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FBI Busted Falsely Blaming North Korea for Sony Hack

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I hate North Korea’s leaders … They’re not only clowns sporting bad haircuts and weird clothes, but they live in luxury while the population literally starves.

But the FBI’s official assertion that North Korea carried out the attack in retaliation for Sony’s releasing the movie “The Interview” is B.S.

Here’s a sample of top cybersecurity experts who say that North Korea was not behind the hacking attack of Sony:

  • One of the world's leading cyber intelligence firms, Norse (and see this)
  • Renowned hacker, DEFCON organizer, and CloudFlare researcher Marc Rogers
  • John Dickson, a former air force intelligence officer who is now a partner in the cybersecurity firm Denim Group
  • Princeton Professor of Computer Science Ed Felten
  • Former federal prosecutor Mark Rasch of Rasch Technology and Cyberlaw
  • Kim Zetter, an award-winning, senior staff reporter at Wired covering cybercrime, privacy, and security
  • Former Lulzsec hacker turned government informant Sabu
  • Security researcher Grugq

Just because the FBI blames someone doesn't mean they did it.  And see this.

Postscript: Robert Barsocchini argues that the U.S. is to blame for North Korea’s rotten leaders.  And North Korea is more popular with the U.S. public than our own Congress.    Regardless, I still hate North Korea’s leaders for treating their people so poorly.

 

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Tue, 12/30/2014 - 19:34 | 5607164 pelican
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Removed

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:43 | 5606927 besnook
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what i object to is the usa .gov with obambam as the emcee helping sony save a sure money loser, by turning it into an international incident furthering the other(mid east policy first) insane foreign policy called the asian pivot.

does the usa really think nk is a bubble between japan, sk and china that can be popped without HUGE implications for the region. china will never allow north korea to fall. they said as much in the korean war. ask a few vets who are still around what the bugout was like when the chinese decided enough was enough in 1952.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:38 | 5606907 suteibu
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Obama administration retraction (no apology) on page 36E below the cruise ads.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:37 | 5606905 GoldRulesPaperDrools
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How much money has the taxpayer spent on the various intelligence (and I say that with all sarcasm) and law-enforcement organizations that they can't even get something like this right?  Or at least admit they don't know until they're relatively sure?

More taxpayer money fed to the government hog ... and not even any pig crap to use for fertilizer after the fact.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 19:47 | 5607232 crazzziecanuck
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We don't know if it's idiotic intelligence being feed to an idiotic leadership or if it's a case of the leadership, once again, putting policy ahead of the facts as they did with MH-17 and Ghouta before that.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:30 | 5606878 pelican
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-- wrong location

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:24 | 5606874 MASTER OF UNIVERSE
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The CIA authored 'The Interview' is a terrible movie that might actually be the worst movie of the year. The hype pre-release must be intentional because if the movie was released normally in theaters it would have bombed at the box office. With all the hype surrounding the 'hack' the movie actually made money. Moreover, I don't think 'The Interview' would appeal to anyone over the age of 15. The CIA has reached a level of immaturity that accurately depicts their anal sadistic

ethos in the executive of that culture. Clearly, Hollywood and the CIA

are desperate to dumb down Americans to their uneducated level with movies like 'The Interview'. Frankly, the movie was not worth my time to watch it.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 20:39 | 5607409 ThisIsBob
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I hear it had a happy ending.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:28 | 5606886 boattrash
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M.O.U.  You should have asked around first. I think 300 million Americins and 15 million Illegals could have told you that.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 19:20 | 5607114 Transformer
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Look, this movie is not art.  It's just another inane comedy from Seth Rogen.  I actually think it is one of his better ones.  I laughed a lot.  If you keep up on NK, and see all the pictures and parodies done on the net (by WB7 among others), then it's funny shit.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:22 | 5606858 MrButtoMcFarty
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"Let me be perfectly clear on this....I was not selected by the Banksters to speak truth....We just make a lot of this shit up as we go along."

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:14 | 5606819 George Washington
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[Deleted .. meant to reply to Pelican]

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:05 | 5606790 pelican
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Everyone has an opinion, however who actually has the logs?  Sony. Only the FBI has the power to investigate this throughly because they have the power of subpoena through proxies. 

Personally, it would not surprise me if the Koreans did it with out a proxy.  The Chinese do it all the time.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:23 | 5606823 George Washington
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Yes, the FBI is completely trustworthy </sarc>

And who cares that the FBI has a long history of blackmailing opponents?

Or that – as the New York Times, CBS News and others reported – the FBI informant involved in the 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center begged the FBI to substitute fake bomb power for real explosives, but his FBI handler moronically let REAL EXPLOSIVES be used?

Or that an FBI informant hosted and rented a room to two 9/11 hijackers in 2000?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:31 | 5606888 pelican
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No organization is completely trust worthy, it is made up of factions and individuals.  My thoughts on this investigation, it is based on technical experience.

 

 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:52 | 5606935 pelican
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If the FBI's conclusion this is based upon just malware analysis, then yes it is not a correct conclusion, however if it is based upon log data, data recorders, and tracking back through proxy, then it correct.

 

If this was an inside job, then only Sony has the logs to prove it.

 

If it was someone from the outside, then it is almost impossible to prove who it is.  Setting up a private TOR like network makes it impossible.

 

However, through arrogance or stupidity they might have made it traceable.

 

I am curioius to read Snyders analysis.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 19:06 | 5607046 TheReplacement
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Just one thing to rebut you with.  NSA bitchez.  If the FBI cannot definitely determine where these attacks came from AND provide the PROOF then they are lying, one way or the other.

So yeah, like ISIS, 911, MH17, and so many more, they are lying again.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 19:30 | 5607157 boogerbently
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Yeah !

Are you going to believe what you see, or what I tell you ?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:59 | 5607013 boogerbently
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E-mail check.

I mean between the FBI and the WH.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 19:12 | 5607048 pelican
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This is Schneirs's nalysisis and it is correct.

 

https://www.schneier.com/

 

 

"The FBI could have other intelligence that points directly at North Korea — evidence the private companies don’t have and that the FBI is choosing not to release."

Wed, 12/31/2014 - 13:48 | 5609446 TheGreatRecovery
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Then let the FBI make that information public.  North Korea, like any other citizen of planet Earth, is innocent until proven guilty.

Wed, 12/31/2014 - 13:25 | 5607441 Bastiat
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Yes they are experts at secret evidence suppofting their conclusions.  If they are ever pressed to actually disclose it even  10 20 30 50 years later, it will be heavily redacted or just gone -- because revealing that the FBI is a corrrupt political bludgeon is s threat to national security.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 19:27 | 5607147 boogerbently
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How many years did it take them to get Lerners e-mails ?

And those weren't "hacked".

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 22:07 | 5607704 conscious being
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Cha-ching!

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 19:18 | 5607093 Transformer
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More popular than our own congress?   Gee, maybe someone from the Un family should come over here and run for Congress.  What a hoot that would be!!

Wed, 12/31/2014 - 10:19 | 5608705 gmrpeabody
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Why can't you believe that the FBI has just become another bunch of political hacks like every other branch of the Federal Government...?

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