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Republicans Furious After Obama Announces Will Give 5 Million Illegal Immigrants "Executive Amnesty", Work Permits
The "compromise" refrain from last week's devastating, for the democrats, midterm election result lasted about one week. Because according to the NYT, here comes Obama with a package of executive actions which will assure Congress full of furious Republicans, which will result in a broad overhaul of the nation’s immigration enforcement system but more importantly, will result in up to five million potential democrat voter illegal immigrants "from the threat of deportation and provide many of them with work permits, according to administration officials who have direct knowledge of the plan."
Here are the key details of the latest set of Obama executive orders, which are assured to throw the nation into another politial crisis:
One key piece of the order, officials said, will allow many parents of children who are American citizens or legal residents to obtain legal work documents and no longer worry about being discovered, separated from their families and sent away.
That part of Mr. Obama’s plan alone could affect as many as 3.3 million people who have been living in the United States illegally for at least five years, according to an analysis by the Migration Policy Institute, an immigration research organization in Washington. But the White House is also considering a stricter policy that would limit the benefits to people who have lived in the country for at least 10 years, or about 2.5 million people
Extending protections to more undocumented immigrants who came to the United States as children, and to their parents, could affect an additional one million or more if they are included in the final plan that the president announces.
So are deportations about to become thing of the past? Not exactly: "A new enforcement memorandum, which will direct the actions of Border Patrol agents and judges at the Department of Homeland Security, the Justice Department and other federal law enforcement and judicial agencies, will make clear that deportations should still proceed for convicted criminals, foreigners who pose national security risks and recent border crossers, officials said."
So for the tens of millions of illegals currently in the US, as well as their extended families residing abroad, you are in luck, and soon to be in possession of a green card providing you with all the benefits of America's insolvent welfare state. And not to mention a fair chance at those 4.7 million job openings that the BLS' JOLTS report revealed earlier today.
For US citizens who were born here, and who did not illegally cross the border to get inside the country: better luck next time.
Far more amusing for everyone is that the plan was conceived and finalized while president "Chewbama" was being mocked for his Nicorette habit, and belittled during his most recent trip to APEC in Beijing, where his crowning achievement was agreeing with China not to launch World War III.
White House officials declined to comment publicly before a formal announcement by Mr. Obama, who will return from an eight-day trip to Asia on Sunday. Administration officials said details about the package of executive actions were still being finished and could change. An announcement could be pushed off until next month but will not be delayed into next year, officials said.
As for the US, which is supposedly expected to grow at a above trendline 3% growth rate, through the harsh polar vortex 2.0 winter and in a world in which all major economies are rapidly crashing, what appears to be on the horizong is yet another constitutional crisis, and perhaps, finally, the dreader "impeachment" word:
The decision to move forward sets in motion a political confrontation between Mr. Obama and his Republican adversaries that is likely to affect budget negotiations and debate about Loretta E. Lynch, the president’s nominee to be attorney general, during the lame-duck session of Congress that began this week. It is certain to further enrage Republicans as they take control of both chambers of Congress early next year.
A group of Republicans — led by Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, Senator Mike Lee of Utah and Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama — is already planning to thwart any executive action by the president on immigration. The senators are hoping to rally their fellow Republicans to oppose efforts to pass a budget next month unless it explicitly prohibits the president from enacting what they call “executive amnesty” for people in the country illegally.
“Our office stands ready to use any procedural means available to make sure the president can’t enact his illegal executive amnesty,” said Catherine Frazier, a spokeswoman for Mr. Cruz.
But the president and his top aides have concluded that acting unilaterally is in the interest of the country and the only way to increase political pressure on Republicans to eventually support a legislative overhaul that could put millions of illegal immigrants on a path to legal status and perhaps citizenship. Mr. Obama has told lawmakers privately and publicly that he will reverse his executive orders if they pass a comprehensive bill that he agrees to sign.
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“I think it will create a backlash in the country that could actually set the cause back and inflame our politics in a way that I don’t think will be conducive to solving the problem,” said Senator Angus King of Maine, an independent who caucuses with the Democrats and supports an immigration overhaul.
Hispanics disagree:
Many pro-immigration groups and advocates — as well as the Hispanic voters who could be crucial for Democrats’ hopes of winning the White House in 2016 — are expecting bold action, having grown increasingly frustrated after watching a sweeping bipartisan immigration bill fall prey to a gridlocked Congress last year.
Some groups, like the United We Dream network, the largest organization of young undocumented immigrants, are preparing to deploy teams to early 2016 states like Iowa and New Hampshire to hold presidential candidates accountable and press for more action.
“From our perspective, the president has the power, the precedent and the priority for action on his side,” said Clarissa Martínez-De-Castro, deputy vice president of the National Council of La Raza. The opportunity “to go big and bold is what will allow the country to derive the biggest benefit on both the economic side and the national security side.”
And if that fails, America's not so smart voters (according to the creator of Obamacare of course), can always just go back to staring at Kim Kardashian'ass.
Most impotantly, all of the above is bullish for stocks, as is everything else.
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Something tells me that what is clearly black-letter-law (e.g. he can't do this via EO) is going to be turned into a constitutional crisis. I ponder to what end, though, I suspect it goes beyond just immigration. Perhaps a hail mary play that the Supremes go along with the EO and thus we move to a for-real dictatorship?
It could take a year or two to get to the Supreme Court and then it's time for a new seat warmer in chief.
they can fast track if a constitutional crisis
A federal judge can shut this down tomorrow, if he believes that's the law. If the gov were to disobey that people can be imprisoned for contempt.
It never starts with the supremes. That is only the last step if there are appeals all the way up.
Something tells me that what is clearly black-letter-law (e.g. he can't do this via EO) is going to be turned into a constitutional crisis.
there is NO constitutional crisis....
the muslim is a traitor and the law must be thrown at him and kick him OUT....
WHAT FUCKING CRISIS ?
I agree -- it's black-letter law, there's zero room for interpretation.
That doesn't mean they won't do it anyway. That is a constitutional crisis.
Don't forget that even though he's got the lowest approval rating in history, millions think whatever he does is divinely inspired, and a good chunk of those millions work in the executive branch. Don't expect them to back down without a court order, and indeed maybe not even with.
It's all about the politics.
..Let's do a little speculative yet fun trip through the next few months.
Obama and the Democrats have publicly stated (and people thought he was just whining over losing) that he realizes they lost because too many people stayed home instead of voting last Tues.
- that was a dog whistle to the illegal Hispanic cartel that "we love ya amigo, we made mistake in not pushing".
Whether he's right or wrong makes no difference because he has just set the stage for his second attack by once again defining the rules on the next, not last week's battle field.
So what is he going to do with that pen and phone he wields?.. of course he will sign an executive order to make amends to the Hispanic crowd (mythical or not as to whether they torpedoed him, it makes no matter at this point) so he arrogantly signs another piece of paper..
What does anyone think that leaves for the party of stupid?- now they have to again pander to one diametrically opposed audience or the other, go through the motions of pretending to address it as you and I wish they would, or what's more likely try the usual middle approach and send him an 'improved comprehensive bill of legislation' actually giving even more away by hiding the real damage and selling it to a gullible party faithful that has everything invested in them, because the 2016 elections have already begun.
An attempt to play both sides of the audience claiming that they can build a better version of amnesty makes sense because amnesty is all they been talking about since 2012.
- and if he signs it they are cooked and if he veto's it they are cooked.
Obama is setting another tar baby style red herring based ambush on the pathway to the next swamp that is going to give the Republicans the deer in the headlights look for two full years.
Once their political instincts kick in and they realize they have to pander (lie convincingly) to the illegals or pander (lie convincingly) to Americans who are righteously sick of what's going on.
The Party Of Stupid has fooled themselves into believing they could better manage any issue instead of addressing it out of a position of sound philosophical thinking because they are primarily
politicians- not good ones but they still recognize they alwaays have to play someone in the game for stupid when they are just buying votes and nothing is stupider than someone who invests in any man over principle.. so they logically consider the party fools, I might add correctly so far, as already in the pocket"..
Once you start playing politics instead of standing on principle that foundation gets real shaky- now they have another problem.
the GOP and Dems both do what the corporations want...and the corporations want as many human livestock jammed into this nation/ranch as they can get...so the GOP will pretend to put up a fight, and then weasel out of doing anything...just like the Dems weaseled out of giving us single payer healthcare.
As I the only sane person in America? This nation is a livestock ranch...run for and by the corporations. We humans are the livestock, and the ranchers want as many livestock as they can get, any way they can get them.
Growth. GDP. Profits. Revenues. Wages. etc. That is all that matters. And 3rd world cheap labor worker-consumers is what CorpGovMedia wants and what it will get--- and the GOP is not going to stop them.
"..just like the Dems weaseled out of giving us single payer healthcare."
You mean "just like the Dems weaseled out of giving us single payer healthcare up the ass until it kills all of us." Destroy what's left of our health care system - let politicians be completely in charge of it as well as pay for it.
yeah, our wonderful healthcare system...that looks like junk compared to the system of every other white western nation
LOL!!! Yeah, that's why they (Canadians, British, et al) often times jet to the U.S. for treatment instead of getting treatment from their "superior" government health care systems. They all want our terrible health care.
Damn... some people are beyond stupid.
Infuriate republicans my ass. Bush was an open borders guy, and GOP pander to corps that want cheap labor. This issue is where politicians do the opposite of prevailing citizen desire.
In my admittedly limited experience after a lifetime in the construction industry, I'd have to say that illegal immigrants from south of the border are infinitely desirable in comparison to legal immigrants from Canada or Europe and, all things considered, make better Americans than many of the native born specimens.
The problem isn't that these people want to come to America, it is that politicians want to poison them with free stuff. Cut out the free stuff. Good for the immigrants and good for the lazy asses whose jobs they have to do for them. Blaming someone for taking the money that gets thrown at them doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. Stop the EBT and the Section 8 housing and the LEAP utility payments. That alone would trigger a huge boost in productive activity in this country.
Frankly, we also need a program that gives free stuff to people who are willing to renounce their citizenship and hit the road.
immigrant song, his favorite tune
Apparently TPTB are still not satisfied with the amount of slave labor available in the US. Until we are all working for Bangladesh wages it will continue. The beatings will continue until moral improves.
Gotta love an instant 5 mil AHA enrollees!
And think of all the debt they'll be saddled with in no time.
Bienvenida a América, mi esclavos leal.
It is sad (fucking abominable) that only criminal behavior is rewarded and celebrated in this country. I feel more and more like a dupe every day for busting my ass to make a living.
Rational people have to laugh (or cry) at the corrupt headline: "Infuriate Republicans." As if democrats, greens, libertarians, and other don't need the jobs that these ILLEGAL aliens are ILLEGALLY working. Carpenter is really a job that legal residents won't do?
Listen American Zero's.
Don't worry about these folks. Minimum wage will be raised to $15/hr so they can afford to live in the American 3rd world nation.
lol. GO!
Pay attention, Envious Null
Speaking of real you betcha for sure Third World nations, what is the mimimum wage in Bangalore?
And, just supposing that we do sink to that level, does that make current Third World nations new memebers of the Fifth World? After all, their only way of making a buck is to sell trinkets to the Americans. What happens to them when the Americans hang a "No Soliciting" sign on their door?
Wow, here come 20$ Big Macs.
Congress has the purse strings. They can stop this ANY TIME THEY WANT.
Conclusion: they don't want to stop it. They want to do it, but in a way to take credit for it. Just like ObamaCare...the repubitards are every bit as hot to have it as the communists, only they want 'their' version of it so they can take the credit.
How do they stop it?
It takes funds and resources to deport people but it is almost free to allow people to stay here, so how could Congress withold funding and that stop the Feds from 'not deporting' people?
Exactly. All revenue begins in the House.
Therefore, it is obvious the "Republicans" are also the "Democrats"
Or vice-versa.
Take your pick.
There is only ONE party and the US Serf is NOT invited.
Bush Obummer should have been impeached, prosecuted and jailed a long time ago.
As a legal immigrant I've waited 12 years to get greencard. I should've jumped the fence instead.
there's a fence?
Commit a crime first. Preferably against a redneck. You'll be an offical American at supersonic speed.
This should be a two-pronged EO including not just illegals but black, hispanic, and female prisoners, no matter their crimes.
Will he be giving himself executive amnesty as well?
See below.
The title of this article is wrong. It won't infuriate the Republicans, it will be their delight. By doing this Barry will infuriate a lot of the 70+% of white, working-class and middle-class voters who are seeing their wages stagnate or decline because of immigration (both cheap and high-tech) plus the loss of job opportunities. The Republicans will play the `savior of the people` and that will give them a big edge in '16.
Just like obamacare was a gift to the (supposedly) hated insurance companies, this will be yet another gift to the (supposedly hated) corporations to make use of masses of unskilled labor. I'm sure the union bosses will be pleased....I doubt the worker who voted for Obama will be.
Not to mention another horde of illegals will coming up north soon, as that is exactly what happened the last time we did this shit. Excuse me....the liberals call them "undocumented" instead of "illegal". My bad.
Oh well. I don't want to hear another fucking word about the lack of jobs, etc. since you liberals seem to be the loudest complainers.
another distraction. its all orchestrated. they have to make them tax paying citizens and let as many others in as want to come in. who is going to pay the bills down the road? 70 million more boomers will retire, and stop paying the tax bill.
the dems and repubs will put on a show like this is something to discuss/debate. its already determined
Uh, they need jobs to pay the bills. And, we already have 10's of millions of CITIZENS not working. How is it that another 30 million "Citizens" are going to get jobs?
the majority of them work at the bottom of the food chain, for the lowest wages. they have jobs and they are willing to work-in fields, on a roof, in a garden, cleaning carpets, nanny's, etc. our privledged youth are not willing to fill those jobs, gotta go to college.
remember, according to the bureau of lies and statistics (BLS) unemployment rate is 5.8% (lowest in 7 years), initial jobles claims at low levels of 40 years ago, 4.7 million job openings, and consumer sentiment at 86.9 highest since 2007. these are perfect data for them to use to backstop their decision to let anybody in.
they want/need the tax $ from those willing workers working for $ under the table and they need more to fullfill future obligations.
everything else is theatre.
He has nothing to lose now. Nothing at all. The elites who want this cheap labor legalized can call upon Obama to reward them with this act. Also, with no elections at all to worry about, Obama is talking of going to war with the Syrian government again. Serious talk that Obama will up the game in Syria to include invasion or full scale air strikes on Syria. BUT wait, this isn't over, the elites have a long "Wish" list for Obama. Now that elections have no meaning at all, Obama is free to use executive powers for Israel, Neoconservative Imperialists, Corporate Interests, etc.
Obama is part and parcel of the Democratic Leadership Council, this is the interface between the Democrat Party and the Corporate, Banking and Military Industrial Elites. Bill Clinton jumped the shark and moved the corporate wing of the Democrats fully into the Corporate Crony game. Obama will now act without political blowback, to reward the Corporate and Neocon interests who control most of the real powers inside both parties.
So, will Obama give corporate America the gift of free cheap labor, and more open borders? Yes, of course. Don't be foolish, he is going to become a private citizen in two years, and those he rewards now, will shower him with wealth and influence when he is private citizen Obama. You want to see the real face of the DLC, you have two years to watch this wing of the Democrats run wild! Corporate interests in favor of open borders are now going to push for more cheap labor flowing into the USA. Just as you thought it could not get worse! Look for open borders, and look for war with Syria, Iran, Russia. Obama is set loose to fullfil the Neocon dream sheet.
Backdoor Barry's Dictatorship is just as strong as Hitler's and Mussolini's at their respective peaks.
A lot of people sure were fooled when the Congress went "Republican."
What a fucking laugh.
For the life of me, I've never heard of a term-limited dictator before. Well, okay, Putin. My mistake.
But I don't think Pelosi or Reid are going to let Obama have either of their jobs in two years. So what title will he use to continue his reign of terror?
UN Secretary? As if they'd have him.
Supreme Court justice? As if we'd have him.
Assistant Lunch Room Food Gauleiter?
You Sir are soooooo correct!
We have a government full of idiotic psychopaths and a peasantry that gives a shit less. Boy are we in for it...
I'm starting to notice a pattern, I think....
in all cases, it is claimed that it is "racist" to oppose open borders, hence the will of the people doesn't actually matter. The people making policy, thy're motived only by the best of reasons, see?
Wait for the attacks on free speech and the internet. It will always be about preventing 'hate'. And why, criticizing the US government will be 'supporting terror' while criticizing Israel's illgal occupation and penchant for war crimes is, of course, itself merely racist.
You have an executive, installed by powerful/moneyed interests, giving himself new powers, out of thin air, which directly go against both the welfare of the country and the wishes of the majority, and increasing efforts to regulate both internet and speech - from both Left and Right.
By the time people wake up and start pushing back it may well be too late.
America would be fine if it weren't for the liberals and all the minorities and Jews that support them. America could easily kick the ass of anyone around the world that we needed to, and then it would be like 1957 all over again.
That might be satire...
Yes normal countries populated by people similar to themselves are immoral. People might start looking at the alien freeloaders as parasites.
"PM, our only true enemies are YT Christians."
"Yes, General. The Mossad has a plan to destroy the White Euro Culture. Only we will be left to Rule."
(evil laughs all around).
You see the Jewish people LOVE their people, want them to survive and you can see that in this report and also how American Jews support the "Fence" Israel's immigration laws, yet they work for open borders for US, U.S.
Israel’s Netanyahu: “We Don’t Have To Open Our Doors To Be Swamped”
Haim Saban Raises $34M to Support Israeli Defense Forces 11/07/2014
Mugging Americans: ObamaCare’s Jonathan Gruber And Norbert Schlei Of The 1965 Immigration Act
National Data |October Jobs: Is Immigrant Displacement Of American Workers Accelerating?
Diversity Is Our Destruction
Patrick J. Buchanan August 9, 2007
http://refugeeresettlementwatch.wordpress.com
UnElecting A People—Amnesty Is The Ultimate Form Of “Voter Suppression”
Income Inequality Will Worsen with Millions of Immigrants Who ‘Work for Peanuts’
We Saw This One Coming – Ebola Guy’s Family Gets Settlement from Dallas Hospital
http://21pronto.com/jewish_supremacism.htm
There is something to it. I've actually read the Bible. It is, all of it, batshit crazy, but leaving the Talmud aside {its such a big incoherent group of texts there is always a passage that says the opposite of what stormfront types will pull out as examplars} the Torah itself is absolutely fucking vile.
When Israel Is MightySorry, it is. If you disagree - try reading Leviticus, or Judges. It's gross. It's racist. There is nothing moral or admirable about it. And it escapes criticism because it is conflated with hating "the Jews" in a way that is increasingly similar to accusations of 'Islamophobia' if you criticize the Koran.
Where taken literally, hate and violence follow both Torah and Koran. Not so much the New Testament.
I don't think most people take it literally or anything thank goodness, but it's easy to surmise that the supremacism, ethnocentrism, materialism, and xenophobia contrasted poorly with other peoples, incuding the Romans, and later, the Holy Romans/Germanics/Catholic Church.
We're all victims of history. Some people just enjoy it more than others.
http://21pronto.com/jewish_supremacism.htm
There is something to it. I've actually read the Bible. It is, all of it, batshit crazy, but leaving the Talmud aside {its such a big incoherent group of texts there is always a passage that says the opposite of what stormfront types will pull out as examplars} the Torah itself is absolutely fucking vile.
When Israel Is MightySorry, it is. If you disagree - try reading Leviticus, or Judges. It's gross. It's racist. There is nothing moral or admirable about it. And it escapes criticism because it is conflated with hating "the Jews" in a way that is increasingly similar to accusations of 'Islamophobia' if you criticize the Koran.
Where taken literally, hate and violence follow both Torah and Koran. Not so much the New Testament.
I don't think most people take it literally or anything thank goodness, but it's easy to surmise that the supremacism, ethnocentrism, materialism, and xenophobia contrasted poorly with other peoples, incuding the Romans, and later, the Holy Romans/Germanics/Catholic Church.
We're all victims of history. Some people just enjoy it more than others.
This has more to do with tax reciepts than voting.
Hispanics actually vote right more than any other minority b/c of their affinity with social issues via religion.
The lower class has always been able to look down on the illegals. Most of these illegals have a better work ethic and will instantly become upper lower class at a minimum.
It also painfully illustrates that the lazy lower class is just that because illegals (now legal) without a US public education achieve more than the legal citizens of this class.
I figure you for a fella who's never been to East LA.
I've just lost my job, this will help a bunch! Thanks you fucking cock sucker!
sorry to hear that, but it appears you are just the first of many to follow..
..seriously sorry to hear that.
5 Million my ass
Try 20-30 Million
Repubicons need to pin down the Shield ( AG )
and charge him, and don't replace him
then Smudge is UN-Shielded
Smudge will make sure Merica is bankrupt
before he leaves
AAA rated.
Americans will take it up the ass and do nothing about it. Again. As usual.
My view:
Obama gets his amensty if he gives up power to pentagon
(insert list of flag-rank officers abruptly fired by Obama)
Impeach that faggot.
This is easy- wait til the new class of jerks are seated in the senate, impeach and remove the loon and then do an Eisenhower type "Operation Wetback" and put things right.
http://1950immigration.wordpress.com/operation-wetback/
Death rate by guns shoting will rise.
Contrary to popular belief, this planet and properties on it are not owned by any country.
Groups of people may get together, form a government and put up borders, but the land itself is the birthright of any who are born on this planet.
Undocumented immigration used to be a civil crime, less than a misdemeanor.
There is no reason why people on this planet are not allowed to travel and work as they will. I am not speaking of violent cartels or gangs set to do mischief, Respect is also a rule of the game. Respecting possessions, homes and so forth.
There are many Americans crying about lost jobs, but then, they won't work for the low wages either or perform some of the menial tasks. The government pays too well not to work and they scream the loudest.
A couple of years ago, a young woman and her son had a car accident in the desert killing the mother. An 'evil' Mexican border jumper discovered the accident. Knowing full well he would be caught and thrown out, he stayed with the boy till authorities arrived.
If the Native American's policies were like the Europeans who stole their land, the USA would be filled with native Americans and the tourists and foreign home owners would be royalty from Europe.
Be thankful you are on a nice part of the planet. That should be good enough. Most of the anti immigration crowd are racists.
Most of the open borders crowd are racists too.
Only that's not what we call them.
You, sir, are a moron.
The only thing in the world that matters is driving the cost of labor down. If that takes Mexicans, or robots, or robot-Mexicans, we must do it!
Think of the producers, and people who don't like yard work!
Not a moron, just believe in something greater than myself.
When I arrived on this planet, there was no toe tag informing me where I could travel to or live.
There are many Americans who hire illegal care givers, house cleaners and so on. Years ago in California, Pete Wilson had an illegal, I think the gal heading HP had one too.
My buddy, a highly decorated Viet Nam vet had one looking after him till he died. She gave him comfort and looked after his needs,. The couldn't find an American who would do it for the money.
There is more to this than meets the eye.
For the pittance the few illegals take from this country, the cost of an air craft carrier makes the price look small, and what does it do except roam around waiting to send off planes to bomb people we don't know.
Those aircraft carriers sure as hell don't help me mow my lawn.
Open borders would work fine if we didn't have a welfare state.
..just like a lot of other things.
So these Americans crying about losing their job can cross into Mexico or Canada and take jobs there without going through the processes required by their laws?
Why is this a one way street? They come here, get jobs and welfare... Americans go there, get jailed.
Yep, sounds fair and libertarian to me!
Since your not very sympathetic about Americans losing jobs it must mean you still have yours? If so, you are so typical.
And the only racists I have known are those that accuse others of being racist.
But what good is it being an American if I can't afford to hire someone else to cut my grass?!
Why didn't Obolma the keynan give a speech on Veteran's Day and say " We can't take care of our millions of Veterans but we can take care of millions of Illegals"? What Hyprocrisy... All these Illegal Tacos just leach off the system. They don't pay taxes and they drive around with no License or insurance and nobody does a fricken thing about it. They live 3 families to a home and pay cash for everything, the cash they got paid tax free. Whenever I come to a road project there's always 10 Tacos staring down the hole and one guy digging. Must be all those road projects Feinstein's husband gets ? By granting 5 million amnesty he will invite another 5 million to come. Read the news in Cali everyday, the violent crimes always have an offender that last name ends in Z. How about the Taco that shot and killed 3 cops in SAC last month? Oh yeah Mr. Marquez the illegal duchebag! These Beaners need to go back to their shit hole towns in Mexico and allow Americans to enjoy the space they pay taxes in.
Oh uh, we just lost our brakes and we're doing 100 MPH and the wall is approaching. Obama: Step on the gas.
This is not a demicunt/republicunt issue. It is a corporate agenda.
More people (regardless of identity) means more consumers and more indebtedness.
For Comcast, ATT, Bank of America and Wells Fargo, a US Citizen is about as important as no-fat milk in your coffee.
Rich developed countries have lower birth and growth rates. Baby boomers pulling back from the economy plus the reduction in workers funding social security mandates wholesale immigration in all its forms. All congress needs to be told is "you want to wind up like Japan?"
Mexico is a failed state. NATFA in particular killed off lower class farmers and otherwise paved the way for big US corporates to invade Mexico and control vast resources. Mexico would have a revolution if its people were not helped to leave for the US. A large portion of social welfare from the US States is wired directly to the Mexican economy.
US is projecting a 38% growth rate over the next 30 years. Is Europe? Japan? Even China and India do not have this planned growth.
This issue would not be so poisonous if a US person could own land and a business in Mexico without fear of death, dismemberment and imprisonment. Yet Mexico is a corporate fascist gangster paradise, so plan on the US political parties acting more like the PRI in the future and plan on your family scratching an existence down in the barrio going forward.
Mass special immigration is healthy, but counter productive during a depression.
Mexicans in America in particular are not stupid. They know they are being set up as a political underclass to be manipulated like the PRI they fled from in Mexico. The big shot democratic elites in the big cities will get a wake up call when socially conservative Mexican immigrants that played by rules the take the reigns of power.
I have no problem with mass executive amnesty for undocumented workers.
1) they are already here.
2) We have free movement of trade, free movement of capital, and so free movment of labor is appropriate and just.
"I have no problem with mass executive amnesty for undocumented workers"
so,,, breaking laws and living under dicktatorships are fine with you too?
Hiya rejected,
I like karma. United Fruit and the CIA 'exploited' Central America ever since the 50's
Such 'exploitation' included crushing unions with grizzly violence. Newspaaper editors were routinely assassinated.
Also, I have a plethora of presonal anecdotes that support the notion that illegals are better workers.
I don't have a problem if we had a referendum and voted for amnesty for those here who have worked, not taken welfare and not committed crimes - if coupled with genuine border controls first.
But I will call a cunt anyone who claims that the President has the lawful power to do so with an 'executive order'.
If you support an imperial, law making and breaking presidency, and especially only when its Rwed or Blue ion office, then you are a cunt - and a large part of the problem.
Hiya Jonathan
Are you maintaining the position that this country is run by laws?
If so, you have a juvenile view of how power operates.
(I am autonomous. And, I support zero politicians.)
Who says they are "workers." There is no process. There is no procedure. "Just do it, baby. 5M? 20M? Who knows.
Who says they are "workers." There is no process. There is no procedure. "Just do it, baby. 5M? 20M? Who knows.
So this 'free movement of labor' just applies to the US/Mexican border or all borders?
We already know your position, Chalky!
Anyone who buys the relabeling of those who entered this country illegally as "undocumented" workers, is A SHILL for the entire edifice that makes money off of them, that too, illegally.
They are Illegal Aliens and no amount of lies or who uses innocuous extra-legal definitions of them is going to change it.
Just another reason why border states need to secede if they choose too and deal with the illegal aliens themselves. Those who live two thousand miles away from the main impact of them are full of shit to think they have a better idea of what to do about illegal immigrants.
Both partys are corrupt when it comes to this issue so no help at all.
Secede and correct the problem in a New York minute.
Well if you don't like it, get off your ass and do something about it !!!!! ahah, I thought so
just bend over like usual
sarc.
The EXECUTIVE branch is to faithfully implement and enforce laws passed by the congress.
Okay Mr. peace prize constitutional scholar immigrant imposter, what part of that do you not understand?
This is QE4. If they can't create demand with low rates, they'll create it the old fashion way...by adding another 5-20mil consumers into the equation.
42 percent of new Medicaid signups are immigrants, their children November 13, 2014
HHS Chief: Obamacare for DREAMers November 12, 2014
Norbert Schlei Interview He was the architect of the 1965 immigration law
The leftists do more to disenfranchise US citizens than any other group in America.
This type of forced 'law' does more to hurt lower income individuals, it bloats the amount of people in the lower income bracket who are looking for work and drives pay-rates down.
Simple supply and demand.
Am sure business would love the cheap labor.
'Change You Can Believe in!'
Totally unconstitutional. The President does not have the power to set immigration law.
Art. 1 S8 C4:Powers of CONGRESS
"To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;"
That no one in congress is mentioning this clear cut violation means what?
But then Hussein Obama is an unconstitutional entity inhabiting the Oval Office, since he is not a natural born Citizen, due to his birth as a British subject of a British subject father, Obama Sr., an improper ascendant (ancestor-- see Federalist 68--- i.e the improper influence of a foreign ancestor). All of Congress knows this and all work to hide the treason they have committed. The well known reason for the natural born Citizen requirement is to prevent foreign influence and guarentee, to the highest extent possible, allegiance and attachment--- so it is impossible to think anyone born of foreign citizenship could be eligible. Obama CLEARLY lacks allegiance and attachment, and he told you so in "Dreams From My Father".
Obama is a Usurper of the Presidency and is usurping the power of Congress to set uniform immigration law.
5 000 000 huh... That will make some nice employment statistics...
Unlimited loophole. Outrageous. Rewriting laws at his whim. Total discretion as to enforcement.
'Yes We Can!'
Imagine! A US "President" who is not even a US citizen himself, but is actually a Kenyan citizen is granting US citizenship to 5 million illegals.
5 mil + 1!
Kinda funny actually, King O can make himself "legal" by granting himself Amnesty through an EO.
Fucking hilarious. Now I see the method to his madness. It actually makes perfect sense.
I wonder if they are furious enough to find thier balls
'Dreams of my Father!'
To the jobless mellienials who voted for this asshat.....Enjoy.
Still looking for "executive orders" in my Constitution. Maybe mine is out dated.
I did find in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 18 this, "The Congress shall have Power ... To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof."
Oops!. Looks like someone is acting Unconstitutional again.
An American, not US subject.
I also know what Article 3, Section 3 says. And I am Witness One.
Endeavor to persevere...... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsL6mKxtOlQ
ALL of this is to degrade, diminish and destroy America, Americans and the dollar. From gum chewing heard round the world, to amnesty, to QE at a trillion per year, ALL of it is to destroy America, Americans and the dollar and he's doing a bang up job.
Problem is, the only people who know it are armchair patriots.
he already won... we just don't realize it yet
'Change Can't Happen Without You!'
FUCK THAT!!!! HOW ABOUT YOU INCREASE THE WORKING VISA CAP FOR US EDUCATED FOREIGNERS FIRST. UNBELIEVABLE.....
'Obama For America!'
So do they have to enroll in ACA or will the Gobermint pick up that tab also. Free shit army looks to be getting bigger.
Earth to Congress members: Any of you going to stop this deranged ***hole from destroying what's left of the United States?
It just can't be said enough or forcefully enough - FUCK YOU OBOLA YOU HALF BREED KENYAN MARXIST FUDGE PACKING ASSHAT!
Seriously, when does this douche bag get impeached, then frog walked to the waiting guillotine along with his wide load tranny "wife"?
Increasing voters. Who cares?
This is increasing the tax base. That's all these people care about.
Don't do it! Don't declare yourself. You just get pay taxes like the rest of saps. Half your income will disappear overnight.
They will be mostly low income workers.
besides their S.S. and medicare contributions they will not pay fedral income taxes(or will get it all back in April).
Add in the earned income refund ($3800.00) per child, and the benifits of SNAP, WIC, and outright welfare.
Equals a giant net loss in revenue.
But you are still right because all the shits who support this action care about is votes.
At any cost.
Half your paycheck still walks out the door. And if you don't buy the health put option, the IRS will just withhold the credits and refund.
The tax refund season is going to be harsh for people in the coming years when they realize they get nothing back now
.."The tax refund season is going to be harsh for people in the coming years when they realize they get nothing back now"..
Lol, and how many people think of a tax return as found money and a bonus when all it was all along nothing more than an interest free loan that one has to argue with cutthroats then petition to have returned.
The fools really deserve this you gotta admit, half of America couldn't cash a five hundred dollar check past the third of the month yet drives around in a new car livin' large on the margin..
"tax base" you live in a fanasty world, they will get thier EBT/welfare/disability and everything else
ALL HAIL IMPERIAL LORD OBAMAO.....
Welfare? All they really have to do is become a Republican ONE percenter and get all the welfare they want.
Republicans love to talk about welfare for the poor. The problem is, they believe their own propaganda. Their uneducated voting base certainly does.
Welfare for the poor runs 1.5% of GDP excluding unemployment compensation, which is paid insurance, but Republicans lump it in at another 1.5%.
Except…right-wing Republican welfare, is running in the trillions.
1. Off-shore tax evasion schemes that surpass ten to fifteen trillion
2. Privatization schemes like prisons that forces taxpayers to pay prison companies for unused cells ($200 per day)
3. Defense contractor schemes that add profit to a job government does for zero profit (private truck drivers getting $120K and US soldier drivers get $30K)
4. The “Faith Based Initiative” scheme implemented by GW Bush that forces every taxpayer to fund churches. Pat Robertson took 500K in one year alone
5. Majority states that take more Federal money than they contribute are Red states.
6. Billions in oil and gas (currently at all time record profits) and farm subsidies
Next time you hear a constipated “conservative” rant about welfare, tell him to shove it.
'Foar moar years! Foar moar years! Foar moar years!'
More like " Cuatro Anos Mas!" Espanol is the new language the DemoncoDemoncrooks will speak
I think the headline might have been better if it had "furious" in quotes.
Funny...right-wing lunatics had nothing to say about Reagan giving amnesty to 5 million Mexicans. Oh right, cheap almost slave labor is a Republican dream-world. Anyway, who in hell is going to pay for our Social Security if WE DON'T MAKE THEM LEGAL. Conservatives are just dumber than cornflakes.
Reagan agreed to amnesty as part of an agreement to increase enforcement of the existing laws, and protecting the border. He got screwed out of the latter, and by the way, you sir are a Fuckface.
I've heard every excuse for Reagan...every single criminal act he did, "he regretted" ...or "he made a deal with Democrats" complete BULLSHIT. If he lost so many imaginary "deals" then he was certainly one huge failure as President. He sure liked to make "deals" with no supporting legality from the other side whatsoever.
And you Reagan dick-suckers will never admit Reagan should have died in jail, especially for making a deal to keep American hostages in Iran until his election. That's called TREASON for you ignorant Cons. Oh, BTW...Obama "regrets" having to emulate Reagan and give amnesty to Mexicans. Also, he's spending billions to "defeat our enemies"...just like Reagan, right? You Klansters are as transparent as your brain tissue.
In later years Reagan regretted "Amnesty". Re: SS, you must be a clown if you believe there is a SS "lockbox" it goes right into the general slush fund. It's a math problem, not a liberal / conservative problem.
go f yourself, idiot.
We're smarter than you IN OUR SLEEP...
We're smarter than you IN OUR SLEEP...
and SS cards which will get them Dr licenses in every state
I'll bet May Landreau is pissed. If this doesn't cause her R opponent to sweep the follow up elections the Louisiana just does not care.
I'll bet the Prez has just terminally upset the Dem Party big wigs. As long as they have Obama on their side he'll be like an anchor around their ankles.
Unless of course the Repubs fold. If that happens then it means there are evil robots overlords in charge and nothing anyone says or does makes a difference.
Simple solution...don't hire them! You'll know who they are by their cards.
They won't get hired. The illegals still here without the cards will.
They are not here to get "hired" for anything. They are here to fulfill Cloward-Piven.
there is a reasoned argument that shows illegal immigrants' contribution to the us <eco>no[log](m)y as net positive.
so, what happens if we start modifying the status quo?
will "legalized" immigrants' contribution increase, decrease, or remain the same?
what are the implications on "the natives" under each scenario?
and, remind us why this becomes a matter of debate?
junk and run.
be afraid of the tough questions.
what MIT or Harvard bicycle seat sniffin quiff thought this one up...???
A new dependent class.
Oh Boy!
drive the foreigners from our soil...and punish the elite collaborators
This rancid POS has insured ongoing conflict in this country, long after he slinks off. If we ever grow a pair, we'll make an EXAMPLE out of him. "we tortured some folks". So that's OK in his mind - if people have information in their brains that can endanger the country, torture extraction is justified. What is in his mind? If we actualluy have ANY defense against treason, we may find out. I want to see the laws against treason applied to this POS, and if we dont do it, we're telling the world 'Anerica is finished, sit back and watch it unwind.'
President Pimp has opened the door wide to explicit dictatorship. That dictator won't be him, a dictator has to have support from the productive classes and/or control over the military. Obama has neither and never will. So President Pimp may reap what he has sown. I can foresee a day when the natiional ethos is consumed with a desire for revenge against this evil criminal and his criminal hordes. If a determined man or woman is in charge, there will be NO HOLE DEEP ENOUGH or remote enough for President Pimp to hide in, no country will harbor him, even the Russians, because America will NUKE THEM if necessary to get our hands on his narrow ass.
I hate to say it, but all of this doesn't even consider his maximum Ebola importation policy: the treason is SO NAKED that it's unlikely Obama intends to ever leave office. Somehow he's going to avoid justice (he thinks) and the only way to do that is to stay in power.
('Those in the know' who PREFER HONESTY refer to Obama as 'President Pimp' because he knows 30% of the girls arriving at the southern border are raped on the way here, he profits from it, and his policies arranged it. The left is fine with the thousands of rapes. Their head pimp can literally do anything to anyone and it's OK with the left because they are unbridled evil.)
A Love Story:
Chalky and Chewbacca doing the Benito/Carla thing after the Reset.....
Hoist 'em high, men! This is the Fate of Traitors!
Yessir, Judge Bean!
Good post. You're helping me cope with my rage against this POS's latest amnesty order...I can't take him any more!
I said ( before the morons re-elected him) that Obomba would set back the dems a generation before he was through, and it looks like I was right on the money. Now maybe I can get my personal ship in order for my remaining time in this sorry world.
Nex Gen: it's your problem from now on, just levae me and mine alone!
AMNESTY = CIVIL WAR
Alternatively, the Republicans can counter - by allowing up to 10 million Slavs from e.g. Bulgaria, Ukraine, Russia, etc. to immigrate under accelerated timetables. They will serve as an effective counterbalance (and the women are often hot).
This is a "Tragedy of the Commons" type problem .
The commons is the global trading community . This includes currencies .
And cheap labor .
Without Ostrum Principles , the system collapses into a desperate hunt for relative advantages , tariff wars , etc
See
https://www.academia.edu/9289413/Relative_advantage_leads_to_war_
http://andreswhy.blogspot.com/2014/11/laundry-economics.html
Radicals love division and turmoil... the BathHouse maggot is just par for the course. He throws bombs all over... just not the traditional ones...
Let the false outrage begin.
You'd think Congress would DO something beside whine. Fucking pussies.
"Congress" is backing Chalky- behind the scenes.
They have options to stop this, such as defunding the upcoming budget: http://www.gramsgold.com/news/republicans-can-stop-an-executive-amnesty-...
I'm so furious about this, I fear I may have heart failure...really. I have NO ONE to vent to, in liberal-land of S. Florida....help me!!!
They have options to stop this, such as defunding the upcoming budget: http://www.gramsgold.com/news/republicans-can-stop-an-executive-amnesty-...
I'm so furious about this, I fear I may have heart failure...really. I have NO ONE to vent to, in liberal-land of S. Florida....help me!!!
amnesty = civil war.
count on it
Only if it interrupts Dancing With the Stars.
This is why conservative voters are the biggest fools on earth. This Republican Congress is only going to whine and complain and talk tough and then accept illegals because THAT WHAT THEIR BIG BUSINESS CONTRIBUTORS WANT. Then they can blame Democrats and get more idiots to vote for them and their corporate agenda. This election was won by the Republican ESTABLISHMENT...the Tea Party and libertarians LOST BIG. They'll let Ted Cruz and other knuckleheads scream and shout to rile up people like YOU...but make no mistake...you've been had.