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Which New World Order Are We Talking About?
Submitted by Jeff Thomas of International Man
Which New World Order Are We Talking About?
Those of us who are libertarians have a tendency to speak frequently of “the New World Order.” When doing so, we tend to be a bit unclear as to what the New World Order is. Is it a cabal of the heads of the world’s governments, or just the heads of Western governments? Certainly bankers are included somewhere in the mix, but is it just the heads of the Federal Reserve and the IMF, or does it also include the heads of JPMorgan, Goldman Sachs, etc.? And how about the Rothschilds? And the Bundesbank—surely, they’re in there, too?
And the list goes on, without apparent end.
Certainly, all of the above entities have objectives to increase their own power and profit in the world, but to what degree do they act in concert? Although many prominent individuals, world leaders included, have proclaimed that a New World Order is their ultimate objective, the details of who’s in and who’s out are fuzzy. Just as fuzzy is a list of details as to the collective objectives of these disparate individuals and groups.
So, whilst most libertarians acknowledge “the New World Order,” it’s rare that any two libertarians can agree on exactly what it is or who it’s comprised of. We allow ourselves the luxury of referring to it without being certain of its details, because, “It’s a secret society,” as evidenced by the Bilderberg Group, which meets annually but has no formal agenda and publishes no minutes. We excuse ourselves for having only a vague perception of it, although we readily accept that it’s the most powerful group in the world.
This is particularly true of Americans, as Americans often imagine that the New World Order is an American construct, created by a fascist elite of US bankers and political leaders. The New World Order may be better understood by Europeans, as, actually, it’s very much a European concept—one that’s been around for quite a long time.
It may be said to have had its beginnings in ancient Rome. As Rome became an empire, its various emperors found that conquered lands did not automatically remain conquered. They needed to be managed—a costly and tedious undertaking. Management was far from uniform, as the Gauls could not be managed in the same manner as the Egyptians, who in turn, could not be managed like the Mesopotamians.
After the fall of Rome, Europe was in many ways a shambles for centuries, but the idea of “managing” Europe was revived with the Peace of Westphalia in 1648. The peace brought an end to the Thirty Years’ War (1618-1648) in the Holy Roman Empire and the Eighty Years’ War (1568-1648) between Spain and the Dutch Republic. It brought together the Holy Roman Empire, The House of Habsburg, the Kingdoms of Spain and France, the Dutch Republic, and the Swedish Empire.
Boundaries were set, treaties were signed, and a general set of assumptions as to the autonomy within one’s borders were agreed, to the partial satisfaction of all and to the complete satisfaction of no one… Sound familiar?
Later, Mayer Rothschild made his name (and his fortune) by becoming the financier to the military adventures of the German Government. He then sent his sons out to England, Austria, France, and Italy to do the same—to create a New World Order of sorts, under the control of his family through national debt to his banks. (Deep Throat was right when he said, “Follow the Money.”)
So, the concept of a New World Order has long existed in Europe in various guises, but what does this tell us about the present and, more important, the future?
In our own time, we have seen presidents and prime ministers come and go, whilst their most prominent advisors, such as Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski, continue from one administration to the next, remaining advisors for decades. Such men are often seen as the voices of reason that may be the guiding force that brings about a New World Order once and for all.
Mister Brzezinski has written in his books that order in Europe depends upon a balance with Russia, which must be created through the control of Ukraine by the West. He has stated repeatedly that it’s critical for this to be done through diplomacy, that warfare would be a disaster. Yet, he has also supported the US in creating a coup in Ukraine. When Russia became angered at the takeover, he openly supported American aggression in Ukraine, whilst warning that Russian retaliation must not be tolerated.
Henry Kissinger, who has literally written volumes on his “pursuit of world peace” has, when down in the trenches, also displayed a far more aggressive personality, such as his angry recommendation to US President Gerald Ford to “smash Cuba” when Fidel Castro’s military aid to Angola threatened to ruin Mr. Kissinger’s plans to control Africa.
Whilst the most “enlightened” New World Order advisors may believe that they are working on the “Big Picture,” when it comes down to brass tacks, they clearly demonstrate the same tendency as the more aggressive world leaders, and reveal that, ultimately, they seek to dominate. They may initially recommend diplomacy but resort to force if the other side does not cave to “reason” quickly.
If we stand back and observe this drama from a distance, what we see is a theory of balance between the nations of Europe (and, by extension, the whole world)—a balance based upon intergovernmental agreements, allowing for centralised power and control.
This theory might actually be possible if all the countries of the world were identical in every way, and the goals of all concerned were also identical. But this never has been and can never be the case. Every world leader and every country will differ in its needs and objectives. Therefore, each may tentatively agree to common conditions, as they have going back to the Peace of Westphalia, yet, even before the ink has dried, each state will already be planning to gain an edge on the others.
In 1914, Europe had (once again) become a tangle of aspirations of the various powers—a time bomb, awaiting only a minor incident to set it off. That minor incident occurred when a Serbian national assassinated an Austrian crown prince. Within a month, Europe exploded into World War. As Kissinger himself has observed in his writings, “[T]hey all contributed to it, oblivious to the fact that they were dismantling an international order.”
Since 1648, for every Richelieu that has sought to create a New World Order through diplomacy, there has been a Napoleon who has taken a militaristic approach, assuring that the New World Order applecart will repeatedly be upset by those who are prone to aggression. Further, even those who seek to operate through diplomacy ultimately will seek aggressive means when diplomatic means are not succeeding.
A true world order is unlikely. What may occur in its stead would be repeated attempts by sovereign states to form alliances for their mutual benefit, followed by treachery, one- upmanship, and ultimately, aggression. And very possibly a new World War.
But of one thing we can be certain: Tension at present is as great as it was in 1914. We are awaiting only a minor incident to set off dramatically increased international aggression. With all the talk that’s presently about as to a New World Order, what I believe will occur instead will be a repeat of history.
If this belief is correct, much of the world will decline into not only external warfare, but internal control. Those nations that are now ramping up into police states are most at risk, as the intent is already clearly present. All that’s needed is a greater excuse to increase internal controls. Each of us, unless we favour being engulfed by such controls, might be advised to internationalise ourselves—to diversify ourselves so that, if push comes to shove, we’re able to get ourselves and our families out of harm’s way.
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All systems evolve towards greater complexity and cooperation. The NWO is just a manifestation of that. But the people pushing it are pushing too hard, too fast, in order to grab profits. They are ignoring the human element, most of which is simply not ready.
I do believe that if we manage NOT to annihilate ourselves, we will eventually become more unified, less nationalistic. But it won't be in my lifetime, or my grandchildren's lifetime. The NWO enthusiasts will fail because they are too impatient, too greedy.
And by pushing everyone up into each other's faces they are creating major problems and might even set things back. We aren't READY as a species to behave the way a NWO would require.
Perhaps this is true, but the fall of the Roman Empire brought with it 400-500 years of deviation from your hypothesized long-term trajectory. Philosopher today, spear chucker tomorrow!
The only thing that will get humans from around the world to drop nationalism and cooperate would be a threat from aliens.
You noticed that too huh?
Frankly, 'NWO' is yet another pitiful meme except there's an open ended an infinitely variable definition, a sort of Stephen-King 'Blob', that sneaks around amorphously, then lurches at you like a pink tsunami of pure hobgoblin from a dark place ...
And with no more intrinsic value than any other imaginary construct.
Boogie-man is pretty effective too.
It's not the memes and conjured urban legends that matter, it's the facts on the ground that matter, they did yesterday, they do today, and they still will tomorrow.
nwo, ziocon, zionista, hasbara.....that's numberwang
Really?
We all know that you're a HASBARA that loves to run with the Zionist Banksters.
Just remember to THINK about your mother's mouth - THINK Pendragon. Next time you see here, THINK!
Look at the mouth pendragon...... THINK!!!! what wonders your mother's mouth worked under the table to put food on the table.
THINK!
Bravo!
Finally something from a libertarian on the new world order that doesn't blame the boogie men of communism and agenda 21.
The NWO is composed of anyone who thinks one monkey waving a hand grenade over the entire world is a good idea.
We haven't evolved yet where that is a good idea.
The New World Order is simply a continuation of the Old World Order. An individual is still accepting the bullies' bullshit to believe that there is anything "New" about it. The essence of the World Order is the ability to back up lies with violence, which now has the most important form as the ability to make the public "money" supply out of nothing, which fraud governments enforce. That fraud is symbolic robbery, which continues from the previous forms of robbery.
This article begins well enough by stating:
"The New World Order may be better understood by Europeans, as, actually, it’s very much a European concept—one that’s been around for quite a long time. It may be said to have had its beginnings in ancient Rome."
However, that view is still too superficial. Even going back to Babylon as the metaphorical original source of the social pyramid systems of Neolithic Civilizations is still too shallow a view of history, because there was no point in the evolution of human beings where the basics changed. IT WAS ALWAYS THE BIGGEST BULLIES AND THEIR BULLSHIT.
The "World Order" is based on bullshit backed by bullies. The only changes were due to that developing at an exponential rate due to other kinds of progress in science and technology, which continued to primarily serve the interests of the bullshit backed by bullies. At the present, the MOST IMPORTANT aspect of the World Order is that the public "money" supply is made out of nothing as debts, which can return to nothing when those debts disappear. To know who controls that world, one only has to look at who has the power to make the public "money" supply. The "New World Order" is the attempt to CONTINUE the Old World Order, by enabling some future groups to make the public "money" supply out of nothing, in ways whereby that fraud will still be enforced.
The essential problem regarding why "Libertarians" cannot agree upon those things is that they can not agree upon the role of the principle of the conservation of energy in relation to "Liberty." They generally do not have, because they do not want to have, any general understanding of human beings and human civilizations as general energy systems. That is especially the case because most of the so-called "Libertarians" do not bother to try to reconcile how their notions regarding "freedom" can be reconciled with the principle of the conservation of energy.
That can only be done through intellectual scientific revolutions that recognize how the history of the philosophy of science was also dominated by the bullies' bullshit world view, in ways whereby the understanding of the concept of entropy was inverted and perverted. The classical understanding of "Libertarians" of the "World Order" continues to be based on DUALITIES, false fundamental dichotomies, and their related impossible ideals, rather than based upon the UNITARY MECHANISMS of general energy systems.
In order to apply better unitary mechanisms through thinking about human civilization as a manifestation of a general energy system, it is IMPERATIVE to go through the paradigm shifts which follow from appreciating how the meaning of the concept of entropy was inverted during the historical development of the philosophy of science. The current World Order is necessary based on debt controls backed by death controls, or the ways that the combined money/murder systems operate as Enforced Frauds. The older World Order was that, and the attempts of the pyramidion people in the established social pyramid systems are endeavouring to continue to do that in the future.
In my opinion, an article like the one above is too shallow, and therefore, too silly, while its conclusion is wildly optimistic that it might become possible "if push comes to shove, we’re able to get ourselves and our families out of harm’s way." Globalized systems of electronic monkey money frauds, backed by the threat of force from apes with atomic bombs, are way TOO BIG to able to get "out of harm's way."
The Old World Order was based on backing up lies with violence, while any New World Order is the continuation of that. The PROBLEM is that there has been real progress in physical science and technology, which have made weapons of mass destruction and mass surveillance becoming TRILLIONS OF TIMES more powerful and capable than ever before in human history. The ONLY genuinely possible, realistic resolutions of that situation is to go through enough paradigm shifts in political science to be able to do what MUST be done, which is organize better systems of organized crime, which operate better death controls to back up better debt controls.
By and large, the "Liberty Movements" are based on deliberately ignoring the physical sciences which have changed the Old World Order into the New World Order. There was nothing but a core of organized crime, surrounded by controlled opposition groups. Since most of the so-called "Liberty Movements" continue to think in the same old-fashioned ways, they are mostly controlled opposition. IF the so-called Libertarians were serious, then they would address ways to reconcile their concept of freedom with the principle of the conservation of energy. However, by and large, the vast majority of them do not have the slightest interest in doing that, but rather are content to use magical words, in their kind of transcendental poetry about politics.
The PROBLEMS that we face are primarily due to progress in physical sciences, without any corresponding progress in political science. Therefore, the Old World Order is transforming into the New World Order as the continuation of systems of organized lies operating robberies, without any better understanding of that happening. It is NOT possible to stop human beings and civilizations from operating as entropic pumps of energy flows, however it IS possible to change the perceptual paradigms regarding that. In particular, it is NOT necessary to believe in bullies' bullshit, although one still must deal with the facts that they ARE bullies.
In my view, so-called Libertarians are drowning in the bullies' bullshit world view, which they continue to almost totally take for granted. Therefore, they tend to promote impossible ideals that always backfire badly and cause the opposite to happen in the real world. The only way to have a better World Order is to develop better dynamic equilibria between the different systems of organized lies operating robberies, and especially with regard to the manifestation of that through the symbolic robberies, which are the enforced frauds operated by the monetary systems, backed up by the taxation systems.
Of course, I do not expect that to actually happen. Rather, we are collectively headed towards committing suicide, if not almost omnicide for most of the life on the planet, because there ARE debt insanities, which are headed towards provoking death insanities. There HAS been awesome progress in physical science, while there has been almost NO progress in political science. The article above was another typical example of that, as a relatively superficial analysis, which then proposes shallow solutions, which are not remotely close to being the same order of magnitude as the problems.
The REAL world is now operating through electronic frauds, backed by the force of atomic bombs. However, almost all of our politics continues to be the same, despite that progress in physical sciences. The kinds of thinking that enabled progress in physical sciences is NOWHERE significantly present in out political science. Moreover, as the various articles on Zero Hedge, and comments upon those articles, tend to demonstrate, we are collectively light years away from developing better political science which is consistent with physical science. Even though Zero Hedge content is far superior to the mass media, there is still yet almost nothing here, but mostly controlled opposition that does not recognize that it is controlled, because it still uses the same old-fashioned false fundamental dichotomies and related impossible ideals.
I totally agreed with the article above when it stated that: " much of the world will decline into not only external warfare, but internal control. Those nations that are now ramping up into police states are most at risk, as the intent is already clearly present. All that’s needed is a greater excuse to increase internal controls."
However, that article does not embrace the magnitude of the problem that the REAL world is now based on globalized electronic frauds, backed by force of atomic bombs. Moreover, it also does not appear to make the slightest effort to reconcile its political ideals with the physical sciences that make those technologies possible.
Of course, the mainstream morons who know nothing but what the mass media tell them are far worse believers in the biggest bullies' bullshit. But nevertheless, in my view most of the content on Zero Hedge implicitly continues to believe too much in the bullies' bullshit, and implicitly relies too much upon old-fashioned ideas, including old-fashioned expectations regarding how it would be possible to be prepared for globalized systems of electronic frauds, backed by the force of atomic bombs, to go through severe social storms and psychotic breakdowns.
The New World Order is an attempt to change the Old World Order social pyramid systems the minimum possible, so that they can stay the same. The New World Order is an attempt to incorporate technologies which are trillions of times more capable and powerful (& headed towards becoming quadrillions) into systems of backing up lies with violence, causing ignorance and fear, to be able to continue, without having to adapt to that, other than to the minimum.
From Romer's Rule to Le Chatelier's Principle, that is fully understandable when one looks at human civilization as a general energy system. However, it is RIDICULOUS to think that Neolithic styles of social pyramid system civilization could survive through merely doing that! We have no choice but to attempt to develop some sort of Translithic Civilizations, or else the progress in physical sciences is going to destroy a technological civilization, due to its own madness of final failure from too much success at controlling society with systems of lies backed by violence, which results in too much attitude of evil deliberate ignorance towards everything outside of that social system based on successfully enforcing frauds.
As outlined in detail in the recent article, "We Are Failing To Deliver On Our Obligations As Americans", Americans have been the victims of the best brainwashing that money could buy, in order to enable the effective privatization of the public powers, so that privately controlled banks, and the corporations that grew up around them, can control the powers of "We the People" to use to have defrauded "the People" in the context of a runaway fascist plutocracy juggernaut building a fascist police state in order to continue to advance the same basic agenda of organized crime surrounded by controlled opposition. The powers of governments mostly support various cartels and monopolies, which benefit a tiny minority of oligarchs, against the interests of the vast majority, but which nevertheless continue to work because almost all successful politicians have become the banksters puppets, who are voted for by enough to the masses of muppets to continue to advance the overall agenda of government controlled by organized crime, which is resisted by practically nothing else than various controlled opposition groups.
Given the vicious spirals of the roles of money through the funding of the political processes, there appears to be NO politically practical ways to arrest the triumphs of the applications of the methods of organized crime through the political processes, resulting in America, and the rest of the world, operating through social pyramid systems based on legalized lies, backed by legalized violence, which are degenerating before our eyes, faster: "We are allowing the political class to plunder our wealth, negate our freedoms and desecrate our Constitution."
The rule of law itself is breaking down, as the systems of legalizing lies and violence less and less even bother to properly legalize themselves. More and more, the biggest banks have become like a NEW ROYALTY, in their COURT OF FRAUD. There is nothing too "new" about that kind of emerging NeoFeudalism. Moreover, that kind of "New World Order" is extremely problematic, since it gets harder and harder to imagine how those kinds of enforced frauds could continue to survive through the phases of still growing exponentially worse in the foreseeable future, (which is the only thing that their already established structures enable them to do.)
Both the Old and New World Orders operate through successfully enforcing frauds ... HOWEVER, the idea that We could continue through that kind of politics, despite it being pumped up and UP by progress in physical science, by order of magnitude, after order of magnitude, would be LAUGHABLE, IF IT WERE NOT ALSO SO TRAGIC. In my view, the deeper problems, as demonstrated by that kind of article above, are that the vast majority of people do not want to understand the basis of the progress in physical sciences, which enabled the awesome demonstration of that progress in such forms as electronics and atomic energy. Even more so, the vast majority of people do not want to change their perceptions of politics in ways which would make that become more consistent with those physical sciences.
Rather, what is actually happening is that the Old World Order debt slavery systems have generated New World Order debt insanity numbers, which have the delusions that there would be some kind of future death insanities which would be able to continue through those debt insanities ... to enable the established social pyramid systems to still basically survive intact ???
Ideally, we should change the ways that we perceive those social pyramids to see them as toroidal vortices, which changed perceptions would enable us to connect the bottom and top of the social pyramids better, which in turn would enable the connections of the human energy systems to become better connected with the environmental energy systems. While those things are theoretically possible, at present, civilization IS controlled with fundamentally fraudulent financial accounting systems, driving social polarization and destruction of the natural world, through the MAD Money As Debt systems backed by the MAD Mutual Assured Destruction systems.
In the context of all that MADNESS, my proposals for developing better political science, that goes through profound paradigm shifts, as a series of intellectual scientific revolutions, appears to mostly be my own self-indulgent MADNESS, in the face of the rest of the world's MADNESS. That REAL world, operating globalized electronic frauds, backed by the force of atomic bombs, is something that I have worried about through my whole adult life, only to always discover that the more I knew, the worse it got ... While there are some philosophical consolations from understanding human civilization as a general energy system, the degree to which the vast majority of people do not, and do not want to, makes my promotion that "we should" seem like nothing much more than my own personally insane response to living inside of a world that is automatically becoming more insane every day, or has Zero Hedge has recently expressed that process, the old normal becoming the new normal, which is becoming paranormal ...
The New World Order is merely the old world order. 'Twas ever thus.
Unimaginable wealth for a few thousand idlers, who own everything worth owning, and use some of the proceeds of their wealth to pay big men with guns to kill anyone who dares defy them.
Work, poverty and debt- and tax- slavery for everyone else, who are thrown a small fraction of the fruits of their labour, at best, and expected to be grateful the master class don't just kill them and take it all.
What's changed over the centuries is that the order is on a much grander scale---there's hardly any part of the planet remaining where escaping its grip is still possible. The masters have gotten better at usurping and monopolizing the world's wealth, and, to add to the fun, grow less concerned with whether the rest of the human race lives or dies with each passing year. While human labour remained necessary slave revolts were always a concern, making it necessary to give the proles enough to keep them quiet and reproducing themselves. Not for much longer.
Technology has come closer to making it feasible to built a robotic version of the New Socialist Man, who will give faithfully according to his ability 24 hours a day, every day, and be unthinkingly content to receive according to meager fuel and maintenance needs---far closer to the fever dreams of that prophet of the master class, Kark Marx, than any mere human could ever have ever been.
When the masters finally succeed in designing our robotic replacements, their first orders to them will be to exterminate all the useless human mouths who have outlived their usefulness even as drudges. The Singularity, they call it.
Yes, Niall, that is the same view as I also expressed in my comment immediately above yours.
It is tragic that only the worst science fiction nightmares are the ones that appear to becoming true! I would like to do some better political science fiction or fantasy, however, at the present time that appears to be practically impossible, while we are racing faster and faster towards the worst science fiction dystopias becoming the ones that change from science fiction into facts.
I posted a similiar comment and a reply under the article How Our Crazy Money System Works about that needing some social psychiatry, however, there are no practical ways to actually do that. My kind of political science fiction attempts to hard tack into the oncoming winds of social storms as much as possible. However, the future that is most probable continues to be that we will all founder and drown in these severe storms of social insanities that are brewing on the horizon of history!
Brilliant comentary, both.
For those in need of some lyrical inspiration, watch Snowpiercer. The train as an analogy of a overaching system of control.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1706620/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
"Although the engine is perpetual, its parts are not. "