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NJ Governor Christie Folds, Un-Quarantines "Symptom-Free" Nurse After 24 Hours
In a sudden reversal, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Monday that the state will release the quarantined American nurse who had been confined in a hospital isolation tent upon arrival from West Africa despite showing no signs of Ebola. As USA Today reports, Kaci Hickox, 33, was the first person pulled aside at Newark Liberty International Airport on Friday under Christie's new strict mandatory quarantine-for-21-days rules. It appears, as Reuters reports, Christie got a tap on the shoulder as The White House has told states that have imposed mandatory quarantines for some travelers from Ebola-hit West Africa that the policy could impede the fight against the disease. Additionally, in true litigious American style, Hickox plans to sue.
Christie makes a strong statement last night...
The quarantined nurse is infuriated...
In a telephone interview with CNN, Hickox, a native Texan who now lives in Maine, said her confinement at University Hospital in Newark was "inhumane" and akin to being in prison. She said she has no symptoms and tested negative for Ebola.
"This is an extreme that is really unacceptable, and I feel like my basic human rights have been violated," Hickox who said on CNN's State of the Union.
24 hours after making the following statement: "I don't think when you're dealing with something as serious as this you can count on a voluntary system."This is the government's job." N
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Monday that the state will release the quarantined American nurse who had been confined in a hospital isolation tent upon arrival from West Africa despite showing no signs of Ebola.
As USA Today reports, Christie writes that Hickox "has thankfully been symptom free for the last 24 hrs. After being evaluated by CDC & her clinicians the patient is being discharged."
The move came only hours after Christie defended his state's strict new regulations for medical aids returning from Ebola-stricken West Africa.
The White House has told states that have imposed mandatory quarantines for some travelers from Ebola-hit West Africa that the policy could impede the fight against the disease.
The White House voiced its concern to the governors of New York and New Jersey about the potential impact of quarantine orders, a senior administration official said on Sunday.
"We have let the governors of New York, New Jersey, and other states know that we have concerns with the unintended consequences of policies not grounded in science may have on efforts to combat Ebola at its source in West Africa," the Obama administration official said in a statement.
Kaci Hickox, a nurse placed in 21-day quarantine in a New Jersey hospital after returning from treating Ebola patients in Sierra Leone, will contest her quarantine in court, her attorney said on Sunday, arguing the order violates her constitutional rights.
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We are sure they have it all under control - they have been preparing for months... and Ebola is so hard to catch.
The White House is working on new guidelines for such health care workers, according to a senior administration official.
The new guidelines are expected to be unveiled in the coming days, the official said. The official added that the administration is consulting with the states as they develop the new rules.
President Obama met Sunday with his Ebola response team, including "Ebola czar" Ron Klain and other public health and national security officials. According to the White House, the president said any measures concerning returning health care workers "should be crafted so as not to unnecessarily discourage those workers from serving."
Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and United Nations Ambassador Samantha Power said quarantines may discourage health workers from traveling to West Africa to help block the disease at its source.
"If you put everyone in one basket, even people who are clearly no threat, then we have the problem of the disincentive of people that we need," Fauci said on ABC's This Week. "Let's not forget the best way to stop this epidemic and protect America is to stop it in Africa, and you can really help stopping it in Africa if we have our people, our heroes, the health care workers, go there and help us to protect America."
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Eric Frein needs to take care of this problem!!!
With the Enterprise (ship) in imminent danger of destruction, Spock enters a highly radioactive chamber in order to fix the ship’s drive so the crew can escape danger. Spock quickly perishes, and, with his final breaths, says to Kirk, “Don’t grieve, Admiral. It is logical. The needs of the many outweigh . . .” Kirk finishes for him, “The needs of the few.” Spock replies, “Or the one.”
Sorry, but the psychopaths' moral compass reads as so:
"The needs of the few and mighty outweigh the needs of the many and puny."
An American, not US subject.
"The needs of the many guillotines outweigh the needs of the criminal coup to keep their heads."
"Ebola quarantine nurse's ties to CDC scrubbed from web; was it a staged op to invoke opposition to quarantines?"
http://www.naturalnews.com/047406_Ebola_quarantines_New_Jersey_CDC.html
"New York abandons Ebola quarantine after pressure from Obama; politics now driving all medical decisions"
http://www.naturalnews.com/047418_Ebola_quarantine_New_York_City_politic...
"Hamblin: Travel-ban opposition is largely based on this claim that it would impede our ability to help stem the epidemic in West Africa.
Hatfill: You know, I went for a Department of Defense interview years ago. They wanted a scientist down at the Pentagon that could invent stuff that would support presidential policy. ... They just wanted a spokesperson that could kind of come up with a plausible explanation to explain a higher-up directive. And I think this is the same thing."
http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/10/21-days/381901/?single...
Lookout! Another singer has flubbed the lyrics to the National Anthem. Hell, can't we pass a bill to prevent this from happening? We could form a new federal agency or something (that's how you create jobs, bitchez) and the new agency could create Flub Free Zones and tap your phone to enforce them! That's right, the TEEVEE told me that the National Anthem is IMPORTANT!
CDC finally admits it can be spread in droplets in the air. (But it's still hard to catch)
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/pdf/infections-spread-by-air-or-droplets.pdf
And also I just saw a picture of Nurse Pham, the ebola Nurse who never got ill, giving Obama a big 'ole (17 days after infection) hug.
(17 days after her infection was "confirmed", not her all clear).
Good luck Bazza!
She received blood products from survivor Brantly. Appeared to work amazingly well...
I thought I read she received no treatments apart from good homely care from Texas.
"The nurse at Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital in Dallas who tested positive for Ebola has received a blood donation from a North Texas doctor who survived his bout with the potentially deadly disease.
Nina Pham, 26, is believed to be the first person to contract Ebola within the United States.
A spokesperson for Samaritan's Purse said Dr. Kent Brantly, the Fort Worth physician who survived Ebola after he was treated at Emory University Medical Center in Atlanta earlier this summer, donated blood to Pham on Sunday [Oct 12th].
Brantly, who previously said he offered to donate blood to first Dallas Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan but was not a compatible blood type, went to Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital to make a plasma donation.
Brantly didn't have to go far to make the blood donation for Pham. He recently moved back to North Texas after recovering from Ebola in Atlanta."
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/health/Patient-in-Second-Dallas-Ebola-Case-Id...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/dallas-nurse-treated-for-ebola-at-ni...
Fair enough, but I knew I read no drugs administered somewhere. Brantly-Super-Blood not mentioned in this article.
Good find.
Here's another CDC document showing projected infection and mortality rates for Ebola (including non-reported cases) for two of the three African countries mainly affected up to January 2015.
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/su6303a1.htm
It aint pretty. Up to 1.5 million infections by January, with deaths presumably around the 750,000 mark .
My level of concern about Ebola in the US will take a jump when we get the first ebola patient for whom the direct source of contaigen is not known or tracable to a known ebola infected person. Like they picked it up from public transportation or something out in the public. As far as I know, that has not happened yet. My guess would have been Dallas, say around the Ivy Apartments. Nothing reported yet. It will be interesting to see what happens after next week.
She looked prettier behind the plastic bubble... can we put her back in there?
That was before the federal crisis team's makeup artists got ahold of her.
If you're stupid enough to go to West Africa you deserve what you get. Fuck this bitch (and fuck that shithole known as Africa too). She's putting her family and the rest of us at risk. She made a CHOICE, she should have to live with it. All airline tickets to West Africa should be one way.
at least everyone knows what she looks like now so they can run if they see her coming
Christie put her fat ass on a medical jet to Maine and told them she's their baby now. No interaction with public transport in NJ.
So LePage has to deal with it.
Looks like she's a lesbian from google image search, too. She's going to Fort Kent, up in THE county. That should be fun.
Well there's maybe 4,000 people in and around Fort Kent in an area of about 60 square miles..nothing for most people to go there for...so nobody will even really notice or care, if it disappears
The ‘leaders’ of the country turned into a bunch of flip-floppers.
has she been tested for West African semen? Just asking.
jabbering chimp fools
this is not a game
you are apes not rodents runing around and around in those little cage run around things.
the things that keep gerbils busy before they are inserted up the arse of homosexualist george cloney
this is not a zionist psy op it REAL.
anti semetism in new york a sad day.
the usa must stop locking up jewish male and female fallen angels
who go to afric for the deep love of the children.
this lileth this doctor she must be paid compensation for the jail trauma.
a donation should also be made to aipac the cfr,chatham house and the brookings institute it goes without saying that the simon weasel spielberg institute for hollow hoax studies needs the bulk of the funds.
if caananites,kabbalah satanists want to spread love in afric and come home free to the homelands,
why not eye says.
let the rabbi work he is after all excetable..exceptionull x septical
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Do you piss metal pellets?
Christy has just reverted to the process used for that smirking cunt doctor in NYC.
How's that 2016 thing working out, Jabba?
I'm not sure this is backpeddling.
The selfish nurse is a Maine resident; Christie said that she is not flying commercial, but rather taking a chartered flight back to Maine. Fine, let them deal with this.
The anti-quarantine mentality is going to kill a lot of people. I hope that Christie and Cuomo don't cave to the powers that be who clearly either a) are insanely incompetent or b) want this virus to spread.
I hope she's quarantined in Maine. That'll stop the feckin' do-gooders returning.
Yes, quarantining potential vectors of Ebola WOULD impede the fight against the disease. As the President and the hypergeniuses at CDC know, the best way to contain / prevent an epidemic is to enourage people who may be infected to move around as much as possible. In fact, this brings me to the essential point: why are airlines not offering rock-bottom fares from Monrovia to New York? It makes no sense! Please join me in calling our elected representatives to demand that the flux of travelers from West Africa to New York be increased with all speed. It's the only hope we have, really.
And can we please stop with this nonsense of hazmat suits, etc? So far, every health-care worker who has been infected is reported to have engaged in various degrees of asepsis. This proves that trying to NOT get infected is actually counterproductive. We have to suppress our common sense and listen instead to the people who fixed Iraq, who pacified ISIS, who have made North Africa into a very model of liberal Democracy, etc, etc.
Relax and let the Ivy Leaguers do their jobs. "They got this."
I bet the nurse swallowed while over there.
Christie knows all he has to do is call up the NJ Port Authority to cause a massive traffic jam and that nurse ain't goin' nowhere cuz she'll essentially be quarantined on the NJ Turnpike.
It's Monday, so why not dig up that dead horse and beat it again???
BIG mistake
Yet US troops returning from West Africa are being placed in isolation in Italy:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-outbreak-u-s-soldiers-returning-from-l...
A nurse of all things! She knows the risks and still wants to risk other peoples lives for her inane selfishness. Hopefully she is free of the disease, for others sakes, not hers. If she does have it, and spreads it, the lawsuits coming her and her family's way wil be never ending. What's good for the goose is good for the gander but in this case most everyone dies.
She needs her ass kicked.
Half the tin-foil hat community is screaming that the government must do something. The other half is screaming about violations of freedoms and civil liberties. I love it. You anarchists need to get organized.
Another one of LTER's little friends?
Has nothing to do with anarchy. Your freedoms and civil liberties end when when you are a risk to other peoples lives due to a contagious disease that kills like this one. A medical professional would not have to be told this. This person is not a professional. She is just another bone headed selfish american that thinks her convenience is of greater concern than someones life. Most americans are like this. Look at the wars. Other lives are meaningless to maintain our way of life.
"arguing the order violates her constitutional rights"? What about the 10th amenendment???
The Tenth Amendment was included in the Bill of Rights to further define the balance of power between the federal government and the states. The amendment says that the federal government has only those powers specifically granted by the Constitution which doesn't include quarantine decisions about Ebola bitch
Now don't take me wrong but this constitution thing is a joke. The federale's don't abide, The states don't abide and the people want to treat it as if it's a salad bar. Oh! I like this amendment but that one sucks and so on.
We are no longer in practice a constitutional republic. Let's leave it be in peace.
Are there any ebola silver rounds available?
If she eventually tests positive, can we all sue her?
of course. but can you prove negligence?
dont worry you will die from ebola before you will be able to find out one way or the other
So did they use the same specually-outfitted CIA rendition Gulfstream business jet they used to bring the sickies from Africa and Pham to Maryland to take the nurse to Maine?
They should sell ebola vaccines in Walmart, right next to ammo.
Here's an idea: If this nurse does turn up positive for ebola, there will be reason for government to take away a whole lot of rights.
I'm conflicted because her entitled whining has made me hope she ends up sick.
repeat
if i were governor christy, i would MAKE SURE THIS WOMAN HAS EBOLA.
now, after he let her go, when they find out she has ebola------he can blame it one the president. and then run on that platform.
Anyone who genuinely wants to go over there to serve the poor African Ebolians would also WANT to be quarantined on the way back. It's part of the price of admission.
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There you go Kaci, now you can go home, take a shower and watch yourself on TV. If you get the disease and infect someone else, you are a criminal in my book. Not to mention the enormous expense taxpayers will get to pay treating you, all for your' need to "save the world".
How can anyone mismanage things to that point? Letting this woman out in the name of her "rights" is downward criminal, while not providing her with a shower is totally incomprehensible. Is having proper, humane quarantine conditions that hard, for Heaven's sake?
The last politicians/CDC blunder resulted in a worldwide HIV pandemic. Will these fools ever learn?
There goes his presidential chances
Who ARE these assholes who claim that a quarantine policy is not grounded in science. They can't point to a single damn case of anything contagious anywhere where not quarantining made things better.
I'm tired of the liars trying to shut off discussion by claiming to have some kind of scientific high ground when their position is completely unscientific.
Good luck on a lawsuit. I'd laugh in her ugly face if I was on that jury. If you go to Liberia, then you should take a 21 day break to make sure you have no Ebola. Why expose others for your own stupidity? I hope she sings a different tune when blood is spraying out her flappy asshole.
"Christie folds"
I'm shocked,http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME has Christie ever NOT folded on anything?
Imagine Christie as president, not!
This seems to me be an unlawful detainment and arrest.
1.) Was there "probable cause"?
Sure, she was returning from West Africa. However, she showed no signs or symptoms of Ebola - of any illness at all. So my answer is NO "probable cause".
"Probable cause" is defined as some objective evidence that someone has committed or in the process of committing a crime.
2.) Even if the people detaining her felt there was "probable cause", did they obtain an "arrest warrant" signed by a judge based on a signed affidavit sworn as an oath to be the truth under penalty of perjury specifically naming her? (An OATH is, in fact, a CONTRACT under law - so by submitting a false affidavit, sworn and signed as an oath, that person has committed a crime both under the Common Law AND under Commercial Law.
4th Amendment:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
The U.S. inherited the Common Law from Britain and even today in the U.S., the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled numerous times that the Common Law is superior to legislated acts (statutes). However, very few people and judges know much about the Common Law. So, the police, courts and even attorneys make the PRESUMPTION that you have CONSENTED to be under the jurisdiction of legislated acts (statutes). And an ancient maxim of law states, "A presumption NOT rebutted becames a fact in Law." - that is, if you do NOT object to their presumption, their presumption becomes a fact of law in that case.
3.) The Founders in America knew a GREAT DEAL about the Common Law, Equity Law (legislated acts; statutes) and international Commercial Law (Law Merchant), which are the ONLY types of law allowed by the Constitution. And they knew well the major court decisions in British history and made every attempt to include them into both American Common Law and American Equity Law (legislated actsacts; statutes)
U.S. Constitution, Article III - Section 2.
"The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law [the Common Law] and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority..."
Under British and American law, unlawfully arresting a person was an EXTREMELY serious offense.
Around 1670 in Britain the Queen’s Bench ruled that forceful resistance to unlawful arrest by police was a right of the people, even if it such resistance resulted in the death of the arresting police officer (the Hopkin Huggett’s Case). The Queen’s Bench ruled that Huggett’s actions were justified, since a situation in which a "man [is] unduly arrested or restrained of his liberty … is a provocation to all other men of England, not only his friends but strangers also[,] for common humanity’s sake."
In 1710 the Queen’s Bench ruling re-confirmed the Common Law right to forcefully resist an unlawful arrest. Queen v. Tooley (1710). Anne Dekins, who often used rather "forceful language" when coming in contact with Police Officer Samuel Bray, was quietly walking home one daay when Officer Bray attempted to arrest her.Dekins forcefully resisted and screamed for help, resulting in the intervention of a group of men who witnessed the entire incident, led by a man named Tooley. The men confronted Officer Bray and demanded to know what he was doing to the woman. The Officer Bray produced his official credentials and insisted that he was making a lawful arrest for "disorderly conduct." When witnesses to Dekins’ behavior disputed Bray’s description, Bray called for backup.Tooley and his associates ordered Bray to release the woman, and then took physical action to enforce that lawful order. After Bray’s partner was killed in the ensuing struggle, Tooley and his associates were arrested for murder. The trial court threw out the murder charges. Second, since the arrest was unlawful, the court stated that Dekins had a right to resist, using as much force as necessary to maintain her freedom – and bystanders likewise had a right, if not a positive duty, to assist her. Third, it the opinion of the person being arrested and/or witnesses to the attempted arrest who should decide whether an arrest was lawful or unlawful - NOT the police officer. The defendants were eventually found guilty of manslaughter by jury trial, but freed by the court which reversed the jury's verdict as an error under the Common Law.
The court wrote further, Lawless violence against the helpless, even by police officers, "is a sufficient provocation to all people out of compassion in any circumstance, much more where it is done under a colour of justice, and where the liberty of the subject is invaded…." and "Such an act carried out by a law enforcement official is nothing less than a provocation to ALL the subjects of England."; and "Every Englishman ought to be concerned for Magna Charta and the laws. And if any one against the law imprison a man, he is an offender against Magna Charta."
Both cases confirmed the long-recognized Common Law right to resist unlawful arrest (with the lawfulness of an arrest as judged by the people; not by the government agents); and this right applies NOT only to the person being arrested, but also to other people who intervene on the victim’s behalf.
This same Common Law right still exists in America today, provided that one knows how to preserve one’s rights in today’s courts, which means knowing the Common Law and how to maintain Common Law jurisdiction is today's courts - NOT an easy task. In Plummer v. State, 135 Ind. 308, 34 N.E. 968 (1893) the Supreme Court of Indiana reversed a manslaughter conviction, concluded that defendant Plummer had "a clear right to defend himself, even to taking the life of his assailant" who happened to be a police officer without an arrest warrant.
Under the still-controlling U.S. Supreme Court precedent, John Bad Elk vs. U.S,. 177 U.S. 529, 44 L.Ed. 874, 20 S.Ct. 729, (1900) and subsequent court decisions, a man faced with the prospect of unlawful arrest – that is, an armed abduction – has a lawful right to use any appropriate means necessary, including lethal force, to defend himself and maintain his freedom. The U.S. Supreme Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right [to make the arrest, i.e., an unlawful arrest]. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”
As in Plummer, the Supreme Court in Bad Elk emphasized that the most important factor under the Common Law for the right to forcefully resist arrest is when that arrest is considered to be UNLAWFUL in the opinion of the arresteee and/or witnesses – NOT the police officer's opinion; and NOT whether or not the police used excessive force!
Clearly, UNLESS they possessed an "arrest warrant", the people who first detained her (presumably the police) and the hospital which kept her confined BOTH violated her rights under the Common Law and the U.S. Constitution - whether they considered it an "emergency measure" or not.
“Necessity and expediency are NOT legitimate excuses for violating the Constitution you swore to uphold and protect – even during a ‘crisis’”. – Alexander Hamilton (1st Secretary of the Treasury under President George Washington)
When one travels to Ebola-stan, treats Ebola patients, does this not create probable cause for detainment?
In 1948, Henry Kissinger, a 23-year-old American intelligence officer, recruited Nazi expatriates to serve in top positions in American military, aerospace, and biological science and medicine. Twenty years later, he left Harvard’s esteemed faculty and resigned a lucrative position as Nelson Rockefeller’s foreign policy attache’ to become President Nixon’s closest advisor and director of the National Security Council. Seeking alternatives to tactical nuclear weapons to bolster America’s “diplomacy” abroad, the paranoid and egomaniacal Kissinger quickly ordered the Army’s Chief of Staff to requisition $10 million from Congress for the development and testing of EBOLA & AIDS-like viruses. Within ten years, the AIDS and Ebola epidemics erupted coincidentally in the regions of Africa ravaged by CIA military covert operations also ordered by Kissinger.
In 1984, Dr. Robert Gallo, of the National Cancer Institute, claimed credit for discovering the AIDS virus. He announced it most likely originated from a monkey virus which spontaneously mutated and naturally jumped species. Dr. Gallo was a biological weapons contractor for the CIA’s top secret “Project: MKNAOMI,” and was paid to produce and test EBOLA, AIDS-like viruses as early as 1970.
EBOLA – CIA Project Codename MKNAOMI & Hi-Tech AssassinationsJust my opinion, but the flaming libtard ugly cunt should be locked down for the full 21. Any law firm that would have accepted her case should have been shunned forever after.
That fat bitch Christie wouldn't have got my vote but his back down in regards to this bitch speaks volumes to his character.
If president, he'd be a international joke of a leader in the mold of Obama.
She was only there for the photo ops. Quarantine was not part of the agreement.
CORRECTED VERSION:
This seems to me be an unlawful detainment and arrest.
1.) Was there "probable cause"?
Sure, she was returning from West Africa. However, she showed no signs or symptoms of Ebola - of any illness at all. So my answer is NO "probable cause".
"Probable cause" is defined as some objective evidence that someone has committed or in the process of committing a crime.
2.) Even if the people detaining her felt there was "probable cause", did they obtain an "arrest warrant" signed by a judge based on a signed affidavit sworn as an oath to be the truth under penalty of perjury specifically naming her? (An OATH is, in fact, a CONTRACT under law - so by submitting a false affidavit, sworn and signed as an oath, that person has committed a crime both under the Common Law AND under Commercial Law, as well as Equity Law.)
4th Amendment:
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
The U.S. inherited the Common Law from Britain and even today in the U.S., the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled numerous times that the Common Law is superior to legislated acts (statutes). However, very few people and judges know much about the Common Law. So, the police, courts and even attorneys make the PRESUMPTION that you have CONSENTED to be under the jurisdiction of legislated acts (statutes). And an ancient maxim of law states, "A presumption NOT rebutted becomes a fact in Law." - that is, if you do NOT object to their presumption, their presumption becomes a fact of law in that case.
3.) The Founders in America knew a GREAT DEAL about the Common Law, Equity Law (legislated acts; statutes) and international Commercial Law (Law Merchant), which are the ONLY types of law allowed by the Constitution. And they knew well the major court decisions in British history and made every attempt to include them into the U.S. Constitution; and both American Common Law and American Equity Law (legislated acts; statutes).
U.S. Constitution, Article III - Section 2.
"The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law [the Common Law] and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority..."
Under British and American law, unlawfully arresting a person was an EXTREMELY serious offense!!
Around 1670 in Britain the Queen’s Bench ruled that forceful resistance to unlawful arrest by police was a right of the people, even if it such resistance resulted in the death of the arresting police officer (the Hopkin Huggett’s Case). The Queen’s Bench ruled that Huggett’s actions were justified, since a situation in which a "man [is] unduly arrested or restrained of his liberty … is a provocation to all other men of England, not only his friends but strangers also[,] for common humanity’s sake."
In 1710 the Queen’s Bench ruling re-confirmed the Common Law right to forcefully resist an unlawful arrest. Queen v. Tooley (1710). Anne Dekins, who often used rather "forceful language" when coming in contact with Police Officer Samuel Bray, was quietly walking home one daay when Officer Bray attempted to arrest her.Dekins forcefully resisted and screamed for help, resulting in the intervention of a group of men who witnessed the entire incident, led by a man named Tooley. The men confronted Officer Bray and demanded to know what he was doing to the woman. The Officer Bray produced his official credentials and insisted that he was making a lawful arrest for "disorderly conduct." When witnesses to Dekins’ behavior disputed Bray’s description, Bray called for backup.Tooley and his associates ordered Bray to release the woman, and then took physical action to enforce that lawful order. After Bray’s partner was killed in the ensuing struggle, Tooley and his associates were arrested for murder. The trial court threw out the murder charges. Second, since the arrest was unlawful, the court stated that Dekins had a right to resist, using as much force as necessary to maintain her freedom – and bystanders likewise had a right, if not a positive duty, to assist her. Third, it the opinion of the person being arrested and/or witnesses to the attempted arrest who should decide whether an arrest was lawful or unlawful - NOT the police officer. The defendants were eventually found guilty of manslaughter by jury trial, but freed by the court which reversed the jury's verdict as an error under the Common Law.
The court wrote further: Lawless violence against the helpless, even by police officers, "is a sufficient provocation to ALL people out of compassion in any circumstance, much more where it is done under a colour of justice, and where the liberty of the subject is invaded…." and "Such an act carried out by a law enforcement official is nothing less than a provocation to ALL the subjects of England."; and "Every Englishman ought to be concerned for Magna Charta and the laws. And if any one [including a police officer] against the law imprison a man, he is an offender against Magna Charta."
Both cases confirmed the long-recognized Common Law right to resist unlawful arrest (with the lawfulness of an arrest as judged by the people; not by the government agents); and this right applies NOT only to the person being arrested, but also to other people who intervene on the victim’s behalf.
This same Common Law right still exists in America today, provided that one knows how to preserve one’s rights in today’s courts, which means knowing the Common Law and how to maintain Common Law jurisdiction is today's courts - NOT an easy task. In Plummer v. State, 135 Ind. 308, 34 N.E. 968 (1893) the Supreme Court of Indiana reversed a manslaughter conviction, concluding that defendant Plummer had "a clear right to defend himself, even to taking the life of his assailant" who happened to be a police officer without an arrest warrant.
Under the still-controlling U.S. Supreme Court precedent, John Bad Elk vs. U.S,. 177 U.S. 529, 44 L.Ed. 874, 20 S.Ct. 729, (1900) and subsequent U.S. Supreme Court decisions, a man faced with the prospect of unlawful arrest – that is, an armed abduction – has a lawful right to use any appropriate means necessary, including lethal force, to defend himself and maintain his freedom. The U.S. Supreme Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right [to make the arrest, i.e., an unlawful arrest]. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”
As in Plummer, the U.S. Supreme Court in the Bad Elk case emphasized that the most important factor under the Common Law for the right to forcefully resist arrest (when no valid arrest warrant has been obtained) is whether that arrest is considered to be UNLAWFUL in the opinion of the arrestee and/or witnesses – NOT the police officer's opinion; and NOT whether or not the police are using or used excessive force!
Clearly, UNLESS they possessed an "arrest warrant", the people who first detained this nurse (presumably the police) and the hospital which kept her confined BOTH violated her rights under the Common Law and the U.S. Constitution - whether they considered it an "emergency measure" or not.
“Necessity and expediency are NOT legitimate excuses for violating the Constitution you swore to uphold and protect – even during a ‘crisis’”. – Alexander Hamilton (1st Secretary of the Treasury under President George Washington)
Added Note: Oddly enough, it is NOT the various state or federal legislatures through legislation that whittled away this right under the Common Law. Nor was it done by state supreme courts or the U.S. Supreme Court. Instead, this right to “forcefully resist unlawful arrest” (whether or not the arresting officer is using violent methods) was transmuted by lower court judges and juries, along with state appeals courts - with encouragement from law enforcement personnel - who now tend to justify resisting ANY arrest ONLY if the arresting officer has used greatly excessive and unwarranted force.
John-Henry Hill, M.D.
retired physician
Web: http://JohnHenryHill.Wordpress.com
Quarantine can be applied to humans, but also to animals of various kinds, and both as part of border control as well as within a country. Ir=t was not an arrest but a form of Border control,
CDC Definition
Quarantine separates and restricts the movement of people who were exposed to a contagious disease to see if they become sick.
Federal LawThe federal government derives its authority for isolation and quarantine from the Commerce Clause of the U.S. Constitution.
Federal isolation and quarantine are authorized for these communicable diseases:Federal isolation and quarantine are authorized by Executive Order of the President. The President can revise this list by Executive Order.
Under section 361 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S. Code § 264), the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services is authorized to take measures to prevent the entry and spread of communicable diseases from foreign countries into the United States and between states.
The authority for carrying out these functions on a daily basis has been delegated to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
OBAMA is not obeying Under section 361 of the Public Health Service Act (42 U.S. Code § 264),
For her sake she better not travel to CT.
Reply to Yellowsub: May I ask "Why not?"
If there are two states that no one would miss if they sank beneaath the ocean, they are: Connecticut and Rhode Island - with Massachusetts a close 3rd place.
the feds threaten funding cut off, so Christie folded
it's not Christie, it's that cocksucker barry behind this - hope you and your family get ebola barry!!!
Christie has come a long way.
Once upon a time he worked as Bernie Madoff's lobbyist and PR man. Look it up if you don't believe me.
Nowadays he is the local Ebola czar.
Take cheer, They say whales are an endangered species,
CDC and Media Agenda Revealed? Nurse That Complained About Ebola Quarantine Employed by CDC!
http://www.dcclothesline.com/
People should be calling for quarantines in Africa to be implemented before being allowed to board planes coming here. Instead, people are calling for jailing people who have no symptoms of any disease because they' may have been infected'.
Does that mean the people who flew the plane with the Dallas nurse, should also be quarantines in prison like conditions using a bucket as a toilet? Where does it stop? There are no ground rules, just hysteria, and we should all know by now, what we kinds of things we agree to, what rights we agree to lose, out of fear.
If this country once again collectively calls out for an increasingly authoritarian state, cheering mass incarcerations of citizens deemed potentially dangerous by the same state, I no longer feel sorry. We will be getting exactly the government we deserve.
This nurse who worked for the CDC and her very uncooperative public attitude is almost too perfect a tool to market such a call for mass quarantines for anyone the CDC suspects to be 'dangerous to public health'. That could be, for example, a person who refuses to be vaccinated because they happen to be a molecular scientist who believe certain vaccines actually expose you to the very pathogen you are trying to avoid and do the opposite of what they are supposed to do.