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Video Of The Day – This Is What Happens When You Call The Cops
Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,
In a healthy, moral and civilized society defined by the rule of law, police can play an important role. They should be people who come from the communities they promise to “protect and serve.” They should view themselves as a part of these communities, not as something separate and distinct. Police should see their jobs as having a great degree of risk, and must be willing to accept that risk. This means not pretending to be a solider at war, not choosing the most violent solution to every problem, and not viewing the citizenry as milk cows ready and willing to be drained of their assets via civil forfeiture.
Unfortunately, this isn’t the state of the police in America in 2014, and it’s quickly becoming obvious to everyone. Ferguson was a key moment in this awakening, when white pundits and others typically confined to less distraught communities, witnessed the militarized police in all its SWAT team horror for the first time. In the piece, “A Good Time Was Had By All” – The Obamas Dance the Night Away as Ferguson, Missouri Burns, I wrote:
I believe Ferguson will be seen as a major turning point. The point in which many well-intentioned, but incredibly naive folks in white mainstream America woke up to what we have become. Many people, particularly those in the media, have been willfully ignorant about the destruction of freedom and civil liberties in America. The events in Ferguson have taken a gigantic mirror and successfully pointed it squarely at our civil society and the image it has reflected back is one of a horrific, militarized, authoritarian monster.
Many people have strongly condemned the failure of a grand jury to indict officer Darren Wilson for the shooting of Michael Brown, but a far more disturbing failure occurred yesterday. This relates to a case from my hometown of NYC, where a cop was caught strangling an unarmed man to death in broad daylight for the non-crime of selling untaxed cigarettes. The man’s name was Eric Garner and the entire incident was caught on tape. It’s absolutely horrifying that the cops were not indicted here, and proves that like bankers, the profession is completely above the law.
I know, I know, where’s the proof? Well here’s some from FiveThirtyEight:
A St. Louis County grand jury decided Monday that police officer Darren Wilson will not face trial for shooting and killing unarmed teenager Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri. Grand juries usually return indictments; the one exception is cases involving police shootings. But more than that, police shootings, and allegations of police misconduct in general, almost never make it in front of a grand jury. And officers rarely face legal consequences for allegations of misconduct.
This chart from the site pretty much sums it up. Read it and weep.
Rather than giving cops the “benefit of the doubt,” I would argue that, if anything, police should be held to a higher standard. This is because once the general population starts to lose trust in cops things can get very nasty, very quickly. This trust is important and it needs to be based on reality, not propaganda.
To understand how absurd the lack of an indictment is in the Garner case specifically, the Huffington Post notes:
Grand juries are meant to determine only whether there is “probable cause” to indict a criminal suspect — a standard far lower than the “beyond a reasonable doubt” standard that comes into play when deciding guilt at trial. Federal prosecutors secured indictments in more than 99.9 percent of the 162,000 cases they brought before grand juries in 2010. But in Missouri and New York, two grand juries decided that even that low hurdle had not been surmounted.
How you can watch that video and not see probable cause is simply beyond me.
With that in mind, watch the following powerful video: This Is What Happens When You Call the Cops
The video highlighted several cases that I’ve written about here at Liberty Blitzkrieg.
Here’s a refresher:
Baby Bou Bou: 19-Month-Old Toddler in Critical Condition After Cops Throw Flash Bang Grenade into Playpen
James Boyd: Rebellion in the USA – Protesters Take Over Albuquerque City Council and Attempt to Arrest Police Chief
David Eckert: How a Routine Traffic Stop in New Mexico Turned into a Nightmare of Torture for David Eckert
*Photo at the top from the New York Daily News.
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Any old Savage, Remington, Marlin, Ruger, etc. will do just fine. Available at a gun show near you for under $150 all day long.
Ruger 10/22, of course. And don't forget the 110-round drum magazine. Yee haw!... ;D
Personally. I'd suggest a .308... Why? Well if you take a look at the videos on Youtube of the urban fighting in Syria, much (all) of it happens from behind concrete walls. .308 is the minimum caliber you're going to need if your target happens to be behind such a concrete wall.
Standard .223/5.56 and 762x39 will not penetrate.
e.g.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7aWMXuh0-w
.22's have their place. So do shotguns. So do pistols. But you're not really armed until you are armed with a rifle. So if you can only choose one weapon for your battery, choose a rifle. It's what you call a no-brainer -- not to mention the only way to "reach out and touch someone" reliably at 200 yards.
Makes a mess of small critters.
Pretty well set up wwith 7.62 and 30-06 , which I'm keeping for two legged varmints.
I use a Ken Waters receipe from his "Pet Loads" for my 06'. 168 BTHP, IMR 4064 and WW large rifle primer.
4064 gives a nice steady push to anything.
Why hell. Then what you need is a .22, by golly.... :P
I like the 5.56 AR-15 as a platform. This year I am adding a Blackout upper with a carbine-length barrel threaded for a suppresor. I like the ballistics (basically the thump of a 308 for CQ, in the same length as a 5.56, so I can use the same magazines). Next year I might try the 6.8 for the longer range power.
Bottom line: why only date 1 caliber? They're all beautiful in their own way...
It's good to have serious shooter in the family:
you always know what they want for Christmas.
Yep--Ruger 10-22 is the iconic choice. Ultra-proven.
semi auto rifle .22 are inaccurate. never equal a bolt.
period.
If you are going rimfire......forget the .22. Go .17 HMR.
Here's why.
.17 HMR penetrates bullet proof vest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG8CSKl0Nb4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXo3iGrftfQ
Gives pigs the eternal celestial dirt nap.....quick !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU23w9YllYM
135 yard fox kill....dead bang.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEDzju-KJEQ
190 yard shot on a rabbit. Dead bang.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMKNWwEWHzQ
Ballistic characteristics on a doe's head
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQWt4Fw3H2w
Ballistic gel slo mo of Hornady 17gr. .17 VMax
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zytdno_DK_M
And.....you can get it in a semi-auto AR-16 style.......that's right......RIMFIRE SEMI AUTO !
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV6Fo2g6dEA
Hmmm........
17 grains isn't much, but zero recoil.
You can look through the scope and see rounds hitting the target, pushing 4000 fps.
Another upvote.
Personal experience:
On a variety of critters ranging in size from gophers to coyotes, the .17HMR, more often than not, exhibits real world terminal performance that's way out of proportion with what one would reasonably expect from a 17 gr. bullet which leaves the muzzle @ 2550fps/245lbs ME.
Rem 513 T -----
I suggest you use this resource:
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For a 22 long gun, I would suggest a CZ, and find the variant that suits you.
All my 22 are 22 WMR, one's a semi auto with red dot and threaded barrel end. For pressure situations, I decided that accuracy trumps handgun caliber (quarter size or better accuracy any where on the property, both eyes open sighting). The threaded end is so I don't kill my hearing. If you get a long gun, consider that a concurrent purchase of 10K rounds should be a given, and in the course of use, that number should be maintained as a minimum. Trigger action upgrades over OEM are worth it.
The way I see it, it's cheaper to buy a backhoe than it is to hire a lawyer.
They can write you up a fine report to go along with the beating they will administer anyone who looks at them crosseyed.
Eventually everyone will figure it out... I hope so anyways
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgweRroogKg
i don't listen to rap anymore but I listen to that track. It's banging yo!
I suggest more people watch the Eric Garner videos. No one seems to have noticed that the selling cigarettes was made up, The guy broke up a fight and was then harassed by the cops. Such things are bound to happen, but of course the real outrage is the two-tiered justice system that allows the perpetrators to get away. And the establishment is lying by saying that the guy was breaking the law.
Interestingly the owner of the store had called in the po-po for selling loosies. He had like 9 prior convictions.
Cops have been promised pensions, raises, etc. And by God, they are going to extract it by any means necessary. Likewise, they are the collection arm of state/county governments.
Answer to any question starting with "why don't the cops focus on ______ instead" is: there isn't any money in it.
Well this is counterproductive then.
In Chicago, where the city had to float $100 million worth of bonds to help pay for police settlements related to abuse, the Chicago Sun Times found the city had paid out $450 million in the last decade with much of it due to repeat alleged abusers.
You want to end police brutality? Make them fucking pay for the legal fees and settlements. Hell, maybe fire one of them for this shit. There's a start!
ZH has gone full retard , well at least you can comissertate with the race baiters. How does it feel to be on the same wavelength as AL "the scrotum" Sharpton.
Those who think that the rampant civil rights violations will continue to only affect those "other people" should do a little critical thinking. Constitutional rights were given for a reason, and when rights are ignored eventually no one will be safe from the government.
Exactly. When they come for us all (and they will), don't expect anyone to stick up for you either. And everyone looks around and says, "I don't understand what happened." What happened is that no one did jack shit as they pushed the boundaries on those who could defend themselves the least. That's what happened.
As if those same justifications and excuses won't apply to us all when the time comes.
You are a good example of how the American system is supposed to be interpreted. +1.
the militarization of the police affects us all
The police are just dogs, well trained and well brainwashed, but still just dogs for the politician judges and prosecutors who are the real enablers of this culturally inbred and magnificently corrupt 21st century justice system.
The politician judges and prosecutors are just dogs too -- the pack leaders, the alpha dogs. They're there to bite and otherwise cause pain to the livestock to remind the livestock who's in charge. They work for the herders: the politicians and the media. The herders work for the PTB -- Kochs, Soros, Dimon, Waltons, Rothschilds, the Windsors (House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha), etc.
It's really not that much different from medieval feudal Europe, China or Japan.
Won't argue that ZH is in the process of going retard. But, this is about something else bubba. Race baiting is for the idiots (and there are lots of 'em).
ZH has been attracting a lower quality of commentator oover the years.
I was pretty awestruck when I first stumbled across this blog 4 years ago and saw the intelligent conversation going on.
That's been fading over the years.
Perhaps you've just grown wiser
Perhaps you should light a candle to the dearly departed.
TRAV
SLEWIE
FONZANNON
CHEEKY
FRANCIS
then ~ count your blessings.
FONESTAR
THE ONE... NO THING... PHOTOGUY... BEZZLE...
Wait a minute. Wrong site. Nevermind......
#FreeFrancisSawyer
the OG troll, Harry Wanger... lol
MillionDollarBonus
Also RobotTrader
hard to get a wise comment with your crack showing like that
I can remember the old days. My only regret is not posting then.
It's really not about anyone's color. The black police involved in Garner's killing should put that to rest.
It's about law abiding people having good reason to be afraid of those who are supposed to protect us from encroachments on our rights. And it will probably continued until it is our "protectors" who are afraid to overreach or to tolerate it among those with whom they serve.
Hey Mi, ya got that right. If ya watch that rap crap video you can see alot of white folks getting the same treatment. This ain't about black/white, it's about Master/slave. And we all know that slaves are not allowed to own guns.
Sandy Hoax?
Unrest is building nationwide and sure to explode, as the farce Grand Jury system keeps rubbing it in our faces that we can be murdered by cops and nothing will happen. There is nothing good to say about our police state.
In New Jersey the courts even protect the police from DWI ....to save their pension of course http://www.redbankgreen.com/2014/12/red-bank-rumson-cop-dwi.html
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/12/04/phoenix-police-unar...
"He shoulda armed himself"
~William Munny
They shouldn't have put Garner in a Macy's window display. That was wrong.
Vancouver police fatally shoot man carrying 2x4.
http://bc.ctvnews.ca/man-carrying-2x4-fatally-shot-by-vancouver-police-1.2114988
http://www.straight.com/blogra/776941/homeless-vancouver-hey-policewhy-so-much-killing
Long Beach CA man holding a water nozzle shot dead by LBPD, hit by twelve bullets. Taxpayers pay out millions, officers still on the job.
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/apr/04/local/la-me--water-nozzle-verdic...
http://www.texasobserver.org/grand-jury-clears-jasper-police-beating/
For a fucking unpaid traffic ticket! Not unpaid, partially paid, she only owed $100 and was kidnapped from her house by uniformed thugs and beaten at the station house ?!?!!? AND STRIP SEARCHED????!!!
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/video-surfaces-of-texas-police-executing-hand...
This is what happens when the hiring profile by TPTB is for short males with anger issues.
Wow so many Heroes are killing the taxpayers !!!!.....(I always hated that Hero bullshit, since I was I high school !!!)
To blame governmental confiscations and the like on individual policemen is disingenuous. They are just doing as instructed. Also, as the general population becomes shows less and less concern for individual life the police will react to protect themselves. When the police do not act as invincible altruistic superheroes the press treats them a villains. How would you react if you were facing a 300 pound giant that was trying to beat you to death??????
How about not fucking with 300lb giant in the first place !!!.....I don't have to kill him, because I'm not going to fuck with him (and I'm not going to with a 99lb weakling either)
The cops job is to handle the 300 pound asshole, from bothering the rest of us. If I shoot the dumbfuck, then I go to jail. Let the cop do it.
Fucking people don't understand how many assholes the cops deal with. They don't play nice with jerkoffs.
IT'S BEEN THAT WAY A VERY LONG, LONG TIME.
SOme of you fuck brains were born yesterday?
There is a law for unis, and a law for weins, and they aint the same law.
That's right, cops beating, pepper spraying, taking head shots at seated and cuffed people is really fucking tough. Hauling back and striking someone in the face because you don't like what they said to you. Get a fucking life asshole. Obviously FUCK BRAINS you were born yesterday. Instead of striking or kicking(really???!!!!) a suspect or criminal, I believe grabbing and pinning down is certainly an easy way to restrain a suspect. COPS are NOT MMA fighters, but the above video and other countless multiple examples point to too many of these fuckups feeling that I wear a blue costume and have a badge and a gun, so fuck you, I'm gonna beat you down, cause I love the power.
Once again, FUCK YOU!!!!
Considering nobody was in grave danger until the officer put himself there, he probably should have waited for backup rather than putting himself in a situation that could escalate and end badly, which it did for everybody except the police overtime take.
Just like tha Nazi guards, just following orders.
So...the point of the video, if I understand it correctly is: Don't call the cops. Call the POLE-ice!
I don't think the concrete jungle noise in the video was helpful at all.
The noise is that man's music. Actually his art form/way to express himself, even if you lack appreciation. The video is beautiful.
I guess we should defund the system completely and see if someone with a brain and the ability to communicate shows up. Jew built and propagated it in every direction possible. Funny they're not really that smart after all they profess to be.
If you have a sheriff department, get it changed back to a Sheriff's Office.
Hire a Sheriff you can trust. We had an election recently where a candidate for Sheriff was run out of town on a rail. A former state senator and state rep., given the goddamned bum's rush.
Have your Sheriff's Office hire deputies from around the land. Have their first action be to strip the badges of, and frog-march any local or federal police to the county line. Enforce consitutional law, not policy. This is the only way to work it.
Nullification, folks. First. Before secession. N-u-l-l-i-f-i-c-a-t-i-o-n.
>>where a cop was caught strangling an unarmed man to death in broad daylight for the non-crime of selling untaxed cigarettes.
Fail. selling lucy's is a crime. in addition what you and many other progressive liberal loonies fail to mention is the elephant in the room, that would be the perpetrator. he made a bad choice. maybe next time he should comply but unfortunately for this 37 prior arrest career law breaker there won't be. and pray tell me out of the 37,000 similar incidents that happened in 2013 (the last available statistics) you can't even count on one finger how many similar situations we've had. 2-3 out of 37,000 is not an epidemic sir.
All police-state apologists should kill themselves.
Or get killed by one of those cops.
Surely there is a law on the book that they have already violated... and can be field-executed for.
Cigarettes, really? You mean it wasn't Meth, Weed, Heroine, Molly, Oxy's. You mean just plain old fucking cigs? Is it also a crime to bum a cig off a freind too? Shall we put the beat down on both of them. How bout selling watches in the subway. Taxman don't get his money there either!! A citation maybe, an arrest, not on your life. But sure selling cigs deserves a banned nypd chokehold takedown. And fuck the consequences, cause for me, a blue costumed sociopath with a metal badge, there are NONE!
pretty fucked up to think someone lost his life over cigs...
really fucked up...
unbelievable...
It may have been an infraction of over burdensome regulations. IT was certainly not a crime.
at the time of the takedown he was not / nor before - selling cigarettes
cop contrivance
Maybe next time my lead slinger will find its way into the skull of the real-perp here... Bootlickers can't stand someone not paying taxes.
A lot of chaff with the wheat here. Should you think twice before calling the cops? You bet. Someone could end up dead, including you, your dogs, a loved one, or a neighbor. I once called the cops because I suspected that vagrants were squatting in a vacant house next door. When the police car pulled up to the curb, I walked outside to meet the officer. Imagine my surprise when I turned the corner and saw that the officer was already holding a drawn weapon and looking straight at me. Lesson learned.
But stop the horseshit about Ferguson. The physical evidence, and the testimony of _creditble_ witnesses, all added up to a justified shooting. Just another Trayvon hoax by the MSM.
There should be laws against cops shooting unarmed people.
Cops are generally good until they are not.
I live in a small rural 'two stoplight' town, where hardly any major crimes ever happen. Yet, when you go out, the police are EVERYWHERE. They're like an occupying army. They even have a huge 'RV'(armored vehicle), and "mobile command center"(a huge tour bus sized thing) with dishes and antennas all over it! LOL
Most of them terribly unfriendly as well. The speed limits on all of the roads are set unreasonably low, and they sit and shoot radar, and monitor traffic constantly. I can't imagine where the funding for all of that crap comes from. There aren't enough people here to write tickets to and tax. Much of it HAS to be coming from fed/state.
When does pig-hunting season start?
I have been on juries, criminal and civil, but never a grand jury. I am only vaguely familiar with how that process works, but what would it be that makes grand jurors hesitate to indict cops to such a large degree? I mean, what does it take to actually indict a cop if something like this isn't enough? I'd assume there are lawyers involved. So the accused has a lawyer? Who is the prosecutor representing - the people?
Do the prosecutors just not attempt to get an indictment when it regards cops, or why would these statistics be so skewed? I don't grok this.
I'd assume there are lawyers involved. So the accused has a lawyer?
There's the rub. The accused has no lawyer present at the Grand Jury (unless you are a cop and then the 'procesutor' is your defense attorney) which is why GJs return so many indictments. In essence, you do not get to defend yourself before a Grand Jury.
These fucks can get a warrant to search via probable cause when a dog scratches his balls, but they can't get probable cause with video of a pig strangling a man who has not even been arrested?
There are no lawyers or judges in a grand jury hearing. The prosecutor is trying to convince the jury there is enough evidence to warrant a trial - to gain an indictment by the grand jury. Prosecutors can bring charges without a grand jury indictment, but there is more burden in proving the merits of the charges to the trial judge. The problem with prosecutors attempting to gain an indictment against police is that the prosecutor and police work together day to day. Therein lies the bias. Some have argued for an inquest in these cases - a public airing of the evidence by a non-prosecutor. That could help, but they would still have to take evidence before a grand jury or trial judge to get a trial. We really need to get the prosecutors out of the grand jury when it involves cops.
I was on a jury once. trivial traffic matter 3 days. Show up in morning, leave in evening.
When I realised that as a juror, you are in the criminal justice system and that YOU ARE NOT FREE TO COME AND GO, I wanted nothing more of USA society.
Call me irresponsible, selfish, unpatriotic, not civic minded, whatever - but when I realised that the armed bailiff is there, in part, to keep ME in the jury box, I was done.
When you get a jury summons, you are being summoned, by force, by the court.
You are forced to do this - choice, civic duty, the wording is all nonsense.
The entire time all I could think of was:
""Get me out of here.""
I tried all the tricks, could not get disqualified.
I want nothing to do with the USA criminal justice system in any capacity on any side of the bench, lawyers table, witness box or jury box.
The right to have a jury (along with the right to have witnesses at trial) is one of the rights that separates (or, is supposed to separate us, but doesn't) from dictatorships where, if you're lucky, you get a show trial before you are executed. It may be inconvenient, but you'll appreciate it if you're ever on trial. Who am I kidding? If you plead "not guilty" they will pile on so many charges that you will go bankrupt defending yourself or plead guilty to one thing just to make the other charges go away. Even if you are innocent, the cops and the prosecutors will commit perjury (the judge knows this, but doesn't care as his performance is based on his conviction rate), so you're screwed either way.
You should be GLAD that you live in a society where jury duty is mandatory.
It's USA or Iraq ?
Thanks God that I don't live in USSA, if was born here I would get the fuck out ASAP and resign my nationality (to avoid paying anything to IRS fucker even if you live in Amazonia).
kind of a one sided video
I mean, let see one that shows the reason why some of these guys become that way
don't be so judgmental
it can be a very nast job workn with thugs YO
But, yet, they choose to do it. Let that marinate for awhile.
They are not forced to take the job and if they are so afraid for their safety that they can not perform in a responsible way they should find another line of work.
Yes let's feel sorry for the bully cops. Weep for me New York City. Can I as a private citizen just become that way and wail off on someone because I either want to or know I'll probably get away with it. Sniff, sniff, I became that way cause I had a bad day, terrible childhood, have hemmorhoids, bad acne, etc... There are very different ways those and multiple situations can be and should have been handled. Please stop having sympathy for the devil.
this has been going on for decades. US Marshals don't even swear an oath to uphold the U.S. Constitution.
Sheriffs are not even a valid office in our being a Republic.
The police are being played as idiot meat by those in power. Individually each policeman means nothing to them and "if" the shit hits the fan the police will be hung out to dry and left to the mercy of the mob.
What happens when one jackal goes lame? He is eaten by the other jackals ... the same will happen with those who proclaim, but do not in fact serve the people.
Watch Stackers' video (16:22).
A sleeping giant is awakening.
Mike Krieger, thank you.
Not sure if other readers are familiar with Ian Welsh, but he's a thoughtful blogger, and his recent post on the (police/Garner) topic is worth reading:
http://www.ianwelsh.net/in-light-of-eric-garner/
It's not honest to show a graph of the raw numbers of incarcerated, like Welsh does, and act like it shows an epidemic of imprisonment. The raw numbers don't take into account the rise in population.
What has to be compared is the rate: which has gone from 0.08% of the population being imprisoned in 1925, or 80 per 100,000 population, to 0.53% in 2005, or 560 per 100,000 population. (Source.)
Yes that's a seven-fold increase in the incarceration rate, but even that figure is skewed. The fact is, fully 99.47% of the American populace were not incarcerated in 2005, versus 99.92% who were not incarcerated in 1925.
Which means the increase has been miniscule in the only term that matters. Which term is, btw, the likelihood that I am or will be incarcerated, lol...
This isn't rocket surgury, people. Suffice to say, with a guy trying this kind of lame sleight of hand, I'm not interested in the slightest about learning who Ian Welsh is.
The incarceration rate of the United States of America was the highest in the world, and while it represents about 5 percent of the world's population, it houses around 25 percent of the world's prisoners
If you don't believe that is a serious problem, I can't help you.
I'm not defending Welsh if he used statistics is a questionable manner, but you are wrong to throw out the baby with the bathwater.
underlyin' facist rot.
Fucking amateurs. You only call the cops so you can ask his daughter where the gold is so you can burn down the fed sponsored house.
Jezus fucking christ, amateurs. Lots of guns, Big Mac braindead.
I agree that the police state has been increased by the fascists in our government. Dems more than Repubs, but both are guilty.
I just wish the public would latch on to cases where this was apparent, and not cases where it was justified police force.
Oops, I was going to comment but luckily read the comments. Thought I was on Zero Hedge but it must be adolescent hour in mom's basement.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmMRaUX-QSM
my local police are a branch of the Waffen SS.
They even have a tank and armored personel carriers. I am not sure who they are fighting or protecting.
They hate everyone. They never smile. Never talk.
They just peer behind their dark glasses, gently seething. At any monet they will explode and kill. Its why they joined up.
I dislike them. I avoid them. I am scared of them. I am white.
I suppose you hear voices too. Christ, what a paranoid bunch we are today.
Denial is a defense mechanism, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. The subject may use:
• simple denial - deny the reality of the unpleasant fact altogether
• minimisation - admit the fact but deny its seriousness
• projection- admit both the fact and seriousness but deny responsibility.
Works both ways ... You can deny that there is a policing problem ... or, you can deny that there is a hyper level of paranoia about the police ...
Essentially, a useless concept.
How long was your dad a cop? How often did he beat you for your own good?
35 Whelen - member for 4 weeks and 4 days.
Been reading the site for 4 years ... what? Did I miss something; membership changes something?
haven't u heard? Membership has its privileges.
If you have been reading ZH for four years and haven't been sufficiently inspired enough to get an account to post a response to something, you haven't really been reading.
EVERY 4-6 week asshole out there SWEARS they have been reading ZH for YEARS. I have seen this 3 times in the past week. Where the fuck do these assholes come from? STFU about how long you have been lurking, it dont mean shit if you can't prove your ZH cred.
Idiot for decades.
Slouching around all day and living for free may have something to do with it.
Long days in a tobacco field would work off the excess energy.
Duh. A group of oligarchs, bankers and industrialists that took over the institutions of finance and education and simultaneously took over federal politicians. They created organizations that supplied the politicians with policies that the federal politicians never read but vote on to get more campaign money. The armed forces where moved to foreign control and the United States became a conquered nation-state that is used against other nations in an attempt of the oligarchs, bankers and industrialists to conquer the world. To quell any internal opposition the same people had the educational system promote their agenda and they militarized the police. They shut down the industries in the United States to prevent any wealth from being used against them. Those with independent wealth were allowed to enter their system as a means to evade opposition. They took control of the printing press and the markets and used those formerly regulated systems as a means to pay for their weapons used against all that might oppose them. They legalized propaganda to be used against US citizens and created a legal system to superimpose on the US through treaty. They placed themselves and their law enforcement agencies above the law and now they are implementing the physical killing of the masses.
The war is on bitchez.
You can arrest two men: Jamie Dimon and Loyd Blankfein and have things immediatly revert back towards justice or live out the future of war in the United States of America.
If you all are really so upset about the way that each induvidual policeman enforces the laws of the land perhaps you should petition your local governments to institute "Police Free Zones" where you could move to and enjoy uninterupted harmony.
Wouldn't work ... soon they'd be ripping each other apart trying figure out who launched the fascist conspiracy that brought so much crime to the no-cop zone.
They already have police free zones. They're called the hood.
The hood isn't crime ridden because there's no cops. It doesn't have cops because it's crime ridden.
Ultimately the people have to police themselves, or no amount of LEOs will be able to maintian order.
It's already a done deal. Go on YouTube and type in "Crenshaw Takover". The 2o minute vid is a pretty good one. One AM in the morning and you have hundreds of people out there and pretty soon, they get cracking! Big ol' burnouts, wild street antics and you don't see one cop showing up. Sure they're here and there and of course the helicopter shows up, but no rolling units. The po-po is smart enough to stay the fuck away!
Personally, I like it. They're out having a blast at one or two am and heck, I'd love to bring my '74 Stingray out there and getting wild too!
I like that idea...works for me..
Better yet, demand that "tough on crime" prosecutors prosecute police. They never do, unless there is some kind of public pressure. You seem to be against anarchy, but we already have anarchy... if you work for the government; they refuse to obey the rules and laws that govern them, and there are no consequences. This is what happens when you vote for Democrats or Republicans.
What one puts out comes back ten fold, i.e. as you sow, so shall you reap. It's a law on Nature and it does work like that, one way or another...all in time.
Armed Citizens and a Fascist Police State cannot coexist.
Ya have to keep in mind. Cops used to be called "(*This City's*) Finest". That hasn't been true for a generation, if it ever was. Now I drive around municipalities in California and I see lit marquees *ON THE STREET* telling everyone during rush hour that the local police department is accepting applications for officer positions. Police departments are DESPERATE for anyone who can pass a drug test and follow instructions.
We're policed by a trained underclass, effectively. Should it be any surprise that the underclass can't handle being treated this way? This is, of course, long before you even consider the absurd laws in the U.S. that the police departments are often forced to enforce (against their own desires).
I blame the drug war. Any sane person who wanted to be a peace officer left the force long ago when they realized they were being asked to break into people's homes, and look the other way when mistakes were made in confrontations with the public.
Yeah, I have to agree, the war against drugs has created many problems. Does that mean that it should have never been fought and everything should be legal? If so who should pay for all of the problems and support the children of the indigent parents that unlimited drugs would create?
The indigent parents need to pay for it. Not one taxdollar dime needs to be spent on it.
If their children end up dead then they need be prosecuted for neglect and manslaughter. There are already laws on the books for that.
But NOT PROSECUTED FOR DRUGS.
It is the same with firearms. A firearm does not upon its own volition jump up and kill someone else.
It, like a drug, is inert and innoucuous, until it is used or it is abused. And there are already laws on the books to deal with the consequences of that abuse.
That is the problem with Socialists as yourself. You always want to make somebody else's business your business.
Guess what? That is just the receipe for totalitarianism.
Now it is rather REVOLTING if you ask me. I prefer LIBERTY and FREEDOM.
And I just hope that your Canary chickenshit asshole can handle what your allegator mouth has bitten off. And man have you borrowed yourself a heapin' helpin' of that thar trouble.
Yeah. That causes mental constipation. You need to lay off on that stuff. Maybe you need to mnid your own business?
But since you won't you will end up getting your Civil War. I hope that you can protect yourself. (Yeah...Without Guns...Yeah...I'd like to see that...)
But you can take some solace with this...
When seconds count you can be assured that your Police are Minutes away...if not hours in a Civil War scenario.
Enjoy dyin' Socialist scum.
We already have unlimited drugs. You won't find a drug dealer in the country saying, "Damn... here I am with all these drugs and I can't find anybody to buy them."
The two female NY Finest in the video should be the model for all police officers. They can't catch anybody but as long as they can't hurt anybody, who cares.
If Darren Wilson waited in his patrol car for backup after Michael Brown tried to take his gun, I wonder what Wilson would have done if these two female cops show up as his backup.
http://www.surenews.com/crime/embarrassing-two-female-nyc-police-officer...
How hard would it be for out of work liberty minded people to get in and then wash out right before the first day of actual thuggery? Does take some acting skills (I hope) but might be a good way to get training and intel. Same goes for the TSA. I see they are desperate for minions too.
I agree the situation is bad. I don't want the cops around. Can we please get the demonstrators to stop making the situation worse by giving them an excuse to mistreat us even more?
Don't know what you're all bitchin about. You let it happen. Ever think about organizing and taking your country back. No, I didn't think so. It's just a lot easier to sit around and bitch. Let someone else take the bullet fopr you. Pussies!
Lead on, hero. Where's YOUR rebel army?
I drip/spew and vocalize contempt for the US. (not it's 90% people), I am consistent with my unfailing contempt of this political regime/financial Ponzi/abuse. And I totally see and condemn the "takeover BS" of Canada/Mexico and now the Ukraine and so much more.
This has just got to stop. Otherwise why give birth? to another victim.
I wonder when the 90% US citizens will get it?
I wonder what the hell your idiotic remarks have to do with this article. Who cares if you hate the US. You don't matter.
Maybe someone should inform Krieger that grand jury decisions aren't based on statistical analysis. They are based on evidence for a particular case.
The jury got it right in Ferguson and wrong in NYC based on the facts.
In NYC it was clear the officer used an illegal choke hold. Thus there was no reason not to indict him for that felony.
Ferguson was an entirely different set of circumstances - again based on the facts not statistics!
It's quite possible that the police have a lower cnviction rate because they are trained in the law and have some leeway. Without the leeway, no one would take the job because it can be dangerous work.
Are there bad cops? Of course. That's why some get fired or convicted of crimes.
Ferguson was a travesty, Wilson was an incompetent cop who pulled his gun too quickly, and the prosecutor was an attorney for the defense.
Nope. Brown punched Wilson while Wilson was still in his vehicle. Wilson couldn't exactly punch Brown back in retaliation since he was still in the vehicle.
If you punch a police officer, don't be surprised if he shoots you, especially if the officer is in his vehicle and you've just slugged him.
Witnesses also describe seeing Brown reaching into the vehicle. So what was he reaching for if it wasn't Wilson's gun?? The answer is nothing - Brown was reaching for Wison's gun which Wilson had drawn in response to being struck in the face.
So Wilson shot him. Only then did Brown back off. Then he made the mistake of charging Wilson. Brown shot him a couple more times, but Brown kept coming which was his fatal mistake.
Ballistics only penetrate 6 inch to 12 inch of ballistics gel with many hand held firearms of modest calibre.
You think that is bad? It's not if the target is 400lbs and 2 feet thick. Then all you did was piss him off.
Against a normal sized person, yes, But if you are charged by a rhino, elephant, hippo or bear, you want a rifle with a large round insde because your handgun is going to be eaten along with you and the animal will just be pissed off as you shoot him with your pesky bullets.
Same thing with this guy who accosted the Pakistani Quick-E mart owner and then the cop.
ive never understood why the police are so keen on killing people. Why not, when possible, shoot an armed person in the leg or arm-that will, in MANY cases bring them down=especially when there is distance-or use a Taser. We had a crazy guy here holding a Samari sword in public who was obviously mentally ill. The police descended up on his fixed stance, where he was slaying imaginary dragons, ordered him to drop his weapon a half dozen times-and they instead, shot to kill. and he was dead. This death by suffocation when the man on the ground was overwhelmed by 5 cops is just plain criminal and should be punished severely. It is murder. The guy in Ferguson may not have been so innocent, but the police HAD DISTANCE on him, and could have Tazed or shot an arm or leg out. The perp would have no other choice but to surrender -he is immobilized, esp when shot in the leg.
Interesting fact: in the early 1970's Seattle had the distinct labelling as: city with most cops per capita; City where most cops were killed each year; This was during the days of Radicals-Weathermen (often infiltrated by the FBI.) They also set up stings to blow up structures around the city, blame it on the radicals, then come in and arrest at the very last moment;
"Why not, when possible, shoot an armed person in the leg or arm?"
You've been watching too many movies. In most cases the cop has only seconds to react. Sometimes not even that. Why don't you suggest he shoot the gun out of the perp's hand altogether
WAAAAAAYYYY too many movies or kiddie westers or some such. It's a helluva different thing when its YOU and its REAL.
Exactly if you hit someone in the thigh it is a decent chance it pierces the femoral artery/vein and a person bleeds out real quick if it severs it even partially given the volume of blood that pumps through it unless a tourquiet is applied. Even a shitty .22 or .38 can do it and especially something larger caliber like a .45 or 9 mm casing.
People see this BS in movies where a guy gets shot in the shoulder/gut/arm and somehow keeps on going with just a slight grimace on their face or is magically back to work after a brief hospital stay.
If you get into a jam with a big bad mofo, please don't trust a taser or three to stop him.
You think shooting someone in the arm or leg is a safe alternative, you can easily lose the leg or arm or bleed out. How about just not shooting?
my Uncle ran an indie movie theater. He was also a "New Ager' this was 35 years ago-he lived in a quiet well kept neigborhood. He would leave his door unlocked (good Karma)once he came home with the theaters reciepts, counted and left it spread all over the living room floor. Then he left. BINGO! when he came back all the money was gone-about $5k
Dumb story!