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As the crowd in Moscow grows to an estimated 10-15,000 protesters chanting "No Putin, No War", Russia has unleashed police in riot gear, apparently fearful of the consequences of this 'unlawful' assembly. The massive crowd of protesters gathered in Moscow's Manezhka Square on Tuesday, following the guilty verdict of anti-corruption crusader Alexei Navalny, remain peaceful for now; but scuffles are breaking out and tensions are rising.

 

Live Feed:

As Mashable reports,

Navalny, a leading foe of Russian President Vladimir Putin, was found guilty of fraud and given a suspended sentence of three and a half years on Tuesday, while his brother was sent straight to prison.

 

"The government isn't just trying to jail its political opponents — we're used to it; we're aware that they're doing it — but this time they're destroying and torturing the families of the people who oppose them," he said, calling for people to attend the protest on Tuesday evening.

 

Hours after the ruling, Navalny himself appeared alongside protesters at Moscow's Manezhka Square in defiance of a house arrest order — and was quickly detained by Russian authorities for breaking the terms. He was taken away in a bus and reportedly escorted back to his home.

 

Protesters chanted "Free Navalny! Free Russia!" and "Russia without Putin!" as he was carted away in a police bus.

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Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:28 | 5605930 freedom123
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You think that is fucked up? Think again!

Look at this daily incident in Russia:

http://youtu.be/uBHhSZiAPl8

P.S. BYW did you noticed that at first video where Russia police beat up than man - it was children playground and children where watching that. I wonder will they have any trust to police after that.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:32 | 5605960 Dr. Engali
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"BYW did you noticed that at first video where Russia police beat up than man - it was children playground and children where watching that. I wonder will they have any trust to police after that."

 

Actually as a father of three that was the first thing I noticed.

That second vieo is even more unbelievable. I don't understand how people can act that way.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:37 | 5605980 freedom123
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Well, that is reality in Russia. People who has never visited that place and only receive information from Putin main stream and so called "alternative" media - doesn't see this reality. They think it's about justice, freedom, manhood, etc. but no ... reality is different.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:46 | 5606039 Miketheterrible
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So that means you never been there. I have family there and been years ago. No, it isnt that bad. I can find plenty of videos of gunning down people by police in USA. Rarely in Russia.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:46 | 5606040 blaireauhedge
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How does that compare to the 5 or 6 U.S. citizens shot down by police in the last couple months alone?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:11 | 5606194 jm
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It is perfectly acceptable to consider both as barbaric. You don't need to choose one evil over another.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:09 | 5605850 Budd Fox
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A selection of American Police, from your friendly protecting and serving officers :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45VGFgiFu7Y

Spare me this George Soros paid crap on Putin ZH....at least you.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:25 | 5605912 SofaPapa
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As of 2:20 pm EST, the live feed shows nothing interesting.  From my limited Russian, I understood the guy on camera to be filling time.  He's talking to his friends, figuring out where everyone is, and nothing dramatic is happening at all.  People going about their business, it looks like.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:25 | 5605913 rsnoble
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Moscow has hippies too? LOL.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:25 | 5605915 QQQBall
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Too cold to protest. Maybe in springtime

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:28 | 5605929 Jack Burton
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Moscow Maidan. Right on schedule.  The Western NGO's have cultivated a large group of Moscow liberals in support of American policy towards Russia. These people want, to be blunt, an American leader for Russia, a splitting of the nation into 5 different American led puppet states. And they are promised high positions in the new Western government of Russia. Simple facts. Are these people real? Yes, they are very real, and they believe very much in their cause. The promises made to them are nothing short of wealth, power, political and corporate positions when the Anglo-American empire rules Russia.

I fear for their safety long run. Because Russian nationalists can be very nasty when they feel the motherland is being sold out. Keep an eye on Moscow, it is the center of American NGO influence, and their large collection of tame Russian Liberals.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:43 | 5606030 blaireauhedge
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Unleash Strelkov and Kadyrov and their guys on those Navalny traitors, who dream of a U.S. reality TV lifestyle (that's how dumb they are) and see what happens.

The nationalists absolutely hate those people and actually the cops are probably there to help protect them.

Unleash the nationalists on them and they are all slaughtered within 24 hours.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:17 | 5606218 Infinite QE
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Soros and his crew need to be buried alive ASAP.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:28 | 5605931 gcjohns1971
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Expecting this protest to be meaningful in Russia is just as unrealistic as expecting a Politician - including the beloved Pukin...ahem...Putin- to be admirable human beings.

The problem with politics is that everyone thinks all politicians are bad except their *favorite*.

But at the end of the day a politician is just a person who wants to use guns to shape human behavior to their ideal utopia, and likely to be cranky with those guns when they discover their utopia was viable only in their personal psychosis.

No exceptions.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:43 | 5606025 gcjohns1971
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At current count at least two people think that only their politician is a good-guy...while everyone else's is bad.

I bet the two don't agree on who is the 'good' politician.

If you don't find humanity comical, then you aren't paying attention.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:23 | 5606252 gcjohns1971
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Awesome!

We're up to SIX people who disagree with the thought that politicians are BAD PEOPLE.

In review, politicians are people who want to use force, guns, to change human behavior to conform to their ideal.

 

So, for those who think, what kind of person gives a man a gun, sends him out to harm others, and then expects that harm will not return to them, either through the politician himself, or through blow-back?

In 2000 years humanity has not changed.  Caesar empowered the Praetorian, and did not understand that from that moment it was they, not he, that ruled.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:48 | 5606965 corsair
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Ghandi was also a politician.

Are you still counting?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 20:29 | 5607370 Berspankme
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I find you comical, almost infantile

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:32 | 5605955 kowalli
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There was a less than 1000 people....

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:34 | 5605971 freedom123
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Didn't RT reported it was only 10? and all others where just bystanders?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:58 | 5606104 Max Steel
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Welcome back latvian potato shill . No, rt didn't even care to report it . Pissed ?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:18 | 5606566 Jorgen
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"No, rt didn't even care to report it"

Actually, they did. Also in Russian.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:05 | 5606158 Volkodav
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Actually majority in these walk along just look the curiousity of show.

 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:38 | 5605969 nowhereman
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It is comforting to see that, except for the NSA trolls here, this news is seen for what it is.  The USA, the country of rendition, torture, assassination and the child murdering drone, doesn't even attempt to diguise what it is up to anymore.  The State department's actions are so transparent that only the paid media shills are willingly oblivious to their deeds.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:34 | 5605975 cherry picker
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No Obama/Bush/Clinton no war

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:37 | 5605988 AlienTech
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Alexey Navalny unelected and unrepresentative Russian opposition leader invites afew people to a party for new years. And the MSM goes wild!!!!!

Police said 1,500 people attended, and 100 were detained.

 

How did this turn into 15000 in Reuters?  Why is he not in jail or in a choke hold..

 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:47 | 5606050 freedom123
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Putin regime corrupt court was plannig to roll out it's sentence on 15 of January. So opposition was plannig protest march on that date.

To organize this, opposition created FaceBook page at which 18 000 russian subcribed to attend.

Putin regime didn't like that so it demanded FaceBook to block that page (internet censorship right there) - FaceBook at first conceded but later after pubic presure returned blocked page back. So more than 18 000 russians where going to attend.

That would be very dangeourous for Putin regime - so it ordered corrupt court to roll out it's sentence a day before New Year eve - a date no one expected. So of course those 18 000 people didn't managed to come on this march. That is how Putin regime acts.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:38 | 5606003 gcjohns1971
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Why are these protestors so offensive in Putopia?

What's the problem?  It is not like they are wrecking the place!

It was cold in Moscow today.

Last I checked the protestors were putting out a lot of hot air.

What's wrong with that?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:42 | 5606014 suteibu
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"Putopia?"

Sheeech...what a waste of taxpayer money.  At least try to be entertaining.  The name calling is trite schtick.  Are they hiring pre-teens these days?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:46 | 5606041 gcjohns1971
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I love to see someone contradict themselves in two sentences or less.

 

Re-read your last two sentences.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:52 | 5606076 suteibu
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Sorry, I was trying to speak on your level so you could understand. 

Make a few intelligent remarks, present your arguments cogently and you might stir up some discussion.  As it is, you are simply wasting bandwidth.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:08 | 5606181 gcjohns1971
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Sincerity is clearly not your strong point.

You say name-calling is trite...followed by name-calling?

You say you are sorry...followed by an insult?

I don't need to make intelligent remarks about your true character.

You are doing it for me.

 

So let me speak at your level:

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me.

Now apply that thought to the protesters.

 

But, sorry, you were too busy planning how to torture their children to gain their compliance.

You realize that you are a very effective advertisment against yourself, right?

 

You can vote me down for this sentiment against your beloved man love--- which it wasn't, as you'd notice if you had the wit of my seven year old. 

But at the end of the day you are pussy who is afraid to think for yourself, or to have others think for themselves. 

So hide behind your crowd of thugs and know this:   You will be afraid your whole life, because your fear is not out there in the world.  It is inside you.

 

 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:16 | 5606212 suteibu
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LOL  I have no love for Putin. 

I am only offended that your lame attempts to derail the comments are a waste of time and effort.  You got no game. It's disappointing.  Perhaps it is an indication of the level of public servants in America.  I don't know but your example is certainly cause for concern.  As a taxpayer, I expect more.

And I'm still waiting for an intelligent comment about the topic of this article.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:25 | 5606259 gcjohns1971
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Ah, yes, posting something that you would not post is 'derailing'.

Heil suteibu!

 

P.S.

You do realize that YOU just said you were wasting time, right? Or you would not be responding?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:28 | 5606275 suteibu
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A dissenting view is always welcome.  But you are correct, I would not post something as lame as what you have posted.

As for my time, it is mine to waste.  I am not on the taxpayer's dime.  Now get back to work.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:58 | 5606454 gcjohns1971
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You realize your EBT is the taxpayer's dime, right?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:11 | 5606538 TheFourthStooge-ing
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And yours isn't?

 

Sorry, but when you serve up pitches like that, you can't expect nobody to swing.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:03 | 5606461 gcjohns1971
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"Sorry, I was trying to speak on your level so you could understand."

And failing miserably.

 

But that's okay.

I like verbal banter.

And I am multilingual.

I speak jive.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:15 | 5606552 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

But that's okay.

I like verbal banter.

And I am multilingual.

I speak jive.

So what's your other language?

 

Couldn't resist.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:41 | 5606010 Counterpunch
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The usual suspects, up to their usual tricks, for the usual reasons - having nothing to do with democracy, freedom, or the well-being of the people of Russia.

 

What might not be accomplished by the sword, may more easily
be achieved by the mind. There is more power in the intrigues
of the cloak-room than is to be purchased in the halls of oratory,
and it is better to own the king than sit on the throne. There is
more destructive power in the counting-room than may be found
in a hundred atom bombs, and it is more profitable to finance your
enemies to fight each other than it is to fight both of them yourself.
It is easier to infiltrate a government than to take it by assault;
and what can be done with a single government may be done with
a government of all nations.

- The Beasts of the Apocalypse (1959)

 

Watch how the MSM neocon press gives this saturation coverage, in precisely the same way they stopped covering the atrocities committed by Kiev in Eastern Ukraine, all at the same time.

 

This isn't, btw, to claim that Putin has constructed some kind of utopia, or that there is no corruption.  There's plenty - although hardly more than what exists in the United States. Putin is popular for returning a large portion of the wealth stolen by the overwhelmingly Jewish oligarchs who, with Western help, absolutely raped Russia under Yeltsin, their drunken puppet.

Russia is more prosperous, and more free, and less under Wall Street and Jewish oligarchical control than it was before Putin.  The widespread corruption by oligarchs preceded Putin, and he was able to erode much of it, by playing one against the other, all while resisting ongoing US/CIA efforts to destabilize the Russian street and surround Russia proper with more and more military hardware. 

The same can not be said as to the US under the Bush and Obama regimes - two superficially incredibly different candidates pursuing the same goals of the same Zionist/Militarist Deep State.

 

 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:44 | 5606029 agstacks
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What are those sticks the Russian riot police are holding?  In the US, i'm used to seeing them with the big assault...er, Personal Defence Weapons perched upon their mine resistant vehicle. 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:47 | 5606052 IndianaJohn
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Russia's economy may be worse than I thought if they have loosened the restrictions on foreign funding of political demonstrations.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:49 | 5606058 MsCreant
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Tyler(s).

I gotta laugh on your behalf.

Many posters have complained how you are one sided and don't give negative events in Russia enough air play (they are wrong, you do). So you post this.

Now the rest of the crowd needs to lynch you for posting this and falling for US driven propaganda. You didn't, you just posted this to be balanced and informative. You gave no spin on this at all, just aggregated what others have posted/said. 

Too funny.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:28 | 5606134 hobopants
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There seemed to be a change in tone around the time Fonz left / got banned, before that they were pretty firmly in the pro-Putin camp. The astounding thing is that they actually changed in response to criticism from readers and are now moving back towards a more critically balanced approach. What other news outlet would do that? Pretty incredible site, shows alot of integrity and a respect for the truth that you just don't get elsewhere.  

Wed, 12/31/2014 - 04:14 | 5608275 Ghordius
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+1 a more balanced approach makes ZH more... controversial. as respect for facts

and one triplet of facts is that Russia and Ukraine had a conflict of sorts, it costed some 3'000 lives, and Crimea has now a new flag

what I find astounding is this search for a White Hat Cowboy in this Wild Wild East. Putin good, ergo Kiev bad, or viceversa

to all those cheering for all this violence: have it at home, on yourself, instead of searching and cheering for it in the internets

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 15:57 | 5606105 Eagle Keeper
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Crimea - river

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:06 | 5606112 Atticus Finch
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Alexei Navalny is a asset of the National Endowment for Democracy, which is an NGO actively involved in destabilizing governments the world over. My only surprise it that Navalny was not arrested for sedition and attempting to destabilize Russia.

Anti-corruption is just a cover story. Not what is really going on. He is a US agent and not a legitimate opponent in the interest of Russia.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:00 | 5606123 gcjohns1971
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Today was a cold day in Moscow.

10,000-15,000 optimistic idiots in Moscow spent their time expelling hot air into Red Square.

Some people were offended by this particular hot air during cold weather.

People are the most comical when they do not mean to be.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:01 | 5606138 suteibu
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Dude!  Really?  You've already posted that lame "hot air" shit once.  Come on, you're getting paid better than that.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:10 | 5606185 gcjohns1971
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But if you were paid a kopek it was too much.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:11 | 5606195 gcjohns1971
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Let me help you count.

THREE is the number following two.

I have posted that rif THREE times.

I think it is funny.

Did you flunk pre-school?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:18 | 5606223 suteibu
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Three, is it?  I didn't read the entire thread but I will take your word for it.

That you think it is funny says a lot about you and that is no compliment.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:26 | 5606273 gcjohns1971
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Only if you think having no sense of humor is a compliment.

 

Oh, wait...

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:34 | 5606297 suteibu
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So, let me get this straight...you get paid to post on targeted sites which post articles that are deemed not in the best interest of the government (Note I did not say the American people, just the government).  There is no concern about the quality of the comments you make, only that, when your supervisor comes by your cubicle, you are whacking away...at your keyboard (to be sure, you've found a way to hide the porn).

Is that about right?  Taxpayers handing over hard-earned money for ineffective drivel? 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:54 | 5606429 gcjohns1971
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I should ask you.

I've been around on ZH a while, and do not post exclusively on political topics.

I have been on ZH for a while and most frequently post on non-political topics.

Your repeated claim that I am a paid troll has all the sincerity as everything else you've said...

I believe your current record is to contradict yourself within five words.

I believe you accomplished your current record while inserting an insult into an apology.

The funny thing, is that while you may have thought yourself clever, you're actually showing everyone that your words are the best litmus test of reality as you see it.  If you say it, then you believe it is not true.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:05 | 5606503 suteibu
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Naw, man...you got it all wrong.  I'm performing a public service free of charge.  I've got you responding to me so that others here do not have to ignore your comments on the article.  You would have recognized that if your ego was not bigger than your IQ.

We all take our turns at it. 

But the crowd has moved on to other articles so my work is done. 

 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:18 | 5606573 gcjohns1971
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Sute,

I want to thank you.

This has been fun.  And I am truly sincere in that.

But your wit is a lot like a fat woman in spandex, broad exposure with little satisfaction.

 

Know what I mean?

I'll catch (insult) you later.  Okay?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:02 | 5606141 Bankster Kibble
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Only 15,000?  How many were reporters?  Nobody can organize a good protest any more.  And the police just watched at first.  They must be getting soft to allow a protest on Red Square.  Did Putin wave from a balcony?

 

On the serious side, I can't believe average Russians were in that crowd.  The great majority of Russians would not shout "Crimea is not ours."  Sounds more like astro-turf than grass-roots.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:24 | 5606603 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Only 15,000?  How many were reporters?

The 15,000 figure is from reuters, who multiplied the actual number of 'protesters' by 10 and will later claim it was a typo.

On the serious side, I can't believe average Russians were in that crowd.

The average Russians were walking by shaking their heads or laughing at the 'protesters'.

The great majority of Russians would not shout "Crimea is not ours."

Only those on the payroll of USAID/NED.

Sounds more like astro-turf than grass-roots.

US tax dollars at 'work'.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:03 | 5606143 freedom123
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Putin regime corrupt court was plannig to roll out it's sentence on 15 of January. So opposition was plannig protest march on that date.

To organize this, opposition created FaceBook page at which 18 000 russian subcribed to attend.

Putin regime didn't like that so it demanded FaceBook to block that page (internet censorship right there) - FaceBook at first conceded but later after pubic presure returned blocked page back. So more than 18 000 russians where going to attend.

That would be very dangeourous for Putin regime - so it ordered corrupt court to roll out it's sentence a day before New Year eve - a date no one expected. So of course those 18 000 people didn't managed to come on this march. That is how Putin regime acts.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:07 | 5606168 Max Steel
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spare others from your psychotic rabble . 

 want to know about navalny : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijGWeGxxJEY

 The racist xenophobic neoliberal ultranationalist Alexei Navalny, darling of the Western MSM, just convicted of fraud against French cosmetic firm Yves Rocher .

 For those in the Western MSM who try so hard to ignore, whitewash, or pretend away who and what Alexei Navalny really is, just because he is "anti-Putin" and "pro-Western":

A violent racist xenophobic thieving fraudulent neoliberal gun-loving wingnut ultranationalist - rebranded as an "anti-corruption liberal".

In hindsight, the "Navalny project" in Russia of a devil's marriage between liberals/neoliberals and ultranationalists/fascists with open Western support should be seen as a trial and precursor for the much more successful "Maidan" riots and Putsch in Ukraine. The nationalists and fascists add violent muscle and numbers on the street that the figurehead and more media-presentable liberals/neoliberals have never had in either country.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:20 | 5606225 Lea
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A paltry 18 000 people were going to be dangerous for Putin, when he has over 80% of the population backing him? What kind of a loony fanficul world do you live in?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:05 | 5606151 Lea
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Pu-leeze! The bloke is an embezzler, so is his brother. Russian mafia, both of them. In America, he would be in jail. In "dictatorial" Russia, he is only under house arrest and has found a perfectly Orwellian way to call in the UE/USA "values"and be defended by the Western media, Western NGO, Soros and all the "philantropic" Washington crowd: call himself a "anti-corruption activist" (no joke!) jailed for "political reasons" ($500 000 worth of "political reasons", and that's without the laundering).

I say, Putin is very patient.

And there are no more than 2000 people there, tops, counting the 500 journalists.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:51 | 5606377 homonohumanus
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Putin has no choice, we are all in and military speaking the West is still to terrible to face. He is just in damage control mode and I think he /Russia is gning to lose foremost because of China is an unreliable partner.

Now we US and Europeans citizens are chocked when a modern country put crooks in jail, it is so uncommon that it would looked like almost unprecended if it were to happen. And lets not forget Putin hacked the PSN!!!

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:09 | 5606172 tarabel
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Always fun to watch the Okhrana go into overdrive to protect Grandmother Putin.

They are all criminals.

They are all paid CIA/NSA assets.

There isn't anybody actually there.

Oh look, over there, Ukraine bad.

Better than USA.

 

Rave on, my brothers and sisters. Let freedom ring.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:16 | 5606215 Volkodav
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few days back, you sent me relatively cogent thinking post.

I wondered...

now revert to this inane amount to nothing blah...

what good is it?

 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:14 | 5606555 tarabel
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Why do you find it so difficult to believe that I might like you personally but not your government? Is it not possible to unchain you from that rock?

Surely you must be willing to admit that at least some of these protestors are sincere in their beliefs and that it is a good thing that Russia has gotten to the point where such people can have their say without being mowed down in front of the Winter Palace?

No, they are all paid foreign agents and criminals, every single one of them, because NOBODY, and that means NOBODY, disagrees with the government. Unless they are an agent provocateur or a criminal. Sounds like the complete history of Russia in one sad, depressing sentence.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:34 | 5606650 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Ah, you just knew that the tarabel kookhrana would make an appearance and poop on the sidewalk. Just waiting for Amerikan Patridiot, Captain Butthole (nuke ISIS now), and another Latvian potato troll and the gathering of fappars will be complete.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:02 | 5606746 tarabel
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Hey, Stoogie,

How are things with you? Cold out here in the Centennial State. Trying to get the barn roof done so I can mount all the solar panels gathering dust in my back bedroom, but no luck on that front until probably next week.The ranch chores will have to pile up until this appropriately Russian weather moves on east.

Gas is cheap, however. I paid $1.88 a gallon on Sunday and my friend told me he just paid $1.75 today. What's it running in your neck of the woods?

I really don't understand why you're so upset. Everyone here is shouting that the protestors are CIA operatives and criminals. I just doubt that is true. Knowing how governments work, I don't believe the CIA could round up 15,000 people on a moment's notice even in the parking lot at Langely on pay day, so it sounds like a leap to accept the claim that they can do it on the streets of Moscow. As for criminals, I know they really aren't that civic-minded. Oh, they might show up at a protest but its just to break into some cars or maybe snatch a purse or two. But they aren't all going to get together and rob each other since they don't have any money or else why would they be out stealing stuff?

Anyhow, I hope you and your significant other are staying warm and got some good swag from Santa Claus. Unless you're Jewish or do the Kwanzaa thing, but my hopes for you remain the same-- always better days ahead.

GMC, baby.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 19:11 | 5607058 corsair
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 and another Latvian potato troll

I'm pretty sure that freedumb123 is viedoklis_lv (who seems to be banned)

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 19:01 | 5607031 corsair
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 they are all paid foreign agents and criminals

You forgot useful idiots.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:22 | 5606248 Counterpunch
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Yeah, CIA, State, USAID and other neocon run NGOs have never tried to destabilize or overthrow governments, "The Grand Chessboard" was secretly written by a Russian nationalist, and Victoria Nuland was not literally recorded hand-picking the new PM of Ukraine.

You need to up your trolling game.

Reflexive, obtuse support of the neocon agenda isn't exactly a breath of fresh air.  We can get your sort of ignorant pablum all over the MSM. 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:30 | 5606285 gcjohns1971
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Not to nit-pick, but CIA, State, USAID are all government organizations.

NGO means Non-Governmental Organization.

It kind of weakens the post when you confuse them.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:41 | 5606681 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

Not to nit-pick, but CIA, State, USAID are all government organizations.

NGO means Non-Governmental Organization.

Funniest thing you've ever written.

https://consortiumnews.com/2014/02/27/a-shadow-us-foreign-policy/

It kind of weakens the post when you confuse them.

So are you a shill, or just very, very gullible?

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 01:42 | 5617681 gallistic
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Stooge,

He is the no-shit real deal- a compensated .gov troll.

Looking back at his posting times, for at least the first 38 weeks he has was here, he would post on Monday-Friday during working hours, and never on a Federal holiday. His posts are consistent and sometimes quite crude regurgitations of .state@gov talking points and his memes are too closely related for chance. He obviously has no expertise or particular knowledge about the things he posts, and many times his posts are forced and farcical.

I (almost) feel sorry for the guy.

He is pathetic beyond words.

Wed, 12/31/2014 - 07:57 | 5608436 Counterpunch
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I didn't write that CIA or State or USAID were NGOs - I concede it was, read without any effort to understand the larger point, not clear that I meant all were neocon-run.

You can not, seriously, believe that anyone would suggest CIA or State was an NGO  - so the purpose of your rejoinder is curious, but little more.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:24 | 5606256 Max Steel
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First understand what's the issue then spout your hatred .

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:24 | 5606593 tarabel
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I understand the issue perfectly. You want these people to shut up.

I'm not afraid of what they have to say. I'm not afraid of what the people of Ferguson have to say. I'm not even afraid of what the people of Occupy Wall Street have to say.

If the CIA can turn out 15,000 paid protestors on the streets of Moscow on zero notice, they are doing one hell of a job and the FSB is a bunch of boobs. If, on the other hand, this dude can turn out 15,000 supporters of his "crimes" on zero notice, one has to wonder how much of an oppressor he really is.

If there are a group of Russian citizens willing to stand outside in the middle of a Moscow winter and call their government bad names, I think they deserve a little respect just for that.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:32 | 5606638 Max Steel
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Wrong perception . tHEY ARE CALLING IT BAD BECAUSE COURT CONVICTED NVALNY FOR HIS WRONG DOINGS AND SOME CITIZENS DON'T RESPECT LAW . FOR THEM HE IS ABOVE THAT . ISN'T THAT HOW US GUBMNT CONVERSE WITH ITS OWN HELPLESS AND VICTIMIZED CITIZENS . Americans are way too self absorbed to ever understand anything outside their own country. TARABEL let that sink in

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:37 | 5606662 tarabel
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So... you want these people to shut up because they are criminals?

Wed, 12/31/2014 - 09:23 | 5608547 Max Steel
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Oh! my dear govt apologist aka dumb tarabel cant you.comprehend simple sentence . navalny is a criminal and thise who support it are wrong thats their choice . he is a racist and paid western whore . got it  genius .

Wed, 12/31/2014 - 15:20 | 5609798 tarabel
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You guys really need to update your playbook. 

The racism account at the Western Guilt Bank is quite heavily overdrawn-- thanks to the American Putin-- and is not honoring any further withdrawls at this time.

But go ahead with your screed about how anybody who dissents from the Party Line is a paid tool of the West, a criminal, presumably a nazi and/or fascist, and, well, have I missed anything? Pure Russia, the way it was, the way it is, and unfortunately the way it is going to be in the future, apparently.

Funny how anybody who disagrees with Grandmother Putin is a criminal or a soon-to-be criminal. Have you noticed that?

And anybody who agrees with Grandmother Putin is the proud new owner of the assets "lawfully" stripped away from the disgraced criminal. Except for those criminals who were smart enough to get their money out of Russia before they went on their merry crime sprees against the Political Conformity Police.

But I do thank you for calling me both dumb and a genius. Both of those are okay by me since I don't worry about patronizing ad hominem observations.

By the way, how's the rubble doing today? Looks like more of that lovely pile of fx is going into the pockets of western speculators to keep things looking only halfway catastrophic for the rubes on the street. Yet still it sinks. Perhaps more wage and price controls to come, as in the price of vodka? More export restrictions, as in the sale of grain? More wealth confiscation, as in the forced sale of fx reserves from private parties to the central bank? More glowing soviet-style headlines of trade deals with bankrupt dictatorships or new pipelines that should be ready to go in ten years or so.

Weeeel, friends, I tell ya, we got trouble. Right here in Moscow River City. With a Capital T and that rhymes with P and that... doesn't stand for Navalyny or tarabel.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:07 | 5606176 JPMorgan
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Unfortunately if the US/CIA wasn't so known for starting and supporting shit like this you might actually take it seriously. 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:09 | 5606180 Jacksons Ghost
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CIA hard at work. What did Putin and the BRICS think? That we would go quietly? This is WAR! War to protect Fiat and ultimately the Dollar(worlds fiat reserve currency). "Fiat Wars" future generations will call it. We are just to close to see it now. 

 

PS.  ZH's see it and taught me to see it.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:14 | 5606211 Infinite QE
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Soros using US taxpayer funds again. Putin needs to start cracking some zionist heads and fast otherwise he's falling behind the battle here.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:40 | 5606678 Oldrepublic
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one thing I know , that, whereas I was blind, now I see . John 9

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:16 | 5606221 cowdogg
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It seems that the Israeli internet comment brigade is out in full force on this one.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:26 | 5606263 Counterpunch
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http://rt.com/op-edge/208947-russia-us-washington-think-tanks/

https://consortiumnews.com/2014/11/26/neocons-claim-to-fight-russian-unr...

 

It is, assuredly, pure coincidence that both USAID and the NED are run by Zionist tribesmen like Vicky Nudelman's husband.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:27 | 5606264 Max Steel
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It's the end of year mate and those shills need more shekels to celebrate new year .

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:23 | 5606258 Mi Naem
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This is really disturbing.  Could it be that Putin is not the Libertarian superhero whose shit doesn't stink, as we frequently hear from loyal alert readers here? 

No couldn't be.  Russians couldn't amass a gathering like this that is critical of their government without CIA manipulation. 

Ha!  Just wait til the USA finishes imploding, and these F'ers and their confreres in Beijing are calling the shots.  Out with the old boss, in with the new.  That was the plan for quite some time now boys and girls.

Did Communism Fake Its Own Death in 1991?  By Jason McNew January 16, 2010

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/did_communism_fake_its_own_dea.html

1978 Golitsyn Memo: Long-Range Objectives of the Soviet Leaders from "The Perestroika Deception"

http://www.scribd.com/doc/213346777/1978-Golitsyn-Memo-Long-Range-Objectives-of-the-Soviet-Leaders-from-The-Perestroika-Deception

 

 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:48 | 5606726 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Hmmmm, sounds like the kind of thing you'd hear from J.R. Nyquist.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL1Xt3T9ZnY&t=7s

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:01 | 5606781 Mi Naem
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What an asstoot comment. 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:24 | 5606260 The central planners
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George Soros was right in the corner giving away freshly printed $100 bills to the crowd along with a freshly copy of the anti-putin propaganda.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:27 | 5606282 Max Steel
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 Western hypocrisy is boundless. Navalny is a crook being treated with kid gloves. In the US they would have thrown away the keys .

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:42 | 5606357 gcjohns1971
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Yeah.

Like an openly subversive communist-sympathizer community organizer... wait!  Bad example!

No...

Like an an academic advisor to a government organization on some policy project like, let's say health-care, who receives millions in unexplained compensation AFTER services have supposedly stopped, and who then is caught on tape making all sorts of comments embarrassing to the government...

Damn!

Another bad example!  And that one was so close!  Almost a blow-for-blow exact fit, in fact.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:51 | 5606408 Max Steel
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rephrase .

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:12 | 5606542 gcjohns1971
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I think the Navalny story is startlingly similar to the Gruber story.

It is interesting to what a degree they mirror one another.

Both academics.

Both hire on as advisor's to the government.

Both get huge payments after the 'consultation' period supposedly finished.

Both subsequently embarrassed the government with their statements.

Both also directly embarrassed politicians and made them look bad.

Navalny was then tried and convicted for embezzling the money received from the government.

But somehow still had enough clout to avoid prison, and run for mayor.

I wonder how long it will be before Gruber is endicted for the $5Million in consultation fees he received AFTER his Obamacare consultation was supposedly done?

People are already talking about it.

It will become even more interesting if he either avoids prosecution, or directly enters politics.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:05 | 5606492 walküre
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you kidding? crooks get promoted into high political positions in this country

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:35 | 5606315 gcjohns1971
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A restrained, but heavy Police response is called for when there are riots, burning stores, people attacked on the streets.

If you want to know why VOICES are so dangerous that they require riot-police, just read De La Boettie.

 

What is happening all over the world, not particular to this protest and not necessarily in Russia in particular, is a contest between MAO's dictum, "Political strenge emerges from the barrel of a gun", and De La Boettie's dictum that, "but for the support of average men, the grandest leader would collapse like the Collossus robbed of it's base".

So...for the MAO's out there, why exactly are a mere 10-15K people raising their voices in a nation of 150 million dangerous?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:40 | 5606355 Max Steel
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Don't generalize and keep your dictum with yourself . He committed a crime and got convicted just because he is a political activist does not mean you've to apply all your  regurgitating bullshit .

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:42 | 5606370 gcjohns1971
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Not my dictums.

MAO's dictum.

De LaBoettie's dictum.

I could give a shit about Navalny....except to note the similarity with Gruber.

Wed, 12/31/2014 - 00:28 | 5606666 Volkodav
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only 1500

of which many is gawkers, reporters and other not protest

over 100 detained some misbehaved and also real trouble makers, including weapons

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:39 | 5606328 Hamm Jamm
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NO PUTIN OBAMA....  NO WAR !

 

both leaders are garbage working for the banks...     don't sign up for anymore bank wars ... Put the banks to the gallows !!

 

World peace = death to the bankers !

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:50 | 5606395 Max Steel
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Wrong . Putin didn't start any war unless he was provoked by usa both in ukraine and syria . The only thing that can be expected from the next US president is more war, more murder, and more oppression of the gullible American people. People as uninformed and as gullible as Americans have no future. Americans are a dead people that history is about to run over.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:22 | 5606806 FJF
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We will agree to disagree.

If you like Putin so much, you should move to Russia. Every country has it's pluses and minuses. However, Russia has 99% minuses (they must have at least one plus, however, right now, non come to mind).

The sooner Putin is kicked out, the world will be a better place.

Wed, 12/31/2014 - 00:25 | 5608030 Volkodav
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useless talkings

Wed, 12/31/2014 - 10:15 | 5608630 Max Steel
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I fully support Russia against empire of chaos actions and deeds . They have shown their true colors . The sooner the US mend its ways world will be more peaceful . I'll live wherever i want . I.dont ned your advice troll . If you love your crappy lies then go work for state department . Others have had enough of your bs . Moan as loud you can .

EAT A CROW YANKEE . IT WILL HELP .

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:08 | 5606807 FJF
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Max Steel.....you haven't got a clue as to what you are talking about (that would make you clueless).........Putin is the most dangerous perosn around. Putin has absolutely no right to be interfering with Ukraine. The uninformed and gullible people live mostly in Russia.....just give them subsidized vodka and they'll be happy. (that's probably why Putin is placing price controls on Vodka).

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:14 | 5606827 Bankster Kibble
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Not really, Russia did not start either the Ukraine civil war in 2014 or the 5-day Georgia war in 2008.  Russia did not start to move in Ukraine until Kiev threatened to nullify the Sebastopol lease, and the Eastern Ukrainians did not start to occupy police stations until Kiev threatened to revoke their citizenship for speaking Russian.  Check out Ukraine news articles about the Rada right after the coup.  The Rada cooked its own goose within days after the president fled the country.

 

I agree Putin is dangerous - he insists on saying "no" to our dreams of world conquest and has the backbone to back up what he says.  Too bad we've made him into such an enemy.

Wed, 12/31/2014 - 00:21 | 5608017 Volkodav
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bs   idiot post

Wed, 12/31/2014 - 09:36 | 5608569 Max Steel
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sorry fjf apologist for not parroting your govt rhetoric . usa has shown its true colors . Forgive me . :'( 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:43 | 5606367 sam i am
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There are no Russians protesting, but Ukies and Jews. They are getting ready to rip Russia apart and genocide all the Russians.

6 millions Ukrainians live in Russia now. Kick them all back to promised land of Nulandstan.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 16:49 | 5606397 me or you
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How many out of these 15000 are Russian secret servicemen? 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:05 | 5606487 walküre
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Americans are way too self absorbed to ever understand anything outside their own country. I'm even exaggerating that part. Just stay out of it for the benefit of everyone else.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:08 | 5606520 seataka
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One of the founders of the 1992 Patriot Party of Virginia is

ROOT'n for PUTIN!

 

 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:16 | 5606565 NubianSundance
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'immigrants are like dental caries' is apparently one of Alexei Navalny's interesting thoughts. He's a bit of a right-winger as far as I can make out with supposedly anti Jewish leanings too. Trouble is it is very difficult to tell what the real truth is in this era of disinformation.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:22 | 5606591 Karaio
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In Brazil and Venezuela something happened, 15,000 demonstrators.

To the Federal Police step in, find some bags with dollars to pay 50.00 each trained demonstrator.

Ukraine was also well.

As they say, that's flash in the pan, fast burning.

In Brazil, the "bell" is a fugitive in Venezuela a lot of sons of bitches in the service of CIA prisoners.

Ukraine did nothing and gave in to him.

I'm just citing the recent, failed Libya, Egypt, Syria etc. .

With the Russian SWIFT the money will only come in diplomatic bags.

In the case of Russia, these guys do not fill half a Gulag in Siberia!

Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:24 | 5606600 Karaio
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Oh, I forgot, China and Hong Kong.

hehe.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:45 | 5606705 Bankster Kibble
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Dang, $50?  Where can I get a job like that?  Is it just a couple of hours waving a sign and saying down with the government?  I can do that and keep my day job.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:11 | 5606817 Karaio
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Talk to Nuland, she spent 5 million of your tax to fuck Ukraine.

Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:16 | 5606835 Bankster Kibble
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I think I'll have better luck getting $50 than the $5 billion Nuland and her neo-con pals threw down that rat hole.  Thanks for the recommendation, though.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:48 | 5606720 Peter Pan
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Of course Russia suffers from corruption and Putin recently did state that this was something that warranted attentionngoing forward.

My only question is, when was the last time we saw protests against official corruption in the west?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:48 | 5606725 gina distrusts gov
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Round up the fools try them all for treasona nice 30 year term in some hell hole for colaberating with the cia

close all the NGO's try the operators as spys then hang em high

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 17:57 | 5606760 Uranus Hertz
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Alexei Navalny, recent Yalie, no graduation date. 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:19 | 5606845 MKD
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what spins me out is that they were chanting Crimea is not ours and no war.

 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:31 | 5606887 Karaio
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Ow!

You are not so stupid to the point of not realizing that a significant number of opinion leaders (lawyers, engineers, doctors, teachers and even some politicians) already know the standard way to destabilize their countries?

Do you think Brazilians who have suffered 16 years of military dictatorship not identify the infiltrators?

People like me who had the father prisoner by nationalist political convictions that did not interest the stabeleshiment know very well what is the state, which is Nation, which is to protect our interests.

If the gasoline reach 10 Reais (= or - Us $ 5.00) a liter, we will pay because PETROBRAS is ours!

The Russians can eat cucumber, Chinese rice for years and the Indians, and has the same sense of nationalism.

No matter the mainstream media for us.

I like ZeroHedge because here I find a diversity of cultures insane.

Only in that way and through that link could explain some Americans what passes in our countries for you.

Thank you.

I think I spoke too.

:-)

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 19:27 | 5607152 smacker
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Karaio,

Can you give us the inside story on the huge corruption scandal that Petrobrás is engulfed in??

Does it reach up to Dilma Rousseff or her PT political party??

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 19:52 | 5607254 Karaio
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I do not like Dilma.

I think it is a necessary evil in order to continue part of the BRICS.

When your nation fail, you'll understand what I'm saying.

No offense, it's just my personal opinion.

:-)

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 20:21 | 5607340 Karaio
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As for corruption, began in the Military Government, entered in the death of Tancredo Neves, continued in Fernando Henrique Cardoso with the privatization of many key areas that were once prerogative of the state, were State companies such as Cosipa (Paulista Steel Company) the largest mining company in the world, Companhia Vale do Rio Doce (where you have gold-niobium), among other privatized State companies.

The son of a bitch Fernando Henrique disarmed the Brazilian, if you need a gun today need dealers to provide you.

All this came to hit the bulge with the English and that cow Margaretch Thatcher and her Neoliberalism.

A book you can try to find to explain corruption in the sale of State in Brazil is:

 

The Privataria Tucana.

 

Link to download in .pdf for many, this is just one of them, do not know if there is English version, there must be:

 

http://umhistoriador.wordpress.com/2012/01/01/privataria-tucana/

 

This book is like "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" or "The Dictatorship of Cartels" (1970s), are banned books in the mainstream press.

 

Now, to answer your question:

 

I do not think this scandal Chege corruption Dilma, it's like there, nothing comes to a President.

Maximum reaches the Party, to some party.

Comes to those who collect money for the elections and only!

Indeed, who is candidate (a) does not even know who pays the gasoline aircraft much less who pays the flyers and parties with fireworks.

I hope that has given you some arrows where to look.

Kind Regards.

Alexandre.

:-)

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 20:48 | 5607455 smacker
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Thanks for the info. I'll do some reseach on your links and see what I can dig up.

Wed, 12/31/2014 - 03:39 | 5608254 smacker
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Oh dear. Corruption, corruption and still more corruption.

I'm surprised Amaury Ribeiro Jr, the author of Privataria Tucana, hasn't been assassinated already.

I thought that Brazil corruption may be coming under control since Fernando Collor de Mello was impeached and the mysterious death (found dead in a Maceió hotel room from gunshot wounds) of de Mello's "banker" who handled all his illicit money laundering.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 20:47 | 5607454 smacker
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My best Brazilian friend dislikes her too and reckons she's a 'sapatão'. Not sure if that's true of her. I tend to see her as a modern day Dusty Springfield with that birds nest hair style she wears (!)

And you're right. She is a necessity for the progress of BRICS. Her opponent in October was in the pocket of Washington and wanted to scale BRICS down.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 21:47 | 5607645 Karaio
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We know how and the reason that jet with the second candidate was shot down in Santos-SP, make no mistake.

There are things between heaven and earth that human mortals can not imagine.

The pilot when it failed, had the decency to stick the Learjet in one hole, just killed whoever was inside the aircraft.

They had to dig nearly six feet deep to find something.

The guy is a hero!

This service of "alphabet soup" also failed.

Could have killed many people.

The city of Santos (where I was born) is overpopulated.

The thing was sabotage, everyone here knows.

At first I thought up some vultures entering the turbines but then talking to acquaintances, I saw that the thing was very different.

Can you imagine something about if I'm afraid to write this in ZeroHedge, I have not.

:-)

Wed, 12/31/2014 - 03:18 | 5608245 smacker
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Interesting stuff. I recall that vultures were the official cause of tha crash and they are a recognised problem in that area due to favellas and rubbish tips.

Then again, when such an accident happens with a political VIP on board who is a threat to the incumbent leader, many theories are bound to surface.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:38 | 5606903 Otto Zitte
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Its all for the cameras. Staged media event. Meaningless.

Its all bullshit, folks. 

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:43 | 5606921 sam i am
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"No Putin" means No Russia. Simple.

Thanks God for Putin!

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 18:47 | 5606947 czarangelus
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Am I really expected to believe there's 15,000 people in all Russia who are not relieved and escatic that they've retaken Crimea, one of the modern Rus peoples' ancient cultural touchstones?
Sorry Ziomedia, I don't believe it.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 19:30 | 5607159 Karaio
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I agree with you!

I wanted to see 15,000 people in the DC -50 ° C (Celsius) defend Obummer 50 without receiving money.

Kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 19:10 | 5607060 Quinvarius
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Moscow low turn out for demonstration explained by organizer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i5i1Q_vcY4

Believe the MSM news lies about 15k people or the video showing almost no one there.  Now you have the organizer making excuses.  The State Dept BS doesn't work in Russia.  And the State Dept dumbasses who tried this stunt should leave the country.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 19:23 | 5607122 smacker
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Something odd about this. Navalny is a real life crook according to several commentators I've seen, not just an anti-Putin protester being punished as it's being portrayed by certain parts of MSM.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 20:02 | 5607292 Son of Captain Nemo
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Gotta hand it to Darth Soros.

He never knows when to say when. Epecially when he's losing all of the battles.

10 to 15 thousand?...  We had 50,000 protestors march on Washington D.C. in August for the destruction by Israel in the Gaza and this NGO stunt is 1/5 of that!

Georgy will have to do far better than that if he wants a revolution to overthrow the sitting government let alone it's President!

Wed, 12/31/2014 - 00:12 | 5608004 Volkodav
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media lies again

1500 max including gawkers, reporters, etc.

100 plus detained, some real maidan trouble maker types

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 20:19 | 5607317 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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George Soros can't take down Russia with currency manipulation, so he send his goons like he done in Hong-Kong, seriously how this guy haven't got his free nail gun yet ?

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 20:36 | 5607402 theyjustcantstop
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looks like a flash-mob of young people, who if putin goes will be eating borsch for the rest of their lives.

Tue, 12/30/2014 - 22:10 | 5607721 Karaio
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Do you think that the President of Poland and all the staff it died acidante?

 

Ho, Ho, Ho!

 

Nice Christmas present, try to think about it ....

 

Poland escaped? Do Not! Become a TARGET!

 

Where is the security of oil in Latin America? In Venezuela with their Migs that can attack up to 4,000 miles away.

 

The submarine base is in Brazil, for anything.

 

Argentina is preparing to welcome some Russian.

 

The Cucarachas are no longer backyard.

 

Leave more time with the crash, and you will no longer have to make stainless steel Niobium that Brazil has 99% of the deposits. The flotation process is well known and understood.

Has no more rare minerals (rare earth) of China to make a simple sponge in a nuclear ballistic missile.

I've made a lot of beer, I await the time zone of the Trolls, they work spindles note.

The guys have had enough talk that Dimona is cracking, there is radioactivity leak there, they can not change a huge steel pipe is corroded because they do not know who produced - were the Russians!

hehe.

Sat, 01/03/2015 - 16:17 | 5618795 gallistic
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Karaio,

Minor correction on Venezuela's planes- they are Sukhoi SU30MKV "Flankers", not MiGs, but yes, you are right. They are sweet, supermaneuverable, and highly underrated 4++ fighters. 

I sometimes have a little difficulty understanding bits and pieces of your posts, but I am sure if I tried to post in Portuguese, mine would be much worse. I do enjoy your perspective on things. It keeps many people here honest, and breaks up the "group-think".

Cheers.

 

Wed, 12/31/2014 - 02:36 | 5608220 vatnique
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Ilya Mouzykantskii is definitely Russian speaking person, why is he writing in English?

10k people and he can not see end of the croud, lol. I was there to look at those 'protesters', here is the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vqEl2rMrdE
Where did they found at least 1000 people? Most of those people were police officers, journalists and bloggers.

Wed, 12/31/2014 - 06:23 | 5608358 Volkodav
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