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The "War On Terror" Turns Inward – DHS Report Warns Of Right Wing Terror Threat

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Submitted by Mike Krieger via Liberty Blitzkrieg blog,

What you are about to read from CNN is just the very beginning of the intentional demonization of a growing segment of the U.S. population that rightly believes the government is run by a collective of thieving, corrupt, immoral sociopaths. This isn’t speculation either, years of content on this site serves as definitive proof that this is true. Commingling dissent, violence and “right wing” ideology will be key in the ultimate division of government critics in these United States, and a successful attempt to scare people away from questioning a clearly degraded and parasitic status quo.

The writing has been on the wall for many years, and I’ve warned about this development on many occasions (links at the end). If Martin Armstrong’s model is correct, and the U.S. economy starts to move downward in fall 2015, dissent will spread across the land like brushfire and the status quo will call dissenters terrorists (they already did this during Occupy Wall Street). My advice to everyone listening is don’t fall for it, and instead unite together in order to achieve a peaceful societal and economic paradigm shift.

Sure, there will always be Neo Nazis and genuine racist crazies out there who hate the government merely because they are small-minded and filled with hate, but they are a small number compared to those who have genuine grievances against the system which are not being redressed. Stories like the following are pure government propaganda and are guaranteed to increase exponentially in the years ahead.

From CNN:

Washington (CNN) They’re carrying out sporadic terror attacks on police, have threatened attacks on government buildings and reject government authority.

Notice how CNN commingles violence with “rejecting government authority.” This is intentional, and meant to subliminally link the two ideas in the minds of the feeble minded who still get their news from CNN. In reality, there is no such connection. Conversely, this country was founded on the idea that a people should only submit to government when it working in their best interests. The first paragraph of the American Declaration of Independence is explicit:

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

Incredibly, this sentiment is now being associated with terrorism. Back to CNN.

A new intelligence assessment, circulated by the Department of Homeland Security this month and reviewed by CNN, focuses on the domestic terror threat from right-wing sovereign citizen extremists and comes as the Obama administration holds a White House conference to focus efforts to fight violent extremism.  

Some federal and local law enforcement groups view the domestic terror threat from sovereign citizen groups as equal to — and in some cases greater than — the threat from foreign Islamic terror groups, such as ISIS, that garner more public attention.?

 

The Homeland Security report, produced in coordination with the FBI, counts 24 violent sovereign citizen-related attacks across the U.S. since 2010.

The government says these are extremists who believe that they can ignore laws and that their individual rights are under attack in routine daily instances such as a traffic stop or being required to obey a court order.

 

While groups like ISIS and al Qaeda garner the most attention, for many local cops, the danger is closer to home.

 

A survey last year of state and local law enforcement officers listed sovereign citizen terrorists, ahead of foreign Islamists, and domestic militia groups as the top domestic terror threat.

 

The Homeland Security report’s focus on right-wing terrorists is a subject that garnered political controversy for the Obama administration in the past. In 2009, a Homeland Security report on possible recruitment of military veterans by right-wing militia groups prompted an outcry from veterans groups. 

Importantly, the report emanates from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), a bloated, ineffective, pointless and dangerous agency. Vox recent wrote an excellent article on the topic. Here are a few excerpts:

This hasn’t stopped DHS from trying to develop its own security capacity. It just means that whatever DHS does is already being done elsewhere in the government. And that duplication and fragmentation has made the national-security apparatus even harder to manage.

 

Take the example of equipment grants to state and local law enforcement. There were already two different federal programs to help police departments get equipment: the Department of Defense’s 1033 program, which sends out surplus military gear to law enforcement (and requires they use it within a year), and the Department of Justice’s Byrne grant program. But DHS now has its own set of grants to allow police departments to purchase military and other equipment. It’s supposed to be used for counterterrorism, but (just as with the other grant programs) police often end up using the equipment for routine drug enforcement.

 

And as a recent White House report pointed out, having three different departments giving resources to local police has made it harder to track how those resources get used. If the Department of Justice, for example, finds out that a police department has been misusing funds or violating the constitution, it can cut off DOJ grant money — but the police department can turn around and apply for help from the Department of Defense and DHS.

 

Or think of “fusion centers,” regional hubs supported by DHS to share information among multiple federal agencies and between state, local and federal law enforcement. The fusion centers aren’t limited to sharing information about terrorism (they’re also supposed to monitor other types of crime), but it’s definitely a big component of their mission. The problem is that the FBI already has Joint Terrorism Task Forces to investigate terrorism, and Field Intelligence Groups to share information about it. In a 2013 study, the Government Accountability Office looked at eight cities, and found that the fusion centers in all eight cities overlapped at least partially with the FBI’s counterterrorism work — and in four of them, there was nothing the fusion centers did that the FBI wasn’t already doing. (There are also other things within DHS that overlap with fusion centers’ other purposes.)

The DHS is an agency looking for a problem. Which is why it had nothing better to do last year than raid the makers of women’s world series underwear. Recall: “War on Terror” Targets Underwear – Department of Homeland Security Raids Maker of Unlicensed World Series Panties.

We simply don’t need it, and the longer it exists, the great threat to liberty it will become.

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For related articles, see:

Eric Holder Announces Task Force to Focus on “Domestic Terrorists”

Rep. Steve Cohen Calls Tea Party Republicans “Domestic Enemies” on MSNBC

New Hampshire City Requests a Tank to Deal with “Domestic Terrorist” Groups Like Occupy Wall Street and Libertarians

The New Orwellian Term for Americans that Disagree with Government: “Paper Terrorists”

It’s Official: The FBI Classifies Peaceful American Protestors as “Terrorists”

 

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Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:46 | 5811052 Billy the Poet
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But then John McCain hasn't endorsed the Oathkeepers.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:24 | 5810929 Unix
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It's the neo-liberals that are the terroristas, just look at the WH, the manchild is fundamentally changing Amerika alright! I guess for that, and a host of other reasons, they feel I am a terrorist.

Christian, gun owner, conservative, small govt advocate, against the police state, against being world police, balanced budgets, secure the borders, etc etc...I am for everything this administration is against.

no no no, it's not God Bless America, it's God damn America...Rev Wright

We need to kill 25 million Americans...Bill Ayers

Ferguson, New York, etc...black lives matter...that is ready to explode when the weather warms up

Secret cabals...Illuminate, Free Masons, Skull and Bones, etc

I better dig a bigger hole!?

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:17 | 5810932 sun tzu
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Obama's sons have killed 100 times more cops than any right wing groups. 

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:25 | 5810958 Future Jim
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59 cops were killed last year; whereas, 1100 people were killed by cops.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:27 | 5810970 SmackDaddy
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the most frequent cause of death among cops is car accidents they cause...

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:28 | 5810978 Unix
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how many blacks were killed by other blacks...far outstrips those numbers!

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:50 | 5811068 Billy the Poet
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Just keep focusing on those bad black people and forget that the US Government may be profiling you as a domestic threat. It's not like you're playing right into their hands or anything.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:03 | 5811117 Unix
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See my post to Jim...

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:56 | 5811092 Future Jim
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I don't blame black people. They are under a different kind of attack by government and other progressives that would be very hard for anyone in their position to overcome as is explained in What is Wrong With the People.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:02 | 5811113 Unix
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Just citing numbers there Jim, I am not a hater!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:57 | 5811226 Billy the Poet
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But you do have a great sense of comedic timing. Bravo!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:00 | 5811230 Unix
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I swear, it seems someone is following me? Nah, must be my imagination

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:13 | 5811251 Billy the Poet
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Monkeys make great straight men. Otherwise it's purely coincidence.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:14 | 5812118 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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maybe they are under a dfferent kind of attack for a reason?  maybe because it produces results 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:16 | 5812129 InTheLandOfTheBlind
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so equality to you is purely mathematical?  one cop must die for every perp they kill?  are you assuming all 1,100 of these deaths were unjustifiable?  

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:37 | 5811012 trulz4lulz
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Nearly all us police fatalities by gunshot in the merikastan region have been comitted by other cops, thus far in 2015. So ina way, yes you are right.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:18 | 5810934 Duc888
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DHS jobs program.. Create ficticious "enemies".

DHS, protectors of our Constitution. LOL.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:19 | 5810938 NoDebt
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CNN and other MSM outlets are the propoganda arm of government.  They lie.  They don't report news, they promote government-approved narratives.  There are no such internal right-wing terror attacks and I defy anyone to document one.

"Right wing extremists" like myself (who dare to support things like the Constitution and individual liberties) don't have to do shit but wait for them to collapse under their own weight.  The last thing we would ever want to do is call attention to ourselves.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:31 | 5810994 Yen Cross
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 Red Blooded, Honest Americans, like No Debt are terrorists.

 Tax Paying decent individuals like NoDebt are terrorists!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:48 | 5811288 OldPhart
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Now you done fucked up.  FBI readers are launching a visit to your porch (as they did mine).

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 02:40 | 5811331 August
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"Right wing extremists" like myself (who dare to support things like the Constitution and individual liberties) don't have to do shit but wait for them to collapse under their own weight.  The last thing we would ever want to do is call attention to ourselves."

Quoted for truth.  I occasionally make semi-inflamatory statements about resisting the US System, but it really boils down to: 1) do not, to the maximum extent possible, support their phoney "economy" and phoney "money", and 2) be as disruptive as you can be without getting yourself thrown in prison. 

Bide your time.  Do NOT shoot the mailman. 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 03:03 | 5811354 OldPhart
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"collapse under their own weight."

Exact same words I told FBIguy.  But I added "I'm a crank, not a kook."

Do have to give props to my wife, though, she's a trooper.  Thinks the whole thing was funny in a Dr. Evil way.

And flat out refused requested entrance until I arrived.  There's a reason I married that ancient bitch.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:19 | 5810940 countryboy42
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1033 program, which sends out surplus military gear to law enforcement (and requiries they use it within a year)

Well, there's your problem. "Gotta use our new shit on some one, or we can't keep it. Give Barney that rocket launcher."

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:19 | 5810942 Navymugsy
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The threat is now anyone who disagrees with the psychopaths running the government. Laugh if you want but the FEMA camps aren't for holding people after a natural disaster.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:21 | 5810948 Unix
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Indeed, and the piles of coffins aren't for storing food!

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:53 | 5811077 Billy the Poet
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That depends on the menu.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:01 | 5811107 Unix
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I believe it is the special of the day

We The People

or is it

We the Sheeple

Not enough are awake that is for sure!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:59 | 5811228 Billy the Poet
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To Serve Man.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:49 | 5811290 OldPhart
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<---Long Pork

<---Soylent Green

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:40 | 5810993 Renfield
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<<The threat is now anyone who disagrees with the psychopaths running the government.>>

Those psychos are the servants. The real ruler of any country in the so-called "west" is its central bank, and the shareholders who own it and profit from it. These evil governments are the Nazgul. They disappear only when their power does, the One Ring, the One Bank.

We can keep on excising these evil politicians, continuing to "vote out" the bad and "vote in" even worse. Or, we can take aim at our central banks: avoid them and their funny money, expose them, track them, audit them, oppose them and eventually rid ourselves of them.

Self-sufficiency (meaning, apart from government, NOT apart from other people) is becoming the ONLY effective revolution.

Here's a great article from Thailand that expounds on the EVIL committed by the central banking cabal and their puppet governments all over the world, and how to take effective action against these unelected, unrepresentative, parasite rulers, through self-sufficiency. It's a long article but I thought it was worth the time to read, if you're looking for something quiet to last thru your cup of coffee.

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.ca/2012/10/self-sufficiency-local-solution...

From the introduction:

<<Take Glenn Beck's disingenuous 2010 "Restoring Honor" event in Washington D.C. It drew thousands of honest, well-intentioned people from all over the United States. Indeed, thousands of people filled up their Fortune 500 made cars with gas from Fortune 500 oil companies, drove countless miles, stopping along the way at Fortune 500 fast food restaurants, stayed at Fortune 500 run hotels, and stocked up on supplies purchased at Fortune 500 Walmart. They slaked their thirst under the hot August sun with cans of Fortune 500 Pepsi and Coke, and at the end of the day, they drove home, paid their Fortune 500 cable subscriptions to watch their Fortune 500 media reports, most likely on News Corporation's Fox News, a Council on Foreign Relations corporate member. At best, all a protest will lead to, while we are so hopelessly dependent on this system, is a round of musical chairs inside the political arena, with perhaps superficial concessions made to the people. The vector sum however, will still be decidedly in favor of the global corporate-financier oligarchy. If we understand that the fundamental problem facing not only America, but the entire world, is a global corporate-financier oligarchy that has criminally consolidated their wealth by "liberalizing" their own activities while strangling ours through regulations, taxes, and laws, we should then understand why events like Beck's "Restoring Honor" are not only fruitless, but in fact, counterproductive. We should also realize that any activity we commit ourselves to must be directed at this corporate-financier oligarchy rather than the governments they have co-opted and positioned as buffers between themselves and the masses.>>

I believe that the reason the MSM is taking aim against sovereign citizens is that sovereignty is growing in power enough to be seen as a real "threat". (Obviously, not a lot left for Rothschild parasites from a self-sufficient citizen or family.) First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you... then you win. I believe we have reached the early "fight you" stage.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:40 | 5811028 El Vaquero
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"Self-sufficiency is fast becoming the ONLY effective revolution."

 

A favorite question of mine for people who advocate revolution:  Do you know where your food is produced?

 

More and more people are taking up gardening as a hobby.  I don't think it's because they want to be green.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:40 | 5811195 Bollixed
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Yes, you better make friends with the dirt. I see a lot of gold, guns, and god people who couidn't grow a dandelion if their life depended on it. I onced asked a local farmer buddy of mine if he buys any PMs and he just laughed at me and said,"Once the SHTF I'll have people throwing that stuff at me."

Now whether that's true or not, the point he was trying to make during our conversation was that most people have no idea how fast their food supply will evaporate or how to get food once the distribution channels break down.

And there is so little time to prepare that if you aren't knee-deep into it by the time you need to grow your own food you'll be left out of the loop. I'm glad I started years ago to get ready. That city I moved out of and it's people are going to be screwed by their own sleepwalking.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:55 | 5811222 El Vaquero
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I'm glad I don't need to learn how to do it either.  While there is always something new to learn about gardening/farming/food production, there is a huge difference between even your first and second years.  Everything that I read when I started talked about raised beds, and people love them just about everywhere.  So, that's how I started.  I eventually made a stark observation about them:  They're great when you get enough water to require a bit of drainage.  I live in a desert, I want to capture all the water that I can, so I inverted the raised beds, i.e. I now plant in depressions.  In my established beds, I now use a lot less water.  That's kind of handy for a desert.  If the grid went down, but I didn't have to bug out, I can still get water, but irrigating a lot vs irrigating a little without running water that I can just pipe to the garden makes this a no brainer.  Carrying buckets is hard work!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:09 | 5811246 Bollixed
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Yea, you can't cover every bad scenario or be prepared for every worst case hiccup but you do need to start somewhere. I'm way the hell the out in the country where it's nothing but farmland. Plenty of water, too. I love working the ground with my tractors the most. Luckily I'm old enough I may die from old age before the SHTF if I'm lucky.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 02:54 | 5811342 _Doomsayer
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I've had some pretty amazing results with terraced aquaponic grow beds. It's interesting to me that so many people realize that the only way rational, ethical, individuals can beat the system, is to leave it and all of its convenient traps.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:03 | 5811900 Anonymous_Benef...
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Going on 6 years of reading the Hedge and I finally came to the same conclusion about 2 months ago. Guess I'm a slow learner.

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:12 | 5811927 Anonymous_Benef...
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Sounds like hard work, Vaquero.

Have you looked into aeroponics? The 90% water reduction is huge...that's a lot less water carrying! 

Couple that with a walipini and we are looking at year round production of fresh, healthy veggies.

I'm hoping to perfect this system and be building them for free within a couple of years..the only motivation being to render the parasites at the top irrelevant. 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:38 | 5811284 Miffed Microbio...
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Actually, so called weeds like dandelion are some of the most nutritious foods you can eat. We harvest dandelions and lambs quarters often ( when the chickens have missed them). We have lots of nettles too but they are a bit difficult for me to consume. My herbalist is trying to get me to make friends with them but so far we don't understand one another.

The trick is figuring out what you can grow. I first started out with a Victory Garden mindset in my backyard. That was a crock. So many of my plans turned out disasterous. I had my brother ( master gardener in Seattle) down once and went over all my difficulties and goals. He had 2 words for me. Zone denial. So, I experimented to what I could grow well ( citrus, green beans, bell pepper, squashes, Armenian cucumbers, tomatoes, asparagus, carrots, onions, melons, various lettuce, kale, cucumber) and gave up everything else.

The learning curve, depending on your environment can be steep. I can't imagine doing this when pressed. I truly would have faced starvation.

Miffed

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:51 | 5811291 Bollixed
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I don't know this for a fact, but last year the farmer in back of me must have planeted dandelions as a fertilizer crop. We share about 700' of fence line and his whole field was windrowed with dandelions. Just like he had grown them from the looks of it. Needless to say I ended up with a few hundred thousand of them, myself.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 02:20 | 5811308 El Vaquero
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Uggh, you would have sworn that I had planted mallow (malva neglecta) last year by the looks of the yard.  I hate that stuff.  It is edible, but I'm not a fan.  It is a bitch to pull all of the roots in my soil, and it will come back from the roots.  It also goes from flower to seed in a hurry.  It survives the winter.  Hell, it stays green most winters.  It really likes my soil, climate, etc... and it doesn't need much water.  I hate the stuff and want to nuke it from orbit.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 02:17 | 5811306 El Vaquero
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If I can't get it to go to seed, I'm probably not going to grow it.  That doesn't mean that a first try that fails with something gets it nixed, but I had better be able to point to a mistake that I made if I'm going to put a lot of effort into a second try.  BTW, I got garlic to go to true seed last year.  Not bulbils, not seed cloves, but true seed.  It's a real PITA, though it supposedly gets much, much easier in subsequent generations.  I also had three heat resistant kohlrabis pop up out of the many that I planted last spring.  The rest didn't produce the nice big bulbs, and looked like they were getting ready to bolt.  So they got ripped out.  Any of the surviving three that can go to seed after being left out all winter will make up the lion's share of the genetic base in the future.  I'll add enough new genes in there to keep inbreeding depression at bay, but having a hot weather kohlrabi will be nice.  During the next week or two, I'll be on a potato hunt looking for uncommon cultivars that might go to true seed.  I'm on a constant lookout for uncommon turnips that might like my climate.  My corn has been brutalized the past two years, so this year it ought to be pretty tough.  I've had lettuce and spinach growing all winter too, though it has been a fairly mild winter.  It should keep producing on into June or thereabouts before it starts to bolt.  It should be real interesting to see what kind of summer squash I get this year.  I put zero effort into controlling what crossed with what.  Last year I grew some that were a cross between a white scalloped squash and some yellow squash.  Some were giant white balls of squash and others looked like white 2 liter coke bottles.  I had a zucchini-yellow cross, but it was a poor producer.  What it did produce was excellent though it wasn't worth the space.  I think I got three or four edible squashes from 2 bushes. 

 

Try saving your own seeds.  That is the ultimate test of a species or even a specific cultivar.  If you devote a small amount of space to experimentation, you may find a specific cultivar that works for you, even when the particular species is something that a master gardener says won't work where you are.  Not to sound like Lysenko and Lemark.  but  I'm sure that I don't need to tell you that some genes can be flipped on or off in an organism depending on environmental factors, and that because of this, a second generation in a specific area might just do a little bit better than the first. 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 10:43 | 5811744 Unix
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Miffed, look up the "Three sisters"...it is an old and brilliant way to grow nutrition! It may be bland, but it will keep a family alive!

heck, here is one link:

http://www.reneesgarden.com/articles/3sisters.html

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 11:26 | 5811830 overmedicatedun...
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unix i would drop corn and add potato..corn flakes are good tho.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 11:56 | 5811888 El Vaquero
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Actually, the combination of corn, beans and squash gives a fairly complete source of nutrition.  You can survive off of it for quite a long time, especially if you nixtamalize the corn.  It is good to have the three sisters if your supplies of meat are what you can grow or hunt. 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:11 | 5812109 Husk-Erzulie
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Not to mention that in the three sisters system the beans are meant to be pole beans which climb the corn stalks as they grow together.  The squash covers the base with dense foliage and moderates uv and drying effects and short periods of drought.  Potatoes are great food, as are beats and onions, and carrots, they are just not a part of a three sisters system. 

Find farms and individuals in your area who have access to naturalized native/heirloom seed.  Use that as a starting point to create your own strain of seed localized to your particular micro climate combination of soil, elevation, weather, solar gain etc.  SAveSeed, Save Seed, Save Seed.  It could take a lifetime (Faith!) or you could be a super intuitive like Luther Burbank and get ground breaking results very quickly (we could use some Burbanks in this generation for sure).  Great Reads By The Way.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:39 | 5812210 El Vaquero
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Three sisters also has the added benefit of squash bugs not finding your squash as readily.  I learned that last summer when I tried it for the first time.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 14:34 | 5812398 Husk-Erzulie
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Let's not forget also that beans are nitrogen fixers (take nitrogen from atmosphere and make it bio available in the soil), while corn is a heavy feeder which, on its own, will deplete the soil.

:-)

BTW penguin, where are you growin?  Will you be trying this again this season?

If you are a Northeaster these guys: http://www.groundswellseedfarm.com

...are very nice to deal with and have great product (though no pole beans this year).

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 15:10 | 5812536 Unix
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Thanks for the nixtamalize info, el vaquero...right handy!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 16:48 | 5812863 Unix
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No thanks, over, I will go with the ancients on this one...

I'll pant my potato somewhere else...

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 06:18 | 5811489 freedogger
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That's the kind of answer any smart stacker should give.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 09:56 | 5811671 g speed
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renfield--"the threat is now----any one who will not bow down ---to the psychos running the gov't"  Do not try to look a cop in the eye--he( in the company of brothers) will beat the shit out of you--I don't think you understand -- cops and gov't people in general hate you civilians---I mean really hate you--they want you hung on a cross-- They want you to die, but suffer first. This is true of all countries not just America. It's a religious thing that has to due with power and divine right. ---just saying--what used to be a negro/KKK thing or a Irish/Italian thing is now a civilian/gov't thing---

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 11:01 | 5811782 Mepaulus
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Obama explains the FEMA Camps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkSkQgnEV-Q

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:23 | 5810954 i_call_you_my_base
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The irony is that the DHS and a lot of these stupid laws were created under a "conservative" president.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:26 | 5810965 Unix
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written by leftist congress, signed by a compassionate conservative, re-signed by a communist NDAA, Patriot Act...point being they are all in on this control thingy!

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:25 | 5810959 SmackDaddy
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no more hesitation  http://www.guns.com/2013/04/26/shocking-dhs-no-hesitation-shooting-targe...

dhs can keep their hollow points.  ill be shooting the fuckers through the vest with some high velocity fmj 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:03 | 5811114 Billy the Poet
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Did the Ohio cop who shot the twelve year old in two seconds flat train on those targets? He certainly didn't hesitate.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 03:08 | 5811357 OldPhart
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I'm thinking that frangibles would be pretty devastating on a vest.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 09:56 | 5811672 Cloud9.5
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Lot of white folks.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:25 | 5810961 Renfield
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Cross-posting this reply from a previous thread, where someone posted the original CNN link and I had the misfortune to read the entire thing. These were my impressions:

Wholly shit, that's appalling. Having given up on "hearts and minds", they're now going for full-on domestic government terrorism. They've lost, they know they've lost, and so they're proceeding to the civil war/scorched earth phase of their criminal reign of terror.

From your link:

<<They're carrying out sporadic terror attacks on police, have threatened attacks on government buildings and reject government authority.A new intelligence assessment, circulated by the Department of Homeland Security this month and reviewed by CNN, focuses on the domestic terror threat from right-wing sovereign citizen extremists and comes as the Obama administration holds a White House conference to focus efforts to fight violent extremism.>>

I wonder if our MSM-watching families and friends will even notice that these 'extremist' reports are about us: their wives and husbands, mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers?

<<Some federal and local law enforcement groups view the domestic terror threat from sovereign citizen groups as equal to -- and in some cases greater than -- the threat from foreign Islamic terror groups, such as ISIS, that garner more public attention.?>>

This MIC economy can't run without an enemy and since the war propaganda isn't working, I guess they have to resort to making enemies of citizens now. Thank God we still have heaps of illegal aliens to carry on peaceful trade and commerce with, and form the roots of our communities. Our cartel-captured government is looking to terrify its citizens into submission, since the internet is dismantling its global propaganda empire. Since they can't rule the world, they're turning their focus to ensuring they won't be unseated here at home.

<<The Homeland Security report, produced in coordination with the FBI, counts 24 violent sovereign citizen-related attacks across the U.S. since 2010.>>

I have no words. No point even wondering what comparative figures would be for domestic government violence or violence by illegal aliens, I guess.

<<The government says these are extremists who believe that they can ignore laws and that their individual rights are under attack in routine daily instances such as a traffic stop or being required to obey a court order. They've lashed out against authority in incidents such as one in 2012, in which a father and son were accused of engaging in a shootout with police in Louisiana, in a confrontation that began with an officer pulling them over for a traffic violation. Two officers were killed and several others wounded in the confrontation. The men were sovereign citizen extremists who claimed police had no authority over them.>>

Sovereign citizen = extremist. Look at all the key words in this piece of propaganda: "routine daily instances", "lashed out against authority", "sovereign citizen extremists". God damn, we need to get RID of the Fed, and that right soon. Look at the governmental terrorism and propaganda that their printed Rothschild money is now funding. (The funds for this top-drawer reporting certainly aren't coming from viewer numbers or subscription fees, nor is it being paid from taxes.)

Frankly, after several well-publicised reports of murders and looting by police throughout the last two years, I'm wondering if these 'routine, daily' stops represent in and of themselves a threat to my life and property. All it takes is one trigger-happy cop having a bad day with a gun. As far as I know, it's only in fascist countries that being stopped for checks by government agents is considered 'routine' or 'daily'.

<<Among the findings from the Homeland Security intelligence assessment: "(Sovereign citizen) violence during 2015 will occur most frequently during routine law enforcement encounters at a suspect's home, during enforcement stops and at government offices.">>

Sovereign citizens beware. The government is putting you on notice that they're moving you up to the status of enemy combatant.

<<The report adds that "law enforcement officers will remain the primary target of (sovereign citizen) violence over the next year due to their role in physically enforcing laws and regulations.">>

Cops, it's time to decide between your loyalty to the state, and your loyalty to your family, friends, neighbours, and communities. Who do you work for, serve, and protect? Citizens, be careful driving, or travelling on any road. Whether you're in the US or one of its central-bank puppet states, your country is ruled by the Rothschilds, they're not your friends, and they're feeling very threatened by you these days.

I don't usually click on MSM links, since they tend to make me feel like I need a shower afterward. This one was no different, but thanks for the important heads-up on how much this evil government hates us for our freedom.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:32 | 5810996 A Lunatic
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If you have nothing to hide (and trust me we will check) you will not be terrorized (as much )..... -Eric, god with a little g, Holder-

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:28 | 5810977 Fun Facts
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They have divided and conquered us into believing that 300 million americans can be divided into one of two labels.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:09 | 5811126 Billy the Poet
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And it isn't "boy, girl, boy girl." Those labels have been stripped of meaning and their proper use is considered to be downright hateful.

I don't care how folks live their lives, mind you, but there's an agenda bigger than the GLBT agenda which wants Americans to lose all sense of normalcy and decency.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:03 | 5811208 Renfield
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When America was productive and more labour meant more wealth, the workers became educated and enriched, so that they would become more productive. America probably had the best educated, wealthiest, and most literate working class in history, around mid-20th century.

Now that its productivity is consumed, the best America can offer is a huge crowd of human slaves. And as we all know, educatin' the slaves just make 'em uppity.

The best population to draw slaves from, is ignorant, illiterate, innumerate and WITHOUT a strong sense of culture, roots, or identity.

Someone who is not quite sure whether they are a girl or a boy, and might be either, both, or neither - is probably not gonna have a lot of intellectual capital left over for getting bored with their treadmill life. So if they quibble amongst themselves about these things, hey, we all need a hobby and bless 'em for having fun as they best know how. The best slave is a happy slave!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:06 | 5811238 Billy the Poet
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TPTB destabilize nations and regions in order to be able to exercise control. The plan for the homeland is similar. They want folks to think that their daughters should be required to shower with girls with penises and they want people to believe that we're knee deep in a second straight year of dangerously cold temperatures because the Earth is just too hot. Add terrorists who own copies of the Constitution to the list.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:29 | 5810983 Stormtrooper
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Damn, that means that everyone in Ohio between the ages of 17 and 67 are terrorists in the eyes of Obama because Article 9 of our sovereign state Constitution states that everyone in the aforementioned age bracket are members of the "militia".

It would appear that it is time for 38 states to call an Article V Constitutional Convention and ratify the 28th Amendment to the Constitution stating that " The Federal Republic originally created by this document is hereby dissolved and all powers of governance are returned to the 50 sovereign state governements".

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:34 | 5811003 A Lunatic
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We do not need a ConCon for that. Simply withdraw consent......

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:40 | 5811024 Unix
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de facto secession!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:08 | 5811124 Arnold
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Texas seems to be showing leadership in that direction.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 02:21 | 5811311 Blano
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Can you give an example?

I live here, and frankly, I don't see it.  Kind of a disappointment.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:47 | 5811147 WarPony
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Chapter 5923 O.R.C.  Not to mention the prior Ohio laws Regulating and Disciplining the Militia which were NOT overridden by statute (creating the National Guard and State Defence Forces, etc.).  Throw in the USA Constitution, and you're covered - Lawfully.

Your right to self defense is NOT a privilege granted by the government, it's a RIGHT granted by reality.

The deep State has been attempting to demonize State's rights for decades because they want you disarmed and so much more maluable.  Sheriff Richard Mack helped beat them in the Supreme Court by referencing unfunded mandates (background checks & a case against EPA).

Had the Columbiana County, Ohio Militia not shut down the Blood Games in Montana during the Freeman standoff, the Waco-style Blood Games were sure to get worse.  They even went so far as to attempt to stage another in Fort Davis, Texas, including their own Johnny-on-the-spot lawyer.  When the fed, "White Eagle" called Vos in Ohio from the standoff and invited Columbiana County to the party, Vos said that we'd already been there and if it started in Ft. Davis, it would kick off Country-wide.  Bundy ranch was another such trial balloon that folded.  Which is why POTUS wants an executive order to now ban armor-piercing .223, etc., etc., - they're AFRAID.

But why would they be afraid - besides the fact that they are outnumbered and face militia within the military - unless they plan to crash the system?  Even worse/(better?), when the EBT cards fail, they get their chaos. When social security checks bounce, they get their revolutionary war.  In the meantime, apathetic Americans won't budge until the TV remote stops working or the beer supply runs out.

Pathetic reality, but that's where we are.  I'm waiting to see the new Founding Fathers grab the ring. But "they" (the feds) need decades more to dumb-down folks and also legislate/EO our rights away before they stand a chance of not getting their ass-whooping, which they so assuredly deserve ... Dieebold vote-counters (!), give us a break - how stupid do they really think we are?

And, rock on Zero Hedge & ZH'ers!

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:30 | 5810990 Son of Captain Nemo
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But of course desperatew times call for desperate measures.

"Night of the long knives II"... Time to sacrifice the "brown shirts" just like ithe Kiev snipers in 2014 to make the propaganda campaign resonate with the sheep!!!

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:32 | 5810999 Cabreado
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With a defunct Congress comes a vacuum, filled by "agencies."

So then, while there is still time (govt structure remains), attention must be on the enabling/controlling body, rather than on the byproducts of neglect of same.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:39 | 5811020 Yen Cross
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Congress is AWAL. That Orange Toad needs to be retired! Dinghy Harry needs to be retired back to Nevada.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:54 | 5811082 lasvegaspersona
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NV is too dangerous for Reid, over the holidays he attempted suicide by gym machine. Keep him in his DC hotel room til he rots please.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:02 | 5811110 Yen Cross
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Dinghy Harry is done! He can live in "Search Light" Nevada, and break bad with his clan!

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:39 | 5811017 drdolittle
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See something say something!

Make us scared of right wing terrorists so we can gladly give up any remaining rights we have.

Wasn't it some brown dude who assasinated those NYC cops?

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:39 | 5811018 Chupacabra-322
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“Well, I think there’s a lot of skepticism about the role of the United States in dealing with ISIS, because the support they initially provided for ISIS in Syria strengthened this group at that time, and then also other reasons to believe this is not a genuine group, it somehow instigated or created by, I don’t know, a certain intelligence agency,” Ebtekar said when asked about IS during an interview conducted by ABC News.

Bingo! Johnny, tell her what she's won. She's won an all expense paid trip of Criminal manufactured UNITED STATES, CORP. INC. / CIA / State Dept. arms, training & funding of Pure Evil Psychopthic Al CIA duh Terror Organizations via NATO, Saudi Aribia, Turkey, Syria, Lybia, Yemen & Iraq.

She's also won Torture, terror, drone strikes, murder, rape & pillage. Along with decades long Destabiliaztion campaigns & stealing of Soverign Nations Resouces.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:41 | 5811029 VWAndy
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I remember all them progressives goin nuts over shrub. Now they are even more nuts than the ones they hated so much. My how the worm turns. It is funny these days to ask them what was it they hated about the last guy.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:34 | 5811184 Billy the Poet
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And all the conservatives who loved Bush's warmongering and destruction of civil liberties but don't seem to care for those same policies when they are enforced by a Kenyan. Yeah, that's the problem with Obama -- he's Kenyan.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 02:24 | 5811315 Blano
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Not to defend Bush, but when he was Prez the Pathetic Left kept saying it was patriotic to protest the government. 

Now that they're in charge, you're a terrorist if you do so.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 02:36 | 5811328 Billy the Poet
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It's the same as Bush -- you're with "us" or with the terrorists. Only thing is who do they mean by "us?"

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:42 | 5811034 Rootin' for Putin
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Whats this crap?   Now right wing neo nazis are bad?   Why the fuck are we giving them guns and humvees and shit in Ukraine then?

I just cant keep track of it all thesedays.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:43 | 5811040 will ling
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ah. visions of madame lafarge sugar plums be a dancin' in me head.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:16 | 5811142 Renfield
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Mme Lagarde... meet Mme Defarge. I think you two will have LOTS to talk about.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:59 | 5812068 venturen
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can we assume all weapons will be confiscated shortly and Obama named president for life?

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:46 | 5811050 kgw
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Divide and conquer seems to work quite well among those who jump to conclusions...

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:48 | 5811058 Reaper
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The bogeymen all have copies of the Constitution.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:10 | 5811128 Arnold
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nice

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:49 | 5811061 Heavy
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"Terrorism" is undergoing extensive semantic generalization.  :)

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:50 | 5811066 battlestargalactica
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Kilo India Sierra Sierra
Mike Yankee
Alpha Sierra Sierra

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:12 | 5811131 Arnold
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Tango

Uniform

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:51 | 5811072 gregga777
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The US government are the ultimate terrorists.

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:53 | 5811076 wendigo
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I guess you could call me a right wing extremist. Or an anarchist. Or classic liberal. Or Libertarian. 

Truth is, labels don't matter. They're only used to try and seperate people into different classes and then pit them against each other. By using labels we give in to that paradigm. 

Personally I say fuck em. I stand on the side of liberty, including the liberty to end your own life if you see fit. I won't be pushed into labeling myself. I am what I am. My political views are my own. I resist classification and defy pigeon holes. 

These fuckheads have been plundering the wealth of the world for 100 years. For 100 years they have sent our sons and brothers to be chopped into mincemeat on some foriegn shore, suffering, dying, and never knowing why. For 100 years they have placed the people in a vise, slowly tightening the screws until we scream for want of room. 

They know no satisfaction. They will take and take and take until everything on this earth is theirs. Then they will spread amongst the stars, conquering the alien worlds one by one, until everything touched by the light has been corrupted. Then they will turn to the endless dark itself, space almost as black as their hearts. 

That is the future we face. A future where monstrous creatures wearing mens bodies have dominion over all that ever was, all that ever could be. Until the human race is mutilated and winnowed until it can do nothing but eat sleep and suffer. And even then they will not be satisfied, their hunger will still rage, and eventually they must eat each other. 

Fuck me. I have no idea what I'm talking about. All I know is that I'm trapped in a mental hospital and they won't give me my sleep med. 

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:55 | 5811086 Unix
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Some things need to be said twice!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:36 | 5811186 Billy the Poet
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Some things need to be said twice!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:58 | 5811223 Unix
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...

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:19 | 5811256 Skateboarder
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...

(someone had to do it)

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:24 | 5811265 bid the soldier...
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oh

labels don't matter

When you're blindfolded in front of the firing squad


Sat, 02/21/2015 - 02:00 | 5811300 Manipuflation
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That is a good post Wendigo.  I haven't seen you around much before but you sound like the kind of guy I could sit down and have a beer with.  By the terms you use, I can see that you enjoy reading your history.  I appreciate that fact.  Peace. 

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:53 | 5811078 wendigo
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I guess you could call me a right wing extremist. Or an anarchist. Or classic liberal. Or Libertarian. 

Truth is, labels don't matter. They're only used to try and seperate people into different classes and then pit them against each other. By using labels we give in to that paradigm. 

Personally I say fuck em. I stand on the side of liberty, including the liberty to end your own life if you see fit. I won't be pushed into labeling myself. I am what I am. My political views are my own. I resist classification and defy pigeon holes. 

These fuckheads have been plundering the wealth of the world for 100 years. For 100 years they have sent our sons and brothers to be chopped into mincemeat on some foriegn shore, suffering, dying, and never knowing why. For 100 years they have placed the people in a vise, slowly tightening the screws until we scream for want of room. 

They know no satisfaction. They will take and take and take until everything on this earth is theirs. Then they will spread amongst the stars, conquering the alien worlds one by one, until everything touched by the light has been corrupted. Then they will turn to the endless dark itself, space almost as black as their hearts. 

That is the future we face. A future where monstrous creatures wearing mens bodies have dominion over all that ever was, all that ever could be. Until the human race is mutilated and winnowed until it can do nothing but eat sleep and suffer. And even then they will not be satisfied, their hunger will still rage, and eventually they must eat each other. 

Fuck me. I have no idea what I'm talking about. All I know is that I'm trapped in a mental hospital and they won't give me my sleep med. 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:17 | 5811139 Arthur Schopenhauer
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Everybody read what you wrote and may have identified with it completely,to a certain extent, or not at all. I can tell you one thing. I just traveled 700 miles to my grandmother's 100 year birthday party. 100 years old. Wow. While our whole family was sitting in the living room, I asked the question... "Grandma, since you have lived this long, you must have some words of wisdom to impart to us. What would those words be?"

She replied without thinking not... even one second: She said --- "I've spent my entire life trying to figure everything out, and I learned when reaching about the age of 80 that I would never figure it out, and there is no sense worrying about it.  That's why I'm a hundred years old now."

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:57 | 5811093 Arthur Schopenhauer
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I'm fed up with hearing about this crap. All these muthafuckas do is stand around and bitch about shit.  I say if they have any balls they should make a stand and do what they keep threatening to do or quit their bitching. I'm not going to pay any attention to their stupid asses because thats all they ever do is bitch about shit and they won't ever actually do anything about it. They are just a bunch of common ordinary rednecks with big mouths.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:41 | 5811153 forwardho
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Arthur, Your post is not clear.
Are you referring to to domestic terrorists, or DHS?
It would seem to apply to both.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:23 | 5811161 Unix
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Is that so Arther, did your mommy slap you much? Cause your daddy wasn't around? you sound butthurt? get over yourself

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:21 | 5811259 pupdog1
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He ate too many paint chips as a child.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:22 | 5811262 Sweet Cheeks
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Arthur,
There is no such thing as a common ordinary redneck. There are ones that will watch your back and there are the ones that will shoot your back.  And the majority are plenty sharp so watch your mouth until you figure out which is which.  Hint: It is the ones that don't complain that you have to worry about.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 02:30 | 5811323 OldPhart
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In the early 80's I arrived in the Florida Panhandle.  I arrived as a California Commie.  I left twelve years later as a Southern Redneck.  Oddly, now living in the SOUTHERN California desert...still a Redneck thirty years later.

(Yes, had the '48 truck on a couple of cinder blocks for a few years.  Now Son has in his yard.)

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 11:45 | 5811865 Government need...
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Look, a Fedcoat.  Our country will move closer to open, unlimited conflict with every incremental .gov petty tyranny.  You might end up waiting in line to swing, swing. 

Fri, 02/20/2015 - 23:59 | 5811099 Yen Cross
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This hasn’t stopped DHS from trying to develop its own security capacity. It just means that whatever DHS does is already being done elsewhere in the government. And that duplication and fragmentation has made the national-security apparatus even harder to manage.

 Manage what?

 
    And as a recent White House report pointed out, having three different departments giving resources to local police has made it harder to track how those resources get used. If the Department of Justice, for example, finds out that a police department has been misusing funds or violating the constitution, it can cut off DOJ grant money — but the police department can turn around and apply for help from the Department of Defense and DHS.
 No comment/

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:51 | 5811176 Renfield
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Oh, look, it's the DHS. Now, why does that ring a bell - could it have anything to do with this press release, stating that Pres. Barky is transferring "private sector cyber-sharing information" to DHS from NSA?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2015/02/12/fact-sheet-executi...

Sounds like no big deal, right? Except - well, apparently unlike the NSA, the DHS has authority to "act on" its "information" right away. (Hmm, must watch RoboCop again tonight.) Found an article discussing this rather alarming development of the War On Terror:

http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/02/dhs-positioning-secretly-arrest-americ...

From the link:

<<When the NSA gathers information on Dave Hodges, the information may be shared with the Fusion Threat Centers and various domestic law enforcement agencies. However, the NSA's intelligence is not immediately actionable. For NSA intelligence to be acted upon, a second generation set of agencies have to be involved. This is cumbersome and slow. Who has the ability to oversee intelligence gathering and simultaneously act upon the intelligence? It is none other than the Department of Homeland Security. It is also the DHS that has, in the past two years, acquired 2.2 billion rounds of ammunition as well as 2700 armored personnel carriers, not the NSA. It is clear that DHS is the army of the central bankers who have hijacked our government and they are preparing to remove dissidents. Keep in mind that this coming war is a war to preserve the Petrodollar and it will be waged at all costs. All opposition will be eliminated.>>

Any legal experts out there able to dis/confirm?

This guy, David Hodges, has lots to say about the DHS, none of it good. Here's another article of his, talking about special training that the DHS receives:

http://www.theburningplatform.com/2014/03/28/will-you-fire-on-american-c...

From the link:

<<An examination of the “phony” terrorist group identified in the drill raises red flags. Free Americans Against Socialist Tyranny implies that anyone who opposes socialism, especially socialist tyranny is a national security threat to the state. The choice of language is obvious for all of those who are familiar with the Marxist socialist ideologies of the Obama administration. DHS is not only concerned with domestic terrorists in this drill, but they are primarily concerned with those personnel in government who might be sympathetic to the cause of Free Americans Against Socialist Tyranny. The document specifically mentions National Guard, current and former members of the military, employees within US Northern Command and the Defense Information Systems Agency members who might be complicit and/or sympathetic with the aforementioned domestic terror group (p.125). This is an immediate tipoff with regard to the intent of this drill... WILL YOU FIRE ON AMERICAN CITIZENS? The above question is quickly becoming the new litmus test for military officers to retain their rank. My military sources have been telling me that one of the primary reasons that we have seen a wholesale leadership change in the military, with over 260 senior command officers fired under Obama, is because many in our military will not indiscriminately fire upon innocent American citizens who refuse to submit to gun confiscation. This fact is verified by former Navy Seal Benjamin Smith as he has clearly stated that the Obama administration has a new “litmus test” for officers in the U.S. military,which asks officers if they’ll command their troops to confiscate firearms from Americans.>>

These are a lot of claims. I'd be interested to hear how true others here think they are. I'm not American, so not sure if "protect and serve" goes beyond the cops, but this sounds like the DHS is protecting and serving SOMEBODY. Someone who is threatened by a large number of Americans right now.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:01 | 5811106 MedTechEntrepreneur
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I smell a Red Flag event by "Sovereign Citizens" (kinda has that ISIS brand quality to it eh?) against some government building blah blah blah and that will be "casus belli" for DHS to be unleashed against anyone who advocates for Gov rule of law, roll back of the unaccountable beaurocracy and fiscal sanity.

Come on Feds...you are so predictable anymore....

PS...  FU GWB for creating this DHS monster to begin with... 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:11 | 5811130 Yen Cross
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 How's DHS desk treating you?  People are FED>UP.

 You're disinformation just causes more problems.

 MedTechEntrepreneur> CIA rookie

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 15:07 | 5812525 MedTechEntrepreneur
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Yen Cross: " MedTechEntrepreneur> CIA rookie"

How in the flying hell did you come to that conclusion from my post?
What a dumbass... 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:41 | 5811198 Billy the Poet
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Sovereign citizen is a contradiction in terms. God created sovereign individuals.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:10 | 5811129 Mongrel
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The USA regime has hated us for 21 years! www.leagueofthesouth.com

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:15 | 5811141 22winmag
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These pussies would not last 2 weeks against a highly motivated and very pissed off American insurgency.

 

For entertainment's sake, watch the movie Red State. Sure, it's a product of Hollywood and it's about the BATF going toe to toe with far right Christian militant nutbags aka "domestic terrorists". Sure, it's highly entertaining. The important thing to take away from the movie is the heavy, unsustainable losses taken by the "good guys" wearing black. In a real nationwide SHTF event, the "good guys from the BATF, DHS, FEMA, etc. etc would be stacking the dead bodies of their traitorous comrades like cordwood. 

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:27 | 5811168 p00k1e
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It’s much, much more than insurgencies. 

Watch the movie, ‘The Core’.   

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:19 | 5811255 Elliott Eldrich
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How about we consider some non-violent ways that can help to bring about change, like not participating in the economy any more than absolutely necessary, not buying junk you don't need etc. How about we create alternative media to express our concerns, build consensus, and perhaps even start thinking about what we would like to see in place of the current regime? Consider the fact that the average person now has, between their cell phone, their home computer, and their internet connection, the equivalent of a television production company and broadcasting studio; who needs violence when we have tools like that available to us?

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 09:57 | 5811673 22winmag
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Freedom of speech, just watch what you say! - Ice T.

 

While I agree with your sentiments, speaking up too loudly and too freely has been proven to cause fatal plane crashes, car crashes, bullets to the head, etc.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 11:38 | 5811851 Government need...
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You express a noble, gentle solution.  However, .gov no longer respects such efforts.  You can tell what a group respects by what they value, what they do, and what they buy.  For this .gov, it's guns, guns, guns, bomb, bomb, bomb, cheat, cheat, cheat, and lie, lie, lie.  While I truly hope I am proven incorrect, I believe the only path to a better future involves taking power away from those who use it for corrupt purposes.  This is not likely achieved thru your gentle, noble means.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:17 | 5811146 thinkmoretalkless
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I didn't know DHS went on panty raids! Where do I sign up. What a bunch of frat boys. This country's culture is one of individual independence they have been trying to establish a culture of dependency and victim hood for over fifty years. Multiculturism, illegal immigration, political correctness, fiat based currency, the new world order.,all designed to destroy the individual. They are desperate to secure the monopoly on force by disarming the American people through gun control. It is a matter of time before the crisis they don't want to let go to waste occurs...then it is a question of whether their prep was enough. We all have our ace in the hole, whether we go out on our feet or on our knees.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:25 | 5811166 p00k1e
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Only Terrorists live outside of the secure FEMA camp. 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:29 | 5811173 atomicwasted
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"Sovereign citizens" aren't conservatives or libertarians or right-wingers.  They are gullible and they are idiots.  They tend to espouse some vague populist bullshit agenda and yes, they tend to be violent.  Don't panic yet, people.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:45 | 5811206 Billy the Poet
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As I mentioned above, sovereign citizen is a contradiction in terms. God created sovereign individuals. Besides, what possible difference does it make whether the flag has a gold fringe or not?  TPTB would still be ripping folks off.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 03:42 | 5811376 _Doomsayer
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I'm a sovereign man, I do not live my life by the government's leave. And when the system confronts me with it's bullshit, I react accordingly. I'm proud that freethinking people who understand the struggle have a reputation for violence. TPBT sure as hell don't give two shits about your reputation for trolling internet forums talking shit like cowards.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:48 | 5811211 TrustbutVerify
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And wasn't it left wing government brown shirt bureaucrats that make up the IRS that acted against conservative groups?  Shall we list a few hundred other examples? 

And what percentage of Washington, DC voted Democratic?  

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 00:50 | 5811217 kchrisc
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It is my right, is my duty to be a terrorist:

...But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

The banksters need to repay us.

 

Liberty is Life without tyranny. 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 10:30 | 5811712 Bemused Observer
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I've always thought they should have run with that theme a little more...sure, they mention the possibility..."if the people don't like it they can change it, blah, blah, blah..."

We needed a few more paragraphs there...maybe something along the lines of, "the people may throw off their oppressors by voting, or if that fails or is made impossible by the despots, may take up arms and unite to expel them from power, JUST LIKE WE JUST DID WITH OURS!"

Maybe a passing reference to the fact that violent overthrow of a repressive regime shall remain a LEGAL option for people who have exhausted all other means.

A brief notation to the effect that it is NOT up to the government to decide if it is a "repressive regime" or not, that this is a right reserved for the GOVERNED and shall be done at THEIR discretion, that would have been nice.

And I would have liked to see something along the lines of "When such governments are challenged by the people who have organized to make such challenge, it is the obligation of the government to publicly acknowledge and address their concerns. At no time are they to be permitted to 'label' such groups as dissidents in order to dismiss them, demonize them, or to make them a target for law enforcement."

In fact, a big mistake was made by NOT running with this theme a bit longer...considering what had just happened, you'd think they would have wanted to clearly establish beyond all doubt their right, and the right of future Americans, to take up arms against an oppressive regime should that become necessary.

In fact, considering that these guys had just finished doing exactly that, it should have been an entire section in itself, not just something mentioned in passing as a possibility. They drafted a Bill of Rights for citizens...they should have also drafted a bill of the Rights of Those Who Dissent.

And the whole notion of majority rule needed expounding on too. Yes, we elect our leaders, and the one with the most votes wins. But a simple numerical majority should NOT mean that such officials are above being questioned, and if there is considerable opposition those officials MUST address that opposition, and are NOT to be considered to hold their office by the will of the people until they have done so. The majority vote does get the seat, but not necessarily a mandate...and keep in mind that dictatorship by the majority is no better than dictatorship by the few, they are both dictatorships and have no place in a truly free society, and that majority needs to be reminded of this on occasion. (The vaccination issue comes to mind here, where those who are for them would use their numerical advantage to impose their will on the smaller, yet considerable number who are opposed, regardless of how they feel about it...and of course it's ALWAYS "for the greater good", so spare me any of the "What about the CHILDREN!?" arguments, please.)
So, no Tea Party stooges 'shouting down' the lefty/commie/socialists, and no Progressive holier-than-thou's cutting off or dismissing as backwards and ignorant the 'guns and Bibles' conservatives, even if this is the so-called majority opinion in their districts. They must ALL face the challenges and answer them, because any such challenges means you do NOT govern with the consent of the governed, but merely by statistical advantage.
So, get your statistical advantage with votes, but if there are still groups that oppose you, you MUST deal with them and their concerns before you can consider yourself a legitimate representative of the people.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 18:09 | 5812837 MEAN BUSINESS
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I hear what you're saying but fact is it's there in the first amendment. Assembling peaceably is all well and good but I think there's a reason "petition for redress of grievances" was last on the "1st" list...

OWS petition wasn't the ridiculous .wh type...

If Obama had any balls he would have supported the National General Assembly in his 2012 SOTU address.

But remember, George ignored the colony's petitions too. Isn't that why petition is in the 1st?

too bad so sad

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:03 | 5811234 TrustbutVerify
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The author had my interest until he seemed to endorse 'Occupy Wall Streeters.' 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:10 | 5811248 Billy the Poet
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He only said that they were described as terrorists and implied that that wasn't the case.  Sounds reasonable. 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:28 | 5811268 Dre4dwolf
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Occupy started off good, then the money came in like Micheal moore and all those corrupt liberal socialist communist puppets took over the movement.

The movement started off mostly as a protest against the bailouts and other financial crimes and then the movement was co-opted by suedo govt-corporate media agencies and turned in on itself . . . it didn't help that there was no unified msg behind the occupy movement.... because everyone that showed up to that thing had an individual grievance or gripe with the current systems in place... 

 

There was no intelligent leader to the occupy movement, so the situation was ripe for govt and corporations to derail the movement with their own planted talking heads... who quickly steered the topics away from anything relevant.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 05:17 | 5811453 MEAN BUSINESS
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and the most relevant topic was? The National General Assembly. republicrats worst nightmare. 100% legal and organic. too bad so sad. There's only one other person, but I'd trust WB7 to tell the story. He knOws.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 09:00 | 5811604 surf0766
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Occupy was a formed movement from the hard left. There was nothing organica about it.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 09:25 | 5811628 Bemused Observer
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How's that koolaid taste?

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 09:55 | 5811664 The Wedge
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Have some grassroots koolaid. What flavor koolaid is that?

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 09:24 | 5811626 Bemused Observer
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They did the same thing to the Tea Party...infiltrated and turned it hard right instead of hard left like they did with Occupy.

It has always pissed me off that both sides went along so willingly, and ended up at each others throats...just as TPTB planned.

All designed to make each side look like nutters, and steer attention away from what brought them both out in the first place.

And everyone took the bait eagerly, because each side was encouraged to demonize those they had always disliked anyway. The "enemy" being presented to each was just too tempting, as there were simply too many on each side willing to believe "the rich", and the "Free Shit Army" were indeed the main cause of the problems.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 09:44 | 5811653 The Wedge
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Occupy was an establishment creation. It was never meant to be a real movement by established powers, just to be used for political gain. Evidence of this is how quickly they turned on them. It was in many ways, not all, an antithesis to the Tea Party movement even though there was plenty of common ground (bail outs). You are right about the message of Occupy. It was disjointed. MSM, mainly Fox, took advantage of this. They took advantage of the lawlessness of some "occupiers". But many in the movement should get there fair share of blame as there are countless examples. One is the creepy mic checks. It was an attempt to organize but came off as Jim Jones. Congressman Cummings of Georgia was invited to this mic check and the look on his face as he watched these people is priceless.

"There was no intelligent leader to the occupy movement...." Behind the scenes it was directed. And I might add a leader is not what the movement needed. Think strong man and how that has gone awry in history. Take the Tea Party. That was a real grassroots movement. Establishment types tried to co-opt it but failed. Evidenced by when they realized it couldn't be co-opted they turned. The reason it could not be co-opted is that it is completely De-centralized with no leader, just a simple straightforward message. The day it emerged literally MSNBC types were stomping it into the ground. Gerofalo called them all racist literally the day they emerged. And the Fox types were trying to co-opt it. But they did to the Tea Party exactly what this domestic terrorist group warning is intended to do which is silence dissent. Oh, you agree with Tea Party then you're a racist. It really is standard propaganda these days. Same thing MSM eventually did when they were done with Occupy. Oh, you are Occupy? Then you must be a criminal, degenerate. The sad reality is we could have achieved real political change had folks recognized the common ground between the 2 movements.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 10:23 | 5811699 Cloud9.5
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Had a great theme song.    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq3BYw4xjxE

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 17:17 | 5812987 MEAN BUSINESS
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Yeah, "killer tune", as we used to say in the music business. +1 Cloud9.5

"so take heed of our notice to redress..."

Makana played this during a dinner Obama et al were attending. They never realized!

Amazing playing!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:14 | 5811919 Shitgum Suicide
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There was no good intentions behind occupy Wall Street, you were just made to believe that. Look at who the democrats and the media rallied behind. That should tell you all you need to know.

That and it was funded outside the US via adbuster in Canada with the assistance of George soros. I think it's called astroturfing.

Barry's guy David axelrod coined the term as in how to use it.
http://www.bloomberg.com/bw/stories/2008-03-14/the-secret-side-of-david-...

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 18:06 | 5813184 MEAN BUSINESS
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The National General Assembly was very well intentioned, you were just made to never understand or hear about that. Cognitive infiltration at its finest.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 09:02 | 5811606 surf0766
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Occupy , the far left "organic" movement to eat the rich.  Did you see what they called rich.... anyone making over 150K...

until they make over 150k . Bunch of useless idtios

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:07 | 5811239 Denaliguide1
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  I would rather have questions that cannot be answered than have

ANSWERS THAT CANNOT BE QUESTIONED !

 

   Observe whom in your society cannot be criticized.  That tells  you what you need to know.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 07:33 | 5811530 seataka
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Brilliant !!

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:24 | 5811243 Dre4dwolf
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This is pretty much govt positioning itself to squelch dissent, same thing the Nazis did. . . put labels on people and make people afraid to speak their minds. . . because once the govt "brands" you with the scarlet mark it makes your life a regulatory living hell and society distances themselves from you . . . not because they disagree with you or your message, but because they don't want the heavy hand of govt oppressing them more than it already is.

 

This govt is about 8~12 years away from using force against its citizens to enforce its rule by FIAT. . . people dont wana hear that . . . I don't want to believe it . . .  but if you look at history, we are generally on that path (more or less) unless something seriously changes for the better.

 

We just need a return to the rule of law. . . and a system where the law is applied equally to all . . . 

What we have now is  . . . a bunch of defunct laws . . . that special interests are all exempt from  . . . because these laws are designed to enforce and prop up failing monopolies in all sectors of the economy (especially banking and insurance industries) these industries especially are completely fraudulent monopolies being propped up by govt through exemptions to laws that these companies passed to kill their competition and through backdoor bailouts and money counterfeiting . . . and "slap on the wrist" enforcement . . . for crimes that would normally result in life sentences for the common man.

The walls of despotism and feudalism have been slowly built around us and we all live in a cage. . . its only a matter of time before everyone notices, the only question is . . . will people standup and say something before its to late . . . or will they wait till the tide completely turns against us all.

 

If people like Martin Luther king were alive today they would be branded domestic terrorists. . . 

Yesterdays civil rights leaders are tomorrows terrorists. . . because government always needs a boogie man to scare the masses with and if you can't make people afraid of eachother(see something say something ring a bell? much like nazi informant system) . . . you can always make them afraid of what you might label them as publicly.

What does it tell you about your govt if your govt makes it illegal to hold it or any entities it deals with accountable to even simple questioning?

What does it tell you about your govt when they refuse to allow you to read laws before they are passed?

What does it tell you about your govt when they bailout banks with your tax dollars (effectively taking American tax dollars in order to foreclose on Americans . . .)

What does it tell you about your govt when they make it illegal not to have health insurance and then the cost of health insurance doubles for everyone overnight?

What does it tell you about your govt when they label you a domestic terrorist for simply stating facts.

 

The funny thing about the truth . . . it doesn't need defending... it usually defends itself . . . the above 5 questions I left un-answered, because you don't need me to tell you the answer.... that is how you measure truth, truth is not an opinion. . . it just is what it is.

The day you lose the ability to talk about what your govt does in your name because of fear of what that government will do to you/label you, is the day that you no longer have any representation in that govt.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 05:17 | 5811450 smacker
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And in the UK, the political elites (the Conservative Coalition gov would you believe) have even given a name to people who dare to speak out: "Non-Violent Extremists" (NVEs). New laws are being enacted against them because they are now classed as terrorists.

And only today, it has been revealed on RT.com that 80% of British universities have taken action to ban radical student debates, other student gatherings or from wearing unusual items of clothing. Essentially, free speech is being censored.

The noose is being tightened at a gathering pace.

Fascism is on the march. Jackboots will appear soon.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 01:32 | 5811273 gwar5
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Commie administration has already been targeting whites, just that now they are willing to do it openly because BHO needs to demonize some white people to deflect from Islamic Violent Radicals. 

 

 

 

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 02:12 | 5811305 Enough Already
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It is all starting to fall apart. 

 

TPTB are desperate.

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