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"It's A Butchery" - 12 Killed In Terrorist Attack On French Satirical Magazine Charlie Hebdo: Live Webcast
A tragedy is unfolding in Paris at the moment where armed men stormed the Paris offices of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo on Wednesday morning, killing “at least 12 people” and injuring more, said a police officer. As a reminder, it was in November 2011 when the Charlie Hebdo’s headquarters were gutted by fire, hours before a special issue of the weekly featuring the Prophet Muhammad appeared on newsstands. Since then, the weekly moved to a new location, which was guarded by police, who were also shot at Wednesday morning. The shooters opened fire inside the magazine’s offices using automatic AK-47 rifles before fleeing, said the officer, cited by the WSJ. The attackers, described as "a commando with Kalasnikov and pump action... they went in there to kill" are believed to still be at large as France is "in shock" according to its president.
More details from AP:
Masked gunmen stormed the offices of a French satirical newspaper Wednesday, killing 11 people before escaping, police and a witness said. The weekly has previously drawn condemnation from Muslims.
French President Francois Hollande called the slayings a terrorist attack and said that several other terror attacks have been thwarted "in recent weeks."
Xavier Castaing, head of communications for the Paris police prefecture, confirmed the deaths in the shooting at the offices of Charlie Hebdo, a satirical weekly that been repeatedly threatened for publishing caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad, among other controversial sketches.
Hollande rushed to the scene and top government officials planned an emergency meeting.
Luc Poignant, an official of the SBP police union, said the attackers escaped in two vehicles.
A witness to the attack, Benoit Bringer, told the iTele network he saw multiple masked men armed with automatic weapons at the newspaper's office in central Paris.
In this video one can hear gun shots as the commentator remarks it is an automatic weapon. A woman can be seen running down the street and diving for cover between two cars.
A snapshot of what the alleged attackers look like via @Zaidbenjamin:
As Guardian's Alexandra Topping writes: "The journalist Martin Boudot, from the Premières Lignes agency, has posted this video from the roof of a building situated close to the Charlie Hebdo building. we can hear gunshots and voices who cry ‘Allahu akbar’. In the distance we can see at least two people who appear to be fleeing.
Other newspapers in Paris have been placed under police protection, according to Le Monde.



French president Francois Hollande quickly arrived at the scene of what he called is clearly a terrorist attack. The latest headline updates from Bloomberg as they come in:
- HOLLANDE SAYS 11 PEOPLE KILLED IN PARIS SHOOTINGS
- PARIS ON HIGH TERRORIST ALERT, HOLLANDE SAYS
- FRANCE’S HOLLANDE SAYS THE ATTACK IS A TERRORIST ACTION
- HOLLANDE: SEVERAL TERRORIST ATTACKS FOILED IN RECENT WEEKS
- HOLLANDE: FOUR PEOPLE ARE ’BETWEEN LIFE AND DEATH’
The latest from Guardian:
A French police official says 11 people are dead in a shooting at a satirical weekly newspaper in central Paris.
Xavier Castaing, head of communications for the Paris police prefecture, confirmed the deaths.
French President Francois Hollande was headed to the scene of Wednesday’s shooting at Charlie Hebdo, a satirical weekly that has drawn repeated threats for its caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed, among other controversial sketches.
Hollande's full statement:
Francois Hollande has been speaking to the media. He said that 11 people had been killed and four people seriously injured but 40 people had been rescued.
Hollande said that the security level had been increased in Paris and a number of terrorist plots had been foiled in recent weeks.
An emergency meeting will be held at the Elysees Palace in the next hour.
Hollande said France had experienced “an exceptional act of barbarism committed against a newspaper”.
France was facing a “shock”, he added. “We need to show we are a united country,” he said.
France had to be “firm and strong” adding: “We will fight these threats and we will punish the attackers.”
France had been targeted because it was a country of freedom but no one would be allowed to go against “the spirit of the republic” in this way.
Key updates via Twitter:
Police now say 12 killed in Paris attack including police officers #cbc
— Nahlah Ayed (@NahlahAyed) January 7, 2015
Reports that several of #charliehebdo cartoonists are among the dead #cbc
— Nahlah Ayed (@NahlahAyed) January 7, 2015
Impacts d un fusil type kalachnikov @Charlie_Hebdo_ pic.twitter.com/0QLG30C8Fl
— Julien Rebucci (@julienrbcc) January 7, 2015
The eleven dead in #CharlieHebdo attack are reportedly nine journalists and two police officers.
— Mark MacKinnon (@markmackinnon) January 7, 2015
Les tireurs de #ChalieHebdo face à une voiture de police. Ils ont fait feu, les policiers ont répliqué puis reculé pic.twitter.com/Ld1sxkRLvW
— Elise Barthet (@EliseBarthet) January 7, 2015
Police say it was carnage "a butchery" inside Charlie Hebdo. Can see police car riddled with bullets.
— Kim Willsher (@kimwillsher1) January 7, 2015
Police spokes. "It was a commando with Kalasnikov and pump action ...they went in there to kill".
— Kim Willsher (@kimwillsher1) January 7, 2015
Paris attackers believed to still be at large ... Hollande says france is in shock #cbc
— Nahlah Ayed (@NahlahAyed) January 7, 2015
Hollande at the scene of the attack "An act of exceptional barbarism has been committed today" pic by @stefandevries pic.twitter.com/PjRzEfArnc
— Conflict News (@rConflictNews) January 7, 2015
France on highest alert after Paris terror attack - AP
— Breaking News Feed (@PzFeed) January 7, 2015
Meilleurs vœux, au fait. pic.twitter.com/a2JOhqJZJM
— Charlie Hebdo (@Charlie_Hebdo_) January 7, 2015
More on the controversial history of Charlie Hebdo via the Guardian:
Charlie Hebdo has a long record of taking its satire seriously. The weekly magazine’s response to previous efforts at intimidation was to be even more controversial or outrageous, defying the constraints of religious sensitivity or political correctness.
In November 2011, its offices were fire-bombed after it had published a special edition, supposedly guest-edited by the Prophet Mohammed and temporarily renamed ‘Charia Hebdo’. The cover was a cartoon of Mohammed threatening the readers with ‘a hundred lashes if you don’t die laughing’.
The petrol bomb attack completely destroyed the Paris offices, the magazine’s website was hacked and the staff were subjected to death threats. But six days later, it published a new front page depicting a male Charlie Hebdo cartoonist passionately kissing a bearded Muslim man in front of the charred aftermath of the bombing. The headline this time was: L’Amour plus fort que la haine (Love is stronger than hate).
Less than a year after that, it published more cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed, including images of him naked and a cover showing him being pushed along in a wheelchair by an Orthodox Jew. The French government had appealed to the magazine not to go ahead with publication, and shut down embassies and schools in twenty countries when it went ahead anyway, out of fear of reprisals.
Live webcast from France 24:
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Organized religion is the bane of humanity since it allows undesirables undeserved legitimacy under the cloak of righteousness...and many suffer as a result....
Greeks invented butt ‘stuff’, so we can understand the judgement on them, what did France do?
Invent French stuff?
+1 How many millions of people have been killed in the name of religion? That number is only surpassed by the number of people killed in the name of government.
just wait
until the government
becomes the religion ...
Don't you know that all Rulers consider organized religion to be useful? Why do you think they like it to be 'organized' (homogenized and standardized)?
For its followers, it provides a nice "Just add water & heat" type of canned solution to life's questions and problems -- as long as they adhere to its teachings and practice its self-hypnotizing rituals, and make their donations. And when it becomes too complex, it loses its homogeneity & central control and ends up splintering, unless 'heretics' (religious dissidents) are eliminated.
For the leaders it allows for social stability and leveraged (hierarchical) control. It worked that way for ancient Kings, Pharaohs, Emperors, Pashas and Caliphs. And it still works that way today.
Religious and Secular leaders have always had a mostly symbiotic (win-win) relationship to rule over the serfs/sheep, unless one side or the other got too greedy or ambitious.
France is chock full of muslim immigrants disgruntled over living conditions and lack of jobs. Not surprised some turn to this kind of shit.
This is more than that, they were mocking the muslim religon, much like a politician mocks their citizens by passing legislation so that we can later find out what's "in it".
Boehner.
....just proved to the world what he really is.
Fine....now that we have proof...we can proceed without a guilty conscience.
The future is bright!
I agree, but
Pray tell
What does it take to un-disgruntle a Muslim?
Where do the happy Muslims live?
All I see is disgruntled Muslims worldwide
Ever hear of firsthand experience? Engage the coomunity, go to a Mosque and see for yourself what kind of people are there and how you are treated...
i have the answer...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVDIXqILqSM
If you are a muslim immigrant in France (or anywhere) and unhappy about being unemployed and conditions. Unimmigrate and fuck off back to the shithole you came from.
Maybe, if no one went and turned their part of the world into a "shithole" they would be content to stay home...
The ragheads turned their own part of the world into a shithole. Gee, I wonder why they aren't up for celebrating diversity and multiculturalism. . . Wait, they do, in their own way. They chop the heads off the infidels.
Concealed Fucking Carry Global. All else is noise.
We should let more muslims into the country
but...but... Islam is the Religion of peace.
For give me for my ignorance but, could you please cite chapter and verse from the Koran where it adovactes violence?
Hat-tip to poster 'Rikky'
"Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Koran 2:191
“Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.” Koran 9:123
“When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them.” Koran 9:5
“Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.” Koran 3:85
“The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.”... Koran 9:30
“Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam” Koran 5:33
“Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water;
melt their skin and bellies.” Koran 22:19
“The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them.” Koran 8:65
“Muslims must not take the infidels as friends.” Koran 3:28
“Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.”
Koran 8:12
“Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.” Koran 8:60
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2e6v57_fusillade-au-siege-de-charliehe...
policier tué : live execution of policeman
DailyMotion.com has removed the video
We express our deep concern as the west is worried about Syria, Iraq and Libya
Dumbasses cops with no guns.. Why have cops at all then.. All for political correctness.
Well their voice carry's a lot of weight in court, where they do carry guns.
And that certainly saved 12 people today
It did, there are 12 people in a court house in Paris today that will not die from 2 guys and machine guns.
Was it ak47's or pump style shotgun or both? Media adding grenades too...why am I already questioning ....false flag?
You can tell the description of the guns didn't come from any American sources, because I didn't read the words "assault weapons" anywhere. Everyone knows that AK-47s and pump shotguns are Skeery Assault Weapons of Dooooom.
If you check the video two posts above you'll see what they were using.
I watched the videos on this small tablet and could not see any guns and reread the article before posting. At best if ak47's it might have been set on semi auto from what I could hear in the vid's. Call me cynical but I try to pay attention to early as to what is presented before potential scrubbing of events. Junk away.
If you watched the video before it was removed by Daily Motion and are saying you couldn't see any guns then you're lying. If you're saying you couldn't make out which type of guns on a small tablet then fair enough.
Dup
The 'Charia Hebdo' issue may have just as well been the editor sticking an explosive vest on, with a looooong fucking fuse. And they knew there'd be a violent reaction to it, dumbasses. It's just fortunate the terrorists decided to attack the newspaper and not the city itself.
France has been going middle east for while.
No surpise.
BULLISH!!
That’s how easy it is. Dash in, shoot everyone, run back out to a waiting Mini - and go!
Governments and their various agencies have relied on false flag terrorism for centuries, none more so than those of the western world. Currently, the U.S. and Israeli intelligence communities are deeply involved in false flag terror, also known as state crimes against democracy, or SCADs.
I'm not saying this was a false flag as I have not looked very hard yet, but there's absolutely no reason to dismiss the possibility. Considering historical precedent, it would be no surprise. Imagine the worst thing your gov't/intelligence community could be engaged in and you'd be looking at the tip of the tip of the iceberg. There's no level they won't stoop to without a second thought.
Pay attention to the earliest reporting and from numerous sources. This is where you will find the most truth, the kind of information that tends to disappear in the days, weeks and months that follow these treasonous "events".
look stop this simplistic false flag shit..watching the video of 2 shooters execute an unarmed wounded cop-the shooters have had prior combat exp..until the west seals our borders and executes the reptile elite, day to day citizens have this to look forward to, remember two kids in boston avoided all the security state spying to bomb the leftist progressives in that city..cops can't even protect themselves they are fodder for NWO elite as well..this is a plan of evil men..not the usual suspects which we name here, they are hidden in safe guarded estates.
Contradictory much?
And how is this different from our going into a Muslim country and killing people, many of whom are children and regular citizens, with drones?
Well, it's way more cost effective, for one thing...
Clearly this is the fault of gun owners and France should pass even more restrictive gun laws. Additionally, cowering in place classes will be offered for all ( a small fee of course will be charged).
Disarming the people and hoping the police will be there to protect them...oh wait...
No one would have been killed if they had only sheltered in place in the kneeholes of their desks with their Personal Defense Scissors and urinated on themselves. Sigh. When will people learn?
Yes, scissors training for all French. I am sure some Israeli security firm can do it.
Behold the solution, humans... It ain't pretty, but if you don't do it, it AIN'T PRETTY!
1. Declare Islam a terrorism rather than a religion. Make Islam illegal, on the entire planet.
2. Bulldoze all mosques on the entire planet
3. Lockup/shoot anyone found practicing Islam.
Yes, it sounds drastic and unfair, etc, but do we want to fix the problem, or watch innocent people continue to get slaughtered like pigs all over the planet and see everyeons' freedom vaporize? Fk these Islamist pigs. I vote for the former.
lulz - no wonder they hate us
Does it matter that they hate us? They're killing innocent people all over the world non-stop. What solution do you propose then?
You mean the zionists, right? In the last 100 years, they've slaughtered what, 200-250 million people?
Do the same for the zionists, and I may vote for it. Crazed fundamentalists of all sects should be quarantined. Especially those who control money printing.
Complex as it is, I see you gave your solution a lot of thought.
The Anglos tried that on the Jew – how did it work out?
Expelling the Jews from England in 1300 AD worked out very well for England for 300-400 years (not necessarily because they were Jews but because Jews were the banking mafia at the time).
I got ‘open slaughter of all Muslims' from the good Captain’s post and not put Muslims into a ‘time-out’ for a few years.
No this is stupid and counter productive. There are over 1 billion muslims and most of them are normal people who want to live their lives just like the rest of us all.
The fanatics just need to realize they are targeting the wrong people and should start going for politicians instead, it would probably earn them more respect than going for journalists and innocent people. Politicians are not innocent. They are a breed of psychopaths/sociopaths, and they deserve to meet their armed counterparts until they learn to go back to working for the people, not the 1%.
So far captain is the only one posting any answers to the problem in this thread.
Also this thread is taking the classic ZH lines in terms of postings.
Anyone from/in europe or who lives in muzzie areas = String them all up/send them all back.
Anyone from the US/not in high muzzie population areas = Flase flag/Elvis did it/concealed bitcoin carry would have saved everyone.
(second part of this is sarc)
Yes, people in the US can see that this is partly about neocons stirring up trouble for foreign policy reasons but they don't see the other aspect which is the same problem all over - the 1% importing millions of unskilled workers to drive down wages and that leading to violent ghettos that are extremely hostile to the native population.
CaptainMoonlight: "... Make Islam illegal, on the entire planet."
You and what Army, Cpt. Loonlight?
Fuck it. Deport them all and then nuke them from orbit.
Muslim lice.
Imagine what millions with guns and a known enemy could accomplish.
"Save the children, we need the guns!"
All of the media seem to be remarkably relaxed about the gunmen still being on the loose,
It's quite strange,
The terrorists need to re-think their strategy.
They would be much more helpful if they desist from targeting civilians and journalists and instead focus on targeting the rat bastard politicians, governments and military and make those assholes start fearing for their lives and reminding them of their own mortality, which they seem to have forgotten with all the blatant abuse being perpetrated.
1. A false flag with guys on foot who could get caught? Yeah right.
2. Islamic jihadism is being deliberately stoked by various intelligence agancies for neocon purposes but the reason it works so easily with Islam and rapidly develops a life of its own (like the Mujaheddin turning into Al Queda) is because the seed is already there. Islam is an aggressive, supremacist religion and importing millions of muslims into Europe was an act of supreme treachery by the European political elite that will end in disaster.
Muslims have been fighting in Europe for about 1000 years. And guess who opened that gates of Spanish towns to let them enter? Answer: not the Christians and not the Muslims.
Indeed but it was a very long way from Arabia to Spain and they invaded east to India as well. I agree the neocons are helping to make it worse but my point is jihadists are quite willing to attack their non-muslim neighbors even when hey're not being helped by neocons e.g. the entire length of the muslim vs non-muslim border in Africa and East Asia.
The Mujahideen have been an intelligence operation from 1979 to Today, the evidence is abundant. The transition from Mujahideen to "Al-Qaeda" is more akin to a controlled culture in a petri dish than some organic biomass festering in the Amazon. Are you familiar with the history of the internal conflict between the Massoud/"Bin Laden" factions of the mid to late 90s? The decimation of the former by the latter over their unwillingness to bow to their Western masters? Opium and arms are at its core.
This fascinating and tragic tale is just one of many prerequisites to understanding "Islamofascism," and Blowback it is not. This is not to say that organic terrirosim is non-existant, but those acts of terror drawn into focus by the lens of Deep Political propagandists seldom is.
Nothing to see here people. Nothing to see here. Just some "work place violence" folks. Move along. Nothing to see here. Hey, look over there..... A squirrel!
Cameron says he's against ALL forms of Terrorism BUT supports along with his friends in the USSA/ SAUDI/ ISRAEL Terrorism in SYRIA. What a BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
REMEMBER ASSAD RESPECTS ALL RELIGIONS
How could this have happened with France's restrictive gun laws?
With no borders and PC desk jockeys not letting you check people who look like terrorists, just because they look like terrorists
join my god they said!
Where's Charles Martel when you need him most?
Look on the bright side, 12 new job openings in Paris.
looks like a pretty decent grouping on the police car, which imho points toward a reasonable level of training or experience.
make of that what you will.
What? If by "reasonable" you mean over the course of a weekend, then yes, you're right,
I would say for standing unsupported with an ak thats not bad. I doubt he could have got away with it if he had set up a bench and gun vice at a set distance.
This is happening because of the Islamophobia in France and because of the support to Israel in the U.N.
...and because gun laws are tough in France, and Muslims detest stinky cheese.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2012/04/daniel-zimmerman/mon-dieu-a-rev...
Nothing better to cure 'Islamophobia' than a few bloodthirsty ragheads murdering some French citizens. I've had just about enough of that Islam shit. When will the scalping party be assembled to go trim some beards?
So I guess people didn't think it was Satire.
HMMMM....
Culture does matter & Culture changes Quickly in the face of Religious wars.... oh, and when USA Stimulates Terrorism in Muslim or Buddhist or Hindu Cultures or Latin American or African Culture... but hell the Elite are protected on compounds or Estates or Gated Communities....
Crisis is for the Elites. No Change for poor or Middle Class.
trained in syria and iraq, armed and directed by muslim sheika oil tycoons and religious leaders, but in the end the cause of so much death and suffering is at it's root : globalism.
"So I guess people didn't think it was Satire."
Funny that, eh? It's like people fighting religious wars don't have a fully developed sense of humour, or something.
And there were we, thinking everything ISIS are doing was a big practical joke!
And if ISIS really was about 'religion' and not just a western-funded and trained mercenary group, you might have a point.
Didn't Hollande just come out against Russian sanctions? Hmmmmm.
We might be mishearing what is really, 'Chetayu Votka!'
It is compounded by the fact that the French politicians (due to its MENA population) want Israel to get Sanctions.
Lifting sanctions against Russia, and putting them on Israel just won't do for the Zionists. Double-whammy = double-barrel reprisal
What a mess, civil war incoming ?
"civil war incoming?"
The banking mafia are currently risking the hitech version of WWIII but if we somehow manage to avoid that then yes, the 1% importing millions of low skilled workers to drive wages down who then inevitably sit at the bottom of the economic pile and grow resentful will eventually bring us a very lotech civil war version of WWIII fought mostly with machetes.
If there is hope, it lies with the proles. We have always been at war with EastAsian proles.
#Paris Terror - Islamists
A witness to the shootings at the Charlie Hebdo offices in Paris filmed the scene as the sound of gunshots was heard.
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My money is on it being a warning to Hollande to stop having "crazy" ideas of stopping sanctions on Russia.
The only diversity here is in the chicken coop. Life is good enough.
This is what happens when politicians talk harmony but instigate chaos.
Religion of Love.
Now with ecstasy rebranded as a popular SSRI.
Political leaders response: "this is an isolated incident, don't blame the Muslims." Liberal response: "don't judge the perpetrators, they might have had an abusive father." White House response: "we need to expand the mandate of Homeland Security. Our police forces are under-equiped; we need to install more surveillance systems". The people's response: "protect us dear leaders, we are afraid, tell us what to think, now we are ready to elect a strong leader."
Liberal sees a guy laying on the ground beat up bad, blood streaming, teeth missing. Says: "The person who did that to you needs help."
Putin is right.
These days, everything for me is a false flag until I'm shown proof otherwise.
Thanks to generations of corrupt governance.
Any dancing Israelis video yet?
Couple of drones' worth of civilians.
I live in a East Asian country. We in general don't like blacks and muslims, and even though in public racism is deemed bad, there is a lot of discrimination towards them. No wonder the crime rates in China, Japan and South Korea are the lowest in the world.
I truly think discrimination towards Islam is justifiable. If muslims don't like being discriminated, then they should first think about the way they act, rather than whine like 7 year olds. The backward way they act is causing all sorts of trouble everywhere.
I don't care if the large majority of Islamic people are perfectly sane and normal people. I can't help but have prejudices if all terrorists I see are muslims, can I?
Not just blacks and muslims, many in East Asia don't like the whitey either.
Not all terrorists this is inaccurate.
Terrorists are tradionally leftists and to a much lesser degree and only recently muslims.
At what point will the civilized peoples of the world (!) realize that we are already well into the early days of WW3. Militant Islam will eventually commit a tragedy on an historic scale (biological/chemical/nuclear). It seems that only then will the Governments of the world unite and focus on eradicating this threat. Meanwhile, millions will die. All the while the authorities of the USA will focus their efforts on 'global warming' and uncontrolled illegal immigration. We are screwed.
I will take my chances with Muslims over "governments unite".
Muslims didn't invade America. Washington DC did it. Throughout Ron Paul's watch.
DV because of your non sequitur smear of Ron Paul.
This is what happens when, through immigration, the founding stock of a nation is being replaced by an invasive species, just as with flora and fauna, the invasive species overwhelms and replaces the native species.
Look up Barbara Spectre Lerner. Here is a video of what she had to say about who is behind 3rd world immigration into all of Europe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2Vq_e2Z1ug
There is another member of the same tribe, Anetta Kahane in Germany saying the same things: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuYKtwnzG7M
From the review of a Professor's book:
It is often said that when the old immigration policy was scrapped in 1965, scarcely anyone knew, and no one predicted, that the new law would change the racial makeup of the country. Prof. MacDonald disputes this, arguing that this had been the objective of Jewish groups from the beginning.
Prof. MacDonald finds that Jews have been the foremost advocates of immigration in England, France, and Canada, and that Jewish groups were the most vocal opponents of independence for Quebec. Australian Jews led the effort to dismantle the "white Australia" policy, one reason for which was cited in an editorial in the Australian Jewish Democrat: "The strengthening of multicultural or diverse Australia is also our most effective insurance policy against anti-Semitism. The day Australia has a Chinese Australian Governor General I would feel more confident of my freedom to live as a Jewish Australian." Like Earl Raab writing about the United States, this Australian Jew is prepared to sacrifice the traditional culture, people, and identity of Australia to specifically Jewish interests.
"Breeds" not "species."
Spectre is a ZIONIST, wrapping herself in "Jewishness". Do not confuse the mantle with its wearer. This is their daily staple of deception (bait & switch).
There is a global network of Zionists, who act at Agents and Sayanim. Another hijacked word they like to use is Antisemitism. Jews are Semites, as are Palestinians. It is clearer, more accurate, more honest and less subject-to-deceit to use the term Zionist or Sayanim.
That way the Debate or disagreement is about differing political and worldviews, not ethnic or religious views -- which they love to use as word traps for the simple, the uninformed and the easily scared or intimidated. Words are powerful. As "Jedi Mind Tricks". For offense and defense. They are what make TPTB truly powerful, not their numbers or physical prowess.
For further insight on False or Deceptive Logic and Arguments, the following site has a nice summary in Tabular/Grid form...
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-JDWp0nMdoHg/UAMt4LOPDaI/AAAAAAAAA6A/F9SXXWFTc_M/s1600/Delusional-Logic.jpg
CNN is reporting that the French Army is in full retreat.
" Quick, grab the scissors and get under the desk ! "
.... mmmm .....
This caricature was published this week in the Charlie Hebdo paper edition .
Drawn by one of the cartoonist killed this morning !
Really " prophetic" ...
https://twitter.com/AlexHervaud/status/552795876662714369/photo/1
Translation : Still no attacks in France ??
Wait !
We have until the end of the month to wish you a happy new year !!
sorry doublepost
I love how this rag is still portrayed as 'leftist' and 'fun' on wiki etc. Buncha racist old bourgeois farts doodling RIGHT WING memes.
And sure, prophetic, if you'd classify a junkie predicting his own pathetic overdose as 'prophetic'.
The news channels in Seattle are all excited about a "gunman" and "possibly terrorism" but no mention of religion at all.
Because A) its wrong to say things about poor widdle muslims
or
B) everyone knows terrorism = islam by now.
The gunmen have not yet been apprehended.
There are more possibilities than the options you give us.
Riiiight.
Gun control plus liberal tolerance of obvious shitbags, as if they contribute to society, equals slaughterings.
Outsiders come cos the government want them there, or they would not be there.
So ask self, what was intent to lower barriers to predictable radicals?
otherwise, is there any real evidence sorted for facts yet?
It should be comforting for every French citizen to know that their government will continue to do their very best to accommodate and support their new "French" population with more laws restricting the long time French born citizens to prevent any type of offensive speech or behavior that might offend their new immigrant guests. And if gun control didn't work this time, maybe next time. After all, if that magazine never printed those offensive things, they'd all be OK now, right? So the new drill: not facing east like your guests is now a crime. Follow the law and stay alive. And welcome to the new France.
But aren't the French a shitty group of people too? All these anti-Muslim comments just feed into another form of the Blue/Red 'who's a lesser asshole' quantitative easing of votes.
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The shootings in Paris today at the offices of the French satirical journal Charlie Hebdo come after a steady rise in ethnic tension in France. Though it is too soon to attribute responsibility for the attack, the newspaper marked itself out in 2008 by…
A witness to the shootings at the Charlie Hebdo offices in Paris filmed the scene as the sound of gunshots was heard.
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i read yesterday that france is about to send aircraft carrier charles de gaulle in persian gulf against isis.. maybe they should first eliminate the home growth terrorists..
They say the pen is mightier than the sword.
One cuts satirically the other surgically.
When you write words of war
The war of words ends with swords.
When the pen cuts-to-the-quick
The swords are quick to cut.
Yes, yes. What we really need is a 'civil discourse', and of course some bureaucratic agency to appropriately edit all speech that might be deemed 'inflammatory' to bloodthirsty ragheads. And some new laws to set punishments for those who are not up to the 'civil discourse' standards.
We are not talking about words here.
We are talking about iconoclastic war mongering.
There is a difference.
You need to learn it.
Those who 'abjure' violence can do so only because others are committing violence on their behalf.
George Orwell
Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.
George Orwell
Mankind is not likely to salvage civilization unless he can evolve a system of good and evil which is independent of heaven and hell.
George Orwell
In our time political speech and writing are largely the defense of the indefensible.
George Orwell
I'll be sure to read up on the modern definition of 'iconclastic war mongering'. Fuckers like you are part of the problem. Dont think for 1 second I'm on board with any speech censorship. The real question is, if you push and I push back, how far are you willing to go? I'm prepared to go all in. Are you?!?
So you agree that there are such things as “fighting words” – or do you just like to annihilate the opposition by whatever means you deem necessary and call it liberty?
I assume “I'm prepared to go all in.” is not meant to be beneficial to my wellbeing. Iconoclasm is the use of pictures instead of words to provoke a response, mostly violent.
Which is exactly what was done in the name of a free press.
Don’t words like Weapons Of Mass Destruction usually appear in the free press as incitement for us to pick up swords and kill people we don’t even know and have never done anything to us …….. ever!
May I suggest anger management and a little less bigotry.
Words are just words. They dont mean shit without the will to back it up and make it so. When I perceive a threat, I seek to neutralize that threat. It's folks like you that are a threat. . . to my freedom to use words as I see fit.
When people like you push for more law-enforcement tyranny and invasion of privacy, and infringment on the right to free speech and the right to bear arms, we all get a little closer to conflict.
It's the ragheads that choose to commit murder to advance their agenda. They choose to do so perhaps because the 'words' in their koran justify that. So if you wish to down-regulate "fighting words", you best start by censoring the Koran, cuz that book is getting a lot of people dead.
You hypocritical piece of shit. Fuck you and your anger management suggestion.
Getaway car found on the outskirts of Paris,
Wtf? How the hell did they get that far in a congested city like Paris,
Where was the police helicopters?
At the pastry shop, on one of their 17 scheduled daily breaks.
How did they get away at all? It's a socialist utopia... ain't nobody on duty.
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outside israeli embassy?
this wasn't a terrorist attack, but an islamic terrorist attack. enough of the obama politcal correct bullshit! western democracies need to ban all muslim immigration and deport all muslims. otherwise, murders of innocents will continue.
Here's one instance where Hollande will NOT do whatever it takes to purge this crap from France. Yes, deportation is what WOULD work. If you bring rattlesnakes into your home, you will always have to be careful where you step.
Muslims are amateurs. When Europeans get pissed they start throwing people in ovens in an efficient and methodical manner. Not a good idea for Muslims to get uppity like this. Human nature will take hold and the fittest will prevail. Can't stop nature.
Everyone is kneaded out of the same dough but not baked in the same oven. -Yiddish proverb
Even the Jewes agree.
Yeah, Islam's biggest crime is its reluctance to adhere to laissez-faire democide. Hence ISUS will bring them up to date.
Ragheads gonna raghead.
"western democracies need to ban all muslim immigration and deport all muslims"
A rather silly comment. Sure, future immigration for many can be blocked except that the EU won't allow it. But deporting existing Muslims is a whole new game. There are literally tens of thousands of them spread across the EU, many having come from war-torn sandpits or where Western governments have been waging proxy wars, eg: Afghanistan/Iraq.
The problem with Muslims in Europe today is little different to the problem that has existed in Britain for many decades, where huge numbers of Indians and Pakis came to Britain because of the British Empire.
The problem is largely created by Western governments, this is why politicians won't deal with it.
Why? Try to immigrate to Saudi, or just try to get a tourist visa there to see the non-sacred cities. Good luck, you can't, that visa does not exist.
If they don't allow western immigration, if they do not reciprocate, then why should we?
If they do not tolerate our culture in their nations, then why should we tolerate their culture in our nations?
FUCK HOLLANDE! I get disgussed and sick by watching him talk about this horrible event.. He and the other so called democratic politicians, banksters and their medias have let this happen. If they got any pride left they should all just do harakiri before the people do it for them..
Anyways, I hope you fellow zerohedgers all know that the EU NWO project is about to fall apart. Its soon the "racist" parties time to shine and they will undo ECB and the EU project in notime.
This is precisely why atheism is needed to save human civilization. Religion is just a barbaric relic of the past, primitive and outdated that fosters discord and intolerance. If people keep thinking they have some divine "specialness" to them, they will continue to kill those who refuse to start worshipping their version of the invisible man in the sky.
"This is precisely why atheism is needed to save human civilization."
I agree. Let's call it The "Church of Atheism"?
Which denomination of atheism?
Secular or militant?
Why are most serial killers atheist? The problem is extremism. It can be found in anything. Banning religion is like banning death or hunger.
Edit: "HELP ME GOV! BAN STUFF FOAR MOAR FREEDOM!"
Atheism doesn't solve immorality, war, and crime. It would probably make things worse. Just ban Islam. It is not a real religion. It is a Christian heresy and always has been. Some idiot decided to tell all the Jews and Christians what their religion really was and kill them if they did not agree.