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18-Year-Old Black Teen Who Drew Gun Shot Dead By Police In St. Louis Gas Station

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Just days after two NYPD officers were brutally executed in broad daylight in what is said to be a retaliation for the deaths of Michael Brown and Eric Garner, overnight, amazingly, just miles away from the St. Louis suburb of Ferguson where Michael Brown was shot in August, an 18 year-old black man was shot and killed by police at a gas station in the St. Louis suburb of Berkley late on Tuesday, in a development that is certain to inflame racial, and local police department, tensions even further beyond their breaking point.

As Reuters reports, "police said the man had pointed a handgun at an officer who approached him and another man outside a gas station where the officer was "conducting a routine business check" in the suburb of Berkeley. Fearing for his life, the Berkeley Officer fired several shots, striking the subject, fatally wounding him," St. Louis County Police Department spokesman Brian Schellman said in a statement. The second man fled the scene."

The St. Louis Post-Dispatch named the dead man as 18-year-old Antonio Martin, citing his mother.

The police said they could not confirm his identity.

As was to be expected, promptly thereafter a live video feed showed the gas station cordoned off by yellow tape and guarded by police, some in helmets and carrying riot shields, with bystanders shouting at them in a tense standoff.

And just like in the Michael Brown shooting, the theories of what happened have already been presented as fact:

"He only just left the house to go see his girlfriend. Maybe he started to run and they got shooting," she said, adding that she did not think her son was carrying a gun. Toni Martin — who said her son's girlfriend had told her about the shooting and brought her to the scene — told reporters Antonio had turned 18 in September and used to attend nearby Jennings High School.

As NBC observes, subsequent to the shooting on early Wednesday, an angry crowd of about 200 gathered in Berkeley near the gas station and clashed with police as a body lay covered on the ground.

"I can see about 50 cop cars, they're fighting and scuffling, the highway is blocked with cars, people are being arrested," said photographer Bradley Rayford. "Trash cans are on fire." A small fire began at a QuikTrip across the street from the Mobil but quickly went out, said John Henry, reporter with NBC affiliate KDSK. Fireworks were set off near patrol cars and in the Mobil parking lot. St Louis police said an investigation had begun into the shooting.

The clip below shows the tense situation in Berkeley which is sure to deteriorate and escalate once more:

 

 

In retrospect when we reported that "Ferguson [and other near-insolvent cities] plan to boost revenue from public-safety fines" and in the process anger locals and flare tempers even more as America's broke inner-cities scramble to fill empty coffers, as we explained in "And The Winner In The "Worst Idea At The Wrong Time" Category Is..." was precisely that. Sadly, there is no clear or easy solution to a problem that fundamentally cuts at the core of everything that is currently broken in America.

 

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Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:19 | 5587828 HamFistedIdiot
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The point is that brown was not a saint. Information like that live leak video would have interfered with the DOJ and corporate media's "messaging" intending to incite racial tension. Cloward and Piven, divide and conquer, everyone run to the gov to decide everything and keep us safe. No one should focus on the banksters, the eugenics operation that is gmo/chemtrails, etc. The problem is that cop who used the N-word. People need to see that the world is shades of grey -- and try to move beyond our tribalism. But Common Core seeks to ensure we believe only what are told. Like that Bush Jr. strategist Rove told a group of journalists: We tell you what reality is, and then you go out and report that. 

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:58 | 5588153 Boxed Merlot
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the DOJ and corporate media's "messaging" intending to incite racial tension...

 

Picking up where Charlie Manson left off.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:35 | 5587876 messystateofaffairs
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Doesen't fit the script, so it can't go on the teevee, would be offensive to the zionist agenda. If that was really Michael Brown, there goes any sympathy at all for him, he got what he richly deserved. Did the grand jury see that clip?

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 11:32 | 5588285 Cloud9.5
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Just lost sympathy for the man.  Karma is a bitch.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 18:25 | 5589644 Abaco
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How do we know that was Mike Brown?  There was only a quick glimpse at his face.  How is this video documented?

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 11:41 | 5588333 Hey Assholes
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I hate thugs.

.45 acp looking for a home.

Gun up people.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 08:34 | 5587742 Fullmoonisnear
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If that IS the mother in the pic, she doesn't look too upset.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 08:47 | 5587768 negative rates
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Their a copywrite on that image, you'll hear from my lawyer tomorrow.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:00 | 5587800 GetZeeGold
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Remember that Dad laughing before the press conference at Sandy Hook.....weird huh?

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:22 | 5587837 negative rates
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The mother waiting in the hotel room for her fix was even weirder.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:25 | 5587849 SAT 800
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What she looks like is a Chimpanzee with a coat on.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:59 | 5587955 surf0766
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She countn'  Sharpton cash already

Made for tv movie bout that good boy

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:39 | 5588088 Monty Burns
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Surprised?  She just trademarked her son's name and has a new line of T-shirts on the way.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 08:35 | 5587748 Martin Silenus
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I'm dreaming of a white Christmas...oh, wait.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 08:43 | 5587764 muleskinner
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No mother should have to fear for her son's life every time he robs a store.

I didn't make it up, somebody else did and I saw the photo.

Don't pull a gun on any police officer, you just might get shot.  They have guns and the law is on their side.

I guess if you want to find out the hard way, be my guest.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 08:59 | 5587776 Jethro
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Adiós Dindu...

"He was an aspiring rapper"

"He was an honor student"

"He was about to turn his life around"

"My baby Dindu Nuffin"

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:39 | 5588092 pupdog1
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Hands up, dindu nuffin! 

ROFL.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 08:52 | 5587780 effendi
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Can they get someone to proof read for Tyler. The headline has him as an 18 year old teen. Last time I checked all 18 year olds are teens. Or are there 8 year old teens and 28 year old teens and teens has lost its meaning?

As for the shooting I'd like to see the footage from  the petrol stations security cameras and/or the dash cam footage before calling this a righteous shooting by the cop. 

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 08:58 | 5587796 spinone
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Lets watch our terms.  18 years old is a man.  And 18 year old black man with a gun was shot by police.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:28 | 5587858 quasimodo
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No see, that is where you are wrong. An 18 year old black is a teen, any other color is an adult, man or woman.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:45 | 5587901 Ahoy Polloi
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An 18 yo male is a 'gelding' (when it comes to the 15-17 yo girl market). Unless you're a Mormon I suppose.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:04 | 5587971 Shitgum Suicide
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According to Obamacare you a child until 26 so technically speaking he's a young folk.
Hey I think I just found a way to get rid of racism. Instead of referring to our colored citizens as black, African American, negro or those people we can just call them "folks".
If someone says that's racist just tell them that O'cunt was it all the time so it can't be raycissss!

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 08:58 | 5587797 Shitgum Suicide
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There needs to be a teevee anchor or reporter that needs to go rogue and live on air start to ask these same questions we are. No PC reporting just stats that show the truth of the problem in these neighborhoods and that most police are doing their jobs lawfully.
I hate corrupt police but most are trying to do the best they can. You try dealing with some of these people day in and day out and see how merry you will be when some kid pulls a gun on you or charges you after strong arm robbing a store.
The media needs to be called out and shamed into reporting the facts instead of this community organizer/ cloward piven shit.
I hope they choke on their tofurkey and candied cous cous with braised kale.
May you "progressive" Marxist cunts be raped by all 8 of Santas reindeer.
Followed by the blood orgy from the Christmas critters.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:56 | 5588151 Jager06
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<--- Want to see the results

<--- DOnt want to see the results

 

Be the change you are looking for.

 

I am building a small video recording studio. I will let you know when its done and we are posting the results of this line of questioning.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:52 | 5587801 madcows
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clearly all the black thug gangbangers aren't killing each other fast enough, b/c there are still so many around to start fights with cops.

Funny, the cops that were murdered by a black guy in retaliation for mike brown, WERE ASIAN AND LATINO!

This isn't about racism.  This is about hood-linism.  The black culture that pervades the hood breeds these goons.  The Al Sharptons and CNN's of the world just try to make a buck off of it.  The problem is, the marginally informed semi-thinkers watch this shit on tv and get all worked up over it.  They nod their heads in agreement as the duplicitous anchor emphasizes the "injustice".

 

Really, injustice?  A f-ing black thug goon had an altercation with a cop and got shot?  Quick, let's all pass judgement before the facts are heard.  Repeat after me:  Racism!  Racism!  Racism!

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:01 | 5587804 Rootin' for Putin
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great, now i get to spend my christmas eve adding #notheydont to a whole bunch of tweets again.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:11 | 5587812 himaroid
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Urban heat will be cheap and plentiful this winter. 

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:24 | 5587842 GetZeeGold
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Yeah.....if winter ever gets here.

 

I think it's suppose to hit Europe first.....but I'm not exactly sure of the details.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:11 | 5587814 rwe2late
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 So,

the more general question

is how much has the blowback of the overseas empire come home?

 

How many of the cops are veterans of Iraq & Afghanistan

and habituated to the harsh tactics of invasion and long occupation,

and suspicion of "hostiles" and self-protective "shoot first" mentality.

Couple that with the steady erosion of rights because of "drug wars" and "long wars",

along with the steady increase of policing and enforcement  powers.

 

Are we all becoming occupied Iraqis and Afghans, all treated as hostile suspects,

labeled good "Injuns" or bad "Injuns", with the only good Injun safely being a ...

 

 

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:25 | 5587850 Jethro
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I disagree with your asessment.  The die was cast in 2008 by the Obama regime in the DHS document that stated veterans were potential domestic terrorists. The federal government provides the funding and training to an increasingly militarized police force.  

Regarding Iraq and Afghanistan.  Our opponents there were illiterate goat molesters, and it still took the military years to put the genie back in the bottle.  Imagine a nation of conservative, well educated veterans with combat experience grow tired of watching their country go to shit.  There is no putting that genie back in the bottle.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:32 | 5587868 smacker
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"Are we all becoming occupied Iraqis and Afghans, all treated as hostile suspects,"

Yes. As a Brit, for decades I see the government behave more like a "Governor" of Britain. It's little different to the days of Empire - governors were parachuted in to run an occupied country and they kept themselves apart from the majority of locals.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:14 | 5587816 insanelysane
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Someone called Obama about this but they got his out of office message saying that he'll take a look when he gets back sometime in January.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:18 | 5587827 aliki
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laws need to change so that the cops can go on strike. once they do that nation-wide, this shit will stop. kid was pointing a gun at the cop. guess thats not enough to justify the officer's actions. then again, facts don't matter to some people. lets just wave our middle fingers, throw shit at the cops, and burn some shit down. completely insane & upside-down world we're living in. good thing we have solid leadership. not sure where we'd be or where we'd be heading if we didn't.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 18:28 | 5589653 Abaco
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The laws need to be changed so the cops can't have a union and every time a cop shoots someone it is investigated by a civilian board of review - not by cocksucking prosecutors who see their job as covering for bad cops.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:23 | 5587840 NoWayJose
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The problem is not that "If you point a gun at police you should expect to be shot - it's that "If you point a gun at police you should expect to be shot 14 times".

We NEVER hear about ANYONE being WOUNDED? Or is that unworthy of headlines?

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:41 | 5587889 SAT 800
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Personally, t he only reason i'd shoot you 14 times, assuming I had a double stack handgun magazine with 14 capacity, is if I forgot to leave t he 15th. one up the spout; and I never do.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:09 | 5587983 Civilizedworm
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There is no such thing as shoot to wound. There is no just shoot somebody once, pulling the trigger either once, or 20 times makes no difference the intent is to kill. Im surprised at how few people know the three basic gun safety rules. 1. Treat every gun as if it is loaded. 2. Never point a gun at someone UNLESS YOU INTEND TO KILL THEM. 3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you are ready to fire. If a cop pulls a gun, or anyone for that matter, it is because they have decided to use lethal force, full stop. 

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:15 | 5588001 Monty Burns
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Yeah, that's right.  The cops should shoot the gun right out of their hand, just like they do in cowboy films.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:25 | 5587844 Jano
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Perfect behavior of us cops being trained in Israel by israeli instructors.

they want to have a civil war, those cops.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:26 | 5587851 NoWayJose
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The FBI has 'proof' that North Korea is behind the shooting!

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:26 | 5587855 vegas
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Guess what happens when you point any kind of gun [toy, real, or otherwise] at a cop? Well, this kid found out. As to be expected, the MSM will race-bait and hyper-ventilate this incident into orbit because it fits their narrative of all cops are racist; "quick, let's go live to NY where Sharpton is for his comment" and things will go out-of-control from there.

 

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Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:11 | 5587981 Monty Burns
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Actually I have a suspicion the MSM and the race hustlers won't make such an issue of this.  I think it's beginning to dawn on them that they've poked the Sleeping White Giant once too often and that he's stirring uneasily.  Just look at on-line comments across the political spectrum (even after moderation by some SJW excuse for a journalist) and you'll see White people's patience is running thin.

Time will tell..........

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:41 | 5588096 Kobe Beef
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The Dindu Apocalypse continues. Negro Fatigue gathers apace.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:30 | 5587862 fredster51
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gun up, don't shoot!

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:31 | 5587867 Rootin' for Putin
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all of these vine videos make more sense with this soundtrack in the background
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x5ZRAVXxr8

 

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:33 | 5587872 loregnum
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Here we go again. So if the gun story is true then yeah, racism! Apparently blackies think blacks should be allowed to point guns at cops and basically do ANYTHING criminal and not get dealt with. What a bunch of complete idiots.

I say they free all blacks in jail who were convicted of violent crimes because hey, racism is why they are in there. 

 

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 12:01 | 5588429 Buster Cherry
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I remember watching a NatGeo show that featured baboons. What I noticed is that of the primates, they seem to have the thieving, violent, thuggish behavior thoroghly ingrained in their genetic makeup.

Then I see and hear of the behaviors of the negroes on the news,  COPS, and with our own Houston congresswoman Shiela Jackson Lee (SheeJack) and I realize the fact that they are tbe human versions of baboons.

They will ALWAYS have a  chip on their shoulder.

They will ALWAYS view the other races as oweing them something.

They will ALWAYS be the.victim no matter how many times those fuckers rape, rob and kill.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:34 | 5587875 roadhazard
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Good thing the cop had his camera on... ?

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:41 | 5587890 orangegeek
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...and the moral of the story is don't point a gun at a cop

 

barry's lesson...all cops should hug armed thugs that are ready to shoot

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:45 | 5587905 Peruserdude
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Grand theft Auto..... Life immitating art??

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:11 | 5587915 Monty Burns
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Another gentle giant perforated?

Dang spoiled ma whole Christmas.

Just for the record, he was a good boy, turning his life around, Honor Student (a recognition rigorously confined to the top 99%), an aspiring rapper, and he dindoonuffin.  Noamsane?

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:55 | 5587930 Peruserdude
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On a more positive vibe, at least there won't be a heating crisis in the ghetto if they've got burning building's too keep them warm this winter.

Nothing like a one hundred meter dash past a burning seven-eleven to keep you nice and toasty.

 

Going long matches, marshmellows and fireworks.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:52 | 5587932 Last of the Mid...
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Funny thing about cop cameras, they show what actually happened. bummer.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:54 | 5587945 homiegot
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Another mother's angel.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 09:55 | 5587946 gcjohns1971
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One point of view says that maybe this 18-year-old was actually pointing a gun at a policeman, that these were officers of the Law who are mostly good men despite a few bad apples, that the Legal system itself is not directly connected to and influenced by the Police, and that we should suspend judgement of what happened until we hear from a Grand Jury who is both able and willing to make a fair judgement.

Another point of view is that the Grand Jury process has been corrupted, that the 'Legal' system is just theater to lend legitimacy to the arbitrary decisions of a few, and that this exploitative system is inflexible for the purpose of reserving unlimited power to a privileged few.

The first problem is that the first viewpoint presumes the system is honest without actually examining whether it really is while the second view does the opposite.

The second problem is that these views necessarily place those who hold the opposite view into armed camps where each sees the other's position as totally illegitimate.

The third problem is that there is a significant amount of truth in both views.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:45 | 5588113 Kobe Beef
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The fourth problem is the presence of Africans on the North American continent, who are only going to cause more problems.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:02 | 5587963 bigrooster
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Good news, one more dead thug.  Who the hell points a gun at a cop for any reason and does not expect to get shot?  

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:31 | 5588059 besnook
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exactly why the officers' storyt doesn't fit.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 11:17 | 5588236 william114085
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blacks' behaviors are dictated by logic?  At age 18, they'll shoot up a house full of strangers even though it means the rest of their lives in prison.....that kind of logic?

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:07 | 5587980 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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18-Year-Old Black Teen Shot Dead By Police In St. Louis Gas Station

Again !? You Americans are never bored as I see...

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:15 | 5588008 ThisIsBob
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I'd like the point-a-gun story confirmed by somebody other than the police.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:51 | 5588128 bardot63
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Maybe youi can get a confirmation from Mr. Hands Up.  He'd be a geat witness.  Think about it---the last thing a Missouri cop wants on Christmas Eve to do is end uip like Darren Wilson -- living in witness protection somewhere beause His Imamship and Eric Holder and Al Sharpton want to make some race-baiting symbol out of him.  Yeah, the kid pulled a gun, and the kid got shot, because today, that's what stupid kids do, black or white. 

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:23 | 5588032 ncdirtdigger
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If you are going to put your hands up, drop the gun first homey.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:36 | 5588085 Seize Mars
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First, do you really want to let the "authorities" disarm you when this is how it's going to be?

So who is behind gun control anyways?

http://thezog.wordpress.com/who-is-behind-gun-control/

Just a message to the tyrants: you will never, ever disarm Americans. It ain't happening. Sorry.

On a related note, who did 911?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S10Aotp_tvo&feature=youtu.be

(It's lengthy, about an hour and a half. Please take the time to watch it. You will be just as convinced as I am.)

I'll give you a hint: it's the same people who attacked and murdered Americans on the USS Liberty.

The truth will set you free.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 11:10 | 5588211 Monty Burns
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If the general public learns the truth about 9/11 I believe nothing will be the same again.  Not just that the guilty ones will be brought to justice but the realization that such a monstrosity could be carried out by Americans and so-called allies, while others were successfully blamed, will be enough for ordinary Americans to start taking the Red Pill in large numbers.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 18:03 | 5589599 Seize Mars
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Enough of us are catching on.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 10:44 | 5588103 pupdog1
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Coming home from late night choir practice is getting to be quite dangerous for young black males.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 11:25 | 5588259 robertocarlos
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Cut off the welfare and EBT. Let the shit hit the fan and then make a new plan, Stan. Maybe get rid of the cops. They aren't helping.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 13:08 | 5588660 hangemhigh77
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Yea, I won't dispute whatyou say however there is more. You want to talk about "welfare"? Well here's REAL welfare:

 

Warren Buffet  $550 BILLION bailout

GE - $500 BILLION Tax REFUND!!!!

Google - Pays 1% in tax

Mobil Oil pays 0% in tax

John Corzine - Steals 1.9 BILLION, buys a French Chalet

28 TRILLION to FOREIGN BANKS...that's YOUR tax money.

5 BILLION to Ukraine for WHAT? While the EBT card holders in Detroit have their water turned off.

Cops? Cops are the agents of a corrupt state enforcing illegitimate and un Constitutional lwas designed to fund the corrupt states operations and illicit wars for corporate profit. GET RID OF COPS AND ARM THE PEOPLE. HANG ALL TRAITORS.

 

Welfare? The welfare YOU refer to, EBT, etc are the CRUMBS these bastards throw us and then demonize the poor people and laugh as we scratch each other's eyes out.

 

Any bank that says they paid back the bailout they got is a LIAR. They were given FREE money which instead of loaning it (usery anyway) to the people to spur the economy, they took the FREE money and bought Treasuries with it getting paid interest. So they were given our money which they then LOANED BACK TO US AT INTEREST. That sounds like THEFT to me.  They didn't pay back SHIT.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 17:24 | 5589502 falconflight
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Why would the Regime cut off their voter's EBT?  

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 11:28 | 5588270 falconflight
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Black cowards.  If they had an ounce of manhood or humanity, they'd invade whitey's domain.  Not to worry.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 11:56 | 5588415 hangemhigh77
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Actually the "black cowards" are now giving as good as they get.  A cop approches a black person a little different than he does a white person.  That is a FACT. As far as this being a race issue, yeah there's some of that BUT the REAL issue is the use of corrupt power against the people BLACK AND WHITE.  Cops are NOTHING MORE than AGENTS OF A CORRUPT STATE who are robbing the people for personal and state monetary gain through the use of VIOLENCE. They are funding their budgets, pensions, Christmas parties, cars etc thorugh ROBBING and BRUTALIZING the people, ALL people.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 12:29 | 5588525 HamFistedIdiot
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Are you here to incite violence? You paint with too broad a brush, I think. Cops, formerly known as Peace Officers, provide an important function to society. But the drug war, a corrupt political system, and many wrong headed laws on the books force the cops to do TPTB's dirty work. The USA's purposeful economic and cultural demise has created a poor, ignornant, thug-loving (both black and white) population. The evil deeds done by cops these days is as much a reflection of the public's having lost control of its governance than anything else. There still are some good cops, but their numbers are dwindling, as are the number of good doctors and every other sector of society. Evil/greed/selfishness/ignorance is taking hold. This is probably a fire that needs to burn itself out before much can be done. Too many vested interests (think Obama, Soros, Rothschilds, Holder, etc.).

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 12:44 | 5588579 hangemhigh77
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No, I'm here to talk about the FACTS. If you do not believe that the police are nothing more than agents of a corrupt state enforcing illegititmate "laws" that are unConstitutional designed with the sole purpose of fundingn their entire corrupt system, then you don't know what's going on. "Peace" officers were created to do "Investigative" work regarding crime, not to carry guns and collect revenue for the state. But, that is what they have become and they are using state sanctioned VIOLENCE to do it. I don't know about you but when someone punches me in the face I don't ASK them to stop.  And I submit to you that there are NO good cops. Why? Because they are COMPLICIT in the crimes of their peers. The same way the driver of the getaway car is guilty of capital murder when someone gets shot during the commission of a a crime so too are the "good" cops when they say NOTHING as their peers go and commit HORRIBLE crimes against the people. Cops do NOT serve the people, they serve the corporations. JPM pays NYPD 3 million to beat protesters at the Occuly Wall Street protests, and they earned their money.  Police are the Capos that live among us, they rob and brutalize their very neighbors to fund the state and produce monetary gain for themselves, simply they are TRAITORS and should ALL be hanged.  

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 12:55 | 5588613 HamFistedIdiot
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I'll defer to your judgment on this. You're probably right. I have family in the military overseas. I often think, if something bad happens to them, they had it coming. There is no moral basis for US activity in most of these engagement zones. If a Cop were a moral person, then perhaps he shouldn't have donned the blue uniform to begin with. But I am not willing to say they are all traitors, nor will I shoot first. But as the noose tightens on the population here in the US, we'll see what happens and if my feelings change. Thank you for sharing your strong opinions. They have a solid basis.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 12:43 | 5588580 hangemhigh77
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No, I'm here to talk about the FACTS. If you do not believe that the police are nothing more than agents of a corrupt state enforcing illegititmate "laws" that are unConstitutional designed with the sole purpose of fundingn their entire corrupt system, then you don't know what's going on. "Peace" officers were created to do "Investigative" work regarding crime, not to carry guns and collect revenue for the state. But, that is what they have become and they are using state sanctioned VIOLENCE to do it. I don't know about you but when someone punches me in the face I don't ASK them to stop.  And I submit to you that there are NO good cops. Why? Because they are COMPLICIT in the crimes of their peers. The same way the driver of the getaway car is guilty of capital murder when someone gets shot during the commission of a a crime so too are the "good" cops when they say NOTHING as their peers go and commit HORRIBLE crimes against the people. Cops do NOT serve the people, they serve the corporations. JPM pays NYPD 3 million to beat protesters at the Occuly Wall Street protests, and they earned their money.  Police are the Capos that live among us, they rob and brutalize their very neighbors to fund the state and produce monetary gain for themselves, simply they are TRAITORS and should ALL be hanged.  

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 14:23 | 5589023 knotjammin2
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You don't know the facts!

 

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 17:22 | 5589500 falconflight
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I'll agree to hanging all the police, if all those in academia, have to bury those dead before they are themselves invited into the mass pit.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 12:31 | 5588540 Vin
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@hangemhigh77Don't know what you mean by "black cowards", but the rest of your post is very true.  The federal militarization of the local and state police is the second step in the plan, and it's working. 

If we want this crap to stop we have to reign in the feds NOW and more importantly get control of the money flow.  That's the key.  Instead of the feds providing funding to the states, we need to go back to pre-tax amendment days whereby the states funded the feds and also controlled the Senate.

He who controls the money control the nation.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 12:54 | 5588608 hangemhigh77
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That's right, BURN DOWN THE FED and HANG EVERY BANKSTER AND POLITICIAN that sold us out. THAT IS THE LAW, THE CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. OUR FOREFATHERS WERE NOT STUPID PEOPLE, THEY KNEW THAT TO HAVE GREAT POWER GIVEN BY THE PEOPLE was a RESPONSIBILITY and a COVENANT that was SO inportant that if VIOLATED and was deemed TREASON was punishable by DEATH. Why? So it WOULD'T HAPPEN AGAIN!!!!  Oboner said when he was elected, let's look forward and not look back.  WRONG. You must look back and see who was a TRAITOR, then you HANG them. The Reason is simple, so the NEXT GUY that holds that power UNDERSTANDS the power was GIVEN to him BY THE PEOPLE and if violated it can be taken away as well and you will PAY WITH YOUR LIFE for violating that trust.  That way there would be NO Federal Reserve. There would be no JAMIE DIMONS, and the cops would SERVE THE PEOPLE. These cops are TRAITORS and every damn one of them sould be hanged along with their captains and the Town Supervisors and right up the line. The Federal Government was established to do two things, secure our borders and declare war on foreign entities that TRULY threaten us, THAT'S IT. It has grown into this blind eveil monter that frankly needs to be put down like a rabid dog, it cannot be fixed at this point it's like a rotten apple all you can do is throw it away.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 12:53 | 5588609 hangemhigh77
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That's right, BURN DOWN THE FED and HANG EVERY BANKSTER AND POLITICIAN that sold us out. THAT IS THE LAW, THE CONSTITUTIONAL LAW. OUR FOREFATHERS WERE NOT STUPID PEOPLE, THEY KNEW THAT TO HAVE GREAT POWER GIVEN BY THE PEOPLE was a RESPONSIBILITY and a COVENANT that was SO inportant that if VIOLATED and was deemed TREASON was punishable by DEATH. Why? So it WOULD'T HAPPEN AGAIN!!!!  Oboner said when he was elected, let's look forward and not look back.  WRONG. You must look back and see who was a TRAITOR, then you HANG them. The Reason is simple, so the NEXT GUY that holds that power UNDERSTANDS the power was GIVEN to him BY THE PEOPLE and if violated it can be taken away as well and you will PAY WITH YOUR LIFE for violating that trust.  That way there would be NO Federal Reserve. There would be no JAMIE DIMONS, and the cops would SERVE THE PEOPLE. These cops are TRAITORS and every damn one of them sould be hanged along with their captains and the Town Supervisors and right up the line. The Federal Government was established to do two things, secure our borders and declare war on foreign entities that TRULY threaten us, THAT'S IT. It has grown into this blind eveil monter that frankly needs to be put down like a rabid dog, it cannot be fixed at this point it's like a rotten apple all you can do is throw it away.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 12:57 | 5588627 hangemhigh77
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The "black cowards" comment was in reference to the comment I was answering.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 17:18 | 5589494 falconflight
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I said black cowards.  Just what I said...let them strike at the root of their so called grievance, white America.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 11:35 | 5588292 esum
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BLACK "LEADER" SPEAKS IN BALTIMORE....

calls for MURDER

says GOD DAMN AMERICA

IF WE LOSE 10 MILLIL HAVE 10 MILLION WHO GET THE BENEFITS...

NO PEACEFUL PROTEST... 

he got it in NYC.... was the murderer in the audience... black mulim..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97Y9FjtQ5Wc

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 11:38 | 5588301 yellowsub
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That one is labeled camera 29, so that store has a lot of cameras and I can't imagine there's not another one on the other end pointing toward the opposite direction.

What's the excuse for not wearing a body camera and wouldn't the dash cam be recording?  

 

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 11:43 | 5588336 robertocarlos
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I watched the video. Why are 6 blacks pouncing on the cop car when it pulls up? Kid deserved what he got even if he didn't deserve it.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 11:51 | 5588385 hangemhigh77
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The answer to that is "why did 20 cops beat a 20 year old 130 lb homeless kid to death?" You're looking for reason in an insane world. However, I will say, the cops started this.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 11:46 | 5588368 hangemhigh77
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If you're going to pull a gun on a donut eating cop at LEAST be faster than them and shoot.  Geez, to let a retarded cop beat you to the drop is embarrassing. 

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 11:52 | 5588374 Cloud9.5
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Re Falcon: It would appear that the oligarchs that control the message are pushing for that very thing.  What amazes me is that these idiots regardless of their agenda must assume the chaos can be controlled. Hitler in his glory days never imagined that he would wind up in a bunker with a pistol in his mouth while the Russian Army raped his women.  So much for his selective breeding program and the master race.

 

This is not 1860.  The national infrastructure is too complex and because of that complexity too fragile to withstand even a regional race war. The Hutus reduced the Rwandan population by 20% in about a hundred days.  They did it with three dollar Chinese machetes.

 

 

We do not want this.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 12:02 | 5588399 hangemhigh77
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I agree with everything you say, however, we didn't start the fire they did. When a bully is sitting on your chest punching you in the face there is NOTHING you can say to make him stop. The ONLY thing that works is the use of force against the bully. THAT'S where we are now, people percieve cops in a different light these days, a CORRECT light.  Cops are nothing more than agents of a corrupt state enforcing unConstitutional "laws" with state sanctioned VIOLENCE.  Tyranny - When those that create and enforce the "law" are they themselves exempt from it.  When the social contract is broken the people must revolt. The answer? BURN DOWN THE FEDERAL RESERVE and hang EVERY POLITICIAN AND BANKSTER for TREASON. Same with the cops, they have defikled their oath they are TRAITORS to the people, HANG them.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 12:09 | 5588467 FrankDrakman
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When they kick out your front door
How you gonna come?
With your hands on your head
Or on the trigger of your gun

When the law break in
How you gonna go?
Shot down on the pavement
Or waiting in death row

You can crush us
You can bruise us
But you'll have to answer to
Oh, Guns of Brixton

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 17:13 | 5589481 falconflight
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Doubleplusgood post.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 12:03 | 5588407 ThisIsBob
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JQC!  Seems like most here (and elsewhere) believe the nice policeman's story already.  Why in the rolling fuck would you believe a cop on anything without corroboration?

Because the dead dude is black?

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 11:55 | 5588412 LetsGetPhysical
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Exactly how is the even "news"? If he did indeed pull out a gun then it's game over. Suicide by Cop. Somebody explain to me how we're supposed to handle these "young black males"? Just let them rob, rape and loot? Because we feel sorry for them? So, they have absolutely no responsibility for their own actions? WTF was this motherfucker doing that he needed to pull out a gun on s cop?

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 12:07 | 5588452 me or you
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We are witnessing an "ethnic cleansing" across the Nation.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 12:14 | 5588481 Bagbalm
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No idea if I didn't see it. Unfortunately I can't believe either side. They all lie. They still don't have body cams do they? Could be the kid drew on him - could be the cop had a throw down. I wish I could give the cop the benefit of the doubt. But they have pissed that credibility away.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 12:24 | 5588524 Vin
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Another innocent "victim" of police brutality.  Burn down the city!

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 12:34 | 5588547 steelrules
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There are reports of witnesses who say he was not armed, that the gun found miraculously appeared after police showed up.

Just reporting what I've read, there should be enough video of this to prove it one way or another.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 13:01 | 5588634 22winmag
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Throwdown

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 16:23 | 5589378 Bumbu Sauce
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These animals were trying to execute an ambush on the police officer.  THe idiot obama's son didn't know how to operate the safety on his illegally carried serial-number filed off handgun.  All of this is being fomented by those who wish us to be poorer and less free.  They are exploiting perceived grievances from genuine ignoramuses.

Wed, 12/24/2014 - 17:13 | 5589483 falconflight
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Race war in America would be genocide for the blacks. Surely, they don't want that, do they?

Thu, 12/25/2014 - 09:44 | 5590685 Monty Burns
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...and then there would be no blacks.  What......a........terrible......thought...

What would we do?

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