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Sydney Seige Is Over After Explosions, Shots Fired; 11 Hostages Freed; Gunman & 1 Hostage Dead - Live Feed

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It's over:

  • BREAKING NEWS: HOSTAGE-TAKER KILLED BY GUNFIRE. SKY NEWS

Shots fired and police are storming the coffee shop:

  • POLICE STORMING SYDNEY SIEGE CAFE, ABC REPORTS
  • EXPLOSIONS, SHOOTING AT SYDNEY SIEGE SITE: ABC TELEVISION FOOTAGE
  • TWO PEOPLE KILLED AS POLICE END SIEGE OF SYDNEY CAFE, CNN SAYS
  • GUNMAN HAS NOT BEEN SEEN LEAVING SYDNEY SIEGE BUILDING: SKY
  • GUNMAN SAID TO HAVE SHOT ONE OF SYDNEY HOSTAGES, CNBC SAYS
  • SYDNEY SIEGE IS OVER, AUSTRALIAN POLICE SAY VIA TWITTER

As Bloomberg reports,

Police stormed a cafe in Sydney where a gunman had been holding people hostage, Australian Broadcasting Corp. reports.

 

Television footage showed police entering building, with gunfire flashes and noise

 

Firing occurred shortly after some of the hostages exited the building

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Mon, 12/15/2014 - 14:29 | 5554519 Oldrepublic
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good point, those guys should avoid foreign travel

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 11:40 | 5553704 NoWayJose
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Police have very little choice once negotiations fail -- and with extremists they always do -- so storming the building is about the only option left.

The other losers in this are Muslim people all over the world - as this will intensify the (undeserved) backlash against them. The Muslims that are living in countries that harbor these extremists are the ones that have to rise up against their leaders and start rounding these guys up instead of granting them sanctuary.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 11:46 | 5553742 SethDealer
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fuk muslims. their trashy animal stereotype is well deserved

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:59 | 5554120 Dame Ednas Possum
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I bet they can spell better than you.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:08 | 5553852 Monty Burns
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Not all Muslims are terrorists.  But it sure as hell seems that all terrorists are Muslims. They have no place in the West.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:19 | 5553901 where_is the_nuke
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Not all Muslims are terrorists.+100
 But it sure as hell seems that all terrorists are Muslims. -1000(You forgot ZATO)
They have no place in the West.+10000

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 13:36 | 5554293 savagegoose
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i think the IRA where catholics

 

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 14:09 | 5554430 Jeremy Roenick
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When was the last time the IRA attacked something???   20 years ago?

 

Face it, Islam currently has a monopoly on global terror. 

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 15:17 | 5554739 Monty Burns
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2,000 IRA and 1.2 billion Catholics.  You're not very good at this math thing are you?

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 13:08 | 5554154 Buckaroo Banzai
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All terrorists are observant Muslims. The Koran speaks plainly about infidels: they are subhumans who must be killed, converted, or subjugated.

It's lazy, unobservant Muslims that we perceive to be the "good" Muslims.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 13:52 | 5554336 falak pema
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No different from the observant christians of Pope and Templar soldier monk meme, who did not commit homicide but "malicide" to cleanse Holy land, as clearly defined by Bernard of Clairvaux; the man who preached and lost the second crusade (as all subsequent ones).

Charlemagne, as Sven I of Denmark, both ordained in their conquests that the only choice for the Norse or Saxon pagans was : Baptism or death.

All christians of that age were like the Moslem fundamentalists. And it continued in the post renaissance religious wars. 

The only constant fact is that all Abrahamic religions, as preached by a papal church or Sharia re-interpreted by the Caliph (or Torah/Talmud by zionist minded jews), were on that same page.

The Arabs never had Enlightenment. And worse, Pax Americana in today's age chose to marry the Wahhabists for OIL, and thru hanky panky managed even to have installed the Ayatollah in Iran and then managed from same hegemonic hanky panky to make Pak/Afghan into Taliban land. Some geo-political play of mastermind!

That region will only revive once all the theocrats are uprooted by their own people. As Religious fundamentalism is a form of modern fascism.  No place for honest men, as Mussolini proved. 

We westerners learned that lesson in warlike strife over 1000 years, leading to pope's eviction from politics in 1648 Peace of Westphalia and 1713 peace of Utrecht saw Bourbon-Habsburg's western empire (the other fundamentalist thread) disintegrate. We got balance of power in Europe. Didn't stop Europe from imploding in colonial-imperial hubris in two WWs. One wonders today if we learned any lesson there!  I just hope so !

Now all we have to do is to untie the US Bible belt and all will hang out like a world made truly clitoral garden of eden.

Yippeee; end of Abrahamic patriarchy. I am very hopeful if we survive this last hurrah of US hegemony gone head up financial ass. 

Go long clitorii; the females have a great future. The "bearded" ones (aka the male and female neo-con cum fundamentalist fascists) not so much ! 

Spoken like an honest dick tracy who likes open systems and is metaphysically agnostic.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 15:02 | 5554669 where_is the_nuke
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Haven't you read the Talmud moshe?

Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God
 
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.
 
O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
 
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile the wages owed him for work.
 
Jews Have Superior Legal Status
 
Baba Kamma 37b. If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full.
 
Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
 
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned.
 
Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
 
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile, there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
 
Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

 

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 15:02 | 5554676 where_is the_nuke
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Jews May Lie to Non-Jews

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

WAIT...THERE'S MORE -

Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.

Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.

Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 15:10 | 5554712 Monty Burns
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These are what are known as HATE FACTS.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 15:09 | 5554704 Monty Burns
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That's correct BB and it's a vital point. The apologists for the Religion of Peace always prattle on about the terrorists 'misinterpreting' Islam.  As you say, the terrorists are the true Muslims, those who call for tolerance are the ones doing the misinterpreting.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 13:39 | 5554318 El Gringo
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I agree.  Jews have no place here either.  Multiculturalism, Judaism, and Progressivism are all terminal cancers upon this planet.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:13 | 5553870 PacOps
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Nice idea for a practical solution but it will never happen. Has been talked to death over the ages. Criticizing an imam can get you terminated or at the least ostracized. The imam is the local leader in a muslim community. The elected guys are just talking heads with no real power.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:26 | 5553938 MsCreant
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Regarding your suggestion, see your screen name.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 11:41 | 5553705 Sub MOA
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Another isrealican op gone off as planned .... "we staged some people,  we saved some people"  

 

No copy right on the newly coined term israelicans use abundantly  israelican = dual citizen ( incase you couldn't figure it out ;) )

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 11:55 | 5553788 1000yrdstare
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How about "Amerael" doe that work as well?

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:11 | 5553859 Sub MOA
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sure why not just depends which side of the pond you're on lol

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 22:26 | 5556508 SickDollar
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how about " The Tribe" ?

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:27 | 5553950 U4 eee aaa
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The pelicans say you're infringing

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:54 | 5554092 Sub MOA
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the pelicans will be extinct soon from eating radioactive fishes ...no worry

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 11:44 | 5553719 general ambivalent
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Charlie and the Chocolate False/True Flaggery.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 11:45 | 5553732 I am a Man I am...
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CNBC has had horrible coverage of this.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 11:46 | 5553738 MickV
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BS false flag. "Gunman" was clearly seen in front of plate glass window. Could have been taken out many times over.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 11:49 | 5553745 youngman
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2 dead and 3 gravely injured says the news now

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 11:48 | 5553749 Haloween1
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Law abiding citizens are not allowed to own handguns in Australia.  Self defense is not an option for the sheeple of Australia.

 

 

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:38 | 5553993 Sub MOA
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an intersting question is ...if the right to carry and have firearms was "legal"  would it really matter in a staged event? 

 

play out the scene gunman takes said hostages and one hostage shoots gunman well the op still goes off but with a twist  it solidifies the right to carry which the dipshits in charge don;t want they still get to blame the perp and want their "war" against said country but they can't have it because joe blow proves he/they can defend themselves.

now if it's not an op then it never see's coverage because once again it solidifies the "right" to bear arms  and the dipshits don't want that.

the only solution is to irradicate said aforementioned dip shits aka .gov it's media and it's handlers.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 13:47 | 5554339 El Gringo
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I agree.  We need to "Holocaust" (a real one this time) the progressive globalists and the run of the mill nanny-staters right along with them. 

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 14:47 | 5554603 cornflakesdisease
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And Australia saw home invasion and other violent crimes go up 66% right after this happened.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 11:49 | 5553753 I am a Man I am...
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I wonder if the police accidentally killed the hostages?

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:16 | 5553889 silverer
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You are making a presumption. "Accidentally".

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 11:52 | 5553768 Fix It Again Timmy
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Why can't cops flash-bang and tear up Jamie Dimon who last week successfully held Americans hostage [unbeknownst to them] until he got his loot - another guaranteed CONgressional bailout of greedy banks... Are there any assholes out there who still believe their votes count?...

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:26 | 5553943 Ban KKiller
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POLICE are owned and...they don't even know they are slaves. 

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 11:52 | 5553774 Sub MOA
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All this hostage taking shit would end real reaal fast if the .gov assholes just shot the hostages ... yeah thats unthinkable and horrible... but as once stated "we will not negotiate with terrorists"   so then wack the hostages 1 time event for the "greater good"  and bingo hostage taking has no "value" problem solved.

 

the sacrificed hostages will be "heroes" and their leech families always want money to ease their greif so pay em .... Realism sucks huh?   get over it everyone dies sometime.  And hey if anyone believes the meme of saving future persons  then there should be no outrage right???? 

They did it for the children/ for future generations / they made a sacrifice blah blah blah need I go on I can dispute every arguement ya got.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 11:58 | 5553801 Seasmoke
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So I can go take 50 hostages and the cops will kill them all for me....sounds pretty easy.....I don't even need to bring bullets with me !!

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:10 | 5553854 Sub MOA
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most "hostage takers" do it for "publicity for their ccause" if the means to their ends is gone then so to is their "worthiness" to take hostages.  No news spin to their favor no mention of their name or affiliations  just dead gunman/men praise be the hostages  the masses will light candles maybe remember their names for a few years rather than the psy-ops perps name ...think outside the box ...ofcourse the whole proposal is ludicrous because it flies in the face of the assholes really running the show.   simply put .gov would be shooting down it's own ops what good would that do them?

 

I'm just throwing around some points here for "critical thinkers"  Irony and sarc included also alot of truth ..so rather than just reacting to the post let it circle your mind alittle see what scenarios ya come up with and which ones weed out the lies.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 14:46 | 5554599 cornflakesdisease
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You mean something like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lDb0Dn8OXE

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 11:53 | 5553778 Smuckers
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We flat white'd some folks...

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 11:54 | 5553789 homiegot
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Hey Australia, get ready to lose all your rights! Have fun!

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:08 | 5553843 williambanzai7
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All they have to do is follow our template.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:18 | 5553903 all-priced-in
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It's for the children.

 

 

 

/s/

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 11:56 | 5553791 Billy Sol Estes
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We must invade now! No compromise!

It doesn't even matter what country it is. We Must Invade SOMEONE!

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:06 | 5553842 Usurious
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North Dakota

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 11:58 | 5553812 BiteMeBO
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We hostaged some folks.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:01 | 5553821 savagegoose
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thank fuck its dealt with

 

 

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:06 | 5553841 medium giraffe
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NATO should invade Australia immediately.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:32 | 5553972 williambanzai7
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You meant NYPD

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:43 | 5554010 medium giraffe
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I thought they were on maneuver on the outskirts of Damascus?

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:13 | 5553867 HowdyDoody
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<-- coincidence
<-- planned false flag

6 weeks ago, Australian military/police trained for a hostage seige scenario - in an inner city cafe!

http://robinwestenra.blogspot.co.nz/2014/12/more-on-australian-cafe-host...

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:13 | 5553871 sheikurbootie
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No flag for you!

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:34 | 5553882 fel.temp.reparatio
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The perp is identified as Man Haron Monis aka Manteghi Boroujerdi, a self proclaimed cleric originally from Iran. Here's a transcript of an interview he did with Australia's ABC Radio network back in 2001 (click 'Show Transcript' and scroll almost to the bottom of the page)... 

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:14 | 5553884 Sizzurp
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If Australia would follow our' rectal rehydration protocol, they wouldn't have these dehydration problems.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:18 | 5553893 numapepi
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This whole episode is impossible!!! Guns are illegal in Australia... so according to the gun grabbers, this type of thing cannot happen there! That could only happen where guns are legal and available - like Switzerland. Therefore it couldn't have happened!

Must be pro gun right wing propaganda! Not to mention that Islam is a religion of peace and no Muslim would ever do anything bad like that! Just ask Obama. /Sarc.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:17 | 5553897 all-priced-in
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So one lone terrorist is now considered a siege?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:43 | 5554016 Prober
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If you ask the lone gunman's hostages, they may think it was a "siege".

Anyway, who gives a gnat turd what you call it ????????????????????????

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:22 | 5553928 vegas
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Good for the Australians!; kill all of them. If this had happened in the United States of Detroit, the terrorists family wouild now be planning a lawsuit against the police for denying the terrorists "civil rights". WTF

 

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Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:24 | 5553934 U4 eee aaa
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So they only needed two people with a little courage. One to throw a hot pot of coffee in the guy's face and another to bust a chair over the back of his head. Grab a weapon everyone. Stop hiding in the corner.

Now would I have done that? Well, in the fox hole you don't know what you would do, but I definitely would have looked for my options.

and fame, fortune and babes to the guy that does that

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:26 | 5553944 Ms No
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People love this shit. The Neocons get to engage in an orgasm of religious fundamentalist war mongering bullshit about "the religion of peace" and the government loving liberal idiots fall to their knees in cowardice..... take the guns away, strenthen the government! 

Anytime this fake terrorism happens just best to stay away from the discourse of the general population.  It's fucking maddening, anal irrigation is preferable.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 14:26 | 5554499 shovelhead
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Sounds like you need a song to cheer you up. And in deference to your preferences...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5ep8jp2zkQ

Relax and enjoy.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:31 | 5553968 JR
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Just who are the key movers in the government that have created America’s War on the World? Identifying them today, Paul Craig Roberts says this wide group of warmongers are the neoconservatives in the government. Excerpt:

“Neoconservatives dominated the George W. Bush regime. They controlled the Pentagon, the National Security Council, the Office of the Vice President, and much else. Neoconservatives gave us 9/11 and its coverup, the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, the beginning of the destabilizations of Pakistan and Yemen, the U.S. Africa Command, the invasion of South Ossetia by Georgia, the demise of the anti-ABM Treaty, unconstitutional and illegal spying on American citizens without warrants, loss of constitutional protections, torture, and the unaccountability of the executive branch to law, Congress, and the judiciary. In short, the neoconservatives laid the foundation for dictatorship and for WW III.

“The Obama regime held no one accountable for the crimes of the Bush regime, thus creating the precedent that the executive branch is above the law. Instead, the Obama regime prosecuted whistleblowers who told the truth about government crimes.

“Neoconservatives remain very influential in the Obama regime. As examples, Obama appointed neoconservative Susan Rice as his National Security Advisor. Obama appointed neoconservative Samantha Power as U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations. Obama appointed neoconservative Victoria Nuland as Assistant Secretary of State. Nuland’s office, working with the CIA and Washington-financed NGOs, organized the U.S. coup in Ukraine.

“Neoconservatism is the only extant political ideology. The ideology is “America uber alles.” Neoconservatives believe that History has chosen the United States to exercise hegemony over the world, thereby making the U.S. ‘exceptional’ and ‘indispensable.’ Obama himself has declared as much. This ideology gives neoconservatives tremendous confidence and drive, just as Karl Marx’s conclusion that history had chosen the workers to be the ruling class gave early communists confidence and drive.”

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/12/paul-craig-roberts/how-close-are-we/

In short, the US world scale of terrorism, the path to attaining the US/NATO/Israeli end,  lies in slaughtering the innocent.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:36 | 5553988 Ms No
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Yeah but Obama is just besting his tambourine and handing out flowers right?

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 13:27 | 5554258 dexter_morgan
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neocons exist in both parties. Been that way for a long time, but they got the ascendancy when Bush and Dickless Cheney were in power, so they are mainly identified with repubs. Just like Wall Street - as we recently saw, protecting bankers over the people is done by both parties.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 13:55 | 5554372 insanelysane
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Let's add it up.

Bush/Cheney: Killed leader of Iraq

Obama/Biden: Killed leaders of Al Qaeda and Libya.  Ousted leaders of Egypt and Ukraine.  Work in Progress: Leaders of Syria, ISIS, ...

Peace is just a word.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:36 | 5553989 silverer
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Gun control. Think about this: All of the citizens inside were disarmed by their government. So now we have a large group of people, who clearly outnumber one person with a gun. But the one gun rules in the hands of the criminal. So think about the response: piles of cops show up bringing guns. Why? Why do they come with guns? Because apparently guns are the necessary tool to deal with this situation. They come with guns, and now they have what they need to deal with the situation. But they took those very same tools away from their own citizens. So now the hostages have to put up with a shooting war ANYWAY. And they have to put up with flash grenades, tear gas, and all the other abuses brought to them by their own tax dollars, because they were NOT TRUSTED to deal with it themselves by their own government. Nice. This is where we have landed, folks. In sh_tsville land. Thanks, elected politicians for trusting those that obey the law, and pay your paycheck. You guys suck in spades.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:41 | 5554006 Prober
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Ahmen. When you run for office let me know and I will contribute to your campaign.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:53 | 5554079 Sub MOA
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Nice post really except you forgot one aspect the asshole percentage of the populace that goes along with having you dis-armed those vermin are just as guilty..and no one will ever convince me of any excuse for the retardation.  They don't want or like firearms yet they are the first ones looking to be saved by armed thugs.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 13:01 | 5554127 silverer
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I used to say "You get what you vote for", but now I'm afraid it's "You have a vote, but not a choice". But give it some time, Sub. People wake up sooner or later, but it's usually later after they pay a very heavy price.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 13:22 | 5554233 Comte d'herblay
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"When guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns."

Though widely overused to the point of the ridiculous, some things bear repeating. And should be tatooted on the inside of human beans foreheads.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 15:13 | 5554718 g'kar
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If only the gov and criminals (redundant, I know) have guns, what do you call the citizens? Surrounded.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 16:58 | 5555122 Prober
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I don't fly anymore, used to fly all over the world for biz & pleasure. In the OLD days, I used to carry a pistol and magazines in my locked travel case under the seat. Just imagine how useful that would have been on 9/11, cafe in Sidney, or any similar situation. Those days will never come again :-((

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:48 | 5554045 quasimodo
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The pic from that rag huffpo was sure ironic with the headlines about running toward freedom. 

"Hostages run towards police as they run to freedom from a cafe under siege at Martin Place

http://huff.to/1AaSNOb   "

 

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:51 | 5554065 silverer
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Good one quasi. Spot on. It is coming down to a coin toss, isn't it?

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 12:58 | 5554107 Prober
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New to ZH, suprised by all the pro-islamist comments. Mentioned it to a hacker friend of mine who does a lot of criminal investigation work and he said:
"Didn't you know that a lot of the western blog and comment web sites are exploited by the islamists to spread their propaganda anonymously while appearing as members of western countries ?"

Ahhhhhhh, now I understand and I am wondering WHO is behind the comments ???????

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 13:13 | 5554178 dexter_morgan
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Can't speak for all commenters, but perhaps many are just waking up to the fact that we get lied to hourly in order for TPTB to continue progressing their agendas. The question you should be asking is what are those agendas and who is behind those. I don't see most of the comments as being pro-islamist, more like anti-manipulation from the other side. AIPAC doesn't spend $100 million per US election cycle with no expectqations of something in return. Multiply that by the control they have over our media, our entertainment, and most importantly our central bank and perhaps you see why many see through the whole islamist boogie man stuff. Who sets up, arms and trains these terror groups? Why do they do it and with who's money.

If you want a neocon echo chamber you happened in to the wrong site.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 14:38 | 5554558 cornflakesdisease
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There is momma gander and their is papa gander   . . . .

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 19:51 | 5555943 Leraconteur
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...because if TPTB stopped their evil machinations, everyone could hold hands around the fire and be a brotherhood of man with their gold backed, non-inlfationary, currency, and monetary system.

You guys live in fantasy land.

People are violent and kill, just because - and not only government goons.

Don't need any NWO to have violence - it would be here regardless.

7th C, you lunatics - Muslims have been doing this for 1400 years plus. Cheney and the NWO did not create their mindset, that was Mohammed and a bunch of backwards tribal warlords on the Peninsula, along with existing stupid tribal customs added to Islam to make it acceptable to the loicals, then exported globally.

Tue, 12/16/2014 - 01:22 | 5556928 Ginsengbull
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If you analyze sentence structure and misspellings, it becomes obvious that some troll under a multitude of different handles.

 

Then, when "they" want to shout you down, it looks like you are really in the minority.

 

It only lasts a few hours before their mom tells them to "stop all that noisy typing down there".

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 13:12 | 5554180 Sandmann
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Spelling of "siege" is somewhat unconventional in the headline

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 13:13 | 5554186 JR
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Will the real hostage taker, Monis/Boroujerdi, step forward.

The details come pouring forth, such as today’s profile of the hostage taker by Tony Cartalucci, Infowars.com. Was he created by the media?

Excerpt from the article:

However, later in 2008, Monis/Boroujerdi’s activities drew the attention of real Shia’a religious leaders in Australia who asked Australian security agents to investigate him. In an Australian article titled, “Call to probe mystery Shia cleric,” it was reported that:

FEDERAL agents have been urged by the nation’s senior Shia leader, Kamal Mousselmani, to investigate an Iranian man purporting to be a prominent Islamic cleric.

Sheik Mousselmani told The Australian yesterday the mystery cleric – who has been identified as Ayatollah Manteghi Boroujerdi on his website after appearing under the name Sheik Haron – was not a genuine Shia spiritual leader.

He said there were no ayatollahs – supreme Shia scholars – in Australia and none of his fellow spiritual leaders knew who Ayatollah Boroujerdi or Sheik Haron was.

“We don’t know him and we have got nothing to do with him,” Sheik Mousselmani said. “The federal police should investigate who he is. It should be their responsibility.” 

But it was the Australian media itself who introduced him publicly as an “Ayatollah” and the Australian government that vetted him and allegedly granted him political asylum. He was allegedly in contact with the UN and was used to stir up anti-Iranian sentiment in Australia. It is then highly suspicious that now both the Australian media and the Australian government appear to have no knowledge of who he is or where he came from.

“For someone used as part of the West’s anti-Iranian propaganda campaign, and who was granted political asylum into Australia, but who is now supposedly unknown to those who invited him in and used him, there is clearly more to the story of Monis/Boroujerdi – a story that may then offer insight into his latest performance. Perhaps most ironic of all is the fact that the “Iranian regime” he was used to demonize apparently did not kill his wife – instead, he himself is suspected of doing so.

Whatever the case is, Monis/Boroujerdi is certainly no “lone wolf terrorist.” He, at best, is yet another Frankenstein of the establishment run amok after an abortive attempt to cultivate and use him to advance Western foreign and domestic policy. At worse, he is directly involved in an intelligence operation to further inflame division in Australian society and promote the long stalled war in Syria aimed at regime change there, before heading to Iran – the scorn of Monis/Boroujerdi.

http://www.infowars.com/who-created-cartoon-character-man-haron-monis-behind-sydney-siege-circus/

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 13:25 | 5554241 Comte d'herblay
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Lord help them if blacks were the hostage takers.  They are in for a Charlie Rangel/Maxine Watters tummy noogie.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 13:59 | 5554389 PT
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Better tell that govt dept that bought some "Personal Defence Rifles".

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 14:02 | 5554406 insanelysane
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You false flag conspiracy theorist nuts are all the same.  It's perfectly reasonable for Syria to have used nerve gas on women and children but not on ISIS.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 14:06 | 5554419 Final Authority
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Who in the Oz government "vetted" him and why did they let him in? I am sure they will let us know the truth. /sarc

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 14:19 | 5554478 SickDollar
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Who Created Cartoon Character "Man Haron Monis" Behind "Sydney Siege" Circus?

Previously an outspoken critic of Iranian government, was interviewed by Australian media in 2001, loved Western society... 

As predicted, the suspect amid the "Sydney Siege," has long been on the radar of Australian law enforcement, as well as a frequent visitor to Australia's court system.

Before that, however, he came to Australia as a political refugee, an opponent of what he called the "Iranian regime," and was even interviewed by Australia's ABC network in 2001 as part of an ongoing anti-Iranian propaganda campaign. 

It has been revealed that long-time agitator, alias "Man Haron Monis," also known as "Manteghi Boroujerdi," was the suspect amid the so-called "Sydney Siege" hostage crisis. Monis/Boroujerdi claims to be a Shia'a religious leader and is often seen in press photos dressed as one.

Despite this, he was at the center of a hostage crisis requesting the flag of the "Islamic State" terrorist organization be delivered to him while claiming association with other ISIS "brothers."

Neither Islamic nor a state, ISIS is led by US, Israeli, and Saudi-backed Wahabi terrorists, promoting a perversion of Sunni Islam - the bane to both genuine Sunnis and Shia'a worldwide and against which both the nations of Syria and Iran are fighting.

Monis/Boroujerdi rose to infamy amid two notable incidents - one being his involvement in the stabbing death and burning of his ex-wife - the other being his controversial campaign of sending hate-letters to the families of dead Australian soldiers killed during the invasion and occupation of Afghanistan. The latter was used extensively to stir up division across the pro and anti-war political divide.

The Australian in a September 2013 article titled, "'Cleric' Man Haron Monis punished for offensive letters written to families of dead Diggers," reported that:

A SELF-styled Muslim cleric has been sentenced to 300 hours of community service for penning "grossly offensive" letters to families of soldiers killed in Afghanistan. 

Man Haron Monis, also known as Sheik Haron, was also placed on a two-year good behaviour bond. 

So too was his co-accused and partner, 34-year-old Amirah Droudis, who pleaded guilty to one count of aiding and abetting him.

In December of 2013, the Australian Daily Telegraph would report in an article titled, "'Hate' sheik Man Horan Monis and girlfriend Amirzh Droudis granted bail on murder charges," that:

Monis is charged as an accessory before and after the fact to the murder of Noleen Hayson Pal, 30, who was stabbed 18 times and set alight outside a western Sydney unit in April.

Monis/Boroujerdi's Origins Story

But before Monis/Boroujerdi's recent run-ins with the law and his role as chief "Muslim boogeyman" in Australia, he was "Manteghi Boroujerdi," a "victim" of the "Iranian regime" who was in love with Western society.

Australia's ABC in its "Religion Report" dated January 31, 2001, introduced Monis/Boroujerdi as follows:

...while in Sydney we talk to Ayatollah Manteghi Boroujerdi, an Iranian cleric espousing a liberal brand of Islam - dangerously liberal, as his views have led to his wife and two daughters being held hostage in Iran.

The interview itself is used as yet another vehicle to carry along Western propaganda long-aimed at Iran. It claims Monis/Boroujerdi's family is in grave danger and that Monis/Boroujerdi himself would be executed should he ever return to Iran. It quotes Monis/Boroujerdi several times including claims he was formally associated with Iranian intelligence:

In Iran, mostly I have been involved with the Ministry of Intelligence and Security.

And was in contact with the UN regarding security issues in Iran:

...more than four years I have not seen my family, and the Iranian regime doesn't let them come out. In fact I can say they are hostage; as a hostage the Iranian regime wants to make me silent, because I have some secret information about government, and about their terrorist operations in the war. I sent a letter to the Secretary-General of the United Nations and somebody on behalf of Mr Kofi Anan sent the answer, and they want to do something. I have hope and always I pray and ask God to solve my problem.

At one point during the interview Monis/Boroujerdi professes his love of Australia, Canada, the US, and UK claiming:

...we can say Australia, Canada, England, USA, so many western countries, they are religious societies. They don't say 'We are religious', but in fact the spirit of religion, we can see the spirit of religion in these societies. And some other countries in the Middle East, in Asia, they say 'We are Islamic' they have a name of Islamic, but in fact they are not religious societies and religious governments. Whenever I walk in the street, whenever I go out in Australia, I feel I am in a real religious society. I don't want to say it is perfect, we don't have a perfect society on the earth, but when we compare, if we compare Australia with Iran and other countries in the Middle East, we can say it is heaven.

However, later in 2008, Monis/Boroujerdi's activities drew the attention of real Shia'a religious leaders in Australia who asked Australian security agents to investigate him. In an Australian article titled, "Call to probe mystery Shia cleric," it was reported that:

FEDERAL agents have been urged by the nation's senior Shia leader, Kamal Mousselmani, to investigate an Iranian man purporting to be a prominent Islamic cleric. 

Sheik Mousselmani told The Australian yesterday the mystery cleric - who has been identified as Ayatollah Manteghi Boroujerdi on his website after appearing under the name Sheik Haron - was not a genuine Shia spiritual leader. 

He said there were no ayatollahs - supreme Shia scholars - in Australia and none of his fellow spiritual leaders knew who Ayatollah Boroujerdi or Sheik Haron was. 

"We don't know him and we have got nothing to do with him," Sheik Mousselmani said. "The federal police should investigate who he is. It should be their responsibility."

But it was the Australian media itself who introduced him publicly as an "Ayatollah" and the Australian government that vetted him and allegedly granted him political asylum. He was allegedly in contact with the UN and was used to stir up anti-Iranian sentiment in Australia. It is then highly suspicious that now both the Australian media and the Australian government appear to have no knowledge of who he is or where he came from.

For someone used as part of the West's anti-Iranian propaganda campaign, and who was granted political asylum into Australia, but who is now supposedly unknown to those who invited him in and used him, there is clearly more to the story of Monis/Boroujerdi - a story that may then offer insight into his latest performance. Perhaps most ironic of all is the fact that the "Iranian regime" he was used to demonize apparently did not kill his wife - instead, he himself is suspected of doing so.

Whatever the case is, Monis/Boroujerdi is certainly no "loan wolf terrorist." He, at best, is yet another Frankenstein of the establishment run amok after an abortive attempt to cultivate and use him to advance Western foreign and domestic policy. At worse, he is directly involved in an intelligence operation to further inflame division in Australian society and promote the long stalled war in Syria aimed at regime change there, before heading to Iran - the scorn of Monis/Boroujerdi.

An omnipresent all-invasive surveillance state that is constantly "blindsided" by terror attacks carried out by criminals and characters possessing extensive criminal records and who are well-acquainted with that state's law enforcement, media, and even government, is testament to the fact that such surveillance hasn't been and never was intended to serve the public's best interests nor to keep them safe - but rather another system of control and manipulation to allow true dangers to human civilization to endure with impunity.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 15:05 | 5554680 shovelhead
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I'm surprised Australia didn't hire him as a Marriage Resolution Counselor.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 14:27 | 5554510 robertocarlos
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All of them shot by the cops? Had to be asked. That Man is a deranged coward so of course he shot some woman on his way out.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 14:31 | 5554529 prymythirdeye
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Another FAKE event and the people jump and scream like little girls....success.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 15:08 | 5554695 shovelhead
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Some of us enjoy some light prancing as well.

Tue, 12/16/2014 - 01:16 | 5556916 Ginsengbull
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Skipping takes it to a new level.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 14:44 | 5554586 Son of Loki
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They better get those Virgins ready ... here he comes !

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 17:41 | 5555278 Aussiekiwi
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Bit of a balls up, they should have shot him earlier in the day when they had all the opportunities, single bullet to the head was all that was needed, instead they allowed him to continue and shutdown half of Sydney, hopefully Aussie authorities will learn from their timid approach and lives will be saved in the future.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 22:13 | 5556448 SickDollar
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you missed the point , think outside the box

 it was a success period and  yes the delay was intentional (let the world wake up to this)

there is a reason why they killed him (dead men dont live to tell their crazy side of their story)

 

 

Tue, 12/16/2014 - 01:16 | 5556915 Ginsengbull
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If some journalist could snap his picture through the window, any rifleman worth calling himself one would have been able to end the bullshit.

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 17:42 | 5555329 dexter_morgan
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Weren't there originally 2 armed men mentioned? Thought they said 2 islamacists initially? One get away?

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 17:43 | 5555344 Aussiekiwi
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And they said there were 50 hostages, don't listen to the MSM, the desperate attempts by the Aussie media to try and create their own Aussie 911 yesterday were pitiful to watch....all day long

Mon, 12/15/2014 - 18:29 | 5555567 cart00ner
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Don't read too much into it, just a suicide by cop deal. The idiot was up on rape/murder & assorted charges and wanted to take the cowards way out.

No doubt the focus will be on his "terrorist agenda." BS from start to finish as the cops had a clear view and could have ended it at any time, instead were probably told to milk the media attention for all it was worth.

Tue, 12/16/2014 - 01:26 | 5556930 Ginsengbull
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One psycho in Philly killed more that this jerk off camel fucker did.

Tue, 12/16/2014 - 07:23 | 5557213 Comte d'herblay
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Anyone sporting a name,  "Man Haron Monis Manteghi Boroujerdi", that reads more like a terrible skin affliction, with possible oncological involvement, ought to have offed himself a long time ago.

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