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Not Again! US Trained Syrian "Moderates" Surrender To Jihadists - Hand Over Heavy Weapons
Despite the Obama Administration continuing to insist that its strategy in Syria is "working," The Telegraph reports that two of the main rebel groups receiving weapons from the US to fight both the regime and jihadist groups in Syria have surrendered to al-Qaeda. Rather stunningly, the Syrian Revolutionary Front, one of the largest "vetted, moderate" US-backed rebel forces, has been effectively wiped out; and has handed over all their weapons and bases including US-provided anti-tank missiles and GRAD rockets. Simply out, "as a movement, the SRF is effectively finished," but apart from that US foreign policy is 'nailing it'. As The Telegraph concludes, for the US, the weapons they supplied falling into the hands of al-Qaeda is a realisation of a nightmare.
As The Telegraph reports (via Contra Corner),
Two of the main rebel groups receiving weapons from the United States to fight both the regime and jihadist groups in Syria have surrendered to al-Qaeda.
The US and its allies were relying on Harakat Hazm and the Syrian Revolutionary Front to become part of a ground force that would attack the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (Isil).
For the last six months the Hazm movement, and the SRF through them, had been receiving heavy weapons from the US-led coalition, including GRAD rockets and TOW anti-tank missiles.
But on Saturday night Harakat Hazm surrendered military bases and weapons supplies to Jabhat al-Nusra, when the al-Qaeda affiliate in Syria stormed villages they controlled in northern Idlib province.
The development came a day after Jabhat al-Nusra dealt a final blow to the SRF, storming and capturing Deir Sinbal, home town of the group’s leader Jamal Marouf.
The attack caused the group, which had already lost its territory in Hama to al-Qaeda, to surrender.
"As a movement, the SRF is effectively finished,” said Aymen al-Tammimi, a Syria analyst. “Nusra has driven them out of their strongholds of Idlib and Hama.”
The collapse of the SRF and attacks on Harakat Hazm have dramatically weakened the presence of moderate rebel fighting groups in Syria, which, after almost four years of conflict is increasingly becoming a battle ground between the Syrian regime and jihadist organisations.
For the United States, the weapons they supplied falling into the hands of al-Qaeda is a realisation of a nightmare.
And Anti-War's Jason Dietz sums up perfectly...
The Obama Administration continues to insist that its strategy in Syria is “working,” but the setbacks on the ground are growing more dramatic by the day, and the Syrian Revolutionary Front, one of the largest “vetted, moderate” US-backed rebel forces, has been effectively wiped out.
The Revolutionary Front was routed by both ISIS and al-Qaeda’s Jabhat al-Nusra in recent days, and has now surrendered outright after the fall of Deir Sinbal, agreeing to hand over all their weapons and bases to Nusra.
Those weapons, it should be made clear, include US-provided anti-tank missiles and GRAD rockets, and adds to the sizable cache of American weapons now in the hands of US enemies in Syria.
Nusra and ISIS had been at odds for most of the year going into the US war, but the administration’s decision to attack the both of them has driven them into a growing coordination, and turned the already massive ISIS into an even bigger group with even more international contacts.
The US had been backing groups like the Revolutionary Front with an eye toward eventually installing them as the new Syrian government, but even with US and GCC bankrolling, they never grew beyond comparatively small factions within the overall, Islamist-dominated rebellion.
That didn’t stop the US from throwing larger amounts of more advanced weaponry at them, despite it being fairly obvious that either ISIS or Nusra could take them out at any time.
There wasn’t much need for ISIS or Nusra to do so until the US expanded its war into Syria in September, and that made US allies on the ground huge targets for enemies they were not able to defeat.
The administration will no doubt downplay the defeat of the Revolutionary Front, having distanced themselves from the existing moderate factions with an eye toward eventually creating their own rebel group.
Yet the same problems loom large if and when that new group is created, as it will presumably be made up of recruits from the same feckless fighting forces, and awash in the same US armaments that didn’t work this time.
The US policy of throwing weapons and funds at such factions has not only failed, it has failed spectacularly, giving ISIS and Nusra a steady stream of advanced weapons to loot from smaller forces.
Not only has the administration clearly not learned that lesson, but the plan to create a new rebel force seems destined to repeat it, on an even larger scale.
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He said it - Play Time is Over..
It could not have been more clearly put to the CIA / USA war machine - you guys fk around and play with your toys and hand them out to the crazee's we mean business.
Flash - my inside news source has just informed me that there has been a "rebellion" against Obama by heads of the US military. I don't mean a coup or a shooting rebellion, but a real hard wall of NO WE WON'T have a nuclear war with Russia. Keep your eyes open on this for the next few days, especially shortly after mid-term elections are settled.
The one thing that people need to remember is that at the very top: Putin, Obama, the Sauds, the BIS and Wall Street are all on the same team.
Psychopaths do not work well together.
So, now are those the weapons that were brokered out of Chris Steven's office in Benghazi or are they the ones that Turkey and the Sauds preplaced to fall into the hands of ISIS?
As The Telegraph concludes, for the US, the weapons they supplied falling into the hands of al-Qaeda is a realisation of a nightmare.
or maybe it could be written, "...
the weapons they supplied falling into the hands of al-Qaeda is a fulfillment of a dream."
These developments are not surprising. Obama is obviously trying to sabotage the US from the inside. How is it possible that every single move this guy makes either ends in disaster or scandal? He has no right to hold that office and his meteoric rise to the presidency is much too coincidental. he is a plant, a manchurian candidate so to speak. if one truly wanted to ruin the US for generations, you'd do exactly what Obama is doing, from immigration to economics and military to healthcare, no president in history has ever done as much harm to the US as the current one.
Woodrow Wilson was the greatest traitor. He made all of this possible. Non of this would be happening without the FRBNY finance.
'for the US,the weapons they supplied falling into the hands of al-Qaeda is a realisation of a nightmare.'
Nightmare my foot.
This going so well, it's hard to beleive the cunningness.
Of course "We had to kill a few Folks", but now Assad is nearly defeated, and this without any US boots on the ground.
Champagne (or Bud) anyone?
m.
I'm all for supplying ragheads with all the weapons and bullets and bombs they need to kill each other. Muslim on Muslim violence is a win for America. Thousands less terrorists that, "are poised to invade America and kill us all". I hope all Americans going over there are rewarded with 70 virgins.
You may want read a Quoran.
72 Angels(pure ones) will greet you at the gates of heaven.
Virgins is a deliberate mistranslation, hardly a new thing.
I took it upon myself to read the Koran back in 2007. I selected an original English translation which was published in 1916, because it pre-dated the Balfour Declaration and all the political and religious turmoil that have occurred since.
I don't remember the prophet ever saying such a thing.
I don't normally comment on war and civil unrest my friends. But, when I do -- I take "Destabiliz-ation' seriously. Stay vomiting-nauseous my friends...
Obama...
America's best face-palm President.
Why not declare ISIS Kings of Iraq and Syria and call it a day.
It's just too painful to watch.
At least we didn't "accidentally" air drop more weapons and ammo into their territory, yet, today.
This is the MIC's version of channel stuffing.
So in effect they have now (heavily) armed the people fighting directly against US enemy no.1 Mr. Assad.
Job done!
For all practical purposes, Syria no longer exists. Damascus and the surrounding territory, still controlled by the Assad government, could be called "rump Syria". The Syrian "government" probably has a smattering of military bases under its control in other areas, but those are now more like outposts than part of the country. Hell, Assad could link up with Hezbollah and just start a new country called Syria 2.0.
Assad will not be regaining authority over the rest of what was Syria nor do Al Qaeda or IS have the ability to take Damascus. The same situation exists in what was Iraq. No Shiite government, with a few Sunni stooges, is going to regain control over what was formerly the country's borders. Yet the clueless Western media along with its politicians continue to promote the idea that these countries still exist in the old sense.
War profiteers...line them up and shoot them dead.
IF YOU WANT OUR WEAPONS, YOU CAN KEEP OUR WEAPONS.
You might conclude that the obama is the most incompetent moron ever, but you would be wrong - the galactic-scale morons who voted for him are the most incompetent morons ever.
The most dangerous thing in USA is the vote. It can put living shit into the White House and keep it there for years instead of flushing it down a toilet.
Would McCain have been a better bet? Here's the real problem: we keep being presented with only two choices, both of whom are owned and controlled by you know who. No one else is allowed to run, or mount a serious campaign. Two candidates are selected by the NWO puppet masters and they are allowed to run and are funded to the hilt because it doesn't matter which one wins -- TPTB own both candidates. The rest are marginalized by the media that is owned and controlled by the same megalomaniacs. Remember "Buddy" Roemer. Made more sense than any other candidate running as a Republican. Wasn't even allowed at the debates. No national exposure. No chance to gain any political momentum. On the other side, Dr. Howard Dean was the smartest and probably the most honest and passionate of the democratic candidates. What happened to him? The media presented him as a nut because of one emotional statement he made. Game over. With Ross Perot, the PTTB threatened to kill his daughter if he went forward with his campaign. The press called him a conspiracy nut. Game over. Until we get rid of the psychopath puppet masters, nothing will change
The political system in the USA is irredeemably corrupt - both parties and all candidates are just different flavors of the same shit & vomit - USA requires a complete reboot, including purge of all the politicans & parties.
Bullish for Q4 GDP.
"Deep State" is getting so desperate now that they can't even bother to come up with a remotely plausible cover anymore. The weapons deliveries to ISIS are obviously deliberate. Reason is probably to stir up maximum chaos in the Middle-East and put a bottom in the oil price, now that the Saudis are refusing to play ball anymore. The Petrodollar is hanging on the brink...
My 5 year old boy could of worked out them weapons were going to end up with extremists.
That sooner or later will end up killing American soldiers.
Moderate Islamists...
Is that like moderate Mafia?
I pretty much think of anyone who wants to shoot someone else besides me as a moderate.
Seems reasonable.
Huh? It's been common knowledge AQ (*cough* the CIA *cough*) has been getting the weapons. Why is this news now? Did the last few years somehow vanish from existence?
It really is 1984...
Well yeah, there's that...
But these are the weapons we were bragging about giving away instead of on the sly, so there's a difference.
I guess.
Obama and his Chicago syndicate have played the American people again and again and again...... you get the idea.
Great, so the tax payers and the future generations pay for these weapons, end it up to the extremists free and come back to kill the them. The situation sounds like what Malcolm Tucker called a circle jerk.
"So all I'm doing here is asking you, formally, if you will join me in a little bit of a circle jerk?"
This is the resurrection of the Maccabees.
It is a total religious war by the Zionists and everyone with an IQ over 10 is aware of what is going on.
Throughout the 2nd century BCE;, the city-state of Jerusalem-Judah lay between the two great powers of Egypt and Syria. The Ptolemies ruled in Egypt and the Seleucids in Syria. These were residual states that had been left when Alexander the Great’s empire had broken up about 20 years after his death. Antiochus IV ruled Syria from 175 to 164/163 bce. He carried the substitute name of Epiphanes, a Greek word meaning “god manifest.” A conqueror of overweening pride, as he is described in the Book of Daniel in the Bible, he set out to seize Judaea (or Judah), which until then had been a province of Egypt. He aimed incidentally to rid the world of the annoying (and, to him, peculiar), exclusive, “nonconformist” religion of the Jewish people. In order to unify his vast and racially heterogeneous empire, which stretched as far as the Caspian Sea, he planned to create one religion for all.
From Haaretz during the last Gaza incursion.
Imagine our shock when the current brigade commander called for a holy fight to fulfill God's will. Colonel Ofer Winter, who in his youth attended a religious-military school, had this to say to his soldiers on the eve of battle:
"History has chosen us as the spearhead of the fight against the Gazan terrorist enemy, who abus10es and curses the God of Israel's battles…I raise my eyes to heaven and call with you: 'Hear oh Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is One'. Oh Lord, the God of Israel, make us succeed on our way, as we are going to fight for Israel against an enemy who curses your name!"
The official aim of the Israeli army in this campaign was to guard the border and stop the launching of rockets at Israeli towns and villages. But that is not the aim of the Colonel. He sent his soldiers to die (three of them did) for the God of Israel, against those who curse his name.
If this officer were the only religious fanatic in the army, it would be bad enough. But the army is now full of kippah-wearing officers who have been indoctrinated with religious fervor and indoctrinate their soldiers in turn with the same spirit.
The Zionist-religious party and its fanatical rabbis, many of them outspoken fascists, have been working for years to systematically infiltrate the army's officer corps. It’s a process of natural selection: officers who are loath to act as colonial masters in occupied territories leave the army to become high-tech entrepreneurs, while messianic fanatics are sent to fill their place.
The colonel, by the way, has not been reprimanded or harmed in any way. On the contrary, he has been lauded during the war as an exemplary battle commander.
Keep your eye on the Temple Mount! That is the goal of Israel. Everything else is noise.
Thank you for the historical context.
There's so much confusion out there in the M/E, I'm waiting for the Iraqi army to join up with ISIS and start using "their" US-supplied heavy weapons against the Iraqi government.
That would be a lot of fun to watch.
What then Obola?
US Trained Syrians are a loss-leader marketing group for the MIC
I'm sure Josh Earnest will have a convincing explanation for all this. Not that he really cares; it will be your kids and not his office that gets shot to pieces with the lost weapons. Carry on.
All part of the plan.
-Create fake ISIS that is fighting against Asad.
-Tell the world you will arm those who try to stop ISIS (whatever that really mean)
-Make sure that in fact all those weapon end up in the end of ISIS.
-Try to topple the Asad regime with ISIS while claiming that you have nothing to do with it at all.
the TOW missiles have a 10,000 meter range, far enough to hit a malaysian airliner, and of course we flatlined the "missiles to Mujahudeen lesson" from the 1980s (oh ya put remote destruct capability in missiles we give to Muslim rebels duh).
Enemy alien president
the Iranians will be getting free copies of all our latest advanced weapons and communications systems too, war transfers technology whether you want it to or not.
If I had a nickle for everyone who claimed 'God wills it' as cover for subjugation of their enemies...
Oddly enough, some of them really believe it.
Doesn't really matter though. It could be better PR than just saying "Let's go clean house."
The results are the same. Everybody wants more. Money, power, territory doesn't make a difference. Human nature.
Another oddity is we lock up the small time grifters and allow the big timers to do the same thing.
The crazy part is that we give them our hard earned money so they can do it.
Collective insanity.
TOW missiles as in wire-guided? GRAD rockets as in Russian? Are we dumping 20-40yo obsolete stuff in Syria? Or are these terms used for *wireless* missiles and American MLRS?
Could it be we *wanted* those weapons captured, hmmm? Probably not, but it's a thought.
This is already getting beyond hilarious! What an absolute disgrace!
When it seemed virtually impossible to screw things up any further Obumerang does it again. Even his military advisers told him arming "moderate" rebels was a bad idea. When will the western world figure out that all Muslims seek to lead their lives the same as their prophet it's just a matter of how when they do it.
ROTFLMAO
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3cAsASTTdw
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"Big Brother"
Your name is big brother
You say that you're watching me on the tele,
Seeing me go nowhere,
Your name is big brother,
You say that you're tired of me protesting,
Children dying everyday,
My name is nobody
But I can't wait to see your face inside my door
Your name is big brother
You say that you got me all in your notebook,
Writing it down everyday,
Your name is I'll see ya,
I'll change if you vote me in as the pres,
The President of your soul
I live in the ghetto,
You just come to visit me 'round election time
I live in the ghetto,
Someday I will move on my feet to the other side,
My name is secluded,
we live in a house the size of a matchbox,
Roaches live with us wall to wall,
You've killed all our leaders,
I don't even have to do nothin' to you
You'll cause your own country to fall
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Dark Legacy: .....the nazis and fascists, etc ...
corporate monopolist dealers.
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This is so obviously on purpose. The "moderates" are the middlemen in this massive arms deal.
If only Obama had shipped them Ebola instead of arms like he has done to America...
Obama wants to disarm Americans and ship us Ebola, while he ships arms to ISIS using the Syrian conduit, the Syrian Revolutionary Front.
What else should we expect from the man who leads the Islamist attack on the US? Obama is at war with the US. The WH meets regularly with the parent organization of most of the terrorist groups, including AlQaeda and ISIS and the Lybian September Brigade, namely the Muslim Brotherhood.
Since USAIPAC/Saudis/Turkey/Qatar can no longer get away with directly funding ISIS "to overthrow Assad", the obvious answer is to set up and arm a temporary "moderate rebel" straw man, who when the right time arrives, then defects to ISIS.
The answer is quite simple....the portions of Syria and Iraq held by ISIS need to hold a referendum and declare an independent State.....USAIPAC, their EU puppets, the Saudis, Qatar, Israel, Egypt. and Turkey can then recognize the elections as legitimate, thus paving the way for a north-south ernegy pipeline from Saudi Arabia and thence to Turkey and to EU.This avoids any delay, as well as the need do depose Assad, who can be left in charge of the portion of Syria that he now holds (of course, in exchange for a Mediterranean seaport, and including an energy corridor and a pipeline)
I'm sure it's just some sort of clerical error.
Just hold on and Obama's press secretary will explain why it's not that bad.
In fact, it's probably a clever trap to make al-Qaeda THINK they're winning when they really aren't.