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The Story Changes: Ebola Is Now "Aerostable" And Can Remain On Surfaces For 50 Days
Submitted by Michael Snyder of The End of the American Dream blog,
When it comes to Ebola, the story that the government is telling us just keeps on changing. At first, government officials were claiming that it was very difficult to spread the Ebola virus. Some of them were even comparing it to HIV. We were given the impression that we had to have “direct contact” with someone else’s body fluids in order to have any chance of catching the virus. But of course that is not true at all. Now authorities are admitting that Ebola is “aerostable”, that it can be “spread through droplets”, and that it can remain on surfaces for up to 50 days. That is far different information than we have been getting up until this point. So that means when they were so confidently declaring that they know exactly how Ebola spreads they were lying to us.
On October 24th, a 33 page document was released by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, and in that document it is admitted that Ebola is “aerostable”. WND was one of the first news outlets to report on this…
The information was contained in a 33-page report released Oct. 24 by the Defense Threat Reduction Agency, the Department of Defense’s Combat Support Agency for countering weapons of mass destruction.
The agency report states “preliminary studies indicate that Ebola is aerostable in an enclosed controlled system in the dark and can survive for long periods in different liquid media and can also be recovered from plastic and glass surfaces at low temperatures for over 3 weeks.”
The report says the government is seeking technologies for the “rapid disinfection” of Ebola, including an aerosol version of the virus.
“The technology must prove effective against viral contamination either deposited as an aerosol or heavy contaminated combined with body fluids,” reads the solicitation document.
You can view the document for yourself right here.
So is there any difference between “aerostable” and “airborne”?
That is a very good question.
Meanwhile, the CDC has finally come out and publicly admitted that Ebola “is spread through droplets”.
In other words, it can be spread by a cough or a sneeze.
On the CDC website, it now says the following…
“A person might also get infected by touching a surface or object that has germs on it and then touching their mouth or nose.”
Well, that certainly does not sound like “direct contact” to me.
And once someone has coughed or sneezed, the virus can live on a surface for a very long time.
In fact, authorities in the UK now tell us that Ebola can survive on a glass surface for up to 50 days…
The number of confirmed Ebola cases passed the 10,000 mark over the weekend, despite efforts to curb its spread.
And while the disease typically dies on surfaces within hours, research has discovered it can survive for more than seven weeks under certain conditions.
During tests, the UK’s Defence Science and Technology Laboratory (DSTL) found that the Zaire strain will live on samples stored on glass at low temperatures for as long as 50 days.
All of this directly contradicts what the CDC website has been telling us…
“To get Ebola, you have to directly get body fluids (like pee, poop, spit, sweat, vomit, semen, breast milk) from someone who has Ebola in your mouth, nose, eyes or through a break in your skin or through sexual contact.”
It turns out that is not even close to the truth.
And even as Obama boldly proclaims that there will not be an Ebola pandemic in the United States, the actions that his administration is currently taking suggest otherwise.
For example, we have just learned that the federal government has ordered 250,000 hazmat suits and is sending them to Dallas…
A manager with a major shipping company has exclusively revealed to Infowars that the U.S. government has ordered 250,000 Hazmat suits to be sent to Dallas, the location of the first Ebola outbreak in the United States.
The manager of the shipping company proved his credentials to Infowars by providing a photo ID and sending a verified email from the company account, but wishes to remain anonymous due to understandable fears that he could be fired for revealing the information.
“I just learned we have been asked to ship 250,000 HAZMAT suits to Dallas, TX. for the US Government. Again this is happening today, we are pulling these suits for the US Government to Dallas, TX,” states the individual, who manages the drivers who work for the shipping company.
Why in the world would the Obama administration buy so many hazmat suits if everything was under control?
It doesn’t make sense.
Is this Ebola outbreak much more of a potential threat than they are telling us?
Insurance companies sure seem to think so. In fact, many of them are now specifically excluding Ebola from their policies…
Remember the promise of universal health care with Obamacare, with no refusal for ‘pre-existing conditions’? It looks like your insurance company may not have to cover you if you get Ebola. U.S. and British insurance companies have begun writing Ebola exclusions into standard policies to cover hospitals, event organizers, and other businesses vulnerable to local disruptions.
While it is estimated that expenditures to treat the original Dallas Ebola patient, Thomas Eric Duncan, were approximately $100,000 an hour (though he passed anyway), it looks like insurance companies won’t be footing the bill.
President Obama originally refused to set up travel restrictions in and out of West Africa, too, even though the governments latest scare tactics and the CDC’s ineptitude have resulted in insurance companies creating new policies which exclude Ebola care. Renewals will also become costlier for companies opting to insure business travel to West Africa or to cover the risk of losses from quarantine shutdowns at home.
The American people deserve the truth.
I can understand the desire to keep people calm, but giving the public a false sense of security isn’t going to do anyone any good, and it might end up making this crisis much, much worse.
It is important for people to know how easily this virus spreads so that they can take appropriate measures to protect themselves and their families. Since June, approximately 400 health workers have caught this virus, and about 230 of them have died. These workers take extreme precautions to avoid getting Ebola. If this virus did not spread easily, this would not be happening.
If our politicians and the mainstream media are not going to tell us the truth, then we are going to have to keep one another informed.
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The public doesn't think. That's the problem.
Yeah but the problem here is that the "experts" are lying, half-bright pieces of shit.
We know that Obama doesn't know his ass from a bunsen burner but that's not really his job. But there is no excusing Frieden. Fauci too has acted the idiot for weeks on end, but last weekend he appeared and made some intelligent, educated sounds with his mouth. I note that both have disappeared since the invisible Ron Klain was immaculated.
And I saw the UCLA hospital staff bragging about their ebola drill three weeks in, STILL wearing just face shields and not full coverage because that was still the CDC standard at that point - changed three days later. But were NONE of them smart enough or responsible enough to act on their own in advance of that? OMG.
If ebola were like 2% more transmissible than it now appears it is, we'd all be dead about now ... except that then it would probably have wiped out Africa and half of mankind a dozen times in the last thousand years, too, and apparently that has never happened - at least not in the last 10,000 years or more. Maybe it *did* happen a few times earlier than that. That's biology for ya.
"We know that Obama doesn't know his ass from a bunsen burner"
I'm not so sure Odds are that his ass has carnal knowledge of bunsen burner type objects
Why do you think Klain has been quiet ?
No lawyer is going to make public statements that will used against him in the near future.
His silence, in particular, is the signal to panic.
Oct. 31, 2104 11:47pm EDT "New CDC confusion over Ebola as it deletes warning that virus can spread through coughs and sneezes from its website"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2815903/New-CDC-confusion-Ebola-...
Ebola Czar Ron Klain is speaking quite loudly through his politicized actions, rather than his words. He is obviously behind the decision to remove the reference to "droplets can spread ebola" from the CDC website.
The man is a career political sycophant and cannot allow the masses to panic before the mid term elections.
The bio-weapons research really didn't get cooking until the 50's so mankind was reasonably safe.
Mother Nature has less incidents of 'Whoops' than humans do.
And Govt. 'research' grant recipients even less.
What the fuck can we expect from the pricks who tells us, "It's not quarantine, it's controlled monitoring".
I still rate my chances of getting ebola within the next 12 months at 1 in 5.
They say potato, we say "Looks more like a camel with 3 humps to me. Oh, it was supposed to be a Unicorn? Gosh. So why'd you call it a potato? You didn't? You called it a potatoe? Oh good."
Part of the problem, no?
Well said. If it sounds truthy, hype it. MAXIMUM CONFUSION. PERPETUAL EMERGENCY. I'm waiting for them to announce that the spread was accelerated by 'climate change' and the cure is carbon tax.
I heard a homeland security guy on the radio yesterday. He said one of the things we can do to control obola is to control illegal immigration - by using a employer security check. Thats right, this guy was pushing another RealID we all have to submit to in order to find out if we are illegal.
Not a new idea, just using current fear mongering to justify another encroachment on freedom. Like the carbon tax and the "by-the-mile" car tax, TPTB have tried for years to increase the control grid to get us one step closer to their NWO police state dream.
They know damn well who is here illegaly and who is a risk of transmitting diseases. And they won't do anything to stop it. Similar to the airport naked body scanners & granny groping, they look for excuses to make money for the corrupt oligarchs and make the innocent citizen's life more difficult while ensuring the original problem remains forever unsolved.
Fucking idiots, all
The new ones don't work.
There are no jobs
They're EBT kings and queens, FFS
ReaLID my ass.
Barry doesn't pass RealID
Your problem is that once you wake from one nightmare, you enter into a greater one. It's the loss of control your freaked out about, and no is looking or gives a shit, your feeling useless, a nobody, used up, and could very soon lose your way, be all alone, out of fuel, out of reason. and if you keep this up for 3 days, you will look as hidious as you sound.
Depends on your definition of "is". IS it risk on, or IS it risk off?
Maybe Bill can reassure us.
50 days on the salad bar? Did Barry reach over the sneeze guard at Chipolte before or after hugging the Dallas Ebola nurse?
Hate to ruin the doom narrative, but if it was really airborne there would be 50 million cases in Africa and thousands in the U.S.
There will be fifty million cases in Africa.Around May of 2015.
Nothing, I repeat nothing , is going to stop that now.Last May possibly it could
have been stopped, now the math of the disease is unstoppable.
Tick tock.
Only proving how truly racist this disease is. Its just hatin on black folk. Tell me again how many white folk have died so far?
Around 100 I believe.They were all fruit bat afficianodo's on a west african bush meat tour.
well, one can either parrot/mock the current party-lines, or do some research for deeper information before forming opinions,
there is copious amounts of "information" to sift through "out there" if one seeks to be informed - I like to investigate a few differing angles, and then watch how the story plays out over time. . .
C.A., neither link works. Both have apparently been deleted?
good to see you Clashfan. . .
I just clicked the link embedded, and it still works for me.
but, if you're referencing the post's links - have to research 'em separately, but here's the PNAC one referred to in the first embed link, and here's a link to the the "Armed Forces Journal" piece mentioned, containing this quote:
best wishes!
With all the hype, you'd think there wouldve been more than two infection cases here...both of them had direct contact with the same person...
Yea but 50 days on glass suggests it has nuclear properties, and possibly came from a different source. And I only graduated from the 6th grade.
good school..
where was it?
Pinnacle peak, right next to pikes peak. High altitude classes cause the air was so thin, we only had 3 people our class, pikes had 6 over there so they won most of the sporting events.
Between all the deaths in my family from swine flu, avian flu and Y2K, I'm not sure we can survive another plague of that magnitude.
I'm praying the Ebola scare is a false alarm, but don't have much hope given the accuracy of the earlier calls.
Every single person I know died back in 2012 when the Mayan calendar ended.
Luxury...
Great, droplets, was in a major metropolitan area today with people sneezing.
Good thing we sent 4,000 troops down there to do something.
I think the number was closer to 3k, but whatever... Question: has anyone seen any (recent) media coverage of those troops? If yes, will you share a link?
My tin foil hat is getting all tingly, suggesting they may not be deployed as advertised.
I am seriously wondering if it was cover for pulling out the bio weapon lab gear the alt media has been suggesting was there.
What the hell else are they there for? There presence is at best a feel good story otherwise.
No sarc on this one.
very plausible.
also acknowledged is how handy a race-specific killer-infection would instantly galvanise the publix to defend themselves from each other, while allowing the system to continue hollowing out the core, as has been done for well over a century now.
a perfect storm, just like their "aerosoled skies" bring.
What about really wet farts? Has anyone heard anything on this yet? Does it have a tell-tail odor that would give a person some advance warning. Does it move faster than the speed of smell?
Only the blood red ones are contagious.
You are supposed to fart into your elbow now.
Well, that's all fine and dandy but what about people who can't tell their ass form their elbows?
Huh?
Think about that one.
Let's turn it over to the CDC to take care of.
So, if Dr. Spencer sneezed or coughed while he was on the subway, how many millions of people have been potentially exposed to the virus in the past week? The true panic will begin when a newly diagnosed patient is asked, "Have you travelled to West Africa recently? Have you had contact with a person known to be infected?" and answers no to both questions.
Which also means that if he were an ISIL (or whatever they're calling them today, friend or foe to be determined) agent, he could weaponize this shit by flinging boogers all over Manhattan.
And that, my dear friends is where this clusterfuck of politically correct propaganda proportions has delivered us.
No fucking progress whatsoever, a complete FUBAR and lives at risk, real or not.
Idiots. We're not only surrounded by, but led by idiots.
AND NO. The CDC has no fucking excuse about this, because this is exactly what they've been funded for for years and years. One simple fucking task. To say it's a hemorrhagic filovorus, one of the most deadly pathogens known to man and amazingly transmissible, seal the borders, quarantine the shit out of people and treat this like the possible natural disaster that it is.
FFS people. This is Mother Nature doing her very best to eradicate the cancer known as humanity that it well can. And Mom Nature don't lose at this shit
Mother Nature? I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the author is Big Brother after all (considering their track record).
Big Brother, Mother Nature, what difference does it make? They both hate humanity.
Ebola so horney. Ebola love us long time. Ebola want to party.
5 dolla yu, cheap,cheap
"...This is Mother Nature doing her very best to eradicate the cancer known as humanity that it well can..."
Scientists: Humans are 'an infection' and Ebola is Earth's immune response to consume all the human 'meat'
...In a sense, the earth is mounting an immune response against the human species. It is beginning to react to the human parasite, the flooding infection of people, the dead spots of concrete all over the planet, the cancerous rot-outs in Europe, Japan and the United States, thick with replicating primates [i.e. humans], the colonies enlarging and spreading and threatening to shock the biosphere with mass extinctions.
Perhaps the biosphere does not "like" the idea of five billion humans [written in 1994]. Or it could also be said that the extreme amplification of the human race, which has occurred only in the past hundred years or so, has suddenly produced a very large quantity of meat, which is sitting everywhere in the biosphere and may not be able to defend itself against a life form that might want to consume it...
Considering that the earth is a water planet, perhaps it's time to give the dolphins a crack at running things.
"So long, and thanks for all the fish!"
You & me ain't nothin but mammals so let's do it like they do on the Discovery Channel
Or maybe, in this case, people should just stop going near let alone eating fruit bats and wild monkeys and/or living in or near extremely stressed and extremely biodiverse ecosystems which are home to the majority of "new" pathogens and parasites - they've discovered at least half a dozen "new" viruses that have made the jump from animals to humans in the past few decades.
How does that phrase go ... "don't do stupid shit".
Good Luck with stopping the stupid shit.
They are having animal sex tourism issues in the Netherlands.
I guess they have barnyard whore-houses where johns pay to ride bare back.
You can imagine the Zoo\Bio\Sicko mutated bugs coming out of that place!
Oh No.
You Have Got to be Fucking Kidding Me.
Are you serious?
That's downright fucked up.
I have a business plan
Add camels and sheep, market to the Arab communities.
Presto, Wealtho!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2352779/Bestiality-brothels-spre...
And/Or
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/weird-news/denmark-moves-to-ban-bestia...
And/OR
http://rt.com/news/195380-denmark-ban-bestiality-animals/
I was almost fully cappd on my Travelling Fruit Bat Petting Zoo plan when the Ebola broke bad.
I had the Mango vendors lined up for the Mango Concessions, I have 67 Bats! Trained Bats! Real good with Kids!
Now they don't have a home... I am sitting on 20000 Cases of rotting mangos and a trailer park full of drunken, oversexed carnival barkers.
Do you think there is a Government program I could apply for?
Maybe the USDA?
Maybe they could trasport the bats back to Uganda? I know the state dept goes there often?
Fuck! I should have bought those Llamas!
Can you Help Me? Pleez!
/Sarc
For a small processing fee, paid in advance,I can hook you up to 100's of millions.
HRH Prince Wheresmycash.
Nigerian Oil Minister.
That would really cut into the vaguely pubescent English girl trade.
Oh great! Sneezing is flung boogers!
And the good part has yet to arrive, the slow withdrawl symptoms as the body no longer gets is reccomended dose of magic, the throat or nose start to drip or dry, the mess only gets worst as reailty hits hard and I struggle to keep from getting a fever. Cause soon as i do I won't have a friend in the world, nor will I want one.
The powers that be will say he must be mistaken just like they said the first Dallas nurse must not have followed protocols. And they will be believed.
I've been wondering about a hypothetical situation in which a pre-symptomatic infectee suffers an accidental injury resulting in heavy bleeding. Would the viral load in the blood be enough to present a danger to EMT's or any passerby that tries to help them? Anyone know where the virus would be most concentrated in the early stages?
Blood.
I'm thinking he should bring a roll of visqueen and treat the bleeder through that.
Also, 6 inch platform boots will keep you up out of the blood worms.
I'm also thinking: Its gonna be a real shitty time to get hurt if this Ebola gets going.
He thinks your one pick away from a faucet.
United States GDP growth scam. Hazmat suits hit 110% revenue sales growth. 1% over projected forecast. Don't we look like fucking the slick con artist of the world? Zionist need a bullet in their heads. This is not even a economy, brain dead bullshit.
It's because a vaccine will be available in the near future, so they have to pump this boogey man up. Get you good and scared, step right up an git yer shot. yessir indeed!
GSK - Glaxosmithkline
Ebola nearly tops the chart of viral mutation rates.
This isn't Rabies (which hardly mutates at all).
see chart:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-21/ebola-2014-mutating-fast-season...
Whether is becomes a pandemic or not, they're gonna milk this cow for all it's worth. That's my point...and yes GSK is pimping their vaccine already. By their own estimation, they'll only be able to produce 200k doses by April (or Q1 2015) will it be enough, who knows...
Can't argue with ya there.
They never let a crisis go to waste.
But, just like flu shots, it may as well be a placebo.
P. T. Barnum will once again be proven right.
I was in a wal mart today....
Noticed a very brightly colored display of "nutritional supplements" in the pharmacy area.
Called Airborn.
That's some sick shit.
(I still think its a hoax in the US.)
Here it is:
http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-airborne-i300775
"(I still think its a hoax in the US.)"
"wal mart"?
if I was a dastardly evil-doer, and I wanted to create mass panic via airborne "infections" I'd turn some shit loose in a popular big-box store "air filtration" system, a few carefully selected around the nationstate. . .
then sit back and watch the panic with glee.
keep on shoppin' amrka!
Do the math.
25 million new cases a day by the time they can produce 200 k doses of a maybe effective vaccine
for the current strain.
IF the ebola has not already mutated into a variant that the vaccine cannot immunize against, a
very big if with all the potential hosts along the way.
Isolating Africa is the ONLY option left at this point.Its way too late for anthing else.
TPTB are not going to though, so hedge/prep accordingly. Good luck, we are all going to need it.
known bio-weapons lab in Sierra Leone.
known bio-weaponry targeting particular "types" of humans.
known vaccinations program funded by known billionaire foundations, with admitted population reduction agendas.
known ongoing resource grab on African continent, ramped up by China entering the competition.
dunno, but one can add up just a few of these "knowns" pointing to an obvious.
Australia has stopped all incoming flights from effected areas :P
Actually... rabies and ebolla make a great hybrid combination - and no, I couldn't make this stuff up if I tried.
Foam at the mouth while shitting your liver out.
So, those organs shouldn't be donated, right?
Only Bankers can afford the spare parts, so no, donate away...
Bloody Zombie Biters.
Real Walking Dead near you. Great!
Also there is a scientist at Thomas Jefferson University making a combined rabies ebola vaccine. How nice! Latest National Geographic has a great article on parasites controlling hosts.
"aerostable in an enclosed controlled system in the dark"
Sounds like pretty specific, rare conditions, to me.
"So is there any difference between “aerostable” and “airborne”?"
Yes, dumbass, there is a world of difference ... otherwise they wouldn't be two completely unrelated words.
YOU are NOT going to catch Ebola.
Doesn't sound so rare to me....
"an enclosed controlled system in the dark" sounds like DC, state, county and local leadership, nation wide.
Leading the useless eaters, Free Shit Army and genral malaise ridden propagandized public.
Meaning it's everywhere....
haha, I just knew that you fuckers really are that dumb.
Zerohedge has now become the catch-basin for every paranoid, right-wing idiot on the blogosphere.
It's sad, because they provide some useful information.
There is a solution. Just don't read the threads,
In all fairness .....BEWARE....
Reading and lurking here, in the comment section, will rot your brain.
Honest.
Happens to the best of folks.
ZATO reports rabid, Ebola-infested fruity bats have violently violated ZATO air and seaspace DOZENS of times in the past 30 days! The only cure is more money for everybody - except you. You, keep working.
We oughta do an Ebola ETF
Ticker Symbol: WTFF
sisyn voted for Obama 4 times.
There is a reason that investment decisions are based on expected value and not probability. But .guv's ebola policy gambles on favorable probabilities and so is just another example of stupidity through prog politics. Their ideas are typically catastrophic to the citizenry, but rarely so to all in real time. With ebola, they're hell bent on changing that.
In risk management terms, it isn't the chance of a random person contracting ebola that's the problem, but the economic resources that are consumed to prevent their mortality when they do. Any failure by these turds to control the ebola "chain reaction" that this BSL-4 virus demonstrates in Africa, and it's a race between the exponential function and the linear number of times our health care system can summon the 6 - 7 cash figures it takes to cure each patient.
Right now, our only real strategic option is to buy time by implementing policies that stretch the time constant on the spread of this bug. Treatment resources at the level of care required to successfully handle ebola are limited. Of course, the government shysters in charge at this time have us headed in the opposite direction and are taking decisions that'll help catalyze the spread of this disease. I'm not paranoid either, I just don't like shitty math guided by wishful thinking. But as progs are running the show, nothing but piss poor logic and fairyland mathematics can be demonstrated.
No additional information. Just personal attacks. Is your intention that possible rational visitors to this sight may read your negative labelling and discount the actual information?
Sounds like you need a vaccine shot for what you got: Stockholm Syndrome.
In mild cases, just remove head from rectum. In extreme cases, Rx = Proprietary Pb shot.
Sounds like the cabin of an automobile on the way home from an airport.
When half a dozen people get infected that can be tracked to one source, then people will get serious.
We can upscale growth by offering a new IPO. Jew kosher play dough ovens.
I wish that they'd kill Ebola and dump his body overboard already.
An American, not US subject.
We're sunk Something we can't bomb back to the stone age.
it's friday, it's some sort of natl holy day as well. zh digiprints are caveat emptor. semper.
@.."Why in the world would the Obama administration buy so many hazmat suits if everything was under control?
It doesn’t make sense.
Is this Ebola outbreak much more of a potential threat than they are telling us?"
.
yup, they are not telling you that they believe you are an idiot
to be strung along and used like a mule or other animal.
they will never tell you that and for good reason.
if they did tell you that you might object to
their political agenda that contradicts your interests.
those interests that you cannot articulate as you are
denied that expression every which way.
Follow the $$$$$$$$$
In other words, it can be spread by a cough or a sneeze.
All this time they were telling us it can only be spread with contact to
bodily fluids, well what the hell is that shit that comes out your nose when you
sneeze, sand?, dust? I know its wet shit. Sorta fluidy.......
DUMBASSES THINK WE ARE STUPID!!!!!!
There all scared, why else would they lie like they do?
So, here's the deal, and I am not being alarmist. Ebola is more stable in cooler environments. The cooler it is, the longer it remains viable. In Africa, which is hot and sunny, they virus does not have a chance to live a long time. The virus will be much more stable in North America during the winter for the same reason the flu sean hits during these months.
So the brain trust in the government deliberately brings the virus into North America as temperatures drop and virus killing ultra-violet radiation decreases. There is a chance, therefore, this virus could become endemic to North America. It just needs to find a zoonotic host.
I hope the virus burns itself out, but the refusal of US authorities to at least restrict casual and non-essential trave to and from countries with the epidemic a very strange, to say the least.
BraveSirRobin has done his homework. Kudos!
As long as my Ex catches that shit I will consider it a blessing.
First a rhino, now you say you were married to Obozo.
Scary stuff,
Fascinating article on VT claiming that a passenger of African decent vomitted all over several passengers and was then asked to clean it up himself and released by the airline to continue his travel. Went on the claim that the virus is being deliberately imported into the States presumably (my thoughts) to bring about conditions for the implementation of martial law.
I have stated multiple times that it is inevitable that a terrorist group would infiltrate the the US and start deliberately infecting its citizens and there is no bigger terrorist group in the world than the US government CIA, FBI, Mossad. MI5. Imagine how many bombings and assinations around the world organised by these groups. It'd leave you cold.
Last time anyone saw something like this was at the Anita Bryant concert
But wait!!
What be the odds that this virus just so happens to come here, and continues to be VOLUNTARILY imported by the Feds ... right as Winter begins to fall? Naw, that's just an oddity! Crazy talk! Not planned at all! Nope!
When blogs are long on fear and paranoia, but short on facts, I call: Bullshit!
Ebola is a TROPICAL virus, and dies at 4C (39F).
Cold climates and large distance between people makes it self-limiting.
IOW... Bye bye Sunbelt; live on in the Snowbelt. Party on, Wayne!
We love our country, bash the pieces of shit that try to turn things upside down.
GANBATTE EBOLA-CHAN
I LOVE YOU EBOLA-CHAN
Interesting views from many ZH contributors that this Ebola outbreak is fake, hyped, overblown and then comparisons made to the number of deaths from malaria, flu, car crashes.
Thing is, Ebola is an unknown. We know malaria kills millions but also know they are mainly black Africans who are klilled so of course the westeren world doesn't give a fuck about that. We know flu kills hundreds of thousands per year but mainly the elderly so of course noone really gives a fuck about that. Car crashes, well, what's 30,000 people a year in the States between friends and hey, we all need to drive and fortunately everyone of us is a better than average driver so it won't happen to us.
Ebola though, this is an unknown and it kills anyone. Young and healthy and western and white and upper class with a good share portfolio, two cars and a big house. So to say Ebola is over hyped, I don't agree. It has the potential to turn into a pandemic and this is all that matters. It has the potential to kill millions of white people world wide and that is all that matters. Humans thrive on fear like this. Ever watched a scary movie, we love it.
I'm not claiming the government is not going to try and capitalise on this fear, of course they will and medical marshall law is not far off I think. However, just because there have been only 5,000 deaths (allegedly) so far, just imagine that there is a pandemic one day that kills a couple of billion people, it had to start with it's first 20,000 deahs reported as 5,000 deaths also.
Someone on one of these threads said they'd eat their underwear if Ebola turns out to be a real threat and I'm glad because this would at least make up for the millions of deaths (potential). Hey come on, seeing someone actually have to tear strips off their underwear and eat it would be pretty funny.
Underwear lubed up with Knuckle's anally ejected liver should slide down quite nicely.
BOTA, that's a big bunch of apples and oranges.
(In the order you listed them)
Malaria is preventable and curable. With drugs, the survival rate jumps to 80–85 percent. Children under the age of 5, adults with weakened immune systems, and people who have no access to health care are the most at risk. (WHO)
Flu Week will tell you the odds of getting the flu is 1 in 8. The odds of dying from influenza is 1 in 345,100.
In 2013 there were over 3.8 million crash injuries requiring medical attention. Only 35,200 people died in US traffic accidents. (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) So your chance of dying from injuries sustained in a wreck is around 1 percent.
Now, lets look at Ebola. The WHO in a recent PBS Newshour story states Ebola has a 70.8 percent mortality rate.
So, if you catch Malaria and can see a doctor, you will almost certainly live. If you get into an automobile accident, you will almost certainly live. If you catch the flu, you will almost certainly live. If you catch Ebola, you 'prolly gonna die, boss.
I do understand the point you were trying to make, but your comparison of Ebola to much more common and less frightening ways to die doesn't exactly work.
To be a truly effective argument you would need to compare Ebola to other equally deadly experiences. I'm not sure, but I'd imagine trying to fuck an adult male grizzly bear may have a mortality rate of 70.8 percent (or higher). That would be a better comparison.
So until more is known, my family will be avoiding large crowds this winter. We will also be avoiding grizzly bears. But we are going to be driving, sleeping without mosquito netting on the beds, and going out to play in the cold.
"Never tell me the odds" ~ Hans Solo
Actually trying to penetrate the bear is much higher as you mention.
Slapping a bear/tiger in the face a few times sounds like 70%. but I guess you had to include rape.
If you can't find a tiger try any drunk mexican boxer.
BOTA, that would be LTER, if I'm not mistaken.
What the hell do you mean that my fucking $730.00 a month health insurance policy is gonne opt out, legally, from covering a fucking infectious diease? Is that just new policies, or polices in good standing? Like to know a lot more about this and soon. So, now, if any infectious disease they choose to not cover breaks out you're outta fuckin' luck? TPTB r robnume.
I think you are being a little unreasonable to think that your health insurance policy should cover illness. Never thinking about executive pay or the shareholders are we, mmmmmm.
They're going to throw you out on the street . . . so Bill Lumbergh's stock can go up a quarter of a point.
Hey Robnume, you don't like it pal, next time vote for that other guy! Write a letter to you Sinator, tell your friends at the Big Game on Sunday!
You know, where you put on a better man's shirt, wear his name on your back like you're his High School bitch, and hope 'your' team wins, so you can win the big Fantasy Football Contest.
...The smell, you know that ebola smell, the whole country. Smells (unfortunately) like...justice.
Lifetime Quarantines!!!! Hell Yes!!!
I knew it, Ebolacare is a fraud and they haven't even fleeced us for the web site yet.
We have already been quarantined on this mad fucking planet.
I want my ebola from breast milk. Preferably from Ashley Judd or Hilary Swank.
Aerostable means they'll be adding it into the Geo-engineering aerosol mix to wipe us all out any day now
This is becoming a textbook case on government stupidity in understanding and applying basic science - that is in NOT understanding and applying it because it is politically inconvenient. Whoever lives, please write it down and put it in a book.
This is on a scale with the lesson in capitalism that we are supposed to have learned from 2008 - and still have done almost nothing to avoid again in the future.
And that is on a scale with the lesson we are supposed to have learned from letting Afghanistan become a cesspool of terrorism leading to 9/11.
And that is on a scale with the lesson we are supposed to have learned in Vietnam not to fight half a war.
Learning must just not be very fashionable, not like keeping up with the Kardashians.
The only thing we learn from history is that we don't learn from history
- Knukles
It is a textbook study on the stupidity of the American people that have been dumbed down by the educational system.
And we thought we had overcome this when we learned to read and write. Seeing how that failed miserably we now believe that the internet will save mankind from its stupidity. good luck with that...
So what's so wrong with stupid?
You don't see stupid people sitting around complaining about things they can't change, do ya?
Nope, they just go on their merry way and enjoy their lives.
And when the Zombies attack, they'll get that split-second WTF? before their face is chewed off.
So who's better off?
Since Bush and WMD in Iraq, they realized they can say anything at all and people will by and large buy it. When it all turns out to be bullshit, nothing at all happens and they get re-elected.
Even if a million people died and nothing was achieved.
They always lied, but not so outrageously, and all the time. Now no public figure ever considers telling the truth. It would make them look bad and 'we couldn't handle it'
So why is this news?
My apology to the half-whits that did not know that.
"If this virus did not spread easily, this would not be happening."
If the virus did spread easily, you would be seeing an entirely different scenario already playing out.
Do you bastards even realize that you couldn't go to a meeting of the John Birch Society ?
They would kick you out for being too crazy.
Best comment since the Hedge started
...but there is a bit of a difference... at least with me.... i lurk here muchly for humor... those guys at John Birch meetings take shit way the fuck too seriously...
yeah, kinda, I agree with you, mostly, you know what I mean ;-)
(seems like "reply" should thread under, buyt it don't this time for me. Maybe another time)
We should start a support group.
And ;you could not attend the Nambla meetings/
Fuck anyone that goes to Nambia. Really.
Geez RMFMJ.. you are on quite a Halloween roll tonight..
I think that was their initial childhood problem.
+ 1,000,000,000,000,000
I can't wait for someone with a double digit iq and a triple digit income to red arrow me!
All you guys and gals (probably 99.9% guys) who think Ebola is Obama's coverup, think George bush was in on 9/11, know for sure FDR KNEW about Pearl Harbor, and whatever COMPLETE HORSESHIT YOU BELIVE red arrow me! C'mon!
Oh and if you could attach a slew of infowars, Alex jones links, and CRAZY youtube videos, I'd love it.
Thanks guys. :)
Red eyes at morning, sailor take warning.
ad hominem attack.
Their has been a lot of scientific information presented here with rational discussion.
Still here ?
Anyone would think you are paid by the downvote.
A certain subset feel any attention is better than none.
Dewd, please show us your well worn and tattered Communist Party USA full membership card. I'm sure it's impressive. You don't even know who John Birch was, you just listen to Rachel Madcow on MSNBC and stayed at a Holiday Inn Express.
Yeah, Birch was a fucking moron who though one Dwight Eisenhower was a communist
Go back to "prepping" for the post apocalypse.
I'm sick of this shit! Where's my goddamned flying cars?
John Morrison Birch (May 28, 1918 – August 25, 1945) was an American military intelligence officer and a Baptist missionary in World War II, who was killed during a confrontation with supporters of the Communist Party of China.
Politically conservative groups in the United States consider him to be a martyr and the first victim of the Cold War. The John Birch Society, an American conservative organization formed 13 years after his death, was named in his honor. His parents joined the Society as Life Members.
If he was against communism, then he must be a kook.
As the tykes would say...
Oh... SNAP.
Not to change the subject..... but has anyone addressed the way a virus can mutate> Say, for instance, the flu. From duck, to pig to human. What could ebola do? Human to pig to human. A new strain every year. Be sure to get you flu/ebola vaccine.
Yes, it can and has mutated and the longer it goews on the more mutations will develop.
There are many strains of Ebola virus, many only affect monkeys, for example. This particular strain has mutated the ability to be more stable and linger longer making it easier to spread. This one actually kills a lower percentage of it's victims than previous human outbreaks but makes up for it by being able to spread faster and farther.
Being airborne is the ultimate mutation and it looks like it's there, or almost there. The mutations for transmission to a new host is what makes this Ebola so scary and bad.