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Top Scientist Warns This Version Of Ebola Looks Like "A Very Different Bug"
Submitted by Michael Snyder via The Economic Collapse blog,
Barack Obama and the head of the CDC need to quit saying that we know exactly how Ebola spreads. Because the truth is that there is much about this virus that we simply do not know. For example, a top Ebola scientist that is working in the heart of the outbreak in Liberia says that this version of Ebola looks like it could be "a very different bug" from past versions. Other leading scientists are echoing his concerns. And yet Barack Obama and Thomas Frieden continue to publicly proclaim that we know precisely how this virus behaves. Not only is that bad science, but it could also potentially result in the unnecessary deaths of a very large number of people. For example, Obama has refused to implement an Ebola travel ban because he is greatly underestimating the seriousness of this virus. This decision could turn out to be incredibly costly. If what you will read about below is true, we could be dealing with some sort of "super Ebola" that nobody has ever seen before.
Peter Jahrling of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease is on the front lines fighting this disease in Liberia. He is one of the top authorities in the world on Ebola, and what his team has been seeing under the microscope is incredibly sobering...
Now U.S. scientist Peter Jahrling of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease believes the current Ebola outbreak may be caused by an infection that spreads more easily than it did before.
Dr Jahrling explained that his team, who are working in the epicentre of the crisis in the Liberian capital of Monrovia, are seeing that the viral loads in Ebola patients are much higher than they are used to seeing.
He told Vox.com: 'We are using tests now that weren't using in the past, but there seems to be a belief that the virus load is higher in these patients [today] than what we have seen before. If true, that's a very different bug.
'I have a field team in Monrovia. They are running [tests]. They are telling me that viral loads are coming up very quickly and really high, higher than they are used to seeing.
'It may be that the virus burns hotter and quicker.'
Other top scientists are making similar observations.
The following comes from a recent article posted on Washington's Blog...
The head of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota – Dr. Michael Osterholm – is a prominent public health scientist and a nationally recognized biosecurity expert.
Dr. Osterholm just gave a talk shown on C-Span explaining that a top Ebola virologist – the Head of Special Pathogens at Canada’s health agency, Gary Kobinger – has found that the current strain of Ebola appears to be much worse than any strain seen before … and that the current virus may be more likely to spread through aerosols than strains which scientists have previously encountered.
I have posted video of that talk on C-Span below...
But even if we were dealing with the exact same strain of Ebola, that does not mean that our leaders are telling us the truth when they say that it is not an airborne virus.
Just check out the following quotes from top scientists about the spread of Ebola from a recent Los Angeles Times article…
Dr. C.J. Peters, who battled a 1989 outbreak of the virus among research monkeys housed in Virginia and who later led the CDC’s most far-reaching study of Ebola’s transmissibility in humans, said he would not rule out the possibility that it spreads through the air in tight quarters.
“We just don’t have the data to exclude it,” said Peters, who continues to research viral diseases at the University of Texas in Galveston.
Dr. Philip K. Russell, a virologist who oversaw Ebola research while heading the U.S. Army’s Medical Research and Development Command, and who later led the government’s massive stockpiling of smallpox vaccine after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, also said much was still to be learned. “Being dogmatic is, I think, ill-advised, because there are too many unknowns here.“
And I have written about this before, but so many people don't know about this that it bears repeating. The following is an excerpt from a news story about a study that was conducted back in 2012 that demonstrated that the Ebola virus can be transferred from one animal to another animal without any physical contact whatsoever...
When news broke that the Ebola virus had resurfaced in Uganda, investigators in Canada were making headlines of their own with research indicating the deadly virus may spread between species, through the air.
The team, comprised of researchers from the National Centre for Foreign Animal Disease, the University of Manitoba, and the Public Health Agency of Canada, observed transmission of Ebola from pigs to monkeys. They first inoculated a number of piglets with the Zaire strain of the Ebola virus. Ebola-Zaire is the deadliest strain, with mortality rates up to 90 percent. The piglets were then placed in a room with four cynomolgus macaques, a species of monkey commonly used in laboratories. The animals were separated by wire cages to prevent direct contact between the species.
Within a few days, the inoculated piglets showed clinical signs of infection indicative of Ebola infection. In pigs, Ebola generally causes respiratory illness and increased temperature. Nine days after infection, all piglets appeared to have recovered from the disease.
Within eight days of exposure, two of the four monkeys showed signs of Ebola infection. Four days later, the remaining two monkeys were sick too. It is possible that the first two monkeys infected the other two, but transmission between non-human primates has never before been observed in a lab setting.
So when Barack Obama and Thomas Frieden get up and tell us that they know with 100% certainty that Ebola is not airborne, they are lying to you.
There is so much about this outbreak that we simply do not know.
Our public officials should be honest about that.
Instead, it seems like they are flying by the seats of their pants and just saying whatever they think will keep everyone calm.
We are potentially facing the greatest health crisis of this generation, and bad science and false assurances are not going to help anyone.
Sadly, Barack Obama just continues to make bad decision after bad decision. This includes his very foolish decision to send thousands of U.S. troops right into the heart of the Ebola death zone.
It is being reported that these troops are only going to get just four hours of Ebola training, and the Pentagon is saying that they "will only need gloves and masks" to protect themselves...
Troops from the 101st Airborne Division leading the military response to Ebola in West Africa will only need gloves and masks to protect themselves from the deadly virus, so said Gen. David Rodriguez at a Pentagon briefing Wednesday.
“They don’t need the whole suit – as such – because they’re not going to be in contact with any of the people,” the commander of U.S. troops in Africa said.
Soldiers from the 101st Airborne will primarily be building hospitals, ultimately leading what could be a contingent of 4,000 American service members. They’ll be housed either in tent cities at military airfields or in Liberian Ministry of Defense facilities, Rodriguez said.
Soldiers’ health will be monitored through surveys and taking their temperature on their way in and out of camps. If a service member does get sick, Rodriguez said they will be flown home immediately for treatment.
Who is going to be held accountable when these young men and women start coming home sick?
So far the federal response to this Ebola crisis has been a parade of incompetence.
And yet we continue to be told that "everything is under control".
I don't know about you, but I have a bad feeling about all of this.
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These poor GIs should have seen it coming. I would say the Commander in Thief should have led the charge with his mask and gloves.
It's all the Hope and Change built into it.
Don't worry Obama's administration has it contained, but they're working on it.
The fact that there have been no further infections in the last five days leads me to think that this bug becomes extremely dangerous in the last 36 hours or so of the host’s life. The fact that none of Duncan’s associates, to include his girlfriend, contracted Ebola while he was with them causes me to suspect that the victim is not shedding a great deal of the virus when he becomes ill even to the point of throwing up.
Since care givers seem to be most at risk, I’m beginning to think that the virus is shared with family members in the victim’s last hours of life as they are being cared for by loved ones.
Your theory only works onthe 21 day cycle, actually it is 42 days even according to the WHO. So we should all becareful about the ALL CLEAR< Mission Accomplished stuff. But the good thing is this may get the dems through this election cycle, see ho politics works now.
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/ebola/14-october-2014/en/
http://www.naturalnews.com/047267_Ebola_outbreak_incubation_period_viral...
I concur with your thinking that if there is a 41 day incubation period, then we are not in the clear. This bug is still mutating. With our open border policy we can expect one or two infected to hit our shores each month until this thing morphs into something we all get.
The length of incubation could have to do with the level of initial infection (high v. low dose of virus) and the host's immune response (robust v. lackluster). Short incubations would be from high-dose infections and weak immune responses, and long incubations would be from low-dose infections with robust immune responses.
My theory is that caregivers are getting "Ebola" because they are the ones getting the "experimental" version of the "vaccine". This is a weaponized version that is so frankensteined that it evolves and mutates rapidly due to the fragmented DNA used to crate this monster. It appears that this virus quickly mutates into something not as contagious as hoped for. Hence the repeated new epicenters of ground zero with new strains all over. Hence the repeated non-compliance to try to get it to spread. The Who and CDC have been thrown out of Africa because everywhere they go and "vaccinate" , new people get sick.
Their plan is just not working. They were trying to get a sufficient pandemic started to scare the shit out of us and collapse the economy and blame it on Ebola. Then force everyone to get a vaccination that would sensitize the population to the next wave of aerosolized shit to be released later.
None of it is working as planned.
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No worries! The new Eboly czar says that overpopulation is the problem. Sounds like they figured out a solution:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KRdpi0Ww2-8
Here are the possibilities.
1. Ebola 2014 is a naturally occurring disease that is simply doing what viruses do best- replicating itself in host organisms, and had reached human populations via a combination of human encroachment on natural Ebola reserves and modern air travel.
2. Ebola 2014 is a bioweapon intentionally loosed on the world poulace for the purposes of global population reduction and OWG control.
3. Ebola 2014 is a bioweapon intentionally loosed on West Africa as an excuse to send in armed forces to secure West African raw materials- gold, diamonds and oil, but it spread beyond WA unintentionally
4. Ebola 2014 is a bioweapon that was accidentally released, and now spreads uncontrollably.
5. Ebola 2014 is a hoax.
6. Ebola is spread only via Red Cross vaccinations used as population control and to achieve objectives in item#3, but otherwise is a hoax.
Which is Occam's Razor?
1. Not OR, because Ebola before 2014 was never in West Africa. How did it get there, thousands of kilometers away from known Ebola reservoirs? Why is Ebola 2014 a much different virus, one that seems more contagious, with possible airborne capabilities, and one with more ability to mutate? All past ebola outbreaks were violent and short lived. Something is very different this time.
2. Not OR, because it is not in the interest of the Global Elite to kill its host (humankind) indiscriminately. The Global Elite will do better to control the masses, rather than kill them.
3. Possible OR, given that Ebola has been studied intenively and that bioweapons research stations are at epicenter of WA outbreak. Motive exists, Means exists and Opportunity exists.
4. Possible OR, and is the most simple answer. However, the gains by global elite over WA resources seems too coincidental for pure accident.
5. Not OR- but the elements of hoax, and past hoaxes mitigate against OR, since very spohisticated and complicated hoaxes have been proven in the past- Boston Bombing and Sandy Hook, ISIS beheadings, as well as False Flags with significant hoax elements, such as 911. So a hoax cannot be ruled out, given past experience and the gains that could be realized by such a hoax. Time will tell.
6. Possible OR, since a controlled sickness blends elements of hoax and flase flag with the realization of gains in resource control as well as population control, bythe gloabl elite.
You might get some more traction with some of your theories if you drop the Hoax part. People are dying and that fact is for sure. How when or why might be up to debate (insert conspiracy theory here). My momma used to say, believe only half of what you see and none of what you hear and you will be pretty close to the truth.
Given the sheer amount of ROM ( revelation of the method ) and PP ( predictive programming ) that's out there regarding Ebola, pandemics , zombies etc...I don't find this current "outbreak" a coincidence. Several theories floating around. The one theory I do not buy in any shape, form or way is that this is just a spontaneous event "out of the blue" from some guy eating bats. Hogwash.
The USA had a bio-lab in the city where this outbreak started. Ground zero. Coincidence ? I think not. We will probably never know the truth but things are not as they seem.
Some theories.
1. The USA has been trying to end the diamond strikes in West Africa. They want to pivot to Asia and Africa. This allows them to do so. With troops on the ground. (silent invasion)
2. Bioweapon against the USA from ??
3. Big pharma release to bolster profits of vaccines.
5. Depopulation agenda move.
5. All the above at same time to maximize effect, damage and profit for the MIC, big pharma and for the depopulation crew. Also the NWO's latest move to get closer to world domination.
6. Distraction from the ongoing Zionist war against Palestinians and WW3 with Russia. Distraction from the USA (read zionists) attempts to overthrow the 7 countries they planned after 9/11. ( the video is on you tube of them admitting this plan)
Allis not what it seems...
#3 seems likely. If we were really concerned about building hospitals in the ebola zone we could print up a billion dollars and mail it there. I'm sure we could find some construction workers in WA who could put up a hospital all by themselves.
We could also send Klain, Freiden and a few others to over-see the project.
flat out it's #1 with animals spreading it, there's no evidence to even begin to entertain the rest. none.
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Awesome blog. You've completely missed the Leo Wanta angle, however, rendering your entire analysis utterly irrelevant.
This dude may be right.
But I get the feeling that someone is pissing down my back and telling me it's raining.
I played oligarch the other day. I pee'd on an ant hill while proclaiming it was raining. They didn't look too happy either.
Barack is a genious. Of some sort.
Pay close attention: Ebola is a man-made weaponized disease that is started through vaccination. If you look at ALL the research and papers discussing transmittability, you will see the SAME common thread; the intital laboratory animals were injected with the stuff, and an incubation period was required before the disease became transmittable through fluids and aerosol (at least the early experiments). Iately, the more virulent version has the ability to be completely aersolized quite easily (but it seems to have a short lifespan).
"Secret Project Created Weaponized Ebola in South Africa in the 1980s"http://www.oldthinkernews.com/2014/10/19/secret-project-created-weaponiz...
Links AND video are included that start to explain the story.
The stuff needs a human host in order to incubate. Bill and Melinda gates and their sponsored bioweapons labs in Western Africa are 'do-gooding' the people with MASS VACCINATIONS. Sometimes, there are agents within these...
YES, THIS VERSION IS A "VERY DIFFERENT BUG".
When (not IF, but WHEN) the 'government' reccomends, cajoles, or otherwise persuades you that taking an 'EBOLA vaccine' is in your best interest, you'd better be prepared to shoot first and ask questions later. DO NOT LET THEM GIVE YOU ANYTHING. This is NOT a JOKE, or a 'CONSPIRACY THEORY'. The EVIDENCE is out there if you are willing to do the research.
MY GOD, LOOK at what they are doing and saying! 'CLIPBOARD MAN' is one point, and appointing a POLITICIAN as the 'TZAR' of EBOLA is one, and OBAMA's FAILURE TO CLOSE THE FUCKING BORDERS FOR HIS ENTIRE TERM is one, and the list goes on. CDC PATENTS? REALLY? YES...
Mr Scott, check out Australian vaccines CSL involvement with the Gates foundation on Ebola:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/news/csl-answers-bill-gates-appeal-on-ebola-treatment/story-e6frg906-1227093446160
CSL are the same folk behind the cervical cancer vaccine Gardasil that are being forced upon young women around the world.
Just do a search for Gardasil paralysis and weep.
YES.
Governor of texas, Rick Perry (who secretly was pushing for completion of the NAFTA SUPERHIGHWAY until certain news outlets outed the plan for the AMERO and the N.A.U.) is also KNOWN for trying to MANDATE that ALL girls in the State of TEXAS be 'vaccinated' for cervical cancer using GARDASIL (by the age of 13, via codification of the public education 'laws' that require 'vaccinations' to attend 'compulsory' public SCHOOLING).
This is NOT a new issue, and I did research back THEN, and it was STOPPED. The people in Texas don't like this fucker, but he keeps getting 're-selected' because they are left with a GREATER of two evils to 'vote for' (and are culled into thinking that a 'third-party candidate' doesn't 'have a chance', and voting for NEITHER would be 'throwing away your vote').
It broke my heart to see the girls that were permanently paralyzed (and some that even DIED after suffering for several months).
I think that the acronym is 'GSK', or 'Glaxo-Smith-Kline' in the United States (or rather, the CONUS), that was the laboratory that developed this shit. I may be mistaken, though. It's been several years ago now.
I see in the link that their stock is up and stable. MOTHERFUCKERS.
You can't own weapons down there now, I understand.
HERE, they are trying to prosecute 7-year-olds for chewing their Poptart snacks into 'the shape of a gun' in 'public school' (SERIOUSLY).
Thank you for your link, sir. You have honored both me and the general ZH community.
CSL developed the vaccine. GSK and Merck pay them royalties to market it.
They are now advocating that boys be vaccinated as well.
Criminals. The lot of them.
You want to have a virus with a long incubation time so that it has enough time to spread before discovered. It has to have an high kill rate and you want it to be airborne so that it can rapidly spread itself. You still have a problem with the mutation issue because you simply don’t know how that is going to play out when the bio weapon is actually applied.
Than of course you want to do your experiments so that you can improve your deadly bio weapon. The best tests would be on humans so that you can observe the way it mutates in that environment because that is your goal to find out.
There seems to be a problem with current Ebola string because although it has a 21 incubation day period it seems that the virus only spreads itself efficiently as soon as the symptoms show thus after that 21 day incubation period. But in the symptom stage the virus is able to get airborne and stay alive for a period of time also on surfaces.
The kill rate of 50%-60% of this Ebola virus doesn’t seem to be very high if you’re an impatient person but you still are able to wipe out half the population. But like said you don’t know how it’s going to mutate.
So you have to check back on the people you infected to find that out and make some adjustments on the new string to feed it back into the loop to make it even more deadly. Maybe by lengthening it’s incubation time or by highering up it’s kill rate to make it ‘hotter’.
So if this is correct “The strain originated in US government bio warfare labs and was injected into humans in Department of Defense field trials that began just weeks prior to the Ebola breakout.” this is exactly what is keeping them busy right now.
But they don’t only have to rely on the Ebola virus. Many strange sudden 'rare' virus outbreaks have happened just recently: http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=257349.msg1488478#msg1488478
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Good news is that my hospital has now written much stricter protective gear guidelines than CDC put out (finally). Turns out they had a little scare, ooops, I mean a "test", recently. Everytime I tried to look into where that was documented in local news, my hospital computer stopped working. I do appreciate that the brightest medical minds of premier institutions in this city have gotten together to make a plan, and a good one, and to look beyond our lying government to do the best to take care of patients and protect healthcare workers. Nothing, not even laboratory samples, will leave the suspected patient or actual patient's room. That ought to make Miffed happy. Our lab will NOT accept specimens. (Testing will be done at bedside.) Our workers will get respirators, and "spotters". And advice from Emory and a nurse returned from frontlines of Liberia.
I printed out all the guidelines and will study them very carefully. I won't be frontlines, but I will have an understanding. God bless us and protect us.
What are the "spotters" you're talking about?
CLIPBOARD GUYS?!? /Sarc.
Clipboard guys exactly, overflow-admin! Similar procedure in Africa to make sure the dressing and undressing is done properly, with a checklist and a specific order. We use a similar, but not as extensive, checklist process and a full-length mirror to make sure we are properly dressed to go into our cleanroom. But it is not life and death for us. I don't mind your sarcasm, either!
This version does look like a different bug.
It's got a big ass nose you can fill with rolls of quarters and looks like curious George.
This new strain is called Obama and it will fucking make your country bleed out of it's ass until it wishes it had a gun to shoot itself in the fuckin head. All vital functioning parts of the government start failing and hemorrhaging all over the god damn place leaving you disgraced and shunned by the world.
So they think Ebola may be airborne? ...... Another for the "No Shit Sherlock" file. It was sure spreading like it was airborne to people wearing masks instead of respirators. So Duh.
> 450 cases were trained doctors and nurses operating under previous Ebola protocols that clearly no longer work. And now we get third-worlders like, Obama: "The only safe place from Ebola is on a crowded bus."
I am so affraid that Dear Leader will draw a red line next. This virus will then know who it pissed off.
My wife (who works in a hospital) and I are very relieved about developments in the past week. It doesn't mean we are out of the woods. There could be an outbreak within the next year, and West Africa could deteriorate to collapse. Still, I thought the current situation in the developed world would be worse by now. Nothing wrong with good news, people!
Got a will? Because you need a will.
No BS, just cut straight to the chase. I like you. +1.
"Good news" ...? I think you may be too quick to judge. Exponential spreading is still really slow with this virus.
One begets another two in 3+ weeks.
Two beget another four in the next 3+ weeks.
Four beget another eight in the next 3+ weeks - and so on.
Time will tell - don't be in a rush to judge. If by New Year's the US has over 20 cases, and by start of April the US has over 300 cases... Watch the fuck out!
@Apply Force, you make good points. However, 2 weeks ago my wife's hospital was no better prepared to deal with Ebola than Texas Presbyterian, and since then they have ramped up Hazmat and PPE training BIG TIME. All receptionists and nurses are asking questions about travel to West Africa. A response team from outside the city has been assigned to respond if an Ebola case is diagnosed. I don't credit Obama, CDC, WHO, or NIH, but coordinators within the hospitals have definitely GOTTEN OFF THEIR ASSES.
Also, we expected 10 cases by today JUST IN DALLAS. The information I'm getting from inside the medical community is that it hasn't happened. Like I said before, we are not out of the woods, and yes I do have a will....but I don't mind some good news.
We are "useless eaters" now, get it? WE ARE EXPENDABLE! This is a perfect way to get rid of a few billion "useless eaters." TPTB want it in this country. I see no other explanation for their lack of any useful response.
When you have a trillion copies of a fast-evolving virus in you you have multi-million different nucleotide sequences, different versions of the virus. Most of the differences don't matter, but if just one or two show some useful difference then the game is changed. Just as the flu is slightly different every year, no doubt so is ebola, except it might be different every week. It just whiles away the time doing that for forty years until BAM! it hits a specially good one, and then there you go.
This pap about whether it is airborne or aerosol born is a particularly noxious pile of crap. Who cares? In practice it makes small difference to anyone within ten feet. Certainly even a non-symptomatic carrier could sneeze and hit twenty people, and leave deposits on the furniture for twenty more.
For me it still is not crystal clear yet if a non-symptomatic carrier sneeze is able to spread the virus effectively? If so it would be the perfect bug except maybe for a it's killrate. A 75% kill rate would be nice. But the experts say the Ebola string is getting 'hotter' so future statistice could point to an higher kill rate.We'll see.
President Goebbels is to the truth as ebola is to the human body; neither works out very well.
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For crying out loud, would everybody just hurry and die so the financial elites can have the world to themselves.
More bullshit from someonewho should know better.
Wow. Sounds like:
1. The ice caps are melting!!!
2. The Grizzly bears are dying
3. The owls are disappearing!
4. We're causing earthquakes!
Oops. Gravy train derailed.
I believe the USA should do a lot more to stop the spread of ebola in Africa, eg spray lots of VX over all urban areas.
I thought this was how you contain that shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO2-YxWkRxk
Fuck the scientists. Fuck them. Money can buy them all.
Weaponized and airborne. There is a plan and you
don't get to know what it is.
Bitter apricot seeds kill all pathogens, including cancer.
Maintain a ph at around 8 and no virus stands a chance.
Don't be afraid of this shit.
If your plasma / ecf pH is around 8, trust me - worrying about Ebola infection is the very least of your immediate problems!. Anything much over 7.6 and you are in really deep s**t! http://jasn.asnjournals.org/content/11/2/369.full
Obola says not to panic, everything is under control.
Flounder , the Ebola czar will manage any outbreak.
The reason the government can say its not airborne is that they have narrowed the definition of airborne to require that the virus be dry. From the WHO website:
"Ebola virus disease is not an airborne infection. Airborne spread among humans implies inhalation of an infectious dose of virus from a suspended cloud of small dried droplets."
Ebola is usually in a wet form when released from the body, whether in droplet or aerosol form. To the common person's understanding of airborne, that it you can get it through the air without touching someone, Ebola is airborne.
We can take charge of our own health no matter what the "bug" is!!! Take control of your OWN health by boosting your immune system to help it to fight pathogens and keep you healthy. How? Stay rested, drink clean water, wash your hands, take a vitamin C supplement and drink a powerful anti-viral wellness tea on the daily! (Here's one http://www.soulvibrance.com/herbal-tea-blends/antiviral-wellness).
FUD Liars and thieves. Bullshit.
The comments of Obama and his royal court doctors pertain to historical strains of Ebola. This is a new strain called "Guinea Ebola."
The game is to prevent political embarassment and to rely on old information to give assurances.
BTW, did you know that the new czar does not have a position above the CDC et al? He coordinates among the many agencies with no power to direct. The CDC trundles along on its current path.
Somebody should 'shop Oboloa's mug on to that pic of the virus under magnification.
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/national_news_2/article_101807.s...
check it out and feedback, eh.
http://www.havacuppahemlock1.blogspot.ca/2014/09/us-professor-says-ebola...
What sayith Z/H?
I say Louis Farakhan is a limber dick cock sucker!!!!!!!!!!! and fuck you!!
I find it interesting that the media and .gov/cdc ignore the most positive treatment for Ebola. Tekmira has a actual treatment that has had great success at several different levels but the FDA gets in their way, the media does not cover them, the CDC head disses their treatment on national TV with little or no knowledge of the drug or company and they try out drugs that were not even developed for Ebola like Chimerix's drug that did not help Duncan. It seems like only the favored companies like Mapp get any play when it should be an all hands on deck approach with the companies that actually have drugs designed for the Ebola virus.
A physician on the radio said GlaxoSmithKline was very close and would have 4 million doses of its stuff ready within 12 months.
http://www.gsk.com/en-gb/our-stories/health-for-all/our-contribution-to-the-fight-against-ebola/
Obama topped their politician contributions and they appear to have over half a billion dollars in contracts with the CDC:
http://influenceexplorer.com/organization/glaxosmithkline/bfe12136b1e042cbbec042cfcd33901c
Neither Obama nor Frieden are virologists.
Neither knows diddly squat about viruses,
1)There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know.while Ozone Obama is a perfect example Rumsfeld's Third Law:
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2)There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know.
. But . 3) there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know.
The new formaldehyde is industrial strenght also.
http://www.liberianobserver.com/security/breaking-formaldeyde-water-allegedly-causing-ebola-symptoms
Here is a particularly illuminating quote: “…it is becoming clear, to us at least, that the more work you do with the FA-Test [an antibody test for Ebola diagnosis] the more interesting, the more complicated and the more biologically sloppy the results become. I would urge very great caution in making any kind of final interpretation of what you have just heard [from other presenters]…I cannot explain how a Panamanian Indian can have antibodies to Ebola virus. I don’t think these are real antibodies. Of course if these are not, it means that any others in a given serum [blood sample from a patient] may not be as well. It is clear that we must have an alternative and a much more specific method with which we can answer these questions. Several facts suggest endemicity of Ebola in Zaire…I’m beginning to believe that the virus may in fact be endemic in Zaire.”
What do the last two sentences mean? They mean there is a significant chance that Ebola has been present in Zaire for a long, long time, and people have developed natural immunity to it, as they would to, say, measles or mumps.
Hardly the stuff of “outbreaks” and viral “hot zones” and recent “epidemics.”
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2014/10/20/ebola-staging-experts-atta...
There are five different families of -ssRNA viruses (including recently discovered Bas-Congo) that are known to induce haemorrhagic fever; have to use something like rt-pcr to tell them apart. This is what disturbs me when they announce a case is "not Ebola" without specifying alternative disease hypothesis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_transcription_polymerase_chain_rea...
http://www.fda.gov/downloads/MedicalDevices/Safety/EmergencySituations/U...
That Osterholm CIDRAP lecture is well worth watching.
The most sobering point was that Ebola has been around for 40 years, and in those forty years, sporadically, it has killed only 2400 people.
That does not offer a great deal of information to predict much.
This outbreak, in 6 months time has Something like 20,000 cases.
What he is telling us is that our prior information is based on sporadic outbreaks over forty years- probably most of them occurring before medical technology could even study them well.
We now have an outbreak that is massive and rapid, compared to the past forty years, and you would immediately have to ask yourself, WHY is it different? Assuming it is the same is just careless and dangerous.
Relying on falsified / massaged / cooked / agenda-skewed statistics is also careless and dangerous.
Didn't most of us here say that this bug was different, load faster virii counts, and had a new transmission vector?
Didn't most of us here say that months ago?
Unexpected, this news is.
Oh well. We don't deserve to live. Usually at the top of the food chain, we are in for one of those infrequent, temporary, but memorable episodes where we drop down the food chain.
I'm beginning to think more and more that this first round of Ebola is mostly a massive PR Stunt. Everybody that gets it is back to normal way too fast to believe it's actually Ebola, the real thing. I smell a fish. Even old Dr. Yellow teeth,the Original Ebola Man....hell, I've taken longer than that to recover from a hangover....and now he's Globetrotting, with huge fees attached I'm guessing, giving away amulets of blood. Next we'll be seeing a golden statue of the guy somewhere on public display.
Eeeeeeh???
Looks like exactly as described in The Hot Zone.
Ok Fbola it is...problem solved!
i'm curious...
does anyone have an estimate for how many ZHedgers hae been rendered paranoid schizophrenic from the seemingly endless promotion of michael snyder's phantasmagoria?
Schizophenia is a chemical imbalance, but mass delusions in general have to be indoctrinated from a very young age. School age.
That's why we have the Dept. of "Education" (indoctrination)!
If Obola was a true leader he would visit the troops in Liberia. It's not a combat zone, don't be a pussy Obola.
Well it actually is. Only the "opposition" is extremely well camouflaged, and completely single-minded in their determination "to get their Man (or Woman)".
It's going to be a riot watchint the ebola news after the elections. There'll be somewhere around 50% accuracy instead of the now common 5%. Ebola fear just peaked a little too early to help with the elections. Never mind, we still have ISIS. Haven't heard a fucking work about Baghdad falling in a week now. Surely Obola, the fear monger realizes it's time to print some of that propaganda this week.
You have to wonder why Obama has/is being so weak in dealing with what could be a gigantic catastrophe?? Is he really that igorant, stupid, negligent, lacking in any sort of care. I think that power has totally warped his brain.... he lives in some fantasy land.
If somebody has a gun to your head, you don't get to wait and see if it is loaded or not. A wrong choice is your last choice.....even if everybody tells you all the evidence that they can find is that the gun is not loaded......when you are responsible for 300 million lives...you don't play Russian roulette even if you think the odds are pretty low.
Gee, that's funny. The people held hostage surrounded by Mr. Duncan's left-behind mess after he finally checked into the hospital, after having lived in close quarters with him for days, have emerged uninfected despite caring for him for days without forced air and hazmat suits. Gee, maybe the CDC is actually telling the truth, that it's people who handle feces and other bodily fluids are the ones at risk, not those having "casual" contact.
Tell you what: the best place to catch any disease is the goddamned hospital. For all the ranting about Ebolas on a Plane, where did it spread? In a hospital, which cause 100K negligent infection deaths per year. Suppose that Braintree patient brought to Beth Israel Deaconess in Boston had actually been infected--Boston would be undergoing a terrifying outbreak right now. You're not going to get this from sitting next to an ambulatory Ebola patitent, you're going to catch it when a nearly lifeless "bag of virus" is allowed to fester itself to death in a place where vulnerable people come for help.
My daughter was born in Beth Israel Deaconess after my wife spend a month in the antepartum ward. If an Ebola patient had come in, I'd have had her transported to another hospital that day, and snuck her out if I didn't get cooperation.
Has anyone noticed how the CDC ebola "protocols" have been evolviing over the last 10 days or so?
I believe it was yesterday they finally decided there should be no skin exposed when working with ebola patients.
+1 for the best place to catch an infection is the hospital
Please note "airborne" is very different to "aerosol". An airborne virus will penetrate all but the finest (nanometre particle blocking) face masks, whereas an aerosol droplet containing viruses will be stopped by an ordinary mask. So when the CDC says it's not airborne they are correct, but there is growing evidence it's spread by aerosol droplets, from coughs or sneezes by the unfortunate sufferer.
Most infected health care workers are thought to have inadvertently trasnferred fluids from outside of their protective coverings when changing out of them. Many people rub their eyes subconciously - they're not even aware they did it - and after being half-boiled in the protective suit the urge to "scratch that itch" etc. is overwhelming.