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10 Reasons Washington Has War Fever
Submitted by Ron Holland via The Daily Bell,
"War is merely the continuation of policy by other means." – Carl von Clausewitz
The political elites, Federal Reserve and special interests that really run the show hiding behind Congress and the president of either party in America's closed two-party monopoly seem to be running scared in many regards. They rightly have many fears for their political future as well as the profits and survival of the major international corporations and banking interests that support the current political leadership and regime.
Never has our nation, corporations and wealthy top 1% faced so many new threats to their efforts to grow their power and wealth around the world. Although there is enough blame and mistakes to go around, many of these threats can not really be blamed on our political or financial leaders but rather result from changes in the fast-paced world we live in today.
Conspiracy theorists prefer to see the world in black and white with no gray areas and keep it simple by criticizing secret groups or powerful interests for every problem but I believe the real situation is far more complicated. But everyone should realize the free America we grew up in has been long dead and buried with only the institutions and slogans remaining to lull the dumbed down public into apathy and acceptance. Our leaders are not omnipotent and certainly do not have all the answers and I suggest they have few answers and are actually making everything up as they go along, hence why I fear they will ultimately choose war as a solution to their problems.
Our America Does Not Exist Any More
Of course, conspiracies exist and thanks to Edward Snowden's publicity, America does indeed operate a global police state with intelligence gathering, torture and spying everywhere in the world. While I believe this effort is more directed toward controlling foreign and domestic politicians and powerful individuals than targeting helpless Americans who disagree with policies, this is a frightening situation for what once was the symbol of freedom and liberty for the entire world.
But as Dorothy told her dog, Toto, in the classic "Wizard of Oz" movie, "I've a feeling we're not in Kansas anymore," we're also not in the America of our Founding Fathers any more, either. Real capitalism and free markets simply do not exist any longer. A few powerful interests manipulate all markets, unlimited fiat money is a profitable franchise and we are attempting to police and control the entire world to maintain our leadership position held since the end of World War Two.
Today you are a fool to trust what the government or press claims is true, fair and balanced, as it's all just propaganda. Regulatory organizations exist only to protect the favored industries not the public, our legal system is a joke and all wars fought for democracy against evil are just looting expeditions against other nations out for profits, gain and natural resources.
All governments issue propaganda and mainstream news organizations sell the secret agendas and policies to the people. But the world today and especially the United States faces new challenges not even war-gamed or focus-grouped a few years ago and here lies the problem and risks for the nation and citizenry.
War May Be the Only Solution Left For Our Political Elites To Survive & Prosper
As Clausewitz so clearly stated, "War is merely the continuation of policy by other means," and our leadership and the special interests behind them want to continue the policies and actions that have created so much wealth and world power for them. Think for a moment about the threats they are facing at home and abroad and how a major but limited war could solve or postpone most of their problems and threats to their powerbase.
There are two problems with the war solution. First, while it may be in their best interest to guarantee their survival, war would be bad for our military, soldiers and civilians as well as our economy, private wealth and remaining liberties. Second, there is no guarantee that a real war once started would remain limited in nature. I think both world wars are historical examples of how plans for limited wars can turn into major wars killing tens of millions and all of this for power hungry politicians and vested economic interests. Remember this classic quote about war:
"No battle plan survives contact with the enemy."
– Helmuth von Moltke, German military strategist
Wars Are Easy To Start and Rally Patriotism But Are Difficult to End
"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."
– Hermann Goering at the Nuremberg Trials
1. Wars can provide a crisis and justification to continue sovereign debt issuance and currency expansion for the duration of the conflict.
2. War would allow the politicians to blame Russia and China for the coming end to the dollar as the world reserve currency as well as the looming dollar and debt crisis.
3. The Federal Reserve and their global central banking cartel have really destroyed the economy of the West through excessive debt issuance, money creation and borrowing. A war would allow the blame to be transferred to the enemy nations for public consumption.
4. War would allow the US to regain control over the European Union, individual European nations and NATO. Today, Germany, France and other nations are wavering in the lockstep support for US policies and war plans in the Ukraine.
5. War would stifle secession movements in Spain and Scotland, Greece and Italy threats to withdraw from the EU and the common euro currency.
6. A war would provide the excuse for the US to reestablish elite control over news and opinion from foreign news organizations and alternative Internet news competition.
7. A war against Russia and Iran would safeguard competition from Russian and Iranian oil and gas delivery pipelines as well as allow us to control Middle East production and continue the Petrodollar system for years to come.
8. As in both world wars, a major war would allow the government to terminate all domestic political movements and adversaries except for "approved" controlled opposition candidates from the two major parties.
9. A successful war against allies of China would delay the global power challenge from a resurgent China for a few years.
10. Finally, during a wartime crisis situation, politicians can always get away with attacks on civil liberties, freedom of the press and wealth confiscation to a degree never possible during peacetime and here lies the ultimate war threat to the majority of the American people. The much hyped and often undercover agent driven fake terror plots designed to keep the citizens living in fear and willing to give up liberties for safety simply does not work any longer now 14 years after 9/11.
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But a real war would provide the crisis excuse to confiscate your gold and "excess" retirement plan and IRA assets, reduce or curtail your social security benefits, dramatically raise taxes and institute total exchange controls while curtailing your remaining freedoms and ability to resist for the duration of the crisis. I'll be speaking on wars, conflicts and why you should have a safe haven residence at the upcoming High Alert Investment Management Conference in May.
I hope I'm wrong about war becoming the solution of choice for Washington's many mistakes and shortcomings. Watch what happens in Syria, Iraq and the Ukraine over the next year and we will likely have the answer. But one of our founding fathers certainly knew better than to allow war or a war crisis to override good leadership and common sense.
"They that would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin
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Well, the US concentration camps are built and staffed (almost 1,000, last I heard), the Muslims are here and increasing, just like Europe, the drought and death of the bees are bringing starvation, and what food is left is radioactive and getting worse. Not to mention GMO cancers are spreading like fire.
Russia won't allow GMO, less nuclear reactors to go boom, few Muslims, I could go on.
Freedom from what?
War?
Every government thug from town collector up to and beyond alphabet soup federal jackboots had better have an MRAP to drive to the grocery store and to pick their kids up from school with if the shit really kicks off.
Anything less and they will be shot, blown up, or torched by heavily armed American insurgents looking for their pound of flesh.
There will not be time for your kind of retribution
There will be nothing but time if real war kicks off.
Americans privately own more guns that the combined armies of China and India, etc. ... (I find it quite difficult to fully imagine those statistics, but nevertheless, if anything those are underestimates.)
Owning vast numbers of weapons is not enough. There has to be a commitment to use them to prevent the criminals running government et al from destroying the country and waging WWIII in YOUR name.
* privately own more guns that the combined armies of China and India *
so what?
I do not know, basho, since there is also an abundance of weapons of mass destruction, which makes all other gunpowder weapons appear trivial by comparison!
And you really think untrained people with hunting rifles (most of whom hate each other due to very effective divide and conquer tactics) are going to be effective against tanks, bombs, and drones?
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"Our America Does Not Exist Any More"
Sorry to drop some Reality on you but your "America" NEVER existed in the first place.
This article could have been written in the late 1930s and it applies as much to USA before WWII as i applies today. What do you think got USA's economy going again after the 1930s crash? Thass right, WWII!
Gimme a breat with those idiotic articles on ZH.
Don't plagiarize me/
Petko, I disagree.
These guys do not know Voenkor, Colonel Cassad (Saker some know).
People like you and me, does have to come here, talk guys pros that if the thing continue in that tune, the end will be insane:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApgVMONx8bU
Slavic always tries to get out of fighting but the challenge is too big.
Patience runs out quickly in recent weeks.
: - /
God help us.
I think we are very close to the nuclear order.
There has been a change since 9/11.
Prior to that event, halcyon America did exist "to an extent." Plenty of evidence for that. Since then, it has been systematically snubbed out and replaced by a progressive, fascist police state. That's where America is today as the elites and assorted madmen running the country march to WWIII in an "all or nothing gambit" to dominate the world in the 21st century.
Even the dumbest cattle in my pasture know that war is the destroyer of blood and treasure. But still a few two leggers in the yard are saying; "war will make us all rich."
I suggest dropping the war kool-ade and taking up a good moonshine for therapy. Tel Aviv much?
Gimme a breat with those idiotic articles on ZH.
amen
Is this article written in the year 2000?
You know we have been engaged in active war since then right? For all intents and purposes its a world war.
In fact the USA has never in its history exceeded 5 consecutive years without being in a war.
Every single person alive today can count the years in which the US was not engaged in a war on both their hands. If you were born after WW2 you can count those years on one hand.
Speculating on whether or not the US will start another war is like speculating on whether or not it will rain in Florida this year... Its not a matter of if its when.
Any planned war of choice will have a series of pros/cons to be weighed up by its advocates. Some of them will be common to all wars, others not so much.
This article simply attempts to list those which are relevant to WWIII, which is on the neo-con "to do" list.
No matter what anyone thinks of it, PNAC is a defacto politico-military strategic reality.
Strategic moves are being continually made and shaped to make it so, not just now, but with how current events will generally play-out 75 years from now. They are not planning on a nuclear war, they are planning on making sure no one can win one. But they are planning on using as much conventional war as necessary to get the result they want in the year 2100.
It could be (and is) dismissed and mistakenly labled a passing 'neocon' agenda, a political transient, and not much more. Or it could be viewed as a broad-based view of a majority of Govt officials, and agencies, who think a new american dominated century would be far better outcome than the alternatives. Rightly or wrongly, they're quite serious about making it turn out that way, no matter who wants to resist.
A NEW AMERICAN DOMINATED CENTRUY BE A FAR BETTER OUTCOME . NAH .I DON'T BELIEVE IN THAT NO MATTER HOW HARD YANK DOUCHEBAGS TRY .
OR it's the standard MO of any empire which sees challenges to its hegemony.
You raise an important point: although this behaviour was originally articulated by the neo-cons thru PNAC etc, it appears to have become the broadly based adopted policy of all relevant agencies of the American State. So when Obola entered the WH, the plan simply continued as it was under Bush. Now we see Wolfowitz has been hired by Jeb Bush to advise him. God help America.
America desperately needs a new foreign policy.
And the 'new policy' will be a re-evaluation of the effectiveness and options of and for attaining the general PNAC aim. Far too many presume Washington is going to fall in a heap, Soviet style, and go away. But that is very unlikely, what they will do is adapt, manipulate and evolve their options to a better set of options and mechanisms for military and political preeminence, as well as a physical distributed capability. Why would the evil-joos not be found in, nor want not to be found operating near the apex of that structure of global America? No way they're going to be opting to walk away from that, so massive political system and media and legal meddling and manipulation are baked-in, implicit, from their perspective, necessary.
The US govt's task is to keep them at arms length, stop them undermining the US Govt and Constitution, but the US Govt is really, reeeally bad at doing that, to date. Basically a complete failure. And terrific damage is rapidly accumulating due to that failure.
"As in both world wars, a major war would allow the government to terminate all domestic political movements and adversaries except for "approved" controlled opposition candidates from the two major parties."
There are an awful lot of gigantic leaps of faith in this article. I mean, sure, the cover of war might theoretically "allow" the government to try a lot of things, but that doesn't mean they're going to succeed. There are a LOT of people in this country, and even more importantly, there are a lot of people in this country who are in a BAD MOOD. The author seems to think that a war would automatically bring the patriotic masses together in some kind of "defend the homeland" moment, but I'm sorry--I don't think so. I think any military action started by the U.S. at this point would bring a lot more Americans together in a "Fuck you, you fucking assholes" moment. More and more Americans are looking for absolutely ANY reason to quadruple their already-seething hatred for the U.S. government, and another bogus war would be just the ticket. The government should be careful what it wishes for...
You may be right. But it's just as likely that any dissent inside the US would be crushed by DHS and militarised LE (absent American people taking on the govt to bring the madness to an end) , both of which have been created and developed over the past few years. This is surely not a development that arose by accident.
Incidents such as Franklin and others could be seen as "dry-runs" for what they expect to happen when WWIII begins abroad and which generate a lot of domestic unrest.
Recent high school grads are all for moar war.
I seriously think you are correct; Americans are totally fed up with the present situation. And NBC/CBS/ABC/WaPo/NYTimes trying to ram the bitch from hell down our throats mav well be the last straw.
Nope you are right. If people don't stop the NWO they will pretty much anihilate all life on this planet.
You say that like its a bad thing. If our future is a boot stomping a human face forever? Then fuck ya Im all for it!
Until you are the one getting booted, then it's no so much fun.
Fukushima and the ones to come have sealed that deal. Bitch about war and politics all you want, all life on this planet is over.
5 generations on the outside, but the journey getting there is going to be horrific.
Russia's population is declining like ours and they're also very worried about Islam.
merica b bad
russia b good
top dog must control all fights
till top dog get clobbered
Today is the anniversary of the burning of the Riechstag. Nothing like that could ever happen here in the great United States, could it?
A Dutch communist, Marinus Van der Lubbe, was arrested near the scene, and subsequently he and four other suspects, including Ernst Torgler, the leader of the Communist group in the Reichstag, were put on trial. The official report of the provisional inquiry showed that the Red group had had "a remarkable number of party meetings in the Reichstag of late, without any reason which could be traced." At Liebknechthaus (the Communist HQ named after a leader of the abortive 1918 revolution), the authorities found lists of a large number of people who were to have been killed or arrested.
Van der Lubbe admitted that he had fired the building and that it was meant to be a signal for revolution. But, he claimed, contrary to expert testimony at the trial, that he had destroyed the building single handed. He stuck to his story, but elsewhere the Reds were spreading the lie that the fire had been started by the Nazis themselves, and that Van der Lubbe was a degenerate half-wit and homosexual prostitute planted on the scene as a "fall guy."
Just two days after the fire the Daily Worker (forerunner of the Morning Star) official organ of the British Communist Party, carried the banner headline "Nazis burn down the German parliament," and went on to state that the "Fascists" had accused the Communist Party of having done it "without a shred of evidence."
Thus was born one of the great myths of modern history - that the Nazis set fire to their own Parliament to provide an excuse for curbing the activities of the Communists. It might be said that some plausibility was given to the myth by the action of President Hindenburg (who was not a Nazi) on the day after the fire. Fearing that another Communist revolution had started, he declared martial law and suppressed Marxist propaganda in Prussia.
More substance was provided for the myth when the old Weimar Constitution was changed by the passing of the Enabling Act, which has been falsely represented as giving dictatorial powers to Hitler. The act had nothing to do with the Reichstag fire, but was a necessary part of the government's program for overcoming the grave social and economic crisis in Germany. Nonetheless, such actions provided hooks on which the anti-Nazi media and politicians could hang their multi-colored coat of lies and misrepresentation which came to be seriously accepted as authentic history.
The trial of Van der Lubbe and the other suspects should have dispelled any suspicion of Nazi guilt. It was a scrupulously fair trial which resulted in the acquittal of all the defendants except Van der Lubbe himself.
Anti-Nazi propagandists, however, were far from being dismayed. They turned their attention on a Brown Book of alleged evidence compiled by communist exiles, and a farcical "counter-trial" which they staged in London which, not surprisingly, found the Nazis guilty.
War- 'I know your working for the CIAaaa- they wouldn't have you in the maf-I-A
song never gets old.....because war never goes away https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGPD0ZBiMs0
Generals gathered in their masses,
just like witches at black masses.
Evil minds that plot destruction,
sorcerers of death's construction.
In the fields the bodies burning,
as the war machine keeps turning.
Death and hatred to mankind,
poisoning their brainwashed minds...Oh lord yeah!
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Agree. But the article conclusion is like Doom Porn.
Maybe I'll go back and read some more.
That song was originally called Heaven and Hell, and the words were completely different.
My soul, It's hard to explian.
A war against Russia ends in nuclear war... so no.
At least it won't be me going. Too old.
It depends, if it is you or the Yale Glee Club and the Harvard Rowing Team it will be you (and moi - although I already did the Vietnam thingy).
Didn't you ever hear of old Russians taking off their clothes and making a final walk across a minefield, to clear it?
They got naked so they wouldn't ruin good clothing.
Your never too old to be a Hero.
Stop whoring for Wall Street.
http://www.showrealhist.com/yTRIAL.html
http://patrick.net/?p=1223928
'we're also not in the America of our Founding Fathers any more'
So true, slavery has been abolished, thank goodness!
What do you call Free Trade with China then?
Maybe you call it creative capitalism.
Maybe you call Decapitalizing the US Industries and shipping jobs to China Creative Destruction.
It is Slave Labor that can never be audited for work performed by people who don't have worker rights like in the USA...whether in Honduras or Guatemala or Costa Rica or China.
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/MANEMP (12 Million down from 19.5 Million) All Employees: Manufacturing
Goods producing Industries:
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/USGOOD (19 Million down from 25 Million) All Employees: Goods-Producing Industries
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/DMANEMP (7.6 Million down from 12.2 Million) All Employees: Durable goods
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/NDMANEMP (4.5 Million down from 7.2 Million) All Employees: Nondurable goods
Durable Goods (problem with data limited):
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CES3133600101 (.8 Mil down from 1.3 mil) All Employees: Durable Goods: Motor Vehicles and Parts
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CES3133400001 (1 mil down from 1.9 mil) All Employees: Durable Goods: Computer and Electronic Products
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CES3133410001 (.16 mil down from .38 mil) All Employees: Durable Goods: Computer and Peripheral Equipment
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CES3133440001 (.4 Mil down from .7 Mil) All Employees: Durable Goods: Semiconductors and Electronic Components
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CEU3132100001 (.37 mil down from .62 mil) All Employees: Durable Goods: Wood Products
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CEU3133200001 (1.45 mil down from 1.75 mil) All Employees: Durable Goods: Fabricated Metal Products
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CEU3133100001 (.4 mil down from .7 mil) All Employees: Durable Goods: Primary Metals
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/CES3133700001 (.367 mil down from .68 mil) All Employees: Durable Goods: Furniture and Related Products
Information Services:
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/USINFO (2.65 Million down from 3.7 Million) All Employees: Information Services
Mining, Drilling, Logging
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/USMINE (Peak was 1981, now .9 Million down from 1.3 Million) All Employees: Mining and logging
Our Country is run by cowardly pussies who are psychopaths.
Their only interest is in protecting/enhancing them selves.
Still looking forward to the day that a nuke erases them forever.
Excellent article in my view. It accurately explains where we are at.
Washington's march to war has begun.
...until Franklin's quote at the end.
Paraphrased ..."those that give up liberty to gain it for a little while deserve none" contradicts what the article was saying. Franklin's quote was aimed at a time of crown loyalists and revolutionaries living in the same time and jurisdiction. Notably a time of black powder being the great equalizer.
If we use that same quote today and allign it with all the theories of the writer...how does it relate?
Is Franklin's quote suitable for a nation of Ukrainians, or Syrians...or just Americans? If it doesn't fit into everyone's siutation than the quote is no longer relevant to the nuclear age.
Does using Franklin's quote in this article imply that Americans should attack the fed, the White House, the Pentagon, or even Ivy League universities to regain our freedoms? That's called suicide, not freedom fighting. Or does it mean Americans need to fight the tyrannies on foreign soil? Was not the aim of the article to warn us about the political elites sabre rattling techniques to start wars?
I don't know why the writer included Franklin's quote. It defeated his argument. Who are we suppose to fight to gain our freedoms?
But do you know why war?
One of the preeminent neocons remembered two important things: that WWII got us out of the Great Depression and that history repeats itself.
Sure. It's also to re-impose US hegemony on the world which is being challenged in recent years.
And of course it will provide cover to steal peoples' money to keep the spending programs going.
Much is missed by a focused article. Like the drive to destroy middle class and wages, partly through illegal immigration.
" Baby boxes, known in some countries as baby hatches or angel cradles, originated in medieval times, when convents were equipped with revolving doors known as "foundling wheels." Unwanted infants were placed in compartments in the doors, which were then rotated to get the infant inside.
Hundreds of children have been surrendered in modern-day versions in place in Europe and Asia. The devices are even the subject of a new documentary titled "The Drop Box," which chronicles the efforts of a pastor in Seoul, South Korea, to address child abandonment."
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20150227/us--baby_boxes-e57413f2de.html
- Today the Elites want grovelling poor to serve them for $50 a week, standard rate in Latin America
Shame on them, Rich Greedy Elites.
I do not think that another major war is likely. Moreover, by all indications, the Russians and the Chinese and the rest of the BRICS nations have been all over this possibility and have long since been taking steps to pull the teeth of the neocon movement.
At this moment, the dollar is already teetering on the edge of oblivion. Any one of a dozen, seemingly small events can trigger a cascade of financial and monetary destruction on the West, and every day that passes, as the Himilayan range of derivitives pushes,ever higher, the monetary system of the Anglo Western Empire grows increasingly fragile, precarious, and tinder dry with paper. The moment is already rapidly approaching --its half-life is already down to weeks now-- in which any given small spark will ignite the Great Conflagration.
And while Washington itself may be clueless, you can bet that the banking population itself is excruciatingly aware of all this. Do these people want to maintain the status quo? Sure they do; but they, perhaps more than anyone else, can see the inevitable approaching in precise detail and, in the final analysis, have probably already cut deals with the ascending powers to ensure their relative health and well being --to the point where they, themselves may light the fatal spark.
How easy would it be to do? At this point, all it would take would be the announcement, from virtually anywhere in the world, that precious metals were becoming hard to obtain... The dollar, relative at first just to gold and silver, would drop to half its value in a heartbeat, while setting off a self-fullfilling feedback loop of shortages. Given that the shortages --at the institutional buying level-- are, in fact real, precious metals will immediately become unavailible At. Any. Price.
Once this happens, the whole world will immediately turn a powerful focus on the hierarchy of commodities in order of economic importance. Currencies will POUR into oil and food and everything in between; anything that someone else (with gold or silver) might be interested in buying, given that gold and silver have thereby become, by definition, 'infinitely' valuable relative to paper money and, in particular, to the US dollar.
Can you wage war without a monetary system? I suppose in a literal sense, well, hypothetically yes. But only briefly. Very briefly. But as we can all now see on a daily basis, the Europeans themselves are steadily pulling away from the US. And NATO, while still technically intact, is nevertheless coming apart at the seams, and, in general, the war drums being pounded today are still a long way from being able to mobilize the masses before monetary history catches up to us.
So will there be war? Absolutely not. The monetary system will be detonated first.
Interesting thesis. And well written... +1
Is that why we have already begun to inflate our way out of debt?
I've been told that precious metals are hard to obtain.
Cash for Gold.
You can find them near any casino or liquor store.
Why is it only Democratic Presidents that do this? Pearl Harbor bailed out FDR, Johnson's Great Society bailed out by "surge" into Vietnam and cover up for JFK killing-(sorry about that but I do believe it). I love this country, the Constitution and the Bill of Rights-NOT the elected people now occupying DC. I served to protect and defend the country not the elected officials. I would appreciate some of you not throwing SH** at the people who serve. Duty Honor Country does mean something.
Sorry... not gonna thank you for being part of the slavemaster's enforcement forces.
I'm pretty sure saying that qualifies you as a zh zionist talmudist evil kike NWO-loving bankster puke, or worse. Remember in future that the zh audience hates ratonal honest assessments, so best ham it up a bit ... OK, so maybe not ham then ...
LMAO!!!
Element,
You're way out of your element.
Whatever next?
You'll you peddling (you're a peddler right?) that these people are not Zionist Talmudists right?
Alan Greenspan
Ben Shalom Bernanke
Janet Yellen
Stanley Fischer
Jacob Lew too!
They are not so secret - and your zionist love-fest is no longer a secret either!
you really ought to get a room with nmewn and do your shit together.
Here, you'll probably recognise this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0dvz07wJEU
Not interested in viewing jootube, but thanks all the same.
Element - you have more than an element of Zionism in your slimey liquid you call blood.
asshole...
no, none, sorry, it's all just your delusion edifice going unmediated again, but thanks for your concern.
a good argument could be made that all 10 of your reasons are really of no practical value and are based on a myopic and naive view of the world today.
1. Wars can provide a crisis and justification to continue sovereign debt issuance and currency expansion for the duration of the conflict.
>>the ussa is doing this right now w/o a full blown war.
2. War would allow the politicians to blame Russia and China for the coming end to the dollar as the world reserve currency as well as the looming dollar and debt crisis.
>>this is BS who cares who is blamed. you've got to eat the results. the world is laughing at the antics of your financial experts.
3. The Federal Reserve and their global central banking cartel have really destroyed the economy of the West through excessive debt issuance, money creation and borrowing. A war would allow the blame to be transferred to the enemy nations for public consumption.
>>this is BS
4. War would allow the US to regain control over the European Union, individual European nations and NATO. Today, Germany, France and other nations are wavering in the lockstep support for US policies and war plans in the Ukraine.
>>DE, FR and the rest of your so called allies are walking away from you. MG where have you been?
5. War would stifle secession movements in Spain and Scotland, Greece and Italy threats to withdraw from the EU and the common euro currency.
>>this is BS. it may instigate them as nations strive to get out of harms way. no one trusts the ussa anymore.
6. A war would provide the excuse for the US to reestablish elite control over news and opinion from foreign news organizations and alternative Internet news competition.
>>first off, does it need an excuse. 2nd how much foreign news do you listen to? 3rd most of the western presss is russophobic right now. suggest you read some of it.
7. A war against Russia and Iran would safeguard competition from Russian and Iranian oil and gas delivery pipelines as well as allow us to control Middle East production and continue the Petrodollar system for years to come.
>>this is BS. you think that RU and IR are not going to fight back. the petro$$ is toast.
8. As in both world wars, a major war would allow the government to terminate all domestic political movements and adversaries except for "approved" controlled opposition candidates from the two major parties.
>>now this is something you should be concerned about. the ussa will go into lockdown. you won't be able to fart w/o permission
9. A successful war against allies of China would delay the global power challenge from a resurgent China for a few years.
>>this is BS. the next war will not be any more successful than the last 1/2 dozen the ussa has been in. and in this case you won't be dealing with goat herders and small arms. these folks can shoot and they can toast your ass while you're watching it happen on CNN
this is really a naive and myopic analysis. PolySci 101: failed
tic toc
time to wake up bumpkin.
Tic toc will not wake anyone up.
You need that BRRRRRIIIINNNNNGGGGG!!!!
"I went to an ISIS public execution .... and a Ponzi scheme broke out !" .... Monedas 1929 Comedy Jihad World Tour
What are you going to do when 61% of the citizens of the US have bought the ISIS bullshit and think we need to go back over there. They never fucking learn. Invading Ukraine has not become an issue yet. One fuck up at a time.
The US is leaderless .... Obama is a Muslim Jihadist .... we have no representation .... but, yes we have banana republic corruption !
Önly the US has war fever ? We are all in the Ponzi Pyramid .... just like those Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghrab .... one yank on our dog leash .... and it "assholes and elbows" .... every man for himself !
Well, we are top dog in the pyramid .... the others below may cushion our fall .... hey, not everyone can generate the biggest, world wide Ponzi .... certainly not Zimbabwe ! LOL That the whole stupid socialist world had so little going for it we were able to build a Ponzi (proud Italian American name) around the stupid fucks .... shame on their sorry asses .... there was a vacuum .... and we filled it with the fiat they lusted .... and still lust for .... the lust for the unearned .... perfect con !
With regard to all out war there is a Black Swan variable that maynot have been considered: EMP.
EMP Strike
Question: Will there be a 'recovery' from EMP attack?
When people talk about this topic, especially when addressing it in quantitative terms, they always discuss a theoretical event which ignores or fails to appreciate the context of why there's an EMP strike occurring at all, and what else will be occurring in parallel.
As a result analysts, writers, bloggers and MSM tend to frame it in terms of a serious area threat but one that is manageable, painfully and terribly disruptive, yes, but a recoverable shock of limited effectiveness and limited in regional scale.
That is thoroughly wrong for many rather obvious reasons.
I suspect most of the befuddlement stems from them thoroughly confusing of EMP attack effects and recovery options with theoretical E3 geomagnetic storm effects and recovery.
These are not the same thing, they are not even the same effects (though some are), they have radically different implications and outcomes, and they could not be more different in terms of potential recovery - which I will make painfully clear.
A geomagnetic storm is much more benign, it may be global but it is an 'E3' EMP effect, which is a physical distortion and displacement of Earth's magnetic field lines. Moving a magnetic field in that way induces the release of electrons, which are then preferentially conducted in cables and thus into 'Earth' (i.e. it is electrically 'earthed'). You can observe these storms forming, they are not instantaneous, it takes time for them to build, so you can obtain advance warning and make switching changes to reduce many of the damaging effects. A country can and in fact would recover from a solar induced EMP storm.
But nuclear weapon EMP is much more dangerous and quite impossible to manage or contain, for many reasons. The EMP from a very large high altitude nuke can also distort the earth's magnetic field simply by the enormous scale of the thermal fireball rising through the field lines and rapidly dragging them out of their usual position and causing them to quiver and 'ring' from the insult. Like a guitar string vibrating within the magnetic field of a pickup coil, this also produces a copious supply of induced electrons.
That likewise is an 'E3' EMP effect, just like a geomagnetic storm can induce.
But nuclear EMP also comes in the much more insidious and dangerous forms as well, as an almost instantaneous release of an immediate 'E1' pulse, on detonation, which moves outwards at ~90% the speed of light. Plus a slightly delayed 'E2' pulse which follows right behind it. So nuclear is a 1, 2, 3, combined hit that follow on from each other (over several minutes). And not only this, but any real EMP attack will involve literally dozens of 1, 2, 3 hits spaced over a period of hours, days, weeks, and months which follow the initial devastating opening strikes.
E1 is a sudden release of elections via the gamma rays escaping from the exposed expanding weapon core smashing the electrons off the atoms in the upper atmosphere. It's like a giant 'E3', except that instead of the insult being spread over minutes or hours the rise-time to peak is almost instantaneous. it is the E1 which instantly fries digital computers and integrated circuits and electric motors and automated control systems. Plus it weakens, degrades and or softens-up all remaining electronic systems which did not instantly fail, so that the following E2 and E3 will in fact stand a much better chance of frying it too. So E1 is incredibly, and instantly and permanently damaging. There is no warning, you can not prevent it, you can not manage it, and in operating practice, you can not minimise it either.
E2 is slightly slower and behaves more like billions of simultaneous lightning strikes hitting all exposed above ground electrical conductors. As most power systems are designed to cope will electrical storms, the E2 pulse would ordinarily be much less damaging. Except for one thing, th E1 has already massively shocked and undermined all remaining electrical infrastructure, heated it, scorched it, shorted it and stressed it to the point of electrical failure, then a fraction of a second later the E2 bolt out of the blue arrives and belts it hard again. Consequently a lot of the remaining electrical components likewise will fail from the E2 insult.
Then the E3 pulse builds up over the minutes that follow as the fireball rises and resistive heating from excess electron flows to earth heat, melt and burns the cables and power grid, destroying the network's infrastructure and causing thousands of fires in thousands of buildings, from the melting and exploding electrical equipment.
Because the E1 has already destroyed the ability to operate an electrical switches that could disconnect and isolate systems to manage the damage, a nuclear E3 can not be mitigated or managed at all. If the weapon yield(s) are very high, then it will relentlessly fry and burn the entire electricity generation and distribution network.
And this will not happen just once, this will all happen again and again, maybe a dozen times in the first hour. Maybe 50 times in the first week. It will be done again and again to make sure every bit of electrical infrastructure and operating electronics is destroyed, plus to cumulative catch out anyone using a backup or emergency supply, or survival mechanisms that were in storage, such as generators, and solar panels, etc.
The attacker intends to make sure the government, its military and civilians and even remote survivalists have no electrical system that still works. They will make numerous follow-up intense EMP attacks for months to make sure they have rendered unserviceable 99.999% of electrical systems on the continent.
This is Strategic Total War. The attacker intends to make sure you have nothing left, and that you have no chance whatsoever to ever recover either the state, your military power, or economic capacity. They intend to either make you die, or to completely disarm and surrender - in order to live - and they are fully ready to ensure you die, if you do not surrender. In fact, they may prefer that.
That is inevitably going to be the nuclear attacker's Strategic imperative.
So a recovery from EMP attack is not even on the cards, it's simply not going to happen until at a minimum the attacker has invaded and secured all nuclear weapons hardware and materials, destroyed all deliver systems and their production capabilities and removed all of it and personnel from your totally ruined country - which the attacker will now occupy, colonise, pillage and completely annex and dominate. The attacker must do that or they run the risk of being attacked in kind if you do recover and remain sovereign. The only way to prevent that is to invade and annex your country.
It is only understanding that which provides realistic understand as to the nature of such an attack and the potential for a rapid recovery. The rapid recovery people talk about is a bizarre and thoroughly unrealistic myth. Nothing like it will ever happen.
Fortunately there are not many countries which could pull-off such a strategic EMP attack with any confidence. Realistically it's the US and Russia which have the numbers of weapons and the numbers of missiles that could do it, plus also (simultaneously) defang other nuclear powers in order to prevent them from retaliating in kind once they see the unprecedented barbaric act of pre-emptive genocide they've just witnessed.
If they saw that the remaining nuclear powers would feel compelled to counterattack the original attacker, or else they might do it to them as well. Plus they must be punished for premeditated pre-emptive mass-murder, so the original attacker would understand this is going to occur, so it must act first to take out any opponents to their genocidal attack.
Only the US and Russia could hope to have the necessary clout to do that to the other nuclear powers, simultaneously, and demand they immediately surrender, or face a total wipeout attack on its cities. In other words, if Russia or US launched an EMP attack they would also necessarily need to trigger a global pre-emptive attack, and must retain enough reserves to hit any other actor that attempted to hit them back.
Which means they would have to be VERY READY, VERY CAPABLE, AND VERY DISCIPLINED to do that, or else they're taking a huge risk of total failure. It would be a very desperate act. And that would be the act of a mad man (guess who .. well, take your pick!), or a mad woman (yeh, no need to mention her name, you can guess the suspect).
We know such mad and violent leaders do exist, we have seen them, in the flesh, in our life times, and there's an endless stream of them over the past two centuries, so we do know that militaries they command will use nuclear weapons on a civilian city, because we've seen exactly that done, all too easily, in the past, on two occasions already.
So it's unfortunately not out of the range of our known observed range of possibilities that such mad people, who do obviously exist today, or else mad collectives, will in fact do this to civilisation, one day. Just look around at the nutters in this time!
Surely, those two ingredients, and hubris, and desperation, and enormous miscalculation, will come together, at some point. In fact it is entirely within the bounds of realistic possibility for it to happen later this year. We have two quite mad 'Leaders', we have the necessary weapons and readiness, we have military conflict between the proxies of the two most likely to do it, both pointing their nuclear gun at each other's head, and we have growing strategic desperation and wildly erratic and impulsive actions on both sides, a thorough lack of trust, and a good dose of paranoia.
All the pre-requisite ingredients are in place.
So it's a bit disappointing to see/read/discuss EMP attack because the discussion often results in the same tired denial of empirically measured catastrophic nuclear EMP testing reality. We know the effect is real, that it will occur, that it will be devastating over regional distances (see NOTE 1's link if you doubt), and we know it's incredibly dangerous to any electronic civilisation, and especially to an electronic digital computer based civilisation. Yet supposedly educated people still use daft irrational derailing 'arguments' about Faraday cage protection, circuit breakers, and how you can just 'unplug' to avoid the impulse damage to PCs and TVs, fridges, and similar complete rubbish, used in order to avoid and deny the reality of the situation, which is that all of these are ALWAYS plugged into al least one cable, at all times, and are virtually always on. No one ever unplugs, and you definitely will not know an EMP attack is coming and you definitely will not beat an E1 pulse to the outlet.
Nevertheless, people keep using such brainless 'reasoning' to ignore the fact that they have no chance at all of ever surviving a full-scale EMP attack and the full-scale thermonuclear bombardment coming in right behind it.
And they are certainly not interested in the fact that the only possible chance for 99.999% of so-called 'survivalists' to survive such an attack it in fact for them to get off their apathetic self-satisfied arse and demand the conditions in which it is no longer possible to happen. Faraday cages provide almost zero protection against EMP in operating hardware, due to the intrinsic cable-based interconnectedness of its operational status, hence you can completely forget about an earthed Faraday cage protecting it. And how exactly are people comforted by a metal cage around a car's electrics if both the cable-connected and computer-connected fuel pumps at the garage are fried, and the financial institutions backing your fuel card is not able to communicate with any one, and the refinery has already exploded in flames? Well, that's the level of cognisance the topic of EMP attracts.
The very suggestion that no recovery or any kind will be coming after a concerted EMP pulse attack is a bridge too far for some, but nevertheless it would turn out to be so. People really do think EMP is just like a bad geomagnetic storm but hopefully by now you can see that they are entirely different situations. One you can readily plan for (although this is also not actually being sufficiently done), manage and recover from, and the other you can not adequately plan for, and you certainly will not be recovering from it, and its not clear if your children will be recover from it, either.
EMP attack is almost always downplayed and underestimated in completely unwarranted ways, using unfounded reasoning, and the electronic and systemic destructiveness of such an attack is very rarely admitted to by official documents and authorities.
That may be intentional to some extent as the big nuclear powers won't want a potential EMP attacker to think it could actually work and be so successful. The big power has much more to lose. They also won't want a potential attacker to think they could largely get away with such a strike so the US media and commentators tend to postulate a 1-year electronic system recovery myth whereupon a very pissed off superpower then goes after the evil attacker with all the barbarous intent they can muster, etc.
But it is in fact mostly complete nonsense, there will not be no progressive optimistic recovery back to former power, quite the reverse will occur, in practice.
Most technical discourses on the topic of EMP attack on the US or Europe, usually discuss the effects of a single modest-sub-optimal yield fission bomb fired by an unidentified rogue state with no warning.
WHICH IS A THOROUGHLY UNREALISTIC STARTING-POINT FROM WHICH TO BEGIN ANY SUCH 'RECOVERY' ANALYSIS.
Sadly, an EMP attack is vastly more likely to come from a direct strategic rival which is technically proficient, capable and competent, well-trained, motivated and disciplined and has an abundance of hardware required to make a massed EMP attack, simultaneously, on multiple continents, and to employ as many as 20 EMP optimised 2-stage high-yield warheads in the first wave, to maximise E3 resistive thermal damage and massively disruptive sudden large fires and explosions in numerous completely unexpected locations.
The likely development of any real EMP attack is a much darker and nastier affair. There are really only two possibilities and their unavoidable imperatives in making such an attack:
(1) The potential attacker decided not to attack at all and plays nice.
or;
(2) The attacker launches a pre-planned full-scale simultaneous synchronous pre-emptive EMP decapitation strike, using at least two very rapid-fire launch waves, with two to three initial warheads per continent from submarines in the first wave, to assure total surprise and devastation in the first strike. Then a follow up with a much larger second wave strike within another two minutes, then a third wave within 5 minutes. Then keep hitting in the same way about every hour or two, so that anything electronic that had survived and is subsequently switched on and connected to a cable is subsequently knocked out too. Continue to attack randomly once or twice per week, without relent, and do not allow any opportunity for nation-state based organised recovery to take place until you have invaded and colonised the continent.
That is by far a more likely starting point for any discussion about recovery from nuclear EMP strike.
If the original attacker failed to follow-through with option (2) it would invite an eventual revenge counterstrike, and the likely total destruction of the original attacker, if the attacked state were ever permitted to recover. It would require at least a partial invasion after a couple of years, once most of the local population were dead, to prevent any residual military element from eventually making a retaliatory counterattack.
So you can very safely discount the bumbling MSM myth of almost full nationwide recovery occurring just 12 to 24 months after an initial EMP attack, because no such attacker is ever going to allow that to take place.
Occasionally the full scope and horror of nuclear EMP is fairly clearly admitted to, and even laid out in detail within and official but unclassified civil government report, and the following link is to just such a report, one of the best sources on the topic of current day measured real-world EMP effects, and their compounding and contributing factors:
Report of the Commission to Assess the Threat to the United States from Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack - April 2008.
The information in that report remains fully applicable to present circumstance, so download it and spend a couple of days reading and digesting the implications. It's particularly informative due to many experimental tests performed in support of its findings, using a full-scale EMP simulator to test a wide range of commonplace digital computers, digital (remote) control systems, communications networks, cables and associated major infrastructure enabling technologies in widespread use, in 2015.
In every case of the EMP simulation tests performed, they all produced an observable and describable system transient or else a permanent malfunction, and either a partial control failure, or else a total system failure. This occurred in every piece of vital national digital electronics infrastructure that was tested in this study. Not everything permanently failed, some of it could be restored to full or partial operation, especially radios, and even some stand alone laptop mobile computers, but only if they were not connected to anything else, not even to a power source, when exposed to the EMP illumination.
NOT EVEN ONE OF THESE TESTED SYSTEMS OR TECHNOLOGIES, CURRENTLY IN WIDESPREAD USE ACROSS THE USA AND EUROPE PASSED THIS EMP PULSE TESTING WITHOUT SOME FORM OF ELECTRICAL OR LOGIC DAMAGE, AND SYSTEM FAILURE OCCURRING - MANY SYSTEMS REQUIRED PARTIAL OR COMPLETE REPLACEMENT.
The salient fact here was the EMP conditions simulated, "... occurred at the lower end of this scale", of the typical EMP field strengths from a high altitude regional EMP. Which is to say the experimental tests simulated conditions of the outer periphery of an EMP affected area from a high-altitude detonation.
Some quotes from the above linked PDF document:
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So, in a nutshell, the measured prompt E1 pulse field strength on the ground from actual high altitude nuclear EMP tests have been observed to typically fall into the range of 20 kV/m to 40 kV/m over large regional areas, and to rarely exceed 50 kV/m.
Consequently it must be expected that 90% of all modern digital computer electronics and integrated chip dependent circuits will suffer permanent damage and requiring replacement, or an attempt to operate via other means without such equipment. A computer hard-wired to almost anything via cable will almost always became immediately damaged at even very low field strengths, consistent with being on the outer most periphery of an EMP exposed region.
In other words we can expect that every economic interaction and financial transaction will cease until every computer in the region, and every router, and every wire cable, and every comms tower, and every power supply in the national digital financial and economic infrastructure has been removed, remanufactured and replaced.
Solar panels are also effectively large integrated circuits, so will also short out than be fried, as will be their attached inverters, relays and the now probably destroyed and melted gel-cell batteries. Same goes for generator coils in wind turbines. A stored away generator may work until the fuel runs out, or until local authorities notice it and commandeer it, or a late follow-on EMP strike finally fries it.
It is not clear such a system wide failure could be recovered from under ideal circumstances let alone within the mutual compounding chaos that would predictably result from virtually assured 100% impact on all vital electronic modern infrastructure and to anything containing computer chips or attached to a wire cable.
EMP attack is merely an essential precursor to a full-scale thermonuclear attack, that will follow within minutes of any EMP strike. This will be occurring in the context of an actual nuclear war.
Hundreds of military bases and cities and industrial production sites, and Government authorities, will be systematically eliminated within the first 24 hours following an initial EMP strike commencement.
EMP attack is not fiction, it's not exaggerated, it is however empirically observed, measured and repeatably tested, and the implications of it are far worse than you've ever been told.
We also know from these recent experiments that almost nothing effective has ever been done about EMP vulnerabilities. In fact the Commission's report goes on to make it acutely clear that rather than the EMP threat diminishing over time, via better designs, materials and engineering, it has in fact been steadily growing ever since the effect was observed and systematically measured during atmospheric high-altitude tests in 1962.
Can you now hazard a guess why the Government doesn't even seriously bother to do anything significant about reducing EMP vulnerability today? Yup, if we do ever find ourselves on the receiving end of an EMP attack, it's because we're already in a full-scale nuclear war. So why bother electrically protecting what's going to be nuked anyway, in just a few more minutes time? Now it becomse clear why Governments, via their complete inaction over the whole topic, reveals that they believe 'managing' or 'recovering' from an EMP attack is pie-in-the-sky.
The Governments know that if your country suffers an EMP attack that country is going to cease to be. And why would such an EMP strike always be a full-scale attack, rather than partial attack? Would any country's military consider attacking the US or Europe, with a partial EMP attack? No! That would be totally suicidal.
So if you want to remain alive you have to go all-out and nail your enemy completely, and immediately, with incredible levels of EMP overkill.
So it's very safe to presume that any EMP attacks will always be a maximum effort attack, with no warning of any kind, when you're least ready for it or able to respond adequately. So it can be expected that any initiated attack will most likely come from a very large nuclear power, and will be (at least initially) massively successful at overwhelming the target state(s). It will instantly enfeeble any great military power rendering organised countering responses almost unachievable or much less efficent, except via unaffected independent submarine-based retaliatory strikes, when it's already far too late to nationally survive, or expect the state to be able to recover.
So if that occurred it would be completely unlike the usual limited-case examples that are often discussed within theoretical discourses on the subject of nuclear EMP attack.
It could easily involve at least 25 dedicated EMP strikes within the first hour alone, over two or three continents with maybe 50 or so high altitude detonations occurring during the first 24 hours, and at least 100 occurring during the first year after the initial strike.
THERE WILL BE NO CONTINUITY OF GOVERNMENT.
That whole concept is unworkable, unrealistic and a fantasy within such circumstances, as some remnant reserve nuclear force will continue to be used by the attacker to make sure that the enemy Government can never rise again. The attacker must necessarily ensure the population will rapidly lose national focus and will die back to almost nothing.
After the resulting much diminished second an third generation of children after the initial attack, they will not even understand what occurred, nor what had formerly existed, or how their parents had lived.
The winner writes the history of war, and guess what it will say?
Every effort will be made by the attacker to ensure the 'evil efforts' to rebuild their technological industry fails. After one or two such failures by the 'evil ones', there will be no more attempts made and attrition and 'justice' will overtake the evil remainder, etc.
Question that if you want, periodic EMP attacks will only stop once the attacker has already successfully depopulated, sickened and invaded what remains. The 'evil' enemy country and its evil government will never be seen or heard from again - that's a given. The evil continent will be invaded and taken-over after it can offer no more effective or organised resistance. The attacker will then secure any residual viable nuclear weapons materials, facilities and delivery capabilities and the remnant evil population will be colonised by their attacker.
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NOTE 1: EMP flux intensities and areas predicted to be affected have been precisely described and characterised plus physically modelled within a declassified LLNL paper, published in 1986, which matches actual measurement of EMP high-altitude atmospheric nuclear tests results from Operation Fishbowl in 1962, to within 1 to 2% of actual measurements.
Due to Earth's geomagnetic field shape and geometry the EMP field strengths (at the ground) are greatest in the regions in between the tropic(s) and polar circle(s). Equatorial and tropical zones will experience reduced EMP effects and field strengths due to geomagnetic field lines running almost parallel to earth's surface near the equator. So the temperate latitudes (where the bulk of humanity lives) will suffer the highest electronic damage levels from concerted EMP attack.
In other words, the physical mechanisms and transmission have been identified and are known, and the observed effects and scale of these effects are documented and the predicted areas affected and character of any particular yield and altitude combination for EMP pulse can be fairly accurately replicated within laboratory and field-scale testing for EMP attack simulation experiments on operational present day hardware and systems.
Most of the formal technical details needed to model and simulate EMP flux and the areas affected are found within:
"Justification and Verification of High-Altitude EMP Theory, Part 1.", Longmire, Conrad L., Theoretical Note 368., Mission Research Corporation, LLNL, June, 1986.
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NOTE 2: The whole 'recovery' myth is what the State and it pop-media tells you in order to keep us calmed down and mollified. There's no second chances, you and your country have one chance only and it is NOW. There will not be another. You will not be surviving this, any preparations you have made will not be sufficient to meet the unexpected and unceasingly genocidal reality that will confront you. Your emergency survival wonder technologies that use electrons and all of the things which you've worked for and planned hard to acquire in order to get you thorough to the other side of this imaginary 'recovery phase' will not get you through to the normal restoration of services. Sorry, it's just not going to happen. At best, most survivalists will manage to hold on until the second winter. The objective of the nuclear war is not to make your country surrender. The attacker's and colonisers objective will necessarily be to ensure that the most able 'survivalists' and fighting groups will not survive long, nor remain fighting fit. Their intent will be to sure you do not survive, and to mop you up as they invade. Sorry to break it to you but ...
YOUR ONLY REAL CHANCE OF SURVIVAL IS TO ENSURE A NUCLEAR WAR NEVER HAPPENS.
Once ensconced in your ugly smelly little bunker, with your guns, knives, cans of spam, wind up torch and the multifunction all-purpose tool thing, and that ever yawning chasm of unbridgeable hatred and fear, which now exists between you and all other human beings, you're going to wish you'd been a little more pro-active about making sure it didn't turn out this way.
Too late.
It's okay. I have a surge protector power strip.
Rest easy little one, you're going to be A-OK.
I'm not bright enough to get the science behind it - but never considered the strategy angle analysis given. I don't buy the basically game over if it happens outcome. People survived a lot longer without the grid than with it. it can be done and some undoubtedly will survive the worst case - certainly fewer if you also have to survive the next phase of the attacker as you set it out. from where I sit - it's not a stinking bunker - it's self sufficiency within a modest size community with the necessary compliment of skills. where I live in bumfuk rural land - we're pretty near that anyway. If I went down anyway - well - you give it a go and whatever.
BTW- I can reload in the dark since you're the brain - will the Faraday cage withstand the hit and I hear ya on the follow on hits
I didn't paint it as 'game over' though, I mentioned a second the third generation of survivors above, so not game over, by any means.
But for the state, economy, and the prior situation and almost all modern technology, it is pretty much game over, for a few decades (some will be fine with that though). At least until re-colonized by a country that survived far better with far more technical capacity remaining.
A Faraday cage only has a chance to protect the internals if the equipment is disconnected from all cables and basically stored away switched off. However, there's also a high free-field charge in the air, which are free electrons scattering at high density wanting to go to earth an reduce their mutual repulsion when flowing in metals. So those electrons will try to infiltrate any electrical circuit and make their way to 'earth', at very high amperes. That free-field electron potential can still cause damaging arcing in protected equipment that's not connected to cables. This destructive free-field effect's potential was tested at levels in the lower to mid range of typical of EMP free-field levels, and partial or total system failures still occurred in 100% of operating tests. However, many disconnected radios tended to survive that testing and even some stand alone laptops tended to keep working after a reboot from moderate free-field levels.
So there's no clear-cut answer. The protection of a Faraday cage will be a lot better than no Faraday cage. Bottom line is, don't rely on any shielded, protected disconnected stored electrical device to work after even one strategic EMP pulse. Let alone a dozen of them. I'd presume they won't work. Perhaps if buried deeply in the ground and away from metallic conductors they will survive OK.
However, it was observed in actual nuclear testing in the early 1960s that induction due to the delayed E3 effects, melted a 1.2 m deep buried electrical cable's insulation, at about 1,500 km range from the detonation point, and the junction and switching gear boxes for the cable blew up and burned. So even appreciable burial doesn't guarantee protection if enough metal is involved.
Our best bet is to not let it ever get that far. Keep in mind that the highest probability of attack comes from a totally unexpected surprise pre-emption from a big power with nuclear weapons, using high performance nuclear subs, with fast-rising ballistic missiles. Many ballistic missiles have been developed specifically for this reason to boost and accelerate much faster into space to reduce burn time and avoid the possibility of early detections and the time needed for an effective interception to take place, before an EMP nuke detonates. Hence new SAM systems like THAAD. But a sub's attack plan would get around that possibility via launching several missiles and progressively detonating them as they rise up, so the SAM systems are blinded by these early lower-altitude more localized pulses which enable the remaining warheads to reach their maximum damage altitude.
Basically, a big power can not be stopped if they are determined to make such an attack. They'll do it when least expected and national defensive systems are already degraded.
i.e. a strong geomagnetic storm itself would be terrific cover for such an attack due to over the horizon radar degradation and blindness plus satellite disruption that could degrade alert level and greatly extend defensive response times amid the confusion. If a country wants to attack in that way they will succeed, at least initially.
So as long as strategic-yield thermonuclear weapons exist in any such arsenal that can produce a vast E3 distortion from a huge fire ball expanding and rising through earth's geomagnetic field lines, human civilization will metaphorically continue to hang from a cliff by its finger nails.
Thanks for that. Fair enough on the survival aspect.
Faraday - yea I just bought as many back up circuit laden items for systems as I could which are in old micro waves on an underground root cellar. don't even ask my my tin foil wraps. But you have me thinking on follow hits in a scenario. Hmm. good one
Since the lunatics that might do this are not something in my or anyone else's control - I try and work on something I can which is what to do After the One Second. You get a different mind set when rural The biggest worry is really the unprepared urbanites roaming. i'd bet the survival rate of the aftermath - barring an outside force coming in - within 50 miles of me would very very high. I think the urban food situation would just be hell and ugly beyond description.
Then again - if it's just me and my neighbours - it might be best to just say f*k it - no on would want to live like that!
'The winner writes the history of war' Ha! That's rich, because when it comes to a nuclear war there are no winners, except maybe the cockroaches 10 million years after.
You're forgetting, not all countries will be destroyed or polluted by high or even mid level fallout, and many will not be combatants at all, and many of them won't even have a nuclear reactor remaining to melt down. So some countries will see relatively mild changes beyond economics, international trade collapse and a lot less energy flow. They will survive, they will be the 'winners', and colonizers, they will write the history they want.
Aren't the Russians on their way to a version of EMP with their use of 'Khibiny" on the USS Donald Cook (if their account of the events is true?)
If 'Khibiny' was true but wasn't EMP, what was it and can the country that developed it contrive a way when they used it that their electronics and communications would not be affected during hostilities?
Don't buy into anything the Russian trolls assert, reality is always very different.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-02-11/putins-top-security-advisor-cur...
who knows what happened to the Donald Cook that day on the Black Sea?
the Russians told their side of the story
the Pentagon never denied it and never told their side.
Argumentum disregardum is a tough one to beat.
tldr
The ultra wealth have homes in the southern hemisphere. They figure they'll make piles of money from massive destruction and rebuilding. It's all about their portfolio.
Keynes .... broken windows .... for the rich glaziers to fix .... where is the New Socialist Order we've been promised for 200 years .... FORWARD CAPITALISM .... it always works .... for everyone !
Viet Nam was called the "rich man's war, poor man's fight." Nothing changes.
Forget rebuilding. The energy infrastructure, everywhere, will have been bombed into oblivion. As a matter of fact, the industrial world will be dotted with fresh Fukushimas. As Einstein remarked: the next war will be fought with sticks and stones. Stone Age ahead.
Of this much, I am certain: there is no going back. The Old Republic is dead, and cannot be resurrected. The bedrock of our civilization has turned to sand. Anything we build on it will topple.
We must find new ground.
It's not sand, it's bullshit.
You must dig down through the bullshit to find bedrock.
The question is, what to do with all the bullshit?
I could use some for my tomatoes. The rest I could give to my neighbor, who also seems to thrive on that sort of thing.
Now you know why "Personel Dept" was changed to "Human Resourses"?
It really changed by small degrees to ER employee relations, to HR human relations, to HR human resources.
Now we are just a resource, like coal, oil, gas, timber, iron...
Property, to be purchased, sold, or disposed of.
Just guessing 1-8 are jooooos, and 9 and 10 are gmo and glyphosate?
Oh shit I left out chemtrails!
Seriously. These are the same right-wing fucknuts who all blogged and protested FOR the Afghanistan and Iraq wars but who are now falsely claiming Obama and the joos are trying to start moar wars and that it's all their fault.
What fucking parents basement do these fucktards come from?
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Dems = Repubs = Dems = Repubs
Dems complain that wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were costly, useless, missionless actions (which they were). Repubs all in.
Dems want war on ISIS, Libya, Egypt, Syria, Ukrainian rebels and if we weren't too busy we would be heading back to Yemen but all of these actions aren't costly, useless, or missionless. Repubs all in.
Deutch Welle reports following a convoy of materials from a NATO base, delivered to ISIS. Crickets heard in the US Congress.
Hey magnificently stupid article. 1. The modern world of the internet and global transport improvements created the world we live in. Shove the conspiracy theories up your nose there is plenty of room where your brain should be. Now that you know what actually happened where do you want live? Russia, China, Iran? Of course you can never blog again. Your daughter will probably be "honor raped" or sold. Banking? Really you want to put gold under your mattress until they take that away as well. How about suing your business partner or anyone who you think "wronged you" Sorry check with Sharia law first and then pay off the judge and wait 10 years. Yup the devepoped world really sucks while you sit there and suck it all up and bellyache. There are cheap tickets to Iran right now hop on board, no one wil miss you here.
How's that beer can collection of yours coming along?
Criticism of the West's behaviour towards Russia or China does not mean you support, still less want to live in those countries.
Yours is an extraordinarily stupid argument.
$1 $5 $10 $20 $100...
Wear your shackles while cursing the day you said - we trust all people to not attack us - wake up - you are in an angry world and most of the world populations hate us, not for making war but for trying to foster peace.
Yes I do support one thing Rand Paul has said - get out of all the counties we are interfering with and bring all our troops home - BUT take down anyone that is trying to harm us - in the most determined and aggressive way and seal our damn borders against illegal entry.
If push does come to shove - I will be able to survive like the poor goat herder living a simpler lifestyle - I can do without the I-crap, tv, and controlling government.
Bravo! Like minded.
Sounds good, but what will Rand Paul do with hundreds of thousands of jobless veterans on the dole? Offer them free philosophy courses? Or art school?
Unforeseen consequences, bitchezzz...
I did not say that I wanted Rand Paul as Commander in Chief. The military that are brought home can begin by defending our borders against the Mexican and latin american cartels. By the time we get our house in order, we will have downsized the military to a reasonable size - future wars will not need boots on foreign soil.
"future wars will not need boots on foreign soil."
Who said anything about need? The United States government LIKES to put boots on foreign soil!
Give them jobs Kent-stating harmless kids.
How exactly was destabilizing Iran "making peace"? Unless you mean piece for Western oil companies.
You might ask Sen. Rand which of those two statements he actually supports because they are diametrically opposed concepts at their core.
The US is on the same path as 1930's Germany. The only good news is that the Obummer does not possess a tenth of the communicative and inspirational ability that Hitler had.
"...all wars fought for democracy against evil are just looting expeditions against other nations out for profits, gain and natural resources..."
If you (author) think this is a new situation, you're mistaken. Since the beginning of man it's been true. The difference between now and before is that before no one pretended it was for the public good.
Expansion of domestic police organizations, contraction of the military, and seizure of control of the means of communication and domestic healthcare while massively importing people from places supportive of totalitarian control are activities fundamentally incompatible with expeditionary war plans.
More police will be useless in a foreign war.
Smaller military is counter productive in a foreign war.
Stfling domestic speech and assuming expensive healthcare are at best neutral to foreign wars, at worst a distraction.
Importing foreigners without ties of loyalty is a suicidal importation of a fifth column in a foreign war.
But if your war is against the native population these actions all make perfect sense.
"OK pleased that's cleared it up then... It's WAR!
You've got to ask yourself one question. Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya, punk?
I know what you're thinking. "Does he have 1600 deployed warheads or 1500?" Well, to tell you the truth, in all this excitement I kind of lost track myself.
You have double-crossed me for the last time Obama. I'm warning you to have my Minsk 2.0 complied with and a jet airplane ready and waiting with Berlusconi's bunga girls aboard. I will call the Mayor's Office at one o'clock and tell you about the Moscow shooting investigation who I will be happy to kill if you don't get Maxine on board, she was awesome :-)."
"Conspiracy theorists prefer to see the world in black and white"
The definition of a Conspiracy Theorist is quite simple: Someone who does not believe the Official Explanation for an event. The corollary being that non-conspiracy theorists believes the government version/official version.
The CP slur has been highly effective.
We weten precies wie de bevelen uitdelen en waar die vandaan komen!
http://www.neurope.eu/article/schulz-promise-change-commission-president...
Het speelkwartier in de parlementen van alle landen is voorbij nu de 3e SpinozaGolf de hoogste regionen van het systeem 'Liegen om te Leven' heeft bereikt.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/dragon-araby-china-challenges-western-hegem...
Nog steeds zijn mensen die de waarheid over de evoluerende werkelijkheid proberen te beschrijven hun leven niet zeker!
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/03/dianne-feinstein-upset-cia...
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Friggin HATE HATE HATE all the shit zerohedge loads on my computer.
jes sayin...
"Very well put. Too many notes. ... And there are simply too many notes, that's all. Cut a few and it will be perfect." Amadeus
I agree with R. Marijuana that "War Kings made the sovereign states, whose powers were covertly captured by the Fraud Kings, the best organized gangsters, the international banksters(,)" and IMO that THAT is really all you need to know. We are not in a dark room with others trying to describe the elephant by articulating about the one portion we grasp.
And, I respectfully disagree with RM's assertion that somehow THEY are afraid because "it" is entirely out of control, - unless SkyNet went live and we are at judgment day Terminator style. Although, I could totally grasp the "human-is-cancer to the planet" or the "human-batteries power the machines" concepts as more and more the artificial-intelligence genie is let out of the bottle. Otherwise, there is absolute, unassailable control. Although I still dream of the military coup that isn't coming and am not disappointed knowing that a National declaration of Martial law will be the starting gun (pun intended) of the next American revolution.
But, there's ONLY ONE REASON Washington has "war fever" and that's because the "one bank" (as I have heard it described on ZH) has plans and the USA just happens to be the/a tool. It's good for business. It serves its purpose. But, EMP, nah. Too many "Fukishimas" and THEY have to keep at least the Southern hemisphere viable, as "underground-for-eons" doesn't make sense. Now, a protracted, conventional world war makes perfect sense, reducing the populations while strengthening the military-industrial-financial-pharmaceutical-media complex. Hedge accordingly and remember the ZH punchline.
What I miss after exhausting the entirety of all aforesaid herein is an alternative to slow the inevitable train wreck, much less turning the nature of things around towards a peaceful solution. Pretty much, without "divine intervention," I don't see the Red Signs, Sassy-uins, Haps-/War-/etc.-burgs/felas having a nail-gun party where it's BYOBB (body-bag), and until the manipulators are gone, we will always continue down the same path.
So, without war-fever upon the puppet master's "D.C./Wall Street-City of London-Vatican" wealth sinks, we have little choice in the direction the future takes except as much as we can spread information (while saying good bye to the Internet), hope factions 2 & 3 + annihilate themselves and their betters (s/) or go off-grid "dreamingly" building our Bush-type underground compounds in the S. American mountains.
I wonder if Bitcoin will still be an accepted exchange media in a post EMP world?