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Thought Crime? Navy Vet Fired For Posting Images Of DHS Vehicles On Facebook
Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
You probably haven’t heard of Mark Paffrath, the 28-year-old Navy veteran, and former employee of the Drury hotel chain, who was fired from his job and called a “terrorist” for taking pictures of Department of Homeland Security (DHS) vehicles and posting them to his personal Facebook page.
The story of his recent job termination is further proof of fascism’s relentless bull market within these United States. What happened to Mr. Paffrath could easily happen to any of us, and it’s imperative that we support him and reject the type of backwards fear-mongering being perpetrated by his control-freak employer.
Just two weeks ago, we saw a 90-year-old vet threatened with jail for feeding homeless people in Florida. Now this.
TechDirt reports that:
Mark says that on Thursday after work he snapped 2 photographs and a short video of several dozen Homeland Security vehicles in the parking garage. He then uploaded them to his Facebook page. In his post he writes “why are all the cop cars here…I wonder if it has anything to do with Ferguson”, he also included the hashtags #Ferguson #NoJusticeNoPeace.
On Friday, shortly after arriving to work at the Drury Plaza Hotel, Mark stated that he was called to the office of Jeff Baker, the General Manager. Upon arriving Mr. Baker advised Mark that he needed to remove the photos and video from Facebook. Mark immediately complied and removed the post. Mark then continued and finished his shift.
That should be the end of it, but of course it’s not…
Saturday, Mark stated after being at work no more than 30 minutes, he was again called to the General Manager’s office. Waiting for him was Jim Bohnert, Director of Security for Drury Hotels Company, LLC. Mark told ASN that Mr. Bohnert advised him that his Facebook posts almost cost the company a $150,000 contract with the Department of Homeland Security and because of this he was being terminated.
Jim Bohnert — formerly of the Secret Service and the St. Louis Police Department — had more to say on the matter. He called the former military member a “terrorist” and told him he had “dishonorably served his country” by posting pictures of vehicles parked in a garage where any guest or employee of the hotel could have seen them. In fact, any member of the public could have seen them simply by entering the garage, which is not secured. Argus Streaming News writers were able to see “over 100″ DHS vehicles in the garage while driving through it on their way to speak to the hotel’s manager.
Bohnert also threatened Paffrath with arrest if the photos were reposted (presumably by someone with more power than Director of Security for Drury Hotels, Bohnert’s current position).
Specifically, this is what Bohnert supposedly said:
Mark stated that Mr. Bohnert ended the conversation with “if you repost the photos and video you will have the federal government knocking on your door and you will be incarcerated”.
We must all support Mr. Paffrath, and let Drury Hotels know that it is their behavior that is unacceptable, not Mark Paffrath’s. It’s perfectly representative of the addled, insane society we live in that the hotel’s security director had the nerve to call a U.S. veteran a “terrorist” for posting pictures to Facebook. I think we all know who’s actually behaving like a terrorist in this case. The time for getting outraged has long since passed.
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Well, the employee learned his "lesson". Your boss reads your facebook more than the State does. It's your employer that has more control over you than the State could ever dream of.
The boss didn't like your facebook posts, you are out of a job.
The corporate compliance machine in full gear.
they will rue the day....
LOL, let's go to press with a one-sided story from a low-level service industry worker. One who just lost his job and has an axe to grind, no less. What could go wrong?
It's a cautionary tale any way you look at it. Try to learn what you can from it.
Ewww, one of those low level service workers!!! They should be shot on sight. If he had a more respectable job, like a TSA or IRS employee, then you would bow down to him.
Maybe it's one sided because Durry and the SS refuse to comment. Did you think of that?
No, if he had a more respectable "career" like being a banker or a real estate mogul, then I know you would bow to him sun tzu.
News of four or five days ago!
Tyler is getting senile!
hehe.
you want up to the minute breaking news?
try this:
www.cnn.com
Of course I would have simply told the manager I would be re-posting the photos everywhere with the story, just to ensure they lost the 150K contract. I mean it is not like I would be burning any bridges. As far as incarceration, I'm sure they could trump up a few charges, but considering the sensitivity of Ferguson I would consider it a calculated risk, and call the manager's bluff.
I can't resist.
"burning any bridges"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqSiLL8U3vo
huh.
I thought 'thought crime' was limited to true, but unflattering statements about Israel and/or Jewish power and privilege.
animi scrinium servitu
The US government is an extension
Govt/The Mafia are always watching.
So the moral of the story is when you're dealing with criminals, traitors and terrorists and you submit to even their slightest wishes in order to appease them you will be screwed twice as hard
So Mr Paffrath, according to the post, was defamed, wrongful terminated, and had his 1rst Amendment rights violated. Should be worth a few million
I hope he sues the company, the management jerkoffs and the agents that coerced the company. That is unless the agents directed management to fire him. And then its a whole new ballgame
So what action should be taken against any guest that posted those pictures?
He was an employee, not a guest. Big difference.
Those DHS cops could be there for Hookers and Blow - just like the Secret Service in Columbia. The little contract could be there just to park their vehicles. You can understand why the Obama Admin is touchy.
yah, the "obama admin" is totally aware of this incident and acting accordingly.
only 2 more years until you can vote 'em out and get back the other side, y'know, the ones who came up with all the HomeLandSec acts and laws and stuff, that started the latest fascist craze.
I've yet to take some enjoyment in reading the comment section. But, I first found the Drury website and found their page for locations. https://wwws.druryhotels.com/PropertyList.aspx
Make sure, if your in their neighborhood, you don't stay with these scumbags.
Im with you... I will never stay in a Drury.
I sure as hell dont want to share a hotel with a bunch of DHS sh!theads anyway.
James Drury.....THE VIRGINIAN...MOTHERFUCKERS!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib27EiP7By4
gee, this guy must have mistakenly hit on the drury, dhs, fema st. louis hub.
the $150 grand must have been for parking fees, seeing all those govt. cars.
you'd of thought their was a federal reserve branch in st. louis.
Give them a call and complain http://druryplazasantafe.com/about.html
Or sit on your fat asses and moan and wail? And do nothing
here you go http://druryplazasantafe.com/contact.html
For groups, meetings, and special events, contact Jenny Cintron, Sales Manager.jenny.cintron@druryhotels.com
For general information, media inquiries and press information contact Tauseen Malik, General Manager.dph.sfe.162.gm@druryhotels.com
If you cancel a reservation with them over this do you get thrown into the dungeon?
1. Is the parking structure private property?
2. Is the parking structure a public or private space?
3. Do those parking there have an objective expectation of privacy?
For those who hold that owners of private property have rights regarding that property, it should be an easy thing to accept that property owners have the right to limit access to their private property. The right to limit access to would include the right to determine who can take pictures, and of what, on that privately owned property.
The gentleman who took the pictures seems to have not known this. Some of the commenters here seem to not know this.
Private property but a public place.
No reasonable expectation of privacy because all guests have access to the garage.
Too bad the guy was an employee. He that pays the piper calls the tune.
A wrongful termination case would run head on into a bullshit claim of 'National Security' issues because 'right-wing terrorists' might blow up a conference room full of DHS agents plotting new ways to strip Americans of their rights.
Does that mean if I stay at a hotel or eat at a restaurant, I can't take a photo there? They better have signs posted
No. If you are in a hotel lobby and tell someone to fuck off, you might get punched in the face. If you work at the hotel, you might get fired as well. Employees have certain duties and obligations.
Exactly! Fred you get it. I just can't comprehend why everyone doesn't see the obvious here.
To everyone else:
Yes, if you don't see the violation of liberty and freedom here, then you're fucking retarded. If the story was about a group of shitheads from Apple that had their photos of company cars posted on FB, it would be the same result. The fucking photo happy clerk, who happened to be the Navy, deserves to lose his job.
That's your private business in action. Good luck with your boycott on Drury everyone out there in cyber land. Wish you all the best.
I'm not talking about employees.
dumbass thats why fake accts were inventedddd
I'm surrounded by fucking idiots! Are you fuckers Autistic, or what? Smoking dope in mom's basement? What the fuck? I'm seriously amazed at the fucking level of retardness. Are you young or just fucking stupid? Do you understand liberty and freedom?
Think of it this way....God forbid YOU get a job with DHS or any government agency (I realize from the posts that's highly unlikely with most of you being fucking retarded or just ignorant). Now, let's understand that the government tells you where you are permitted to stay when traveling on government business. That's why hotels have a government rate, btw. For example, DOE has their nuclear transporter crews stay at designated places daily, it's not a choice for many government employees.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Secure_Transportation
https://www.flickr.com/photos/policecararchives/4097948015/
http://www.armoredcars.com/inventory/upload/tn_photo_173.jpg
Remember, you're the government employee on official business, driving government tactical vehicles and forced to stay at this shitty Drury hotel. The hotel is chosen because it has a parking garage that you can hide from plain sight your vehicles so that you're not robbed.
All for not, because some numbnuts front desk employee thinks it's cool that you camped out for the night and took pictures and posted to his loser FB account. I agree with firing his dumb ass. I'm certain it was in his employment contract not to film guests.
Hope that clears it up for you fucking morons. Reasonable freedom and privacy are afforded to government employees. The government itself has no right to privacy, but the employees do.
Disclaimer: I'm not a government employee.
This idiot thinks you see only one part of this and not the whole.
Why should the DHS care? Except it knows it does the same thing to people like you. After all, none of us have nothing to hide, do we? Except politicians, DHS, NSA and corporate felons hiding behind the redacted rule of National Security. The rest of us are terorists.
Maybe DHS employees will think twice about breaking laws the founders created and which most of America was led to believe was the foundation for the USA. But no, like the Nazi SS and Gestapo, they were just following orders.
If they don't like the tables being turned, they can get another job.
Really, you even admit your an idiot. You people don't even understand what you're arguing about. You don't truly understand freedom and liberty.
The privacy context is not about DHS, they should have none. It's about the individuals that work there and are now off the clock staying at a government provided/approved hotel. The fuckstick employee, that happened to be a Navy vet, had priveledged information on who,what, when stayed at the hotel.
The premise of the article is misguided by stating that a Navy vet was fired. What the fuck does being a Navy vet have to do with the price of tea in China? The fucktard works at a shitbag hotel now. He was probably a fucking cook.
It is nice to communicate with a genius like you. You think you are so smart, yet you have no respect for others do you?
The bottom line is the guy made an innocent gesture and corrected it whan asked to do so.
He gets fired.
I checked out that stupid hotel's web site. Facebook is predominately displayed. DHS isn't so smart is it?
How do you know they were on off time? Why aren't they driving their personal vehicles then instead of gov issued stuff.
What do the DHS employees got to worry about, unless they are screwing around on their wives? Like the secret service in Columbia and putting hookers on expense accounts.
They got the guns don't they?
The irony of this story is that almost no one would have seen the images if such a big deal hadn't been made over it. Just a few 'friends' on Farcebook, not the general public. This story was carried widely.
So was this another Psy-Ops?
Jesus,
What an ignoramus.
The guy took pictures of vehicles with big DHS markings on them, not the people in them.
A Drury hotel parking garage is not Area 51.
The amout of stupid you managed to cram in one post was staggering.
Go take a nap, you must be worn out.
A Drury hotel parking garage is not Area 51.
No it is not. But it IS private property. And the owners of that private property have a defined right to tell those it allows on that property how to behave. Plus, the municipal, state, and Federal code states whether those parking on that private property can have an objective expectation of privacy (the stricter interpretation rules). That ruling goes beyond what the owner of that private property might decide is allowable behavior.
When they became DHS employees, as far as I'm concerned they became the enemy and should be treated as such.
They have the right to be part of the enemy, and the rest of us have the right to fuck with the enemy. Period.
"The privacy context is not about DHS, they should have none."
HA HA HA, then why the hell are you sticking up for them?
Someone has a connection to DHS they are trying to hide, that's why.
The disclaimer is that the shitface isn't a government employee. Probably a contractor or former employee. The people are the enemy and there's a terrorist behind every tree and under every rock. That's the mindset of the government security apparatus these days.
You, your attitude, and your language well reflect your alleged military history.
"You're" so smart you can't spell the word.
Please share your obvious and infinite wisdom and charity Re. the man who fired Mark, who described Mark's actions as those of a "terrorist" and deserving of imprisonment. Why stop there? What about good ole water boarding and the death penalty?
We'll make sure to call you when it's time to incinerate suckling babies and their moms. Have a nice day.
You can take your argument to a bank and shove it.
Poor DHS employees private time being invaded in a public hotel.
What about my private fucking time that NSA, Google, AT&T, Microsoft, Verizon, Apple, DHS and everyone else is competing with each other to dig deep into my crevices to see if I have terrorist tendencies or worse, maybe cash they can't figure out how I got or who my friends are or who I am sleeping with.
Fire them first, then make your stupid comments. Unlike you, I do not need any of the aforementioned to live without fear and to be free.
By the way, I don't own a gun and don't need one, I can look after myself, and when the day comes I can't. well it is meant to be.
Hey...EASY with the swearing....you fucking douchebag.
I love his swearing. A new fav of mine.
That statement about being too retarded to work for the government had me laughing. If you ever worked for the government you would know it's full of fucking idiots, morons, and retards.
Your disclaimer should also note that you're a stupid shithead whose mother forgot to flush when she had the runs.
Yep, served in the military. Combat tour with spec opns, they even made me an officer. The only thing I learned with a peak behind the curtain was that there will never be a conspiracy in the military. Too many saw what happened and at least one will talk. Proof is in the pudding. Look at Osama Obama Bin Laden's killer. Someone will always tell the story.
There are far, far more retards in this thread than I ever served with in the military. I'm blown away by the pussification of you fuckers. Hating government is one thing, hating the people that work for the government is totally off base.
Again, I don't work for government. I did, but that was many years ago.
People in SpecOps don't talk about it - they don't need to. You're an obvious attention seeker.
Making reference to "UBL's killer" reveals a low level thought process and the absence of critical thinking skills. Your gratuitous use of F-bombs does the same.
But be of good cheer, you will feel much better once you leave ZH and return to Faux News for more programming.
Care to explain the Manhattan project then.
Or how about the Gulf of Tonkin being staged, and not admitted to until 2005.
Your little platoon wouldn't get in a conspiracy but there are folks far above you in the ranks.
Silly comment.
sheikyurbootie was in special ops, Re. the video game version.
Germany sunk the British Lusitania during WW1. At the time the Allies loudly screamed the sinking was a war crime because the Lusitania was a medical non-military ship carrying only wounded to safety. This inflamed many including the US to joint the fight against Germany.
They finally proved only a few years ago the Lusitania was indeed an armed military vessel.
Earth to lying sacks of fecal matter: it's not like Machiavelli's The Prince wasn't written five C ago, and isn't available for anyone to read for how to program and propagandize people to desire to kill their fellow earthlings to benefit bankers.
I love the quote credited to Orwell IIRC: "There's always an easy way to end war: surrender!"
You missed my point altogether.
No conspiracies in the military? You're even more stupid than I thought. I suppose you think the Spanish really blew up the USS Maine and the Vietnamese attacked US warships in the Gulf of Tonkin.
The people who work for the government ARE the government. That's like hating the Nazi Party but not hating the individual Nazis.
Do government cars have a right to privacy? -- OOh I'm much too modest, I'm off duty, don't take my picture, I don't have any makeup, I'm dirty, I need to be washed and waxed -- Ha ha ha.
EW, you don't fucking read too well. You're too fucking retarded to explain the problem, so fuck the fuck off. :)
-- DHS, protector of "liberty and freedom". Good one, shreik!
Bitch, please.
Some people are incapable of expressing themselves without insults and profanity.
Some commenter on ZH turned me onto informationLiberation,com where i saw this story a few days ago. It looks like he runs it out of his basement, but it's a very good compendium of news about the police state in which we live.
always woundered where Department of Whoreland Security actually Whored
Rule #1: Never post shit online with your real name.
(they might still come knocking but don't make it easy for them)
That there needs to be a rule#1 is scary, but then again, that's the whole point of this post. If you see something, say something. Unless it involves the overreaching state, if so sit down and shut the hell up. Or else...
posting stupid stuff online with their own name has cost many people job opportunities and they don't even realize it. if you need a paycheck from the fascist machine don't be stupid.
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agreed. if you are working within the machine, learn the rules of engagement.
otherwise, expect the obvious consequences of perceived missteps.
Or from the Marxist machine
When "they" come knocking, they won't bother to knock.
I never stay at Dreary Inns anyway
This is an example of what I was describing.
Police officer identity should be concealed and secret. The alternative is what we see in Ferguson, the protectors getting death threats.
How effective can a LEO be with death hanging over their heads??
Protect the police. Weave them into the fabric.
Good idea.
Let's make them wear hoods and eliminate badge numbers.
I'd feel safer not knowing who was going to shoot me for a jaywalking ticket.
Protect the Gestapo and KGB? Those cars had DHS markings on them you idiot. How were they woven into the fabric?
First, everyone reading this can call Jeff at 636-532-3300 to inform him they will never stay at his hotel chain. Then maybe clueless Jeff can figure out that mafia security is bad for business.
Second, Jim Bohnert - playing with fire.
Pee Wee ain't afraid of your flapping vagina of ex-cop fear mongering bullshit. Intimidation like the good ol days will get you killed. Be thankful you're alive Jim. You simply haven't confronted someone smarter than you.
Since this story is all over the Internet, Bohnert may have provided just the cause "protestors" are looking for to destroy something else. So much so that both Jim and Jeff could be terminated for making something out of nothing in the name of nothing. Meanwhile terrorism has won yet again. Rinse, repeat.
Hillary getting motor boated by Lagarde while shoving SDR's up the crest of her ass.
Is that an acceptable thought crime?
Big Butch's program of "if you see something, say something" only goes one way I guess. What a shame and a disgrace for Amerika.
are the cars for the protestors?
It may be just me, but my guess is that it was the #NoJusticeNoPeace comment about Ferguson that actually got people mad him in trouble. THe DHS vehicels thing is just an excuse to get rid of him.
The email address for the DHS "see something say something" program is: seesay@hq.dhs.gov
You could send them an email suggesting they use their mighty powers to get Mark Paffrath rehired.
Just a thought....
DRAGNET.
just a thought. . .
Ok, so if it's a crime to take a picture of DHS vehicles, does that mean it's a crime to look at them?
What if I looked at them, should I promise to forget right away?
By the way, I keep reading the constitution, it doesn't say anything about DHS in there. Does that mean DHS is..."extra constitutional," sometimes known as "unconstitutional?"
Whether you're a photographer, an insurgent, or a patriot aka terrorist, das Homeland is what you call a 'target rich environment'.
why is the DHS paying a private company to store/park vehicles in the first place..??? smells like a crony kickback deal they are trying to cover up... write and ask for the contrat id# for this sweetheart deal... Then see if it was a NO BID award... ex secret service.... big fucking deal... lame ass crew if there ever was one.. the guy ought to sue the scumbag and the htoel for being fired without cause.. be threatened with govenment retaliation and thuggery..
Changing a few words…
The Home Land Security (Gestapo), or secret state police played a key role in the terror and control of American (German) citizens. With the ability to rely on a network of Liberals (informers) and enjoying the power to arrest and imprison without trial, the Home Land Security (Gestapo) had a significant influence on the Obama (Nazi) state.
Drury Hotels operates under the names Drury Inn, Drury Inn and Suites, Drury Suites, and Pear Tree Inn.
I'll keep that in mind on my next road trip. Not that I take a lot of road trips.
Any time there is a federal vehicle parked, take a picture of it and put it online. Everyone dance like you're a terist!
The only Crime is the People letting their Gov't get away with shit like this !
how much more ?
Thought Crime, signature of the Inquisition.
Despotic states are inquisitorial, Arbitrary and repressive.
If you believe in a God who justifies evil in his name, you make Man evil (Thomas Paine).
Demonising the enemy is the beginning of the Inquisition as you dehumanise him.
Look around you, now the West is lurching back to its Inquisitorial, neo-feudalist past trying to match the East which is stuck in that rut.
Clash of Civilization has made ethnic/ideological cleansers of us again, in neo-colonial predatory Nation-State mayhem--(that we bequeathed to them when Enlightenment occurred and spread)-- and rogue state building (to ensure Oligarchy rape of RM).
When you have an Oligarchy that makes clash of civilization its foreign policy, by taking OVER the REPUBLIC, and enacting Patriot's Acts to reinstate Inquisition at home, you know that in such mindset, anything becomes possible as we've already been there. This is a REPEAT of Middle Ages and obscurantist mindset.
Hubris and Obscurantist fed greed... as corrupted empires fall time and again.
May I suggest that here at ZH we stop dignifying the use of the word "Homeland" as in "Department of Homeland Security".
I'm sure that plenty of people have noticed how clearly reminiscent the word "Homeland" is of Nazi propaganda - that is precisely why it was invented by the Nazis in Cheney's administration. It is pathetic how easily and completely it has been adopted by the lapdog media, who have been virtually 100% turned by their masters into cheerleaders for the leaders of the tyranny.
Please don't support this creeping menace by casual, thoughtless use of the language of the tyranny.
"Department of Hopeless Sociopaths" might work. Any other suggestions?
Is it ok if I use Fatherland? I've always felt that most appropriate.
Lin S - you KNOW that in their evil hearts they wanted to use Fatherland but figured even though they control the media with an iron fist, and that Americans are stupid, that they couldn't get away with that one - yet.
Let's make a list:
- Fatherland Security is what DHS is
- Department of War is DOD
- Ministry of Propaganda might be Depart of Education
- MSM might be Depart of Information, Ministry of Information
- Federal Disease Monitoring Agency is CDC
- Depart of Twisted Law is DOJ
- Depart of Protection of the Banks is the FBI
How about "Homeboy Security" ?
a gallon of gasoline and a match for the revolution. burn, baby, burn! that is the only way to a secure homeland.
"Thought Crime? Navy Vet Fired For Posting Images Of DHS Vehicles On Facebook"
"... Mr. Bohnert advised him that his Facebook posts almost cost the company a $150,000 contract with the Department of Homeland Security and because of this he was being terminated."
If what is in bold is accurate, he nearly cost the business a large sum of money. If accurate, that would seem to be the real issue to the business, not that he took the photos. If he was just a guest at the hotel and posted the photos, he would not have lost his job at Kmart, if that was where he worked.
Substitute Homeland Security with Gestapo then read your comment again.
No, replace with KGB, Fascist nations are nations run by the best the Folk have to offer. Marxist nations are run by, well, we know who, with Negro leadership and the worst the body politic has to offer.
yawn, obvious psy-ops is to distract from gov civilian armour, and to hot it up for whistleblowers...whilst seeming to inform the public that everything is under control [sic].... yet more media orchestration to serve gov purpose... dont lose sight of why this story is getting daylight.
yep
and compulsive, social posters who want their friends to see everything cute and funny that they saw today.
DHS got millions of dollars of free ACHTUNG out of "Die Nacht Der Langen Parkplatz." It warned millions of Americans not to do what Mark Paffrath did at the Drury Plaza Hotel.
That's all the DHS wants -- a little secrecy in a society which prides itself on its freedom of speech.
Is that too much to ask?
The hotel fired Mark for his own welfare because HS told hotel management the alternative was for Mark's name to be placed atop Obombya's Secret (Amerikan citizen) Kill List ala Anwar Al Awlaki and his 16 year old son by the same name (both droned within two weeks of each other).
So management did Mark a righteous, after all. Congratulaitons!
I just looked at Drury Hotels' FB page. From the looks of the comments section, they are going to lose MUCH more than $150k. LMAO! Fuck em.
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No. Psyop test
No government meeting is confidential if held in public. He should get a lawyer and sue everyone involved in his termination.
Soldier, put up a tip jar.
Just another day in Marxist USSA.
tripadvisor.com is what I use when I'm looking for a reservation for a hotel because by reading the reviews I can make a wise choice. It's used by my friends also and I think affects a fair amount of bookings.
If only 1% of us "review" a drury hotel/inn, if only saying that by booking there is a slap in the face of the Constitution I'll bet that it'll cost Drury more than the $150,000. No need to be dishonest.