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The National Conversation About Race (Summarized In 1 Cartoon)

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Fri, 12/05/2014 - 15:55 | 5521486 LawsofPhysics
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Scenes from "the life of brian"...

 

truth is always stranger than fiction...

same as it ever was.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:00 | 5521509 Buckaroo Banzai
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The artist forgot to include the outside agitators, race-baiters, and "community organizers" that ought to be pictured on the left side of that cartoon.

Not to mention the ghost of Lyndon Baines "I'll have those niggers voting Democrat for the next 100 years!" Johnson

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:03 | 5521527 0b1knob
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Choomboy has been playing this divide and conquer game since the beginning.    We reap what Choomboy has sown.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:08 | 5521543 kaiserhoff
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We need a "National Conversation" about lifetime welfare.

   That is the real, underlying problem.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:12 | 5521559 Bay of Pigs
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Third and fourth generations of inner city blacks that have never had anyone in their family that has ever had a job.

That is the truth, no matter what people want to bullshit about.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:14 | 5521578 trulz4lulz
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The vast majority of black people I know are hard workers. Also, most of thier parents had great jobs until GE, International Harvester, Essex Wire, Slater Steel, and Dana started to close shop or move over seas thanks in part to Republican and Democratic "Leadership". Those companies I listed employed nearly 70,000 people where I live at one point. And those jobs paid very good money and employed a lot of black folks and white folks.

Idle hands are a Devils Playground or so they say. But what do I know.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:20 | 5521596 Bay of Pigs
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Understood. I'm referring to places like South Central LA, Detroit, Chicago, Baltimore, Philly, New Orleans, Oakland, etc....

I know cops and paramedics who worked in those cities and their stories are hard for me to even comprehend. The MSM avoids it like the plague. Most Americans have no understanding on this issue at all.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:29 | 5521637 tarsubil
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As divorce rates among whites and in the suburbs catch up, the abyss of the inner city is just a preview of the future for the entire country.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:06 | 5521793 0b1knob
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< The problem with white people is that they only care about other white people.

< The problem with black people is that they only care about other black people.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:47 | 5521953 Parrotile
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Because of innate (i.e. DNA hard-wired) tribalism (survival of the clan - dates back to the very dawn of civilisaton), both statements are factually correct.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 19:15 | 5522241 12ToothAssassin
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When the housing authority originally built the St Louis projects they MADE the father leave the state before the family could move into their apartment. https://www.noagendaplayer.com/listen/675/22-28 (Let the entire MP3 load and then refresh page to start at 22:28)

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 21:42 | 5522675 nmewn
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Don't confuse the prog-statists!...they start foaming at the mouth while speaking in tongues before finally screaming razzzist when you do that! The truth scorches them to their very soul.

And somewhere in a dark corner of hell, Margaret Sanger cackles softly.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:21 | 5521602 kaiserhoff
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 I grew up in Illinois.  I know exactly what you are talking about, and how hard it has been on the former working class. 

So where are the white ghettos?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:27 | 5521635 trulz4lulz
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There are white ghettos here too. There are several bad hoods where I am at white, black, mexican and laoation(?). Detroit was amazing befopre the jobs left. Chicago, Philly, you name it, when those places went over seas it started going downhill badly. Hell just down the road from me n the white ghetto trailer park, there was a guy arrested a couple years ago for raping, dismembering and eating a 7 or 8 year old girl. He was a white dude. Shits fucked up all over the place guys.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:53 | 5521739 gatorengineer
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Name one white (not hispanic area) in the US, that isnt safe to walk through after dark......  Cant? thought so.  There are poor low class whites, dont get me wrong, but they dont loot, and generally arent racist.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:05 | 5521787 trulz4lulz
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Well that depends. Are you black or white? Because I would take that bet. I will promise you there are places "white ghettos" where you dont want to be after dark if youre black! Same goes for white people.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 19:16 | 5522238 Pie rre
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Mark Wahlberg's troubled past is well known, but now it seems that he is looking to put it behind him once and for all. Wahlberg, who served 45 days in prison as a teenager for an attack that left a man blind in one eye outside a liquor store is seeking a pardon from the state of Massachusetts. In his petition, the actor, who is now a married father of four says he is a 'better person and citizen.' Documents show he called one of his victims a 'Vietnam f***ing s***' and that he later chased a group of black children, shouting: 'Kill the n*****!'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2861692/Mark-Wahlberg-seeking-pa...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:50 | 5522528 stocktivity
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OK Mark....you're an actor and better than the rest of us. After all, you only caused blindness in one eye. You are pardoned.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:22 | 5521849 Citxmech
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No white ghettos?  Have you been to WV?  That whole state is a friggen rural white ghetto.  As far as scary places populated by white folks, have you ever been to any areas known for meth?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:21 | 5522053 MachoMan
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This.  If the local source of sustenance is meth or moonshine, then you'd best be on your toes.  There are more than a few places in the ozarks that outsiders (regardless of skin color) dare not even drive through at night.  Hell, even for my in-laws, I'm just a "flat lander" (outsider)...  this issue goes back to the settlement of the area...

I'd say the bigger issue for most folks is one of practicality.  If you run into trouble in these areas, then it's because you've probably been lost for tens of miles and are actually looking to win a darwin award.  Whereas, in many cities (memphis comes to mind) the patchwork of "good" and "bad" neighborhoods is sometimes impossible for even the most steadfast to safely traverse.  One block away and you can be in another world...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:43 | 5522501 TheGreatRecovery
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As long as you stay out of the bars on Saturday night.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 23:08 | 5522864 Abbie Normal
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Wasn't Trayvon killed by Zimmerman in a white neighborhood?

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 12:54 | 5523788 TheReplacement
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Didn't Trayvon (black) attack Zimmerman (hispanic) in a mixed neighborhood?

FIFY

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:20 | 5521604 V in PA
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They employed some folks.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:24 | 5522058 mkkby
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The artist forgot to show the black people looting and shooting back and forth at each other.

Let's not forget that most blacks murders were by other blacks.  I don't see white or asian gangs running around looting and killing each other.  That is a black only problem.

One commenter said find me a poor white neighbohood that is unsafe to walk.  I will say, find me one black neighborhood that is civilized.  You can't, can you?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:53 | 5522147 SuperRay
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Where's that neanderthal DNA when you need it?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:31 | 5521643 Everybodys All ...
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I don't know why someone disagrees with this assesment. I have been saying for years that NAFTA and every other free trade agreement the US signed did nothing but send jobs out of this country and put people on unemployment. The case has been made, the evidence is in, the verdict should be loud and clear.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:28 | 5521876 Stuck on Zero
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The verdict is on.  That's why Obama is about to sign more trade treaties  ...  to see what effect losing another 20 million jobs will have.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:25 | 5522064 MachoMan
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Obligatory link to Charlie Rose interview with Sir James Goldsmith: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD255EEFDD0D9F07E

Tell me he didn't nail it...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:58 | 5522174 SuperRay
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The way that enormous turd clinton sold it was that we had to compete.  Now they're saying the same thing about the TPP.  Those bloodsucking motherfuckers won't stop until they suck all the life out of these stupid americans who don't have the brains or balls to do anything about it.

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 00:18 | 5522567 livefreediefree
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Everybody's All,

You posited the affirmative. Cite 1-3 cases where large countries (defined as among the 20% largest) benefited from a prolonged period (ie, decades) of trade protectionism.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:01 | 5521773 PrintemDano
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Most of, no,  ALL the black people I know have jobs. I like every one of them. I only deal with blacks at work, and don't live in the ghetto.  So trulz, I suspect that's true for most of white America.  The problem is predominately the blacks who don't work, they are the ones with long rap sheets being justifiably killed in the streets by cops, but mostly by other blacks in drug wars, turf wars, bitch wars, and diss wars. This race problem is one sided, blacks overwhelmingly the violent racists.  Whites justifiably scared to death of wandering through predominately black areas.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:58 | 5522160 mkkby
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We all pretty much agree a TINY minority of blacks are decent, hard working people who were raised with morals.  They are just as afraid of the ghetto blacks as anyone.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:39 | 5521915 More_sellers_th...
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trulz.... why the down arrows???wtf

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:22 | 5521597 knukles
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I'm getting very weary of the 50 years of racism conversation.
And 50+ years of monetary and social subsidies that "some folks" just don't seem to leverage to better lives.
Fuck it.
I'm weary of being called a racist because I disagree with someone other than a White Anglo-Saxon Protestant Straight Male about anything that's got to do with Something Other Than Race.
I'm weary of it.
So much so that one day I'm gonna start believing I'm a racist and begin acting like one.
So if anybody thinks I'm a racist, you ain't seen anything, yet.
Keep telling me I am and I so shall become.
Such outcomes have been ordained since time immoral.
No, I do not suffer White Guilt.
And think that Whites (or anybody else) who do (or anything akin to such) might just as well believe in Original SIn.
In which case it can be easily justified, the racial imbalance in prisons, etc.
Capiche?
Don't accuse somebody of being something they're not, because you just might get it good and hard.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:27 | 5521631 Herd Redirectio...
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Racist and anti-semite.  Maybe these phrases meant something at one point in time, but they have been overused SO MUCH, in an attempt to socially engineer 'WASPs' that they have become utterly meaningless.

It pretty much means "Shut up and stop thinking for yourself.  Don't believe your lying eyes (your eyes are racist) and believe the media"

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:48 | 5522517 TheGreatRecovery
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Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:47 | 5521725 angel_of_joy
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I always wondered what would happen with all the "educators", "media people" and similar smart asses, if all of the sudden people would stop carring when accused (whether rightly or wrongly) of racism. My guess is, their heads would just explode...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:33 | 5522315 armageddon addahere
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I've tried it for a laugh. They get snotty then shut up real quick. After 1 or 2 knee jerk phrases they got nothing.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:30 | 5521887 The_Dude
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I hear ya , knuks....I've had the same thoughts.

 

Maybe I should just start playing the part.  Probably be easier.  We'll see how they do when we all quit caring.....

Black guy got shot...fuck him...doesn't bother me....I'm racist.

Latino guy gets paid shit....fuck him...I'm the racist one.

Little brown kids dropping out of school.....fuck them...doesn't bother me a bit.

I can focus on me, my family and what matters in the world and finally turn off the whiny fucking people....

Ahhhh....feels better....

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:56 | 5521980 Parrotile
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Return to a small-scale, essentially isolationist (by todays standards) series of close-knit (often biologicaly close-knit) societes, which interact with other societies via trade.

A system that has worked reliably and very well for millenia, and a system where mass-murder via widespread "organised" conflict may not be so easy to foment.

Seems a very good idea. So of course this'll never happen ("Others" have their far more useful plans.)

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:56 | 5522532 TheGreatRecovery
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Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:41 | 5521929 More_sellers_th...
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I hear ya knucks... I was feeling the same way until I realized thats how they want me to feel ... Its by design... Fuck em... I love everybody who does or tries to do the right thing. 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:51 | 5522530 acetinker
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Another subject than can't rationally be discussed is intelligence level.  In my eyes it's not a race issue at all- it's about low intelligence.

I'm an old white dude who thinks Mike Brown and Eric Garner were needlessly killed, but if my assertion is correct, and we attribute certain behaviors to certain races, then we (and the cops) are gonna pull some boneheaded stunts.

Here comes the 'racist' part- Unfortunately, low intelligence is very common in the black community.  However, skin color is not 100% correlated to intelligence level.  

As always, sweeping generalizations cause bad behavior, on both sides of the issue.

Now, if you decide to subsidize the low intelligence community so it's allowed to thrive, ya' hafta' be a special kinda stupid to act surprised when things go wrong.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 22:44 | 5522821 toady
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WAY ahead of you! I used to care about, and try to be sensitive to race issues,but I just don't give a shit anymore. Somewhere between Rodney King and OJ I just gave up.

Abandon the black neighborhoods and let them kill each other off, or starve to death.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:17 | 5521588 gwar5
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Government welfare Cradle to Slave.

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:28 | 5521634 cdm
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"...real, underlying problem" = relentless attack of the family unit from every conceivable angle.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:19 | 5522037 frankly scarlet
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yes, I think it's time big oil and big agri and big pharma and big warfare and big politics and big big were cut off the public tit

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:13 | 5521564 NotApplicable
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I'd say it was the main reason that Soros, et al., had him "selected" over Hitlery.

2016 oughta be a real fuckin' hoot!

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:38 | 5521909 More_sellers_th...
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gotta be honest..... was not an issue until this dick came along.... just saying.....

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:16 | 5522426 TheGreatRecovery
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I think Johnson also said that, on account of his Civil Rights acts, the Democratic Party would lose the South.

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 03:54 | 5523220 MisterMousePotato
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It's not the "Democratic Party." It's the Democrat Party. Big difference.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 15:59 | 5521515 Salah
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You mean this.....   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QereR0CViMY

Unfortunately, the black man is way too tribal...sorry, dude.


Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:38 | 5521678 zookeep
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And so it goes.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 15:54 | 5521487 pods
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Always happens when you have groups of people of different races or sexes.  No matter what. People will self segregate.

pods

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 15:58 | 5521513 El Vaquero
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I think that racism is one of the most misunderstood social topics out there.  And, BTW, it's not the color of one's skin that causes your average person to hate one group or like another.  It's the culture associated with that group.  Various subcultures have popped up around various hues of skin.  Until we can have conversations where this is understood, race tensions will be full retard.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:02 | 5521532 pods
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I used to play a game with people about prejudice and racism to prove they were prejudice.  They would hem and haw that they weren't prejudice. I would show them that they were. 

I proudly say I am prejudice.  Keeps me sane and safe. 

Most everyone else is too. Few will admit it though.

Racist is a whole differnent ballgame, and most admitted racists merely hate the culture associated with that certain race in a given area, making them prejudiced and not actually racists.

pods

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:10 | 5521549 Clowns on Acid
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Yo pods - Try explaining that to Eric Holder. You will quickly find the IRS up yer arse with a flashlight, quickly followed by the NSA using your arse as a USB port. 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:23 | 5521609 El Vaquero
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Everybody who has been around for a while is prejudice.  Show me somebody who isn't, and you're showing me a newborn infant.  I am prejudice against people with gang tats because I don't like thugs.  It's a question of how you act on those prejudices.  Even with that, I still try to act in accordance with the golden rule.  It works far more often than not for me, and when it doesn't, well, that's what the Springfield XD on my hip is for. 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:30 | 5521883 Citxmech
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Having prejudices and making generalizations about folks is part of the human condition that is natural and unavoidable - this behavior can be taken way too far however.  

The main thing is understanding where you fit on the spectrum and making an effort not making others suffer for potentially inccorect presumptions e.g. walk the line between watching your back, but also giving folks the chance to demonstrate that they don't fit your stereotypes.

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:42 | 5522500 noben
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Lemme guess:  White, liberal to middle-of-the road, Christian?  Am I right?  What do I win?

In an ideal world, your sentiments are great and commendable.  In theory.  In practice... the reality is that the majority of people from other lands, cultures and races do NOT share your views or sentiment.  Their loyalty or solidarity to their 'own' may be stronger than yours.  If so, then the die is cast for those with your commendable but non-Darwinian views.

In the end... Darwinism (in all its complexity and ranges) beats liberalism.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 23:36 | 5522944 Citxmech
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Hm.  More like secular ccw packin' libertarian with solid dose of Basque, Spanish and Puerto Rican bood mixed in with the rest of my German/Irish/English roots - so no prize for you this time - but you do get an A for effort!  =]

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:55 | 5521973 Miffed Microbio...
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I have a friend who is a beat cop. She pulled a car over that had a broken taillight. As she was approaching the car a big black man came out and yelled at her " You pulled me over because I am black!" She replied. " No, I pulled you over because you are Jewish!" They both ended up laughing and she explained what the problem. She didn't give him a ticket and they went their separate ways peacefully.

To me, that was the best way I have seen to diffuse racial tension. Especially in an event that could have gone horribly wrong.

Miffed

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:24 | 5521610 exi1ed0ne
Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:11 | 5522012 Parrotile
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Pre-judice (pre-judgement) is an innate element of us as a species. We really ARE hard-wired to pre-judge situations / information, and we can trace this back to those bygone ages when failure to pre-judge a situation correctly usually meant death.

 

So we're all prejudiced. If we weren't, we'd be extinct. Simple as that.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:20 | 5522434 TheGreatRecovery
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I think most people are pretty good at detecting accents over the telephone.  I believe I can always detect an "Afro American accent".  And, whenever I am calling a government office or insurance office and need help, I breathe a sign of relief as soon as I detect that accent.  I don't know why, but I can't think of a single time those people have gone officious on me.  Rather, my memory is that, every time, they always go overboard to try to help me.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 21:13 | 5522573 noben
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Allow me to share an anecdotal story from a relative in Europe...

My relative's husband works for the Ministry of Defense in one of those smaller EU countries and is assigned to their NATO group in Brussels.  When she visited him and they went about shopping, she could not help but have a reflex-antipathy to the non-European people who were virtually everywhere.

Even though he was off duty, he noticed this from her body language and facial expression.  He told her to hide her antipathy.  She said that she can't help it, and just can't fake it.  He said he agreed, but had to fake it.  She then made some disparaging comments about these non-European people to him, and he told her to pipe it down, lest they be overheard.  She retorted that this was highly unlikely, given the relative obscurity of the language and dialect she was using.  He was so paranoid, that he suggested that even this might be possible, and it's best if they spoke in more PC terms and spoke more quietly.

The point is... If you have military guys being such kowtowing pussies, just to manage their gravy train careers, then how can you expect politicians or executives to be much different?

EU media and politicians have been so compromised, that I see NO chance of a color revolution any time soon.  I don't even see wide-scale mass protests happening regarding the US-Russia political conflict, nor any signs of massive anti-Americanism.  The combined effects cowardice and fear seems palpable in the US-dominated West.  This is reminiscent of Germany in 1936-39, but on an EU-wide scale.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:06 | 5521536 duo
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If a young black guy comes up to me in a polo shirt and nice jeans I wouldn't think twice about it.  If the same guy came up to me wearing a hoodie, pants below his crack, etc., I'd certainly feel nervous.  That type of dress is a uniform for intimidation.  Society has associated it with gangs and crime (and rap music).  Why can't Al Sharpton say "if you don't want to be treated like a criminal, don't dress like one, and don't act like one"?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:09 | 5521555 i_call_you_my_base
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Right, because in america, if you don't want to be stopped and frisked or harrassed you should have to wear certain types of clothing. Because freedom.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:20 | 5521600 LasVegasDave
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The constitution is not a suicide pact.

Fuck you for not having the intelligence to understand that concept.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:21 | 5521606 i_call_you_my_base
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You people are fucking hipocrites. You talk a big game about freedom and liberty and then justify beatings and harassment from the police based on what someone wears? What someone wears.

Fuck you for not having any conviction in your beliefs.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:28 | 5521640 shovelhead
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Get a haircut.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:42 | 5521694 knukles
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I sure as hell didn't hear anybody say that wearing something was a justification of a police beating.  I heard them say that if you wanna look like a thug, you can look like a thug and ...
You'd sure as fuck best realize that's how you're going to be treated BECAUSE that's how you asked to be treated when you dressed like that.

There are fucking choices and cause and effect, FFS!

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:45 | 5521702 i_call_you_my_base
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It's one thing to be treated badly by other citizens, it's entirely another to have your constitutional rights revoked because of it. How would you all here feel if wearing a rebel flag got you harassed by the police? You all would be fucking irate.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:54 | 5521747 LasVegasDave
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If it put me in danger, I would have the sense enough not to wear a rebel flag around people who were likely to harm/harass/arrest me for it.

 

 

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 00:24 | 5523007 i_call_you_my_base
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Because you're a pussy.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:21 | 5521844 Meat Hammer
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Maybe reading comprehension just isn't yo' thang!

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:12 | 5521568 chunga
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Some dangerous criminals have bald heads, beady eyes and wear pin-stripes.

They ride in the executive elevators, so watch out for them too.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:19 | 5521592 trulz4lulz
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The most dangerous criminals in the world wear $10,000 suits, ride in private jets and have a direct line to the military industrial complex, including nukes and creepy ass stealth subs.

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:32 | 5521649 V in PA
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Give a man a weapon, and he can rob a bank. Give that man a bank, and he can rob the world.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:40 | 5521688 chunga
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I am not buying the race shit that MSM is throwing out there non-stop.

Like ACP wrote, big gov is stoking the race flames to divert attention from IT being the cause of almost every problem. Just take a look at the coverage on ebola if you don't think every last thing is planned out and controlled. The Frieden CDC debacle started getting too blatantly absurd so Klain came in and Czar'ed the whole matter right off the map. MSM just shut it down practically overnight.

Loosie cigarettes, civil rights, racism, yeah right. Big gov and their cops are out of control and it doesn't matter about the rest of the shit the TV people try to get us to believe.

Divide et impera still works like a fucking charm.

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:56 | 5521978 Jugdish787
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I don't usually upvote...but when I do, it's for comments like this!

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:25 | 5521863 PrintemDano
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To me  dangerous criminals are the ones that are going to attack me on the street and beat me to death with a hammer, or shoot me and steal my wallet.  Those criminals in the pin stripe suits are indeed monstrous thieves, but are not dangerous in the way I think of dangerous.  All the criminals need to be hung by a rope, be they the ass crack sideways hat thugs, or the thieves in the pin stripe suits.  Just don't equate the danger aspect.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:34 | 5522475 TheGreatRecovery
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But aren't they somewhat dangerous if they steal your savings, your health, your house, your job?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:14 | 5521569 Clowns on Acid
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'cause thats rayciss...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:13 | 5521573 El Vaquero
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Because in today's society, that would get him labled as an uncle tom and he wouldn't get to be a parasite feeding on the tensions that he helps keep going.  Sharpton is a parasite on the black communities in this country.  We're not going to have the discussions on race and culture that we need to have in part because of people like him.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:59 | 5521697 itstippy
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"If a young black guy comes up to me in a polo shirt and nice jeans I wouldn't think twice about it.  If the same guy came up to me wearing a hoodie, pants below his crack, etc., I'd certainly feel nervous."

I grew up with the counterculture of the 1960's, and I watched it all unfold.

The original anti-establishment "Hippies" were well read and politically aware.  They wore long hair, ragged blue jeans with peace sign patches, love beads, sandals, etc.  There weren't very many of them, but they were vocal and visible and sometimes they blew shit up.  They scared the shit out of the establishment crowd at first.  But not for long.

Soon the guys on Madison Avenue realized this dangerous and rebellious youth trend could be made into a highly lucrative market.  They started selling mass-produced ragged blue jeans, sandals, peace signs, love beads, tie-dyed shirts, etc., in department stores.  It culminated with Jim Morrison hawking cars for General Motors.  The "revolution" was usurped and commercialized.

Same thing going on with baggy pants, hoodies, gold teeth, tattoos, etc. today.  98% of the kids wearing that garb aren't the anti-social violent scary youths you think they are.  They're just a bunch of young adults trying to fit in, falling for the latest trendy merchandized look.  Just counter culture wannabes.

"Peace, Love, and Understanding"

* but do watch out for the "Off the pigs!" faction.  They are pissed off and violent.  Been there, done that, many years ago.  May have to do it again.  Sigh.  Some things don't change.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:05 | 5521783 SilverCoinLover
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An obscure early 1980s new wave/punk rock group called Red Noise summed it up perfectly:

"Turning Revolt into Style!"

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:34 | 5522090 mc225
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ah.. bill nelson

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:27 | 5521861 czarangelus
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Dude every white college kid I know walks around in a hoodie and jeans when it's cold outside. I don't know if this is a generational thing or what, but stop yelling at kids and their damn music; the victims of police state oppression are not the problem.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:18 | 5522039 Parrotile
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> If a young black guy comes up to me in a polo shirt and nice jeans I wouldn't think twice about it.  If the same guy came up to me wearing a hoodie, pants below his crack, etc., I'd certainly feel nervous. 

Let's rephrase that.

"If a young guy comes up to you wearing the "uniform" (or dress-style) associated with your "Clan", you innately feel safe.

If the SAME young guy comes up to you wearing the "uniform" (or dress style) associated with a KNOWN hostile "Clan", you will innately feel "less safe" or "threatened".

The SAME has happened throughout history. Why can we not understand this.

"Integration" is biologically impossible - we are HARD-WIRED to be suspicious of others - goes right back to the very dawn of "hunter-gatherer" civilisation, where competition for resources meant life or death.

Is this information genomic? If so - the only way we'll fix this is by pretty avante-garde genetic manipulation - and our track record so far hasn't been so stellar.

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 00:38 | 5523029 duo
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Agree 100%.  But if one clan is associated with rape and murder, and the other side not, which side would you want around your hood?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:27 | 5522437 TheGreatRecovery
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It's not alway easy, but I find that every time I give respect, I get respect.  Every time.  So I start by saying, "sir" to any man, or "miss" or "ma'am" to any woman.  This seems to be a sort of universal language.  I believe Disraeli said, "every man can be gained with some sort of flattery".  Just saying "sir" must be flattery, I guess, in that it says to the person I am addressing, "One look at you tells me that you have the intelligence, ability, and attitude that a person would need to help me with this".

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:11 | 5521560 nuubee
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Multiculturalism is actually an inherently less stable society. This truth is suppressed because we have to pretend we can all just get along. People self-segregate because human nature tells us to trust the people who are most like us. And why shouldn't it? How can anyone expect to be fully understood by someone who has clearly had a vastly different experience than you? We congregate with like people because we want to be understood by the people around us. This has always been the safest possible survival mechanism, to find people of like mind to avoid the unpleasant and sometimes life-threatening misunderstandings.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:14 | 5521575 NotApplicable
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Which is exactly the reason that the elite push the meme of "diversity." All stable societies are unwanted competition to the unbridled power of the state.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:09 | 5521806 sleigher
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Well, everywhere except Zi town...  but we're not supposed to talk about that.

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:26 | 5521622 TrumpXVI
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Multiculturalism does result in a less stable society, but multiculturalism is also one of the diagnostic characteristics of an "empire".

When empires disintegrate, chaos is a typical result because of this very fact.

The best book on this subject is Naill Ferguson's, "The War of the World".  I highly recommend it.  Ferguson puts forth probably his most well reasoned argument that the twentieth century was as bloody as it was because ethnically homogenous "nations" were created out of the disintigrating remains of the several european empires that were destroyed by WWI.

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 15:55 | 5521488 ACP
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The whole "race" argument is horseshit.

It's simply used to deflect from the fact that the government is to blame for these recent issues.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 15:55 | 5521493 JailBank
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Can't have a real converstaion if you are labled a racist for saying anything one side doesn't like to hear.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 21:30 | 5522625 noben
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Indeed.  Heck, even in Science, one of its giants has become a defacto non-person, due to some comments he made.  This affects the Nobel-prize winning Francis Crick (co-discover or the DNA):

‘I am an unperson’: ‘Racist’ DNA discoverer forced to sell Nobel Prize medal

http://rt.com/news/210059-watson-dna-nobel-racist/

When the fear is so pervasive and Orwellian, that you can't even have an open discussion in terms of Academic Exploration -- without fellow scientist being conditioned like Pavlovian dogs, and quickly shut down any discussion on the issue -- then how can we pretend to be making  "progress"?

Are we so terribly incapable or fragile to discuss these topics (as many claim), or is it (more likely) that the power of such discussions may lead society down a different course than the one planned by TPTB?

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 15:55 | 5521494 JailBank
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Can't have a real converstaion if you are labled a racist for saying anything one side doesn't like to hear.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 15:57 | 5521496 JailBank
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Can't have a real converstaion if you are labled a racist for saying anything one side doesn't like to hear.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:00 | 5521517 Bastiat
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Worth repeating.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 15:59 | 5521518 Frank N. Beans
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don't be a repeat offender

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:16 | 5521579 JailBank
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Accident. My web is slow because protests.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:30 | 5522456 TheGreatRecovery
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hee hee  :-)  NO good deed goes unpunished!  (not that the REPLIES were punishment.  COMPUTERS are punishment. :-)

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 15:57 | 5521499 buzzsaw99
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Gonzales: There is one question, Inspector Callahan: Why do they call you "Dirty Harry"?

De Georgio: Ah that's one thing about our Harry, doesn't play any favorites! Harry hates everybody: Limeys, Micks, Hebes, Fat Dagos, Niggers, Honkies, Chinks, you name it.

Gonzales: How does he feel about Mexicans?

De Georgio: Ask him.

Harry Callahan: Especially Spics.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:11 | 5521561 gamera9
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Funny as much today as when I was 9 years old, and very apt

All we got on this team are a buncha Jews, spics, niggers, pansies, and a booger-eatin' moron!
Tanner Boyle

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:30 | 5522467 TheGreatRecovery
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:-)   Mexicans - especially Spics.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 15:59 | 5521510 SheepDog-One
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'Race', one of the best control mechanisms the .01% have.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:02 | 5521525 Martin Silenus
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White, black, brown, yellow, aquamarine: don't matter.  When the SHTF, we're all fucked.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:06 | 5521535 El Vaquero
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But don't think that the color of your skin can't play a role in how you get along with others when SHTF.  We're all fucked, but in areas where there are high racial tensions, the people there may be doubleplusbadfucked.  No matter how irrational the hatred, when shit comes unglued, there are people who will act upon that hatred if it exists. 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:08 | 5521548 Martin Silenus
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Totally agree.  Worst place to be would be the cities.  Nice to be in the middle of nowhere.  Further north the better, probably.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:29 | 5521638 Uchtdorf
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Yes, but you'll need a good heater for your tent up north. Be sure to get some non-flammable materials to protect the tent roof from glowing embers that come out of the stovepipe venting the smoke out of your heater.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:22 | 5521608 JailBank
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It doesn't matter if it is the trailer park, the ghetto, or the barrio when SHTF and EBT can only buy a loaf of bread then the neighborhood next door is done and will domino down the line. Better believe no cop is coming to help if they think their families are in danger at their homes. You'll be on your own.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:28 | 5521627 El Vaquero
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I'm not worried about racial tensions where I am.  Where I live, it's either whites, indians, or some of the old hispanic families who have been here since before it was part of the US and before Mexico was even a country.  They're different from what just about everybody in the US is used to.  Zombies wanting food is what worries me.  Black, white, red or brown won't matter too much here, except for the gangbangers.  They'll give a shit about it, but they won't last a month if food gets shut off.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:34 | 5521662 Martin Silenus
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Up here in Canada, the racism isn't nearly as prevalent.  There's a great equalizer: the fucking cold, lol.  Away from the cities, the biggest worry becomes wildlife.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:57 | 5521760 gatorengineer
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1) go to toronto or montreal whites are a minority in either.....t2) he big difference is the American Black culture, Canada, has north african blacks or caribbean blacks, whole different culture

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:37 | 5522485 TheGreatRecovery
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Amen.  When you're in survival mode, your friend is whoever helps.  Racism is a luxury you can't afford.  "The good Samaritan".

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:01 | 5521526 Duc888
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...should be a National Discussion about our employees, the Militarized Police.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:05 | 5521539 Falconsixone
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While "The" Red Chinese spray chemtrail death and the good ol usa pays for it. Geo-engineering makes a race war seem almost human. 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:07 | 5521545 Bay of Pigs
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"Where are all the white women at?"

Sheriff Bart (Blazing Saddles)

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:31 | 5521652 IronShield
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$hit; they are YOUR biggest problem.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:40 | 5522490 TheGreatRecovery
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:-)
Cole Porter:

I get no kick from champagne.

Mere alcohol doesn't thrill me at all.

So tell me why should it be true

That I get a kick out of you.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:10 | 5521553 insanelysane
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The government and MSM lost the conversation when the initially started citing how Ferguson's police department was mostly white while there is a majority minority population.  The inference is that white people can't police brown people which is as racist as it gets.  

911, What does the perp look like?

The perp looks like 1/4 black, 1/4 asian, 1/4 hispanic, 1/4 white.

Ok, we'll send the appropriately mixed police officer to arrest the individual.  

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:16 | 5521574 Dingleberry
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The real issue is Uncle Sam has replaced dad in mnay Black homes, and the results are obvious.

Add a pinch of thug culture, and a dash of media race baiting......

Oh well.....It takes a village......

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:23 | 5521612 KingTut
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In the cartoon, where are the asians, hispanics, native americans and moslems etc.?

More importantly, what's wrong with taking people one at a time?  The whole idea of worrying so much about the "race issue" is a kind of racsism.  It's based on the assumption that race defines the person.  It doesn't.  What the heck are we trying to socially engineer, anyway?  Everybody is supposed to like everybody else? Nonsense!

No race has a monopoly on inelligence or stupidity, honesty or dishonesty, morality or immorality, hard work or laziness, cruelty or kindness.  For better or worse, you find all of that everywhere.

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:36 | 5521668 LFMayor
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Dey whyte

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:25 | 5521624 Bill of Rights
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Remember, Cops we're not chosen to wear the badge due to their great virtue and courage; they APPLIED for the position! They were just normal people, and then they ASKED to be put in a position of "power" and "authority," which should, by default, make you trust them a lot LESS than the average guy on the street. Yeah, in THEORY there is some screening process to keep the real nastiest one's from being given badges. But that theory is now about as valid as the flat earth theory, given how many fascists have been caught terrorizing, assaulting and MURDERING harmless people ... and getting away with it.

So next time you see someone with a badge and uniform, don't think, "Gee, an agent of law and order!" Because that's B.S. ... Instead, think, "Gee, someone who ASKED to be allowed to DOMINATE and CONTROL others!" Because that's the REALITY of the situation."

An excellent rule of thumb is that control freaks seek sources of power. Whenever someone seeks or achieves a position where they have authority over an aspect of your life you have every reason to assume they are control freaks until proven otherwise.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:42 | 5521698 grekko
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I agree that we should (everyone) take one person at a time.  But until we rid the world of the FSA, or the FSA goes quietly into the night, the race baiters will be running the show.  Look how many want restitution for slavery that existed almost 100 years ago.  Sorry, I'm the grandson of an immigrant family from Poland.  What part of slavery restitution do I inherit from my grandfather farmer from Poland?  I'm white, but my kids are white/black/african/latino.  Do my kids owe anything for slavery, or do they collect?    There are plenty of black politicians/scholars/businessmen that are doing just fine today.  Read the words of Thomas sowell or William Grigg (Libertarian scholars) and find their truth.  Quite enlightening.

Sat, 12/06/2014 - 04:17 | 5523240 MisterMousePotato
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"Almost 100 years ago?"

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:42 | 5521700 shovelhead
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So are you going to chase down the guy who buries kids out in the woods?

Are you going to stop the drunk from slashing his wifes throat because dinner was late?

The cops aren't the only unpleasant people out there.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:32 | 5521650 grekko
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Try as you might, there will never be an end to racism until the FSA dies out and all the people start to talk on a level basis.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:33 | 5521651 Duc888
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Po Po has an image problem

"Hit him again"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGFRirjffRM

 

 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:37 | 5521672 TalkToLind
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The TEEVEE keeps telling us it is about race.  But Glenn McCoy understands what it is really about:

http://media.bnd.com/smedia/2014/12/05/07/14/DkBQu.AuSt.98.jpg 

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:39 | 5521689 Dre4dwolf
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Both sets of people are ignoring the banker taking the picture.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:49 | 5521728 Brindle702
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Best comment of the day

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:42 | 5521695 Everybodys All ...
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Find people jobs and provide real hopeful futures and you will be surprised at how fast this racism theme dies out on it's own accord. The problem even with health care system originates with poor job outlooks for far too many people.

Once again this redistribution socialist system under the surface disguised as capitalism and guided in by the liberal left is killing America day by day.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:37 | 5521907 PrintemDano
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You really believe St Skittles, and the Gentle Giant wanted jobs?   LMAO, now that is some funny shit.  

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 20:41 | 5522497 TheGreatRecovery
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:-)   Firesign Theatre: I Think We're All Bozos On This Bus:

"Mr. President, where can I find a JOB???"

"I hope that, in the future, we never have to answer questions like this one again".

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:45 | 5521709 AwkwardReader
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I tire of this tiresome shit. Fukc your pigment!

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:57 | 5521761 shovelhead
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The pigment isn't the problem.

It's the toxic culture a large portion of the pigmented emulate and engage in and those who make excuses for their actions.

Broken homes and neglected kids tend to make broken adults.

This seems to hold true for everyone.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:53 | 5521748 MrTown3
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In the meantime pretty much the entire Zerohedge audience goes right back to doing what the picture portrays...

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:12 | 5521822 August
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I will not be participating in any conversations about "race".

If someone cares to discuss behavior, I'm in.

"Behavior", by the way, definitely includes police behavior.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:27 | 5522073 JR
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Police behavior? Looks like you're talking race to me.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 22:52 | 5522835 StychoKiller
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BLUE Meanies!

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 17:18 | 5521837 shovelhead
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Probably because the message, "Quit acting like a lowlife dumb-ass thug nigga." isn't very well received.

A large percentage of the Great Society know nothing but the way they were raised to act because Papa was a rolling stone.

With whites it seems more spread out through rural areas than in the inner cities so it appears less apparent.

It isn't. There's plenty of small town crackavilles I wouldn't walk through in the midday sun.

Because the kids were raised exactly the same way.

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 16:58 | 5521767 JR
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It’s not about race; it’s about the destruction of the American culture. It’s particularly about the displacement of the majority White European culture, making the White culture the target of the diversity tsunami. And, I might add, America’s Black culture also will ultimately be the victim of the government’s open border plan to make America ethnically “safe” for our new rulers (as they have specified in arguments for their 1965 Immigration Act) -- the Jews.

No More White Neighborhoods

A new law will be finalized by the Obama administration in December that will allow the Housing and Urban Development Department (HUD) to chase down any areas that are “too white” and force them to bring in non-whites.

HUD will be mapping every U.S. ZIP code, neighborhood and block by its majority racial group and using the data to force white suburbs to change their zoning laws so that cheap housing can be built to house low-income minorities.

But you won’t hear about this rule in your mainstream media, because it’s not meant to be headline news. Although the alleged goal is to end “racial segregation,” it specifically targets white areas for “diversity” whether they want it or not.” – AFP, Dec. 1, 2014

Fri, 12/05/2014 - 18:31 | 5522087 Parrotile
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It'll be interesting if this law is applied to the top-echelon suburbs / area (the Hamptons come to mind).

I have noticed that commentators have mentioned that there will be "exceptions" to this blanket legslation, so are we to (reasonably) expect that the degree of "diversification" will be inversely proportional to the area mean net worth??

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