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Stocks, Crude, or Bonds?

 

 

h/t Brad Wishak at NewEdge

 

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Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:40 | 5367070 dressguard
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Always S&P!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:49 | 5367114 Not My Real Name
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Who's right? That's a trick question. The correct answer is: the wife.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:52 | 5367124 McCormick No. 9
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Jut the other day, I had my wife down on her knees, begging...

"Come out from under that bed and fight like a man!"

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:57 | 5367143 Divided States ...
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If you consider MAKING MONEY most important, then the S&P 500 is right for the past 6 years. I am sure all the greedy filths like Ackman, Fink, Icahn, Tepper etc. will agree.

Of course I dont agree because I have been funding those bastards pockets so they can call themselves philantropists and donate to their local synagogues.

 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:41 | 5367327 rqb1
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Bill is not a bad guy.  He always is straight forward with his ideas to the public.  Not to say he is always right in his investments though.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 14:02 | 5368200 Pool Shark
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As always:   [queue John Barry's famous theme:]  "Bonds,... Treasury Bonds."

 

[same as it ever was...]

 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:50 | 5367116 spastic_colon
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yep....stocks will be "right" thru todays POMO and then mondays which is the last, then we get the perfect FED reports into month end in a very well choreographed pull all the stops out ramp into Nov. 4

 

o/t why is ZH not picking up all the voter fraud stories?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:56 | 5367625 roadhazard
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..."voter fraud stories".

 

What, your RNC/Koch links not good enough.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:50 | 5367117 rccalhoun
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whos right?    6 years of higher highs on the s/p?    not me

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:40 | 5367074 MeetTozter
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All Crud

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:41 | 5367078 gdiamond22
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Neither - The FED is right (like it or not)

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:45 | 5367105 101 years and c...
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lets see what happens once the fed stops (officially) printing next week.  one last gasp for the retarded bulls here.  

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:53 | 5367127 LawsofPhysics
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LMFAO!!!  That's like saying that the Fed and PDs are all going to indict themselves.  Please, this is not going to happen.  CDS are the new "collateral"...

fuck.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:09 | 5367195 SheepDog-One
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So they've moved past candy bar wrappers as collateral and now taking 'CDS' as collateral? Ok got it.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:17 | 5367481 tarsubil
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I'm pretty sure happy thoughts are collateral now.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:05 | 5367182 Not Goldman Sachs
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"Officially".  Unofficially it will not end.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:42 | 5367079 Irishcyclist
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DJIA has rocketted upwards again in the first 30 mins of today's trading.

Up 1.2%.

 

What a load of bollocks.

 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:29 | 5367259 madcows
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All i can think of is the south park "red rocket" scene.  Except that it's janet giving the jollies to the market, instead.

redrocket, redrocket redrocket!

Janet what the hell are you doing?

I'm beating off the market.

Janet, go to your room immediately!

Why?  redrocket, red rocket, red rocket.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:09 | 5367447 FuzzyDunlop21
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More of a green rocket but yea well put

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:41 | 5367080 thismarketisrigged
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took exactly one fucking minute from the open to wipe away all of yesterdays losses.

 

i am sure today there will be no selling and  the ''market'' will stay  between 150-200 dow pts all day, because this market has no manipulation.

 

 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:54 | 5367113 Divided States ...
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Yup...its gonna surge till European close than float on a cloud the rest of the day from 11 till 3 and maybe make a final surge in the last 30 minutes for good measure...then futures will tank afterhours and overnight to offload the futures the disgusting invisible hands had bought which ramped up the markets the previous morning....and then repeat everyday.

Somebody is taking a loss on these transactions over night...but i suspect its the Central banks' invisible filthy hands, however, i think they realize that the cost of NOT DOING this is MUCH BIGGER because if the markets crash...then the economy is gonna get fucked further.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:42 | 5367085 ekm1
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Energy market is the MOTHER of all markets

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:13 | 5367214 LawsofPhysics
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Yes, but energy itself is all that matters.  Some will have consumable calories, most will not.

Same as it ever was.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:43 | 5367092 Dr. Engali
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In a rigged market, none are right.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:46 | 5367104 IANAE
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...but some are moar 'right' than others.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:27 | 5367517 ATM
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They are all right. In world where money is created from nothing eveything is right.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:45 | 5367096 Dr. Richard Head
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I guess it will depend on today's volume...volume of BULLSHIT FINANCIAL MACHINATIONS!!!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:44 | 5367097 economessed
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It's not a market, it's a crime scene.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:45 | 5367099 madbraz
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Who's right:  the one controlling the joystick at the NY FED.  

 

Kevin<Bill<Larry<Robert (or if you prefer:  Henry<Dudley<Summers<Rubin)  O. works for the last 2.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:49 | 5367118 Latitude25
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Stocks up, bonds and gold dumped.  Looks like stealth QE to me.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:51 | 5367123 LawsofPhysics
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Irrelevant.  Again, there is no price discovery, period.  Some will have, most will have not, but in all cases the "official" word will be that everything is fine.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:52 | 5367125 Jason T
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SNAP!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:57 | 5367136 McCormick No. 9
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Which is right? Let's see...

Stocks... manipulated by direct central bank purchases, and by cheap liquidity (QE).

Oil...manipulated by secret deals between Evil and Eviler (US and SA, or vice versa), otherwise known as "Watch us shoot ourselves in the foot!"

Bonds...manipulated by massive Fed purchases.

I guess the answer is "yes"?

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 09:58 | 5367152 eishund
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Wrong question! It should be <WHO'S LEFT AFTER THIS WHOLE FARCE IS OVER?>

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:23 | 5367253 madcows
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who cares.  another 2 days like this and i'll have nailed the 10% drop and the 10% retrace.  Making money is as easy as waiting for a FED-tard to open their mouth.

Janet:  "We're ending QE" - investor, move into bonds while stock market tanks.

Bulltard: "We may reimplement QE4 soon"  - Investor move back in to stock market as bonds sink and stocks ramp.

I'm guessing next week that they trot Williams out there to talk it back down.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:26 | 5367272 LawsofPhysics
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correct, useless paper-pushing fund managers cannot make any money if there is no movement...

 

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:25 | 5367264 The worst trader
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Stocks of corpse!

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:35 | 5367306 Raoul_Luke
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I'll go with bonds - they're in the middle so the other two will likely converge.  And also because interest rates influence the prices of other investments.  But you gotta play stocks here.  I'm buying momentum names and selling covered calls.  The upside is limited so there's a good chance you'll collect the call premium (5% or better) and keep the stocks - also it provides some downside protection if the market goes south.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 10:52 | 5367362 Herdee
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Saudi's already rolling over.End of tapering already Built in?Hard to say.Still could see a big sell off.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:00 | 5367404 wrs1
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Now oil is catching up to stocks, looks like the election is close enough now to let oil back out of the box and stocks need to be green on the year when the voters arrive at their voting booths.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 11:25 | 5367506 Irishcyclist
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Eurozone bank stress tests results are due to be published next Sunday.

They're probably rigged too.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 12:12 | 5367684 CHX
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They are all wrong.

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 14:30 | 5368307 bid the soldier...
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BINGO.

 

The correct answer is 'matress'

Thu, 10/23/2014 - 13:28 | 5368044 EBT excepted
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dey ain' none 'em be right...but d'crude be-ins down, cou' lif d'conomy...den spike agin...she go down, she go up...but d'EBT keep a comin'...

 

needs d'cheap crude peepsez...

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