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Peace? Ukraine "Preparing For Full-Scale War" With Russia, Demands The West Supply Lethal Weapons
"We don't want to scare everybody, but we are preparing for full-scale war," warns Vadym Prystaiko - Ukraine's deputy foreign minister - telling CBC during a stunning interview that "what we expect from the world is that the world will stiffen up in the spine a little." Demanding that West provide 'lethal weapons' Prystaiko rages "everybody is afraid of fighting with a nuclear state. We are not anymore." Coming just a week after the Minsk Summit 'peace' deal and with Germany having warned they are likely unable to stop arms being supplied to Ukraine, Prystaiko concludes, "we would like [The West] to send lethal weapons to Ukraine... weapons to allow us to defend ourselves."
Ukraine's deputy foreign minister says he is preparing for "full-scale war" against Russia and wants Canada to help by supplying lethal weapons and the training to use them.
Vadym Prystaiko, who until last fall was Ukraine's ambassador to Canada, says the world must not be afraid of joining Ukraine in the fight against a nuclear power.
In an interview with CBC Radio's The House airing Saturday, Prystaiko says the ceasefire brokered by Germany and France was not holding.
"The biggest hub we ever had in the railroad is completely destroyed and devastated," he told host Evan Solomon about Debaltseve, captured by Russian-backed rebels after the terms were to have taken effect earlier this week.
"We see that they are not stopping," he says, suggesting the fight was now heading south to the port of Mariupol.
"It doesn't take a genius to see what they are trying to do.… They are taking more and more strategic points."
The former ambassador was in the room during the attempts to broker a political solution with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Minsk.
"Personally I don't trust him," he says. "You look at him and you think, 'Are you serious?'"
"Nobody knows what is going on in his head. I believe he is becoming very emotional [over the two countries' historic ties]," he suggests, calling Putin's intentions "difficult to predict."
Prystaiko echoes the view German Chancellor Angela Merkel is said to have expressed to U.S. President Barack Obama privately a year ago: "He is rational in his own way. He is in some parallel universe ... and he sees differently than everyone else."
'We have to do something'
"The stakes are really high," Prystaiko says, pointing out that Ukraine has now closed its border crossing with Russia. "We don't want to scare everybody, but we are preparing for full-scale war."
What to do in the face of such a threat? For starters, get over your fears, he says.
"What we expect from the world is that the world will stiffen up in the spine a little," he says. "Everybody is afraid of fighting with a nuclear state. We are not anymore, in Ukraine — we've lost so many people of ours, we've lost so much of our territory.
"However dangerous it sounds, we have to stop [Putin] somehow. For the sake of the Russian nation as well, not just for the Ukrainians and Europe."
Prystaiko says Ukrainians are blunt when it comes to what they need.
"We would like Canada to send lethal weapons to Ukraine," he said. "Weapons to allow us to defend ourselves."
Canada has been helping to train Ukrainian soldiers for the last decade, but it isn't enough, he says.
"It wasn't on the level that would help our army [against an] invasion."
Ukraine wants weapons, and training to use them, he said.
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But he doesn't hold back from calling on Ukraine's Western allies to step up, echoing the frustration he expressed last November over Canada's willingness to intervene in Iraq but not send troops to help Ukraine.
"I was quite blunt... and probably it was premature at that point but now I have to ask again: If we see the same sort of rebels coming towards central Ukraine, towards other cities, how much is different from what we see in Iraq and the international help which was coming?"
"Unfortunately, we will probably pose a very serious question for the rest of the world: How can we react to this new challenge? We haven't had it for 50 years in Europe. Now it's back again."
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This coming just a week after the Minsk Summit deal and further to Putin's warnings that "if Kiev seeks a military solution, war will never end," it appears Ukraine has gone from bad to worse to worst possible scenario as proxy war tensions mount.
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who let this maniac out of his cage?
we're going to war and you all have to help us and train us and supply us with weapons and, and, and.
are all these people related to mad mccain?
If by "related to", you in fact meant "coconspirator with", then yes.
How incredibly short sighted to say the only way forward is to kill. Maybe this world needs a nuclear war. Because humans are a failed species, and don't deserve this place. Return it to the lower creatures of the earth, that have demonstated that they can live, barring a natural disaster, for millions of years at a stretch, in balance and in a way that sustains the environment. Anybody care to even think that humans could manage that?
Valid point...we do like to kill each other and other things and cut down trees and shit..although without humans here on this planet, it would be a pretty boring place....the only other animal that cuts down trees, digs canals, and modifies an ecosystem to suit their needs are beavers...and they cant play basketball for a damn..
Basketball isn't necessarily the pinnacle of civilisation. The world might be able to survive without it, you know. Are they any good at water polo?
@silverer It's call Human Asshole-ism, and yes mankind does need a collective enema (Nuclear War). Unless humanity is willing to liquidate with extreme prejudice all the sociopaths and psychopaths in society, then it is not going to end well for mankind.
That's the problem ..... the sociopaths and psychopaths are now at the apex of near everything, government, corporations, military, finance, etc. We are all fucked but don't quite know it yet.
They always were at the apex.
The "failures", in that sense, in the human species represent less than 0.01% of the 9 billion residents.
America is going to fight to the last Ukrainian, it would seem.
Bring it on, you little Galician swine. You want full scale war with Great Russia, you'll get it. And by Angela Merkel's bone dry cunt you will LOSE.
On to Berlin!
You don't need lethal weapons to shoot yourself in the foot
Unfortunately the Ukraine is by all means now a failed state, torn-apart by its very own citizens. The destructive forces at work seem unstoppable. The Russian engagement in the east Ukraine is only a symptom not a cause of the disease. The terrible mistakes of european politicians have aggraveted the ukrainian losses and accelerated the decay of the country. In the desperate situation the country is currently in, its leaders are either to weak or too hungry for money to give-up. Instead the agony will be prolonged by more war - at least if Mrs. Merkel is stupid enough to send more funds.
Ukraine has never been a sovereign nation.
Well, a minister should lead by example. So get your camouflage, your boots and your AK-47 (74) and hitch a ride east.
CBC a real propaganda machine, but Yahoo (via AP, reuters, AFP, Bloomberg, etc.) and Google (via mainly BI) are really pushin' it out also. just think about it , whole msm supportin' nazis!
Funny old world, isn't it? At the start of WWII, the US population was generally supportive of Nazi Germany and the leadership had to turn the population round into entering the war (on the side of Russia, amongst others) against the Nazis.
Standard operating procedure since McCarthy.
John Titor alleged Time Traveler prediction in his 2000/2001 posting on the interweb:
Nuclear war around 2015 with Russia striking first (US cities and military target destroyed) USA split in five countries and a civil war with a survivalist like environment break up.
Then the constitution is restored back, Federal Gov dismantled.
I could live with that.
Me too.
Historians will be split on whether to blame or to thank Canada. HollyWorld will step into the fray.
A few thoughts:
1. I'm not real informed on everything going on. But aren't the ones requesting US aid the ones that the US supports and helped get into power? Nothing like installing your brother in enemy camp and then having to come to the rescue making everyone think you're doing the righteous thing.
2. Not afraid of nuclear power? Thanks for speaking for all of us deuchbag.
3. Ukraine vs. Russia. LMAO. That will be like the US vs. Iraq war. (i'm talking about the initial invasion not the disastrous after-affects).
4. If there is a Russian invasion, it will be BECAUSE the US sends Ukraine wmd's to annihilate those nasty rebels who are most certainly terrorists and extremists in every sense of the word according to Lord Obama.
5. If Russia invades, are the leaders in the US already drooling to retaliate? What are those odds? "We had to toss some nukes today". "Some people got hurt. And melted." "You didn't blow that up. We did". If you were Russia and knew you were being drawn in so there would be an excuse to attack Russia.........why would you bother with it? As in why wouldn't you look for an option not expected. Perhaps a mushroom cloud over DC, before the wmd's even make it to Ukraine?
Is it just me or do tensions and shit going on in the world just scream that disaster is coming? The US gov't will lie every step of the way and the DOW will be making another new high the day the earth gets blown back to hell. No one ever seen it coming. Keep slaves in the dark at all costs. Maintain law and order. Have plans in place to capture surviving slaves after the chaos.
The US Government (NAZI Regime) are starting wars all over the world. That's because we don't produce anything with our hands anymore plus 75% of the populace are on Prozac. The US nolonger holds the Moral high ground on anything. Stop shopping at Wallmart, get off the drugs, go back to church and pray on your knees again like your grandparents did. Oh yeah, remember them? Your grandparents that lived on bacon, lard, eggs and Fresh Whole Milk straight from the Cow!!! Big corporations, Banksters and Whore-politicians have sold you/us out! The big one is coming so either way you participate or get crushed by the NAZI's with the US Pin on their lapels. In fact, just get out of the way. You fucking lazy-ass left leaning liberal FUCK's make me wanna vomit!!!
P.s. I shouldn't ate that 3rd doughnut this morning. I still meant what I said though.
Why worry with mushroom clouds? Just EMP the USSA...our nuke plants meltdowna and the population is almost totally wiped out.
Good luck Ukraine. Too bad your UNELECTED Government is starting a war with Russia. My money's on Putin. You're gonna get your Fucking Asses kicked back to the Stone Age!!!
Canada? Send Weapons? What, Maple Syrup bombs? Moose Shit Bombs? Baby Seal Clubs? Hockey Sticks?...
No, the rifles the cops on horses(whatever their fucking called) stole from their citizens. LOL.
Speaking of which, doesn't Canada have aweome nat. resources? They're probably on the US shitlist somewhere also.
Full scale war so we need the west to fund our Russian i invasion on behalf of our defense
And to Obomber, McCain, Kerry and Nuland that makes perfect sense!
Send him to the front line
Better still ask him to take his kids to the front line with him.
Full scale war with Russia? LOL. Dude what are you holding back against the separatists right now? Are you holding back the good stuff for a full scale war? Your ass is already kicked and Russia hasn't even scratched you like a flea bite yet. A full scale war will last as long as it takes Russian tanks to drive at full speed from the border to Kiev, maybe a day or two, with most Ukrainians waving Russian flags on the roadside. I suspect this appeal is code language asking for nuclear weapons.
Nuclear weapons would be my thought. Bottle rockets aren't going to do them any good. I'm sure Kiev leadership won't mind nuking an entire city out of existence just to kill a couple dz rebels. Especially if the US gives them the green light.
Kiev is only 200 miles from the Russian border. The war won't take long.
If you watch the Youtube channel of Graham Phillips, you will see real faces of separatists. They are just ordinary people, most are 30-50 yo, not regular army types.
https://www.youtube.com/user/gwplondon/videos
most all locals served military.... and many older guys are ex services and specialtists, Afgantsy and other conflicts..
very experienced and not scared of much
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So "we are preparing for full-scale war" and "everybody is afraid of fighting with a nuclear state. We are not anymore." So why not not just go for it? Just declare war on Russia and see how it works out. I'd give them two days - absolute max. Bullshitting bastard.
Two days to Kiev. Two weeks to Berlin, with hardly a shot fired in anger.
Why burn the fuel?
Just flip the switch to shut off the gas. Sit back and wait for the Hat-In-Hand apology tour.
Yeah, who needs money?!
This puppet is on something. Either his brain isn't working or he was promised a caribbean exile.
Everyone, just calm down. There's not going to be any war, just a lot of snarling from rabid dogs that are being checkmated up and down the line. True, there is a global war in progress, but the really big battles are being fought in the financial and monetary underground. If the neonazi Western empire had any real power left, Iran and Syria would have been overrun long ago. And they plan to take on Russia directly?
Yes, there no doubt actually exists a core of banker-controlled military that may feel serious about destroying the world in order to make it more easily manipulated in the aftermath. They may even believe their own propaganda, but when push comes to shove, the very foundation of their power --the $monetary system-- will crumble where they stand.
So calm down and take a nap; better yet, start a microdosing regimen: there isn't a single man out there who doesn't need a few more neurotransmitters in his diet to help him think it all through.
What microdosing do you refer too? http://www.xceleron.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/microdosing_past_5yea...
Or are you speaking of LSD or something funny?
Microdosing is microdosing. Subliminal levels of drugs that have nevertheless proved to have substantial beneficial affects. Please note that I did specify neurotransmitters : ) I've found that LSA is perfect for my own particular purposes -- writing and meditation being among them. If you're in your 60's, pay special attention: microdosing psychedelics has been conclusively shown to incur neurogenesis (actual nerve cell development) At 64, I still have an I.Q. of 148 --and intend to keep it that way. Just wish to hell I knew about all this back in 1968 ; )
Morning glory seeds.
Exactly. Plant something like 'Flying Saucers'. Though really, any species that gives you large blooms and, apparently therefore, seeds. A 1/4 tsp. will give you a perfect day: well focused and calm, but with no sense of being "high" in the recreational sense.
Thanks pmf. I'm fighting for my life here, nutritionally, and out of pocket. It didn't turn out to be the retirement I planned for.
So far I am really glad I refused raditation.
I tried writing Jamie Dimon to see how he treated his, but never got a response.
Fuck Jamie Dimon; here's MY response. Look into phoenixtears.ca and check out the Rick Simpson saga regarding hemp oil. Seriously.
I mean it. SERIOUSLY.
Be sure to watch 'Run From the Cure' on youtube.
You should probably up that dose; doesn't seem to be doing much for ya.
This certainly caught my attention. Why we didn't hear about it or discover it in our "authorized" history books in high school???...
For the Soviets?...
Foolish pride that they were invincible and could be embarrased by anyone after having won WWII.
For the United States?...
Probably for the same reasons you never studied the alliance between the Union and Russia during the American civil war to keep the British out of it. That is until we determined them to be the ultimate threat after WWII and summarily removed that information by the early 50's from our "modern history" because it was inconvenient truth when we needed to villify the competition.
The fact that the U.S. government was complicit in the starvation of more than 1.7 million German POWs in WWII after they surrendered.
The U.S.S. Liberty incident
U.S. strategic involvement during the Yam Kippur War in 1973 including campaigns in Lebanon during it's civil war...
And this just scratches the surface!!!
You can certainly count on one thing as far as the "new" Russia is concerned...
They won't be too shy about telling the World who deliberately slaughtered their own with hired mercs inside their own Country multiple times like Belsan and Volgograd these past 20 years or who destroyed their cousin next door!!!
Interesting comment. I'd never heard about the October 1950 US attack on the airfield at Sukhaya Rechka. I learn something new every day (a very 'unamerican' activity, I know).
Also, the White Book report available on the date of publication of the orientalreview.org story that you linked to was the April 2014 volume, which covers the period from November 2013 through March 2014. Two more volumes have since been released. The June 2014 volume covers April through mid-June, and the November 2014 volume covers July through November.
There is an icon on the Russian Foreign Ministry web page which will take you to links for these volumes in English or Russian.
http://www.mid.ru/bdomp/brp_4.nsf/main_eng
All I can say is this: good luck fighting ANY full-scale war with Russia!
Vadym Prystaiko, Turchinov or Yats are really crazy and dangerous. Obama must be crazy in providing weapons to that kind of people.
All Bravo Sierra & Smoke & Mirrors folks Da Da Dat TA....
Art Metrano had it right back then...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-SNrvHdZJE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ3VULfbxSc&list=RDpQ3VULfbxSc#t=0
Napolean & Hitler tried & failed epically. Why anybody else would use the beat up US MIL is beyond me. The other angle is to offer a "Faustian Bargain" to Co-Rule the planet's NWO w/ China / Russia & US....
Although I'm an American and a veteran...I'm "rootin' for Putin" as expression goes. Fuck the US Senate warmongering duo McCain & Graham.
We(the USA) ain't got a dog in that fight and should butt out.
hairball
LOL
You are wise.
No Dogs but you got a Bitch called Victoria who put all your nuts in to Ukraine.
So you need to get that bitch out before your nuts are fried
You don't, but the multinationals that installed the closet-dweller and the nutjob sure do!
If Ukraine wants to know its future with NATO IMF .. and US in charge .. .. look no further than NATO in the Balkans .. a hell hole of competing cartels . jihadis .. drug and sex trafficking and take over by Dyncorp and UN thuggery ... all in the name of humanitarian 'war' ... Ukriainians are either clueless or the Soros and Cookies Nuland did a bang up job convincing them they would finally be 'free' .. IF NATO controls Ukraine .. they willl be 'free' to be debt slaves maybe . but that is about it. By the way a significant bunch of the new leadership do have dual citizenship in Ukraine .. most connected to central bans in some way.
exactly Kosovo is dangerous hellhole dirt poor and attempt enter other eu countries don't want them
We liberated Afghanistan and left it with the Taliban. We liberated Iraq and left it with ISIS. Guess we'll liberate the Uke and leave with Russians.
Look who's united for Ukraine:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1G11ZQ5xOyc/Uz6jpW5IFOI/AAAAAAABnpc/mmApIROuLq...
http://jasonpoblete.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/unitedforukraine_psak...
nazis whores.
It should have said "we're getting ready to have a can opened up on us." Putin will break it off in them then the American dipshit president and his mindless followers in the EU will feel compelled to go toe to toe with the Ruskies. Nuclear combat...
the "rebels" should be all for this, as they will seize these weapons when the "check-collectors" retreat !
Hey Ukraine- Take off........ eh?
Hoser!
Hehe. These Western Ukrop-Nazis have gone out of their mind completely. It's desperation now. They are realizing they won't be commanding anyone soon. Now Russia ought to form a special team of assassins and terminate existance of this Western oligarch's Ukrop vermin. They have destroyed livelihood for millions of people there, not to mention those tens of thousands who died or ended up crippled because of them. Only by killing them will the justice be served.
But then, perhaps that task shall soon be undertaken by none other than those whose livelihood that vermin has destroyed, hm? Maybe that is why they are itching for a fight -- they fear the wrath of those millions who already lost so much! :)
its 99% who will be killed on the battle field. not him. If he were to fight, he would be for peace. But Ukrainians won't fight for jewish and banker's interests. earlier or latter they dissolve internally. Soon there will be a struggle to kick out jew Walzmann. The nazi battalions want to enter Kiev, why? to kick him and yatseniuk. they will usurp the power and go full on against Novorossia. They will get a bloody nose. There will be no more POWS.
Did they specify "Lethal Weapons"? Is there a market for Non-Lethal Weapons? Will any of the combatants be requesting or showing up with Non-Lethal Weapons?
Obama always has his Rainbow Feather-Tickling But-tallion to call upon for non-lethal weaponry.
Never had to do crowd control, eh?
Perhaps the strangest thing about modern Russia is that while it's perfectly legal to possess, keep and share kiddie porn, if you DARE share any of the pics of dead Russian soldiers in Ukraine, you get sent to an asylum as if it was some kind of mental illness....
Got a link Proving this?...and no not to your favorite site for such unpleasantries you sick fuck. How can you live with yourself watching such things. YOU ARE DISGUSTING!
get lost goat
we see what is on your mind....
Li these days a Russian thought:
-Do You want a war, we'll give you one. His problem is to get out alive.
http://cluborlov.blogspot.com.br/2015/01/peculiarities-of-russian-nation...
hehe.
No idea who is really right or wrong or whatever in this, but wtf? They're having enough troubles with their regular army with conscription against some rebels possibly with some help.... what do they hope to achieve going "full scale"...
Also, notice how Canada seems to have been popping up more and more in global events?
Sabre-rattling is an ancient tradition, while Canada is obviously just a patsy satellite state being used to support the now-tired notion of a 'coalition of the willing.'
Unfortunately, the US is riddled with underground bunker cities as rabbit holes for the military/industrial elite, and those people don't give a damn about how many people die in consequence of their actions. Nevertheless, I will reiterate my position that there will be no war. These people are being institutionally trumped, hour by hour.
They can get Lethal Weapon 1 and 2 on netflix for free.
They've got more than enough lethal weaponry already. The problem is they are clueless in carrying out combined arms operations and the quality of their sodiers and junior NCOs and junior officers is laughable at best.
Giving them better weapons means that instead of being garbage, they'll be garbage with different weapons.
It's not that complicated. Ukes cant pay their bills, and are in debt.
They need to be taken over.
If Washington sends any guns, they will sell them later.
Never fired, dropped only once.
Pity the poor, young Ukrainian draftee with his whole life ahead of him, who wants no part of this slaughter. He will end up as Kiev's cannon meat, his dismembered corpse feeding the crows.
Such a senseless waste. Luciferian death and destruction to get Soros off, and nothing more.
Yes, the one who is being dragged off of a commuter bus, and/or having his parent's door kicked in and dragged out of bed. But not to worry, when he takes one in the ass for Willy Wonka and taken prisoner he'll get better treatment than the poor NAF fighter taken prisoner by the Nazi scum.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=17e_1424471061
We need referendums on every major matter regularly everywhere, just like the Swiss have. In Switzerland, if I am not mistaken, there are ~3 referendums each year. And power of the state has to be curbed everywhere too, for every malady the world suffers, you will find that oligarchs who use power of the state for their benefit are behind it! Take that power from the vermin, and there will be no blight. Lucikly we have the Internet now -- the only free medium the vermin does not control, and it has to be protected at all costs. The combination of smaller, isolated, self-sufficient and self-ruled societies, free medium represented by the Internet and regular refendums will finally make this world free and livable once again. The cancer of oligarchy will be defeated (though they should be physically be dealth with as well, for their crimes are too big and steanch unbearably just to let it go; no they have to be destroyed completely, and only then the world can be cleansed of their corruption). Anyhow, the future world will be freer in any case. Difficulties we are seeing are only the labor pains of a new and freer world which is being born.
Smells too much like democracy to me, it'll never happen, we sheep need to know our place/snarc
what we expect from the world
Well you can count me out.
And I rather suspect the only Britons you will get on side are the warmongers posing as politicians sitting in our House of Commons.
Traitors the lot.
We in Britain have a history of fighting and beating fascists and nazis.
We don't fight FOR them or to do their filthy dirty work.
You take on Russia and you will get the pounding you really really deserve.
And hopefully you will get a direct hit.
Be one piece of scum less in the world.
(sorry about the italics and bold - it came out that way and I can't work out how to change it.)
"We in Britain"?
yeh, better fix that first...
I would propose that Britain has produced more War Criminals than any nation.
With the all the colonial and such....
Just two: The Boer War and Firebomb Germans get Britain to top of all time list.
Much less Churchill and gang intentionally provoke Germany for WW2...
It wasn't about facism at all...Germany was targeted
The thing stinks, literally.
3,000 (three thousand) Ukrainian bodies.
Many families without boys next summer.
I estimate that about 400 more Americans, Germans, Poles, French etc., their families never see a tooth.
You, your government, if they put where they should not.
Kill Islamic, African or Latin is one thing.
Kill white people with blue eyes is different.
Pepper in the ass the other is refreshment as the saying goes.
In its is cruel.
There is an interesting link where I watch as will the next World War.
For now the guys are decent, every German knows what happened to the ladies in Berlin when the Russians arrived.
Fear, the thing will be violent.
The link:
http://news-mail.by/
Watch the movies.
:-)
LOL
are these people serious. these low life scums cannot beat local coal miners in a fair fight they run away like cowards, debalstve for example
the way its going, the only ukrainian that we will know are the ones in the national musuem in the extinct section alongside with the dodo bird
Pop quiz. Who will be the first dipshit U.S. politician to promise lethal weapons (that you and I pay for) for these insane doucebags?
John McCain?
With numb skull Chris Murphy's schnoz up his ass.
McCain's girlfriend Lindsey wants to be president so they can play army together anywhere they want
Let's not forget the third leg of that embarassing threesome; senator Kelly Ayote (sp) of NH. I remember that fucking cunt when she was the AG of NH, ruling that tax assessors must be allowed inside citizen's homes, otherwise property owners couldn't appeal an assessment...something like that.
.....in a small pup tent inside 1 sleeping bag.
Someone needs to remind the Ukies that the other guy is supposed to die for his country,,, not you. Those opposing militia boys have been tearing the Ukies a new asshole. They've doubled their territory in just a few months and are close to land locking the Kiev Nazi's. What the Nazi Ukies and their funding benefactor the ussa do not understand is fighting for ones basic survival and the survival of their progeny is far more potent than the actual weapons themselves. The government of the ussa will let the Ukies fight to the last man, woman and child and could care less. Their concern is eliminating the threat that Russia and China pose to their view of the NWO.
World citizens will have to worry whenever the major players decide to compromise on our slavery. Not happening at this point but will in the future.
That is the plan. Every man that can father a child is scheduled to be shredded on the front lines....for the glory of Israel. Remember how a while ago they decided their ancestral homeland was not in the middle east at all, but the ancient land now known as Ukraine. Well, now a proper housecleaning is in order, and the best way to do that is to have the current residents die.
Anyone else following these events share my opinion?
The western Ukr pollack radicals are not the warriors Russ are.
the "Red" mafiya types sitting in Kiev never fight their own battles.
I'll be be able to sleep much more soundly in my bed now that this Ukraine situation has descended to the level of a complete and utter farce. This joke of a government, that can't even beat a bunch of miners with a regular army, wants to team up with Canada to take on a nuclear power? More chance of my ass-hole healing up. If this is the best idea they can come up with, wtf is plan B?
I don't know about you but working with a small team of men in a coal mine is better training in focus and teamwork than anything offered at a western military academy. I wouldn't want to mess with the, especially if I had just bombed their houses and places of employment.
Most people, don't want to be at their jobs in the first place. Who the fuck wakes up and is happy about spending 8-12 hours in a coal mine? They just want to be at home.
Now, take away that home and replace it with a smoldering pile of what used to be your worldly possessions.
I was usually pissed off by quitting time, WITH a place to go. Take away that "place" and someones gonna die for it.
Most of the older guys are former services and specialists...
Afgantsy and other conflicts, very experienced
When it started in Ukraine I read a testimonial on YouTube.
The guy went like this:
I worked in the coal mine, one day I came home and she had been bombed, burned everything.
Luck gave my wife and son were with my mother in another house.
I was military, searched some more and we formed a group with weapons to fuck who was bombing us.
So it all started.
I think most here would do the same if it was your home.
Prystaiko is either a man with enormous insight and should be applauded. OR he's yet another one of Poroshenko's bare faced warmongering nutters.
There aren't too many people anywhere in politics with enormous insight, so I'll bet that he's a fully fledged warmongering nutter who wants his countrymen to go down with the ship while he's safely tucked away in Canada.
WILL RUSSIA OCCUPY KIEV FOR SUCH BOLDNESS
Now there's an interesting question which has been on my mind recently.
I don't have the answer but I think it would take quite a lot of provocation for Putin to order an invasion of Kiev and he would only do it as a last resort if there was no other way to clean up the dirty mess created by Washington/Westminster/Brussels and their crony NATO allies. At the moment he is trying hard for a settlement but the West and Poroshenko don't seem to want one and the Ukraine Ambassador Clown in Canada seems to want full-on-in-your-face war with Russia.
So the jury's out.
West doesn't want a settlement, they want Putin gone because he doesn't kowtow to DC. They are trying to foment an uprising in Russia and need this thing to go on
Maybe you can help? I have a dilemma. Which is worst, Russian-backed rebels or Western backed proxy/quasi governments?
Western/Nazi proxy Junta is worse-it a moot issue Russia will step in and reclaim the land, as the Ukraine is in collapse-watch Porky run, to has already out of country Family and take the Ukraines gold with him
I'd say the Russians are ready to kick any gd Nazi-Fascist ass,.. twice!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUPLAYER_globalresearchtv&v=-6UgHmeiXyo
I bet he knows Ukrainian youth doesn't share his ideology.
tHE PEOPLES DID NOT eLECT THE gOVERNMENT.
Do you think Europe wants WAR? Fuck the Banker in control of the Ukraine and those Minions that support the Collapsing system that is leading to a New World Order. Take it back, (NWO) I don't want to pay for GMO foods and yet they won't label it as such. Freedom is a Choice that I choose not the Financial slavery...........that your system is pushing. The disarmament agreement was to keep Nato from choking Russia. Lies and more lies.
The battle field Earth has had enough of the Elite taking and taking. The Working class will pick you Bastards off and all those that you have spawned.
Dear Mr. Prickstaiko,
Apparently having arms and military ability is not West Ukraine's problem.
From what I've heard, it's having the balls to use them.
It's common knowledge after all that the Western Ukrainians don't mind running from a fight...unless they get shot in the back by their commanding officer on the way out...in which case they're just as happy to surrender to the Eastern Ukrainians.
....Oh, and not being completely out classed in terms of military expertise.
Its not a war that they want to fight, they are well aware that their government has been highjacked by Neo Nazi's ...difficult to fight well under those conditions.
Want to destroy the world and ya have to get in line these days. Nobody is going to that guy squat. Dude's got no gold.
Russia's bent over a barrel, bleeding its reserves down lower each day. Sweet Jesus, Vlad practically lives on Zero Hedge donations.
kind of like you bent over a table taking it up the ass from kerry?
You forgot to mention Hilary's personal monstrous ribbed dildo.
Kind of like you're next in line to be judo flipped by Vlad.
You silly goose!
I hear the female Russian soldiers are good shots. http://youtu.be/kiUsDIBeLQs
The Russians will never forget Hitler and what they had to do to roll back the Germans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4VtHUJ2-Bo
Really impressive job so far.
Stick to growing sunflowers.
Those crybabies are gonna have there warmongering asses handed to them way before they can learn how to use anything that would make a difference for them.
This propaganda piece by the "Under New Management" Canadian Broadcasting Corporation has hit new lows. The conservative governmant simultaneously cut their bloated budget and installed a new board consisting of their cronies. Those remaining were quick to adjust because protecting their own salaries and entitlements was far more important than reporting unbiased facts.
Yes, typical bs that really shouldn't be repeated except to point out the pyschopathic profile of those we put in charge in Kiev. Those people 'lost' are in the East, and it is Kiev that is killing them and sending most of the rest of the military age people into Russia. So, other than the usual Nazi types we put in power, who will do the fighting? Soon the idiot President will be replaced, perhaps with this idiot... so much like our successful policy in Vietnam with Diem... same game everytime.
The West can supply Ukraine with all the weapons it wants, the rebels will just take them and use it against the government. Doubtful they can find enough boots to put on the ground to further the Oligarch's interests.
Oh my? do they want to really get it on like donkey kong with the Russians? it would be suicide...they cant even handle the novo-Russians.
WWIII is looking like a thing???
The goal is to get Russia drawn in to a Uki invasion. Then Obomber and the Cookie Monster - Icky Vicky Nuland can go full sanctions: transactions and energy
A mate of mine (photo journalist) recons Tony Abbott is compared to a little shit-dog hanging out of Obama's man-purse barking "bad Russia." And you thoght your leaders were cringe-worthy.
A lot of aussies are pretty pissed about hoiw Ukrainians are being drafted and forced at gunpoint to fight their countrymen. The only people whom support the Government are those that depend on contracts and handouts, or MSM'erfied.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! with what weapons? with what soldiers? and mostly, with what money? BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!
so much bullshit-Porky has sent his family out of the country-and he will soon follow-leaving the idiot Nazis/Right Sektor in charge
Soldiers are retreating or deserting in droves-leaving all this new modern equipment behind for the separetists
Dear Vadim,
Please get off the chessboard, you're just a pawn.
Sincerely,
Chandos
Ukrainians want peace?
1. Get the weapons and training.
2. Expel the foreign influence peddlers and western bankers.
3. Hold trials for your illegal DC installed Mandarin government
4. Punish for treason as appropriate
5. Regain control of your country too easy.
Greece wants mo money from the Gubberment, and Ukraine wants mo weapons from the Gubberment. The American people want mo money from the Gubberment, and the American politicians want mo money too. Even Wall Street wants mo money from the Gubberment.
"Everybody funny, now you funny too." GT & The Destroyers
Gosh
if only there wern't so many holes in the back story maybe we'd feel for ya.
Have you considered good behavior as an option?
A perfect article for the Conspiracy Nuts anti U.S. Libtards and Nuclear Scientists that know all about Nuclear War. I may have missed it, but I didn't see any comments about Israel being behind the conflict. Just remember, it's Bush's Fault!
Ukraine wants to join the EU and NATO, and give the US a naval base on the Black Sea, and the only thing stopping them is Putin meddling and throwing their elections to pro-Russia candidates. At least that's the story the State Department got from every Ukrainian they bothered to ask, so they sponsored a coup. Oops!
"How could McGovern lose? Everyone I know voted for him!"
The EU did to Viktor Yanukovych as they did to Greece on Monday. Yanukovych negotiated a deal with EU and when he went to sign it, found it had been changed, so walked away. Before he could explain, the US pushed the 'coup' button.
Here's what they did to Greece Monday; http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41043.htm
At some point, you just have to wonder if the people running this shitshow aren't just batshit fucking crazy. I mean, at least IS has spiritual, prophetic motives for their apocalyptic desires (check out the piece is the new issue of The Atlantic on this topic, if you haven't already), but the Western interests pushing us to the brink of nuclear war are deranged and utterly sociopathic.
Putin sees things "differently" than the West, you say? Surely, he does: he sees that another World War would not end well for anyone.
Don't know that I can believe any of the public official positions vis a vis Ukraine. I mean the American government and political establishment handed over the entire eastern half of the European continent to Joseph Stalin, so that tens of millions could live in terror for another 50 years. Why would an accommodationist State Department and for that matter a DoD apparatus want to risk, if not war, a return to high level tensions? We can't even muster more than a few infantry divisions, and Europe isn't nearly as wedded to the US as post WWII. The US is in no position to face any first rate military, even if it is a degraded Russian military. Serious question
The Ukraine is in collapse-soldiers deserting en masse, money leaving en masse,default looming, the locals DONT want war, and refuse to cooperate...Porky has moved his family abroad, and there is a price on his head-the Nazi/Right Sektor want him out of the way becuase they think he has failed them. With the seperatists are getting the added boon of all the modern weapons, tanks left behind, it will be short work for Russia to reclaim the country with little opposition.
A lesson in gun Control.:
http://www.newsforage.com/2015/02/watch-as-this-gun-toting-pharmacist.html
Extra credit.:
http://wakeupfromyourslumber.com/poroshenko-wants-nato-troops-in-donbass...
Ukies got their tails kicked in a half-scale war. What are they going to do in a "full scale" war?
Ukranians have a death wish and the USA might grant it to them in the hope that they also take Russia with them.
If the whole situation does not make sense to you regarding Ukraine, or even Greece, Libya or Syria then it's because you lack the requisite of evil in your psyche.
Think evil and the whole sorry mess whether it be war, economics, famine etc suddenly begins to make sense.
You sort of got to wonder what all Nuland was passing out in Kiev and to the rest of the players and to whom she is really answering to. I believe that this is the result of final end game of the American Rothschild, after loosing his son and seeing his banking fortune at an unsustainable apex, greed has motivated this one last try at sustaining his growth, by eating Soros.
Read Rothschild vs Rothschild.
The Yoo-Crane War
Backing one side;
The Rothchild's, Soros, Warburgs and Rockefellers...et. al.
Backing the other side;
The Rothchild's, Soros, Warburgs and Rockefellers..et. al.
You sort of got to wonder what all Nuland was passing out in Kiev and to the rest of the players and to whom she is really answering to. I believe that this is the result of final end game of the American Rothschild, after loosing his son and seeing his banking fortune at an unsustainable apex, greed has motivated this one last try at sustaining his growth, by eating Soros.
Read Rothschild vs Rothschild.
achtung
Make no mistake, every word of of every Ukrainian government official --Poroshenko most especially -- was either written by the US State Department or approved by Victoria Nuland before being uttered on to the Kievan record.
From the decision to shell civilian areas in Donbas to bringing down MH17 because the CIA was tricked into believing either it was Putin's plane or he was on it.
All CIA. And NSA. Maybe Obama's signature, but prolly irrelevant.
Because Putin wasn't on the downed plane, NATO's plans had to change from a short, quick undoing of the Crimean Referendum and Annexation to a long, drawn out affair with lots of bombardment, so that when their Dutch accomplices finally release their report with all their manufactured evidence (including the fabrication of the Ukrainian ATC missing tape using real actors) no one will remember that 198 Dutchmen died in the crash.
Certainly not Rutte and Timmermans, who are much more concerned about properly kissing Kerry's ass.
I like Putin but make no mistake, he wil drop a 450kt nuke about 200 meters from my front door. Stupid fucking Harper.
Don't forget that the US had moody's downgrade Russia to JUNK Friday after hours. Shit like that just has to fucking piss my man Putin off even more and allows the world to see what fraud crooked fuckers Amerisrael are.