que comenta em Blogs na Rede desde o tempo em que computadores utilizavam acesso discado e, quando em Rede eram cabos eram coaxiais nos computadores com processador "286".

:-)

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:09 | 5353161 Bear
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Rigth back at ya Bud

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:19 | 5353197 homiegot
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Americans don't give a shit what other people think. We are the center of the Universe and as such, everyone else should pretty much do our bidding. We fought a revolution, and won, to throw off tyrannical rule. Maybe that's why we have such disdain for people that don't attempt to throw off their oppressors. True, Americans are in the midst of a terrible tyrannical rule, again, but we will get around to throwng this one off eventually. 

Don't take our asshole comments personally. Just know that we will be sending our military to your country soon to force you to accept 'Democracy' because you can't acheive it yourselves.

Have a nice day.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:33 | 5353234 kchrisc
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"Americans don't give a shit what other people think. We are the center of the Universe and as such, everyone else should pretty much do our bidding."

So true for most unfortunately.

I have and do spend a lot of time perusing comments on propaganda media sites. I do this to gauge general trends and attitudes. The worm is turning against the gun and badge thugs, and the sheeple WANT to believe the propaganda on Ebola, and against the "illegals"--"They took our jobs!"

One thing that I have noticed is that the American sheeple's attitudes about "American/US exceptionalism" have grown more militant as the evidence refuting it has stacked up.

Reminds me of some things I have learned about the rise of the Nazis in Germany. "Stab in the back..."

An American, not US subject.

 

"The death of America is in the bathroom mirror."

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:50 | 5353417 Jack Burton
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" One thing that I have noticed is that the American sheeple's attitudes about "American/US exceptionalism" have grown more militant as the evidence refuting it has stacked up."

Very good observation. If one leaves ZH and goes to Main Stream News and Blogs in the USA, you see no hint of introspection, none at all. They tend to "Tell" what they think they know, they rarely question the American Exceptionalism line. In fact, they become hostile to anything that may question that idea. I stay away and usually read, but never comment. I comment mostly on ZH as it seems to hold an extraordinary amount of thinking people. People beyond the Main Stream thought patter, the patter built into Americans by "Public Education" "Liberal University Education" " General Lack of Military Service" " The Main Stream Media, TV, Films and total liar News Networks FOX, CNN". People who exist inside that bubble are the worst and least knowledgable people you can imagine. To them, "opinion" is "fact". Their "opinion" is inviolabe. The USA is exceptional becuase most AMericans know nothing else. Like a Russian I met, way out in the Urals in an industrial city. His world view was amazing, and I noticed his limited thought ability seemed to match most Americans I knew. Only his thoughts were Russian oriented and the American sees all the world as American, with foreign people being imposters with no right to anything that the USA does not allow them to have. I see this with Russia right now. Many Americans I know think that Russia is American, and that those people stole it from us, and they have no right to live and act without out approval.  This holds true for other places and nations. "America centric" is all pervasive syndrome that makes THEIR opinons right, and all others suspect at best, and evil at worst. If you defend a foreigner to an American you get this in return. "Fuck, go move there then!" "What are you, another America hater?" This form of defensive response hides a deep seated lack of perspective, out side Public High School" "MTV" " Universty Beer Parties" and "Media Barinwashing". I never talked with a foreign person who got mad if I pointed to probelms inside their nations. Like in Britain. Russia, Sweden etc. If there was something wrong there, they tended to admit as much, and not get all crazy defensive. As long as you were logical in your point, here in the USA, logic will get your teetch kicked in in most places, if you fail to support the AMerican Imperial Exceptionalism Line". The USA right to invade Iraq, back then, that is a reflection of how the USA mind works, we invade for no reason, because we want to and that is our right. But Russia must not help East Ukrainians of their own blood, because we say so, and what right does an American have to say so? None! But does that stop them? Fuck no!

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 19:15 | 5353492 himaroid
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I dig the way you articulate it. My impatience has reduced me to guttural grunts of disgust.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 01:28 | 5354265 Karaio
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Foda-se!

hehe.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 22:47 | 5354064 cherry picker
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My children are American, so is their grandmother.  She once said to me, "What has Canada ever contributed to the world?  If it weren't for us you wouldn't be."

I am not a patriot to any country, I pick and choose what I think is right in my eyes.  Her comment angered me.  He aura of supremacy and ignorance I have observed many times with Americans.  Many who have not accomplished much and sit on a couch watching tv are quick to take credit for the Americans who have accomplished something.  However, I discovered that those who have accompished something are usually more humble and appreciative of others accomplishments, regardless of where they came from.

 

 

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 10:20 | 5354896 FrankDrakman
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"What has Canada ever contributed to the world?".

Well, Granny, we spent the first two years of WWI and WWII ferrying stuff over to keep Britain alive, and having tens of thousands of our boys die either in Europe or the Atlantic, while you Americans sat on your over-stuffed asses, and waited out the first period of both wars. So, there's that.

but of all the contributions Canada has made to the world, two stand out now more than ever: TV's instant replay, and Wonder-bra.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 22:53 | 5354075 Atomizer
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Another great post Jack. I'm somewhat guilty of my actions. Love my United States of America country, the hell fire Scottish DNA tends to kick in. 

Keep up your great contributions to the ZH family. 

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 00:31 | 5354214 Karaio
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@ Atomizer: 

Grateful! 

:-)

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 00:44 | 5354226 Karaio
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@ Jack Burton: 

Yes, you - the USA - will be tackled militarily but rather its economy will lie and Europe will bag along pro. 

That day is very close and I pity you and the Europeans, one lot of unemployed people who can not drive a nail without a special hammer. 

When the shit grab you will quickly identify the words I say here in this Blog to three months. 

Think like this: "that son of a bitch was right ... the Brazilian". 

hehe.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 01:33 | 5354270 Freddie
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Americans are fully brainwashed by TV and Hollywood into a normalcy bias where they think things are fine.   Tv and Hollywood have endless movies and shows about wonderful govt agencies, black ops, spy agencies and other BS.

The See Eye Aye controls the news, TV and Hollywood along with the zios.  I stopped watching that shit many years ago. 

The creepiest part of America is movies and TV glorified wars and bombing people.   The media picks a villan, gets the idiots riled up and then we all decide we need to bomb them good.

What kind of normal and rational person thinks that bombing and murdering innocent people is a sane and civilized idea.  It is insanity but it is considered normal.

TV, news, newspapers, radio news and talkshows plus Hollywood brainwash the idiots that bombing and mass murder is a good thing.     

We need to bomb the hell out of them.  How is that ANY different that say Charlie Manson?

 

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:44 | 5353258 Karaio
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@ Homiegot: 

Brazilian drove French and Dutch. 

Jews expelled from Salvador-Bahia - who went to NY. 

If you study a little more of the history of Brazil will be surprised at what these people can do. 

The first village was founded in 1532 in Sao Vicente-SP. 

Homiegot, look, I do not know why but I think Brazilians are very similar to those Russians, they never threaten anyone like you're talking about. 

We are people of peace but we do not fear war. 

Despite the ban on weapons, we still have a rural elite that uses weapons needed, we are almost in the same situation before the US IIWW with many smart hillbillies ready to face whatever the fuck comes. 

If you do not know, we have our own "Ebola" with rifle shooting and fish from the sea or river bottom. 

Kills in seven days, do not need more than that - generalized infection. 

Invade and "democratize" Brazil is crazy thing behind a chair in the Pentagon. 

Homiegot, you've probably never been here. 

If you were not captured the soul of what being Brazilian. 

hehe.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 19:51 | 5353572 WillyGroper
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Not everyone here is a flaming ass. Most here can appreciate new perspectives and share info from different fields of expertise and can be very helpful.

Although there are some that are exceptional...

Welcome.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 22:57 | 5354081 post turtle saver
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"we're Americans... if we want your opinion, we'll give you one and beat it out of you"

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:24 | 5353212 kchrisc
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I'm American.

" You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? Then who the hell else are you talking... you talking to me? Well I'm the only one here. Who the fuck do you think you're talking to? Oh yeah? OK"

: - )

 

"I like to know if and where Brazil is missing in its foreign policy, it is very important to me."

The lesson of the American people and country is:

1) Keep a continuous eye on those that call themselves "your government," and hold them accountable for their crimes or they will enslave you.

2) Always remember that what they accuse foreigners of and do to foreigners is what they want and will eventuality do to you and your countrymen: "The war, racket, always comes home."

3) Keep track of how many Ashkenazi foreigners and/or dual-citizens dominate government, finance, and banking in your country. Not a good sign if 2% have 87% control.

A North of the Rio American, and a Hemispheric American, not US subject.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:38 | 5353244 Majestic12
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"I'm American."

kchrisc = "dolt" says the dictionary.

"your government" is hand-picked, funded and shoe-horned into place by rigged elections and passing laws favorable to the operator 11 Monopoly Conglomerate Corporations that run the world...

But you receive Koch Bros paychecks to "DEFLECT" attention away from the 11 Monopoly Conglomerate Corporations that run the world....don't you???

You are a Koch Bros-licking ERRAND BOY trying desperately to RE-FOCUS attention away from the 11 Monopoly Conglomerate Corporations that run the world....aren't you?!?

"Your government" = muppets for the 11 Monopoly Conglomerate Corporations that run the world....period.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:00 | 5353293 Karaio
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@ Kchrisc: 

I thought you an honest guy. 

:-)

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:19 | 5353331 Alternative
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As soon as you fart in our general direction we have billions printed that we can spend at moment's notice. Drones and what not.

In general, we don't listen to anybody because anybody should listen to us.

 

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:50 | 5353414 divedivedive
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I'm a US citizen living in Mexico.

I start each day watching as much Fox News as I can stomach and then switching over to local news (pretty much upbeat). How can the US feel proud that the current pool of presidential candidates includes l the wife of a former president, the third person in the same family (bushes)... Why aren't more qualified (business oriented) people in the hunt ? 

 

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 10:26 | 5354906 plane jain
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Don't know, but my spouse was pointing out how many female politicos TV dramas we have now. I figure Hillary is the chosen one.

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 13:28 | 5355622 JB
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All candidates are a) related, and b) are members of the same criminal family that had been in power since 1963. We no longer live in a republic. Democracy is a joke. We live in an empire, and it's the most evil empire in all human existence.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 19:45 | 5353553 zjxn06
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"I like to know if and where Brazil is missing in its foreign policy, it is very important to me. "

Get off your high horse Karalo. Brazil is just another corrupt 3rd world country.

Correction: Another corrupt 3rd  world country with oil.

"Brazil’s Rousseff Admits There Was Wrongdoing at Petrobras

Brazil’s President Recognizes Alleged Embezzlement For First Time"

http://online.wsj.com/articles/brazils-rousseff-admits-wrongdoing-at-pet...

Mon, 10/20/2014 - 01:33 | 5354239 Karaio
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@ Zjxn06: 

You think I do not know the quality of politicians in my country? 

Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk! 

At least they do not kill innocent people, they steal as any politician steals but has a bias to leave some for the poor. 

Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk. 

Teach the poor to fish, not give alms as their government does. 

Let's talk about who is Paiz third world when you are unfortunately tezerado by someone of his government. 

Perhaps when you and your holy Monsanto fuck your liver and you are looking to treat Obamacare. 

Old man, you're in the third world with weapons, I'm in the third world with abundant food and water. 

You are a fucked up, not me. 

No hard feelings. 

Of good. 

:-)

*não tenho medo de você, imbecil! É só mais um Troll que eu chuto na bunda!

hehe.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:07 | 5353155 Baldrick
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todays zh brought to you by: prudential, barrons trade monster, synchrony bank, charles schwab, merril lynch, richard bernstein, hock intl., vanguard, microsoft, fidelity, guggenheim, and select spector SPDRs. :)

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:07 | 5353157 grunk
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Throw Barbra Streisand into a volcano.

If it doesn't please the rain gods, then try Nancy Pelosi.

If that doesn't work, try Barbara Boxer.

If that doesn't work, try  Diane Fenstein.

If that doesn't work, at least you tried.

Rain gods can be a fickle bunch.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:31 | 5353229 Peter Pan
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A few years ago I visited a friend's farm. It was bone dry and there wasn't a cloud in the sky. Before we left I got out f the car and told my friend it was time for prayer and a rain dance. He reminded there were no clouds to begin with. I nevertheless did my rain dance and prayed which lasted about twenty seonds. We got back in the car and within 30 seonds we were back on the main highway. Within another thirty seonds raindrops started to fall on the car window. This lasted for about a minute. We looked up and there were still no clouds. We were both spooked by this and I am wondering if there is a scientific explanation or whether the big man upstirs was reminding us that miracles still abound.

In any case I pray that California will begin to receive much gentle rain within the next thirty seconds.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:54 | 5353433 tip e. canoe
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better yet, fire up a cloudbuster
http://www.orgonelab.org/sobuildaclb.htm

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:04 | 5353302 Karaio
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@ GRUNK: 

If put Nuland, Mrs. Clinton, and others would be more interesting? 

:-)

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:09 | 5353168 flyingcaveman
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I'll be worried when I can walk across the Sacramento River.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:13 | 5353180 tahoebumsmith
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Here is another sad situation which makes this terribly sad situation horrific... Now that the water table is down some 40' in areas of the Central valley, all that will be left for the farmers that can afford wells is fracking waste...

http://rt.com/usa/194620-california-aquifers-fracking-contamination/

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:15 | 5353188 alexcojones
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Chemtrails and HAARP will dry out the sky

Lived there for  a dozen years and saw chems almost every day

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:22 | 5353205 Herodotus
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Why not load all the sheep into a truck and take them to some place like Michigan?  There is all kind of vacant pasture land that you could rent for next to nothing.  No irrigation is needed.  Most of the land just sits there with no crops or animals on it.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 19:29 | 5353521 arby63
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But it snows! And no beach! No mountains! No tans! 

Ah yes, but it is real. Unlike California. 

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:22 | 5353207 himaroid
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Y'all plague us with all those elected bitches from cali. 

Karma is a bitch too.

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 18:18 | 5353328 cifo
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Detroit bitchez!

Sun, 10/19/2014 - 17:24 | 5353213 fiftybagger
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19 And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron, and your earth as brass: 20 And your strength shall be spent in vain: for your land shall not yield her increase, neither shall the trees of the land yield their fruits.

Leviticus 26 King James Bible

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