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Guest Post: Did They Want More Violence In Ferguson? 10 'Coincidences' Too Glaring To Ignore
Submitted by Michael Snyder of The Economic Collapse blog,
Was it a conspiracy or was it incompetence? Those appear to be the only two alternatives that we are left with after the horrific violence that we witnessed in Ferguson on Monday night. The first round of Ferguson rioting back in August took everyone by surprise, but this time authorities had more than three months to prepare. They had the ability to control precisely when the grand jury decision would be announced and how many cops and National Guard troops would be deployed on the streets. But despite all this, the violence in Ferguson on Monday night was even worse than we witnessed back in August.
Either this was a case of almost unbelievable incompetence, or there was someone out there that actually wanted this to happen. If someone out there is actually trying to provoke more violence in Ferguson, then the rioters are being played like a fiddle. Most of them have no idea that they could potentially just be pawns in a game that is far larger than they ever imagined. The only other alternative to explain what we just saw is incompetence on a level that is absolutely laughable. Something definitely does not smell right about all of this, and let us hope that at some point the American people get the truth.
The following are 10 “coincidences” from Monday night in Ferguson that are too glaring to ignore…
#1 Federal, state and local law enforcement authorities had more than three months to prepare for the violence that would follow the announcement of the grand jury decision. The mainstream media endlessly hyped this controversy and everyone knew that trouble would be brewing. But despite an enormous amount of time to prepare, very little was actually done to prevent any violence from happening.
#2 Someone made the decision to make the public announcement about the grand jury decision in the evening. Anyone involved in law enforcement knows that crowd control is far more difficult after dark. This also ensured that instead of being tied up with work or school, a maximum number of protesters would be able to be involved in the violence.
#3 Fortunately for the mainstream media, the announcement of the grand jury decision was perfectly timed to provide the largest possible number of prime time viewers for the big news networks.
#4 Just like back in August, no law enforcement authorities of any kind responded while dozens of businesses were vandalized, looted and set of fire.
#5 According to Ferguson Mayor James Knowles, National Guard troops were purposely held back from intervening in the rioting that was unleashed when the grand jury decision was made known to the public…
In a press conference, he called the delay “deeply concerning” and said the Guard troops were available but were not deployed when city officials asked.
The troops had been readied last week by Gov. Jay Nixon as the grand jury announcement neared. But as gunshots rang out in the night and looters torched buildings, they were nowhere to be seen.
#6 It is being reported that the heavily armed National Guard troops were limited to “keeping the peace at a courthouse, patrolling the outskirts of town and preventing disturbances in other suburbs” as horrific violence raged in the heart of Ferguson on Monday night.
#7 Missouri Lieutenant Governor Peter Kinder has accused Missouri Governor Jay Nixon of holding back the National Guard troops because of pressure from the Obama administration. On Monday night, he angrily made the following statement to Fox News…
“Is the reason that the National Guard was not in there because the Obama Administration and the Holder Justice Department leaned on you to keep them out? I cannot imagine any other reason why the governor who mobilized the National Guard would not have them in there to stop this.”
#8 The Washington Post has documented that Attorney General Eric Holder had been in direct contact with Governor Nixon and had expressed “frustration” with the fact that the National Guard had been activated…
A top aide to Holder called the governor’s office earlier this week to express Holder’s displeasure and “frustration,” according to a Justice Department official.
“Instead of de-escalating the situation, the governor escalated it,” said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak on the subject. “He sent the wrong message. The tone of the press conference was counterproductive.”
#9 Firefighters in Ferguson did not immediately respond to calls to put out the multiple fires that were set by protesters. As a result, many businesses essentially burned to the ground. But this did make for some amazing television footage.
#10 In the worst of the “war zones”, journalists with cameras and microphones were crawling all over the place while there were hardly any police to be seen at all. How is it possible that law enforcement could have failed so badly? Could it be possible that this was orchestrated on purpose?
Sadly, as I have written about previously, the civil unrest that we are witnessing in Ferguson is just a small preview of what is coming to America.
The anger and frustration that are seething under the surface in this country have reached a boiling point. Instead of coming together, we are seemingly more divided than ever. Americans have been trained to hate one another, fear one another and blame one another. I fear that we are not too far away from actually becoming ungovernable.
And when the next major wave of the economic crisis strikes and we start experiencing real suffering in this nation, the temper tantrums that we are going to witness in our major cities are going to make what is happening in Ferguson right now look like a Sunday picnic.
So buckle up and hold on, because it is going to be a really bumpy ride from here on out.
Ferguson is not the end – it is just the beginning of a horrible new chapter in American history.
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I wonder if there's a large real estate development conveniently planned for Ferguson now? Or perhaps the chinese are eyeing some new areas to launder money?
The coverup this time is really alarming. For example, no major US news source has given any coverage to reports of a huge hulking rioter making some tame metrosexual hand over his clothes for the crime of being in the neighborhood while these events were going on.
Non-US media have covered it but even they persist in using hideous PC descriptions of the perpetrators to avoid inflaming the situation. Here is a US alternative pickup of the story as reported overseas.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/forced-to-strip-naked-in-the-street-shocking-scenes-as-rioters-steal-clothes-and-rifle-through-bags-as-people-make-their-way-home.html
Wolves have to obtain sheep's clothing somehow.
Thanks for the link. A coupe of years ago on ZH there was an article about "the best self defense (or martial arts) for when SHTF", or something similar. Thanks to that article I picked up Hapkido. I may still get swarmed in a situation like the ones in your link, but I can promise several of those barbarians would be heading to the ER for broken bones, crushed tracheas, and ruined knees and wrists.
Best block = don't be there
I almost used the link from AR15.com because of the comments.
Sample: "I can guarantee one thing...if somebody tells me to give them all my valuables and strip on the street, one of us is leaving in a body bag. No way will I be degraded like that by anyone. Period."
Your story and your link are in Birmingham, UK. Wrong country, wrong culture.
I know exactly what I'm doing even if you assume that I do not.
Judo-style trolling? AKA put a blatant Black-on-White hate crime into the Ferguson story mix, hoping/expecting responses with a bunch of N-words and hate so you could respond with "see, I knew you were racist?" Sorry, the story you posted is grotesque in its own right. As is the bounty of knock-out game/polar bear hunting/peckerwood shooting crimes over the past few years in the States.
In a world where everyone is glued in fascination to their TV sets and telling each other that Americans are a bunch of lowlifes and that shit doesn't ever happen in their little corner of the planet, I thought they might enjoy a little stroll through their own neck of the woods.
Ferguson is nothing, nothing compared to what happened in the UK in 2011.
But, alas, too deep for many to grasp the concept so I'll have to opt for a simpler, more direct presentation next time.
Happy Thanksgiving to all
Fair enough. Glad to see it wasn't what I suspected. Happy Thanksgiving to you as well.
edit: Have you seen any stories globally as horrific as the 13-month old baby being shot/killed by a 17-year old mugger because his mother didn't have enough cash with her? For the sheer lack of humanity at a micro scale, that one takes the cake for me. If I were the responding cops to that crime scene, I probably would never again get a good night's sleep.
Stories such as Ferguson can be found virtually in every country in the world. The grievances might be different, but riots and looting are not an exclusive American franchise.
Just saw your edit. They invented the Apache sleigh ride for dregs like that guy.
Further observation for non-Americans:
An Apache sleigh ride is where you tie a rope around the ankles of someone and then drag them behind your horse through an endless landscape of cactus.
Tarabel:
Many Trolls stuck in airports because of snow ...
A nick torn between man and woman, small talk, a hot woman image ...
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The keyboard is like eyes.
What alphabet soup you work?
You know that here in ZH are working a list of Trolls?
hehe.
Hap Ki Do, when properly administered, disables opponents with minimal effort.
Amazing how a big hulking thug turns into a whinny little bitch with one wrist lock.
It's obvious you guys are armchair bar fighters.
You will find, if you ever get to truly test your skills, that things will not go as you expect them to. Not unless you pick a fight with a (friendless) guy you outweigh by 50%. Even then, you might get a bit of a surprise.
I know this from hard and bitter experience.
You should learn to fight while drunk.
Plenty of practice. My rehydration drink was (is) always a bottle of water with a healthy lacing of rough red wine. Cheaper, tastier, more effective than gatorade. And you can water your plants with it.
Ulysses and Achilles drank the same. My case rests.
FWIW dont forget the eyes, learn some basic prating mantis stikes. Cant see? Game over!
Works every time. Not that I know...
"The eyes are the groin of the head." —Dwight Schrute
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VknqbZhgehM
Maybe some military tankers can explain why it would be difficult to 'blind' a tank and thereby cripple it. As far as I know there are only a few optical devices that are critical for operation.
Any thoughts?
Any guys from Manny Agrella's Tong Leong school out there?
Did you notice the article is from August 2011, not Nov 2014?
Shhh.
https://www.google.com.br/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad...
The appropriate response from the Black community is not to loot private property. The appropriate response is shoot cops first, this way they avoid being shot. Blacks should secure weapons any way they can and when they see a cop, they shot at sight. This way they avoid getting killed. Simple logic.
What I want to know is where are they going to get their pizza from now?
Not from the Cops. A good cop.... well it does not exist.
Pesronally it does not bother me if Black people shoot cops at sight and Gov buildings. But it bothers me if the destroy private property.
I think not protecting the private property, but only gov building was a deliberate move to show "look the looters are really really bad".
This could have been avoided with a trial... a simple trial...
DUPE
tarabel, that isn't Ferguson 2014 but Britain 2011.
Shhhh.
Tarabel:
Many Trolls stuck in airports because of snow ...
Many idiots talking shit waiting for their flights canceled on the east coast.
An insane amount of stupid people.
Where is Kirk, where the rest of the Enterprise?
: - /
Covering for worthless black savages is a full-time endeavor for the Communist media.
Let a few riots happen so even more draconian laws limiting liberty and freedom can be passed in the land of the free. A fascist, police state needs ever more drastic police laws to go along with the lopsided wealth that America already has:
The Fed Won: America's 0.1% Are Now Wealthier Than The Bottom 90%http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-11/fed-won-americas-01-are-now-wea...
A more perfect fascism evolves everyday in the land of the free
I heard a financial planner speak on the radio the other day. He started off by saying that the wealth inequality between the 0.1% and the botom 90% has never been bigger, and that's why it's never been a better time to be rich in America. Therefore, listen to him, max out on 401K, stocks, etc. Really some of the most deluded shit I ever heard.
There is a scene in latest Terry Gillian film, the zero theorem, in which a billboard add for the TV investing channel DuMBC has the following catch cry
"Everyone is getting rich, except you, tune in to DuMBC"
What did you expect from a community agitator elected as President? The Fed is composed of a bunch of progressive elitists who want nothing more than to create a feudal society out of a once free nation.
Did any of the protestors ever stop to think about what prospective employers are thinking about blacks when so many blacks act so badly ?
Are the protestors really protesting because of their unfulfilled expectations for jobs under Obama but refuse to break racial solidarity and blame Obama ? The white cop was handy so blame him.
"Immigration, diversitity and multi-culturalism". What a wonderful place the loony left has turned Amerika into.
And last but not least. Google search "wikipedia racial gangs in America" and get wised up.
"Did any of the protestors ever stop to think about what prospective employers are thinking about blacks when so many blacks act so badly?"
Thanks for that. I needed a good belly laugh after all this drama.
Right. Simple answer - No.
As a guy that sits in on interviews of prospective employees, the answer is no.
Another point: If a black dude driving down River Oaks Blvd breaks down, chances are, he's going to make it home safely, and he won't have to worry about anyone jacking with him or his car while he arranges his situation.
When a white guy driving down MLK Blvd. breaks down, do you think he might go into "Red Alert"?
I wish I could be proven wrong about having to be on red alert around negroes, but that day hasn't happened yet.
Why does it have to be either/or incompetence or conspiracy. Like Obamacare, you can have both at the same time! They aren't logically exclusive in any case. I vote for both at work, as in 9/11, the Iraq war , the simultaneous creation of the income tax and the FED etc.
Riddle me this?
Which high profile African American had the most to gain from the civil unrest on Monday night?
wait for it...
If you answered Bill "get-me-off-the-f*cking-front-page" Cosby then go to the head of the class - the African American Hollywood Mafia has more "juice" than you think!
Well look at #7. "Obama Administration and the Holder Justice Department leaned on you to keep them out? I cannot imagine any other reason why the governor who mobilized the National Guard would not have them in there to stop this.”
What better way to Try and Justify all the things put in place after 9-11?
- DHS
- TSA
- Rendition, Torture, Drone Killing, Endless War
- Fighting a war against people with no Government, No Army, navy, Air Force, no bases, no camps, no ports, no hubs of operations, no cities... a war against guerrillas 12,000 miles away Spending $1 Dollars involving 1 Million people is asinine
- Suspending Civil Rights, right to attorney, speedy trial, public hearing, trial by jury, freedom of speech, public defender, freedom from cruel punishment or isolation
- MIC Industry of $10 Trillion in 12 years
- NSA Spying, proliferation of government gathering of personal data, recruiting tech companies & phone companies into the Spying Network
- Culture of Secrecy and monitoring of banking, proliferation of government agencies, government secret contractors, and secret government data
Hm... lot to Justify for Obama, DOD, MIC, Tech Companies, and all the Federal Agencies
Riots, Unrest, and Terrorism attempts even FBI Entrapment cases help justify Federal Government, Permanent War, and Suspension of Human Rights.
Remember 9-11, all those Saudi Arabian Youths with nothing to do... breeds Unrest & Radicals? Just like USA?
Ungovernable? Blame the victim. It couldn't possibly be that we are badly governed and have been for a very long time.
Since the Governor didn't want to answer the question from day 1 it could only be the next level up in the criminal hierarchy of the pyramid
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-11-24/ferguson-grand-jury-decision-li...
Here's a few free kind-el books some of you Americans may find a good read. Only free through Wednesday USA time
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http://www.amazon.com/Domestic-Enemies-Reconquista-Trilogy-Book-ebook/dp...
http://www.amazon.com/Enemies-Foreign-Domestic-Trilogy-Book-ebook/dp/B00...
ALL OF THESE SHOULD BE READ IF YOU LOVE REAL FREEDOM
But seriously, I agree that this was allowed to happen and it was done so for a reason - so that LEO etc could smugly say that the Grand Jury decision was completely justifiable, after all:
"See how THEY are? THIS is EXACTLY what brave Officer Wilson was facing! THESE people are just simply un-governable!"
You expect too much of public officials.
They announced at night so the kids could get home from school.
They didn't defend small businesses and franchises but instead the organs of the Kleptoligarchy; notice that no public buildings or banks were burned to the ground.
They didn't send out the National Guard or protect businesses because they would have had to shoot people. They can't shoot people in a crowd, or even looting, just in a SWAT operation on one house.
It's the politically correct approach; pretend you're not a police state, pretend the rule-of-law still exists, but let them riot and burn down the little stores and shops and let people fend for themselves, just like the L.A. Riots.
It's a psychological war now, with people and places being taken out piecemeal and one at a time
It's a no-win for the sheriff's and local police, the local business owners, and the good people - but a win for the banks, the kleptoligarchy, and the hooligans.
A brilliant analysis.......
Same people that created 9/11, Sandy Hoax, the Boston Smoke Bombing are still around, so no surprise.
"Never waste a good crisis."
An American, not US subject.
and never waste a good crisis that can help boost GDP.
Of course.
THEY want YOU divided by Race so you do not see the Tyranny!
The maxim divide et impera was attributed to Philip II of Macedon, and together with the maxim divide ut regnes were utilised by the Roman ruler Caesar and the French emperor Napoleon. The example of Gabinius exists, parting the Jewish nation into five conventions, reported by Flavius Josephus in Book I, 169-170 of The Wars of the Jews (De bello Judaico).[1] Strabo also reports in Geography, 8.7.3[2] that the Achaean League was gradually dissolved under the Roman possession of the whole of Macedonia, owing to them not dealing with the several states in the same way, but wishing to preserve some and to destroy others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divide_and_rule
“As long as it is admitted that the law may be diverted from its true purpose--that it may violate property instead of protecting it--then everyone will want to participate in making the law, either to protect himself against plunder or to use it for plunder.”
? Frédéric Bastiat, The Law
“The politician attempts to remedy the evil by increasing the very thing that caused the evil in the first place: legal plunder.”
? Frédéric Bastiat
If the instrument of "legal plunder" is the law, then "Law Enforcement Officers," LEOs, are actually Plunder Enforcement Officers,PEOs.
An American, not US subject.
Stupid fucking question. Of course they wanted Feguson to break out in violence. The MSM was practically frothing at the mouth as they tried to whip up a frenzy. The administration wants the violence to further divide the nation and to expand the police state. There are several reasons why TPTB wanted Ferguson blow up, all beneficial for them and bad for us.
and as paul krugman keeps pointing out - government spending (overtime for national guard, cops, replacing torched cop cars, bullets, tear gas, etc. etc.) - and OBVIOUSLY - broken windows are very good for GDP. a win/win situation.
what a shame...............
AND let's not forget the massive presence of federal agencies in the area, with accompanying 'undercover' infiltration of any and all groups, neighborhoods, businesses, and street corner hang outs. It brings new meaning to the old phrase of outside agitators. Looking at the maps, it is still amazing to see the actual scale vs. the media presentation of the 'horrific' violence. Even government agitation has gotten pretty pathetic and obvious these days.
Somebody is going to purchase real estate for pennies on the dollar, then use federal grants to rebuild the community.
I watched some CNN on the night of the event. I kept laughing and saying to my husband it was like watching "Man bites dog" or "Spinal Tap" that I expected the journalists themselves to start a car on fire or throw some bricks just to stir some shit up. The story was so about them and their travails at times it was funny. Making the news, so to speak.
Wolf Blitzer had a big chubby all day waiting for the news to come down so he could gleefully report about the ensuing riots.
That dude is fucking whacked.
...."Man bites dog" or "Spinal Tap"....
Ok. That explains a lot. It could be we are related.
I think that as long as the jungle apes only burn down their own towns... fine... they come into any neighborhoods other than black... and they will learn just what the 2nd Amendment means... and why Obunga is so intent on grabbing the guns from law abiding citizens.. politically fomented riots don't work as well if the sheep that are led to riot get mowed down like wheat.
Thug Monday, Whiteout Wednesday and Black Friday.
Been a great week for America....
My cat came back home on Monday after being lost for three weeks. I think that makes it a pretty great week.
I hate it when my dinner runs away.....
Was that an extra n by accident?
There's not a happier day that that.
Had the same thing happen with a cat that I didn't really like that much, but my wife did.
Two weeks of tears sure changed my thinking about that cat.
There's nothing worse than losing yer pussy ;-)
"Did They Want More Violence In Ferguson?"
Yes, quite likely. Blacks can always be relied upon to riot, loot, smash the place up and burn the place down. That turns the public against them and into the arms of Nanny State for protection.
Presto.
On the day of the announcement of the decision, the British press was reporting that the decision was leaked early to the AP, so everything came down before the authorities were ready. Only the Justice Department and the Grand Jury knew the decision at that point, so that is where the leak would have come from...
funny how bashing jews is bad for the credibility of a web site but bashing black people is good for the web site.
israel is trying to officially call itself an apartheid state and there is no post about it here?
they say the President of Israel is against it.
But if it passes it will only damn the present regime even more.
there is a lot of support, however. my take is nutandyahoo must be literally insane to even think to propose this sort of law in this political climate. it is as if he is daring someone to do something about him. he may get his wish.
Institutionalized apartheid already is the practice in Israel; it was only last year Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu declared the influx of blacks into Israel a threat to the country's security and Jewish character, backing up his words with a new fence along the Egyptian border and a law allowing police to imprison undocumented migrants for up to three years. As for Netanyahu’s steps to officiate the Apartheid State of Israel:
GUARDIAN (November 23, 2014)Netanyahu argued that the law (that officially defines Israel as the nation-state of the Jewish people) was necessary because people were challenging the notion of Israel as a Jewish homeland. “There are many who are challenging Israel’s character as the national state of the Jewish people. The Palestinians refuse to recognise this and there is also opposition from within. “There are those, including those who deny our national rights, who would like to establish autonomy in the Galilee and the Negev. “Neither do I understand those who are calling for two states for two peoples but who also oppose anchoring this in law. They are pleased to recognise a Palestinian national state but strongly oppose a Jewish national state.” ...
Netanyahu appeared to confirm that there would be differential rights for Israeli Jews and other minorities. He said that while all could enjoy equal civil rights, “there are national rights only for the Jewish people - a flag, anthem, the right of every Jew to immigrate to Israel and other national symbols.”
Cabinet ministers, including Netanyahu, separately proposed stripping Palestinian attackers of their residency rights in occupied East Jerusalem in response to a wave of deadly violence. “It cannot be that those who harm Israel, those who call for the destruction of the state of Israel, will enjoy rights like social security,” Netanyahu said, adding that the measure would complement house demolitions and serve as a deterrent.
http://2164th.blogspot.com/2014/11/netanyahu-takes-steps-to-officiate.html
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jul/15/world/la-fg-israel-refugees-20130716
Jews don't burn businesses, they buy them out.
They buy then out after they’ve moved in competition to overcome their sales and for major businesses they have access to banks that have connections with the Fed’s printing press. Of course, the biggest business burned out in America lately was the Twin Towers where Larry Silverstein collected a mountain of money.
History once again is repeating itself.
Professor Werner Sombart, a German economist and sociologist, in his work Die Juden und das Wirtschaftsleben (The Jews and Modern Capitalism) sums up today’s situation as he did Europe’s in 1911:
“If we want to make clear in one sentence the direction in which the modern political economy is moving we can say: the stock-exchange agents of the banks are becoming an ever-increasing measure the dictators of economic life. All economic happenings are more and more subordinate to the decisions of finance. The question whether a new industrial undertaking is to spring up or an existing one to be developed; whether the owner of a shop or a store is to get the means to extend his business, all these questions are decided in the offices of Banks and Bankers.
“In just the same way the sale of products is becoming, in an ever greater degree, a problem of finance. Our greatest industries are indeed already just as much financial associations as industrial undertakings.”
Your comment gets a 'thumbs up' whether it was said tongue-in-cheek or completely seriously.
On the other hand, there is a certain type of 'lightening' we learn about growing up in New York City.
It is explained by when one Jewish gentleman says to another, "I'm sorry to have heard about your fire." and he receives the response,
"Sshh, It hasn't happened yet."
Sometimes, after the buyout, if things don't go as well as planned, there is also insurance fraud.
And, that's not just a Jewish thing, but they seem to be pretty good at it.
(When silver hit $50/ounce back when the Hunt Brothers cornered the market, I've been told by insurance investigators that they had more reports of stolen silver in Borough Park and Williamsburg, Brooklyn in a week than they had received in the prior decade.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nwvCGLmFEA
Israel is a Jewish state and has been since it declared statehood in 1947.
the conspiracy is the agenda being promoted from outside Ferguson. some group or groups has coordinated these protests in various cities around the country, really what do they care in Oakland? the people in Ferguson said so, after the August riots that very few of the people in the streets were locals. Ferguson became a cause celebre, for whatever reason. did the Obama people do this? doubtful, although they need all the distractions they can to dilute the results of the midterm elections. the Trayvon Martin trial was a far bigger miscarriage of justice, but the media timing of this is much more useful, and in their second terms presidents like to payback their core constituents. Obamas economy hasnt given the black voters anything, they have actually lost ground, but are they angry at the president? no theyre angry at that white cop, Obamas tone and inflection when he said the grand jury decision should be respected, and violence is not acceptable, well the way he said those words said volumes to me, but then i dont trust or like the man, and i am still officially a member of his party. i am of the mind that he cant do anything right, but anyone who thinks he has is welcome to offer their view. my mind is made up. next please
http://www.engadget.com/2014/11/26/cia-homeland-security-emails/
They ALWAYS keep backups.
insurance and chaos are close cousins, no?
Your article did not distinguish between the two citizen groups. There were “protesters” and “looting rioters”. One group was peacefully protesting and the other group was violently committing crimes. Lumping them all together as “protesters” is a disservice to the reader and to the peaceful protesters.
Other than that, your article was right on. Clearly, the actions and non-actions of the authorities are straight out of the fascist play-book of incising rioters. I am sure that the federal authorities were providing provocateurs to place blame on the crowd.
My favorite was the abandoned police car trick, parked in the middle of the street with no one around; provocateurs rolled the police car over and set it on fire. Amazingly, as usual, no close-up pictures of the provocateurs were taken and no one was arrested. The rest of the fascist police state act was standard crowd baiting procedure.
wait until the gov teat goes dry
Honestly, I was surprised that with so cheap gasoline Molotov cocktails did not fly more in Fergson.
US NGOs in countries where they want to destabilize teach correctly how to do, turn and launch such pyrotechnic articles.
Do not saw any bus photo burned to the chassis as meeting in Brazil, Venezuela, Egypt, Ukraine etc. .
hehe.
It's the high Missouri Container Redemption charge that makes the bottles unaffordable.
Here is Justice Scalia's comments on this grand jury procedure...It speaks for itself :
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/11/26/3597322/justice-scalia-expla...
On Monday, Prosecutor Bob McCulloch announced that a grand jury had decided not to indict Darren Wilson, the officer who killed Michael Brown. But that decision was the result of a process that turned the purpose of a grand jury on its head.
Why?
i was going to bring this up but its a weak crowd.
no one really knows the role of the grand jury as the exclusive tool of the prosecuting attorny. the purpose is to measure the strength of a case based upon the evidence the prosecutor presents to show he has enough evidence to give him a chance to convict. i was wondering about all the exculpatory evidence that was presented BY THE PROSECUTOR (ONLY) to the grand jury when the purpose was to present evidence of guilt ONLY.
the legalese is obviously lost on everyone includiong the alt press.
Hey, if you read the world press you get the distinct impression that from all perspectives this grand jury decision was manipulated and contrary to all evidence.
If the procedure has been so blatantly manipulated by the local attorney this decision should be annuled.
This is what Scalia's reasoning is pointing at.
As for all the fall out and hype that has torn the country apart, it is attributable to a failure of due process of LAW.
Its time for America to realise that justice is not fair handed, based on the racial divide that still exists (and will no doubt get worse as the crisis evolves) 50 years after ML King's "I have a dream" speech.
The young are making this very clear.
he gets away with it because there is no recourse. who is going to prosecute the prosecuting attorney for malpractice. the only prosecution if there is one is at the ballot box. could the brown parents sue?
they got away with it. i have to admit you will have a hard time convincing many people what happened here but they fucking got away with and i have to give them credit for how they did it. very, very smart.
"...the world press..." you're a stand up comic and you're trying out some new material?
more navel gazing?
Your cultural arrogance is awesome.
Your knowledge of Payback is something you could put into a matchbox.
Destroy your national cultural fabric on ethnic or socio-cultural lines and you destroy the Republic.
Good luck.
Grand Jury is a way of making a prosecution happen. When the prosecutor throws up his hands and says "fuck it I'm up for election" and makes it happen.
You call a Grand Jury when a 20-year veteran of the school administration is caught allegedly diddling an underage student: you don't want to charge him but you must.
Sort of like when your toddler doesn't want to eat his creamed pears but you spent $1.49 on it and you'll be goddamned if he won't fucking eat it.
By contrast, the Ferguson Grand Jury was less a slam dunk and more a festival of exposition, a beautiful screenplay of discovery. Like if Roger Corman directed a CSI: The Prosecutor working to noodle out the right truth from the most important witness with no cross-examination.
In other words, this Grand Jury was the thing everyone with a brain expected.
It used to be the case that the prosecutor was appointed AFTER a true bill was returned. It is a relatively recent developent that grand juries are tools of the state. It defeats the purpose of having to obtain an indictment and gives the prosecutors the ability to go after whomever they want. Or block the prosecution of someone, Darren Wilson, they want to clear.
You do realize that the prosecutor also the discretion to look at evidence, and decide that this pile of BS isn't even worth presenting to a grand jury. And that had the grand jury voted to move the process forward, the only people who would be sent over jail over the Michael Brown killing would be the BLACKS who perjured themselves before the grand jury.
The whole process is kabuki theater. Justice is a process, not an outcome. In this case the process was more fucked than usual, but look at the alternatives.
perhsps you haven't noticed but the prosecutors job is to prosecute not to defend. he doesn't look at a case from how strong the defense is but how strong the conviction chance is. that is the sole purpose.
for him to present evidence of innocence to a grand jury is mal practice at worst, incompetence at best and probably just legal conniving to save his sorry ass..
Actually no.
As an officer of the court, he is "supposed to" present all evidence he knows of, it would be found out during the discovery phase of a trial anyways if he intends to use it. To do otherwise is "wasting the courts time" as the exculpatory evidence was known but not presented and would come out at trial.
I have no love for prosecuters generally as the have the power and all the financing of the state behind them if they really want you, whereas the defendant must rely on his/her own means or charity.
Thats why you are PRESUMED innocent because of the arsenal at the states discretion to use...or not.
Exactly these guys above are ignorant, holding back clear exculpatory evidence is a great way to waste resources and create travesty after travesty...
Haven't they indicted enough ham sammiches already? While they may get 99% conviction rate in federal courts, it's a bit harder to convict that same ham sammich in other courts, particularly if the sammich isn't willing to plea guilty... Guilt by trial is established in roughly 5% of cases (depending on study) and occurs less often than dismissal by trial. Do you really want the State to waste hundreds of millions of dollars in Ferguson debt serf tax revenues (once police overtime for ther added year(+) of made-for-TV-drama is added) just so they can throw a bunch of blacks in jail as a result of the Michael Brown killing while the cop still walks free?
The prosecutor shouldnot be involved in the grand jury at all. It is to be a citizen investigative body. Usually the prosecutors manipulate the jury so as to get an indictment. In this case the GJ was manipulated to get a no bill.
If the cop was Mark Fuhrman, he would have been declared guilty, because Fuhrman is a racist name.
Getting caught perjuring yourself before a judge can do that, as well as sink your "side" of the case entirely, regardless of the guilt or innocence of the accused. Don't lie under oath. If you insist on lying under oath, do it well, and don't get caught. (And pray your side's counsel has more competence than to let an F Lee Bailey railroad some lightweight judge into allowing bullshit cross examinations like that.)
The entirety of the quote...
"It is the grand jury’s function not ‘to enquire … upon what foundation [the charge may be] denied,’ or otherwise to try the suspect’s defenses, but only to examine ‘upon what foundation [the charge] is made’ by the prosecutor. Respublica v. Shaffer, 1 Dall. 236 (O. T. Phila. 1788); see also F. Wharton, Criminal Pleading and Practice § 360, pp. 248-249 (8th ed. 1880). As a consequence, neither in this country nor in England has the suspect under investigation by the grand jury ever been thought to have a right to testify or to have exculpatory evidence presented."
...meaning, it is not the grand jury's obligation to try, judge or convict. It is only to find out if there is enough evidence to bring charges. They had all six charges before them that they could have used, from involuntary manslaughter to first degree murder.
None were found to be appropriate according to the evidence.
The interested party does not in fact have "a right" (secret grand juries happen all the time) to come before them. But it doesn't preclude them from being given "a privelge" to come before them.
Six eyewitnesses who's story never changed confirmed Wilsons "privelged" testimony but that still was not physical evidence. It was this evidence and eyewitnesses that led to no charges being filed.
As an aside...Think Progress?...lol...the last lawyer you want defending you in a capital case is a leftwinger ;-)
no. the opinion states the prosecuting attorney presents his case for conviction. there is no defense involved nor is there obligated to be. the grand jury decides whether there is enough evidence to present a case for conviction ONLY because the defense does not have to prove innocence. it is not a situation where the prosecutionsays stuff like, "we have this here but this over here says it is not true." it is not a discovery process by any means except the discovery of the prosecution's case ONLY for conviction.
No, the entire purpose of a grand jury is to decide if there is enough evidence to ATTEMPT a trial for a conviction. All you can ever get out of a grand jury is an indictment, a charge(s), it doesn't mean anyones guilty of anything even if they decide to go ahead with it.
In laymans terms, its just an allegation, an accusation.
For instance, I can accuse someone of being a pedophile but it doesn't make it true, especially if they had 90yr witnesses around them 24/7, in a secluded cabin, 500 miles from any town, during which the accuser said it happened.
Its just an accusation and is treated as such, the evidence is what REALLY matters, not the charge(s) or the process.
You were correct when you identified the grand jury as a tool of the Prosecution. Speaking of indicting ham sandwiches, any skilled and overzealous prosecutor could go before a grand jury and secure an indictment against YOU (or anyone else who posts on ZH) for the murder of any number of banksters.
Does that mean a prosecutor should seek such an indictment, and ignore all the exculpatory evidence in order to do so?
And isn't the larger issue here the abuse of the legal process in order achieve desired specific outcomes by those with power?
None were found appropriate according to the evidence PRESENTED. The choice of what to present, and how to present it, was clearly made in service to the goal of not getting an indictment.
thinkprogress.org...jesus, why don't you just pick the corn outta their feces?
yer a moron,
#2, protestors....work or school...hahahahahahahahahahahahah HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TARD
Operation Cerberus: Buy time for the current regime, ameliorate and explain widespread rioting, negotiate sale prices with small .biz and big .biz.
1. Find big story and use it to build chaos, expose traitors and get your friends paid (paging Al Sharpton, that gastric bypass ain't payin' for itself)
2. Use same story as the timpani in a macabre three-month symphony of lies
• covering the death itself
• showing the truth about rampant cop killings
• explaining the strife truly behind faltering local economies
3. Make .biz begin to understand The New Retail Economy. To succeed you gotta kill keystone markup, add services, and add value-added functions. It's a cold world out there.
Product? Agents up your ass so far you can taste Dep gel, shitty consumer products, more mental masturbation all around. If Jim Morrison weren't an admiral's unwitting CIA experiment and a total pussy who couldn't hold his liquor, I'd say "this is the end."
Yes of course they want the violence to kill the poor and then introduce more laws to 'protect'
Devide and conquer
lets look at this "folks" since time began "races" have been devided that being said it's a given part to the natural law of all things living. get with the fact that we are all animals stop thinking your special ..You're NOT!
Once again since time began there have always and I stress ALWAYS been strife and wars between races each trying to conquer the other.
If you think you are somehow going to create this absurd fucking unity of multicultural multiracism "can't we all just get along " utopic bullshit well sorry to ruin your fuckin day. Divide and conquer and multiculture are 2 sides of the same destructive force.
now heres where the key to turning this shit on them lays.... Divide and divide even more it's simple logic ... by dividing and abiding by natural law you strengthen your race and it's values. You also have a very clear picture of your enemy no matter what race they are. The more you cry of the devide and conquer game the more white faces show up in the crowd of the FSA and un-educated vermin ....and thats just where they want you...fighting against your own race....what you will witness is the 2nd civil war not a revolutionary one. We will fight brother against brother once again so pick your side carefully.
In the reallity of all this you will see that the gov will take the side of the lesser race therefore exposing the true nature of the enemy. They do not want to have to try to rule a strong freethinking educated populace it will crush them and they know it.
The winner of this whole thing boils down to whom fights hardest.. nothing more and nothing less. So far they are winning they have convinced the white majority to think less and less of thier cultural beliefs everyday. They have 100's if not 1000's of "laws" to force you to accept thier ruin of any and all white/caucasian pride. Your "holidays and religious beliefs" have been shattered into corporate slogans and shopping events. I could go on forever.
look in the mirror if you can face what you the "white man" has become. If you have no racial pride no love of family of it's values and that of your sons and daughters future then you know that you are the enemy and thus you should take responsibility as a traitor to your grave. You not only sell out yourself but your family and your loved ones, all for a false sense of security and time proven un-attainable utopic bullshit. Unity of races is a not even a "dream" it's a mental illness a cancer the sooner you stand against it the sooner this ends for the good of all involved.
The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy
Dude, I up-voted you and wish I could give you more green arrows, because you speak the truth.
I know you're a smart dude, but really, it's DIVIDE, not DEvide. Use the spell-checker and people will take you more seriously. Honestly, not trying to be a dick, but I learned from years as a newspaperman, correct spelling and proper grammar goes a long way (well, at least it used to).
Over all, though, thumbs up. Fight harder. Stick to your principles. We'd all be better off if people actually had principles.
U r Million dollar bonus now waving a KKK flag for fun?
The KKK is and has been nothing but a tool for the democratic liberal filth party .... you have been played LMFAO more .gov boogeymen for ya to follow around while they bend you over the multicultural rail and drive it home
I respect your input and typing is not a virtue of mine especially when I'm pissed off LOL I preffer speaches ...no spell check needed ! oh and I fixed it thanks again
please correct two grammatical errors
correct spelling and proper grammar goes a long way (well, at least it used to).
Animals are classified by kingdom, phylum, class, order, family, genus, and species.
Only "humans" further divide themselves into racial sub-categories.
I've seen white rabbits and brown rabbits, black rabbits, metallic blue rabbits, and any and all combinations.
They are all rabbits, and they don't break up into teams to chant bullshit and promote gang warfare.
So rabbits are the best you have ... thats funny you need to get your ass out and observe real nature and real animals then get back to me start with oh maybe the canine family...not all dogs are created equal either ...putz
I've seen white pit bulls, black pit bulls, brown pit bulls, and any and all combinations thereof.
Color is not a determining factor in which will win the dog fight.
If it's a good fight, they are both red by the time it is over.
Puss-ass.
Keep trying to make an obvious point that you're ignorant it's going well and I am much amused
Irregardless, you're still a puss-ass.
Divide and conquer
lets look at this "folks" since time began "races" have been divided that being said it's a given part to the natural law of all things living. get with the fact that we are all animals stop thinking your special ..You're NOT!
Once again since time began there have always and I stress ALWAYS been strife and wars between races each trying to conquer the other.
If you think you are somehow going to create this absurd fucking unity of multicultural multiracism "can't we all just get along " utopic bullshit well sorry to ruin your fuckin day. Divide and conquer and multiculture are 2 sides of the same destructive force.
now heres where the key to turning this shit on them lays.... Divide and divide even more it's simple logic ... by dividing and abiding by natural law you strengthen your race and it's values. You also have a very clear picture of your enemy no matter what race they are. The more you cry of the divide and conquer game the more white faces show up in the crowd of the FSA and un-educated vermin ....and thats just where they want you...fighting against your own race....what you will witness is the 2nd civil war not a revolutionary one. We will fight brother against brother once again so pick your side carefully.
In the reallity of all this you will see that the gov will take the side of the lesser race therefore exposing the true nature of the enemy. They do not want to have to try to rule a strong freethinking educated populace it will crush them and they know it.
The winner of this whole thing boils down to whom fights hardest.. nothing more and nothing less. So far they are winning they have convinced the white majority to think less and less of thier cultural beliefs everyday. They have 100's if not 1000's of "laws" to force you to accept their ruin of any and all white/caucassian pride. Your "holidays and religious beliefs" have been shattered into corporate slogans and shopping events. I could go on forever.
look in the mirror if you can face what you the "white man" has become. If you have no racial pride no love of family of it's values and that of your sons and daughters future then you know that you are the enemy and thus you should take responsibility as a traitor to your grave. You not only sell out yourself but your family and your loved ones, all for a false sense of security and time proven un-attainable utopic bullshit. Unity of races is a not even a "dream" it's a mental illness a cancer the sooner you stand against it the sooner this ends for the good of all involved.
The enemy of my enemy is still my enemy
The Tower of Babel
Genesis 9:7 reads "And you, be ye fruitful, and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth, and multiply therein." Compare that to what you wrote, "by dividing and abiding by natural law you strengthen your race and it's values." Math, Biology, Theology- it's just wrong on so many fronts.
And then there's this bit of brilliant strategery "The winner of this whole thing boils down to whom fights hardest.. nothing more and nothing less." The Spartans lost at Thermopylae you know, and the relativist niggers in Athens profited by their loss. If you don't understand and haven't experienced war, don't pontificate on strategy. War makes stranger bedfellows than politics.
You need to work on your logic, or hang out some place where the deficiencies in that logic will remain unnoticed by lower functioning untermenschen. Perhaps... Stormfront.
There is a way to make the point you are trying to make, but you are not making it.
Double Bullocks. What is this? Pre-Thanksgiving tryptophan induced cliche abuse?
divide and conquer is a military term, using it in the context of race is inappropriate.
the enemy of your enemy is not your enemy. (they very likely are not your friend, but that is a different argument)
THE enemy is the State.
They (the State) have a lot of enemies themselves (both foreign and domestic). They are trying to not only divide and conquer their enemies, but to also manipulate their enemies into performing the heavy lifting of their own conquest for them. This ain't about sitting around and singing kumbayah, it's about defeating enemies, which requires resource allocation, target identification and prioritization, and selective engagement with sound strategy and tactics.
There may be more than one enemy and there may be more than one war (for some), but without victory in the first, subsequent victory is impossible.
UR, what when this "enemy" state is first a nation and then a state? can you get rid of a nation? how? the harder you hit on them, the more they unite
the state is just a human setup. the real enemy is who abuses the state. there is a difference between the body and it's parasites or illnesses
Being a radical confederationalist.. I've always got issues with the Federal and/or Unitary State that sometimes color my word choice and expose my biases. But I would distinguish between the Nation as necessarily including the People, whereas the State may or may not include the People. Critical to destroying one's enemy in war (absent WMD), regardless of whether the war is open, low intensity, or by proxy -- is creating separation and divisions between between your adversary and its bases of support (supply lines, trade and military partners, and civilian populations). This is one of the things that the US perpetually fucks up (the current example being a failure to discriminate between those Muslim groups which have philosophical and ideological difference of opinion with US imperialism, and those actively engaged direct covert support of US adversaries - dumbing down the populace doesn't help, but they reap what they sow).
But it isn't only the US - Russia, China, France, the UK.. all States seem to perpetually get tripped up by this. A decade ago, when I was finding my way after leaving banking (and after an Act of God no less), I found myself "advising" a government at war that was having a terrible time actually identifying their enemy so that could drive wedge between the enemy and the citizenry in order to put down the insurrection. Unlike most governments, this one actually was making a conscious effort to do things correctly at a strategic level, even if the usual tactical level fuck ups were enraging the serfs. It was a rather surreal experience, but it was critical to influencing my understanding and perceptions of the interactions between big business, big finance, the military and the government in pursuit of State ambitions, even moreso than partaking in the infighting over oil/gold/money spoils in the run-up to Iraq 2.0.
fuckit. The world is full of crap, mostly inspired by the government, banks and the media whores.
Move to the country, plant some seeds, establish a workable homestead with as much free energy as possible (wood stoves, solar, water, wind) and just veg out.
Ungovernable? U Betcha! My land, water, wood, solar panels, dogs, guns and silver say I am my own sovereign.
Fuk the worthless government goons, and that not only includes politicians of all stripes, but cops, teachers, pencil-pushers, anyone who every worked or works for any level of government, fed, state, local, fuck the fuck off. Parasites, every one of them. And greedy bitches, too. I should know. My older brother and younger sister are both teachers. Now that my free enterprising lawyer father and housewife mother have passed on, they want everything and to leave me with nothing, which is why I made sure I was executor of the estate.
Did I mention that most of the government employee sheeple are dumb as shit? Yeah, they are, college degrees and all. Even worse, they fell "entitled."
Assholes.
Thanks for letting me vent, ZH and all commentators. Happy Thanksgiving. I'll be spending it packing up my belongings so I'm gone in a month.
Hands off!
Don't loot!
Why pay taxes when the law enforcement you paid for is MIA? Just cut the entire law enforcement line from the budget. Instead, offer firearm coupons to law abiding citizens.
I agree with the premise of this article, which is that .gov is working hard against Americans, once again.
The American government is illegitimate.
Here's a clue
" stay the course "
Staged Event
The card was played
Who ever said this was a white versus black thing. You've have just been probed little brains.
Television said so.
At this point, what difference does it make?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka0_nz53CcM
Build a fence around Ferguson and lock it up. Put a sign outside: "America's Niggertown"
These people never have and never will produce cultural attributes that add value to or enhance the American Way.
playing basketball and music aren't cultural attributes?
Music?? Did you say music? Inchoherently grunted obscene "lyrics" superimposed on a primitive beat. It's such a low form of "music" that it literally could not be notated in the conventional music notation sense.
Two item(s) that only came into existence following 9/11, The Patriot Act(s) and NDAA
MIAC coincidentally the working document in the same State where the incident which led to the rioting "started" which just happens to be located less than 10 miles across from the Illinois border with Scott AFB home of DISA! AND Fusion Center which the mission statement from the DHS which didn't exist before 2001 was designed to coordiante Federal local and state law enforcement together "FOR".... You would have to from another galaxy or received a frontal lobotomy not to know that this was coming just by virtue of running a search on youtube or google with the words "cops" and "excessive force" within the past 6 years alone in this Country! Michael Brown "stand in line"!... No wonder Manahttan is going ape shit with the number of homicides by one of the most corrupt police forces in existence? It was simply the straw that broke the camels rear end!
Either way the American people are going to get their asses handed to them. Whether they protest in Ferguson, Detroit, Philadelphia Manhattan or the "sweat shop" that makes it all happen in the Nation's Capitol! At this point like the Nike commercial says "Just Do it"!... because how much longer can you not take responsibility for what you are paying for and not receiving anyway???... It's not like you gave a shit by "proxy" about all those people your government and ithe military you pay for that are destroying and pillaging every place else on the map because their money and reputation are no longer worth shit?... Might as well stick your neck out now to change the "status quo" that desperately is seeking a war with a rival that will stop us for sure in a very unpleasant way I might add for all of us- if you don't! You think dumb as pig shit guys like this are going to stop following their orders and receiving scraps from the table and give a shit that what they are doing willl potentially lead us to World War?!! It's Darren Wilson in a camo fucking with someone who will kick his ass up to his nose hairs!!!
Whether we wish to acknowledge this as singular event that will be the catalyst for a new way forward like the "Boston Massacre" was that launched American independence or the shit will simply continue and only get much worse!
Better pray we collectively take the initiative now which means spilling some blood or let the Russians and Chinese do it on our behalf!
No caveat emptor is required. GFC this isn't about racism! It's about inequality.
It's about weath being stolen from savers. (little old ladies)
Since the Law does not recognize people as human, with rights, Enforcement of Law shall not either.
its that simple, and yes: a conspiracy
Longevity. Morphology. Incept dates.
I am most amazed by so many observers....posters that it's great popcorn theater. Well, it won't be and you and yours will be skinned alive by such dope and hope belief that events will pass over your life because of whatever rationale you've concocted such as I'm not a part of this, etc. No historical precedent supports your observer status long term.
Its happening because of communications becoming ubiquitous.
TV is the major engine behind "Observer Syndrome".
TV has allowed people's Neurological Systems to get the experience without being physically present.
Its fact that your brain's neural activity is identical when watching and event live or on TV.
Your brain is training your body to hold itself in suspended observer states for hours at a time...
Hours while you witness countless depraved acts performed against numerous helpless sheep.
And finally Viola... You get "people" who will just fucking watch in horror as the shark chews their legs off.
Or in this case, they get boot stomped by a crowd of out of control animals.
Ferguson is an obama-progressives voter registration drive in the final analysis. Poor folk and disenfranchised black folk are the backbone of the progressive's organization of the Proletariat. It's a pretty easy analysis (the bottom line this is) if you look through the eyes of your enemy rather than the fatal all too common tendency of viewing your enemy through one's own set of assumptions.