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NJ Governor Christie Folds, Un-Quarantines "Symptom-Free" Nurse After 24 Hours
In a sudden reversal, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Monday that the state will release the quarantined American nurse who had been confined in a hospital isolation tent upon arrival from West Africa despite showing no signs of Ebola. As USA Today reports, Kaci Hickox, 33, was the first person pulled aside at Newark Liberty International Airport on Friday under Christie's new strict mandatory quarantine-for-21-days rules. It appears, as Reuters reports, Christie got a tap on the shoulder as The White House has told states that have imposed mandatory quarantines for some travelers from Ebola-hit West Africa that the policy could impede the fight against the disease. Additionally, in true litigious American style, Hickox plans to sue.
Christie makes a strong statement last night...
The quarantined nurse is infuriated...
In a telephone interview with CNN, Hickox, a native Texan who now lives in Maine, said her confinement at University Hospital in Newark was "inhumane" and akin to being in prison. She said she has no symptoms and tested negative for Ebola.
"This is an extreme that is really unacceptable, and I feel like my basic human rights have been violated," Hickox who said on CNN's State of the Union.
24 hours after making the following statement: "I don't think when you're dealing with something as serious as this you can count on a voluntary system."This is the government's job." N
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Monday that the state will release the quarantined American nurse who had been confined in a hospital isolation tent upon arrival from West Africa despite showing no signs of Ebola.
As USA Today reports, Christie writes that Hickox "has thankfully been symptom free for the last 24 hrs. After being evaluated by CDC & her clinicians the patient is being discharged."
The move came only hours after Christie defended his state's strict new regulations for medical aids returning from Ebola-stricken West Africa.
The White House has told states that have imposed mandatory quarantines for some travelers from Ebola-hit West Africa that the policy could impede the fight against the disease.
The White House voiced its concern to the governors of New York and New Jersey about the potential impact of quarantine orders, a senior administration official said on Sunday.
"We have let the governors of New York, New Jersey, and other states know that we have concerns with the unintended consequences of policies not grounded in science may have on efforts to combat Ebola at its source in West Africa," the Obama administration official said in a statement.
Kaci Hickox, a nurse placed in 21-day quarantine in a New Jersey hospital after returning from treating Ebola patients in Sierra Leone, will contest her quarantine in court, her attorney said on Sunday, arguing the order violates her constitutional rights.
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We are sure they have it all under control - they have been preparing for months... and Ebola is so hard to catch.
The White House is working on new guidelines for such health care workers, according to a senior administration official.
The new guidelines are expected to be unveiled in the coming days, the official said. The official added that the administration is consulting with the states as they develop the new rules.
President Obama met Sunday with his Ebola response team, including "Ebola czar" Ron Klain and other public health and national security officials. According to the White House, the president said any measures concerning returning health care workers "should be crafted so as not to unnecessarily discourage those workers from serving."
Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and United Nations Ambassador Samantha Power said quarantines may discourage health workers from traveling to West Africa to help block the disease at its source.
"If you put everyone in one basket, even people who are clearly no threat, then we have the problem of the disincentive of people that we need," Fauci said on ABC's This Week. "Let's not forget the best way to stop this epidemic and protect America is to stop it in Africa, and you can really help stopping it in Africa if we have our people, our heroes, the health care workers, go there and help us to protect America."
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Your premise (Since that disease has never been a problem outside of the tropics, that means it needs a humid, tropical environment to survive) is flawed. The lack of previous outbreaks in Northern/Southern latitudes does not mean that Ebola won't or couldn't thrive in other environments. The main reason why Ebola hasn't traveled very far in the past is because it has previously been restricted to small isolated communities where it has burnt-out long before hitting major population centers. What we've got right now is the first experiment of its kind to see what Ebola does when it is established in a densely populated urban center proximate to international air-carrier hubs.
Right. It seems to be the perfect cover story for the Fed. Gov. to herd people just like the Germans did. Remember Anthrax was spread by either the gov. or a rogue gov. employee named Ivins. They exploited the hell out of that one.
Pods, should just health care workers get the mandantory quarantine or should any traveler from an endemic country? What about health care workers who are exposed in USA while caring for a patient here in a US Hospital? Should all of Bellevue be quarantined?Does working in a hospital now mean that at any unexected point in time, I could be quarantined? Not a happy thought, considering that my hospital is a designated treatment center!
Nice to go to work but you might not be coming home.....
On a funny note, a lady with a very thick African accent reached my internal hospital number (any outside caller is usually a misdialed number). After patiently and politely listening to the lady, it turns out that after a trip to our ER, she was given a number on a piece of paper to call for "charity care". Definitely not my department, but she had misdialed the last four numbers and I explained this to her. I told her what number she had reached so she could see that she had misdialed. Five minutes later she calls me back, telling me that I had given her this new number to call.....very very very hard to continue to remain professional at the "Charity Care Department"
Edit - replying to Rand
I'm pretty sure most think you are clueless as to what a 21-42 day incubation period means in terms of viral load and "testing negative." Do you have a clue what they are even testing for? What test is routinely used? Test accuracy? And why are so many medical personnel contracting this disease while obviously doing their best to avoid doing so?
You are a political hack, at best Rand.
Long stressful hours set people for catching disease. I had a relative nurse who refused to work in hospitals during flu season. Long hours and she always got sick.
Ok, so fuck the arbitrary 21 day rule. What do you recommend to ensure this woman doesn't contaminate others? The honor system?
You don't get it and neither do these lib assholes who put the individual rights of the vast minority ahead of the welfare and safety of many millions of people. Virology experts with emphasis in Ebola in full lockdown gear are contracting. You think this sue-happy nurse will take necessary precautions to contain her own disease? She's already demonstrating that her interests come first, before ours.
why don't you pay her a visit and personally support her? Tell her how unreasonable 'libertarians' are these days, and that YOU have her back lol
lib·er·tar·i·an
?lib?r?ter??n/
noun
1.
an adherent of libertarianism.
"libertarian philosophy"
2.
PHILOSOPHY
a person who believes in the doctrine of free will."
Funny, but I can't find scared little pussy who begs government to imprison people based on irrational fear, anywhere in the definition. Perhaps I'm looking at the wrong references?
It is not an irrational fear. It is a communicable disease. The government imprisons people all the time, against their free will.
The only argument you could have is that these rules were not explicit BEFORE she left. As for returning to this country, they already won't allow you in without qualifications, this is just one more.
pods
Why this disease? Why now?
This fear is irrational, completely irrational.
But what happens when the "Ebola tourists" aren't coming into the US once every few weeks, but a few every week, and then a few everyday, and then a few every hour? Think it can't happen? Its time for you to reality check the situation in West Africa (I've provided you a link). How will you logically contact trace all these people if we have mulitple Ebola tourists entering the country daily? What about when the serum runs out and the death rate of the infected rises back to 50-70%? Then is fear rational? Let me know when I should be scared OK Rex? Because clearly we are all unreasonable. Everything looks completely under control to my ignorant eyes. I must be irrational and fearful, not logical and observant.
https://www.internationalsos.com/ebola/index.cfm?content_id=438&language...
Statistical Modelling
Two recent papers from the United States Centers for Disease Control and Prevention2 and the World Health Organization3 have examined the outlook for this unprecedented Ebola outbreak as well as proposed methodologies to control it. Both conclude there will be a significant increase in case numbers before interventions start to take effect, especially in Liberia and Sierra Leone.
Two papers published in PLOS Current Outbreaks4,5 have attempted to quantify the potential for spread outside the three most affected nations (Guinea, Liberia, Sierra Leone). They did this by modelling population movement in West African nations based on cell phone use and international flights. The authors of the latter paper have continued to refine the model in line with the local and international spread of Ebola from West Africa. These new projections also consider the potential impact of reducing travel from affected countries.
Two authors have called into question the apparently-low case fatality rate in the current Ebola outbreak in West Africa. Published in The Lancet,6 they report that the current values do not take into account the interval between confirming a case and knowing whether the case died or survived. They conclude, "The widely cited 2014 CFR of around 50% is therefore likely to be a substantial underestimate of the true value, and so the number could apparently rise over the course of the outbreak."
Liberia & Sierra Leone
An exponential increase in cases likely. Cases are also significantly under-reported, and the true number of people infected is likely 2.5 times higher than reported numbers.** As of late September, cases were doubling in Liberia every 15 - 20 days and in Sierra Leone every 30 - 40 days. If significant interventions are not introduced, there could be 1.4 million cases in these two countries by January 2015.
Table 2: Ebola cases - current and possible in future2
REPORTED CASES x 2.5 UNDER-REPORTING FACTOR ** SEPT 30, 2014 8,000 21,000 JAN 20, 2015 550,000 1,400,000How many cases in the US?
Fear is making you stupid - and easily manipulated.
Same thing was said in Africa six months ago because people suck at exponential math and do not understand the implications. Dipshits like you were saying the exact same thing, verbatim.
Show me the exponential graph in the US.
You have nothing but your fear.
Sad.
Well pathetic, anyway.
How much do you get paid to troll the interwebs?
B. Hussein Obama's last two years, that's why. How many folks have predicted marshal law? Not me but, if ever there was a perfect cover story, this is it.
Rand, You should look up the definition of science, test protocols and timelines while you are at it.
Is your life centered merely around dictionary reference definitions?
You should get out more often and read more broadly instead of sitting around telling campfire stories to other statist bootlickers about 'imagined' libertarians and their horrible ethos is probably as close to the subject as you'll ever come
Says the scared little pussy who is trying to justify his cognitive dissonance.
Cognitive dissonance blah blah, ad hominem blah blah blah
Stop clogging our bandwidth, you stupid fuck
LTER is a great added flavor of this place. Too bland and nobody stays. Already this place needs a lot of salt. I would recommend the fonzannoon brand myself. Or maybe a dash of trav, and a sprinkling of francis sawyer, aka psycho. But don't ever, ever call it that, or it will kill you.
Maybe I am just getting old for this place?
pods
Why don't you ask the government to gag me since it's convenient to you?
Buddy, your presumption is that the mandatory ebola quarantine is used as a bullshit pretext for future round ups. I can appreciate that. All I'm saying is that in cases where people return from a fucking Ebola hotspot running a fever, it ain't right to throw caution to the wind and let them go clubbing or eating at restaurants.
If it makes you feel better, have them get a health pass overseas before they come home. problem solved.. no constitutionality to deal with. Put the onus on WHO
Heres' your word of the day Rand:
in·cu·ba·tion (nky-bshn, ng-)
n. The development of an infection from the time the pathogen entersthe body until signs or symptoms first appear.let them eat REX and co...do us all a favor and STFU. it is not hard to understand why people want to limit travel to/from the HOT ZONE. take your troll pay and go play
on an objective non political site like Huffing your HO
:-)
This kind of negligence is sickening. It's 21 days. She has witnessed people die from this disease and knows it's spreading. Fuck off and I kind of hope you get cancer bitch.
Regardless of what this girl is thinking and what motivates her it's worthy of note there doesn't seem to be any coordinated procedures at all.
If you're a medical pro and want to go help out that's fine. But...wouldn't it be smart to organize this...and record a medical base-line of these people before they go? Something that could be compared against when they come back? Why is it such a big surprise that they are coming back? And why are the regular screeners the ones that find these people? Or don't find them until after they've gone bowling?
Any volunteers, and those tasked with preventing spreading this thing, should know exactly how they are getting back before they even leave. With the "world's greatest healthcare system" it's also a little odd that the best place to monitor returning volunteers is a tent.
I was for the quarantine before I was against it.
Locked up in a Newark hospital means she never really left Africa
She will be dead from Ebola by Thanksgiving.
She'a way way too damn ugly to contract anything, let alone ebola...
The most "risky behaviors" here are all the first world citizens who are not doing anything to support the sick (which controls the rate of infection spread). If the numbers of sick in Africa reaches very high levels it will spill over everywhere. No border can be sealed completely enough to stop millions of people who believe they must leave right now. The nurse and the MSF docs by their service in Africa are very actively reducing the level of danger other American's face.
Correct, but putting a quarantinine in place for all the stupid fucks in NY/NJ and DC would sure as hell be a good start.
Boy did Christie screw her law suit up in a hurry!
She could have retired in the Hamptons after her tour of duty in West Africa. Maybe she should have gotten on the hotline with John Kerry for better advice.
This Fat Fuck NJ mayor may be good for something after all!
It's too bad that those afflicted with narcissism, psychopathy and sociopathy can't be quarantined. The District of Corruption would be just like that TV show - "Under The Dome"
It looks like that stupid bimbo Samantha Powers (the U.S. rep at the U.N.) is headed to West Africa on a fact finding mission or whatever. It's too bad we can't permanently quarantine her there. Makeing the world a better place one step at a time.
He's looking at you, Baffhouse.
Oh Lord, save us from the dirtbags, the beaurocrats and the sphincter muscles.
The HORROR is sitting to the left! Where they usual are!
Do I see nuts at the table?
I don't know if there are any nuts on the table, but there isn't a combined pair around the table.
Are they being served kibble in little fancy compote dishes? Shouldn't they get Fancy Feast?
That guy on the left with the peachy red tie, that thing sings to me that it wants to be an ebola strand waving at us.
Also, that readout in the upper right with times, it could be like a body count read out.
I love the charming little Ebola on the screen. He makes it all warm and fuzzy. He should be the admins. Ebola mascot, like they do for the Olympics. "See how cute he is? He's safe! And so are you. Just don't touch him (or breathe him, or lick him, or wipe your nose, mouth, ears, and eyes with him).
Poor kitty... er, mow.
Na, first we kill all the politicians, then all the lobbyists, then we line up all the lawyer and kill 9 out of every ten. They are a smart lot, those lawyers and get the message.
How many lawyers on Capitol hill ?
Nearly all of them.If Bill Shakespear worked it out 500 years ago, why can't we ?
Speaking of which, where's Flounder?
He needs to get into the thick of this, so we can see if inbreeding really is the answer.
First, we kill all the lawyers.
Obviously. This is the first step with any great plan.
It'll really be something when she develops symptoms and infects a couple others before being hospitalized.
She is cute.
You obviously need glasses...
you forgot to add in a Chelsea Clinton sort of way.
Woof!!!
Good girl!
Now, roll over and play dead.
Necrophilia, its whats for desert ?
used to be into necrophilia...
until this rotten cunt split on me. ;(
ba da dum
Did this woman actually go to Africa and treat Ebola patients?
Yes. She was working with Ebola patients just a few days ago:
"The health care worker who was quarantined at a New Jersey hospital because she had contact with Ebola patients in West Africa".
http://nj1015.com/christie-cuomo-say-theyll-order-ebola-quarantines-in-n...
Another one of those fucking suicidal altruists. Which is fine, unless she spreads the shit around in the US.
I wonder if she exchanged bodily fluids like the other healthcare workers that got Ebola? Since that is the only way you can get it.
They seem to go for the selfies and the sex tourism.
Go figure.
You've got that right. Their sense of reckless anomymous sex overrides and motivates them to put themselves at extreme risk and I have no doubts that they do it for non-altruistic reasons, though purportedly say they do.
The road to hell.....is paved with so-called goodwill gestures, disguising much more nefarious and sinister motives.
Their 15 minutes fame, has arrived. "They like me They like me they like me!!"!
Now wait for an actual Ebola patient to threaten to sue and get released.
Well, no to be an asshole, but I hope she comes down with Ebola now to drive the point home that a 21-day quarantine is neccessary.
I'm in the same (conflicted) boat - someone's words have to haunt us for the danger to be driven home.
I'm conflicted (but in a different way) - while I am "generally" against quarantines, and certainly against the way Governor Krispy-Kreme fucked up the NJ roll out so badly that it makes the CDC look competent...
I am against the federal government dictating to governors how to run the States even more.
To your point UR, I was surprised how Cuomo asserted that "while the federal govt. controls who may enter the country, the States control who may enter the states." That's quite a loaded statement there and I have yet to hear further retorts. Christie is buffoon with a capital B.
She should spit in Christies face. See if he self quarantines.
so much hate....
But 24 hours is enough, right - the government did its job, right? Their job is to stay in power, if I recall correctly. After seing the Dallas nurses on 60 Min last nite I feel bad saying this, but I hope she gets a real nice case of it. A more positive way to express that would be it should be agreed upon in advance that if you travel to these areas to work, you sign up for a controlled monitoring period on your return. No if, ands, or I'll sues.
If she does get Ebola, as many people as possible should sue her for endangering us all by fighting against the quarantine rules and knowingly exposing others.
"If you like your quarantine...".
In unrelated news, Hildog wants to create a new federal government "spending efficiency" agency to approve all private business/sector expenditures.
Forward Soviet!
I have a form here... Yes, she's free to go.
CorpGovMedia fears a States Rights movement more than anything. Local democracy has ALWAYS been the enemy of the rich and powerful.
There is really no democracy except at the local level. So obliterating state power over issues that really matter is key for CorpGovMedia
Christie almost certainly got a tap on the shoulder from one or more of "the powers that be"--plutocrats, corporations, lobbyist organizations, think tanks, political action committees, and or non-profit foundations etc.
(phone rings at the Governor's office)
Hello Governors Office, how may I direct your call?
I represent the Federal Government is the Governor available?
Yes, I'll transfer you, one moment please.
(call transferred to the Governor)
Governor Christie here, how may I assist you?
You don't know me but I know you, I'm from the NSA and I'm here to help.....
(Governor hangs up, calls DoH)
DoH How may we direct your call?
This is Governor Christie, release Barking Nurse NOW!
(Governor hang's up, changes shorts)
People need to think this out a bit more. This is similar to the terrorist situation. Some terrorist does an act of terrorism within the several states. The MSM and the feds refuse to call it terrorism, why? IMO, I think they want the people demanding to use that word and to do something about it (not considering how their rights may be effected, and what if that label is misused). This ebola shit reeks of the same game. The people will demand that their government confine them without due process of law.
Fuck her. If she comes from treating Africa where she has been exposed then she should be quarantined. I'ts obvious these retards have no common sense when it comes to what the should and should not do.
They should have just let her do it at home. Put a police duty on the house and this would have been a non-event.
But what if she snydermanned out the back door, causing illness and death?
Yes, If virus is not airborne.
And if you are a doctor and I believe you are then your ruling is in fact law.
The President is at a minimum a bigot and maximum first class psycho.
If these political classes are wrong on this and we have an actual outbreak you will see an actual revolt inside the USA. The assumption will be that every person of color is infected.
Obola is going to get you.
Send her on her own special way...and with our Prayers, that the Ironic Think won't happen, TO THE BIG MOUTH, SEIU SISTER.
1,500,000 cases of Ebola in Africa by January. There will be quarantines, border sealing, and lots of infected people fleeing chaos.
And with a 90% success rate in treating Ebola, guess where they'll all be headed?
They are already here. Since August.
Send her on her own special way...and with our Prayers, that the Ironic Think won't happen, TO THE BIG MOUTH, SEIU SISTER.
Litigations are more contagious than Ebola in the Americas. I mean honestly, when you have to sue for your constitutional rights, don't you understand that it's gone too far already and there is no way back?
Good luck with your health, when your current hospital system will have to deal with a real epidemic.
And good luck with your freedoms, when your current law system will have to deal with an epidemic of constitutional right contestants.
All weekend that nurse acted like someone who purposely contracted the disease to bring it to America so her cause could be highlighted, and who was pissed that the plan was being foiled. She made no sense at all when she spoke and contually said quarantines were not needed.
Smells ratty, as she used to work for the CDC.
Christie has ZERO chance to be elected President !!!.. The guy is a big time flip-flopper !!
He had minus zero before ,now with just ZERO his chances are improving ......
flip-flopper is the prerequisite for POTUS
As bad as it may be in Africa, the number of cases so far is miniscule as a percentage of the total population. Considering the poverty, lack of sanitation and clean water in some areas or so I read, that is something.
It appears no one who was in contact with the Ebola patients in the USA have been infected so far.
I think there were more murders on Friday in the USA than Ebola victims.
She has a point.
With all due respect, isn't the USA getting about one confirmed patient a week at the moment?
The outbreak has barely just begun. How many will arive when there are half a million Africas infected?
A shitload if obozo has his way. The dems would love America in terror up until next election time when they unveil the 'cure' lol
What are you talking about? Do you live in a cave? We already have ebola patients here and at least one of them is dead. And he gave it to others before he kicked off.
That is just what we know. There are doctors saying Ebola symptom patients are being whisked away out of hospitals by the CDC before theit test results are made public.
I am not going to let fear affect my thinkling. A few of the patients survived and are doing well.
It has been in the US for over a month.
They had this mass paranoia when aids first hit the scene in the eighties or thereabouts. At that time I said the high risk AIDs victims were drug users and those who practiced sodomy without protection.
It turns out a number of years ago the WHO finally relented and came to the same conclusion.
It is best just to see where this is going. If it was as bad as some people would have you believe, it would be going around like the flu or common cold, it hasn't.
Ebola is Plan B, if the markets get out of hand and are not able to bring them under control.
They have managed quite well with unseasonal weather, imagine what they can cover up with Ebola!
Ah yes, AIDS.
Remember back then, the learned exspurts telling us all that you would test positive within
three months if you contracted it ?
The same learned men who now say upto 10 years for incubation.
They received a serum from an Ebola survivor which is the most likely explanation for why we are seeing such a high survival rate. There are extremely limited quanities of serum available. If this thing gets beyond a few dozen cases, the mortality rate will rise back into the 50-70% band.
What you fail to understand is that this outbreak is "out of control" in Western Africa, and the number of infected is doubling roughly every 20 days. Within a matter of months, the number of "ebola tourists" will be rising exponentially as well. By pure unfortunate circumstance, someday we are not going to be able to contact trace all the victims like we are doing right now. If that happens, there will be no solutions that are politically palatable.
one thing is the deaths from ebola, but another is the casualties from the collapsed health care system, considering the amount of lethal diseases/infections ravaging africa, even when treated.
now the real question is, how many ebola cases are needed to collapse the US health care system?
....says cointelpro douchebag Alex Jones.
you are a dumb fuck.
I don't ever hear the term Home of the Brave again and your handle about being freaked out on Acid pretty much describes you.
So far we got one shoe-bomber and one underwear-bomber.
both dud....
Two quesions for you.
Do murders rise exponentially?
Do you understand exponential math?
If Ebola was an air borne disease exponental math may apply, but with airline passengers and so on being exposed to Ebola symtomatic victims and not being infected, I do not think Ebola fits the prerequisites for exponental calculus.
You are obviously new to the subject so I will elaborate a bit. Ebola has had a doubling rate of roughly twenty days for the last 2-3 months. This is irrespective of your opinion on whether or not its airborne, the arbitrary example you have given, and your supposition on symptomatic and asymptomatic transmission.
It absolutely meets the criteria of an exponential rate of contagion.
According to you, if you had 50 people with Ebola 3 months ago, after 20 days 50 x 50 would be 2,500 infected.
Another 20 days go by 5,000 infections
Another 20 days goes by and we have 10,000
Another 20 days goes by we have 20,000
Now there are some reports that the infections are decreasing, not increasing
https://www.internationalsos.com/ebola/index.cfm?content_id=432&
No, I said its doubling every twenty days.
So in an example, if there are 10,000 infected today, then one would expect 20,000 within 20 days, 40,000 within 40 days, 80,000 within 60 days etc. I am saying that this has been true for at least four doubling periods that I am aware of. Someone else on this site has been keeping a spreadsheet using (World Health Organization's #s I believe). They posted it, a smoothed average, and they properly cited the information.
I have not seen the update for about 10-15 days. I also know that several health organizations have said that in certain areas they are no longer able to keep an accurate count of the death toll. Im not sure if you are aware, but enough people are dieing in West Africa that there are necessarily mass graves, people are getting turned away from hospitals, and cause of death is not being confirmed because the healthcare systems are overwhelmed. Its a true humanitarian disaster. We know for sure that the number of infected is not being properly documented anymore and that the organizations keeping track admit and believe the real number of infected and the death toll are atleast 2-3x higher than the official numbers because of the realities/difficulties I described earlier.
The link you provided only gives information on the Democratic Republic of Congo. This area had a seperate outbreak not believed to be linked to the West African outbreak. I am not especially knowledgable about this outbreak and have little to add beyond what you linked.
From your link, I was able to find some additional information:
https://www.internationalsos.com/ebola/index.cfm?content_id=438&language...
Liberia & Sierra Leone
An exponential increase in cases likely. Cases are also significantly under-reported, and the true number of people infected is likely 2.5 times higher than reported numbers.** As of late September, cases were doubling in Liberia every 15 - 20 days and in Sierra Leone every 30 - 40 days. If significant interventions are not introduced, there could be 1.4 million cases in these two countries by January 2015.
Table 2: Ebola cases - current and possible in future2
REPORTED CASES x 2.5 UNDER-REPORTING FACTOR ** SEPT 30, 2014 8,000 21,000 JAN 20, 2015 550,000 1,400,000If the nurse doesn't convert positive for Ebola, Christie could look as being reasonable, middle of the road, etc. If she turns out positive for Ebola, it will be a "I told you so" moment for Christie. You see, it's all about politics, political correctness, or individual rights and nothing about what is the most basic /fundamental rule of treating or containing an outbreak, especially when you have no vaccine or definitive treatment: quarantine, quarantine, quarantine.
Having said that, IMHO, this Ebola thing is way overblown, and being used by the media and the politicians, and I hate to say it, even by some health care workers who want to be "heros". ( I know, a mean thing to say, and I am a physician to boot, but it makes sense only to commit oneself if all reasonable methods of control are first being employed, which they are not. Reminds me of the soldiers sent over the top in WW1 to face withering machine gun fire in a senseless frontal charge across no man's land.)
Anything to keep the public confused and cowering in fear.
The only problem I could see with quarantining a person is if that person is with other patients being treated for possible infection. Unless they isolate every patient, and healthcare works can only after "cleaning" up treat those patients, you could be infected while in quarantine.
Republicans will still vote for this limp wristed, well, Republican Turn-Coat.
Two days ago -
Chris Christie Previews 2016 Campaign: 'It's Time to Start Offending People'
"I don't care if I'm loved. I want to be respected."
I can never respect someone who is a politico lawyer hooked into wall street that lets themselves gain 150 pounds of fat.
Let the spread of Ebola continue in NY city and NJ. It'll attack the lawyers as well.
I suspect she will be vomiting blood through her eyeballs in court.
But at least she had her day in court for feeling butt-hurt over somebody protecting a state from a deadly disease.
the perverse side of me actually wants her to come down with ebola and spread it to every one of her family members while asymptomatic, just so she can STFU.
but alas, my logical side prevails. sigh......
Come on Christie you fat fuck. Mandatory quarantine was the right thing to do. Besides, any decent Ebola victim should play along. If not, they should be shot in the head for being a selfish asshole who doesn't care about others
A downvote! Maybe that bitch is trolling zh while on 'voluntary' quarantine. Don't let anyone else use your iPad after you cough on it, you reckless, selfish cunt
F her.
perhaps if her mindless and selfish medical cohorts werent flying around on airliners and roaming through the city by subway, there wouldnt be an issue. perhaps if nancy synderman wasnt violating her quarantine by running out for sushi pick up, there wouldnt be an issue. these so called professionals returning from ebola stricken areas have acted recklessly. she should be quarantined, plain and simple.
If someone doesn't show symptoms and tests negative, release him from quarantine. Ask him to stay at home for a couple of weeks and monitor him. Is that really this difficult?
Or... Reopen Ellis Island. Hasn't anyone seen the Godfather?
By letting brute morons run this, no one is going to help you identify where they've been and what they've got.
Also, make these airlines accountable. Say it's too big of a risk. You can travel, but just say "no thanks" when it comes to air travel. You don't have to let sick people fly. And that goes for the flu as well.
That is some awful shit that has came from Africa that will destroy the United States of America and destroy our way of live and erode our civil liberties. That piece of shit currently resides in a white house in DC.
Ebola - I am not too concerned with.
Nothing to do with National Security??
They arrest without charges, seize funds on a supicion of terrorism, and invoke martial law, all in the name of national Security.
From now on, if any American wants to go to W. Africa they have to sign away their rights.
Philippines has a 42-day quarantine. They're smart.They also know that their healthcare system cant handle an ebola outbreak.
But in the US, bio containment hospitals have at most a few dozen state of the art beds and a team to go with it!
What firepower!!
OBOLA SAYS BRING IT!!!
I see a little hipocracy in this nurse. She cared sooo much for the patients in Africa that she risked her own life and treated them. Hmmm, but here she does not seem to care about unexposed people and is risking their lives without them even knowing it. Me thinks me sees a liberal thought twister. We quarantine pets traveling to different countries but not for this?
she's just afraid of contemplaiting the reality that she might have been exposed to the virus. she is just in denial.
but otherwise she is probably a staunch liberal, i'm sure.
This alleged 'nurse' appears to be a straw person, for The Regime...WHY do these people want to kill us ???
"WHY do these people want to kill us ???"
The KEY to understanding the otherwise inexplicable
As always, competition over scarce resources. They feed off of our misery.
What saddens me is all of the police-statists in this thread that wants to give the global mafia even more power over the lives of us all. The instant scary stories start coming in, they totally abandon the idea of their cherished republic, demanding full-blown fascism.
Well, I'm all for suing some entity, any entity that could pay me millions of dollars and if it's on contingency, I have nothing to lose.
So I wish her luck.
From my own experience, I doubt she or her attorneys will see more than nuisance, go away money b 4 any trial takes place. Tough to sue a government entity acting in what it perceives as the best interests of the general public, over the legitimate rights of an individual.
Christie did the right thing because that's what governing is: under reacting and over reacting. Rarely do they ever....take that back.....NEVER do they get it right.
Christie and Cuomo - together don't have a set of balls.
Eunuchs....both of them
Add Boehner and we’ve got an ‘American Musical, the Crying Republicans.’
shes suing them because she knows its a fucking hoax.
I'm sure that she will immediately be invited to The White House where Obomba will hug the shit out of her, because that is what he does to those Ebola nurse-heros right? He is such a brave leader, I'll bet he just hugs the shit out of here right on the evening news, to demonstrate his personal bravery and his conviction that quarrentines are not needed. Right?
Don't start, I'm beginning to feel sorry for her already.
Can't have a CIA operative out of commission for 21 days.
The quarantining is appropriate and I believe necessary. Quarantining in a tent with no shower is not appropriate. Give it time, in a month or two the quarantine will be back.
Well, the Feds have a foot in each canoe. They are quarantining our military coming in from Liberia - testing positive or not and none have had contact with ebola patients. While at the same time telling the states that auto-quarantine for unaffected people is wrong. Personally, I beleive if you get tested for ebola and there is none in your blood, then you should be free to go. After all - you don't have it!
you know the americans are defeated when they are that fucking scared of the propaganda their government is feeding them they are calling for fat fuck christy to detain people involuntarily, you cowards have lost the fucking plot, this shit is not real you people are fools.
Just enjoy the show, man.
Wait for the "where did we go wrong?" moment to bitch slap these pussies.
Christie manages to further committ political suicide.... i guess he is just trying to make Jeb look better?
Awwwww is PIGGLY WiGGLY back pedaling .... whats wrong Tubby, you still toothless and worthless
Does anyone now still doubt that this introduction into the USSA of ebola is deliberate? It is clear...
OBAMA PRESSURES STATES TO REVERSE QUARANTINE ORDERS
Christie is too fat to fold, blobs are incapable of folding.
There's a limit to how many times ANY country can dodge the bullet with a pathogen like Ebola.
The US is playing Russian Roulette with this disease and the trigger has already been pulled twice.
I thought Liberia was a suburb of Hoboken
More Ebola theater.
When will it end?!
An American, not US subject.
More on the nurse:
http://bangordailynews.com/2014/10/25/news/nation/us-nurse-quarantined-o...