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AirAsia Wreckage Reveals Latest Plane Crash Mystery
Update: sure enough, the story has changed. Per the Reuters update:
Tatang Zaenudin, an official with Indonesia's search and rescue agency, said earlier that one of the bodies had been found wearing a life jacket.
But he later said no victim had been recovered with a life jacket on.
"We found a body at 8.20 a.m. and a life jacket at 10.32 a.m. so there was a time difference. This is the latest information we have," he told Reuters.
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In a year full of airplane crash mysteries, starting with the still undiscovered Malaysia flight MH-370, going through that 'other' Malaysian flight, MH-17, where the debate of just who shot it down will also never be resolved to everyone's satisfaction, it was only fitting that in closing the year, the wreckage of AirAsia flight QZ8501 which now has been confirmed to have crashed this past weekend 40 minutes into its flight from Surabaya to Singapore, should provide the latest unexplained mystery.
First a quick update on the rescue effort: as Reuters reported earlier today, the wreckage appears to have been uncovered after rescuers said they have found the plane on the sea floor off Borneo, where sonar detected a large, dark object beneath waters near where debris and bodies were found on the surface.
Ships and planes had been scouring the Java Sea for Flight QZ8501 since Sunday, when it lost contact during bad weather about 40 minutes into its flight from Surabaya to Singapore.
Seven bodies have been recovered from the sea, some fully clothed, which could indicate the Airbus A320-200 was intact when it hit the water. That would support a theory that it suffered an aerodynamic stall.
So far nothing surprising. And yet what is strange is that also from Reuters we learn that "a body recovered on Wednesday from the crashed AirAsia plane was wearing a life jacket, an Indonesian search and rescue official said, raising new questions about how the disaster unfolded.
"This morning, we recovered a total of four bodies and one of them was wearing a life jacket," Tatang Zaenudin, an official with the search and rescue agency, told Reuters.
He declined to speculate on what the find might mean. AirAsia Chief Executive Tony Fernandes told reporters there had been no confirmation yet of the sonar image, nor of the discovery of the body wearing a life jacket.
Why is this surprising? Because as Reuters also conveniently notes, the fact that one person put on a life jacket suggests those on board had time before the aircraft hit the water, or before it sank. And yet the pilots did not issue a distress signal. The plane disappeared after it asked for permission to fly higher to avoid bad weather."
A pilot who works for a Gulf carrier said the life jacket indicated the cause of the crash was not "catastrophic failure". Instead, the plane could have stalled and then come down, possibly because its instruments iced up and gave the pilots inaccurate readings.
"There was time. It means the thing didn't just fall out of the sky," said the pilot, who declined to be identified.
He said it could take a minute for a plane to come down from 30,000 feet and the pilots could have experienced "tunnel vision ... too overloaded" to send a distress call.
So... a plunging plane with over 160 people on board, a very experienced pilot, in fact a former air force fighter pilot with 6,100 flying hours under his belt, a sturdy Airbus 320 with hardly any crashes or fatalities in its history, one that last underwent maintenance just a month ago in mid-November... and then suddenly everything goes to hell, the pilots lose control and are somehow "too overloaded" to send a distress call?
Hardly; in fact the story makes no sense at all, which brings us to the latest unexplained airplane crash mystery.
Which is why we expect this story to be promptly revised as this type of loose end is hardly acceptable to those who enjoy controlling a laminar, free-flowing narrative.
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Gremlins from the Kremlin? Kim? no? Castro? Iran? had to be. If not, then....Snowden did it, or Tea Party.
Maybe the passenger was wearing a life vest upon boarding.
May become standard practice.
I wonder what US airport security or a pilot might do if a passenger attempted to board a plane wearing a fire-proof suit, life preserver and crash helmet. I suspect he'd be taken into custody.
A buddy of mine flys with his parachute all the time that he carrys on.
Hazmet suit for Ebola too!
CNN quotes 'intelligence sources' which claim that a Russian fighter jet was seen in the vicinity around the time the plane disappeared. /sarc
I realized that since the intelligence sources are "unidentified and unnamed", the claims must be true.
And the wreckage was torpedoed by the Russian sub last seen lurking in Swedish waters.
Putin did this too and Obama will be coming our shortly with the youtube evidence provided by Kiev.
The 'debris' photos were pathetic. One looked like a plank of wood!
Looked like about 6' of 2"x4". They building planes out of that?
Remember when Carl Cameron of FOX News told the world about AMDOCS, Comverse Infosystems and the little Israeli company that perfected pilotless control of an aircraft?...
Seems like only yesterday and more than 13 years later that technology only gets better and better along with the bribery and murder(s) that go along with it!
Thanks alexmark2013 for that bit of informative news. Reminds me of the executive from Akamai that allegedly was on one of the flights that hit the Towers...
This might be the guy you have in mind Nemo.
It'a a false Flag until proven otherwise and if I have to bet my life WHO DID IT I bet it WAS those neo-con fascists TRAITORS and ZIONIST whores AS USUAL.
Do you actually believe what you wrote?
Nutball alert. Buy more gold. It's getting cheaper!
Please bet your life on it. Come on, go all-in.
Biff Tannen: What are you looking at, butthead?
Skinhead: Hey, Biff, get a load of this guy's life preserver. Dork thinks he's gonna drown.
Any pilot who put the plane into a stall by ignorantly slowing at altitude, besides trying really hard to remember what to do in an airliner flying straight down tail first, may also be too embarrassed if nothing else to issue a mayday.
But you'd think there would be some kind of automatic squawk, and I guess there is supposed to be but judging from some stuff on Aviation Week it seldom works very well. Airlines don't really want to spend a lot of money on something that loudly and clearly announces to the world, "Hey our pretty $100,000,000 airplane is just about to break up killing all on board."
I'm waiting for CNN & PMSNBC to tell me the plane went into a "black hole". Don Lemon, somehow, can't be reached for comment.
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Being a former fighter pilot isn't really relevant. How many hours in type did the pilot have?
Over 20,000 hours
So many things have to happen for a plane to crash, so many redundant checks have to fail, it usually comes down to, the plane just didn't want to fly that day.
All we know is that the plane left point A, hit bad weather, and clearly never made it to point B. The odds that it was something nefarious is quite low, in my opinion.
Maybe it hit a black swan.
Flock em!
The rational scientific mind has trouble accepting numerology, ritual slayings, and other outputs of mystery religions. One tactic of these “religions” is to break down their adherents and induce some sort of mental/psychotic break. Usually those in the higher ranks of the lodges and their affiliated secret societies have passed through some sort of break down ritual. These people are no longer rational and are actual created psychopaths, now in thrall to Zohar, Kaballah or other Usury funded mysteries.
Usury funded rental gains through the money system are tremendous, perhaps upward of 40 percent of world economy. In the past it took only 1 generation for usury to put “house to house” and gain control of society. This is why Jews were kicked out of Europe 120 times. Today these rental gains are through interest compounding. Rental gains through usury funnels into ‘international’ pyramid with private credit banking and all connected reserve loops. Zohar and Kaballah and Talmud are all intertwined with usury as funding and money power control. Ultimately, it is rent taking on the world which funds the mysteries, and hence rational civilization is funding its own dispossession. Normal laboring humans will continue to work harder even as production gets more efficient with high tech methods, as their output is shifted away from them in the form of prices. Rental gains through usury finance are shifting the worlds surplus economic output toward world government power control grid.
It’s no secret that Malaysia is outspoken and critical of IMF and other World Government institutions. Malaysia also thumbed their nose at IMF during Asian Currency Crises and used sovereign money methods to recover. Any attempt by Nations to move to lawful Sovereign money will be met with extreme mysterious coordinated violence. Usually mystery slayings include numerology and astrology. For example, the Kennedy family slayings had constellations in alignment and also were on key numerology days. The overarching goal of Kaballah , Zohar and Talmud is to have the world ready for their messiah by using Tikkun. Having the temple rebuilt is a simultaneous overarching goal.
International credit is in control of the West, and an arm of this credit is guaranteed with pathological warfare (war by deception) methods, which in turn uses false religion as organization, cover, and shield. Real Kings and Queens and leaders from the past, who wanted to do the right thing by their population, would often find themselves used as sword arms of the mysteries, especially as they became dupes and debt slaves. All successful parasites attack brain center or reproductive centers of healthy hosts. The parasite will even breed into nobility if necessary. Those that don’t submit, and are a threat, will be assassinated. The parasite wants to survive and has psychopathy, religion, money power, and often real military power through its sword arms.
There can be no real civil society for normal humanity, until usury funded money power problem is solved.
So, the Reptilians did it?
The lower brain functions fire 500mSec before the higher functions. The higher functions will make up "stories" to account for irrationality, this is necessary for human function when information is incomplete or in contradiction.
Reg Morrison explains this in his educational writing, below is an excerpt. The short answer is the reptilian part of our brain does quite a bit of functioning, and its genetic desires are expressed in the mysteries.
http://regmorrison.edublogs.org/1999/07/20/plague-species-the-spirit-in-...
Cute.
I think the plane crashed because of the storm and possible insrument failure.
This is my first post on Zerohedge. I opened this account 3 years ago and thought my application was rejected. I found out tonight it was not while trying to open a new account.
Since you mentioned numerology notice the flight numbers on the three flights. MH17, MH370, QZ8501.
8501+370+17=8888=404x22.
There are 22 chapters and 404 verses on the book of revelations.
This is your first night at fight club so you HAVE to fight.
So, this is your first time posting, and you want to post this shit? Seriously? They should have rejected you. Early term abortion.
(Okay, now you hit me back see, by telling me I'm a moron and this is a fucking joke, and I should know that you could not be serious. Or defend it).
Thanks MEFO. Good stuff.
"A pilot who works for a Gulf carrier said the life jacket indicated the cause of the crash was not "catastrophic failure". Instead, the plane could have stalled and then come down, possibly because its instruments iced up and gave the pilots inaccurate readings."
The pitot tubes became blocked with ice. No air speed being measured. Flight control computers shut down. Pilot lost knowledge of his actual air speed, altitude. Quickly became disorientated.
"AF447-II"
Investigators need to check if the plane was retro-fitted with modified pitot tubes.
Pitot tubes usually have heaters. I was a trained technician on these systems.
Icing has happened in past, but is unlikely given modern design. Flight data recorder info should tell the real story, if said data is made available.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pitot_tube
Is a routine check of sensor continuity conducted before flight?
They should measure the resistance of the heater coils to make sure they are intact.
I would use a high-impedance check circuit to maintain surveillance of the pitot heaters. All you need if the supervisory voltage fails would be an idiot light on the panel. Then I would have a backup heater circuit which should trip on failure of supervisory voltage and alert the pilot. Then I would have a manual heater circuit also supervised I could engage.
"Primary Pitot heater has failed Captain. We are operating on backup."
"Roger. We had better take control. Disengage Autopilot."
"Affirmative. Autopilot disengaged. The plane is yours, Captain."
Good ideas
"Pitot tubes usually have heaters."
Your operative word there is "usually". The Air France AF447 pitot tubes became frozen and blocked after encountering super-cooled water (pure water which is still liquid at way below 0C), but which immediately froze on contact with pitot tubes. This caused the flight control systems to shut down. Chaos in the cockpit soon followed.
Airbus specified retro-fit of new redesigned pitot tubes to their planes, but it's not clear if this AirAsia plane had been modified yet.
" Malaysian flight, MH-17, where the debate of just who shot it down will also never be resolved to everyone's satisfaction,"
That is a lie! Designed to cover for the Ukrainian Air Force which did, by much credible evidence and eyewitnesses down MH-17.
It is very clever though, to say something like that. As if there is not real evidence available to prove who did it and how. This tactic of saying it is a mystery is Orwellian and typical when the west has been caught out in a giant lie.
Yes, we do know who downed MH-17, and NO we don't need to satisfy anyone according to their polical stance. When an SU-25 guns and missiles a plane out of the sky in front of witnesses on the ground, when the plane shows the cannon shell holes all around the cockpit, when two Ukrainian soldiers have come forward to disprove both Ukrainian lies about the rebel BUK, and the Ukrianian claim that no SU-25 fighters flew that day or in that area. They have come forward and prove that Kiev lies on both counts.
What the above quote is, is a simple cover story telling YOU how to think. THINK, "Oh well, we will never know, so rebels may have done it". Bullshit! We have all forms of proof to show who did it, and the West is trying to cover it up, but can't.
Surely you don't mean that the media.........misleads us? Set my mind at ease. Tell me you don't think that.
The radar says he was only flying at 100mph...way to slow for that plane...and to start a climb at that speed is certain stall....he went into a stall and could not come out of it I think...he was an F16 pilot and had over 20,000 hours....that is some good experience....so pulling Gs should not have bothered him...and they probably were on their way down...its something in the Airbus electonics that gives bad info I think..just like the Air France...and it was daylight out when this happened...time will tell after the black boxes are found..and they will be...
There are differences between indicated air speed and ground air speed, so it gets confusing. Evidently the plane was going about 180, near the stall speed of 160 for that altitude and winds. To climb to 38,000 feet under those circumstances made no sense especially since the operating ceiling for Airbus 320's is 39,000 ft. Captain may not have had enough fuel for divert completely around the weather so tried to go above it, then encountered a massive updraft and all hell broke loose.
Anyway, we'll find out since the recorders will no doubt be located in such shallow waters.
Lots of aircraft data floating around
General Electric Helps China Get First Commercial Aircraft Certification
Prepare For More Fake NATO Russia Jet Incursions / Aggression Near U.K.
Russia To Share Civilian Radar Data With NATO Countries
Air China To Buy 60 Boeing B737 Aircraft For $5.9 Billion
French Government Sells 50% Stake of Toulouse Airport to Chinese Consortium
Iran Opens First Civilian Helicopter Pilot Training Center Using U.S. Helicopters
Russia’s VSMPO Passes FAA Audit As Supplier For Boeing
Boeing Delivers Ten Apache Attack Helicopters To Egypt
Boeing Back to Business in Iran
"a body recovered on Wednesday from the crashed AirAsia plane was wearing a life jacket, an Indonesian search and rescue official said, raising new questions about how the disaster unfolded."
The official later commented, "Upon further research we found the passenger was actually a dedicated fan of back to the future, his life preserver was a replica Marty vest, his luggage also contained a hoverboard".
When a plane crashes like this, we find out who was swimming with no suit on. All these highly paid airline managers, who strut around like they actually know something about airplanes and airlines, are confronted with having to speak in public about real technical issues and face real customer's families. That is when these "empty suits" melt down. In fact, they are not the world's best and brightest, who earned top management positions by their skills and intelligence, drive and insight. Nope, more likley they got there by cutting others throats, bean counting and crushing workers wages and benefits for higher stock prices. Or worse, they are the brother in law or nephew of another big time executive. Or maybe they can just talk fast and bullshit people. This is the type I see most often. The slick bullshiters who suck their way up the ladder leaving knives in other's backs on the way.
Lots of family connections like that douchebag daughter of that Korean airline CEO who had some executive position and forced a jetliner to return to the gate over a bag of macademia nuts. At least the Korean authorities have green-lighted her potential arrest.
Nobody was wearing a life jacket. That was an erroneous report. There was a life jacket floating in the area of the recovered body, that's all. Since life jackets or floatation devices are on all seats, this is not exactly surprising. Then again, it's a slow day at ZH.
This may have more to do with the operating systems Airbus employs when the pitot tubes freeze, similar to Air France 447 that went down under similar circumstances over the Atlantic a few years back. That aircraft went into a stall that was misunderstood by the crew from which they never recovered. The Air Asia situation seems more extreme in terms of weather.
"when the pitot tubes freeze"
If this indeed was one of the major problems, it shows an deep flaw in engineering of air speed censors. I have some old time experience with analog electronics for Navy Anti Submarine systems, and industrial controls in civilian life. I also studied digital electronics and logic circuits as digital moved into the world of military and civilian electronics.
I read up on the Air France crash, and the system for air speed indication. Since then, I have had a great fear of flying in bad weather. This system has a fundamental flaw. I don't know avaiation systems, but isn't their some other way to engineer a system for air speed, using the laws of physics. Hire a top level physicist to help the engineers. Right now, though the present systems work near perfect, I just think something better is out there to discover.
Jack, I don't know what Boeing's design is but they do not use that pitot tube design. The Fly By Wire Airbus system then reacts to the loss of airspeed data by doing things that put 447 into a stall which was not recognized by the crew. Supposedly pilots have been retrained for all this but.....
Inetial Nav uses an intertial mass to plot position. Laser Gyroscopes uses doppler type frequency shifts to resolve minute angular changes. GPS information is available. The ground is pinged with radar when you get close.
Freezing of pitot tubes is overcome with heaters. Simple inline electrical resistance heaters work fine and last long time. Planes operate all the time in extreme conditions. I personally have tested may pitot heaters, but a long time ago.
I'm not sure if he heaters on Air France 447 pitot tubes are flipped on manually or automaticlly, though. This could be a design flaw.
Another real problem is embedded in below quote:
"The fact is there aren't many opportunities for a pilot to hand fly the aircraft anymore," he said. "The truth is it's only a few minutes during each flight, maybe until they climb up to altitude. Many airplanes don't even allow the hand flying for that long."
At the heart of the heated debate over so-called "automation addiction," which is when pilots are overly dependent on computers to fly their planes, is the question of whether pilots are actually learning how to properly fly large commercial aircraft.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/air-france-flight-447-crash-didnt-happen-e...
You, my friend, are too fucking slow to comment to get any votes of significance. In other words, your shit show is crap. Can I suggest you get in earlier, or give up, because, by crikey, I am sure I am the only masturbator reading your post.
Hmmm too much automation?
The entire subject of air speed sensors needs to be re-evaluated.
Airspeed is the important factor while in the air.
The Air France crash between Brazil and France should have resulted in modified pitot sensors for aircrafts.
For all I know, they are already working on it. I would think a check sensor on the pitot tubes would already exist. They need to be kept free of ice buildup in order to measure the airflow @ x altitude.
However, the sheer number of flights worldwide/day with safe trips is not often considered when a crash reveals a flaw. This may pertain only to the Airbus design and not all aircraft models.
How can it only take a minute to fall 30,000 feet?
From what I've read elsewhere it should take about 3 minutes, depending on whether the aircraft remained intact or broke apart in the air. We just don't know what happened yet.
Lets see now, how about everybody jumps gleefully into the contaminated and radioactive waters. All together now!
http://o.canada.com/news/fallout-from-radioactive-fukushima-rising-in-we...
Victory Garden, you are so fucking sad. You make me want to leave this place, so great is your stupidity.
Elaine Dickinson: Ladies and gentlemen, this is your stewardess speaking... We're regret any inconvenience the sudden cabin movement might have caused, this is due to periodic air pockets we encountered, there's no reason to become alarmed, and we hope you enjoy the rest of your flight... By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly a plane?
It never gets old.
Grow up, not down or sideways.
Think outside the box.
As Dr. Roy Spencer once said:
Between the TWA800 black bag job and the JFK Jr. crashcourseincoverup, I don't believe much airplane related stuff anymore.
The wild card is human nature. The best training, plans and procedures can be obliterated when one or more humans doesn't behave according to plan.
Any situation involving fear and panic is simply not predictable, nor is it easy to figure out afterwards. There are several reasons I can think of why there was no distress signal sent...
1) Things happened very quickly, and in the chaos, both pilot and co-pilot thought the other had done it and were doing other things...
2)Whatever malfunctioned caused a problem with the equipment and the signal couldn't be sent.
3)The signal WAS sent, and the problem was with the receiving side.
4)Something happened with the passengers...someone panicked or lost it and one of the pilots had to help the cabin staff, leaving only the one in the cockpit, and he was too busy to send the signal as everything went wrong.
Even the best-trained people can fail to perform under extreme circumstances, even the best-made and maintained equipment can fail to work as designed, and any random grouping of people has a good chance of containing at least one who isn't playing with a full deck.
And finally, sometimes shit just HAPPENS.
Sometimes shit happens, sure.
US weapons airdrop goes straight to ISIS....again!But sometimes the shit that happens happens for a reason.
Talking about possibilities, OT. Must be retarded delinquent traders.
http://www.infowars.com/airasia-ceo-dumped-shares-days-before-flight-dis...
Connect fuckin dots.
Where are those 9/11 black boxes again??
maybe JINSA has them?
Probably in the cargohold of MH-370.
the story certainly has a fishy smell.
we need a manifest of the passengers to figure out if it anyone "important" or "really important" was aboard, or,
if that wasn't it, what could have been the pilots' motivation to crash?
finally, the "tunnel vision" theory, i would posit, could still be a plausible theory. even the most experienced of pilots and even the most experienced of ex-fighter pilots are not immune to a "freak occurrence"
thus, in light of all the fishy information which I definitely agree is very fishy indeed, we must also acknowledge that outlier "freak occurrences" can occur, do occur, and have occurred.
in the end, it is likely we will have to come to peace with the possibility that we may never figure out the entire thing and we may never have full certainty.
may they rest in peace, those who died.
If I was going down in a plane I would be issuing plenty of maydays with as much info as could be spluttered out, so that if the worst happens maybe, just maybe, someone can rescue us. To think that pilots wouldn't do that is also to think that they have given up on survival altogether (whatever happens), in which case they would be calmly sat in their seats awaiting their demise. Human nature is the former, the latter would never happen.
As always the story never adds up.
Flying airplanes is like riding a motorcycle.
You have several models, displacements, velocities, ways of doing curve, is an intellectual dynamics.
Reflexes are paramount, you have no time to think, the thing is instinctive.
When shit happens, the only thing you have time to think is:
Gee, now fucked!
hehe.
Aviate then communicate. Quit feeding the basement dweller conspiracy wackos with these type of posts.
I just want to add that Airbuses have a reputation with aviators for being finicky when wresting control from the aircraft's computers, such as in an emergency situation. I don't have any links to back up that assertion right now...I'll have to see if I can find a source.
Nearly got sucked out of a helicopter and was hanging on for dear life - the anxiety and terror were so great and my fate seemed so certain that I entertained the idea of just letting go and getting it over...I guess I survived since this isn't exacty what I depicted the afterlife to be like....
Congrats on surviving.
On the lighter side...
The Economy told me a similar story about the 2007-08 period, something about Bernanke and a helicopter, hanging on for dear life, thought of just letting go, guessing it survived...odd. ;-)
I am not at all surprised or curious as to the pilots' inability to get out a distress message. YES, they most likely were overloaded with the attempts to right their aircraft.
AF447 fell for FOUR MINUTES before hitting the water, they didn't get a distress call out either.
Boeing Honeywell Uninterruptible Autopilot.
Interesting revelation. I had not heard of this technology, although it seems certainly possible to me because the Predator drone is a Boeing product, and Honeywell is a major supplier to Boeing.
The existence of the technology does not mean it has been installed on aircraft. A Google search found a thread discussing MH370 (B777E200) that the author had not found a single STC for any 777 where this technology had be fitted. No STC = It has not been approved for installation.
I don't know who supplies the avionics, flight director, and flight control systems for the Airbus 320. But it's a real stretch to make an assumption that a system developed for a different aircraft manufacturer, with different software and hardware, with no record of having actually been installed on the aircraft type it was developed for, much less any other aircraft type, was fitted to and responsible for this Airbus 320's incident.
As a complete aside, because it was an Airbus being operated by a foreign carrier, outside of United States Contiguous zone, our NTSB won't be involved in the investigation unless by invitation. Which is too bad, because these guys are simply amazing at figuring out what actually happened even if all they have to go on are some bits from the bottom of the ocean. Read a few of their reports sometime. You'd be surprised what they can deduce, if given the opportunity.
Whether their findings are accurately reported or not, well......
The Uninterruptible Auto Trader was working fine!
HEY TONI! WHAT'S THE STORY?
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/3eThBKpkSco/maxresdefault.jpg
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2014/12/busted-airasia-ceo-tony-fer...
crazy site..so I checked..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eThBKpkSco
crazy site so I checked again
http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/business/article/airasias-tony-fernan...
AirAsia group chief executive officer Tan Sri Tony Fernandes' investment vehicle Tune Group Sdn Bhd has sold a total of 944,800 shares in Tune Insurance Holdings Bhd.
According to a filing with Bursa Malaysia, some 850,000 shares were sold on December 22 and an additional 94,800 shares the day after. All shares were sold at RM1.60 each.
Tune Insurance share price has been on a decline since early August, falling from RM2.50 to a low of RM1.56 two weeks ago. The stock jumped 11 sen, or 6.67%, to RM1.76 today with 1.08 million shares traded.
After the latest share sales, Tune Group still holds 128.37 million shares, or a 17.08% stake, in the insurance group.
Meanwhile, Fernandes, who is the non-independent, non executive director, still holds a 30.73% indirect stake and a 0.01% direct stake in Tune Insurance. – The Edge Markets, December 26, 2014.
- See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/business/article/airasias-tony-fernan...
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/airasia-shares-lose-7-malaysia-022139893.html#...
Then there are the interesting stories:
1. A relative saying he received a text message from a passenger saying that the plane had landed safely;
2. A person in China using the name "Landlord" started issuing warnings 13 days before the crash, telling people not to fly on AirAsia to avoid being killed in another MH370-type crash. The story goes that he gave the first warning on December 15, saying that the same conspirators that took down MH370 and MH17 were going to take down an AirAsia flight to ruin another Malaysian airline. He repeated the message several times over the following days;
3. The CEO of AirAsia is alleged to have dumped 944,000 shares in the company that provides flight insurance for AirAsia passengers, some 5 days before the crash.
An odd coincidence they said no Chinese nationals but
the only British passenger Chi Man Choi was the managing director at Alstom Power, a large energy company which operates in Indonesia.
"Alstom is involved in semiconductor patents." Alston was also recently sold to GE
Alstom is a French company. Alstom to pay record $772 million to settle bribery charges with US - 22 Dec 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKVoL0HOBUg