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Putin: It Is Time To Play Your Ace In The Hole

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Submitted by Ron Holland via The Daily Bell,

You've got to know when to hold 'em
Know when to fold 'em
Know when to walk away
And know when to run
You never count your money
When you're sittin' at the table
There'll be time enough for countin'
When the dealin's done.

"The Gambler" by Kenny Rogers

The entire world is watching Putin play poker with the Western politicians lead by Obama and followed by Washington quislings in London, Brussels and Berlin. America's goal since the end of the Cold War has been to weaken by financial, economic and, if necessary, military means any real competition to its global financial and resource domination through the petrodollar and dollar world reserve currency status.

The current trade and economic sanctions against Russia and Iran follow this time-tested action that is never successful on its own, as we know from the 50-plus-year blockade of Cuba. But this strategy can lead to opposition nations retaliating by military means, often their only alternative to end blockades etc., which are an act of war and allow the US and other democracies to bring their ultimate superior military power to bare against the offending sovereign state. This worked for Lincoln against the Confederate States of America, by Woodrow Wilson against the Central Powers before World War One, against the Japanese Empire before World War Two, Iraq, Libya – the list is endless.

Recently the US has created the oil price collapse, working closely with its client state Saudi Arabia, in order to weaken the economic power of both Iran and Russia, the two main nations opposing US hegemony, foreign policy and petrodollar policy. Yes, this will play havoc with the US shale oil industry as well as London's North Sea oil industry but oil profits pale in comparison to the importance of maintaining Western power over Russia and China.

I hope Putin realizes the US is not playing games here, as this is a financial and strategic game to the death for Washington and it's Western allies that have foolishly followed the Goldman Sachs/central banking cartel's deadly sovereign debt recipe and for growth and prosperity. The time is up; the debts can never be repaid and sooner or later must be repudiated one way or the other.

China is waiting in the wings as the new world economic power and while it is too big to challenge, US strategy is to take out its top two allies, Iran and Russia, to buy time for Wall Street and Washington. The strategy might be a competitive economic course of action but the risk of military consequences and even a third world war loom on the horizon and no country has ever defeated Russia in a land attack. This is risky brinkmanship just to protect our banking and Wall Street elites and their profits at the expense of the American people, I might add, but the US has done this before.

Is This Just a Repeat of the Versailles Treaty, Russian-style?

This has all happened before. It's the same old game with different players. I fear we are watching a repeat of the Versailles Treaty, Russian-style. If you look closely at real history rather than the establishment-directed propaganda dished out to the public, you'll realize that the Western financial elites and central banking cartel seldom change tactics. Why should they? Their financial empires continue to grow during all major wars and financial crises and if they should guess wrong, then they get taxpayers to bail them out.

The Goldman Sachs, Rothschild and Soros types control the Western democracies as well as the financial markets and use paid or blackmailed cheerleaders and front men to advance their best interests to the populace as acceptable economic or political policies.

For example, Woodrow Wilson's Fourteen Points statement given on January 8, 1918, claiming the war and US intervention was a moral cause to advance peace in Europe after World War One, was one of the leading reasons the Germans sued for peace. In hindsight, we know that American intervention was really instituted to prevent an Allied loss or negotiated settlement that could make it impossible for French and British banks to pay back their massive loans to the US banking establishment and thereby bankrupting our leading banks of the day.

Once the war was over the platitudes about freedom, self-determination and making the world safe for democracy dissolved into the Treaty of Versailles, probably one of the most vengeful and unfair peace treaties ever forced on a defeated foe. The entire Austrian-Hungarian empire was totally destroyed except for the small area of present Austria and Germany, which was stripped of much of its territory and subjected to a vengeful, unpayable war debt comparable to America's current national debt today. Sadly, the treaty created the public anger and economic chaos that eventually brought Hitler to power and set the stage for the Second World War.

So Where Does Russia Go from Here?

First, the US cable pundits are suggesting that Putin might retaliate by invading Ukraine. Why would Russia want Ukraine? Except for substantial agricultural resources that can be purchased on the open market, this is a bankrupt country with a long list of failed governments. The country has become a pawn in the battle between East and West, and its people have already suffered so much. Now Russia might move in the East to protect Russian-speaking areas and could be willing to suffer the additional economic consequences of creating a land bridge to Crimea but the military option appears quite limited and counter-productive at best.

No nation will win a shooting war between the US, UK and EU versus Russia and China. The consequences are too horrible to be contemplated but Russia has an ace in the hole that can win the financial and economic battle going on today.

First, Russia should join with China in a new gold, oil and natural resource backed monetary union as an alternative to the failed debt democracy model pushed by Wall Street, the central bank cartel and self-serving politicians in the West. It simply does not work in the long term to finance prosperity and improved standards of living through mountains of debt placed on future generations.

Washington has destroyed every tax haven and bit of personal and financial privacy in the world because of its desperate need for revenue. Every financial haven has caved, including Switzerland, because they cannot hope to prevail against the US, UK and EU. The US intends to make Russia a pariah state and cut it off from trade, funds transfer, banking and Western credit markets. It will not relent until Putin is overthrown and Russia is compliant with and a supporter of the New World Order. Next in line following Russia will be China. Thus, a monetary union could provide the needed support for Russia necessary to guarantee the independence and self-determination of China.

Second, Russia should act offensively rather than defensively on the financial front by creating corporate tax-free/low income tax zones and welcoming corporations, successful individuals and entrepreneurs to take up residence and create jobs and prosperity. The Hong Kong model does work to create industry, service industry and free-market prosperity and to win, Russia needs far more than a resource-based economy.

Russia needs more population and a larger middle class and should offer residency and citizenship opportunities to productive and successful workers, entrepreneurial businesses and corporations etc. with the right of reasonable financial and corporate privacy along with the low tax benefits.

Canada, the wonderful country I live and work in today, offers permanent residency benefits and citizenship to hundreds of thousands of foreigners wanting to work and immigrate to Canada together with low corporate tax benefits.

Russia can and should do the same, although the market will require bargain prices as Russia does not have the long history of rule of law, security and peace like Canada does. Russia should look at good climate areas like Crimea and other areas around the Black Sea and maybe Kaliningrad in the north directly in the middle of the EU.

Competititon, free markets, minimal regulation and low taxes are the 21st century solution to military aggression, over-indebted and resource-hungry empires. Putin said it best in his news conference last week.

"They won't leave [the bear] alone. They will always seek to chain it. And once it's chained, they'll rip out its teeth and claws. The nuclear deterrence, speaking in present-day terms. As soon as this happens, nobody will need [the bear] anymore. They'll stuff it. And start to put their hands on its Taiga [Siberian forest belt] after it. We've heard statements from Western officials that Russia's owning Siberia was not fair." – Vladimir Putin

Vladimir Putin, now is the time to play your ace in the hole. Russia can win the financial and economic war being waged against it but not by playing the same old game of poker where cheating prevails. Show the world that Russia is worthy of 21st century leadership in a peaceful and competitive manner by using the debt, currency and banking weaknesses of the West to defeat an opponent out to chain Russia as it has the rest of the world into surrender and serfdom.

If you are as concerned as I am about where the world is headed, consider securing a second home internationally in the right location as a means to protect you and your family. Think of it as lifestyle insurance.

 

 

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Sat, 12/27/2014 - 04:32 | 5595592 ZH Snob
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I'm not worried what russia or china want to do me, I'm far more concerned about the plans of my own government.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 10:09 | 5595908 Martian Moon
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Neither the Russian nor the Chinese leadership can be described as Malthusian Genocidal Satanists

Our leaders in the West actually do want us and any progeny we may have, dead

They don't just want all our marbles, they want us dead

Let that sink in for a while

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:24 | 5595271 DaveyJones
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no one is claiming anyone is clean. no one ever has been or ever will be. It's just like natural systems, including capital and democratic. Multiple competitors is always better than one pretending to guide (and save) the rest. So why wouldn't americans want an outside source (or sources) to help set back our thieves and murderers. whether you want it or not, history tends to do that  

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:37 | 5595308 LetThemEatRand
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The U.S., Russian and Chinese government are mobsters looking to consolidate power.  They all consider the people they rule to be pawns in their game.  If you think that's a good thing, then have fun with it.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:51 | 5595334 DaveyJones
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you missed the point

no "animal" can or should overtake any one environment

if the the russians and the chinese gain influence in world currency, banking and trade (which they're doing anyway) then by definition, the American petrodollar loses influence. Are you suggesting it (along with its bankers) have placed us (the world, including americans) in a great positon today? 

if you don't want any of the three to play, then please show us your gameboard and how it works. 

(See kyddl's comment below)

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 09:20 | 5595859 Doom and Dust
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Stop this inane either/or fallacy. The world desperately needs a more balanced power system. and yes, that will involve more prominent roles for Russia and China. Their particular policies and politics are irrelevant to this, as is the question by which fucked up system you would rather be crushed.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:54 | 5595452 daveO
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First, they'd have to end their Central Bank, installed by the west.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT085isnyB0

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 10:44 | 5595960 Payne
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The real point of the article is that "Putin has lots of ways to play the game all of which are a problem in the US", the US has very few options, all bad yet they continue to poke the bear.

Putin is not in bed with the NWO, they are rivals gangs.  The NWO crowd is muscling in on Putins territory, of course he is going to respond.  Putin is not interested in hurting JPM, Putin likes fiat money.

He has lost his interest in the US dollar and US treasuries.  He will not go to gold or silver !  Petro Rouble maybe, but remember all those US bases in the Middle East and Africa.  US is a very stretched rubber band, all Putin needs to do is keep the Band under tension until it breaks.  That is probably in the Art of War.  CIA is supposed to operate in a clandestine manner, the more brazen the hired troops the poorer the performance.

What happens if lots of Mercs are captured in Ukraine hired by the CIA ? hmmm

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:27 | 5595138 FreeShitter
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Putin is on the payroll....NWO shill.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:57 | 5595212 Anusocracy
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References?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:37 | 5595294 LetThemEatRand
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Seriously?  There are going to be citations to this?  

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:51 | 5595353 disabledvet
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Prisoner exchanges.

Are we Ukes or Russians?  Visiting Siberia is one thing...ending up in a Gulag however...

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 07:48 | 5595757 Latina Lover
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Gulags like Guantanamo?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:24 | 5595261 DaveyJones
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"masquerading as a people's savior....fucks like Putin use propaganda"

 

Thank God no one in the west does that 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 02:48 | 5595520 suteibu
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As far as I know, Putin has never lied to me.  I can not say the same for the President of the US, a whole bunch of politically-charged, unaccountable bureaucrats, and most of the members of Congress.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 06:20 | 5595672 Self-enslavement
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Chosenites never lie. Ever. It's against their moral constitution. Lol.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:38 | 5595307 Harrison
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Totally agree, brah. Sure, Russia needed someone other than an alcoholic Yeltsin, but putting the chekist in charge was retarded. From blowing up Moscow apartments to create a casus belli to start a war in Chechnya, to invading Moldova, Georgia, and Ukraine, from poisoning or otherwise murdering reporters investigating his actions to stealing pens and rings from people he meets, Putin is simply a nyekulturny thug.

Sun, 12/28/2014 - 18:19 | 5599739 PhilofOz
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Every accusation based on what the facist oligarch mouthpiece MSM tells you is so. FFS!! Do some research and find out for yourself that at the least, some of these accusations are outright lies! Only an idiot could believe the drivel you trot out!

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:43 | 5595319 bid the soldier...
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hey, Jumbo, how are we supposed to have a debate about Putin with someone who is obviously obsessed with his boobs?  What's the deal?  Is Jumbotron starting to develop jugs and trying to divert attention from that fact?

Do you want us to start calling you Jugotron?

Or Titotron?

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 07:46 | 5595753 Nestor Makhno
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Dude, I think you're obsessed with his boobs!

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 14:17 | 5596614 bid the soldier...
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That's a whole other thread, pal.

But I'd like to see what's so jumbo about him.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 15:35 | 5596834 aiaiai
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Dude he is a chosenite.Now chosen to play with his boobs.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:24 | 5595348 Dathedr
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Wouldn't you love to see Putin go, hm, you mercenary cabal's scum? Putin isn't going anywhere, but you and you ilk are, scum! Soon the mist shall fall over the West and people there will start hunting you down, just like we shall do the same here in the Balkans where your ilk have found itself dens and nests in media, political parties, government, financial "industry" and all sorts of NGOs, scum! Vermin... your days are numbered!

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Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:35 | 5595442 roadlust
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Seriously.  Only home erotic facist lovers really love Putin.  Which explains a lot about his "admirers" here. 

 

He's a petro gangster thug with nuclear weapons and a compliant crony capitalist oligarchy.  The opposite of a "world leader."

 

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 09:16 | 5595852 where_is the_nuke
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You are right. I hate Putin. I like Kike leaders.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:50 | 5595450 Newager23
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He has a lot of ace's to play. My favorite is to play the oil card, which has a few different scenarios. The first would be to set the export price of their oil at $100 per bbl. If he did that Russian oil exports would probably drop in half immediately, but within a few months he would force the price of oil back up to at least $90 globally. Do you think I'm wrong? Consider this, Russia exports more than 15% of the global oil exports. Do you really think that the global economy can function on that drop without raising prices? If Russia is getting $100, is everyone else going to settle for $70? I don't think so. Who runs barter town? It could be Putin if he wants to.

The second scenario I like even better. He could demand that a partial payment (the tax portion) for all oil exports in gold. This would force the price of gold higher (making Russian gold reserves more valuable)  and undermine western economies buy exploiting the weakness in both the dollar and Euro. It would also allow Russia to build up their gold reserves thereby strengthening the Ruble.

Or, scenario three, which would be a combination of both!

 

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 06:24 | 5595676 Self-enslavement
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He doesn't need to export oil. Nobody needs to export oil. Every country has a printing press. They print money with it.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 02:02 | 5595482 michael777
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The game's not over yet. The wrong chess move would have been to invade and occupy Ukraine. Putin doesn't want fascists running a neighboring country (Ukraine) again, but that's the move the US and the West made. So the Ukrainian people are the pawns, but the queen is the economic system. Now he's watching Ukraine implode while countering the western economic attack against Russia. I think his brilliant chess move is yet to come. Hide and watch, but if he can dethrone the US dollar as world reserve currency, then it's checkmate, pal.

The West has given the world a choice, backed by fiat currency (dollar) hegemony and dressed up in all the propaganda that you seem to have swallowed: support fascism or else. 

 

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 06:25 | 5595677 Self-enslavement
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Fascism is a nice word for choseniteism

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 03:17 | 5595544 Ondoron
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You react like those Germans who were loyal to Hitler till 1945 - those, who didn't understand a thing. Wrong loyality, wrapped in patriotism, is for the extreme dump...

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 03:32 | 5595553 polocko
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What happened to all intellectual comments that intrigued me to be an avid reader of zero hedge for many years? Comments were spot on, factual, poignant, hysterical, and thought provoking to say the least. 

 

I was hooked from day one with great articles on HFT, trader insight, factual economic news and witty comments that were as good if not better then the article.  I almost couldn’t wait every morning to find out the latest financial conspiracy by zero hedge that was going to become proven fact. Now I pretty much just read the articles throughout the day. I can almost tell you what the comments are going to be after every article now without even reading them.  Lets start with the low IQ, little to no input, just to be a follower comments that we have to scroll through just to get to the few worth reading.

 

F--K Ben/ is now.. F—K Yellen

You can keep your insurance/ You didn’t build that/ is now, We blanked some folks.

Gold biatches and keep stacking,

Russian worshipers with keyboard warriors.

Preppers and doom and gloomers

USSA

Bankers are so evil and smart they controls the world.

 

 

Well the F—K Ben was funny for about two days.  We all know all politicians lie.

 

Now for the gold and silver stackers. Unless you’re a coin collector or have around 5% of your total assets in metal (in hand). Well, you got smoke assed in that trade over the last few years. So don’t quit your day job.  Too many of you were backing the truck up with gold at 1500 and silver around 27.  Maybe you should take over Jim Crammer’s job. It will keep going lower because you aren’t in the club.

 

The lost souls of the white night from the east.  As bad as our political system is you would hate the day he would be calling all the shots of the free world. War with Russia would last about three weeks to a month. Why, because the corruption and lack of leadership will crumble with just a few well placed missiles. Forget Nukes only America has the balls to drop them on your head. Only two things America is good at and that’s running up debt and war. We have plenty of practice and god forbid you get the American people behind any type of war.  It won’t be WW3, it will be the super bowl  featuring Kim Kardasians ass special guest dancing Danny Terrio.  War with the USA. You must be stuck on stupid.

 

Preppers and doomer, go back to infowars. It’s more your speed.

 

USSA, you don’t like it. Do something about it. Get involved. Some of you might even find your calling. Create a blog, start awareness, help a neighbor. You have enough time since you spend all day posting the same thing about police state USSA.

 

Now for my favorite, the banker’s, how smart they are and they control the world. Really. Well here is a thought. If these idiots are so smart and cunning. tell me how experts in the financial world in the own area of expertise couldn’t even organize one document to save there asses with the mortgages. They couldn’t spell original document with a legal debtors signature on it. These guys don’t know an ass from an elbow. Rigging markets, bribing officials, front running clients, and insider trading they have down.  But stop giving these bankers so much credit, Even the low IQ folks  have more complex and original thought. 

 

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 06:27 | 5595683 Self-enslavement
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The Pentagon is full of Chosenites, not idiots

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 09:26 | 5595865 Doom and Dust
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You are entitled to your comforting delusions, but don't for a moment think that bankers are idiots for crashing the housing market. There is such a thing as planned incompetence. In fact, incompetence, fraud, and managed stupidity are preferred tools since their fallout is that much more lucrative.

 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:15 | 5596242 polocko
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Yep you guessed it, AIG and all the investment banks couldn't wait to have public injetions of funds. The goal was mass implosion first to get what they wanted.  sarc

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 10:41 | 5595951 Baldrick
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member for one week three days

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:10 | 5596220 polocko
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If you don't comment for many years your account gets deleted.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 15:39 | 5596845 aiaiai
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My account can't get deleted. I am a chosenite.Now my account has ben chosen not to get deleted.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 03:30 | 5595554 123dobryden
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mate,

the enemy of my enemy is my friend...

 

so fuck you and fuck your elbow

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 03:37 | 5595559 TheReplacement
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Ask yourself, no matter how bad you think Putin is, do you really prefer our current oppressors victory instead of Putin standing up to them?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 04:06 | 5595582 polocko
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He is a puppet that will be gone in two years. Putin isn't doing anything but making his people suffer. You think he or any government gives a second thought about it's people. Money and time. That's all they care about. I don't think Putin is bad, I think he playing the cards he has been delt to the best of his ability. 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 06:29 | 5595684 Self-enslavement
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Brainwashed much?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 15:42 | 5596850 aiaiai
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Nope, chosen much.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 07:50 | 5595758 Nestor Makhno
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Not only is he running out of cards he has also bet against the house.

Sooner or later he will play his last card: Nuclear Blackmail.

Then all bets are off.....

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 08:46 | 5595820 oudinot
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Putin's got 85% approval in his country; the Russina people sure think he 'cares' about them.

You are way off the mark; unless you are a troll, then you are just doing your job.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 09:34 | 5595589 ZH Snob
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whether you like Putin or not, the choice is very simple: the BRICS are the world's only hope against the NWO.  who else can ever stop these maniacs from literally taking over the world?  it might be they already have some time ago.  I don't know.

I understand the concerns about China and Russia being in bed with the rothschild central banking.  but we won't really know until the world's economic picture becomes clearer, and as I have already said, until they toss these bankers and their ponzi scheme out for good (or not).

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 05:51 | 5595649 Frankie Carbone
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Russia has just as many vicious, sociopathic pols as we do. I think the herd is desperately looking for a leader when there just are not any to be found anywhere. 

Another idiotic case of "lesser of two evils". 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 06:31 | 5595688 Nexus789
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The 'thinkers' in Washington have obtained a result that they were presumably trying to avoid, or more likely they thought would never happen - a deep strategic alignment of Russia with China.  China is now fully supporting Russia financially and they are in the process of making Russia their primary source of oil and gas. This alignment will go beyond resources and will involve technology and industry. All they need to is wait for the Western debt system to collapse. 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 10:57 | 5595981 Thom_333
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The quality of the ZH articles have gone from somewhere between good and mediocre to rock-bottom low. This one is a shining example of something that should never have been accepted for posting.

And that begs the question I have asked before. Who´s behind ZH and what interests do they serve. Rumors have it that it´s Chinese money and interests and looking at the quality and general direction of the different missives I am beginning to become more convinced that this is true.

This disjointed....thing...totally lacking in perspective and thought (other than the CP´s perspective) fits the bill. Could equally well been placed in China Daily.

Chicoms...

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 15:30 | 5596812 englishvinal
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Oh, horse manure~!

Typical "U.S. citizen".... if the message disturbs you, then fix it... KILL the messenger.  Is it warm where you store your head?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 19:15 | 5597310 Thom_333
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No I am not - a U.S. citizen. Don´t even want to be. Lived there long time enough to qualify but when I got the first whiff of NSA and the rest during W´s second period I decided to stick to being a free man.

The U.S. citizens are the folks that twice elected George W Bush and twice elected Barrack Husein Obama.

It´s something with that endless tevee gazing and the simplified narratives that you folks are being fed almost since conception that makes you unable to discern who´s really your antagonist(s). And who are your real friends. Actuallt you could compete for Guiness Book of Records in  non-sophisticated world view. No wonder the limey intelligence is running your country for you.

The founding fathers would weep if they could see what you have turned into.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 22:51 | 5597774 GoldForCash
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No sir. The NSA along with computers elected our presidents since reagan

Sun, 12/28/2014 - 06:20 | 5598366 Thom_333
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Then DO SOMETHING about!

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 15:20 | 5596791 englishvinal
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Jumbo..... how much are you being PAID to write "balancing information" (as the govt. calls what you are doing)?....  

TROLL much?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 19:10 | 5597298 'argar the 'orrible
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Wow jumbrotron, why don't you say what you really mean, without the expletives, err, swear words to you.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 22:50 | 5597770 GoldForCash
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I can't believe we are pissing off a man that can push the big red button?
Has to play in the end game of nuclear bombs in the USA then then they take the weapons and ....oh shit never mind..

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:25 | 5595132 Amerikan Patriot
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Vlad's going to huff and he's going to puff...and then release a nasty fart.

He may also judo flip some flacid, compliant men (he prefers to flip fawning Zero Hedgers).

Are you guys in line yet?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:29 | 5595143 darkpool2
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you are either the quintessential American Idiot, or a troll.......you just added a huge fat zero to this legitimate debate

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:35 | 5595154 LetThemEatRand
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So how did Putin make his billions again?  Simple question.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:52 | 5595195 TungstenBars
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Show us his bank statement? 

 

BTW that is obvious propaganda. How embarrassing for you. 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:55 | 5595201 LetThemEatRand
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Here's an RT link.  http://rt.com/politics/forbes-putin-powerful-list-russia-465/

Are you going on record as saying that Putin does not have billions and you base your worldview on this supposed fact?

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:58 | 5595213 TungstenBars
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Forbes? That's an honest media to you? LOLLL

 

Show us his bank statement or words from his mouth.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:59 | 5595217 LetThemEatRand
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RT is Russian media.  If they didn't like the Forbes article, I think Putin would have made sure to disagree.  

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:01 | 5595222 Anusocracy
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"So how did Putin make his billions again?"

Idiot! The same way EVERYBODY in government makes their money.

By stealing it.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:03 | 5595224 LetThemEatRand
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No shit fuckhead.  So how does that disprove my point that anyone looking to Russia to save them is a fucking idiot?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:07 | 5595233 TungstenBars
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Can you not read? Are you that fucked?

 

Read the article.

 

Talks of power not billions of dollars? If I'm wrong please quote how Putin is a bilionaire, maybe I'm blind?? Please show where it talks of money and billions and not power?

 

Obama is there too. He a billionaire?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:24 | 5595277 Buckaroo Banzai
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For crying out loud, those lists are bullshit. The Bush family has been running drugs for two centuries, they probably have $300 billion socked away. You think they would let that number appear on a list somewhere? Clinton got the skim from Mena AFB during the 80s when the CIA was running massive amounts of drugs through there, if he has less than $10 billion I'd be shocked. Putin came to power in the 90s when Russia was in absolute chaos and if he couldn't use his major KGB insider connections to make at least $30 billion during all the confusion, then he's a grotesque incompetent.

Not to mention the Rothschilds and Rockefellers. Funny how you never see their names on any lists. If each of those families has less than $1 Trillion in total assets then they haven't been doing it right. Hint: they've been doing it right.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:11 | 5595405 cynicalskeptic
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Ever notice how all US ex-presidents end up on the board fo the Caylyle Group - which owns far more than you realize.  Nie cover for the massive increases in net worth they all seem to have after leaving office.

As for the CIA et al.... God knows the fortunes made through drug running and other enterprises..... not to mention diversion of massive unaudited 'black' funds.  They're all serving out of patriotism.. yeah, right.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:01 | 5596189 Cathartes Aura
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there are no "nation states".

there are only corporations, and corporations are created to accumulate resources, of which humans are obviously considered same.

profit.  that's the only story ZH is concerned with.  who/what/how/when.

there are other stories of course, but this place is about telling the story of the profiteers.  that some here choose to imagine themselves as having a "side" or even being a "part" of this historical game, well, hardly surprising, but still rather sad.

same as it ever was.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:14 | 5595252 TungstenBars
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Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:18 | 5595257 TungstenBars
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Sat, 12/27/2014 - 15:32 | 5596820 englishvinal
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Profanity and gutter language is the effort of a feeble mind to "express itself" forcibly....... 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 19:17 | 5597312 Sturm und Drang
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It got your attention ...

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:06 | 5595234 trulz4lulz
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So fucking what if he is a billionaire? maybe he knows how to run a business? Wasnt Ross Perot a billionaire oil tycoon as well? People were all over his nuts in the nineties. Hell, weve had nothing but actors, lawyers and community planners be president since Ive been alive. Ive not seen ONE actual American leader that was a true statesman or a gentleman in office. I have NEVER met an honest lawyer or politician, save Ron Paul I had the pleasure to meet him in 2007(8).

Some ZHedgers are old enough to remember great men in American leadership and I am truely jealous of you guys. But Im a product of watching and seeing a UTTERLY CORRUPT government run ripshaw over the entire planet, since ive been old enough to remember!

And I for one cant wait for someone to slit this monsters fucking throat. All is fair in love and war, bitchez.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:41 | 5595316 LetThemEatRand
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That would be a valid point, except Putin has never run a business.  Think about that for a second.  It should only take a second to realize you're completely wrong when you think about it.  So this guy who made billions from government work is going to stop the crony capitalists in the West and "fix" things?  Seriously?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:07 | 5595397 trulz4lulz
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Im having a hard time finding anything that dosent admit speculation on his wealth. The 60 or 70 billion in question is all speculation. Not really trying to defend the guy one way or the other, but it seems murky at best. Allegedly he owns a 37-40% stake in Surgutneftegaz and a small 3% stake in Gazprom. But as far as I am aware its not illegal to own stakes in companies that legally operate in your country. But again, this is nothing but scapegoating and ignoring problems in America (if your a Merkin). I find it odd that people will bring up Putin allegedly owning stake in a company, yet turn a blind eye when Hunter Biden sits on the board of operations for a Ukrainian fracking company.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/money/is-vladimir-putin-the-richest-man-o...

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:46 | 5595463 LetThemEatRand
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You are mistaking calling out Putin with defending the rulers of America.  

How did Putin get his stake in anything?  He's a government worker.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 06:34 | 5595696 Self-enslavement
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A billionaire? As if a billion pieces of paper was worth anything nowadays. A billion pieces of fucking confetti. Who the fuck cares.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 11:53 | 5596170 trulz4lulz
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Well, I would imagine he bought them, like everyone else in the world that owns a stake/shares in a company. He dosent own more than 50% of either one, Im not sure wha tthe big deal is here.

So it is okay for American politcians to be millionaires and billionaires, apppoint Corporate heads to political office i.e, Monsanto, but its not okay for some due to own a stake in a Russian oil company? Im not following you very well on this one man.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 15:34 | 5596830 englishvinal
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WHAT billions?.....  Show me the money... as Tom Cruise said in the movie....  

Can the regurgitation of the Forbes, FAUX News, MSNBC, ABC, CBS, ad infnitum... heifer dust propaganda........................ SHOW some real hard evidence, in the form of verified documentation... or quit throwing up yesterdays lunch.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:32 | 5595370 Dathedr
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You are refering to the Forbes, you fucking idiot! But you can as well refer to or quote some "Russian" media like Moscow Times e.g. which is owned by some Anglozionist consortium located in Finland, retard!

 

Tell me something: why isn't there Rothschilds and Rockefellers on those Forbes, NY Times, et. al lists ever, hm scum? Sell stupidity someplace else, scum!

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Sat, 12/27/2014 - 05:24 | 5595613 Volkodav
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forbes

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 06:47 | 5595707 BillyPilgrim
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That link does not even claim he owns billions.

 Show the proof he is a billionair or shut the fuck up.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 13:02 | 5596393 never_again
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You are a fool if you believe otherwise. For years, the goal of the Russian leaders was to enrich themselves. This hasnt changed.

 

n/a

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 15:05 | 5596745 loveyajimbo
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"You are a fool if you believe otherwise. For years, the goal of the Russian leaders was to enrich themselves. This hasnt changed."

 

Wake up, Homer... what do you think the US leaders have been doing for the last 100 years!?!?!?  Biggest crooks:  the Bushes, the Clintons and the bathHouse moron Soetero.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:04 | 5595223 Amerikan Patriot
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Putin on the Ritz? Russian said to Have Billions | How much is Putin worth?.  Although Russian President Putin warned of American exceptionalism in a NY Times op-ed piece, when it comes to Putin and the Russian people, it is his exceptionalism that is shrouded in mystery, reports CNBC's Robert Frank.

Russian President Vladimir Putin once said that as a poorly paid politician, he worked "like a galley slave." He refers to himself in public as "your humble servant" and he reported his official income last year was $187,000.

His official list of assets include a small apartment and three cheap cars. Clearly, Putin has more. But how much more?

Speculation about Putin's net worth has long been one of the biggest parlor games in wealth and political circles. And now with Putin taking center stage in the crisis over Syria, his power and wealth have once again come under the spotlight.

Wealth in Russia is often held through shell companies, offshore accounts and frontmen. So despite efforts by many reporters over the years, no one has been able to pin a precise dollar number on Putin's fortune. Putin and his representatives have long denied rumors of his wealth, saying they are baseless. But Russian political insiders and opponents of Putin have claimed his wealth could be in the billions.

In a memo disclosed by WikiLeaks, former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice quotes a Russian opposition figure as saying that "Vladimir Putin is nervously trying to secure his future immunity from potential law enforcement investigations into his alleged illicit proceeds."

In interviews with The Guardian, Die Welt and other overseas media, Russian political analyst Stanislav Belkovsky estimated Putin's wealth at more than $40 billion. He said Putin has shares in three oil and gas companies, including Surgutneftegas and Gazprom, through offshore trusts.

In a leaked cable from 2008, former U.S. Ambassador to Russia John Beyrle repeated rumors that Putin was linked with Swiss trading firm Gunvor.

"The company is rumored to be one of Putin's sources of undisclosed wealth," Beyrle wrote, attributing the information to oil traders. Putin and Gunvor denied the claim.

Putin's presidential perks are also substantial. In a 32-page report, with the sardonic title "The Life of a Galley Slave," former political leader and Putin critic Boris Nemtsov details the fleet of cars, planes and boats at the president's disposal.

It said Putin has 20 homes, four yachts and a wealth of other presidential assets. It said he has 58 aircraft, including 15 helicopters and 43 other aircraft, including an Airbus, two Dassault Falcon jets and an Ilyushin airliner with an $18 million cabin outfitted by a jeweler.

The report also said that Putin's four yachts include a 176-foot vessel with a spa pool and waterfall and a more elaborate five-deck boat with a barbecue.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:17 | 5595260 ZerOhead
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In a memo disclosed by WikiLeaks, former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice quotes a Russian opposition figure as saying that "Vladimir Putin is nervously trying to secure his future immunity from potential law enforcement investigations into his alleged illicit proceeds."

He'll probably apply to become an American citizen when he leaves office so he'll only have to pay a small fine on his ill-gotten billions...

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:21 | 5595273 trulz4lulz
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Wouldnt he need to be an Israeli citizen for that type of protection? I dont know that the tribe is going to let an Orthy Christian in the club though.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:31 | 5595282 ZerOhead
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Normally you would need to be an Israeli citizen to pull off that amount of crime.

Anyway they can't be too picky... they let the Clinton girl in didn't they?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:36 | 5595301 trulz4lulz
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Yeah but from what I understand she had to do a few donkey shows in an Israeli morale camp in the last war with Lebanon. When the bell tolls you gotta pay them dues.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:39 | 5595310 FieldingMellish
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He'll join the board of Goldman Sachs. Instant worldwide immunity.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:35 | 5595398 Dathedr
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Ah, whenever you see stupidity and hubris going hand in hand, you can be sure it's either the paid Empire’s shill or some degenerate useful idiot behind it! So which one you are, City of London/Washington DC/Rockefeller/Rotschild's Patriot or simly only an odiot -- the first or the second one, hm? Or pehaps both?

 

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Sat, 12/27/2014 - 15:43 | 5596855 englishvinal
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"it is his exceptionalism that is shrouded in mystery"  I believe that the Manchurian Candidate residing in the white house INVENTED that term, "exceptionalism" .. or did you forget before you bought the santorum, hook line and sinker?

 

And you are QUOTING hear-say statements from the likes of Kinda-Sleezy Rice?...... PULEEEZZZEEE.............. repeating what she HEARD from a Russian opposition figure.. UN-NAMED~!

Everything you have listed here is "hear-say"... "HE SAID"..... IT IS RUMORED .... IT IS SAID that PUTIN has 20 homes".... THE REPORT also SAID he has a yacht..... "in an UN-IDENTIFIED leaked cable in 2008"...... Putin's wealth is ESTIMATED...... 

NOT ONE SHRED OF DOCUMENTATION..... none.............. but the nay-sayers and TROLLS repeat, and repeat and repeat.. like victious trained parrots... until the gullible people in the US think it is truth.....


Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:36 | 5595445 roadlust
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How is someone who puts his politcal adversaries in jail (or kills them) "legitimate?"

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 10:27 | 5595930 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

How is someone who puts his politcal adversaries in jail (or kills them) "legitimate?"

There's no need for you to sidetrack the discussion to Obama. Most people are pretty much set in their opinion regarding Obama's legitimacy or lack thereof.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:36 | 5595446 Welder
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Putin is an oligarch alright. He (allegedly) owns 5% of Gazprom. I don't have the means to verify it though. Maybe someone here on ZH can. 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:36 | 5595447 Welder
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Putin is an oligarch alright. He (allegedly) owns 5% of Gazprom. I don't have the means to verify it though. Maybe someone here on ZH can. 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 19:20 | 5597315 Thom_333
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Like the Rockefollers and the other folks No one told you that behind every big fortune there´s a crime - in most cases a number of them. Crimes. Bigtime. Actually a lot written on the subject. Why not try your hand at reading a book instead onf following Kardashian´s ass on social media?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:49 | 5595183 Freddie
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Putin has two nuke weapons:

1. Default or have a debt moritorium on the money owed to western banks.. 

2. Plus real nukes like the SS-18.

Russia will be fine.  Amerika is Obola-Land and Fergusonville.  

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:22 | 5595423 tarabel
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Lots of Detroits hidden in the Urals.

But I still like that cool statue in front of Detroit's City Hall.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:49 | 5595467 cornflakesdisease
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That probably will be the QE Europe's been looking for.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 05:55 | 5595656 ItalianColonyCitizen
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To AmerikanPatiot:

Excuse me sir, how much are you paid to write this stuff?
Looks like a funny and easy job. Is it possible to apply? I need cash.
Thank you. 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:26 | 5595134 Amerikan Patriot
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Could some of you dear souls Western Union Vlad some dollars (he said he doesn't trust the ruble)?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:05 | 5595231 NoDecaf
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You are a cunt.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 10:28 | 5595935 Winston of Oceania
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and you are a pussy calling names from behind the net...

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 12:00 | 5596187 NoDecaf
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you're a cunt also

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 16:09 | 5596912 aiaiai
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I am a chosenite.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 15:54 | 5596876 englishvinal
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And YOU, NoDecaf..... are a shame and disgrace on the minority of good people left in AmeriKa...... we remember when there were a majority of people who were decent, honest, respectful, and civilized... YOU are a product of HOLY-wood, mass propaganda, and satanic rejection of something even as basic as 'good manners'.... 

Shame~!

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:28 | 5595139 manofthenorth
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Russia should buy all the world's silver prodoction next year, maybe all the gold too.

That would make a very nice reserve asset.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:31 | 5595144 Amerikan Patriot
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What is 'prodoction', Bob?

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:42 | 5595167 trulz4lulz
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Coming from a person that cant spell the word "is", im sure he is quite upset about you badgering him. Or is it just that the j-trig manual was updated and you just cant type IS?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:04 | 5595230 Anusocracy
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An honest mistake.

Sort of like what your mother had when she had you

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:39 | 5595311 Volkodav
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little goat bit her titte, she dropped on head...not right since

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 10:27 | 5595932 Winston of Oceania
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what would they "buy" it with? you have the mind of a child...

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:29 | 5595140 Amerikan Patriot
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Putin is Trying to Save Russia’s Economy with One Weird Trick December 26 at 3:53 PM

Vladimir Putin wants to have his dollars, spend them too, and invade Ukraine.

That's impossible, of course, but he's trying to make it a little less so with some financial legerdemain that covers up what's really going on. Putin, you see, is forcing Russia's companies to spend their dollars instead—but Russia's government will be on the hook if those firms get into trouble as Russia's economy implodes. So Putin, in other words, is playing a financial shell game to try to buy enough time for oil prices to rebound and bail him out.

Russia's problem, as I've said before, is that it doesn't so much have an economy as an oil exporting business that subsidizes everything else. And that business is in bad shape now that oil prices have halved the past few months. Cheaper oil means Russian corporations have fewer dollars to turn into rubles, which is just another way of saying that there's less demand for rubles—so its price is falling.

Free falling, actually. The ruble, which started the year at 33 per dollar, gradually dropped to 60 before suddenly dropping to 80 on Dec. 16. It was a run on the currency. People flocked to their banks to turn their rubles into dollars and, failing that, stampeded to stores to buy whatever foreign goods they could—luxury cars, Apple products and Ikea furniture—before their money lost any more value. Even jacking up interest rates from 10.5 to 17 percent, basically paying people to keep their money in rubles, wasn't enough to persuade them to do so.

And then the panic was over. Well, at least for now. The ruble stabilized, then it rallied, and now it's settled at around 54 per dollar. What changed? Simple: Russia's government started turning its dollars into rubles, and it started strong-arming Russia's companies into doing so as well. Specifically, the government spent $15.7 billion of what was its $414 billion war chest in the past week alone. That's a pretty high burn rate. And it's even worse than that because Russia is counting on that money to bail out not only its currency, but also its government and companies.

The math is pretty brutal. Russia's government, you see, will go from surplus to deficit now that its oil revenues have dried up. And it can't borrow the money it needs, because Western sanctions over its incursion into Ukraine have cut it, along with everyone else in Russia, off from international credit markets. So it will have to start dipping into its rainy day fund to cover its bills.

It's already using that money, though, to bail out its banks. Here's how the dominos line up. Russia's companies, as Paul Krugman explained, borrowed a lot of dollars the past few years when it looked like the ruble would keep going up and up. So those dollar debts—which can't be rolled over, again, because of the sanctions—are harder to pay off now that the ruble has collapsed. That's bad news not just for the Russian companies that might default, but for the Russian banks that lent them money.

So far, the government has seen its $530 million bailout of Trust Bank, a mid-tier lender known for its Bruce Willis ads, balloon to $1.9 billion in a matter of days—with plenty more to come for other banks. Indeed, the government announced that two other lenders will probably need $5.9 billion the next few months, and from there, who knows how much more. It's no wonder that Russia's banks mistrust each other so much that they won't lend to each other on anything but punitive terms for even short amounts of time. And that despite the fact that the government told them that they could pretend they hadn't taken losses by not marking their books to market.

Russia, in other words, is stuck in an economic catch-22. It can't afford to spend too many dollars bailing out its currency when it needs to use that money to bail out its companies. But those companies, which have a lot of dollar debts, will need even bigger bailouts—as will the banks that lent them money—if Russia doesn't bail out its currency. So either way, it's going to have to spend its dollars, but it can't really afford to do that, either. That's because $400 billion of reserves is more like $200 billion. Think about it this way. If you spend half your money bolstering your currency and your financial system, and that's still not enough, why should the other half be either? Markets will smell the blood in the water and attack until the ruble completely collapses and companies go broke.

So Putin needs to find more dollars, and he needs to find them now. Where, you ask? Well, the answer is as obvious as it is unlikely: Russia's companies. Now, the government has said it will never use capital controls—forbidding people and corporations from turning their rubles into foreign currency—even as it's started to introduce them. It's already ordered the big exporters to sell some of their dollars for rubles, and then keep their dollar reserves at that level from now on.

But think about it. There's a problem here: The government is basically taking dollars from companies that have a lot of dollar debts. So how will they pay back what they owe now? Well, if you guessed that in true circular fashion the government would lend companies back the dollars they need, you'd be right. The central bank, you see, will lend dollars and euros for up to a year to banks that have lent dollars and euros to corporations. Or, if you ignore the middleman, Russia's central bank is lending dollars directly to Russia's companies.

The point of all this is to hide how many dollars Russia is actually spending to prop up the ruble. And in that, at least, it's succeeding. It's not easy to keep track of how much money Russia is committing when it's spending its reserves, forcing companies to spend theirs, and then loaning those companies the dollars they now need. Because if companies default on these dollars loans, it will turn out that the government was spending these dollars all along. That shouldn't happen, but it still could if the combination of low oil prices and a deep credit crunch make its economy shrink somewhere between 5 and 10 percent next year, like people think it could. In that case, the central bank would probably print however many rubles these companies need, which it basically already did for the big oil producer Rosneft, and then watch the ruble fall further as markets catch on to the sleight of hand.

Putin could end at least some of this pain if he gave up his imperial ambitions in Ukraine and the sanctions were lifted. If he doesn't, though, and oil prices stay around $60 a barrel, then Russia is going to be hit by the double whammy of rising unemployment and rising inflation. To give you an idea how serious it's getting, Putin is already talking about putting price controls on vodka now that all prices are starting to climb.

Putin's going to find out if letting them drink vodka works any better than letting them eat cake.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:34 | 5595155 dcohen
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Change your nick to american parrot

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:54 | 5595198 TungstenBars
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or Jumbotron

fucking J-crew trolls are funny

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 08:46 | 5595821 JohninMK
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He seems to be missing the point that with the fall in the value of the ruble the drop in the oil price has been matched in ruble terms so no change in rubles taken home.

Also dollar income from oil/gas seems to be being spent on gold implying that Russia has moved to effectively selling oil/gas for gold just using dollars as the exchange mechanism. Then on Jan 1st China will be protecting the ruble.

Russia looks pretty secure to me.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:44 | 5595173 Jumbotron
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Exactly right.  This little KGB cocksucker is already calling up the Kremlin photographer to get another set of pix showing Putin riding his one trick pony.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:53 | 5595196 trulz4lulz
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Speaking of cocksuckers......are you and amerikkkan parrot on a date tonight? I can picture you two sitting at a truck stop, youre drinking gravy and amerikkan parrot slwoly inserts freedumb fries into your slightly open, gravy filled mouth, he pulls out the freedumb fry and gently bites into its gravy soaked goodness.

Your guys' story is one of love and I respect that. I wil even hand it to you guys for going on dates to places with men only showers. Its a special love.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:52 | 5595345 ZerOhead
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Strangely the fries and gravy part sounds good...

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:49 | 5595466 cornflakesdisease
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Ah yes, attack the individual and not his argument . . .

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 02:12 | 5595492 trulz4lulz
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Exactly right.  This little KGB cocksucker is already calling up the Kremlin photographer to get another set of pix showing Putin riding his one trick pony.

And where, exactly is this individuals well thought out argument that I am to refute?  Hmmmmm???? Where is it? You cant cal me out for doing the exact same shit I see this fucker and a couple other "people" doing, so fuck off with your "rules of the internet". Im not engageing them for any other reason than hate fucking them, pure and simple. I hate people like that and I love to hate fuck them right in their smarmy cocksuckers. Im tired of ZH, one of the ONLY places i go to on the web for news, getitn gshit all over by J-Trig/GCHQ trolls.....they are just disgusting, slimy, good for nothing hacks. They get paid by ME AND MY TAX DOLLARS to spew FALSE INFORMATION, personal attacks, false science, and propaganda all the while doing it form the position of moral and intellectual superiority. ANd since I PAY FOR THEIR WAGES its well within my rights to tell the fuckers to eat shit. And if I want to say he is licking gravy off of truck stop toilets for herpes medication, god damn it I will! These people perpetuate world war, mock the suffereing of kids in the middle east and have made comments about getting hard on thinking of watching kids burn like candles.

 

So fuck them and fuck you too. Jtrig.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 05:52 | 5595650 Grumbleduke
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+100

www.noagendashow.com

You may give it try for an additional "news" source (it's more commentary then news, actually).

 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:54 | 5595199 Freddie
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The one weird trick is Russia's has a debt moritorium for Russian companies and European banks will blow up.   Watch and see.

German big business and banks must be howling in rage over what the USSA-ObalaLand and EU are doing.  Germany better dump Merkel and tell ObolaLand to get f***ed.,

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:48 | 5595464 cornflakesdisease
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This is true, but the Russian people will hurt either way and going forward, Russia will become like Argentina.

 

PS  Any hopes of the Russian ruble becoming anything more then a third world fiat just went up in smoke.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:25 | 5595280 Beowulf55
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"imperial ambitions in Ukraine".....boy, where did you get that NY banned Big Gulp of kool-aid?

Maybe you haven't been keeping up with the newsYou might want to Google IRAQ, 9/11, ISIS, Libya, Bengashi, Afghanistan, weapons of mass destruction, yellow cake, Dick Cheney treson, George Bush lies, open Obama administration, Soros, MH370, Council on Foreign Relations, and Bilderbergers.  Then you might want to read some of the links on Zero Hedge, BrotherJohnf, and Global Research.  Then when you are ready for more advanced reading, let me know and I can point you to some other more advanced resources to link too.  Please don't be afraid to to apply a little grammar, logic, and rhetoric to overcome your government and MSM programming.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:44 | 5595322 ZerOhead
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You can lead a troll to knowledge but you can't make it think...

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:42 | 5595454 roadlust
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"Freefalling Putin," will eventually go "splat" when he hits. 

I'm hoping for freefalling real estate prices in London as the gangsters are forced to liquidate the money they've looted from their former "county."  (It's now a Duchy.)

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 08:02 | 5595769 Nestor Makhno
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Its great that you've learned how to copy and paste, perhaps one day in the future you will have an original thought and share it with us.

P.S.

"I need go poopy now " is not an original thought

 

PPS

I actually agree with the article you've reposted, I just think you're a bit of a dick.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 16:06 | 5596907 englishvinal
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"One weird trick".... are you selling face cream on the internet?... Or did you run out of creative ideas ?.......................

The Roubel has re-gained almost 40% as of the day before Christmas................ but you wouldn't mention that fact would you?.... 

I don't GET IT... WHY are the "powers that be in the US".. (power leakage everywhere else in the world now).... so fixated on getting the already propagandized "tax payers", human resources, shuffling masses, U.S. citizens.... to believe that President Valdimir Putin is the devil incarnate, that Russia is going to die and vanish from the face of the earth, etc. etc. etc....?????  What is the big push all about? What possible difference can it make what the FAUX News watching zombies in the United States think?

 

Does it matter anymore if the great unwashed in the US "approves" of the politicians launching anohter "war" on another sovereign nation?...   I fail to see why it would.  That all being said, it is a moot point because Russia will NOT be provoked into "war" in the physical sense... short of dropping a nuke on Saint Petersburg, and then there would be not just Russia, but China, Iran, North Korea (don't sneer.. you have no idea what may be lurking in North Korea), and an assortment of nations in South America... plus plus plus...   Somehow I doubt that is in the game plan... 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:32 | 5595149 Peter Pan
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The West has nothing to lose because if it loses this match with Russia it will have well and truly lost everything going forward. A peaceful solution will still see her saddled with too much debt and even less influence and a currency that will no longer have stature.

It is for this reason that the US is very dangerous and unpredictable. 

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:36 | 5595156 arby63
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Total joke of a post. We just aren't that orchestrated. Shit, I could swear Satan himself is in charge of these wildcard world events. Putin has no leverage. Obama has Jew printing presses. The Chinese? Ha, they need 100 Wal Marts built.

 

We are all going down together. Face it.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:38 | 5595162 Kill or be Killed
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Russian mafia

US Govt

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:57 | 5595180 Volkodav
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Obviously you are ignorant who is Russian mafiya.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 16:12 | 5596918 aiaiai
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They are chosenites.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:41 | 5595164 himaroid
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Hoisington guys wrote a while back that the only risk to the long tbond was if this sort of thing began to happen.

ie. the world stops trading together.

The easy money has been made.

I will be trading like a cat on a hot tin roof.

Old school rules...

One - Don't lose money.

Two - Don't lose money.

Three - Don't lose money.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:41 | 5595165 Payne
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Russia and China have both proven to put excess reserves into Gold and energy resources.  They play along with the West while demonstrating that the dollar is not a vehicle of choice for excess reserves.

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:45 | 5595174 FredFlintstone
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If the CIA or Russia assasinated a top US elected official, wouldn't we be obligated to go to war? What if they don't get that new fence installed in time? You know they let volunteers drive in motorcades. Sounds like it is all being set up. I see black helicopters outside my window. Later dudes...

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:56 | 5595204 FredFlintstone
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I am giving you fuckers the game plan! Go make some money.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:11 | 5595244 Freddie
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Any American kid dumb enough to go fight for Obola and McCain is a stupid fool.  Good luck going to the Ukraine or Eastern Europe with Grad Smerch raining down.   And the USSA will not get air superiority.  

What was that Jordanian F-16 shot down with?   The USA said ISIS did not do it.  Was it Syria with MANPADS or S-300s.  Putin better upgrade the Syrian stuff. 

The F-16 and F-15 are the best American planes.  The F-35 is junk and the F-22 is marginally better.  F-18s are slight less capable than F-16.  The USA will lose any land war with Russia inclduing the Ukraine. 

Based on Dr. Jim Willie, he thinks Putin will be in office and the US govt will get overt**own before Putin or Russia. 

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:41 | 5595453 post turtle saver
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Russia is already losing and a hot war isn't needed to pull it off... in a game, this is where the player calls out to the opponent making all the noise, "look at the scoreboard, bitch"

Fri, 12/26/2014 - 23:47 | 5595179 Latitude25
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Putin is winning shit.  The Chinese are winning it all.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:00 | 5595218 Kyddyl
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This guy Holland is a bit behind the times, and reality. Or he thinks we're all stupid. He thinks we don't know that Russia has legitimate and legal concerns over numerous oil and gas pipelines running through the Ukarine. He also apparently hasn't noticed it was the US who provoked the Ukraine unrest (and eleswhere) and continues to do so. Saudi Arabia and much of the rest of the world is sick and tired of the US aggressions that are efforts to deny the failing US dollar, thus the petro dollar is already history and China will be enjoying a direct pipeline from the Russian oilfields. China's aready got the Iraq oil in partial payment for our debt. Our soldiers died to hand the oil over to China while the "contractors" got even fatter. It is the US who wants war and it's all the unemployed intended to be used as cannon fodder.  The sooner somebody or group of somebodies takes out the US economy the better for the rest of the world. You and I might even live through it without glowing in the dark.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:33 | 5595299 DaveyJones
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well said

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 04:18 | 5595588 noben
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Agreed.  A nicely written piece, and I'm happy that more and more financial writers are getting clarity and the gumption to speak up, but there is nothing new that he says, which others (here) have not already stated many times for a year or two.

But, hey, welcome to the Chorus, Holland.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:02 | 5595226 Rootin' for Putin
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Some of these guest posts are about as useful as getting the Kardashians to write for ZH

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:11 | 5595245 trulz4lulz
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Thats total bullshit and you know it. Everyone is keenly aware that the Kardashians can neither read or write. Talk about wishful thinking on your part.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 00:39 | 5595313 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Thats total bullshit and you know it. Everyone is keenly aware that the Kardashians can neither read or write.

That's never stopped Amerikan Patridiot.

Granted, though, that the number of polysyllabic words in the tripe that he copies and pastes renders it incomprehensible to him.

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:19 | 5595417 tarabel
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no potato for you, eh?

C'mon, what happened to the old Stoogie? Probably stripping bark in the Evenki National Okrug.

You are definitely not that guy.

Which raises the question of what sort of operation hands off identities to multiple players?

Sat, 12/27/2014 - 01:47 | 5595465 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Oh, look, it's the tarabel kookhrana.

(He thinks I'm a multi-person 'operation' so let's have some fun with him.)

Do people who speak about people reporting facts but not address the reality?

And you introduced it is to get away with potato.

Might want to think on how is a few fingers when asked about retaining the sea.

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