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Peace? Ukraine "Preparing For Full-Scale War" With Russia, Demands The West Supply Lethal Weapons

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"We don't want to scare everybody, but we are preparing for full-scale war," warns Vadym Prystaiko - Ukraine's deputy foreign minister - telling CBC during a stunning interview that "what we expect from the world is that the world will stiffen up in the spine a little." Demanding that West provide 'lethal weapons' Prystaiko rages "everybody is afraid of fighting with a nuclear state. We are not anymore." Coming just a week after the Minsk Summit 'peace' deal and with Germany having warned they are likely unable to stop arms being supplied to Ukraine, Prystaiko concludes, "we would like [The West] to send lethal weapons to Ukraine... weapons to allow us to defend ourselves."

 

As CBC reports,

Ukraine's deputy foreign minister says he is preparing for "full-scale war" against Russia and wants Canada to help by supplying lethal weapons and the training to use them.

 

Vadym Prystaiko, who until last fall was Ukraine's ambassador to Canada, says the world must not be afraid of joining Ukraine in the fight against a nuclear power.

 

In an interview with CBC Radio's The House airing Saturday, Prystaiko says the ceasefire brokered by Germany and France was not holding.

 

"The biggest hub we ever had in the railroad is completely destroyed and devastated," he told host Evan Solomon about Debaltseve, captured by Russian-backed rebels after the terms were to have taken effect earlier this week.

 

"We see that they are not stopping," he says, suggesting the fight was now heading south to the port of Mariupol.

 

"It doesn't take a genius to see what they are trying to do.… They are taking more and more strategic points."

 

The former ambassador was in the room during the attempts to broker a political solution with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Minsk.

 

"Personally I don't trust him," he says. "You look at him and you think, 'Are you serious?'"

 

"Nobody knows what is going on in his head. I believe he is becoming very emotional [over the two countries' historic ties]," he suggests, calling Putin's intentions "difficult to predict."

 

Prystaiko echoes the view German Chancellor Angela Merkel is said to have expressed to U.S. President Barack Obama privately a year ago: "He is rational in his own way. He is in some parallel universe ... and he sees differently than everyone else."

 

'We have to do something'

 

"The stakes are really high," Prystaiko says, pointing out that Ukraine has now closed its border crossing with Russia. "We don't want to scare everybody, but we are preparing for full-scale war."

 

What to do in the face of such a threat? For starters, get over your fears, he says.

 

"What we expect from the world is that the world will stiffen up in the spine a little," he says. "Everybody is afraid of fighting with a nuclear state. We are not anymore, in Ukraine — we've lost so many people of ours, we've lost so much of our territory.

 

"However dangerous it sounds, we have to stop [Putin] somehow. For the sake of the Russian nation as well, not just for the Ukrainians and Europe."

 

Prystaiko says Ukrainians are blunt when it comes to what they need.

 

"We would like Canada to send lethal weapons to Ukraine," he said. "Weapons to allow us to defend ourselves."

 

Canada has been helping to train Ukrainian soldiers for the last decade, but it isn't enough, he says.

 

"It wasn't on the level that would help our army [against an] invasion."

 

Ukraine wants weapons, and training to use them, he said.

 

...

 

But he doesn't hold back from calling on Ukraine's Western allies to step up, echoing the frustration he expressed last November over Canada's willingness to intervene in Iraq but not send troops to help Ukraine.

 

"I was quite blunt... and probably it was premature at that point but now I have to ask again: If we see the same sort of rebels coming towards central Ukraine, towards other cities, how much is different from what we see in Iraq and the international help which was coming?"

 

"Unfortunately, we will probably pose a very serious question for the rest of the world: How can we react to this new challenge? We haven't had it for 50 years in Europe. Now it's back again."

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This coming just a week after the Minsk Summit deal and further to Putin's warnings that "if Kiev seeks a military solution, war will never end," it appears Ukraine has gone from bad to worse to worst possible scenario as proxy war tensions mount.

 

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Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:28 | 5812168 tarsubil
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It would be nice if Nuland and this ambassador were put on the front lines. Put Putin there too. See how things shake out. My guess is a peace agreement would be made in about 15 minutes. Sick how these people send young, and old now too, men to be slaughtered.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 15:13 | 5812540 new game
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worked with a guy who joined the guard. pure brainwash to train to be a warrior. if i was selling laced kool aid and he was in line and people in front of him dropped in their tracks i think he would step up for a sip. i mean i listened and watched. they gave him a manuel to prepare for fort bragg. the whole speeeeal, but nothing against the servicemen that fought for noble reasons, but really, this shit...

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 06:41 | 5814548 Charming Anarchist
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This shit is her secret cookie recipe.  Kool aid is passe.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 21:53 | 5813752 moratar
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Best defense is offense. I might guess they want to nuke moscow.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 21:53 | 5813753 moratar
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Best defense is offense. I might guess they want to nuke moscow.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 22:08 | 5813789 Bingo Hammer
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Can someone please explain the term "lethal weapon"?
I thought every fucking weapon was fucking LETHAL.
Shit, every tool in a hardware store is fucking lethal if you want it to be

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 06:43 | 5814552 Charming Anarchist
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It just sounds better. 

You need a double-word title to sell an action film.  Single-word titles are generally associated with alt and rep theater goers. 

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 07:43 | 5814604 HowdyDoody
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Its Marketing 101. The key to increasing sales is market segmentation. You have your old school 'weapons' for the traditionalist, then your 'lethal weapons' for the dedicated regime changer and the 'less lethal weapons' for those pesky serfs back home. Then there are the 'more or less lethal' weapons like the F35.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:06 | 5812088 Stoploss
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"what we expect from the world is that the world will stiffen up in the spine a little."

This may come as a SHOCK, but, the only leader with a spine on the planet, happens to be the one in which Ukraine seeks war with...

Brilliant...

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 16:45 | 5812853 Jacksons Ghost
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The battle of Debtslave!?  Oh the irony!

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 09:50 | 5814761 piratepiet
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dt

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:38 | 5812007 Ignatius
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Talk about carrying 'the big lie' out to its full potential.

Sheesh....insane.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:10 | 5812106 will ling
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methinks we'll get some of them; maybe lotsa. gotta find out where those bunkers are.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 16:43 | 5812847 serotonindumptruck
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Where do the elite who shelter in those bunkers obtain their oxygen/air from?

If the aboveground ambient air is radiologically contaminated, how long before the air below ground is contaminated?

Then again, maybe they have an infinite supply of activated charcoal filters and air scrubbers so they'll never have to worry about returning to the surface again.

Also, the locations of those underground facilities are likely well-known by Russia and China. Those sites will no doubt sustain many multiple megaton detonations over the course of a week or two.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 17:05 | 5812939 bbq on whitehou...
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The idea is that the shelters are temperary, after a few cities burn (not the important cities of course). They can have even more power and influence because now we are all survivors needing to band togather and rebuild under there wise direction of course.
War is never about loseing power its about gainning more. Even the defeated governments always rehire the old party members who caused the war in the fist place.
Why bother to read history when it just repeates and you get to see it for yourself.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 17:53 | 5813112 serotonindumptruck
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Every fighter must know his limitations, so I yield to your profound intellectual acumen.

/tapout

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 05:03 | 5814462 John Wilmot
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There's not going to be a nuclear exchange, unless by accident.

The US government is not insane (not in the sense of being suicidal anyway). The play, as I see it, is to marginally harass and contain Russia (and China) until the massively better funded American MIC finally produces a viable anti-ballistic missile system, at which point MAD will be finished, we'll be back to 1945 with the US as the only effective nuclear power, and the game will be over.

...Unless Lindsey Graham gets elected President, in which case we're all going to die.

:-)

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 10:31 | 5814839 GMadScientist
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I think the first 30 years of trying are probably an indicator that the better funded American MIC won't be making a viable anti-ICBM any time soon.

The odds we'll get viable fusion reactors before a working anti-missile system are about 50/50.

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 17:16 | 5815934 cheech_wizard
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>until the massively better funded American MIC finally produces a viable anti-ballistic missile system, at which point MAD will be finished

Which is going to stop a submarine launched nuclear-tipped cruise missile 5 minutes in-bound to NYC or Washington DC how exactly?

Which of the following is a true statement:

A) Russian subs in the Chesapeake.

B) American subs in Russian rivers.

C) Both of the above statements are true.

If you picked C, give yourself an iodine tablet.

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 01:49 | 5814248 Clashfan
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Some say they've already started a secret colony on Mars. Not saying I believe it, but one has to wonder what the freak they're thinking.

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 10:34 | 5814845 GMadScientist
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If they're smart: "water monopoly".

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 21:59 | 5816854 Al Tinfoil
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I wonder how long it would be before the psychopaths in their bunkers would start to kill and eat each other.  Any sane person stuck in a bunker with the "elite" might want to commit suicide after being stuck putting up with the crazies.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:23 | 5812149 garypaul
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so here is Evan SOLOMON helping spread the news that Putin is "crazy"  lol

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 10:35 | 5814846 GMadScientist
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He *is* a politician.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:59 | 5812295 SteveNYC
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".... preparing for "full-scale war" against Russia and wants Canada to help ...."

 

Surely you jest. The poor Ukies can't win a battle against the "rebels", yet their "brave" politicians, such as this asshole, are willing to bring them to war with Russia. Wanker. And a whole lot of good Canada will do.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 19:11 | 5813372 Flagit
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The poor Ukies can't win a battle against the "rebels", yet their "brave" politicians, such as this asshole, are willing to bring them to war with Russia.

Very quickly would it be over.

I was playing Euchre one night and out of desperation called spades trump with the 10, Q, K, and an offsuit Ace. Upon calling spades trump the first player from the other team gave me a funny look and said "Spades?", as she laid down both bauers and the Ace. Instant set, 2 pts. 

That whole episode took about 20 seconds, which is twice as long as it would take Russia to wipe Ukraine's ass with their own face.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 14:01 | 5812301 Bossman1967
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but they have to live in the world they leave

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 14:28 | 5812386 Gazooks
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'Effin' politicians always gambling with everyone elses lives. They have their bunkers and food. We get the fallout. Bastards!' - Realname

 

Prescient post. Imagine the impact of 15 remaining Ukrainian nuclear power plants beyond Chernobyl in an environment of 'full scale war'. 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 17:27 | 5813025 Perimetr
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I'm for sending lethal weapons --

as long as they use them on themselves.

Sure makes me proud to be an American as I watch the Democrats and Republicans line up to send unlimited military aid to the neo-Nazis in Kiev.

It isn't just the extremists in Ukraine who want war with Russia.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 19:14 | 5813386 Flagit
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We could send them the origional Lethal Weapon, Mel Gibson.

He already hates Jews.

Wait, whoops!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 19:23 | 5813406 hal10000
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Well, there aren't that many neo-Nazis in this government.  Not that's saying much because the government that is there is filled with dimwits.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 19:45 | 5813455 zeropain
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the US takes 20% of the resources of earth.  how do we do this?  you think we just deserve it?  god wills it?  our own arrogance will be our downfall, the enemy is our own creation. 

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 10:37 | 5814852 GMadScientist
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Look up Manifest Destiny.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 23:49 | 5814033 Cornfedbloodstool
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I gives a fuck.

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 00:58 | 5814168 Hope Copy
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The prelude before slamming the door... BUNKER MENTALITY TO THE MAX.

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 02:16 | 5814291 Atomizer
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Realname,

Effin' politicians always gambling with everyone elses lives.

 

Until a gun is lodged in their mouth. One, they can't speak. Two, they're shitting themselves. Don't worry.

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 03:52 | 5814389 JLee2027
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These fuckers have lost their minds. 

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 15:29 | 5815593 glenlloyd
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So in other words, you sent free stuff to Iraq (weapons / troops) so we want our share of free stuff? Am I reading that right?

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:27 | 5811961 ghengis86
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they'll get their war.  the evil, satan-whorshipping psychopaths won't quit.  Fuck them all to hell!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:29 | 5812167 permarig
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"We will force this war upon Hitler, if he wants it or not." - Winston Churchill (1936 broadcast)

Hillary Clinton says Putin’s actions are like ‘what Hitler did back in the ’30s’ - WaPo (2014)

"Propaganda is the executive arm of the invisible government." - Edward Bernays, Propaganda (1928)

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:27 | 5811962 El Vaquero
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Sorry bub, but if you're drafting 25-60 year olds, you ain't going to be prepared for shit.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:43 | 5812020 Miffed Microbio...
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I think the only preparation is for suicide. Do they honestly believe lethal weapons will make a difference? Americans around me seem strangely nonplussed over the whole thing.

Miffed

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:52 | 5812054 El Vaquero
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Nonplussed is better than apathetic.  At the very least, it means that they are sensing that something could be wrong here. 

 

To the government:  If I see mushroom clouds over Kirtland AFB with my own eyes and survive, you fucks will be every bit as responsible as whomever pushed the button on the other side.  Economic collapse >>>>>>>>>> nuclear war.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:23 | 5812152 Miffed Microbio...
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Unfortunately the gap is large between sensing something wrong and doing something about it. In 2006 I was thoroughly convinced something was vastly wrong. In 2015 I am in much better shape in terms of facing a variety of scenarios than than the average person but it took incredible work, capital and focus to get here.

A 9-5 worker drone is at a disadvantage and the limited time they do have now is consumed by distractions to stave off depression from their situation. Fortunately, I did not fall into this trap. I am sorry for the others but if or when this comes down, they have responcibility in this just as the fucks who pushed the button.

Miffed

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:41 | 5812216 disabledvet
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I don't think if I see a bunch of mushroom clouds all around I'll start running around blaming people for not seeing things my way.

 

Besides....we have Ebola now.

 

Who needs nukes when you have Ebola.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 19:16 | 5813391 beaglebog
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And measles.

 

Fucking measles.

 

The horror.

 

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 10:39 | 5814858 GMadScientist
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And TB. Next up for a big comeback in the states: Polio!

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 01:52 | 5814254 Clashfan
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Speaking of nuclear war in Ukraine and mushroom clouds...? http://www.infowars.com/video-nuke-reportedly-detonates-in-ukraine/

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:29 | 5811964 Son of Captain Nemo
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This will be short!  For NATO I mean and not with the flag they want flying in the middle of Maidan Square either!

We're all Russians now!!!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:35 | 5811993 cossack55
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Je suis Russkies

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 21:11 | 5813660 mendolover
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I do think their lack of political correctness is admirable.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:35 | 5811994 cossack55
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We Russified some folks

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:39 | 5812009 clade7
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This "We-----some folks" line never gets old! 

 

20yrs from now, those of us that lived through the 'We-----some folks' era will still be saying it and esplaining it to the youth...

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:40 | 5812213 Dame Ednas Possum
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"We nuked some folks"

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:46 | 5812234 Mountainview
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In Debaltsevo rebels captured already sophisticated US war material. (Electronic Mortar localisation systems) left over by fleeing UKR army. Copies soon in Chinese arm shops. 

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 10:42 | 5814864 GMadScientist
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These are the same localization systems that "accidentally" bombed a Chinese embassy during Kosovo?

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:55 | 5812267 Son of Captain Nemo
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20yrs from now, those of us that lived through the 'We-----some folks' era will still be saying it and esplaining it to the youth...

You better hope that there will be "--------some folks" left with the "hair triggers" that the United States and NATO are forcing on the Russians.  Just think of what the Russian Federation will have to do when that ship crosses into Russian water after having violated yet again the Montreux Convention(s), or fires a tomahawk missile inside Russia and the Russian military has to make the decision do "we nuke" or "not nuke" based on that incoming?...

This is a timely read from Sprott on how significant "the problem" "is", certainly enough to ponder the question of getting rid of the source of the problem instead of treating the symptoms before it's too late!

This family was instrumental in removing one of the most important families in Eastern Europe more than 96 years ago which coincidentally just happens to be the same Country they are going after again!

It simply begs the question of why "the shoe can't be placed on the other foot"?!!! For lack of a better analogy, sometimes internal "house cleaning" is the only way to remove the diesease before it kills the "patient"!

Lets hope member of that corpus called the IMF and Trilateral Commission are thinking about it before we all take a nap!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 14:22 | 5812367 Icelandicsaga.....
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We have done this road before with the Russians in the Balkans .. only then Russia would havs been hard prressed to respond ... today .. they are in a better position .. this story on the Balkans from BBC...

Singer James Blunt has told the BBC how he refused an order to attack Russian troops when he was a British soldier in Kosovo. Blunt said he was willing to risk a court martial by rejecting the order from a US General.

But he was backed by British Gen Sir Mike Jackson, who said: "I'm not going to have my soldiers be responsible for starting World War III."

Blunt was ordered to seize an airfield, but the Russians had got there first.

In an interview with BBC Radio 5 live, broadcast on Sunday, he said: "I was given the direct command to overpower the 200 or so Russians who were there.

"I was the lead officer with my troop of men behind us...


Jump media player Media player help Out of media player. Press enter to return or tab to continue.

"The soldiers directly behind me were from the Parachute Regiment, so they're obviously game for the fight.

"The direct command [that] came in from Gen Wesley Clark was to overpower them. Various words were used that seemed unusual to us. Words such as 'destroy' came down the radi

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 15:28 | 5812581 Son of Captain Nemo
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Is

The fact that American made weapons are and have been there since last February can no longer be lied about!

http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/ukrainegate-nato-weapons-for-truce/

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 22:04 | 5813780 Flagit
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Just think of what the Russian Federation will have to do when that ship crosses into Russian water after having violated yet again the Montreux Convention(s), or fires a tomahawk missile inside Russia and the Russian military has to make the decision do "we nuke" or "not nuke" based on that incoming?...

 

The exact same thing will happen as when they tried that shit in Syria.

Nothing.

The Tomahawk was shot down before making the beach. They made some excuses, and went home.

You can't bully Russia with a.....well, anything.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 15:44 | 5812632 Abitdodgie
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So if Russia invaded America and took it over would it be as bad as with the present Corp or better?

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 10:43 | 5814868 GMadScientist
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In Russia, at least some of the rich assholes see jailtime.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:31 | 5811965 JustObserving
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Prystaiko seems to have taken a page out the US Neocon book - war is the solution.  This war will spread soon enough - the Nobel Prize Winner has never sought a peaceful solution.  His bombing of seven Muslim countries and destabilizing of Ukraine is proof enough.  Not to mention, his attempt to start a war with Syria with lies about sarin.

Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has published an article demonstrating that the US government and President Barack Obama knowingly lied when they claimed that the Syrian government had carried out a sarin gas attack on insurgent-held areas last August.

http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2013/12/10/pers-d10.html

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:39 | 5812012 nowhereman
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And a cogent observation at that.  This is about Syria, It is about Russia stopping the US plans to oust Assad.  This is payback for standing up to the hegemon and it's deciples.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:40 | 5812214 angel_of_joy
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Correction: this is attempted payback...

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:29 | 5811968 Atticus Finch
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"We don't want to scare everybody, but we are preparing for full-scale war,"

Assuming that Kiev can forcefully kidnap enough of their citizens to send to the front. Good luck on that.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:29 | 5811969 ebworthen
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Ooops - lights out for that guy and the rest of the neo-Nazi's.

The U.S. and the E.U. would be wise to stay out of it.

This is a family fight, not some heroic cause.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:43 | 5812023 Savyindallas
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It's not really a "family fight" -It's a matter of Russia defending it's own borders and maintaining some semblence of balance of power, after the US sponsored an illegal coup of a democratically elected government, with the aim of bringing Ukraine into NATO, ballistic misseles on Russia's border,  and IMF enslavement of its citizens -

maybe the Russian Ukranians have decided they don't like their foster parent family -funded and sponsored by corrupt banksters and US puppets (Obama and the US congress included)  and now seek to go back to their natural parents in Mother Russia. Now that's a legit "family" matter.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:45 | 5812230 disabledvet
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That's not what the back of my box of Cheerio's told me to think today.

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 07:07 | 5814572 Charming Anarchist
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You have to stop buying from the reduced-for-clear rack.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:04 | 5812077 spellbound
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US and EU wise?!??! Good luck with that.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:30 | 5811971 clade7
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Wait What?  We aint into that shit! 

We cant go around handing out lethal weapons to everydamnbody...go get your own!

You might try putting in a RFQ to Holder, and telling him you are mexican.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:32 | 5811979 El Vaquero
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You'd have to include in your resume that your current or possibly even past employer was the Sinaloa Cartel or one of its competitors.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:44 | 5812030 clade7
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They should try Craigslist at the very least, the cheap bastards...

 

I'll trade a wrist rocket, a Bear Super Kodiak (LH) and a .22 Marlin for Eugenia...

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:01 | 5812073 El Vaquero
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Heh, I have a Bear Kodiak Hunter.  It's a bit too short for me, but it's a nice bow.  Keep the Bear.  Eugenia isn't worth it.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:12 | 5812085 clade7
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Yeah, your right...I bought it brand new for $80 back in the mid 70's with my muskrat trapping proceeds...it has been a Lethal Weapon all these years...my faithful 'go to' choice be it fish, fur or fowl, never once let me down...

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:30 | 5811972 franzpick
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What a POS, along with 'our' conspirators Victorious and McInsane, et al.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:31 | 5811975 SquadronVBF94
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"We don't want to scare everybody, but we are preparing for full-scale war," warns Vadym Prystaiko  As any soverign nation has  the right to do.  The Soviet Union may have entered a coma in 1991 but Russian imperialism is alive and well.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:39 | 5811997 JustObserving
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And why seest thou the mote in thy brother's eye: but the beam that is in thy own eye thou considerest not? Let's look at the facts:

 

Since WW2, Earth has had 248 armed conflicts. The US started 201 of them.
These US-started armed attacks have killed ~30 million and counting; 90% of these deaths are innocent children, the elderly and ordinary working civilian women and men.
The US has war-murdered more than Hitler’s Nazis.
US official reports now confirm all “reasons” the US told for current armed attacks were known to be false as they were told.
These lie-started US wars are not even close to lawful (here and here recently).
US wars and rhetoric for more wars continue a long history of lie-began US Wars of Aggression. Themost decorated US Marine general in his day warned all Americans of this fact of lie-started wars for 1% plunder.

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/05/earth-248-armed-conflicts-ww2-us-...

 

Lies and Consequences in Our Past 15 Wars

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/9419-lies-and-consequences-in-our-pas...

U.S.-U.K. Genocide Against Iraq 1990-2012 Killed 3.3 Millions

http://www.opednews.com/articles/U-S-U-K-Genocide-Against-by-Sherwood-Ro...

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:43 | 5812022 Latina Lover
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SquadronVBF94,  You first! Lead the way into war with Russia, pick up your gun, and show us how it is done, LOL>

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:49 | 5812248 disabledvet
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Stop being a Debbie Downer!

 

Bring your harmonica and say hello to the Rzhev meat grinder!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:51 | 5812257 George Bush League
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SquadronVBF94, just Fuck Off and Die, Asshole.

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 00:24 | 5814101 PhilofOz
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SquadronVBF94 is just another big-mouthed chickenhawk, so odds of that happening are close to zero. I'd give 100/1 and be cheating anyone taking the bet.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:45 | 5812233 Dame Ednas Possum
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They are some very just observations.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:59 | 5812290 Urban Redneck
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A sovereign nation is exactly that - sovereign, and free to do as it pleases.  (Except Ukraine isn't.. sovereign since Uncle Sam has his fist up the Ukie ass and his other hand on their wallet.)  Foreign Ministers, however, are not sovereign, or free to do as they choose.  They serve a very specific purpose, and when they start spouting shit- they need to executed,  along with their wives and children, and preferably in the most grotesque and horrifying manner practicable, so as to remind others of the consequences of fucking up in that position.  

What Prystaiko is trying to do is keep US imperialism alive and well... by dragging the US & Canada into a full scale war it has no business in.

In the interest of the preservation of humanity - KILL EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD IN UKRAINE.  The method is irrelevant - put them ovens or gas chambers, string them from lamp posts with piano wire, use poison gas or depleted uranium on their crowds, or just drop some nukes and be done with it.  There are no innocents in war.  And if this insanity is not stopped within Ukraine, then we will all suffer.  

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 14:39 | 5812419 Volkodav
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Ukraine has never been a sovereign nation.

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 12:04 | 5815044 piratepiet
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Plus est en vous

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 15:54 | 5812671 Dathedr
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Really? Someone who came to power by coup has no say in anything. Only people there can have a say in the matter of war (or any other interest, worry or concern of theirs), and none there wants it. Have a referendum and let the people there express their will, you'll find that +95% does not want it. What does that say then? That we are all slaves and of those bureaucRats and paid oligarchs' agents, hm? Well, we'll see for how much longer won't we?! Everything ends somewhere, and this is a good place and time to end the tyranny of banksters and oligarcs once and for all -- in the West like everywhere else.

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 07:50 | 5814478 Shipwrecked
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Ukraine is a "soverign nation"? You are funny guy. They have foreigners in their government, american citizen is Uke's finance minister. Huge chunks of fertile land are on long-term leases to foreign corps totalling some 32 million hectares (Monsanto is one of them - ring a bell?), mineral rights are up for grabs (Hunter Biden is not there for a cup of coffee). Poroshenko can't take a dump without Biden Senior permission. Sovereignity all right. Hilareous.

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 11:03 | 5814908 GMadScientist
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You'll have to excuse them; they really aren't used to seeing colonial exploitation of white people.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:31 | 5811976 Max Steel
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ceasefire holding till now . US provided anti radar mortar ( LRMS) to them which they lost to NAF . 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 14:38 | 5812414 Volkodav
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There is still artillery on civilians, infrastructure.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:33 | 5811978 Rootin' for Putin
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Well theres plenty of videos out in the last two days showing that the rail yards in Debaltseve are in pretty good shape and that the Novorussians now have all sorts of lethal ukie weapons and the US anti mortar radar previously sent and nice new Canadian kevlar helmets.

http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/02/naf-thanks-united-states-for-new-lcm...

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:58 | 5812064 Rock On Roger
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No wonder the Ukrainians are asking the west for weapons.

Kiev murderers leave their weapons behind for the freedom fighters.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:45 | 5812232 hibou-Owl
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I have friend who is former captain SAS, said the yanks leave weapons & equipment all the time.
he said it like picking up kids toys, on exercise if things get tuff they drop weight.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 22:47 | 5813821 Flagit
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The Schick® Disposable Rifle.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:33 | 5811983 Arius
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watching charlie wilson's war movie last  night ... kind of understand why russians are scared of us weapons reaching their borders ... will see i guess....

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:35 | 5811992 Rootin' for Putin
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Charlie wilson - the man who personally started the taliban, and all the problems related to them since.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:41 | 5812018 El Vaquero
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Funny thing was, he stated that we were fucking up the endgame on that one as we were fucking it up.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:46 | 5812040 clade7
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Charlie Wilsons name immediately came to mind while reading this headline...good post Arius.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:10 | 5812105 Max Steel
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Its strange to see they will be afraid of usa weapons ?They have equally and more better weapons  It will only increase the conflict which usa wants and its putsch regime wants .

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:02 | 5812074 Unknown Poster
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The Afghan countryside is much harder on people than Ukraine's is. This makes its people much more independent, and more likely to say FU.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:33 | 5811984 wmbz
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“Why can't everybody leave everybody else the hell alone” ~ Jimmy Durante

 

 

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:46 | 5812027 Cycle
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"Fatti i cazzi tuoi" Roman proverb loose translation: only pay attention to what you do with your own prick. ie "Mind your own business."

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:34 | 5811985 nowhereman
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Canada, being the USA's bitch, has gone along with the propaganda blitz from day one.  However, should the government decide to provide weaponry to Ukraine, I know that I and and many other Canadians will begin to let this government know in stronger terms, that we do not approve.  I have already let my member of parliament know of my oposition to the governments support of the NATO agenda, as have many other Canadians not taken in by the media bullshit.

This will not sit well with Canadians with common sense

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:36 | 5812000 Rootin' for Putin
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Me too, yesterday i got a email from my mp that he was forwarding mine onto the minister of foriegn affairs who would write and tell me why im wrong

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:46 | 5812037 Rock On Roger
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Me too, I got an email from PMO saying my complaint was forwarded on to the 'honorable' John Baird.

 

Things changed in Canadian foreign policy after Harper visited Israel a couple years ago.

 

Canada went from peace keeping to war mongering after that trip.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:55 | 5812060 angel_of_joy
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Canadians have a general election coming this October. Baird is no longer minister.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:11 | 5812110 MiltonFriedmans...
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Canada, US bitch? I think it's more correct to state that The US and Canada are both the UK's bitch

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:57 | 5812285 Rock On Roger
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Bankster Bitchez

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 18:23 | 5813237 Clarabell
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Actually the US and Canada are Israel's bitch.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:31 | 5812180 Stumpy4516
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Correct me if I am wrong.

Canda has been and still is killing arabs in the middle east.  This includes ground troups and air strikes.

Canadian troups have been accused of atrocities just as have US troops.  But far less often I think.

Much of Canada's gold was sold when the price of gold was very low. 

Why is going to stop now?

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:45 | 5812231 talisman
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Ever since Mulroney cozyied up to and jumped in the sack with Reagan,
Canada has been  CIA/AIPAC's bitch.
Under Treaudeau, Canada had been a neutral, peace loving, independent Nation.

 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 18:29 | 5813255 Clarabell
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We're all hoping that Trudeau's son now heading the Liberal Party will have the independence, character and fortitude that his father had. The jury is still out on that one. But that Fascist moron Harper is taking Canada down a road that no one wants to go.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 19:12 | 5813375 Rootin' for Putin
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"Trudeau jr couldnt get elected if he was the only guy running and the only guy voting".  - A staunch liberal hippy coworker of mine.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 23:16 | 5813958 emersonreturn
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hello clarabell, justin is his mother's son...not his father's.  expecting him to be anything other than an airhead is delusional on your part.  both harper and justin will do whatsoever the bankers ask.  there is no choice.  elizabeth may is not even aware of FUKUShima.  it's hard but canadians need to understand the bankers own canada.  vote PQ hope for the best. 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:34 | 5811986 Soul Glow
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Don't be scared, it's just full scale war.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:38 | 5812006 cossack55
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Agreed.  The really scary war is cyberwar cause you may lose FB or Twitter for an hour or two.  Freakin' frightnin'.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:43 | 5812021 Ignatius
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Imagine the uproar from the online gaming community.

Too horrible to contemplate.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:26 | 5812157 Soul Glow
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How the hell am I going to get laid if I don't have tinder?  You mean I have to go to a bar and talk?  Jesus, what is this world coming to!

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 23:02 | 5813926 Flagit
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That was something they actually tried to utilize.

You will have problems finding an article, but a while back World Of Warcraft was "hacked" by the Syrian Electronic Army.....if you can believe that.

It was an attempt to get the millions of players to call for war in Syria.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:38 | 5812005 tradingdaze
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I seem to remember the refugees fleeing into Russia not Kiev.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:39 | 5812011 cossack55
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Those were immigrants. The refugees flew to the US and drew their EBT cards.

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 00:34 | 5814127 PhilofOz
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.....and that is the only reason the Ukraine government is closing its borders to Russia.... to stop the future cannon fodder from getting away.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:41 | 5812015 Circle of DNA
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I wonder how many hours this “full scale war” with Russia might last?!...I’m all for this war, as long as the politicians who advocate for it send their children to fight it.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:52 | 5812029 SilverFish
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When you're about to be attacked by one of the largest military forces on the planet, you're hardly in a position to be making "demands"  on someone with an even larger military than them.

 

Humility 101

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:44 | 5812031 breezer1
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This has the feel of another great distraction brought to us be the same people who gave us 911.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:45 | 5812032 buzzsaw99
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sure bub, whatever you say. how about some tactical nukes and a carrier task force? [/SARCASM]

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:47 | 5812041 directaction
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"Canada has been training ..."
Canadians are the #1 water boys for the USA. 

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:48 | 5812044 HenryHall
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>>> Prystaiko says, pointing out that Ukraine has now closed its border crossing with Russia. "We don't want to scare everybody, but 

 

Does that mean Ukraine will no longer allow Russian coal or electricity to enter Ukraine?

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:51 | 5812053 Rootin' for Putin
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thats just to keep the under 20, over 60 and women in for the next round of conscription

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 22:55 | 5813899 Realname
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If this article is true, theyre really scraping the bottom of the barrel. Theyre recalling Ukranian foster-kids from Spain to conscript. http://rinf.com/alt-news/featured/ukraine-conscripts-children-foreign-co...

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 12:50 | 5812048 25or6to4
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Prystaiko echos the view of Angela Merkel on Putin.

"He is in some parallel universe..."

This observation coming from somebody that has no problem starting a war with a nuclear power and trying to drag the rest of the world with him.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:00 | 5812070 markar
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These psychopaths in Kiev won't survive the summer let alone a full scale war.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:05 | 5812080 markar
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Canada has been training Ukrainian soldiers for the past decade?

If that's the kind of military training Canada offers then a few hundred farmers from N. Dakota with pitchforks and John Deere tractors should be able to cross the border and take over the country.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:07 | 5812095 Two dogs
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If Canadian forces are the answer, then what the fuck was the question?

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:17 | 5812131 clade7
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Well, I guess the question would be:

 

"Who would you call if you were up to your ass in pisswater beer, maple syrup, and being invaded by baby seals"?

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 11:10 | 5814932 GMadScientist
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How are we gonna win this hockey game?

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 23:05 | 5813934 Flagit
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They tried that back in 1812.

It didn't go over very well.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:06 | 5812090 10mm
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I will say this. get your 7.62x39's ASAP. Period.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:07 | 5812091 Jam
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This idiot must have a dual citizen provision in his job. You can bet your ass that this bigshot will be long gone when the fallout from his decisions become true.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:31 | 5812185 basho
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i have the feeling that most of these fools are running scared.

from porky on down.

the nazis are getting ready to torch these clowns for sending all the nazi brigades in w/o backup support.

he's got to get with the program or he's not going to survive the summer.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:14 | 5812121 Two dogs
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Just one request: if it's gonna be Canada vs Russia for the opening round of WWIII, could the match be played in the east Russian/ western Canadian region, please? Or maybe meet up in Alaska?

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:30 | 5812178 cwsuisse
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If you want to be cynical consider the proxy war as an experiment to find out about the effectiveness of modern russian weaponry.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:30 | 5812179 cwsuisse
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If you want to be cynical consider the proxy war as an experiment to find out about the effectiveness of modern russian weaponry.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 13:56 | 5812280 Two dogs
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So you can't test it in Alaska?

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 11:12 | 5814936 GMadScientist
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Nah, Sarah Palin might see it from her house.

Sat, 02/21/2015 - 15:35 | 5812600 Niall Of The Ni...
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Quebec. The Ukraine of Canada. In its own mind its own, better country. In reality the bigger country's bleeding asshole, inhabited by inbred retards who refuse to learn English. Even their women are the ugliest white chicks on the planet.

Nuking Montreal and Quebec City would solve most of English Canada's problems overnight.

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 10:38 | 5814855 U-P-G-R-A-Y-E-D-D
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I'm pretty sure Alaska has worse women than Quebec.  Also - less of them and it is very dark.  Play the game there.  

Sun, 02/22/2015 - 07:24 | 5814584 Charming Anarchist
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European or NHL sized rink? 

 

<<... if it's gonna be Canada vs Russia for the opening round of WWIII, could the match be played in...>>

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