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Someone Is Lying

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Yesterday, moments before the North Korea "hacking" tragicomedy escalated into full retard mode with Sony pulling The Interview, or a movie that absent the attention would certainly be a flop, Wired released an article titled: "North Korea Almost Certainly Did Not Hack Sony" (title subsequently changed to the one below as can be seen in the URL alias "http://www.wired.com/2014/12/north-korea-did-not-hack-sony-probs"), which however, and for the better, retains its content as it is quite critical in debunking the latest government "certainty."

 

Continue reading here for the full story, because moments after the Wired piece hit, we got this "confirmation" from the NYT:

 

It is quite clear that someone is lying (we leave it up to readers to decide who). The question is "why"?

 

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Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:07 | 5568487 Oswald did it
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My brain hurts

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:08 | 5568491 Bithead1
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I knew it...Cuba must have done it! 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:53 | 5568494 alexcojones
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Sounds like a "Sony Tribe Punked Playhouse Production" to me.

Meanwhile, the king of crappy comedy complained his free speech was being infringed.

Judd Apatow Call 'The Interview' Decision...
Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:12 | 5568510 Dirtt
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After POTUS44 throws the intel community under the bus AGAIN, the likely "culprit" in the Sony Hack is the Central Intelligence Agency.

The CIA gets to rub a HUGE Obama donor 'family's' face in the horseshit - which for the record I think is hysterical that those fucking lying hypocrites get exposed for who they are...a bunch of asshole talentless backstabbers i.e Hollywood - while North Korea gets to sit back and take credit for something they couldn't achieve on their own in another 50 years.

Fuck Hollywood, Screw 44. And entertain America. A WIN-WIN-WIN all around. Don't ya think?

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:38 | 5568869 Freddie
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I agree with all of your post but the See Eye Aye are no friends of American citizens. 

We have no friends in the govt at all.   The See Eye Aye helped put O in power and the military and intel agencies support the destruction of America, open borders and the whole evil shit they do.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:13 | 5568511 homiegot
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Yes, someone is always lying.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:35 | 5568601 Emergency Ward
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Unnamed "high-ranking" Govt Officials speaking Off The Record can never have their veracity challenged.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:04 | 5569003 Uranus Hertz
Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:16 | 5568518 vyeung
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Sounds like the Zionist (who control the mass media & Hollywood) want payback!

Going to be like another Bush WMD thing. Hacker have to be somewhere, not here, not there, we'll find them somewhere BULLSHIT!

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:20 | 5568546 dexter_morgan
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A nice distraction from all the other BS going on though.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:27 | 5568569 LFMayor
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So maybe Piglet is as good at hacking as he is a golf?  I hear he shoots a perfect round.  Every damn time, even.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:27 | 5568570 MarlasBack
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Inside help.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:04 | 5568739 I Write Code
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That's what I've been saying.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:27 | 5568571 bankonzhongguo
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The more likely scenario is that Sony hired hackers to hack Sony.

Who wins?

Sony the Corporation.

Big Media needs to be damaged in order to press more DNS level anti piracy legislation and enforcement.

The movie theater model is becoming more dead (at least in America) with every release.

Sony will get more press by having a "subversive" movie that folks can download rather than watch at a theater.

Sony got nothing but fantastic press for over a week on this "victimization."

Maybe they lose a few executives. So what.

The stars get press too.

North Korea can barely make the toilets flush and now the faulted (Smith-Hanson) FBI has a theory?

Does anyone really think (and act upon) the idea that North Korea will attack movie theaters in America that show this so-called comedy?

Is that how far down the stupid hole we are?

Let me tell you about this all important movie. 

'Two half wits with no prospects like to get high all the time get a chance to interview the wacky North Korean leader. An equally wacky American government wants the two half-wits to kill the leader. They meet a sexy army lady, see wild wacky Korean parties and in a fit of last minute uneasiness decide to kill the guy on accident and save the world. The end.

If you hear that Sony is spending money doing re-shoots for a new ending, then chances are society is even more fucked than we realize.

 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:56 | 5568686 NotApplicable
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You forgot about the now occurring public backlash against "giving in to the terrorists."

I swear, it's on every fucking radio station/blog/etc...

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:44 | 5568906 Freddie
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Totally manufactured BS.  Maybe Americans will wake up and unplug TV and unplug Hollywood.

Glad to see the theater model is dying.  Maybe people are waking up.  The local 18 picture theater is pretty dead most of the time.  F em. Hollywood loves O and fully supports the police state.

They make movies glorifying the SWAT, Intel agency, govt corpution, shoot up and bomb everything police state while making fun of flyover country type.  F Hollywood.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:07 | 5569010 IridiumRebel
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I watch ZH. The trolls are the commercials I tune out.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:58 | 5569334 SillyWabbits
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I believe you are onto the crux of the matter.

It makes more sense that a “hacker group” would be more interested in things “internet’ related than film related.

With MPAA (Motion Picture Association of America) trying to hack the DNS structure in order to stop piracy: one can surmise the Sony hack was for reasons web related and not geopolitical!

Thus, carried out by nerds, not North Koreans.  

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:29 | 5568581 robertocarlos
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It's a rip-off of Spies Like Us.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:33 | 5568589 Fix It Again Timmy
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Can't believe all the press this non-issue is getting.  It sounds like a SNL skit.  I could give a shit if North Korea hacked Sony - that's Sony's problem...

And yeah, we're way far down in the stupid hole and digging frantically...

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:45 | 5568646 Smuckers
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Where were they when "Left Behind" was about to be released....could've used some pre-emptive help on that one.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:46 | 5568650 L_Conquistador
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Is it hard to imagine a scenario where NK tells the US government to stop the movie - or else - and this is how the U.S. government went about it? 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:03 | 5568715 NotApplicable
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Impossibly hard to imagine. This shit has obviously been scripted, otherwise there'd be no MSM 24/7 coverage.

IMO, it is a psyop in order to reinforce the fear from the 2012 Aurora theater shooting (and others).

Which would imply another false-flag event coming up to maximize the effect.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:51 | 5568667 fel.temp.reparatio
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"U.S. Said to Find North Korea Ordered Cyberattack on Sony."

Sounds more like a directive than a headline... just saying.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:33 | 5568858 Flybyknight
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I agree also the comments ,by sony executives, released would require a reasonably sophisticated knowledge of english and western society gossip do's and don'ts, that the Nth Koreans are unlikely to have.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:52 | 5568673 Berspankme
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Lying ? Obuttfuck admin? Haha, wake me when they are telling truth.

Fuck you bernanke

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:53 | 5568674 Gilligan4Prez
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It's really sad, when I have a believe WIRED more than my Government.

 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:03 | 5568722 NotApplicable
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With the exception of the voice in your head, you don't have a government, little buddy.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:45 | 5568903 Meme Iamfurst
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Go read their magazine before you come to any conclusions.  Then you would have a new point of view.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 12:54 | 5568680 paint it red ca...
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Didn't buy into the north korea story for a moment. Why? Because I saw the full story with experts on msnbc, cnn, etc. etc. etc. The only thing to make it less convincing would have been janet yellon to have repeated it in a fed meeting.

Being awake and aware to the fact that what has become known as the MSM has been THE disinformation funnel for the lying psyops liers in government and beyond for my entire adult life, 'The Mighty Wurlitzer'. I have become a total skeptic for any information that I cannot personally see, touch, feel, or confirm. I pray to see the end of these lying manipulative sociopathic pricks and their wholly owned institutions in my lifetime.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:51 | 5568940 Freddie
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Why do you watch TV and continue supporting the whole shit show?

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:04 | 5568734 Quinvarius
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I don't see anything from North Korea's official PR department:

http://www.kcna.co.jp/index-e.htm

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:06 | 5568745 Bone Nower
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Look at a night time satellite image of the Korean peninsula.  SK is lit up, NK is dark. 

One thing about the current regime, their false flags really really suck.  

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:11 | 5568769 SMC
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..."officals have concluded"...  that they needed a smoke screen?, another bogeyman?, etc...

Zero confidence. 

 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:11 | 5568774 Aussiekiwi
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Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:12 | 5568777 Uranus Hertz
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Kaz: Mike, this film is a dog. Any ideas how we can boost sales?

Mike: I know, I know! Kaz, lets blame terrorists! TPTB's been fleecing everybody with this trick for decades!

Kaz: Ha ha! All ur disposable income r belong 2 us!

Mike: We are TPTB...

Kaz: Hai! Hai! Buy moar stawks!

Mike: Cuba's on the market! Buy Cuba!

Kaz: Hai!

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:12 | 5568778 BlueHen1990
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Sony did the decent thing here and spared us all from a "comedy" that would've been horrible anyway. From the trailer:

"We need you to take him out"

 

"Out...like to dinnner??"

 

Are you kidding me?

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:27 | 5568829 BeetleBailey
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Agreed. The shit-show looked asinine to begin with.

Rogen and Franco are limo liberal cuntbags, and SONY has the spine of a sissy in a biker bar.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:15 | 5568780 Counterpunch
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The New York Times is really little more than the mouthpiece for the establishment - neocon propaganda as to foreign policy blended withyour more typically "liberal" calls for a government freed from the bonds of any limiting document like the Constitution in order to use government power to remake society as they would like to see it - from inside their gated communities.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/falsehoods-and-media-lies-the-new-york-time...

And that's all it is.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:02 | 5568989 IridiumRebel
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NY TIMES is best at the bottom of a bird cage soaking up parakeet urine and feces.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:19 | 5569089 Romanov
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I have heard the New York Times called "The Toliet Paper of Record".

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:22 | 5568805 mr3
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the second I saw the news I came here for exactly these comments...paper money can't buy this kind of convergence

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:29 | 5568834 Son of Captain Nemo
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Hey Tyler.

Might want to put this one up at the top when you get the chance!  Wonder if RT will mention this on their U.S. broadcast?

http://www.ukrainewar.info/shooting-mh-17-buk-312-story-false-says-ukrai...

http://rinf.com/alt-news/featured/ukrainian-soldier-confirms-ukraines-mi...

 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:41 | 5569238 Counterpunch
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agreed.  I'd like to see Seymour Hersh's take.

Pretty well established false flags in Syria and now Ukraine....  and rumors are flying that another one will be coming up in Ukraine in the first half of January.


Some unsubstantiated rumours about Israelis dressed as Russians would have seemed absurd 6 months ago to me, but the deeper you dig, the more Israeli connections there seem to be, and there's no question a few dozen dual citizens with IDF time were at Maidan....

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:31 | 5568847 kchrisc
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How does one snap up some of bankrupt Japan's foreign assets ahead of China?

Sony will have new Zionist masters in 6 months.

An American, not US subject.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:45 | 5568918 YHC-FTSE
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As others have mentioned, Sony already has Amy Pascal. It's really odd how easy it is to spot the scam with them these days. The playbook: They attack others and then play the victim. Get into positions of power into an organization, ruin it and pick it up for pennys on the dollar. Repeat ad nauseum.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:33 | 5569183 Herd Redirectio...
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+ 6 million!  They love to play the victim...  Love it!

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:33 | 5568854 bid the soldier...
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Hmmmm.

Someone Is Lying

 

Someone ISN'T lying.  

Now THAT would be news.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:57 | 5568966 Uranus Hertz
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http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-me...

Akhenaton + Hyksos mercs = EOTWATKI

Rome + Goth mercs = EOTWATKI

UN + IMF mercs = EOTWAWKI

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 16:17 | 5569743 bid the soldier...
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Uranus H.

QE + DOW 30  ==  Heimlich maneuver 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 18:48 | 5570447 Uranus Hertz
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QE = financial roofies

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 20:37 | 5570765 bid the soldier...
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Ooh, I'd like to slip one in your beer and whisper the real skinny about QEs into your ear.

You interested?

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:41 | 5568873 Meme Iamfurst
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ALMOST CERTAINLY DID NOT....well, there is commitment for you.  Mita, maybyish, coulda. ....this is an attempt to get eyeballs to see and read their hokus pokus magazine that concentrates on comics, Japanese monsters, and assorted things that 99% out grew at 15.

 

Wired is a bunch of snotty Conte Nass .01% ers. Very kool...a $4,000 headphone amp for the rich kids. Machines that let you wear the same shirts for days, refreshed with 'scent'. Articles that start on page 121, then jump to the middle of a paragraph on page 40 of a completely different story...so cute. Yea, I get....you waste my precious time with 12 year old stunts and giggle that some jerk go to look for the rest of the article. Who is the jerk? Sure, in their dreams, wired are the experts ,and the US government is a bunch of amateurs? Get a grip readers. Wired is so sophicated that they think gray print ink on white paper is too kool for the average reader who just doesn't get their advanced thinking. I cancelled my subscription to this comic book magazine over 6 months ago and I still get it in the mail. So, advertisers need to review their credibility on eyeballs count, never mind about this story from the kids. Go read a copy before you jump on their bandwagon, then you decide.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 16:04 | 5569677 shovelhead
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Too funny.

I knew the subscription thing was coming up.

I just knew it. Don't ask me how...

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:46 | 5568921 holgerdanske
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One thing I have learned by now.:

Whatever the American government says happened, it's a lie.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:03 | 5568998 Mi Naem
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"Whatever the American government says happened, it's a lie."

Yes, but only one of many from all sides of a contentious issue. 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 13:58 | 5568965 HowdyDoody
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I do hope the attackers made use of the Sony DRM Rootkit to gain access. That would be real karma.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:00 | 5568976 steelrules
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NSA can hack anybody on the planet, N Korea lucky to have electricity.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:01 | 5568988 Mi Naem
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"Someone Is Lying"

Goes along with "The Sun will set tonight." 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:06 | 5569009 Counterpunch
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So, this may be a little... 'indelicate' but of the "Big Eight" film studios-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Eight_%28film_studios%29

Isn't Sony the only one not owned/managed by American Jewish folks?

,,,

I guess not  as the Chairman/CEO of Sony Pictures is Jewish

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Lynton

So is the co-chair

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Pascal

Seems like a bit of a Jewish closed shop, Hollywood.  And that it's been so for 80 years....I thought America was all about diversity and such? 

 

http://articles.latimes.com/2008/dec/19/opinion/oe-stein19

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article31835.htm

http://rense.com/general21/bet.htm

 

If Ben Stein and Joel Stein and "Manny Friedman" can say it....  presumably the liberals of Hollywood are working swiftly to make studio management more representative of the nation as a whole...

 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:09 | 5569028 Fuku Ben
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Someone?

You mean everyone

WTF! is ZH now a joint venture of FOX & RT?

"It is quite clear that someone is lying (we leave it up to readers to decide who). The question is "why"?"

=

We report you decide

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:26 | 5569133 steelrules
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"Why?" obfuscation.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:11 | 5569040 22winmag
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I knew something was up with this certified shitshow the minute I saw the commercial a few weeks back.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:16 | 5569057 w4mps
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Hint...don't buy the DVD when it miraculously appears in a week or so.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:18 | 5569078 gcjohns1971
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The Administration? Lie?

The New York TImes?  Lie?

This is news?

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:25 | 5569136 shovelhead
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James Franco: "Gooly, help me out here...This movie really sucks, a career killer. Can you do something?"

Gooly: "Lakers box?

Franco: "No sweat."

Gooly: Likewise, later dude."

 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:33 | 5569186 Victory_Garden
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What some folks say, others want to know about.:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8Dsh94Homk

 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:40 | 5569223 Jameson18
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Somebody needed a cover story and Cosby wasn't working.

 

 

sober look at accusations that lend themselves to sensationalism, Amy Berg's An Open Secret looks at the sexual exploitation of teenage boys in the entertainment industry by the older men who can make or break their careers. Though its premiere comes at a time when some other long-ignored Hollywood sex-crime cases (like rape allegations against Bill Cosby) are drawing new attention, Berg's film is very tightly focused, examining just one arena of abuse and dutifully addressing only cases in which an accuser is willing to appear on camera. Observers here assure us that these stories are the tip of an iceberg, but Secret is wary of vague accusations and hearsay; it also, despite multiple references to Bryan Singer in its accounts of hedonistic parties, steers clear of airing the accusations that one of its interviewees made in a lawsuit filed earlier this year, then withdrawn after the accuser's prior inconsistent statements emerged. This praiseworthy caution will likely keep the doc from attracting as much attention as many seem to expect (despite a surprise or two involving non-celebrities late in the film); it will play best on cable, where with any luck it will encourage other victims to speak up, and enlighten the parents of showbiz aspirants about the industry's dangers.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 16:14 | 5569722 shovelhead
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I can't wait to hear the "I sucked a lot of dick to get in the movies but it didn't go anywhere, so here I am telling you my story (sobs)" film.

Yup, top o' the list.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:39 | 5569228 Caleb Abell
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Everyone is making light of this tragedy, but the american public will now be deprived to seeing the next Citizen Kane.  It's a sad day for western culture.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 14:41 | 5569239 dirty belly
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More important details here:

http://www.centennialbulb.org/cam.htm

Who could have seen this coming?  Net Neutrality Here We Come!

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 15:48 | 5569607 SnatchnGrab
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North Korea is an odd place. They have missle technology (TPD I / II possibly III now) out the wazzoo and their CAGS, RAGS and DAGS (Corps / Regimental and Divisional Artillery Groups) are the centerpiece of their army. OTOH they don't have a power grid to speak of.  In a conventional war they would bloody Seoul's nose, but get promptly pummeled by the ROK forces.

I have no doubt they could be behind this, and given what I know about their cult towards "Dear Leader" (Seriously, his father would appear on propaganda stating that he (KJI) was the reason flowers bloomed) I don't find it "odd" that they would direct national resources towards penetrating Sony.

Sometimes the obvious answer is the real answer. 

 

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 16:02 | 5569670 dot_bust
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It didn't take long after Obama's Ebola-in-America hoax for him to create a new hoax: the Sony-was-hacked hoax.

And, after that, Obama will create yet another hoax to keep the sheeple busy.

Thu, 12/18/2014 - 16:05 | 5569678 Westcoastliberal
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Talk about an "opportunity" on a silver platter....since N. Korea has issued threats regarding this film, doesn't it make perfect sense for the Fedgov to "hack" Sony, then blame it on the N Koreans to enable Fedgov to implement additional "Cybersecurity" measures (measures designed to thwart Internet communications)?  Hell they do this all the time, just consider all the strange shit about Sandy Hook & the Boston marathon "bombing".

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