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Martin Armstrong: "At What Point Does Revolution Take Place?"
Submitted by Martin Armstrong via Armstrong Economics,
Reuters has published the result of what is being touted as the Ignorance Index. The one question as an example: “Guess how many U.S. girls aged 15-19 give birth each year. Go ahead, guess. If you calculated the number at 3 percent you’re correct; if you guessed 24 percent, you’re American.”
I rarely watch TV. If I do, it tends to be national news – never local that think a burning house is news or some guy shot his wife in a domestic dispute. I was at dinner and the TV was on. I could not believe the TV advertisements for the elections. They are all NEGATIVE calling the other a liar or misrepresenting the facts on everything. One said the candidate cut the number of police, made the streets more dangerous and then shows a picture of ISIS and then said she raise taxes. Then the very next advertisement flips and calls the other a liar for something or another. There was ZERO advertisement about anything other than vote for me because I lie less that the other liar.
It seems that the Ignorant Index may be more tied to the bias and lack of integrity of the media. They focus on sensationalism to gain readership and in the process focus of one thing and create false images in the minds of the average person.
A classic issue is immigration and Muslims. Americans, according to the Ignorant Index, “significantly miss the mark on the proportion of the population that is comprised of immigrants, guessing 32 percent against the true number of 13 percent. Americans also overestimate the number of Muslims in the population, 15 percent versus only 1 percent in reality, and underestimate the number of Christians, 56 percent to 78 percent. ”
It seems as if the problem is not that Americans are ignorant, they are being fed nonsense by the media to sell newspaper and TV advertising. We have fallen into a cycle of Yellow Journalism that was begun by Pulitzer. It was Pulitzer for created the Spanish-American War by making up shit to sell newspapers. The famous Pulitzer Prize given by Columbia University is named after the father of Yellow Journalism – go figure!
One good place to start is OUTLAW negative advertising. COMPEL political candidates to state what they stand for rather than calling their opponent a liar. Then if they do not vote for what they profess and knuckle under to party rule, that should be FRAUD and time for a vacation in the “Big House” (Penitentiary named after a place you were supposed to be silent and do penance).. We seem to elect people for no reason and then wonder why nothing changes. Obama’s vote for me for real change has been a joke – he kept the same people Bush had in place. This is why polls place politicians at 7% trust factors. The days of Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, and Maggie Thatcher who at least stood for what they believed in regardless of what people thought, are over. They were at least ethical.
At what point does revolution take place? It does not appear to be a percentage in our review of history, but the economic trend. In other words, turn the economy down and the percent of discontent rises exponentially. So beware – not ghosts and goblins, but politicians 2015.75-2020. So perhaps Americans will wise up only when the economy turns down and the Internet provides a greater proportion of real news compared to mainstream media. Indeed, the younger generation under 40 rely on the internet and those who subscribe to newspapers or watch the TV news are diminishing rapidly. This in itself will be a dynamic shift that restores freedom of the press and only then perhaps we will see Americans rise in the Ignorance Index.
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Glad to hear it. Wait. There will be no revolution, this system will collapse under it's own weight as that which cannot be sustained, won't be. Interesting times, lots of opportunity.
Answer the fucking question. You keep dodging.
Where the fuck are the self-organized SWAT teams focused on protecting individual sovereignty?
There aren't any, which means you're part of LEO. Or more clearly stated, a fucking jackboot sellout bitch. Shut the fuck up now.
LoP, you surprise me: I knew that you train and prep with your ex-Mil buddies and that you're in charge of some large farmer cooperate (tens of thousands of acres in TX), with business dealings overseas, but I never knew that you're part of a "quiet SWAT". "Interesting", to borrow from Spock.
"remember where you signed". When one side breaches the contract, it's void.
hedgeless_horseman
First, you wrote: “Most Americans are already revolting,”… followed by two overweighed woman.
Now, you wrote: “plausible idea of a foreign enemy manufacturing a revolution in the USA
Are you that brainwashed by irrelevant cliché (and picture); as well as deluded that some foreign enemy can invade the US?
Do you really believe that is even an option?
“America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.” -- Abraham Lincoln
Now, just wondering... as many here:
1) Why did you place that irrelevant picture?
2) And what were you thinking while posting it? Did you find it funny?
Here’s the problem,
Attention-seeking behavior like that, it’s telling us how emotionally immature you are.
Sorry, I know you don’t want to hear it, hedgeless_horseman… But you only have yourself to blame.
That's just basic human psychology. No real change ever comes with complacency and relatively positive mood. Real change is scary because it affects people lives and challenges deeply-held beliefs, and so only comes when people can't stand their own anger and negativity about their own situation anymore. After all, why looking for change if you don't really have to?
When soccer moms turn their minivans into homes for their homeless families?
Down by the river.
Most will kill themselves first, rather than be viewed by their peers as the ones that didn't try hard enough and thereby failed at life. Is it better to say good riddance to that mindset? The vast majority are too institutionalized to believe there is any other way.
Being fashonable is definity a womans worst enemy and is used by the media to control them.
well there's 3 minutes of my life down the tubes. Don't you think we all know this by now Mr. Armstrong?
Live by the click, die by the click.
There will never be a revolution. Society is so divided that the more likely scenerio is an uncivil war. To think there will be a revolution in the U.S is pure folly.
Sectarian violence is more likely.
Pockets of carved out resistance.
Well controlled and monitored.
Sort of like the Hunger Games.
definitivly agree with you.
to get revolution & go down streets, average americans must 1st loose 330 pounds to be able to run....
It's nice to see some old "faces" on an article like this, which comes to ZH with the frequency of explosive diarrhoea in an ebola patient.
A revolution requires planning. It requires dedicated, fearless, focused individuals at its core who have access to resources and logistical equipment. It needs a manifesto so that everyone is on the same page. It needs secure communications, flexible command structures, soldiers, medics and even media to let the rest of the population know what is happening.
So the likelihood of something like that getting started under the noses of the NSA is almost zero. You're right about that - never mind the idiocracy, never mind the apathy, never mind the ignorance of the average fatso, it is the difficulty of building the structure of a revolution that is going to be a non-starter in the first place. It is a complete "Illusion of competence" to think that untrained individuals can somehow wing it and save the day.
A civil war - again with each side claiming the other to be the liar, just like the false dichotomy of the election campaigns, but with bullets instead of votes - is the more likely scenario. No matter how hard you think you are, you do not want to be in the middle of one, believe me.
Very true and I agree. The opposition enjoys all of the above advantages, including the ability to pick out, in secret, even the written thought on a forum and keeping an eye on those, while building up a 'profile' on everyone.
But, let me add this, they don't know when to stop and they do overstep their boundaries. When it becomes outrageous enough, well, the citizen will respond. Absolute proof of that, was the Bundy Ranch incident. I went there and it was amazing who showed up, without being called upon. They went because they had to. I truly believe that incident, was about one shot short, of starting the whole thing off.
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They will revolt in 2015.45
Gold will make a bottom in 2014.56... wait... 2014.64... wait... 2015.75....
The dollar will top in 2014.64... wait... 2014.85... wait.... 2015.92
Martin ArmWRONG more like it. Nutjob.
Are those star dates?
If your solution is "ban certain speech" you need to go back to the drawing board. The human cattle don't need to be protected from negative ads, they need to be taught voting is foolish.
WRONG! They need to be taught that... "Democracy is not for the dumb, uninformed, lazy, scared or disorganized." -Kirk
Those who fit this profile are sheep or socialists, who deserve to be milked, sheared and fleeced. For ultimately...
A People and Sheeple deserve the leaders they have.
Mr. Armstrong is going to be given a platform at Zerohedge to propose fantasy policy recommendations that could be used by the police state to put anyone they desired in prison? This is the 2nd time this week. I suppose I should have the discipline to just not click on his articles.
Pump up the flouride and add corn!
Only when the FHWC (Football Hot Wing Complex) goes dark.
You beat me to it.
"the Internet provides a greater proportion of real news compared to mainstream media."
Dude, it's ALL managed. Look at the trash on Huffpo. My local haunt on nj.com is brutally repressed by the "authorities" managing the messages; virtually real-time censorship, deleting of accounts, count-reductions of post likes, and my personal favorite - they let you post, and you can see your post, but nobody else can.
There is a very, very long path of tricks and lies that even smart people don't realize is happening. Revolution? We'll never get there.
Yep, and it's managed here as well. Zero Hedge has been taken ove by the matrix and is an outlet for misfits like us.
Not managed on www.gunsgrubandgold.com if you want true free speech, head on over, all are welcome.
Sorry, but the background makes it virtually unreadable, hard on the eyes.. Their is a reason ZH is black on a white background..
. . . . Zero Hedge has been taken ove[r] by the matrix . . . .
Yep, ZH is owned part and parcel by ABC Media, LTD.
This place is a friggin insane asylum.
This place relating to...This forum, or ZH? The U$A or some parts of it?? The whole world??? Please elaborate.
I for myself see lots of sane comments around here on ZH. Some nutters, yes, but most are reasonable and have some truth or logic to their arguments. But maybe that makes me a nutter then too ?
When the cable goes out and fast food stops flowing. As long as the colloseum games continue on the mezmerizer, the fattening sheeple will stay glued to their couch.
The capture of Eric Frein proves that our government is Omnipotent.
Who dares lift a finger against God?
Who else thinks the Frein event was theatre?
JIT for Halloween delivery.
Odd, it is like a non event, yet cost tens of millions of dollars.
1. Gov't incompetence
2. Crazed assailant
3. Lone wolf
I've heard this story already.
Waiting for him to hang himself next.
then "buried at sea"...
Omnipotent? Some whacked out kid, by his damn self even, evades FBI, PA LE and a host of how many other 3 letter agencies for weeks and that's supposed to impress?
There have been better organized Red Hat Society Cucumber and Mazola Orgies than the fucking fiasco that just ended.
It’s as if there’s no government of the people. The sovereignty of states has been destroyed, the connection between the people and the Congress has been severed, and the national political elections prove that absolutely the worse types of people are offered to voters who have no choice.
In short, it is a dictatorship controlled by a central government bent on breaking the people down and implementing a socialistic one-world empire.
Stalin ushered in his USSR notorious era of purge and terror in the mid-1930s with “Life is better, comrades, life is gayer.” It was devastation there and it’s devastation here.
In the end, there won’t be anything here for the 10% either. They, too, are part of a country that is being destroyed. And no lucrative income can be a substitute for personal and economic liberty.
Americans have to choose between the God of their fathers and Yellen. I choose God. Apparently Congress has chosen Yellen as its god.
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In short, it is a dictatorship controlled by a central government . . .
Good post. Slight correction though - "shadow government" (AKA "deep state") - not "central government".
+1 Nice to see an old face in the thread.
You had me till the "God of their fathers" part.
I know enough about those "Guy in the Sky" types to... "Smile & wave. Smile & wave, boys"
IMO, "Virtues of their fathers" fits better.
"You are what your know, you become what you believe."
An American, not US subject.
During the Great Depression of the 1930's there were bread lines, where people waited in line to get food at a soup kitchen.
Today bread lines have been removed with the help of technology; EBT cards are filled with Government money for Food Stamp participants to purchase food at local retailers.
Walmart is Americas' biggest retailer. The Walmart Super Center can be seen in the background. There are 3051 Walmart Super Centers in America as of October 2012.
http://demonocracy.info/infographics/usa/food_stamps/images/demonocracy-food_stamps-bread_line-400m-1-4_mile.jpg
7731 SNAP Adults per Month,
per Walmart Super Center
I went to one this morning to get some salad. Could hardly get around for all the shit in the aisles ready for the EBT recharge. That shit is amazing.
Go visit at 11:59 pm tonight for a real thrill. You just caught the warm-up band.
You know they raise prices for that.
23,587,281 per month just at WMT !?!
There will not be a revolution. It is too late for that.
The level of brainwashed public idiocy and food stamp consumption is truly awe inspiring.
Turn off the iPhone and go to sleep.
Just take in a 'casual' observation of people you see in everyday life. Closer yet, pay attention to the 'noise' of converstation/banter of people at a mall or other public venue where people gather in large numbers. Observe physical 'body language', driving habits, etc. These things in aggregate will tell the astute observer ALL he needs to know about the general state-of-mind, as well as a peek into what the ramifications would/will be in a time of Real Crisis in the U.S. Something that really hasn't happened in - how many Decades? And when it did, what were the social mores of the period as compared to today...? The future handed to you on a First Majestic silver platter, is yours to do with - or just sit there and 'hope' for something better...
Based on my observations of the things you describe, a real crisis would make Mad Max look like choir practice.
This nation was built by immigrants. Without immigrants it will no longer be built.
Remember Injun' Joe? The average American is now him. Manifest Destiny is a double-edged sword.
You honestly expect the central americans to build a nation? Friendo, you are swimming in a sea of delusion.
The reason that the US did not pursue Manifest Destiny and take over "south of the border" is because they openly discussed and debated about the people down there - not the European overlords, but the regular people - they felt could not be lifted up to the standard of the European. They felt that it would destroy the USA. How right they were.
Manifest Destiny 1.0 from the 1800s relied mostly on the military for conquest.
Manifest Destiny 2.0 relies mostly on the USD as the GRC for conquest.
The former was physical, the latter financial. We have replaced iron chains for financial chains in modern day slavery.
Americans are GREAT ARMCHAIR GENERALS. It was ALL GOOD whilst the rest of the world ate shit&died that you were protected from the carnage by your favorite NEWS channels but now it's time to rise up from that chair who KNOWS if another repeat series of honey boo boo will further delay the inevitable.
Gold bugs have been revolting for years for HIGHER prices
Blame anyone except yourself.
The tried and tested Rabbi defense.
Now what on God's green earth would make you believe that I want to spend more fiat to accumulate Gold?
Actually, as a Gold Bug, my desire is to see STABILITY in Gold Prices. I want to see a Gold STANDARD.
Only those whom wish to sell desire HIGHER prices. I do not want to sell.
Say What!? Gold is what you use when you do NOT have honest money.
When money is on a gold standard and stable, it's more useful to hold cash than gold -- as it is more convenient.
For the same reasons the reverse is true when money is not honest, nor stable. Bottom line: there is NO one size fits all solution for every occasion.
There is NO single variable solution for all seasons. People who promote that, are idiots or shills.
When people get hungry, or start dying of Ebola as Odumbshit plays usher to all the disease ridden foreigners.
Independent audit of the FED and the Pentagon would be a good starting place for this "revolution"..
Excuse me Mr. Armstrong, but you first. I have heard you repeat the “American are to ignorant to rise up” line a million times, and YES most American DO get it...at least the educated and you may term minority; but in case you haven't notice Amerkia’s cops are not like those in Hong Kong that nicely escort protestors to the correct staging area, they break heads! Not to mention no one has the time to take off to protest because they are to busy trying to make ends meet and Obozocare is no good if you're shot dead!
So please do us a favor, instead of writting another godforesaken article about how people should rise up, start the F’ing reveloution yourself and this time by example not just talk, step up or shut the F Up …we are tired of talk..talk..talk
if they weren't all ignorant, they would start revolting every day at 1PM, when the NY FED reverse repos their treasuries to their buddies who in turn immediately proceed to short government bonds of their own country. one quick look the 10yr chart this week shows you how blatant this process is.
heres the surprise the revolution is fully owned by the USG. they are destroying the very institutions you trust, banks, military, police, fire, and social services. Katrina created havoc because Bush defunded the army corps of engineers, whose work on the levee fell short. (on the other hand Bush proposed a trillion dollar fence along the border with Mexico, the trillion got spent, and the mexicans keep coming) some mistakenly think the fed is a gambling casino, encouraging speculation, you are the casino, and your savings (and your labor when you used to work) operates the casino. the fed is trying to break your bank, by doubling down on their failed policy. what do you think the fed owns (nothing) they are simply a middle man, a check kiting scheme, they use other peoples money to exert all sorts of financial and political change. (NWO) obama is the near perfect foil, because he pretends to care. thanks for the peace prize, bombs away! you ducklings all you want is a good neighborbood, a place to live, some food, and something to do all day besides watch cable and smoke dope. (most of you are tired of cable) i think i can say we're tired of your revolution obama, we just want to chill, without you fuckers tearing up the hillsides, switching economic chips and power, and occasionally dragging out children off to war, to keep us uneasy about our future. so i want you to look around there are no zombies, no ufos and no bigfoot in the backyard. the world (without their faux revolution) is very serene and could be that way for a thousand years of solitude, if they would only let us enjoy some of it.
"Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, and Maggie Thatcher... were at least ethical." --Martin Armstrong
He. Said. That. Not surprising, really, coming from someone whose sense of the ethical might lead him to commit securities fraud, wire fraud, commodities fraud, etc.
Is this that guy that BSes about super-cycles 60 year 20 year, 8 year cycles??? Typing on a typewrite from some prison??? Well damn, he's an x-con tellin me bout revolution? Everyone please get a grip and ignore this dude.
Revolution? Never.
Divided we stand, divided we fall.
Nothing changes until K Street burns.
A good dose of direct democracy will do wonders. Representative democracy is a joke.
people dont know what you're talking about, for example direct spending initiatives, instead of congress saying lets give the bankers a billion dollars you put a bill on the ballot. TARP would have been DOA if we had a direct democracy
A good dose of direct democracy will do wonders. Representative democracy is a joke.
Direct democracy is nothing more than mob-rule where 51% of the people could effectively lynch the other 49%.
You are partially correct in saying "representative democracy" is a joke but I would revise that statement to say that the way it is implemented currently in the USA is a joke - not the concept itself. The very purpose of "representative democracy" was to preserve the rights of minorities in government (not racial or ethnic minorities BTW). Money has totally fucked the system up.
the purpose of representative democracy was to create a system in which people who did not see or hear from their representative had access to the political system (have we heard from Ben Franklin this year, we better send him a letter) in the age of instant communication the old republic is an anachronism, the electoral college is a farce and the four year cycle is a joke. six years for really well healed encumbents. theres no reason most of the business cant be done on direct balloting, and certainly no reason that a president should not be subject to a vote of censure over certain policies or actions, and a vote of confidence could remove his authority, or remove him or her from office. there are plenty of lame reasons, but none of them hold water any longer, what Apple needs is an IMPEACHMENT APP, not a gay CEO
Your both right. I think Switzerland has the best idea. Sort of a half direct democracy. All changes to constitution and some law has to be a direct vote. On other issues referenda is easy and used often.
Had we had this system much of what is wrong would have never happened or if it did then we could only blame ourselves.
The hardest part,,, we have to deal with the election system itself being hijacked like it presently is in the ussa. In that case it doesn't matter what form of democracy you have. The u.s election and political systems are so corrupt I don't understand why anyone bothers to vote.
Once upon a time, there was a man who was a guard on the edge of the empire. His job was to sit in a tower with a rifle and shoot anyone who tried of climb over the wall and escape the empire.
One day the guard saw a man running toward the wall to escape.The guard's mind was filled with sudden turmoil. He thought "I can understand why this man wants to escape. We have no liberty here in this empire." He thought of not shooting the man in the back. The guard's mind raced with fear. He thought, what if I lose my job, what is the empire puts me in prison or kills me. What will happen to my wife and child? The guards first shot landed near the feet of the escaping man. Then with great certainty the guard said NO. I will not kill this man. By now the escaping man had thrown a blanket over the razor wire and is about to go over the top. The guards second shot rings out and misses the mans shoulder by inches as he goes over the top. The guard stands shaking and stunned as the commanding officers truck pulls up.He guard thinks, "This may be the last of me but at least I will die with a clear conscious." The commanding officer knows that the guard is a crack shot and should not have missed. The commanding officer asked the guard "What just happened here?" The guard stammers,I don't know , In my haste to pick up my rifle I think I knocked my sites out of whack. The commanding officer steps up, looks the guard straight in the eye, with a slight smile and a wink he says "Shit happens" and walks away without another word. Meanwhile in the next watchtower down the line, another guard has just watched the whole thing go down with his binoculars. When he sees the smile and the wink from the commanding officer, a chill runs down his spine and a smile comes to his face as he says, Holy Shit! And that ladies and gentlemen is revoutionYes this. I was in Berlin when a guy tried to escape from the east with a homemade balloon. I was riding down the street in the back of a deuce and a half just before dawn and saw something like a parachute hanging from a tree in the middle of the boulevard, with what looked like a man hanging from it. I yelled at my buddies, hey, is that a dude hanging in the tree? Anyway we got back from training that night and found out it was an East German who made a homemade balloon and sailed over the wall, however, he smashed into the tall buildings downtown and was killed. The balloon came down where I saw it, just before crossing back into the east.
It was evil over there, and people did crazy shit to get away. Coming to your town, city, village soon.
I was thinking of Berlin when I wrote it. I decided to leave it more universal because as you say coming soon...
All of us are going to have to decide , do we serve the empire and take our fellow man's liberty? Or do we give our fellow man his liberty and find that we have given ourselves liberty by doing so?
Thank you Prometheus.
Looking forward to it.
As long as people have some type of 'routine' to crutch with they will not revolt; not en mass anyway. Routines make people think they are important in status and purpose. Unless the power goes off for few months people will concern themselves with personal comfort and accumulation of useless crap; not sweeping social reform.
Why is Martin Armstrong on ZH anymore? Are they trying to self-destruct?
Why is Martin Armstrong on ZH anymore? Are they trying to self-destruct?
Apparently . . . the guy is totally clueless.
...And now this piece of shit article is featured
Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you. One good place to start is OUTLAW negative advertising. COMPEL political candidates to state what they stand for rather than calling their opponent a liar. Fuck you. Fuck you. Fuck you.
You total piece of shit. Can't you even think? Who the fuck do you think has the power to outlaw negative advertising?
Do you know anything about the Bill of Rights, you total fucking piece of shit. Do you know anything about freedom of speech, you mother-, sheep-, corpse-fucking idiot? Do you fucking know anything about anything?
We as a society have succumbed to narcissim. You, dear author, seem to have succumbed because the drivel you spout affirms the results of the surverys you cite: You are a total fucking idiot.
. . . . Jimmy Carter, Ronald Reagan, and Maggie Thatcher who at least stood for what they believed in regardless of what people thought . . . .
You have got to be FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!! Is this guy for real??? All three were controlled by the same "deep state" clowns that have controlled EVERY president since JFK and likely every PM in the UK since the 19th century. Everything they said or did was pre-scripted and approved in advance by the same group of assholes.
EDIT - President Eisenhower, as an obvious insider and in an apparent act of contrition, knew what was coming and tried to warn future generations in his farewell address in 1960 with regard to the military/industrial [/congressional - "congressional" was edited out of the final version of his address] complex - AKA "the deep state" - getting out of control and gaining too much power in the USA. We are paying a very dear price now in the US for not heeding his warning over the last 50+ years.
Few subjects are more important to the American culture and economy than the spectacular increase in minorities now showing up in the country’s school system.
It is disingenuous and incredibly misleading for Armstrong to claim that Americans “significantly miss the mark on the proportion of the population that is comprised of immigrants, guessing 32 percent against the true number of 13 percent.”
The AP reported recently that “for the first time ever, U.S. public schools are projected this fall to have more minority students than white students enrolled, a shift largely fueled by growth in the number of Hispanic children.
“White students are still expected to be the largest racial group in the public schools this year at 49.8 percent. But the National Education Statistics says minority students, when added together, will now make up the majority.”
It also must be remembered that U.S.-born children of immigrants are counted as American citizens in population and welfare statistics.
As Steven A. Camarota reported in April 2011: “A large share of the welfare used by immigrant households with children is received on behalf of their U.S.-born children, who are American citizens.”
In California alone in 2011, Medi-Cal funded a total of 73,133 births to illegal immigrants. The Constitution’s Fourteenth Amendment names these babies as American citizens when they are born and taxpayers not only pick up the tab for their prenatal care but pay for their pediatric services after they are born.
The rise of the welfare percentages also has had a powerful reducing effect on the tax base. In California, for example, the annual growth in state tax revenue had declined from 11% in 1950 to 7% annually by 2009. Yet, the top 1% of earners still account for half the state’s tax revenue and the top 10% for 80%. IOW, welfare is swamping the stability of the state.
http://www.heraldnet.com/article/20140807/NEWS02/140809371
http://cis.org/immigrant-welfare-use-2011\
“When will a revolution start?”
That’s only half the question; we should also ask, ‘Will it be a Judeo-Bolshevik, or American revolution… one that advances the cause of tyranny… or liberty?’
And THAT is the problem: no one seems to even be aware of the difference.
The fundamental difference is that the former is nothing more than wholesale destruction of rights, liberty and property; the latter makes rights and property more secure thru the process of redress of grievances.
We do have a choice in this matter: for, Americans have the power to redress any grievance that could be named – and thus, exercise sovereignty, and make men accountable for what they have done; but they (Americans) REFUSE to use that power. There are three main reasons for this failure: one is that they have no knowledge of such power; the second, they’ve been herded into a kind of impotent stupor by medication and indoctrination; the third, that they aid, benefit or were complicit in such evil.
There’s a remedy for all three of these failures: 1) learn, and use, the law and procedures of redress (full article); 2) follow a health regimen that has REDUCED – not slowed – my biological age 50 years; and, 3) see number one.
This health regimen has given me the coordination, health and physical condition of a professional athlete around the age of 20; I’m 70 years of age (for validation, video and webpage – each leads to the other).
Easy. The revolution starts the day the EBT cards no longer are loadable at the start of a given month by President Goebbels. When there is no longer any free shit, expect SHTF in the United States of Detroit.
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"provides a greater proportion of real news compared to mainstream media."
Riiiiight...have you seen "alternative" news over the last few years? It's a clusterfuck of bad conspiracy theory tripe that pans out to be bullshit most of the time. Be it social, geo-political and finance. EVERYONE has a plug or an angle. This goes for half the non- Pablum, maladroit fear blathering that spews all over here on the ZHedge as well. I don't know what to believe anymore. Even fact checking shit sends you down a rabbit hole filled with rabbit pellets. junk away...if you don't, how will I know that I am just a "sheeple"?
knew i wouldnt be disappointed
Revolutions never take place from the bottom up. Revolutions are always one elitist sociopath trying to use the people to take things away from another elitist sociopath. Neither sociopath cares how many people die in the process as long as they get what they want.
There is something wrong with that picture. People in general are able to work things out amongst themselves and are able to sacrifice in the short term for the long term benefit of the whole.
If the people are revolting then maybe they should take a shower.
I suspect that in the not-too-distant future we will wonder about what kind of insanity it was that allowed our forefathers to be goaded into trying to murder each other for the benefit if a some random sociopath.
Exactly . And whomever the military sides with, will win.
You have just defamed Samuel Adams.
And what’s more, you have defamed the most important nation for its achievements, morality and justice in the history of the world. Your descriptive philosophy is not new; it has been used for centuries to enable the tyrants to put down their citizens.
Because he was not a pauper and a tenant farmer, you would categorize George Washington as a “sociopath.”
Sam Adams has an answer for you:
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animating contest of freedom, — go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen!”
That Samuel Adams quote seems lengthy for a beer bottle label.
Good point. How about this one:
"It does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds"
- Samuel Adams
Cheers!
True enough. Our forefathers thought it was ok to kill each other ... or so we are led to believe by the sociopaths who wrote history.
Do you think that there is something wrong with defaming Samuel Adams or is it you contention that he is perfect ... same with Washington?
"Revolutions never start at the bottom". Really?
Tell that to Spartacus, Genghis, Napoleon, Adolf, Josip Broz, Fidel, Muammar, Saddam.
What's more interesting is the correlation that revolutions (hostile takeovers) that come from the working class are never blessed by the entitled, multi-generational ruling class.
When was the last time those two have seen their pussy? As far as revolutions, wont happen until americans have to live like the rest of the 3rd world in poverty.
Armstrong says
This idea assumes that the government has the authority to do this, but they do not, because of the first amendment.
I think people are tuning out of elections. Look at how little attention is paid to house of representitive elections! The entire house is up for reelection, and no news coverage, even very little ads. How many people check out their representitive's voting record to decide on their vote? Maybe a governor might make a difference, but house or senate, forget it.
Who do you trust when everyone's a crook?
Revolution calling...
Sorry, toddlers, but the passion behind this alleged upcoming revolution is not even close to the passion we felt during Nam. And, if the comments here by you toddlers who say nothing has changed since time immemorial (eg, You have got to be FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!!; Is this guy for real??? All three [ie, Carter, Reagan, and Thatcher] were controlled by the same "deep state" clowns that have controlled EVERY president since JFK and likely every PM in the UK since the 19th century), then our Hippie revolution during Nam failed.
What's the difference between my revolution and yours? We were not narcissists as you are. A narcissist revolution is typified by the individual screaming, "Look at me! Look at me! Look at me! Excuse me while I take 154,242 selfies. OK, back!!! (Sorry, can't post the 17 emoticons a narcissist would want to post) Look at me! I am so wonderful, fomenting revolution." There it ends. Once you toddler's narcisstic urge in scratched, you go back to taking selfies.
Reinstate the draft (which was the fuel for the 60s) and cut the EBTs and that'll change in a couple of nanoseconds.
Reinstate the draft (which was the fuel for the 60s) . . .
Absolutely! The draft is the #1 reason there were massive protests during the Vietnam era and today without the potential for the government to force the young people to fight and die in the banker's wars there will be no immediate revolution.
The Financial Repression of today's youth only serves as a passive incentive to enlist in the Armed Forces.
It is a de facto draft of the Nation's poorest.
Let's see...No jobs? You can always join the Army
The wealthy have no concerns as to thier children's blood being spilled in a Bankster's contrived war.
The reason that Vietnam was protested is that the protests were funded by the wealthy and broadcast on National Television due to the DEMOCRACY of the Draft.
It did not depend whether or not if you were well off or poor. Your birthdate was the deciding factor during the Draft Lotteries back in that day.
And how I remember dreading them.
Bingo.
i have to agree.
not only will there be no revolution, but the powers that be are ALREADY MAKING PLANS for how to channel dissent that cannot be distracted with video games.
there exist standing plans for spying upon and then infiltrating ----every major group of dissidence that ORGANIZES.
as for disorganized groups; i.e. ----the blogosphere and the internet in general. ----the powers that be in the UK and US are already organizing themselves to put the kybosh on the internet and ensure those who use it have little effect in spreading 'truth'.
any so called 'revolution' that might happen in the next 30 years will be fake.
Spying and infiltrating -
Al Sharpton reported as being an FBI informant wasn't enough? All groups have been infiltrated and spied upon.
Eric Frein had it right, go it alone. $10,000,000 later he was caught. But 1,000 Eric Frein’s = equal 1,000 $10,000,000 expenses.
To start capturing 1,000 Eric Frein’s local government is looking at a tab of about $10,000,000,000 or more.
that is precisely right. there can be no revolution , only a slow deterioration of the state by destroying the financial stabiltiy of the u.s.
however, the end resutl of such a situatoin is in no way historically guaranteed to result in a more 'just' social order.
likely, it will result in a less just social order where the oligarchs have a more brutal approach towards controlling the capo class ( cops and politicians) and the miliatary is given free reign to lay waste to the country and loot .
the peasants always lose in history. their suffering is the twisting dialectic navigated by the elite.
any so called 'revolution' that might happen in the next 30 years will be fake.
Dead right, teslaberry. In fact, our overlords love this talk of revolution. They know all it'll do is deflect enough attention away from reality that they can proceed to do their corrupt things without fear of being attacked where it hurts.
. . . then our Hippie revolution during Nam failed . . .
Your "hippie revolution" accomplished exactly what Nam guy (beside producing some killer drugs)? If you think the protests forced the US out of the war in Vietnam you are seriously misguided. That effort may have played a good part but if the guys pulling the strings wanted to continue the war there it would not have ended in '75 like it did. BTW - not all posts on this site are written by "toddlers" either.
Who was prosecuted for the Kent State shootings?
"Peace with Honor" Remember?
The Rev will start in Germany.
Absent the zany, burlesque sturm und drang in my post (sometimes, there's a lot), I condense: There was a lot more passion during Nam than there is today, but our revolution failed; iow, it's hard to see how the current half-assed one will succeed.
Instead of preaching hollow, sterile, and futile revolution, we need to engage them on their home turf. Absent that, hope that the sheep will realize who the bad guys really are when the great crash happens.
Yeah, I was alive then too and it was bullshit. Most guys went to that shit to get laid, including the Joo leaders in the SDS etc. It was all about the pussy number one, and cowards who were afraid to go to Nam.
Shit who cares what the wars for, get you some combat training and get paid for it. What's not to like?
Cowards whom were afraid to go to Nam?
You are so fucking narcissistic as you think that it was that.
Personally I was never up for the draft. I was too young. I turned 16 in 1975.
But I dreaded them because it was my Older Brothers whom would be called up and dying.
I happened to love my brothers. Is that fucking alien to you, not being able to care for another?
You want to talk cowardice with me? Why don't you come out and go hunting with me?
I live at 12223B Woodside Avenue in Lakeside, CA, USA.
Bring your guns.
Don't look for fights, Tall Tom. Moe was being unkind, and a bit over the top; but he was not being unfair. You were too young to be there. So, I can make an allowance that your image of what went on has been shaped by people who want you to think as you evidently do now.
I began college before Vietnam, and graduated at the height of it. 7 days after graduation, I was in the Army. I got my ticket punched a couple of times over there. I stayed in the service for more than 7 years.
Back in the day, there was a college student deferment called "2S". It meant that you would't get drafted until you finished college. After the war went big time -about 1967, as I recall- "2S" deferments were being extended past college all the way through grad/Law/medical schools. WE began to refer to "2S" as "too smart" and "too scared". And there was a lot of truth to the second part.
When I was a college freshmen, male students had to wear jackets and ties to class. The girls wore skirts or dresses that were long enough, so when they sat down, there was still a lot left to a boy's imagination.
Over the next 4 years civic virtue, as well as civil behavior, was trashed. Everyone started to dress in grubby jeans. Haircuts were the mark of someone to be condemned. And any/everything that was worth a damn was despised. The smell of pot was obvious in open areas of the campus grounds.
One of the most enticing aspects about these worthless, self-serving "lovefests" (which were really filled with hate for anyone with a sense of history, respect for free speech, and readiness for serious debate) were the number of girls who were ready to fawn all over some guy who would condemn his country and refuse service to his country.
That was the beginning of the "ME" generation. You can blame us (or credit us) for everything that has happened since.
And at the end of all this chest puffing, or hand wringing, a shit ton of gooks and white kids died.
At this point, what difference does it make?
Internet bully. WTF are you going to do? Shoot me? Gunfight in the woods between a guy sitll crying that his brothers might have been drafted? I JOINED the fucking army at 17 DURING Viet Nam. Unlike you, I don't shoot animals. My hunting experince is hunting and kiliing or wounding humans in woods, jungles mountains and deserts, as well as extensive time in built up and urban areas.
You are a cunt.
Yess!!! We need more passion (i.e. less rationale) and everything will be alright! <facepalm>
"Reagan, Thatcher, Carter...at least stood for what they believed in." Two out of three went mad and the third will never do enough penance without getting his concommitant amount of ego gratification.
And that defines "ethical"?
As an arbiter of 'conviction', I truly believe you've been duped.
A shit sandwich is still a shit sandwich
nothing ethical at all, just another sandwich with lettuce and cheese on the turd part
yum
" the Internet provides a greater proportion of real news compared to mainstream media."
This is what took me to revolt! I was aware of much of what the government and media were playing at, but without the internet I could never have confirmed by worst fears. So the number one tool is the internet. You cut out the MSM, you cut out the government and corporate liars. Though they are now hard at work trying to infuse themselves into the net and get their message out on all blogs and news sites. So far to little effect!
Americans revolt? Never. To fat, to lazy and too stupid. Junk food and Public education, add in the media and TV and you get clueless zombies.
The Financial Realities will create the Revolution.
People do not revolt until they become hungry.
When the United States Government can no longer afford to pay for the EBT Benefits, and stop feeding those masses (pun intended), then Revolution and anarchy is really only SEVEN MEALS AWAY.
And the day when the USA defaults and can no longer "print food" is approaching a lot quicker than you can imagine.
Just add in a pandemic and watch the shitstorm begin.
(Isn't that funny as that Ebola has disappeared from the group conciousness recently? Either it is really good news or terrible. That remains to be seen.)
I'm not sure that people only revolt when hungry. Perhaps people revolt for ideological reasons, or because they feel trapped and/or enslaved by bureaucrats or kings.
Maybe people revolt because they're on the wrong side of the power structure and want a chance to thrive?
Think of our revolution: I don't think there were hungry people involved. Just pissed ones.
I have a feeling that most of the ZHers here will think the revolution isn't needed when a certain black man in a certain office is no longer in that office. Suddenly they'll think Murca is great again now that a white guy is in office. I dunno, just a hunch.
And you would be wrong, but keep beating that dead horse. Since that's the only vapid argument you have.
Well, hey, that validates all the unconstitutional bullshit then. Carry on, moron.
One thing for sure about Martin - he can lay down some stink bait!
Unless I am missing something, there must be some full, unabridged, version of Tsu Zu's "Art of War" with missing chapter which goes something like this:
"Arm your adversary so he develops a sense of false superiority" (Read: billions of hollow points, state of the art protection gear and surveillance system funded by tax payers).
Not trying to be sarcastic or even critical, just pointing useless idea that such large and divided society can mount to anything like outright revolution and to counter militarized machine that it finaced. What I see is, maybe, some local skirmish, personal vendetta here and there and that's all.
Movie link (Peasant uprising 1573) does not have an English subtitles, they are unnecessary. Based on true event, one of many European peasant uprisings, it goes, as ALL of them did:
"Peasant's suffering...Revolt...Initial success...whatever...final battle (with betrayal, off course)...Punishment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27dp4T4Ep0Y
One guy who only played army tied up hundreds of cops for weeks and cost them tens of millions of dollars. Now think about that happening all over the country with all these fucking deer hunters with scoped rifles and actual combat experience.
1. I am not a troll.
2. Both of you "ignored" my Tsu Zu uvertire.
@ Graph:
"Tell who your friends are and I will tell you who you are."
Troll does not write more than two paragraphs.
Troll inserts "bricks" of copied text, it sucks!
I think many here know how to identify a troll.
You wrote six paragraphs with concise and clever text!
In my concept you are not a Troll.
Do not spin your head with negative or positive, has personality, always write what you believe to be authentic and true.
Others fuck them!
The truth hurts but always prevails, whoever it hurts.
:-)
Graph, is your avatar a pic of Tito?
now he is going to tie up the legal system for years...
The serious mistake that all supporters of the central government tyranny make (and that includes the trolls who discount the chance of revolution) is to identify the obstacles to revolution (government spying and government weaponry) and completely ignore the building anger of American citizens who will not accept slavery. IOW, to take the current situation and pretend that the size and power of the central government will stay the same for the future but the people who would revolt will also stay the same is erroneous. The latter will increase exponentially.
You must look beyond the present as trends magnify and the people turn not only against the government but seize the government’s ammunition to use against it. This is exactly what Patrick Henry did; he took the armory.
For instance, in the state of New Jersey, there are 1,000,000 gun owners. Will those firearms be used in a revolution and how does a corrupt tyrannical government intend to transfer the use of those guns to its side?
Trolls today are deliberately trying to tamp down a legitimate grassroots' response to a central-bank imposed slavery.
Hmmmm. I guess some sort of plague or world war is in order then to put a little halt on that exponential increase.
Patrick Henry never took an armory.
What he did take was a note for 330 pounds in leiu of the 15-1/2 barrels of powder taken from the Williamsburg Magazine by the Crown.
Governor Dunsmore thought it was prudent not to leave it lying about although it was not, strictly speaking, the Kings property.
His wisdom was well founded. He skedaddled a week after the Gunpowder Incident in the middle of the night to a British ship.
"Henry put his revolutionary words into practice when he led hundreds of armed Virginians to march on Williamsburg to demand that Royal Governor Dunmore return gunpowder he had confiscated from the armory to hamper the gathering militia. Though Dunmore would officially denounce Henry and his men as dangerous and treasonous, he soon fled to the safety of a British warship. Dunmore would eventually concede total victory to Henry and reimburse the colonists the value of the munitions taken from them. By August, Patrick Henry had become a Colonel of the First Virginia Regiment and Commander-in-Chief of the Virginia Militia."
Good reminder that the political/social situation is not static, and that the fear of the federal government we now have may crystallize into can't-take-it-anymore revolutionary anger.
As a business owner, I've just about had it with bureaucrats, stupid laws, regulations and taxes. I'm afraid to hire. AFRAID. Not of the financial requirements of adding employees, but of the legal morass and rules that hiring entails. Right now, I may just move part of it out of the country.
That sort of anger -- mine -- which is entirely directed toward the government, is the beginning of a revolutionary trend. I'm not alone. If the government makes it nearly impossible to innovate, grow and thrive in this country, and if one doesn't wish to leave the country, then fighting the government may be the only answer!
And that's revolution, folks.
The aim of the Fed and its parasitic multinational corporations is one big company store which it owns and the masses owe their soul. And this means your small business has to go.
Competition, said John D. Rockefeller, is a sin.
And the last time I looked, America was not on the road to a moral high ground. Monopolies do not mean better service, cheaper prices, greater innovation; they mean slavery. Perhaps the most significant monopoly in our modern world is the U.S. central bank.
It was put together by competitors, National City Bank, JP Morgan, the Rothschilds, Warburgs and Rockefellers…the money trust responsible for one-fourth of the wealth in the world…and their chief aim: Monopoly, the removal of competition.
The structure of the Fed is pure monopoly. Writes G. Edward Griffin in “The Creature From Jekyll Island”:
Quote : "Unless I am missing something, there must be some full, unabridged, version of Tsu Zu's "Art of War" with missing chapter which goes something like this"
You're probably thinking of Sun Tsu. Tsu Zu was the little girl with the flower petals in "It's A Wonderful Life".The last organic revolution was the Whiskey Rebellion of 1791.
All other revolutions have been orchestrated.
No revolution will occur unless the food supply is interrupted.
If the food supply is interrupted…..
Who will feed the revolutionaries? If government feeds them, they’re called soldiers. Government has the ‘power’ to send soldiers into our homes and take our food.
And it is from those homes where the food was taken, that revolutionaries are born. You see the same thing with US drone attacke - which are the best recruiting tool for new terrorists, after taking out civiilians, parents, relatives, etc. Northern Ireland fought for decades - no one was sure why - except that twenty years before somebody killed somebody else and now their progency want revenge.
The IRA always knew what they were fighting for.
Irish Independence for ALL Ireland.
Shays?'? Rebellion was an armed uprising that took place in Massachusetts (mostly in and around Springfield) during 1786 and 1787, which some historians believe "fundamentally altered the course of United States' history." [1][2] Fueled by perceived economic terrorism and growing disaffection with State and Federal governments,[1] Revolutionary War veteran Daniel Shays led a group of rebels (called Shaysites) in rising up first against Massachusetts' courts, and later in marching on the United States' Federal Armory at Springfield in an unsuccessful attempt to seize its weaponry and overthrow the government.[2] Although Shays' Rebellion met with defeat militarily, it bore fruit in forcing the Federal government to reconsider the extent of its own powers at the U.S. Constitutional Convention, and by drawing General George Washington out of retirement en route to his Presidency, among influencing other changes to America's young democracy.[1][2]
Although - in the past and still to some extent today - often characterized as a revolt of poor, Western Massachusetts farmers embittered by land seizures and bankruptcies, recent research into the lives of Shays Rebellion's participants suggests that Shaysites came from diverse socio-economic backgrounds (from the wealthiest to the poorest families in the nation), professions, and locales - and also that their grievances extended beyond the specifics of Massachusetts' economic situation to issues ranging from rule by a faraway elite, cronyism and corruption at influential levels of government, and regressive tax policy.[3]
Uh uh - nope! amerikaans are dumb shits.
They thrive on the senseless MSM and pop culture. That's why it's there and keeps getting more and more idiotic. It panders to stupid people.
The only way you're going to get your revolution is if you have a bare-crotched Brittney Spears lead it on an under-the-skirt iPhone app and get Kim Kardashian to tattoo the revolution's manifesto on her gigantic ass, then jiggle her assets in front of the TV camera. And these two ditzo sluts are so damn stupid and their handlers are so greedy you'll have to script every word and action for them or else the revolution will be hijacked and turned into a rebel lotion made from their "DNA" that they hawk for $75 bucks a bottle online.