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Russia Warns May Send Troops To Ukraine After Congress Unanimously Votes To Give Lethal Aid To Kiev
While the market, and America's media, was focusing over the passage of the Cromnibus, and whether Wall Street would dump a few hundred trillion in derivatives on the laps of US taxpayers once again (it did), quietly and unanimously both houses passed The Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014, which authorizes "providing lethal assistance to Ukraine’s military" as well as sweeping sanctions on Russia’s energy sector.
The measure mandates sanctions against Rosoboronexport, the state agency that promotes Russia’s defense exports and arms trade. It also would require sanctions on OAO Gazprom (GAZP), the world’s largest extractor of natural gas, if the state-controlled company withholds supplies to other European nations (yes, the US is now in the pre-emptive punishment business, and is enforcing sanctions on a "what if" basis).
But while one may debate if additional sanctions will do much to impact a Russian economy which is already impaired due to the plunging ruble, the clear escalation is that unlike previously, when the US limited itself - at least on paper - to non-lethal assistance to the Ukraine, now the US is finally preparing to send in weapons, and potentially "military advisors" as well. We say "on paper", because in late November hacked US documents revealed the extent of secret US "Lethal Aid" for the Ukraine army. And since America's under-the-table support for Ukraine's insolvent armed forces has been revealed, there is little point in pretending to keep a moral upper hand (especially in light of recent "other" revelations involving the US, most notably its intelligence services).
And as has happened for the entire duration of the second Cold War, any action by the US was promptly met with a just as provocative reaction by Russia. In this case, a leftist member of the Russian Duma said the US Senate’s decision to arm the Kiev regime should prompt ‘adequate measures’ from Russia, such as deploying military force on Ukrainian territory before the threat becomes too high.
In other words, in addition to the global energy meltdown which is about to send oil exporting nations into a state of shock matched only by owners of US High Yield energy bonds, the Ukraine conflict, which the algos and carbon-based Portfolio Manager forgot about, is about to re-escalate, with Russia now set to recreate the Crimea annexation after it officially sends its troops on Ukraine soil.
“The decision of the US Senate is extremely dangerous. If it is supported by the House of Representatives and signed by their president, Russia must reply with adequate measures,” Mikhail Yemelyanov of the Fair Russia party told reporters on Friday.
“It is quite possible that we should return to the decision by our Upper House and give the Russian president an opportunity to use military force on Ukrainian territory preemptively. We should not wait until Ukraine is armed and becomes really dangerous,” the lawmaker stated.
Yemelyanov also noted that in his opinion the US Senate’s decision to arm Ukraine had revealed that Washington wasn’t interested in the de-escalation of the Ukrainian conflict. He then said that US actions gave him the impression they was seeking to turn Ukraine into some sort of an “international militant targeting the Russian Federation.”
“In a few years Ukraine will turn into a poor and hungry country with an anti-Russian government that will teach its population to hate Russia. They will be armed to the teeth and Ukraine and US reluctance to recognize the Russian Federation within its current borders would always provoke conflicts,” the MP said.
So does this mean that what was a lingering proxy cold civil war in east Ukraine between NATO-armed Ukraine troops and Russia-armed Separatists and local militias is about to escalate into a shooting precursor to something greater? There is still hope an all out escalation can be avoided. From Bloomberg:
White House press secretary Josh Earnest said today that the administration hadn’t finished reviewing the language and isn’t ready to take a position on the legislation. He said the administration wants to ensure that the U.S. and its European allies are working together, that any sanctions are effective and that they minimize harm to U.S. and European companies.
“This is delicate work,” Earnest said.
Did we say "there is hope"? Never mind.
The good news is that preparations for yet another world war are taking place, the US will "prove" it has the moral superiority by offsetting Russian propaganda.... with its own propaganda!
From the last line of the Ukraine Freedom Support Act:
"Directs the Chairman of the Broadcasting Board of Governors to submit to Congress a plan for increasing the quantity of Russian-language broadcasting into the countries of the former Soviet Union in order to counter Russian Federation propaganda. Requires such plan to prioritize broadcasting into Ukraine, Georgia, and Moldova by the Voice of America (VOA) and Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty."
Which can only mean one thing: the US is about to flood the airwaves east of the Dnieper river with reruns of Rocky 4 all over again.
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Excellent idea to send weapons in the winter ...
Napoleon and Hitler were also wise ...
Gave in giving ...
Port that exports 1/3 of Libyan oil is incapacitated. Great news for Europeans.
hehe.
Shit is the fan, put his sunglasses and expect the great "flash".
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I agree that Vlad had enough, today presented patience of Job (the prophet).
I also agree that the physical response of a Slav is insane, is subtle as a pachyderm.
Your step fucks all ...
:-)
Now all we need to see is Poroshenko murder some Buddhists and get assasinated by the Ukrainian Generals and the parallels are complete.
Maybe history does repeat?
I'm sick of that stupid rhyme meme. Go back to the original.
Looks like the Ukes are staging a production of "Springtime For Hitler".
Good luck. The critics in that town are tough.
Nothing Is True and Everything Is Possible: The Surreal Heart of the New Russia
Peter Pomerantsev (New York: Public Affairs, 2014)
This is the strangest book of note I have ever read. And that’s as it should be, since the subject is Russia, the strangest country of note I have ever visited.
Peter Pomerantsev has written the most bitter indictment of a nation’s politics and society going wrong since William Shirer’s 1941 Berlin Diary. Pomerantsev has also written a calm and incisive report on the current state of affairs in Russia. Yet it reads like a comedy of manners, a dark and grotesque comedy of manners, a State Department white paper co-authored by Evelyn Waugh and Franz Kafka. And not only that, but Nothing Is True is a bildungsroman, too.
Russia today is not as strong as the Soviet Union once was, but Vladimir Putin has used energy and financial leverage, along with propaganda, to snatch power from the jaws of weakness.Pomerantsev was born in the Soviet Union, though barely. His parents emigrated to England in 1978, when he was ten months old. He speaks Russian. He thought he was Russian. After college he went to Russia. And he spent nine years there discovering that, on points of honor and decency, he’s an English gentleman after all.
Pomerantsev becomes a reality TV producer in a place where, as his title and subtitle indicate, there isn’t any reality. Or, at least, everyone wishes there weren’t.
Pomerantsev, however, is all too believable in the bad news he brings us from Russia. His reporter’s straightforward and unlimited curiosity, his willingness to plow and harrow the widest fields for facts, and his exacting descriptive details give him credibility. Plus, what he tells us is so incredible. As reporters say, “You just can’t make these things up.”
In Russia, “corrupt” is not an adjective. Corrupt is a noun, a proper noun, the word for the name and nature of the place.
Corrupt crony capitalism is familiar everywhere. But in Russia the corruption is so pervasive that even the cronies have to pay bribes, not just to the higher-ups but to the lower-downs.
Pomerantsev visits a TV studio owned by Kremlin-connected moguls. It’s in a shabby warehouse on the wrong side of town. There’s no sign or address on the metal door. Inside is a dirty little room with a drunk guard.
Pomerantsev goes down a dark corridor and up two flights of dingy stairs to another unmarked metal door. Behind that is a modern, well-lit, busy Western-style production facility. But there’s an inconspicuous door here as well, with a secret code pad. And behind thatis a more modern, better-lit, even busier production facility with an even less conspicuous door with an even more secret code leading to the real offices of the moguls, where the real business accounts are kept.
All this is to foil the tax police. Who come anyway. One of the moguls tells Pomerantsev that “the tax police were much happier taking bribes than going to the trouble of stealing money that had been paid in the orthodox fashion.”
Pomerantsev tells the story of Yana Yakovleva, a businesswoman who imported chemicals to make cleaning supplies. She spent seven months in prison because chemicals to make cleaning supplies were suddenly declared “an illegal narcotic substance.”
Usually this kind of abrupt, arbitrary arrest has to do with competitors bribing legislators in order to abscond with someone’s business. Usually the solution is to bribe judges.
But Yana had gotten tangled in the Kremlin machinations of political figures so crooked that they can’t get a bribe straight.
Viktor Cherkesov, head of the FDCS, the Federal Drug Control Service, was attempting to take over Russia’s chemical industry as part of his power struggle with Nikolai Patrushev, head of the FSB, the Federal Security Service, successor agency to the KGB. Vladimir Putin encouraged Cherkesov. Vladimir Putin encouraged Patrushev.
The FDSC uncovered FSB corruption in Chinese customs duty rake-offs. The FSB uncovered FDSC corruption in chemical company seizures. The FDCS arrested FSB generals on the Chinese border. The FSB arrested FDCS generals at Moscow’s Domodedovo airport.
And Yana doesn’t get out of jail until Cherkesov and Patrushev have destroyed each other and Putin is rid of both potential rivals.
It’s an interesting moral atmosphere in Russia.
In Russia, small town girls go to the big city and get ruined, but that’s what they’re trying to do. Really trying. They go to school for it.
If a girl with potential studies hard, “she earns the basic Moscow mistress rate: the apartment, $4,000 a month, a car, and a weeklong holiday in Turkey or Egypt twice a year.”
In return, she’s available to her “sponsor,” as he’s called, any time, any day.
Nice girls, of course, don’t do this. They go to the big city and become supermodels. Like Ruslana did. She was an ethnic Russian from Almaty, Kazakhstan. Ruslana was “discovered” at sixteen, world-famous at nineteen, and two days before her twenty-first birthday she jumped off a roof in New York. Pomerantsev gives us (although, in a way, he almost doesn’t need to) the heart-breaking particulars in between.
Pomerantsev himself is not immune to the corruption.
Pomerantsev gets a Russian drivers license. “I would never pass . . . if I didn’t pay the bribe (this month $500, but about to jump to $1,000 if I didn’t hurry).” He scores eighteen out of twenty on his written test, enough to pass. Then realizes all the other license applicants had also scored eighteen out of twenty. “Everyone in the room had paid for the right result.”
He takes his road test in an instructor’s car with two sets of controls. Pomerantsev does not, in fact, know how to drive. “I couldn’t get the pedals right and kept on stalling. The traffic cop smiled . . . ‘Put your hands on the wheel and pretend to drive.’”
The corruption doesn’t poison the state, it feeds it. Pomerantsev recounts the ordeals of dodging the draft in Russia. And it must be dodged.
There’s the “most desperate and most expensive remedy: the bribe to the military command.” Or a week every year pretending to be sick or injured. “Annually the hospitals fill up with pimply youths simulating illness.” But you have to pick the right disease or disability “because the ailments that can get you off change all the time.” Alternatively, you can stay in college until you’re too old for the draft. “Russian males take on endless master’s degree programs until their late twenties.” Not a good student? There are schools for that as well as for mistresses. “Dozens of new universities that have opened . . . to service the need to avoid the draft.” You can even spend a month in a psychiatric clinic. “But you will also have a certificate of mental illness hanging over you for the rest of your career.”
Thus a state that is calculated to make its citizens crazy. And Pomerantsev is clear about the calculation.
He presents the case of Vladislav Surkov. He has been deputy head of the presidential administration, deputy prime minister, and assistant to the president on foreign affairs. He is known as the “Kremlin demiurge” and the “political technologist of all of Rus.”
Surkov dresses in jeans and a leather jacket. “He is an aesthete who pens essays on modern art, an aficionado of gangsta rap who keeps a photo of Tupac on his desk next to that of the president.”
Surkov also seems to be the author of an anonymous novel Almost Zero. He as much as admits he is in a preface he wrote for the book, calling the work “a satire of contemporary Russia whose hero, Egor, is a corrupt PR man.”
Pomerantsev says, “‘Everything is PR’ has become the favorite phrase of the new Russia.”
Among that everything is PR used to promote cults. “As the Soviet Union sank,” says Pomerantsev, “so sects had bubbled to the surface. Indeed it was the Kremlin that had given them an impetus.”
This was in 1989, when a hypnotherapist named Anatoly Kashpirovsky, “with 1970s porn star looks,” appeared on a Kremlin-controlled TV network and intoned to viewers, “Close your eyes. You can cure cancer or alcoholism or any ailment with the power of thought.” Millions attempted to do so.
A former postman named Vissarion is convinced he’s Christ and has a colony called “The Abode of Dawn City” on the Mongolian border inhabited by “minor bohemians, actors, rock musicians, painters.”
“The Golden Way” guru Boris Zolotov conducts “experiments in which his followers would penetrate to the new level of conscious: sweating orgies where the old, ugly, young, and beautiful rub and kiss and caress each other in a communal bliss.”
The Night Wolves are a motorcycle gang with five thousand members devoted to religious patriotism who ride “through Moscow on Harleys with icons of Mary the Mother of God and Stalin.”
Poor Ruslana the supermodel was involved in something called “The Rose of the World” run by “life trainers” who lock crowds of people who don’t have a life in a room and train them to pronounce “inner monologues.”
Insanity pervades the culture.
Well, now that I think about it . . .
Anyway, this brings us to the frightening question posed by Pomerantsev’s book, a question he only implicitly asks.
What do we do about a gigantic, depraved, immoral, lunatic country armed with nuclear warheads?
We may not have to do much is the fortunate answer.
The Russians are crazy but they aren’t stupid. This is a country where chess is a spectator sport. The Russians aren’t going to make a Queen Pawn opening with their nukes that traps the queen’s bishop behind the knight. Or, to put it in American terms, they aren’t going to throw a Hail Mary on fourth-and-impossible from their own five-yard line.
Russia is a demographic disaster. Nicholas Eberstadt, who holds the Henry Wendt Chair in Political Economy at the American Enterprise Institute, has been studying Russia for decades. His research indicates that that the birth rate per Russian woman is twenty percent below replacement level.
In the first ten years after the collapse of the USSR, Russian population fell by about six and a half million. It is rebounding slightly now but only because of high birth rates in Muslim ethnic regions like Chechnya and Dagestan and immigration from former Soviet republics in Central Asia. These are not places Russia wants its Russians to come from.
Russia’s mortality rate is horrific. According 2012 World Health Organization statistics, a fifteen-year-old Russian male has a life expectancy that’s three years less than a fifteen-year-old Haitian boy’s.
The life expectancy of a fifteen-year old Russian female is sixty-one, three years less than in Cambodia.
Russians die from cardiovascular disease and from accidents, murder, and suicide. They smoke, they drink, they despair.
Russia’s great wealth is based on extraction of oil and gas. Even so, the value of Russia’s exports in 2013 barely exceeded Belgium’s. And energy prices are falling.
The likelihood of the economy being transformed from extractive to knowledge-based is slim in a country rife with slogans like “How can you believe in anything?” and “Everything is PR.”
“Long-term economic progress,” says Eberstadt, “depends on improving productivity through new knowledge . . . Patent awards and application provide a crude but telling picture . . . Consider applications under the Patent Cooperation Treaty . . . Russia comes in No. 21—after Austria—racking up less that 0.6 percent of the world’s total. The population of Russia is more than fifteen times that of Austria. Russia’s ‘yield’ of patents per university graduate is vastly lower than Austria’s—thirty-five times lower. By this particular metric Russia is only fractionally better placed than Gabon.”
So what we need to do is this. Start with a little bit of George Kennan’s Containment Policy. Leaven that with a large dose of Reagan Doctrine, arming the dickens out of Ukraine, Georgia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and any other sane polity feeling pressure from the Evil Post-Empire. Mix these with the black humor of Peter Pomerantsev’s Nothing Is True and Everything Is Possible. And sit back and watch the Putin regime rot.
Do you think there are no parallel examples in America. Bribing Judges happens here every day. Tax police are the IRS. etc. Do you not wonder how some fucking Asians get drivers licences in America?
"how some fucking Asians get drivers licences in America?"
Actually, I think that's mostly incompetence - never underestimate the power or pervasiveness of it.
I personally taught all of our children how to drive because I didn't want the Middle Easterners and Orientals (who dominate driver instruction in our metro area) to get them started on the wrong foot.
However, I did sign them up for the mandatory state-sanctioned "Driver's Ed" with a Korean guy in our area who for a VERY reasonable fee lower than most other Driving Schools. Got all my kids through the paper-punching process in record time and with minimal hassle, and all passed their written test at the DMV first time. They're all pretty good drivers, too - sometimes I follow when they don't know it. .
Amerikan Patriot --
This article is drivel. Too inane to merit a response. But one point is worth contradicting:
"Leaven that with a large dose of Reagan Doctrine, arming the dickens out of Ukraine, Georgia, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and any other sane polity feeling pressure from the Evil Post-Empire."
Reagan was anti-Soviet, but pro-Russian. He loved and admired Solzhenitsyn and grasped his distinction between the USSR and Russia. He walked arm-in-arm with Gorbachev through Red Square and declared the Cold War over (even though the USSR still existed and he could not have foreseen its collapse.) He accepted Moscow's contention that the unilateral deployment of his Strategic Defense Initiative would be destabilizing, and so offered to share it with the USSR -- yes, the USSR, not the RF, which did not yet exist. On a private visit to Leningrad (as it then still was) after he left office, he endorsed the all-union structure of the USSR even as he celebrated the decline of Marxism-Leninism, which he always understood was the essence of the problem -- not Russia per se, not even the USSR as a state construction. (His successor, George H. W. Bush, did much the same in a speech he gave in Kiev - much to the indignation of our neo-cons who labelled it his "Chicken Kiev" speech.
Because Reagan re-armed America and because we prevailed in our ideological war with Marxism-Leninism, neo-conservatives frequently manipulate Reagan's rich and complex legacy to suggest he would support their war-mongering and incessant efforts to subvert sovereign nations internally. Nothing coud be farther from the truth. He wanted to put an end to the Cold War so that America could go back to being America (and ditch the warfare-welfare state), not so as to embark on a course of imperial expansion and become the new Soviet Union (which, sadly, is what we have been about since our rape of Serbia.)
Ventnor,
This is one of those posts for which I wish I had multiple ID's so that I might up-arrow as many times.
Good history, great insight.
Mi Naem,
THanks a lot. Glad you liked it.
Regan was endless and easy source of inspiration for line of stand-up comedians and cartoonists.
Still remeber and chuckle on 80's VH1 with Phil Collins song and British pupets of Nanacy and "Towering Figure" in the bed.
Entire recorded history shows that satirists were always right. So what is it that I am not getting ?
Ventnor, the anti-Mark Antony.
"The good that men do lives after them. The evil is oft interrèd with their bones."
Reagan was the president who remarked this into an open mike in the Oval Office:
Everything Reagan did was without wit.
I remember that. It was funny.
And if you think Reagan had no wit, then I think yours is a bit dim.
So you don't think any of the famous Reagan humor was unintended?
And apparently with the ZH powerhouse, Mi Naem.
Ron Reagan is the honest son. Michael is the radio talk show host. Admit it, for the president of the US to talk about bombing Russia into an open mic in the Oval Office is a very Alzheimery thing to do.
He did have enough wit not to press the colored buttons in the brief case the colonel guy who followed him around always carried.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jan/17/ronald-reagan-alzheimers-pr...
Seems to have a jewish theme in it. I think I'll go to 'Dances With Bears' for a chaser. http://johnhelmer.net/
P. J. O'Rourke???
I remember reading this guy's stuff in high school - in the National Lampoon. And, that is what this excrement you posted reads like.
You might as well try to get insightful, informed political analysis from Gene Weingarten.
P. J. O'Rourke
The CIA pays him with single malt liquor.
WRG to life expectancy statistics in Russia, the devil is in the details.
Note on the linked graph below the precipitous drop in Russian life expectancy, especially among men, during the 90's when the West's "NWO" brought "freedom and democracy" to Russia along with its usual parade of carpetbagging Zionist bankster and Oligarch pals who descended on Russia like vultures trying to pick Russia's carcass clean without regard to the consequences of their vile actions on the Russian people. Note the rapid increase in Russian life expectancy since the early 2000's when Putin took over and started throwing out the bastard Zionist banksters and Oligarchs.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d4/Russian_male_and_female_life_expectancy.PNG/450px-Russian_male_and_female_life_expectancy.PNG
IMO this one graph of Russian life expectancy data fundamentally explains Putin's popularity in Russia better than any other data, including rising incomes.
For the data minded. Imagine the progress 50 years hence. There are no winners in a nuclear war.
The 1962 Soviet Nuclear EMP Tests over Kazakhstan.
http://www.futurescience.com/emp/test184.html
"White House press secretary Josh Earnest said today that the administration hadn’t finished reviewing the language and isn’t ready to take a position on the legislation. He said the administration wants to ensure that the U.S. and its European allies are working together"...
Did President Obama in that spirit of cooperation tell our European friends they might wish to keep a constant vigil over their foreign embassies and ensure that they have their geiger counters at the ready to detect anything unusual coming from over their respective borders and international airports to the embassy with the "blue and white flag"???... One would certainly hope so after the President made this announcement within a few days of all their embassies closing!
After all the U.S. has had lots of experience on the subject...
Yes Earnest I'd agree very "delicate" work indeed! Penny for your thoughts!!!
Make a list. Pick a date. Killl them all.
Can't the Americans just fuck off out of Europe. If you want to continue your little cold war against Russia leave us out of it. Ukraine is a basketcase and had been part of Russia for 100s of years. We don't want it to be part of the EU as we have enough chep labour already.
man OF Wool. That's where the newly arrived immigrants come in. Serve country and by all means, no critical thinking or free thinking.
http://vineyardsaker.blogspot.com/2014/12/12122014-ukrainian-crisis-news...
US tanks, APC's and Humvees roll through Latvia. "2 days ago"
One thing we know, the guns were already underway before the vote.
This will be a long winter in Europe.
The forecasts point to a cooling in the Gulf Stream, perhaps the winter extends for 20 or 30 days beyond the normal, and that mud will come in thawing will be abnormal. Floods included in the package.
Ukraine is a beautiful country with great plains where the artillery makes a sublime damage.
There arboreal niches where small speakers can move as if they were the Pacific Islands.
I do not know what US equipment can make against the Russian experience in fighting these conditions.
Another important thing, they are fighting for their relatives and their land is insane thing to make war against those who have because fighting.
If this delivery of weapons were in the Middle East, several US transport planes have already been slaughtered, can believe that.
The patience of Ukraine's eastern Russian only justified if they are willing to get their hands on more equipment, this time NATO.
hehe.
Humvees?
Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!
Most of the equipment that runs on gasoline only serves to gather snow when you are -30º C (Celsius)!
European Diesel (S-50) is also crap in these conditions!
Does not enter in my head how to start a war in a country where there is no fuel to heat the butt of the soldiers.
Send aircraft to take lethal weapons in a European country where geographical features require heavy equipment is bad joke.
hehe.
Update on the Swedish-Russian near plane collision which ws discussed earlier here.
IT NEVER HAPPENED !!!
Original from SVT Swedish Public TV http://www.svt.se/nyheter/varlden/ryssland-avfardar-flygincident
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SAS: no danger of collision with the Russian plan1 hour ago
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Photo: TTRussian military confirms that the country had electronic surveillance plane over the Baltic Sea last Friday. The plane had a transponder system switched off and is reported to have been close to a passenger airplane that flew for SAS. But a Russian flight commander dismisses that electronic surveillance plane constituted a danger to passenger aircraft. Though the SAS report that there was no danger.
– There were no preconditions for a plane crash because of a flight by a Russian fighter jets in international airspace over the Baltic Sea on Friday, 12 december, says the Russian major general Igor Konashenkov, according to the news agency Itar-Tass.
He claims that the Russian fighter found themselves at a distance more than 70 km from the route of the passenger plane which was en route from Copenhagen, Denmark.
SAS said that the plan was just over half a mile from each other.
I can confirm that there was a Cimber-flight, which the authorities were concerned about. But the plan did not come within 3,000 feet away from each other, said SAS Danish press officer Trine Kromann-Mikkelsen to Ekstrabladet. Cimber is an airline flying for SAS.
Trine Kromann-Mikkelsen declared that no security levels were undercut, and therefore it has not been any report of the incident.
These data are confirmed by Knut Morten Johansen, Norwegian Chief Information Officer at SAS.
– In this particular case, it is not a security boundary that has been broken. It is therefore important from the SAS page to say that nobody has been in jeopardy, for both the pilot and ground control has had control of the situation, "he told TT.
Switched off the transponderThe aircraft, with capacity for 50 passengers, took off from Copenhagen Airport, at 11.12. Just a few minutes later, air traffic control, according to the daily news, the plane orders to change a planned upgrade because an unidentified aircraft were on a collision course with the planet. A few minutes later passed Cimber-plane behind the Russian electronic surveillance plane that flight with the signalling system facility, the so called transponder.
Defense minister Peter Hultqvist (S) directed yesterday sharply critical of the Russian action.
"It is remarkable and very serious, there is a risk that the accidents that ultimately can lead to death," said the Defense Minister.
"In accordance with the rules"Russian major general Igor Konashenkov, however, rejects the criticism.
– The flight was conducted in accordance with international aviation rules, it violated no boundaries and kept a safe distance to routes for civilian air traffic, said Konashenkov.
He points out that even a Nato plane flew into the area with the transponder system switched off. Konashenkov said that air traffic management will have the opportunity to follow the plan even though they fly with switched off the transponder.
Infrastructure minister, Anna Johansson (S), with transport matters on his desk, do not see grounds for action due to military aircraft flying without transponders.
– I have so far not received signals that there is a widespread problem, but we should wait for the investigations of the events in the autumn and draw conclusions from them, "she said.
RelatedPublished:december 14, 2014-11: 54
Updated:december 14, 2014-15: 10
The delusional Swedes are still looking for that sub too. What is up with those people?
Thanks for that. I was just about to post this:
http://rt.com/news/214259-russian-aircraft-incident-deception/
Mr. Putin already has Russian troops and materials in Eastern Ekraine, this is pour a galerie -- window dressing for the masses. Mr. Putin will continue to do what he wants in the Ekraine and provoke other acts of embrassment towards Obama, Cameron, and the cack-handed Brussel apparatchiks. And as for Sweden, Mr. Putin knows Sweden will implode from it liberal and cowardly policies toward Islam. No invasion required.
The nuclear ff accident, war is comming.
http://fortruss.blogspot.mx/2014/12/is-ukraine-preparing-for-nuclear-fal...
This is the relevant paragraph
The sequel is coming. there will be another provocation. And what will the next provocation be? We got some information. Moreover, first the information came from former Novorossia, from Kharkov. And this information I was not very inclined to trust, because Ukraine is embraced in a mass psychosis, and it's saturated with rumors. But then came an indirect confirmation of this information from the West. I really hope that it's a fake. I really hope that this is hostile propaganda. But you know, better be safe than sorry. The point is: Ukrainian army goes on the offensive. Yes, it doesn't have the strength for the offensive and the level of demoralization is monstrous. Therefore it pretends to attack. Valiant soldiers carry out a massive artillery preparation. And all the Western media, not to mention Ukrainian, shout in unison about the liberation of another 300 square meters of Donetsk airport, for example. After that a tactical nuclear warhead explodes in the zone of the offensive of the Ukrainian army. Then everyone shouts that the monstrous Russia used nuclear weapons. Conversations about changing our military doctrine are moving in that direction. The liberal intelligentsia is already hysterically screaming about it. This is that which will be extremely difficult to clean up from. That which our military is not capable of, in principle, even theoretically. And that which is quite normal for the Americans, because both times of the use of nuclear weapons in the history of mankind it was them. To use it the third time is not so difficult.
This is what will more likely happen:
A nuclear device goes off between the Russia-Donbas lines and the Ukrainian lines. The Russians know that it was not theirs.
Therefore, according to the Tit for Tat Rules of Engagement a similar sized nuke goes off near the Ukrainian canteen and PX, the Ukrainian Army does the Cabbage Walk quick step back to Kiev. and we all anxiously await Obama's response.
a nuclear war before christmas?
http://fortruss.blogspot.mx/2014/12/is-ukraine-preparing-for-nuclear-fal...
Iiii'm dreaming of a Glooooowing Christmas....
Well, the good news is that if theUS/Russia cold-but-warming war gets hot, Oil and Nat Gas will go through the roof.
Maybe the The Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014 should have been called The Save The Bakken's Ass And Help Fund ISIS Bill of 2014.
"The Turkish police raided media facilities linked to a government opponent this Sunday (14) and arrested 24 people, inlcuding executives and former police chiefs, in operations against the president Tayyip Erdogan said to be plotting a terrorist network to bring him down.
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Understand the action of the President of Turkey against the press
Invasions the newspaper "Zaman" and television "Samanyolu" marked an escalation of Erdogan's battle against former ally Gülen, a Muslim cleric who lives in the United States, who is in open conflict since an investigation for corruption on the circle next to Erdogan appeared a year ago. "
source:
http://g1.globo.com/mundo/noticia/2014/12/policia-turca-invade-jornal-e-...
I wonder.
Who paid these guys arrested?
Erdogan knows, Putin knows, I know and everyone here in ZH know ...
The American taxpayer ...
hehe.
More than a few posters here said that within days after Erdogan does the gas deal with Putin that Erdogan would be taken out or smeared or something else.
Pure European racism Turks not being accepted in the European Union, only to NATO.
The change will come forth ...
hehe.
Turks in Germany were / are considered second-class citizens as Mexicans in the US.
Speaking the truth will hurt some here ...
hehe.
One of the many problems with the banking mafia importing mostly low-skilled cheap labor is it creates an unofficial economic apartheid as a natural consequence. That economic apartheid is nothing to do with racism** - or rather the economic apartheid would still exist even if there were no racism.
(**except perhaps an element of racism in the banking mafia's lack of interest in the consequences of their actions)
Hey, LOOK! A picture of two white boxers!
Hmm, must be a movie or sumptin'. Can't be real. hehehehehe
War always starts somewhere far away, but this time it can be continued on USA soil
PUT THE CENTRAL BANKERS TO THE AXE !!! AND ALL WARS WILL STOP !
"both houses passed The Ukraine Freedom Support Act of 2014, which authorizes "providing lethal assistance to Ukraine’s military" as well as sweeping sanctions on Russia’s energy sector..."
And what prevents Russia and China from doing the same re USA?
Won't happen you say?
Central banks want it. What about that?
You explodes Dimona in Israel, explodes the islands of St. Helena and Ascension in the Atlantic Ocean, you explode Guam in the Pacific as well as other bases and nor need IIIWW!
If we attempt something after that Hawaii will pro bag as in IIWW.
All logistics supply US / NATO is on his knees.
Do not be frightened by what I wrote above, is the most light scenario.
hehe.
There is one thing that often puzzles me in Tyler's articles.
It is the mantra of "Russian economy which is already impaired due to the plunging ruble".
The question is - why is devaluation of currency - the act that countless countries have used to boost their domestic production and export potential over and over, be it Italy, Greece, Spain, Portugal, Finland, Sweden, Thailand, Japan or China, often to dismay and sabre rattling from USA - somehow detrimental, bad and dangerous for Russia.
Do we have double standards terms in monetary issues too nowadays? Or am I missing something?
WTF is that uber-douchebag (a younger) Leon Panetta doin' in the middle?
Apart, that is, from askin' who's got the biggest wad of c-notes to fix the fight...
White people killing white people.
That's all they want for x-mas.
they just missed the 100 year anniversary as well
Unanimous - wow.
A lessen in history regarding the Russian and Ottoman Empires.
The Russian's and Turks were always at each others throats throughout the 18th and 19th centuries. They had fought at least a dozen or more wars. At that tyme there was only the Ottoman and Russia concerning the vast geographic region. Most of the wars were about the shipping lanes in the Bosphorus/ Dardanelle Straits via the Black Sea (Crimea / Ukraine). The Marmara and Aegean Seas.
Here's where the rubber hits the road on the cusp of the 20th century, preceeding quickly via WWI and WWII almost back to back in tyme-- approx. only twenty years separated the two great wars.
My point being that in the summer of 1940 the Soviet Union (Russia) annexed Estonia, Latvia, and Lithuania... and would have annexed Eastern Turkey (Kurdish Region) in 1915 with the help of the Armenians if the Turkish army hadn't squashed the uprising with the Kurdish mercenary armies fighting alongside the Turks (Note: The Ottoman joined the Axis during WWI because of economics, which led to the end of their 500 +/+ year old Empire.
So as aforementioned above,... Russia (Soviet Union) will never, ever let the Ukraine go for its vital geography. The gas and energy means little to them when they become landlocked. This deviate plot by the USSA's cacocracy[?] to devise and poke a very thin, paper-thin wedge into a wide-eyed fully-nurished Bear in his ancestrial territory is foolisly unwise-- bordering on insanity. Nerer, ever back a Bear into a corner!!!
Hypocracy of the EU and USSA regarding the goings on in Turkey, Lebanon, Syria, Iraq regarding 'IS' is but a divide and conquer strategy using the Kurd's as pawns. Let's look at why this is so, and nothing has changed... nothing? Turkey had fought hard for the Mosul Province in the 1920's under the Lausanne Conference, but the English and American's insisted it was Iraq's. Their argument was that Mosul was approx. 60 miles to Baghdad and that the Kurd's could/ would try for an independent state being so closely aligned along Syrian, Turkish, Iraqi, and Iranian nothern borders. Mosul was now in/ under the protectorate the Iraqi Goverment, and BP, Shell, and Standard Oil filled the vacuum immediately.
Why does this matter? Neither back then or at anytime in the future would the allied powers ever consider a creation for an independent Kurdistan. This you can take to the bank... but it is a tender-box of kindling that can be ignited with a flicker of anti-laicist entropy.
Summary: The Soviet Union will go to war over Ukraine and the Kurd's will never be an independent country other than a buffer zone, period!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balkans#mediaviewer/File:Balkans_Animation_1800-2008.gif
jmo
soviet union?
Fortunately the dumbest guy commenting on ZeroHedge can talk about history and economics for more than two hours with a room full of students, at least 45 that will not leave or to piss.
Also fortunately, serious commentators are able to identify Trolls.
hehe.
This whole shit-show is a farking joke and just plain ol stupid beyond stupidity. The Russian, American, and European folks are all going broke as the rothchillian masters laugh and suck the life from ALL COUNTRIES. All the while, pitting them against each other to do that. Just try and think about what controls so many puppet-evil-things, and the militaries as they do. The babylonian empire of dust has set up Russia to be the next winner in what ever world might be left after say, 200-500 nukes are tossed around the planet. Remember, the PLAN is to get rid of 99% of the human population using these pawns on the checker board to do it for them, the evil rothschillian devils.
Some, like the asshats here who have their numbers known, and will be among the first to be dispatched, may never be saved from themselves. Owners, please claim your titles and noble awards for all the ridicules and unintelligent stupidity in the comments here. War mongers and evil minions of the warmongers all suck the blue out of jeans for a living. It is obvious who is patriotic, and who is a real American. It is also blatant, as to who is not. Big talks from some city slicker, or someone who we would love to invite out to meet a few of the forest brothers.
Selah. No time to waste on ego's games.
In the meanwhile, the advance towards some sort of Armageddon marches on and the rockofeller/rottenchild crime syndicate/empire is as busy as Santa's Elves are. Up to no good, compared to those little rascals making toys for tots. What evil lurks in the shadows is known. Will it be a nuklear detonation in the eastern or western part of the USA? Grid and Internet take down? Will cheney use one, or two of his stolen nukes? Is he still the unelected president of the COG? One can only wonder if these old smelly-arse dinosaurs of the cold war era are going to die soon, or will they kill off the planet before they do that?
One of the possible event horizons seen on the list includes the EMP usage by the zionist/isis/al-CIA-duh evil bankster stooges to cause a power grid take-down that will be blamed on Russia, or who knows what other victim country might be blamed. Same old shit show. The hubris of getting away with shooting down the jet in Ukraine has emboldened these horrid war-criminals to try this next bankster sponsored false flag event to steer away from the purposely planned to crash economy, world-wide.
Who profits from war and destruction? What idiot on the planet would support moar woar KINOWING they and their families will also be flash banged by a quick blinding light in close proximity? And how about those neutron bomb thingy's? And, if you wanted to get rid of the entire American population, how would you do that?
Hummm....things no one wants to ponder, except for the bad actors here.
The very idea of blaming a hack attack on the solar flare storms is really out there, but not outside of the realm of evil possibilities. The Carrington Event was one such occurrence and what if, what if they were to exasperate that with “other methods” to antagonize the great ball of light so much so that it fried the entire planet for a month, or two? Even those undergrounders will melt as the earth temperature turns to 451 degrees and the very dirt they stand on becomes molten down to a mile deep in the earth? Please, say it can never happen.
The stupid doing what the stupid do continues with no real consideration for the unplanned for results. These crazy babylonians, the same ones that invented zionism/nazism, communism, capitalism, and adfinatum ism's, are stead fast at it to complete their evil plans of world domination using the money-god to do that. Their agenda is being hurried by the fast awakening world who all see these evil banksters and money-god mercenaries as the WORLD”S common foe. Right now, ALL the people SEE who the demons are and KNOW what to do. Just stay home, and spend no money. Fark it!
Everybody knows who starts wars for profits and the evil agenda 21 population reduction plans. The stupidity of it all is, so many that see the blind horse peeing on the front lawn continue to support this beast of burden. ANYONE that is in league with these cretins of hell, will fall by the same sword they use on others to support this evil anti-Christ agenda of POPULATION ELIMINATION(WORLD-WIDE) AND WORLD DOMINATION of the last remaining few. The babylonians are using the same old ancient provocative propagandistic phony-baloney hack-n-saw woar methods of killing and destroying so they can first profit from the war making materials, and then come in and buy the remnants for pennies on the fast dying dollar using a currency du jour in the aftermath. That is, if there is anything left after this cronybus bill gave them moar unlimited spending of tax payer dollars on war materials.
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2014/12/12/buried-within-omnibus-bill-long-term-blank-check-war-spending
(prolly some ZH'ers in the comment section)
All as planned, of course. What is shaping up to go down, is the globalist banksters setting up Russia and China(money engine) to be the victors in the coming planned world war to end all wars, or to attain that final solution they have worked for centuries to manifest. Too bad, too sad everyone will get burned after they are ALL used up and discarded like the rest of humanity. No one will believe this next false flag borsht when they pull it off, no matter how much govt sponsored propaganda the lying dying lame stream media whores rattle and rant about. NO ONE LISTENS TO WESTERN MEDIA ANY MOAR! Here is a great place to hear some truthful ranting.:
http://rt.com/shows/crosstalk/
The rothschilds that created isreal are using the israelians to be the sparks that start the world forest fire, and the silly slaves do not even know that they will be the first targeted nation to get hit hard by those they pick the fights with, or blame their next False Flag Event on. Can't have no loose ends to talk later on, ya know. It is the proverbial pied piper leading the lemmings off the cliff of stupidity. Those that deceive to make woar, will ultimately be deceived. Those that hold money up as god, will fall like the money-god will. Telling them isrealians now what the future could hold, would be like talking to a wall. Sometimes, stupidity is as thick, as a brick. Evil only knows itself at the moment of death, and then it is too late to change that hell bound path. Of course, there is always repentance and forgiveness to consider as a turn around from total annihilation, world-wide.
Everybody knows the evil rothchillian puppetry in zioland IS the problem. The puppets and slaves have not been taught any better, so give up some minute compassion for the blind idiots doing the evil beasts bidding. Woe unto you, oh isreal! What would the rothchild slave-masters do without their mad-dog-attack-puppets?
And how about that possible coming EMP, nuke, or what ever it could be to take the attention off the planned crash and, POSSIBLE world woar?
What to do?
Maybe if the Awakened American people got off their duffs and went down to camp out on the doorsteps of every single war mongering puppet congress critter, and every single war mongering puppet senate toad until they see the light, and requests of the Awakened people to end all wars and bring ALL our troops home for Christmas, situations could change??
What if everybody went to war against the media institutions, liars, and puppet propaganda machines, instead of with each other? Gee, if you want to warmonger so badly, go and war with the liars and deceivers that mislead you and use so many for their, not yours, evil gains. Stop being slaves to the system, and go take it back from those who want to kill you using dis/mis-information, lies, and deceptions to do it with.
Rothchild end game: globalist world domination using an electronic money-god system to track, trace, and heavily tax everything.
WAKE THE FLOCK UP!!!!
If you have never heard the rants of this cat, Mark Passio, you should tune in on Sat PM's to have a listen see. The radio show of this past week was really heartening. Here is a reformed satanist telling it like it is, and taking no guff from the peanut gallery.
12-12-1
Hr 1: http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Passio/2014/12/Passio_1_121314_210000.mp
Hr 2: http://216.240.133.177/archives32/Passio/2014/12/Passio_2_121314_220000.mp3
http://republicbroadcasting.org/archives/index.php?cmd=archives.year&ProgramID=134&year=14&backURL=index.php%3Fcmd%3Darchives
You can also tune in on Sunday nights(tonight) and listen to the Dave Hodges show that is guaranteed to sit you upright in your chair. Sometimes, he has some awesome guests. Last week it was Mr Jim Marrs. Not sure who is on tonight yet.
http://republicbroadcasting.org/archives/index.php?cmd=archives.month&ProgramID=61&year=14&month=12&backURL=index.php%253Fcmd%253Darchives.getyear%2526ProgramID%253D61%26year%3D14%26backURL%3Dindex.php%253Fcmd%253Darchives
Go here to get all the archives, well worthy of listening to.:
http://republicbroadcasting.org/archives/
Pleasant Light and Love to ALL! Even you bad folks who seem determined to represent all that is wrong with the world. Ignorant chaotic deliriousness and deviation from stone engraved truth, is just stupid. Show us all what you know and by your actions, what you are.
Extra Credit:
https://www.intellihub.com/like-clockwork-pension-plans-looted-nationwide-congress-okays-institutional-theft-funds/
Oh ho ho, fellow dude guys.
As if there will be any imminent fighting between the NATOSKIs and the Russkis. The West is already cowering from the vanguard of General Winter and the blare of his bugles.
And the word is that General January is not but a two week march from Brussels.
Who but the Moor of Nulandia would try to press an advantage here?
WITH ALL THOSE GAS TRANSIT PUMPS SITTING ABOVE GROUND LIKE SITTING DUCKS.