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"It's A Butchery" - 12 Killed In Terrorist Attack On French Satirical Magazine Charlie Hebdo: Live Webcast
A tragedy is unfolding in Paris at the moment where armed men stormed the Paris offices of French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo on Wednesday morning, killing “at least 12 people” and injuring more, said a police officer. As a reminder, it was in November 2011 when the Charlie Hebdo’s headquarters were gutted by fire, hours before a special issue of the weekly featuring the Prophet Muhammad appeared on newsstands. Since then, the weekly moved to a new location, which was guarded by police, who were also shot at Wednesday morning. The shooters opened fire inside the magazine’s offices using automatic AK-47 rifles before fleeing, said the officer, cited by the WSJ. The attackers, described as "a commando with Kalasnikov and pump action... they went in there to kill" are believed to still be at large as France is "in shock" according to its president.
More details from AP:
Masked gunmen stormed the offices of a French satirical newspaper Wednesday, killing 11 people before escaping, police and a witness said. The weekly has previously drawn condemnation from Muslims.
French President Francois Hollande called the slayings a terrorist attack and said that several other terror attacks have been thwarted "in recent weeks."
Xavier Castaing, head of communications for the Paris police prefecture, confirmed the deaths in the shooting at the offices of Charlie Hebdo, a satirical weekly that been repeatedly threatened for publishing caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad, among other controversial sketches.
Hollande rushed to the scene and top government officials planned an emergency meeting.
Luc Poignant, an official of the SBP police union, said the attackers escaped in two vehicles.
A witness to the attack, Benoit Bringer, told the iTele network he saw multiple masked men armed with automatic weapons at the newspaper's office in central Paris.
In this video one can hear gun shots as the commentator remarks it is an automatic weapon. A woman can be seen running down the street and diving for cover between two cars.
A snapshot of what the alleged attackers look like via @Zaidbenjamin:
As Guardian's Alexandra Topping writes: "The journalist Martin Boudot, from the Premières Lignes agency, has posted this video from the roof of a building situated close to the Charlie Hebdo building. we can hear gunshots and voices who cry ‘Allahu akbar’. In the distance we can see at least two people who appear to be fleeing.
Other newspapers in Paris have been placed under police protection, according to Le Monde.



French president Francois Hollande quickly arrived at the scene of what he called is clearly a terrorist attack. The latest headline updates from Bloomberg as they come in:
- HOLLANDE SAYS 11 PEOPLE KILLED IN PARIS SHOOTINGS
- PARIS ON HIGH TERRORIST ALERT, HOLLANDE SAYS
- FRANCE’S HOLLANDE SAYS THE ATTACK IS A TERRORIST ACTION
- HOLLANDE: SEVERAL TERRORIST ATTACKS FOILED IN RECENT WEEKS
- HOLLANDE: FOUR PEOPLE ARE ’BETWEEN LIFE AND DEATH’
The latest from Guardian:
A French police official says 11 people are dead in a shooting at a satirical weekly newspaper in central Paris.
Xavier Castaing, head of communications for the Paris police prefecture, confirmed the deaths.
French President Francois Hollande was headed to the scene of Wednesday’s shooting at Charlie Hebdo, a satirical weekly that has drawn repeated threats for its caricatures of the Prophet Mohammed, among other controversial sketches.
Hollande's full statement:
Francois Hollande has been speaking to the media. He said that 11 people had been killed and four people seriously injured but 40 people had been rescued.
Hollande said that the security level had been increased in Paris and a number of terrorist plots had been foiled in recent weeks.
An emergency meeting will be held at the Elysees Palace in the next hour.
Hollande said France had experienced “an exceptional act of barbarism committed against a newspaper”.
France was facing a “shock”, he added. “We need to show we are a united country,” he said.
France had to be “firm and strong” adding: “We will fight these threats and we will punish the attackers.”
France had been targeted because it was a country of freedom but no one would be allowed to go against “the spirit of the republic” in this way.
Key updates via Twitter:
Police now say 12 killed in Paris attack including police officers #cbc
— Nahlah Ayed (@NahlahAyed) January 7, 2015
Reports that several of #charliehebdo cartoonists are among the dead #cbc
— Nahlah Ayed (@NahlahAyed) January 7, 2015
Impacts d un fusil type kalachnikov @Charlie_Hebdo_ pic.twitter.com/0QLG30C8Fl
— Julien Rebucci (@julienrbcc) January 7, 2015
The eleven dead in #CharlieHebdo attack are reportedly nine journalists and two police officers.
— Mark MacKinnon (@markmackinnon) January 7, 2015
Les tireurs de #ChalieHebdo face à une voiture de police. Ils ont fait feu, les policiers ont répliqué puis reculé pic.twitter.com/Ld1sxkRLvW
— Elise Barthet (@EliseBarthet) January 7, 2015
Police say it was carnage "a butchery" inside Charlie Hebdo. Can see police car riddled with bullets.
— Kim Willsher (@kimwillsher1) January 7, 2015
Police spokes. "It was a commando with Kalasnikov and pump action ...they went in there to kill".
— Kim Willsher (@kimwillsher1) January 7, 2015
Paris attackers believed to still be at large ... Hollande says france is in shock #cbc
— Nahlah Ayed (@NahlahAyed) January 7, 2015
Hollande at the scene of the attack "An act of exceptional barbarism has been committed today" pic by @stefandevries pic.twitter.com/PjRzEfArnc
— Conflict News (@rConflictNews) January 7, 2015
France on highest alert after Paris terror attack - AP
— Breaking News Feed (@PzFeed) January 7, 2015
Meilleurs vœux, au fait. pic.twitter.com/a2JOhqJZJM
— Charlie Hebdo (@Charlie_Hebdo_) January 7, 2015
More on the controversial history of Charlie Hebdo via the Guardian:
Charlie Hebdo has a long record of taking its satire seriously. The weekly magazine’s response to previous efforts at intimidation was to be even more controversial or outrageous, defying the constraints of religious sensitivity or political correctness.
In November 2011, its offices were fire-bombed after it had published a special edition, supposedly guest-edited by the Prophet Mohammed and temporarily renamed ‘Charia Hebdo’. The cover was a cartoon of Mohammed threatening the readers with ‘a hundred lashes if you don’t die laughing’.
The petrol bomb attack completely destroyed the Paris offices, the magazine’s website was hacked and the staff were subjected to death threats. But six days later, it published a new front page depicting a male Charlie Hebdo cartoonist passionately kissing a bearded Muslim man in front of the charred aftermath of the bombing. The headline this time was: L’Amour plus fort que la haine (Love is stronger than hate).
Less than a year after that, it published more cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed, including images of him naked and a cover showing him being pushed along in a wheelchair by an Orthodox Jew. The French government had appealed to the magazine not to go ahead with publication, and shut down embassies and schools in twenty countries when it went ahead anyway, out of fear of reprisals.
Live webcast from France 24:
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At some point in the future it will be illegal to practice Islam.
Ali Sina of www.faithfreedom.org. Sina writes: "Islam is not a religion. Considering Islam a religion is a foolish mistake that could cost millions of lives. Islam is a political movement set to conquer the world. It is the Borg of the non-fictional world. Islam has one goal and one goal alone: to assimilate or to destroy."
mosque = terrorist safehouse / bank
3000 built by house of saud in the ussa, the same house fo saud that financed 9/11 and continues to fund terrorism
26 terror training camps in the ussa
tick tok tick tok...
why is KSM / khalid sheik mohammad stilll alive...???
why is major hassam still alive... ??
why are the gitmo detainees still alive and muzzie obumbler not only freeing them but paid qatar $5 billion to boot...
why did stupid release 5 top al queda to get a traitor bo bergdhal...
why is the military report finding him a deserter and traitor being concealed..???
because the white house is supporting the enemy / treason.. and stupid is one of them...
So close - you almost got it all right! Americans need to wake up to the truth about 911 and stop blaming muslims hijacking planes - do we really still believe that 2 planes took down 3 builidings at freefall demolistion speed in their own footprint - especially when 2 of those buildings were built to withstand direct hits by planes? Time to wake up stupid Americans - the entire world is laughing at you and wondering how stupid Americans are -
www.rethink911.org
911-Conspiracy Finally Solved!: Names, Connections, Motives, 911Matrix of Details Exposed! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdE1Cwnymzc&feature=youtu.be&app=desktopUse the mind you were born with and judge for yourself after viewing all the evidence - time to wake up - then wake up someone else!
the headline should read "It's Islam"
#exterminateislam
Kudos to the French police. Last time the known "ISIS fighters" (Mossad agents) were arriving to France, the Police was waiting for them at the wrong airport.
Suck on this multi-cultural scum!
Far-right forever!
Oh Boy!!!
We can't wait to find out who did this one -especially Monsieur Hollande?... Those aircraft carriers are getting rustier by the minute!
If the French people are smart they will demand a very public autopsy of every single victim unlike the ones at Sandy Hook!...
And if it was a genuine attack?...
We know who funded it -in D.C.!
Maybe they could have taken steps to prevent this from happening.
Like multiple security doors, a location several stories below ground, bullet proof glass, bomb proof doors, or maybe virtual office with false names for all the employees with numbered bank accounts for payroll...
Or they could just stop making fun of a particular groups religious prophet.
Naahhhh. Freedom of Speech Bitchez!!!
Within Muslim communities, the moderates know who the fundamentalists are. They need to self regulate.
Get your head out of the sand - All Muslins have one text/giude book that gives them their marching orders - Tha Koran - Kill all nonbelievers is the islamic law. Their is no "radical" islam - None. All Islam is radical.
read the talmud ace.
IQE
Looks like the "usual suspects" in those French neighborhoods need another excuse!
The neighbors outside of Tel Aviv are so unfriendly these days! Looking for a new beach property in Europe to make new friends!
Don't talk bullshit. Islam is as radical as catolicism.
Fool. Dupe. Ignorant Ass.
Lets get this straight - there is no moderate Islam - they will always support the extremists and never stand up to them - they haven't in 1400 years - there is only one koran and they all go to the same mosques that preach from this one koran. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY8FW_JW73Q that is what is in the koran - read it before you make ignorant comments - tired of dumb westerners defending the indefensible or buying into the moderate muslim bullchit
EDUCATE YOURSELF AND THEN EDUCATE OTHERS
http://www.amazon.com/Simple-Koran-Readable-Understandable-Islamic/dp/09...
Bottom Line....Fundamentalists just DO NOT GIVE A SHIT. Doesn't matter what you say, and it doesn't matter whether the Fundamentalists are ISLAMIC, JEWISH, OR FLYOVER STATE BIBLE THUMPERS. If you make fun of their prophet, or make the mistake of living where their bible says they are supposed to live, or you like having consentual sex with other same sex partners, they are going to fuck you up.
Every religion has Fundamentalists. They have so much in common they should have they're own country.
11 downs (so far). I can only assume from people who never read the Koran or else from people who know it all too well. It's a demonic book.
I think that the execution of a wounded policeman lying on the ground is what is going to bring Le Pen at the helm.
Islam is evil - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY8FW_JW73Q
"Knives are evil." Equally valid argument to make. Gimme a side to take, and I'll give you tons of good arguments.
How do YOU say "False Argument"?
1- Loi de programmation militaire passed on Dec 24 2014 contains the equivalent of H.R. 4681 and authorizes the gov to spy on French citizens without due process
2- Jan 7 2015. Massacre at French newspaper. Within 20 minutes the president labels it "terrorism". Shhoters still at large.
3- The shooters are caught and presented to the public as "muslims that fanticized themselves over the internet"
4- The gov proposes a law to censor those horrible fanatic muslim sites so this can never happen again
5- Stupid French fucks don't see the manoeuvre. law passes.
6- Said law is extended to anything going against approved gov thinking
7- 1+6 = Dictatorship
Same process as in the USSA really.
I think for an effective Dictatorship you're gonna need someone who doesnt look like that creepy guy who smiles when he measures your suitpants inseam.
Look at Prime Minister Manuel Valls. He's got the looks for the job. Hollande is a buffoon without a clue. Valls (and Sarkozy before him) are ambitious, involved in the great plot and dangerous.
Not taking sides here, but It shows how a couple of AK's with balls can shoot back at.....(fill in the blank).
Wish I could upvote more this comment
i read yesterday that france was about to send aircraft carrier charles de gaulle in persian gulf against isis..maybe they should eliminate the home grown terrorist first..
Stay home, mind own business and expect much less trouble come blowing back.
Reports are that Obama is pushing Hollande to declare it as "Work Place Violence".
Obama, does your Allah ring hurt your finger?
Google
http://www.popscreen.com/v/74otd/Obamas-Ring-There-is-No-God-Except-Allah
Qui bono?
Likely outcome: more police power, more surveillance, more anti-muslimism, more intervention in muslim countries.
File: Unsafe to make nude cartoons of the Prohet Mohamed.
File: Unsafe to make nude cartoons of the Prohet Mohamed.
Not just cartoons; a sustained attack on Islam over many issues. There are, what, over a billion muslims around the world? You want to start a fight with them, you should expect some retaliation. The French authorities had intelligence this was coming but the magazine declined police security. W.T.F.
Lots of stupidity all round.
have you any to share?
I sense the wheels are turning Banzai's head right now.
A wise political artist avoids unnecessary provocation.
Those people obviously did not deserve to die. However, they chose a a nasty enemy to provoke, for what purpose I don't know, and they did not take adequate precautions. WTF?
Now in a sense, they have martyred themselves for the cause of European Anti-Islamicism.
It is nauseating to once again listen to all the politicians pontificating about the free press. The same ones who constantly persecute journalists and whistleblowers.
Dag nab it Williambanzai7, I acutally think, you are right. They poked with a stick, a group that is very dangerous. And, obviously, they were not prepared to defend themselves. In a sense, a very real sense, they did exactly as you said, the martyred themselves.
Unarmed guys should not tease guys with a track record of violence.
"Don't poke the Alien"
"Ferocious Planet"
http://www.popmatters.com/review/144520-ferocious-planet/
The provacation enabled thousands more to see Islam for its true self. 12 lives so that thousands might prepare. A noble sacrifice.
AMEM Banzai. ITA. NO different than that drunk Danish 'cartoonist'. It's a death wish on par with the jihad martyrdom meme which is of course another one of their favorite things to draw.
Why throw gas on fire? Lots of provoke talkings here...
THE EDITOR IN CHIEF WON A PRIZE FROM ' GOLDEN DAWN '.
Am not condoning the EXECUTIONS BUT
HE PUT HIMSELF ON THE FRONT LINE AS A FASCIST/ NAZI
Yes, the shooters were obviously antifa.
Dick.
' You talking to me CUNT? '
Let's meet up and i'll RIP YOUR FACE OFF SHORT ASS.
Oooh, I bet he's quaking in his boots now. You sure showed him, hard man of the internets!
And don't you forget it asshole
Forget what? Sorry, I'm concentrating on more important things like taking a shit.
All i'm saying is that better it happening to Nazi Sympathisers than Ordinary folks. (Did not down you regardless).
If you are concerned the GOOD NEWS is there are 10 VACANT JOBS.
If you can erase the SWASTIKA on your forehead you never know they can shortlist you for Interview.
Much more than 10 jobs, I heard the French Army have all quit.
France has raised its terror alert level to the highest possible - "White flag".
Vomit comment ...
Happily for the US they didn’t surrender at Chesapeake and Yorktown ! The USA wouldn’t exist then …
This kind of ugly disdain and nasty jokes come from the firm refusal of the French to join America in Irak, in 2003. Since France refused to go to Iraq, American warmongers and neo-cons made French army look like cowards – as a punishment. Surrender jokes are the left overs of the 2003 Bush hate fest against the French.
But History has proved the French were right, and that the WMD were only a dirty trick to serve as a pretext.
Nevertheless, the hate of American warmongers against France remains still there, well alive, even in ZH.
This stale hate still shows through "innocent good jokes" about the “surrender monkeys” and their white flag … As for the rest, the French can be proud of their Military History which remains despite these stupid jokes the best military record in Europe.
In fact the French - surrounded by the Germans, English, Dutch, Italians and Spaniards (among others) - succeeded to win and guard the largest country in the very heart of Europe.
According to the British historian Niall Ferguson they did it by fighting 168 major wars even against such badasses as the Roman Empire, the British Army and the Turkish forces. They've won 109, lost 49 and drawn 10 times.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Armed_Forces
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_history_of_France
WTFUD
Anybody that opposes open boarder free for all from the third world type immigration in Europe is considered a natzi by the elite progressives. So I guess it's ten down and millions to go according to you.
Multiculturalism for the win. The US is one of these attacks away from a minor war in a major city.
Yes. . . The US needs to import 10 million ragheads to promote diversity and multiculturalism. Cuz we need some beheadings to go with our Sinaloa-sponsored pozolero liquidations.
Dang it you totally whipped my ass I was typing that same thing, nicely done
Workplace violence indeed, workplace and violence no furtehr description needed..
Lots if ITG's out today
Terrorism is theatre.
Understand first and foremost the truth in that statement, that terror is for those watching more so than for those killed.
So far it seems:
1) Highly trained killers.
2) Clean escape, it appears
3) Islam immediately blamed in corporate media
Avoid early, emotional judgements and gain as many facts as one can.
yes, lets not blame Islam
the religion of pieces
Your comments, Ignatius, are some of the most clear and intelligent on this site.
The media also probably censors any muslims if they have an alternative opinion as they do with alternatives in the US.
agree with The Chief - in a swamp of conclusion jumpers and obvious knee-jerks, not to mention a handful of accounts less than a few weeks old,
Ignatius manages to stay in observation mode.
perhaps it's because he's been steadfast in watching this narrative unfold since. . .
well, since fourteen years of (recent) events. and fourteen is divisible by 7.
2015 will be an event-full year. today's events happened on the 7th.
pay attention, or be herded into corners, your choice.
Trolls have old accounts too. What they do is dilute the comments on the thread with so much noise the good ones are drown out. Somebody proposed a test to post at all, a challenge difficult enough to weed out the trolls and chickenheads...
You must not have been here for the captcha math tests.
I was, and agree, there were less ditto-head disruptions then, more well-thought out replies. the voting thing has also drowned the thoughtful, as so many posters prefer to get the crowd-roar than actually THINK.
filling in the threads with multiple repetitions, same tired memes, anything for the crowd-roar.
peoples just like to fit in, fuck research, let's hate!!
oh, and quote scripture. that's my fave, the scripture-fulls and their hate-targets. . .
still, it's my habit to scroll these threads occasionally, taking the crowd "pulse" - I take full responsibility for that.
party on ZH'rs!
Yes the arrows were the harbingers of doom. It was better when we could just junk a post until it was gone. Now we get a little facebook feeling for everything. People tried to tell Sac it wouldn't work but they went where they went.
At some point they were going to do various tiers. I got an email at some point from sac stating I was a gold member yada yada but it never seemed to go anywhere.
trained chimps......ehrrr, sorry, trained SEALS, once they know how to "vote" y'just can't stop the inevitable consequences.
from the depths rises up the greatest trollage, the most up-votes gathered, and then the competition to emulate overtakes. . .blahblahblah, derivatives.
it's the age of personal anecdote, twits twitter, "likes" are sought as merit badges, most real thinking just disappears in a
*poof*
stick to music, in the right hands, it's creative & real.
A renewed love of music is actually one of the best things to come out of ZH IMHO. Radio Zero got me back into making music. I still have Marla's equipment list she posted once. While I have not been collecting I did learn what each piece did and why you use it.
That led to going back to school and picking up some hands on mixing and mastering skills. I have a small following and it keeps me busy. It won't make me rich but it makes me and others pretty happy and excited.
What Marla and Slewie taught me was that at some point you have to go out there and have a life. What's the point of chasing the pips if it consumes all of your time?
Anyway, nice reminiscing with you CA.
It's one thing to stand against terrorism and radical religious zealots. But it's another thing to provoke them like that. I think they were asking for the confrontation.
What do you do when Muslims don't like your government? Adopt sharia law so as not to "provoke" them?
Just put down the bong and step away.....
Grimaldus
'those who are not willing to kill live at the suffrance of those who are'
Thats the reward you get when you let Muslims into your Country. Just kick the ones out who do not want to fit into their new Country and dont loose any sleep over it. Also let the bleeding Hearts go with them. Those Muslim want a War, lets give them one back.
Deport them snackbars
Haveing seen the pictures and videos around this morning its pretty clear those guys have been trained somewhere.
Im sure the people of france thank you for that mccain.
If I were a Muslim, I'd start pulling my head out of my ass and condemn this shit before I became the next Jew.
Might wait a few days and see what Sheik Imran Hosein says about this...
Muslim Scholar Malaysia YouTube site
some here bash all Muslim might have learning experience
As you and I both know, the enemy isn't muslims, whites, blacks, jews, or any particular race, creed or color...it is the money interests that perpetrate this crap to continue the well tried and true divide and conquer that has worked for centuries keeping the slaves in line.
Just watch. The main issue for Muslim 'community leaders' will be the possibility of Islamaphobia.
Most "community leaders" are owned there by the same money interests as are the "community leaders" are here in the US, not surprising that the standard response would be as you said.
Wall Street set for record day. Everything green. Merry Russian Christmas!
You Americans are stupid. Havn't any of you been reading zero hedge. This is another obvious false flag = attack on french citizens by their own government. Do you knuckleheads still believe in islam terrorists and and box cutters? say it again - False Flag
Yes - the religion of peace - of course.
The pen is mightier than the Sword. But just in case, give the Cartoonists some 44 Magnums.
WE are all cartoonists.
/Sean Connery
"They bring a pencil, you bring a bazooka"
/Sean Connery
This attack was stupid and committed by stupid people, whoever they are and whoever paid them.
Won't be surprised if more info comes out that indicates it was a false flag. Oh wait I forgot...false flags don't exist and all Muslims are demons. My bad.
Hate to be a racist, but fucking kick the fucking muslims back to their third world shit hole of origin. ALL OF THEM. GET THE FUCK OUT.
Nothing racist about hating crazy murdering fucks whose entire life revolves around kool-aid drinking stupidity.
Well, if we stopped funding the insane zionist mass-murderers, perhaps they'd have a place to live in their homelands.
Funny, the ragheads seem to be perfectly content to view OUR homeland as THEIR homeland.
Complex issues there Moshe. First destroy their homelands by perpetual warfare. Then get your dual-citizen politricksters to mandate immigration reform to let the most radical of these groups into various targeted countries. Whoala, all baked into your zioqueer cake.
Exactly what the fuck is their "homeland" please? Expound a bit.
For you uneducated types, it usually refers to a place where one comes from. In this case, many of the countries they used to live in have been bombed into oblivion by a 12+ years of zionist wars of conquest as they purge the areas to build their fantasy greater israel. Doubt me? Documented fact. Look it up.
And the prior 980 years of raghead beheadings? What were they retribution for?
What race is Islam again? Islamists came up with the idea to counter any criticism of Islam by calling people a racist and in essence shutting down the conversation - Islam is not a race and being opposed to Islam is not racist regardless of how many times Islamist try to say it is - stop buying into the propagand - clearly by your statement it is working on some....
My wife is an immigrant with a different colour skin and a different religion to me but we get on just fine so I don't believe I am a racist.
Islam, in my view, is not a religion, it is a culture and a whole way of life It clashes with free speech, democracy, rule of law and every other western value we have.
Get the bastards out before it is too late.
Are you sure France isn't a third world shithole at this point?
Even though I gave you a +1 for "Gee, wouldn't be nice if...", I'll argue...
"Hate to be a racist, but... frikking kick the frikkin Blacks back to their 3rd world sh*t hole. All of them. Get the f*ck out. And while we're at it...
frikking kick the frikkin Whites back to their European sh*t holes. Same for the Asians too. Give the land back to the Natives".
See my point?
" WHITE EUROPEANS at its BEST "
i'm french , i live in france and i follow from a long time the political and alternative media sphere in france , thus i can offer a few opinions in all humility:
_first obsiouvly RIP to these journalists that were quite known in france
_ secondly, this newspaper "charlie hebdo" has been, for the past few years, in the center of some very , VERY, "strange" events. It's complicated but to put it simply, this news paper has been already a few month earlier, the target of an attack (the building caught fire partially ) that was VERY suspected by some people of being a false flag.
the reason of these prior suspission of "charlie hebdo" being a the center of fals flag is simply that it's political line had very violently and suddenly shifted toward the direction of promoting a clash of civilization betwin christians and muslims (for the benefit of a tribe that i will not mention).
let me be clear, i'm not naive at all and i'm not a fan of islam, nor am i delusioned enough to believe that every terrorist event is always a "falsflag", but anybody that is awake in france and who knows the VERY strange events around this charliehebdo newspaper for the past few mounth (it was basically used blatantly to promote chrisitian/muslim clash), knows that the falsflag is very probable in this latest case also.
I can't go into too much detail of the political mood in france but this event will have huge repercussions. There will be a big attack on internet freedom and every truthseeker will be labelled a terrorist. it's the event that will sadly finalize the power grab of our zio/fascist government by deflecting economic anger toward muslisms (i'm against immigration and i don't have any particular "soft spot" for islam, i just don't want civil war )
The futur will tell the true nature of this event but the sad thing is that false flag are probably the sinlge most powerfull weapon against a population. The avergage french is drowning under propaganda (and sadly the average accepts it gladly) and will never be able IMO, to graps what is happening.
All i said is cliché and well known by all of you but the same and the same methodology is used again and again by our masters .All i can say finally is we must try to educate around us about false flag in the hope of awakening the masses...
more later if needed...
cheers to all
Was hoping to see some French cultural context.
Thanks for your post, looking forward for more as you indicated.
hello ignatius
i'm a little overwhelmed because there is so much details that could be said to explain the exact cultural context of france currently, and in the same time i try to follow the french live feed...
to try to put it simply, the average french is in a strange state of mind. We know the mass immigration is unbearable (basically the average city is polluted by constant violence by young immigrants), we know that the french economy is in total decline but basically i feel the french people are in the last stage before revolt, a stage where they try a LAST time to believe that france will improve (even if obsiously, everyboady subconsciously knows that france is very deep in trouble).
The french political elite is very worried by the slow economic collapse
to give you the political mood, the french political commentator begin, since a few mounth ago, to say, in mainstream TV, that if the french population start to awake, francois hollande could maybe not finish his presidency (there would a coup d'état and revolt etc)
there's "obvisoulsy not mass poverty but all french people know that in a few years, the middle class will be complety disappeared , will not exist anymore.
France is not in fullblown collapse but is exactly ON THE EDGE, culturally (mass immigration) economically (no more middleclass, unbearable taxation etc etc).
The working and middle classes are under assault all across the globe, pitted as they are against one another while mega-corporations seek lowest factor cost. Whether it's the intent or not (often seems it is), these "cultural clashes" function as cover for the degradation of decent working wages.
"Revolt" of who? and for what? It's a mess.
I was also hoping for a well-considered response from France, appreciate your weighing in.
and while I understand your perspective relates to recent history, important to consider as it is always unfolding,
I hope we all might include past historical events, and remember where France has "been", what nationstates it has extended its reach to historically, who it has destabilised, colonised, exploited, profited from. . . like all "Western" nationstates, there is much backstory, that if ignored, will result in shallow opinions not based in truths.
of course, that's the human condition, very few see through it, the majority are opinionated participants, armed and ready to "conquer".
it is what it is.
Political actors in France are betrayers plain and simple, they are worried? Imo no.
MLP is a scheme, nuff to say.
As for the French revolting... lol. The white are going extinct really fast and it is an aging population. There can't be a civil war as one team clearly is ahead of the other. Now clearly cops, and army still have it.
The coercitive power of modern states is always underestimated, they can get people quiet, they can also contain riots.
There are a lot of potentially troublesome areas in France suburbs and city, that is till the security of the state is not in danger, if it comes down to this they have the bullets and overall weaponry to keep us, commoners, quiet.
France is dead, plain and simple. The very idea of France, la France immortelle, according to De Gaulle is long gone, was already under his watch.
Now that is what I call smart and motivated false flag journalism... Get yourself executed while doing the false flag whipping frenzy, that sort of dedication brings tears to my eyes.. Thank you journalists, can't we get a couple thousand journalists with that type of dedication in AMERICA, SNIFF...
"Get yourself executed while doing the false flag"
i understand what you say and i'll try to explain
for a few years now, the journalists of charlie hebdo participated and cooperated with the governement to promote civilwar in france through a very brutal change of political line .
And in the end, these journalists never thought that this was a dangerous game and that doing the job of the elite could , at one point, mean that these same elites could sacrifice them for the big, final event
This dynamic (doing the job of the elite and then being sacrified) is true regardless if the shooters were truly islamists pissed of by the satirical drawings of this journal, or if they were secret services (true false flag)
one thing poeple should know: this charly hebdo was criticizing christians and islam, but strangely were incredibly less agressive with jews. For every people awake in france, the "shady" nature of this journal was obviously for a few years, to be an agent of the powers to promote civil war (again i'm not pro islam but a civil war doesn't serve the the french-christian's people interests)
There's alot more of interesting details about this all affair that go in the sens of the point that i present, but the language barrier will make it difficult for me to share.
cheers
Let me be clear I am not disagreeing with your premise I do not have enough information to do so. I am simply hoping we can get mostly Washignton and new York based journalists to take their job so seriously here in America, thats all..
Cheers
That's written well, seeing as you're not an English speaker. You could shorten it, though, I've condensed your message into just THREE words, which might be useful in the future.
"It's the Joos."
No need to thank me ;-)
I upped you because you are right. It is the Jews.
When they false-flag their way to a proper gun-grab in the US, make sure to let 'em have it.
If the paper has been used to blatently promote a "chrisitan/muslim clash" I'd be interested to know if there's been equal time spent on the ridiculing of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob too. And since we're all friends here and it's all satire anyway, how about throwing in some Mel Brooks' Moses features in while we're at it?
If the biblical account is accurate, all three, (Ishmael, Isaac and Jesus) share the same lineage, with the lion's share of the blame to be placed on Abraham's sister/wife for suggesting her brother/husband sleep with a much younger and fertile Hagar. He evidently considered it a good idea at the time and since his own wife of 60+ years urged him on, what man wouldn't do it? So yeah, I guess there's plenty of fodder to consider when trying to assign responsibility to this mess.
And that's not even taking into account Ishmael and Isaac's 5 other brothers when their pop took up with Katura later on.
jmo.
"deflecting economic anger toward [muslisms]"
It won't be the first time this play has been deployed.
Guillotines are for politicians
You are to name him Ishmael (which means ‘God hears’), for the Lord has heard your cry of distress. 12 This son of yours will be a wild man, as untamed as a wild donkey! He will raise his fist against everyone, and everyone will be against him. Yes, he will live in open hostility against all his relatives.”
Genesis 16
any connections to Hollande saying sanctions against Russia should be dropped?
3 gunmen now....
Now if only someone coiuld get hold of those Muslim Cartoons John Boehner scribbled on his noteopad during that last State of the Union Speech.
It's time to admit that Muslims cannot assimilate into Western society.
What do you expect? Blowback. How many millions have the West killed in their countries since 911? How many refugeees? Over 10 million in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya alone. If you are going to wreak havoc and hell in their countries, you'd best eliminate Immigration into your own. Best thing to do is get out of the M iddle east and quit detroying their lands-our terrorism is a million times worse than the terrorism they have wreaked on the West.
Read the Koran clown. Then realize that all of Northern Africa and Turkey used to be Christian but are Muslim. Now why is that? Why is it that Islam was finally turned back in 1683 at the gates of Vienna during their first siege of Europe?
But we must spend all of the future earnings of all Americans to build greater israel. We must eradicate all of the current occupants of their fantasy map in order to accomplish this. Slaughter millions and create tens of millions of refugees, create ISIS and other terror groups through Gitmo and Mossad centers. The talmud tells us we are donkeys to be used up by the chosen. Get with it.
/sarc
These dudes drawing cartoons are somehow responsible for wars in Middle East?
Wars in middle east give some kind of justification for wanton murder of some cartoonists in an office?
If they wanted to strike back in a covert saboteaur fashion against people that were responsible for those wars, they have plenty of government offices, military bases or at least industrial sites of large value. Would they attack that, than sure - it would be just an act of war, a strike againt an enemy. But they attacked cartoonists for mocking their child fucking prophet - this is pretty obviously a testament to their idiotic religion, not a partisans handy work, but a handy work of a lunatic.
Some numbers on Muslim attitudes: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/opinion-polls.htm .
"It's time to admit that Muslims cannot assimilate into Western society."
Perhaps. But perhaps "It's time to admit that Ideological Extremists cannot assimilate into Western society." Seeing that we have our share already (e.g. Neocons with big budgets and big guns).
Or perhaps "It's time to admit that terrorist attacks happen whenever the Israeli regime is cornered into compliance with Western demands for civility".
BTW... I noticed that Americans (many here) have this uniquely American tendency to reduce everything to ONE single problem, one single (silver bullet) solution. Perhaps this is largely due to its Frontier and Religious-revival culture that has spread into the daily life of mainstream America. Madison Ave, Wall St and political lobbyists also operate on such simplicity: "If only you'd... If only...".
Such over-simplification (of multi-variable dynamics) is used by a group of people, called "Simpletons" or "Ideological Fundamentalists". These people are common in the US, and also in certain countries that have been hijacked by fundamentalist elements (in MENA and Eastern Europe). Clearly we are in good company, except that we got us better "toys": planes and drones. That we just love to use and sell.
This is typical of Europeans thinking. Why after all they belong to an elitist class that has thought all this multiculturalism through and believe all these religious people are the same. But when the facts speak loud and clear otherwise you simply must ignore the results. The simpletons blame a video. Blame a foreign policy. Blame a cartoon. Blame anyone accept the religious culture demanding everyone submit or die as the infidel. These Islamists are no different than the Nazis who ran all of Europe into the ground and that's exactly where Europe is headed.
Bal tragique à Paris 11 morts
As much fun as it is to create the FF & 'Zionists are everywhere all the time' themes, you have to remember that certain elements of certain groups take insults and images of their Pedo-Bear Prophet somewhat seriously.
Just another Allah Whackjob in the hood. It wouldn't be the first time.
I'll wait until theres no utility bills in the building for 3 years or all the 'witnesses' start turning up driving new Mercedes before I'm gonna bite.
Shovelhead, -- why wait, we are more than half way there. It's time to build a plan. The smarts have already done so.
Something tells me you're not really from Indiana.
Or at least not the coherent part of Indiana.
Such brave members of the "religion" of pieces...shooting unarmed wimminz.
There are 3 kinds of Muslims:
1) those that kill for allah
2) those that support and fund #1
3) bad muslims who will be treated just like we kaffir are treated
Lock and load bitchez.
The 1% importing millions of low skilled workers from the 3rd world into the West creating ghettos and balkanization will inevitably lead to ever greater internal conflict. In a way jihadism is just the muslim version of gangbanger.
White Man; what the hell is with you that caused you to allow this third world vermin into your countries?
Multiculturalism and more to the point... cultural relativity.
Political correctness pushed non-stop by the lamestream media.
'Convert or die' is not very multicultural. I dont see millions of Christian whites emigrating to majority-Muslim countries. Why is diversification such a one-way street?!?
the french surrender monkeys will say it is the magazines fault and that no cowardly backwards muslims were involved
Reminds me of an article I read a few years back where a prominent Frenchman (I can't recall whom) stated that "Islamists will not attack France because France is not their enemy."
Oops!
That in turn reminds me of a mafia movie I saw where the mafia takes over a business and the owner states "Great, now I've got the mafia as partners." Her conversation partner states "No. You're out. They don't have partners."
Hmm. Maybe killer Muslims "don't have partners" either. Hmm.
If this happened in America, the camel humping shooters would have targeted a place labeled a "gun free zone" with similar results.
However, if they attacked something other than a target in a "gun free zone", they'd very likely get fucked up and leave the scene in bodybags thanks to armed American whipping out their concealed .45s and shooting back.
Makes sense to hit the soft targets first. Hey ragheads, the state of California is calling. They're limited to 10-round mags out there, and a good number of 'em are always high.
Sacrebleu !
Hey False Flaggers, The news links below are just a recent snapshot of the carnage left by Islam. Are they false flags? I think not.
The attack in France is just regular Islam doing it's bloody business while their progressive dhimmi fellow travelers in tyranny look on in wonder and awe creaming in their pants and pronouncing Islam is the religion of peace.
'Prophet Has Been Avenged!': Assault on Office of Satirical French Newspaper Kills 12...
Charlie Hedbo's Last Tweet Mocked Caliph... Danish Mosque Confirms Support for ISIS and Suicide Bombers... Magician Beheaded by IS... IS Gives Jihadi Brides 5 Minutes to Pick a Husband... PA Siphons Gaza 'Rebuilding' Funds... Italy: Muslim Trashes Church While Reciting Quran... Bride Divorced and Reported to Police for Not Being a Virgin IS to Indonesia: We Will Enforce Sharia by Slaughter... Iran Bans Musician from Travel Because Group Includes Women Would-Be Suicide Bombers Beaten to Death by Afghan Locals... New Caliphate Deprives 670,000 Children of Education... Artist Beaten by 'Anti-Fascists' Abbas: Life Sentence with Hard Labor for Selling to Jews... 'Refugee' to US Burns Down Apartment Buildings... Church Guards Gunned Down in Cairo... Bosnian Imam Stabbed for Promoting Non-Violence... More Mass Graves of Yazidi Women and Children Found... Iraq: 5000 Yazidi Children and Women Sold into Sex Slavery Kuwaiti MP Charged for Voicing Doubts about Ban on Alcohol... Beheader Beheaded for Lighting Up?... Cafe Killer Fooled AUS into Granting Refugee Status... British National Tires of Gay Sex Propositions in Saudi... Cocaine Found at Home of ISIS Leader... Caliphate Runs $250 Million Budget Surplus... Swedish Mosque Fire Not Arson (or a Hate Crime)... Berlin: Jewish Man Beaten by Arabic Speakers... Hamas Terrorist Treated in Israel - Tries to Stay... Ceremony to Honor Victim Slain for Tolerant Views is Attacked Canada Looks to Send Gay Man Back to Islamic World... Malaysian Fatwas Frown on Botox, Petting Puppies... Hackers Mocked after Targeting Wrong Site... Pakistan: 311 Shiites Murdered in 2014... 'Every Person is Born a Muslim' Islam in Thailand: 17,000 Attacks in 11 Years... 'War Refugees' Pitch Fit over Sweden Being Too Cold'... Calls in Britain to Screen Toddlers for Extremist Views... Syria Commissions Suicide Bomber Platoon with Qurans... Suicide Bombings Surge 94% in 2014... Taliban Leader Uses LinkedIn... Boko Haram Preaches Before Abducting Children... Dutch Police Pay for Sharia Patrols to Keep Peace... Islam 'Forbids' Men from Becoming Homemakers... Iran to Amputate Thief's Hand... Man Yelling 'Allah Akbar' Tries to Strangle French Cop... Turkey to Allow First New Church in 90 Years... 20 Christians Separated and Abducted in Libya... ISIS Hostage Mocks Would-Be Rescuers in Propaganda Shoot Fatah Anticipates Netanyahu's Hanging by the ICC... Saudi Video: Horrible Mistreatment of Dog... 'Non-Violence' Imam Beats Wife While Shouting Quran Verses... (India) Buddhist Tourist Raped by Muslim Tour Guides... African Captives Used for Slave Farm Labor... German Journalist Fakes Hate for Other Journalists... Child Molested and Dumped at Mosque - Imam Suspected... Fatah Vows Retaliation Against 'Enemy' America... IS Blows Up Historic Castle... Pro-Sharia Group Linked to First Deadly Attack in AUS... 20 Former ISIS Militants Free on Australian Streets... Swedish Police and Fireworkers Forced into Retreat... Iran: Two Executions per Day... F*** the Court - I Only Answer to Allah!... Turks stage Annual 'Chase Santa Out of Town' Skit... Caliphate Fighters 'Have Ebola', Shoot More Doctors... Russian Republic Terrorists Pledge Loyalty to ISIS... Slavery the 'Biggest Honor' for a Non-Muslim Woman... Cleric Fears Banning Terror Incitement will Ban Quran... 3,500 Syrian Children Killed in 2014... Muslims Fume over Selena Gomez Ankle Pic... 'Bleak Future' for Egypt's Gays... UK Shocker: Muslim Schools Creating Social Division... France Hails 12% Decrease in Torched Cars... Pakistan Sends Suicide Mission to Gujarat... Saudi Air to Implement Gender Segregation... Ex-Mufti: Jews Planting Tree to Hide from Muslims... IS Threatens to Blow Up 2700-Year-Old Walls of Nineveh... Video Shows Shiite Militias as Brutal as ISIS... Feel-Good Interfaith Story from Nigeria 'Debunked'... Teen Arrested for Desecrating Quran in Britain... Sydney Killer Delivered Message on Islam to Packed Hall... Hamas Funded Kidnap and Murder of Israeli Teens... Saudis Open New Year by Beheading Drug Smuggler... 'Bad Day' More Likely in Muslim Countries... Caliphate Guide Tells Mothers to Ban TV and Promote Killing... Sydney Sheikh Implicated in Two Massacres... Man Flogged for Watching Porn ISIS Produced 'Most Influential' Song of 2014... 10-Year-Old Girl Brutally Tortured to Death... Islamist Party Leader Sentenced for Rape and Genocide... Aus. Housewife Fights Halal: 'Religious Tax'... Cleric Declares Buddha a Muslim Prophet... Father Christmas Taken Down in Jordan... PA Glorifies Synagogue Killers... Captured 15-Year-Old Girl Tried to Commit Suicide... UK Terror Suspects 'Go to Mosque Every Friday'... Saudi Religious Police Crack Twitter - Arrest 'Porn' Users... Catholic Nun: Yazidi Being Starved 'Like Animals'... Iran Raids Church on Christmas - Jails Iranian Christians... Iran's Leader Tells American Christians to 'Fight Oppression' Indonesia's Sharia Province Forbids Celebrating New Year Spikes Clamped to Nursing Mother's Breasts... Caliphate Member Beheads with Dull Knife to Maximize Pain... Friday Sermon: 'Even a Black Man Can Get into Paradise'... Saudis Crack Christmas Tree Smuggling Ring... PA: Killing Babies Part of the 'Resistance'... Santa Goes Rogue in Jerusalem Men on Ferry Beat Women and Children to Save Themselves UN Orders Burma to Grant Citi-zenship to Muslim Illegals... ISIS Sets Up Checkpoints - in Egypt... IS Member Forced to Shoot His Own Cousin and Friend... Financial Times: Buddhist Terror an 'International' Concern... German Rapper Gets Religious - Shuns Music for Severed Heads IS Supporters Create Hashtag for Ideas on Killing Pilot... Terrorist: Killing Innocents Forgivable 'Like Masturbation'... Egyptian Court Bans Jewish Festival on 'Moral' Grounds... French Suburb Honors Terror Mastermind... Fatwa: Women Who Swim in the Ocean Guilty of Adultery... Only 2% of Girls Get Intermediate Education in Islamist Swat... Male Model Joins the Jihad... Sweden: 36 Bombings in Malmo During 2014... IDF Saves Life of Palestinian Baby... NATO Out of Afghanistan - Taliban Vows to Keep Killing... Wife Storms Husband's Wedding to Second Wife... IS Told Boy to Fight Infidels Or See His Mother Raped... Hamas Blocks War Orphans from Visiting Israel... 'How to Stab a Jew' Video Goes Viral on Arab Social Media... Islamic State Executes 2,000 in Six Months... Queen's Guard Stages Historic Retreat over Fear of Terror... CAIR's Latest Hate Crime Hope Fizzles Out in California... Top Jailer of Journalists Brags of Having 'World's Freest Press' Islamic State Uproots 2 Million Iraqis from Homes... Pope's Gunmen Visits His Grave... Ex-Wife Killed with Acid for Remarrying... Iran Tests Suicide Drones... Woman Calls for Impaling Caliphate Opponents... Egypt Reduces Prison Sentences for Gay Wedding... Australians Convert to Islam - Rape Middle-Eastern Woman... al-Shabaab Shoots Christians for Christmas... LGBT Flee the Lash in Sharia-Run Indonesia... Animal Rights Activist Put on Trial for Speech in Egypt... Indonesia Brags of Tolerance - Threatens to Demolish Church Kurdish Female Fighters Named 'Most Inspiring Women of 2014 Yazidi Women Tell of Torture and Rape at Hands of Caliphate... IS Blows Up Church of the Virgin Mary Day After Christmas... Iran's Republican Guard: We're at Israel's Border... Nun Tries to War Americans... Danish Couple Brutally Beaten on Christmas Eve... 8-Year-Old Girl Raped on Roof of Madrassah... German Stabbed After Wishing 'Merry Christmas'... Muslim Youth Protect Church During Christmas Service... Video Shows Islamists Whipping Woman for Buying from Christian German Church Service Assailed by Immigrant Youth... #InsultErdogan Launched Following Teen's Arrest... Pastor Spends Fourth Christmas Behind Bars in Iran... 13-Year-Old Christian Girl Killed by Islamists... ISIS to New Mexico: 'Christmas Will Never Be Merry Again'... Jamaican Singer Gets Explicit Death Threats... 11-Year-Old Jewish Girl Badly Injured by Firebomb... Boko Haram Straps Suicide Vest to Young Girl... Erdogan Has 16-Year-Old Arrested for Insulting Him... al-Qaeda Kind of Pushes Rectal Bombs... ISIS Recruits Whole Families from Europe... Religion of Peace Cleric Charged with Terrorism... Muslim Gang Assaults Swedish Police Station... Kuwait Considers Giving Citizen-ship Rights to Non-Muslims... Female Drivers Treated as 'Terrorists'... US Puts $5 Million Reward on Released Gitmo Terrorist... US Releases More Gitmo Ter-rorists to Meet Obama's Goal... al-Qaeda Posts Instructions on Making Airline Bombs... Man Sentenced to Death for Writing Web Article... Video Catches Dog Cruelly Tortured in Saudi Arabia... Saudis Beef Security to Keep Women Out of Soccer Games... Largest Muslim Org in 'Moderate Indonesia': Death for Drugs... Sharia Cops Crack Down on Christmas Decor in Brunei... Caliphate 'Enthusiastic About Killing Hundreds of Millions'... Boko Haram in 2014: 9000 Killed 1.5 Million Displaced... Cleric: Fighting Taliban is Against Islam...Immigrant to Austria Cuts Down 'Jesus' Statue...
Grimaldus
Let's do a rough body count for the two groups of crazies, zionists and radical muslims over the past 100 years:
1. radical islam (created for the most part by the west to fight Russia) I'd say maybe 200-300K.
2. zionists: 200-250 million. This does not even begin to count the death and destruction created by zionist control of banking and government.
So I guess you zio-crazies are truly winning.
So does that excuse either from murder?
Lets get some more accurate body counts, as long as we are comparing piles of corpses left by criminal progressive governments and murdering Islamic governments and their operatives. Fellow travelers in tyranny and death. Your figures for Islam look way low.
http://thereligionofpeace.com/
http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/MURDER.HTM
You do the math, but yes safe to say hundreds of millions killed by their own government, be it progressive or Islamic in just one hundred years. Since islam is a political system and not a religion, we can just add their butchery to government murder totals.
For the record, I am an American who does not believe America should intervene at all in other sovereign countries affairs. I don't give a shit what they do, let them kill each other off if they want. And not one tax dollar in aid to ANY. What they do is their business and none of mine. The US government needs to get out of everyone's face and their wallets, including American citizens.
I will not be oblivious to what is going on though like so many..
Grimaldus
Fair enough. But then how would those MIC careers and stocks fare?
If it were me, I'd have a Constitutional Ammendment that forbids the sale, lease or donation of all arms and technologies to non-Western countries. And such actions would be an act of Treason.
But, as it is... the US, UK, Germany, France, Russia, China and Israel sell 95% of all arms around the world. That's a lot of lobbying going on by the MIC and the Bankers who finance them.
France will surrender "viva islamic state"
They did that when they let their gov start taking them in. Viva All World Third World!
This is clearly more peace, love and tolerance.
Are you awake yet libtards?
http://www.businessinsider.com/report-sarcelles-synagogue-car-explodes-2...
This car bomb looks a little sketchy and convenient....
A latter day Joan of Arc.
Marine le Pen.
French President 2017.
Their one hope.