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Submitted by Simon Black via Sovereign Man blog,

You know that we talk a lot about the insane level of government interference in our lives. About what we can and cannot put in our bodies. The amount of interest we’re entitled to receive on our savings. Etc.

But I’m noticing now even more ridiculous trends of governments wanting to get involved in people’s sex lives.

Last year the Danish government promoted an initiative called “Do it for Denmark”, encouraging Danes to travel abroad and have sex while on holidays. They even have a pretty racy Youtube video featuring a scantily clad gorgeous blonde waiting to do her duty for her country and procreate.

 

Singapore as well has a catchy jingle about going out and making babies, brought to you by the same guys who did the Mentos theme song.

The Swedish government actually spent taxpayer money on its new genitals song, so it can start indoctrinating children early on how they can make babies.

Here in Japan, which has one of the lowest birthrates in the world, the government is desperate to find solutions to what it calls its libido crisis.

According to their data, Japanese men aren’t terribly interested in sex and the women find sex to be bothersome.

Japanese being expert process engineers are coming up with a government solution to reengineer sexual desire in their country.

(I have to imagine that if this solution reached US soil, the government option would include the smooth sounds of Barack Obama whispering some pillow talk: “C’mon, lemme give you this big tax cut, baby…”)

Easily the most ridiculous solution they came up with is to impose a ‘handsome tax’ on attractive men. I thought this was a headline from the Onion, the greatest news source in the world, but it turned out to be true.

The idea being that if you tax handsome men, then less attractive men would have more money and hence be able to attract women.

Zerohedge covered this in fantastic detail—I encourage you to check it out. This is not a joke.

The thing that many of these countries have in common, Japan, Denmark, etc., is a rapidly declining birthrate.

A declining birthrate is disastrous for an economy, particularly for an ageing place like Japan.

Ironically, the oldest person in the world turned 117 years old yesterday—and no surprise that she’s Japanese. In fact, Japan is home to one of the oldest populations in the world and has one of the longest life expectancies.

Curiously they also have one of the largest pension programs in the world. You put all that together and you have fewer and fewer young people paying more and more of their income to support a disproportionately large population of retirees who are living for decades after they stop working.

Each one of these governments is trying to find a solution to fix this unsustainable fiscal problem.

In Denmark they seem to think that people aren’t going on vacation enough. In Japan they think it’s a problem of sexual desire. But in actuality it has everything to do with cost of living.

Month to month, year to year, it’s hard to notice the subtle changes in costs of living and standards of living, but after a long period of time it’s easy to look back and remember how things used to be.

You used to be able to support a family on a single income. You used to be able to afford medical care and higher education.

It’s often said that the greatest expense that someone will have in their life is his or her home. That’s total nonsense.

Now, I’m not saying it’s not worth it, but the biggest expense most people will have is family, and particularly children.

And after years and years of suffering through pitiful, destructive policies that have chronically made people less prosperous, it’s no surprise that they’re coming to the conclusion—you know, we can’t really afford to have a child right now.

There are consequences to conjuring money out of thin air. There are consequences to destructive policies.

So destructive in fact that central bankers and politicians even have the power to make a population disappear.

How ironic that they try to fix their own problem by trying to introduce themselves into our bedrooms.

 

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Fri, 03/06/2015 - 23:03 | 5863764 Miffed Microbio...
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It's a damn shame this has come to this point. A piece of paper means nothing to me and would stay with my man with or without it. We took our vows seriously and stayed together during some pretty bad times.

Today it's just not taken seriously but if you think about it, not only has marriage been trivialized but everything else as well. Perhaps this is really just a symptom. We are being divided in all ways now. Rich/poor, black/white, male/female, red/ blue.... On and on. Ultimately, someone else reaps the reward while we suffer.

Miffed

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 12:10 | 5864577 sleepingbeauty
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Agreed. We've gone through tough times too. But with the high divorce rate, it is increasingly hard to find two individuals willing to go through everything and stay together in spite of. The ones who pay the high price is the children.

 

In marriage, you have to be willing to lay down everything you want in order to give them what they want. (and you are blessed when they return the favour). I am blessed.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:14 | 5862953 teslaberry
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no, it really is. 

 

i've seen what happens with family and friends. 

 

women are trained to think of themselves as victims because they are the weaker sex. ACCEPT YOUR POSITION AND MAKE YOUR MAN STRONGER. 

 

instead women are trained to be combative , rather than to accept their position. 

this has  happened over decades. the net result is the total breakdown of family structure in the west WITHOUT the conquest of an invading empire that looted the women and children and killed the men. 

the feminism propoganda is everywhere you look. you got a shitty man. too bad. your single example doesn't contradict the decades long programming that the neoliberal banking empire has been and continues to use to break apart socieites. 

 

look at the incipient 'feminism' movements in just about every bric country. they are subsidize heavliy by soros and the state department to stir up trouble and identity politics and subvert the family. 

 

has feminism in the u.s. advanced the position of women by brainwashing many of them that they deserve equal pay?

are there less black men in jail because 'we' have a 'black' president.

 

it's called identity politics and it is used AGAINST people by tricking them into being pissed off about something and betraying those to whome they are close and those who can support them.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:20 | 5862972 MsCreant
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Why is it the case that I got a shitty man, but all the men going through the same thing do not have "shitty women?"

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:33 | 5863022 QQQBall
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 You never hear her crying for equal rights in divorce court. Go to Denmark, get laid, come home.  Wash, rinse, repeat. After 10 years in Cali, you can be sued for lifetime support. More men have been ruined financially by divorces than by The Fed.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 19:23 | 5863170 PacOps
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True. I am in CA & 72. My Ex of 30+ frikkin years ago came back at me and got another 10Gs. I figure I got off light. When does it end? I guess when I do.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 21:55 | 5863598 Clarabell
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Back in the 80s in Toronto there was this lawyer who specialized in the divorces of the very rich. He used to get enormous settlements for the women. He made millions. Then he got the idea that he would go back every year and get more money from the ex-husbands. Well one day they found him slumped over the wheel of his Austin Martin with a bullet in his head. They had plenty of suspects, but no smoking gun. All the suspects had high priced lawyers so there was no chance of sweating a confession out of anyone. They never found out who did it, but no lawyer ever tried that trick again!

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 11:06 | 5864417 Kirk2NCC1701
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In Quebec, Canada, the government considers you to be 'equivalent to married' after living with a woman for 365 days.

If you don't get her to move out, she OWNS half your stuff. All your stuff. (Feminist civil servants pushed that bit of legislation through.)

If that doesn't encourage you to find a new "Friend With Benefits" at least once a year, I don't know what will.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:35 | 5863035 Terminus C
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Because he is enjoying his victimhood.  There is irony in his rant... I just can't seem to put my finger on it...

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 00:51 | 5863967 Vullsain
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You nailed it... for him. Only women can be victims. If a man gets screwed he is whining. 

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 09:08 | 5864303 spinone
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Thats the belief.  White males are in the position of power in society and benefitted from previous discrimination, so they cant be the victems of discrimination, are the justified target of black anger, need to pay reparations, etc.

I don't buy it, but thats the attitude.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:49 | 5863075 armageddon addahere
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Who says they didn't?

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 20:07 | 5863299 OldTrooper
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Maybe men just aren't being completely honest, with you or themselves.  I'd rate my first wife as...difficult, well, maybe tough...OK, she was shitty.  Almost ended up in jail over witholding taxes because of her.  But I made a much better second choice - after seven years with her I must say she rates "excellent".  Learn and move on, do better next time.  There are good men and women out there.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 22:18 | 5863650 Crawdaddy
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People downvoted this? Gotta be kidding me. They are crack smokers who have not been on the receiving end of the govt love rules. The rules are simple Income - <everyone else> eqauls who gets to pay for the fun. Used to be the man was target numero uno but no longer. Dot Guv parasites are not biased. Small victory to say to producing women - welcome to the party pal.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:31 | 5863015 Sam Clemons
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I don't mind women that are witty and have good comebacks.

I do mind generally combative women or women that demand I do things for them (dates, flowers, pick them up, etc).  I drop them like a bad habit.  

 

 

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:35 | 5863033 MsCreant
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You should. A partner is someone you want to work with. If you love and support each other, you will do things like that every now and then because it feels "right" and it is fun to do it, it stands out because it is rare and special. If you have to demand it from a guy, it is coercive, the feeling isn't there. Might as well be done with it, indeed. 

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 20:30 | 5863364 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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This.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:23 | 5862982 Joe Panama
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All this is saying is that the system is broken.   It penalizes, instead of finding a fair and just solution to the problem.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:40 | 5863043 JuliaS
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Married. Not particularly happy. Would love to get a divorce, but afraid of landing in your exact situation, so I force myself to wait till the kid grows up and then all bets are off. I'm free. Don't feel like having any more children. One was enough to understand that it wasn't actulaly "my thing". No new instincts discovered, no joy out of having a family - only regrets.

I landed in a relationship with an irresponsible person. Been a sole breadwinner throughout the entire relatinoship which left me feeling like shit. My work is my only escape from reality. Family - nothing but bills, responsibility and juggling multiple tasks while being expected to act like everything is fine, wearing a smile on my face.

Can't do that. I'm tired. All I want is for my daughter to grow up and become independent so I could move on and simply enjoy the rest of my life working. Retirement? I don't believe I'm entitled to anything. I'll work for as long as I can and if things turn to shit, I'll end my life. I have no sentimental attachments to it.

I was hoping a relationship would give me something to live for. It didnt. Was then hoping a kid would trigger something buried deep within. She did no such thing. All I do now is go though my day wearing a fake smile, waiting for the life to end.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:45 | 5863066 Sam Clemons
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Sounds like learned helplessness to me.  I get it.  Been there.  There are typically physiological reasons for this.  Look into dopamine, serotonin, etc and Ray Peat's work.  Yes, you may still dislike your present situation, but you may begin to see it in a different light with hope.

Good luck.  

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 01:56 | 5864046 Thirst Mutilator
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You might be dead already and don't even know it

 

http://www.deathclock.com/

 

Have a nice day! :-)

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:51 | 5863078 MsCreant
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You did not ask me. Get out of it or go to therapy and tell the truth. If he can handle the truth and work with you, that is a winning deal. If he does not give a shit to work with you, best to cut bait now. 

The day I parted ways with my ex- I stopped going into debt and started to reverse course. The bleeding stopped. He could not spend the money any more. The amount I had to give him every month was child support. I still came out ahead every month because I had control of the money. Took me maybe 6-7 years but I got out of all the debt. That includes his debt, my student loans, and my house. 

I lived very carefully but I was so much happier than having this other person draining me.

And, you didn't ask me.

The cost was not as costly as staying in it-- financially and emotionally.

 

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 21:52 | 5863316 JuliaS
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Therapy? That's what my spouse suggests - therapy, as every once in a while I do snap and that suggestion only makes me feel more insulted. I say that the therapy is for people who don't know what the problem is. I do. I don't need a diagnosis. I need a solution and I'll get it eventually.

I know divorce will probably fix things. I just haven't reached the point where I'm ready for such distraction. Much easier to detach myself mentally from everything going on and simply go to work every morning and return home to recover some strength. Lather, rinse, repeat.

I'm not in a rush to get anywhere.

Bad example for my daughter? Completely agree. Maybe she understands, maybe she doesn't. I don't know how my life will affect hers. I had, what I considered a good parent and a bad parent. I think that the bad parent - my father, had better influence on me, because I didn't so much want to emulate my mother as I wanted to not end up like my father. I wanted to become everything he was not, and succeeded. That covers my professional life.

Unfortunately, there are people out there whose only way of surviving is through association with someone active like myself and I... well, I simply made a pair of bad decisions - getting married and having a kid. No other mistakes in life, but those 2 are enough.

I'm not miserable. I don't hate my life. Most days I'm fine. If I can maintain this level, like I said, till my daughter moves out, then I can walk away without regret. I don't want to find a better family. I don't want to start my whole life over. I just want to get through life, and that's it. Time ticks away. The problem will eventually take care of itself.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 22:20 | 5863658 Crawdaddy
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Be the tortoise. Win the race by living well.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 22:24 | 5863670 MsCreant
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Unless you are near death, is it too late to create a life worth living?

I have had a gun in mouth before. Tasted oily when I closed my lips around it as it was upside down situated against the roof of my mouth. I did not pull the trigger. It put me in an interesting, eyes peeled open, shit or get off the pot, situation. I got divorced instead. 

I am NOT saying you are suicidal. Believe it or not, I wasn't. What I had done was boxed my way into thinking nothing could possibly be different. Once it looks like that, there is only one door out. When I went there to check it out, I knew it wasn't what I wanted. I needed to get out of going through the motions of a life that felt like a meaningless trap. It was meaningless because I had to stop feeling to keep doing what I was doing.

That is what I hear in your posts that sounds like it is similar to me, you have committed yourself to living on auto-pilot, instead of actual suicide, a mini-death. You sound like you have closed all the other doors, there is no choice.

I don't know crap. I can just tell you where I have been, and where I am. It's all I got. I still have my moments, but I do pretty good these days. No psycho-pharmacology, just a big life change. 

Good luck and best wishes.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 23:03 | 5863765 JuliaS
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Thank you for sharing your perspective. I'm not suicidal, though I haven't been pushed far enough, so I don't know where my real limits lie. Sometimes I feel like life itself is pointless, other times I laugh it off, telling myself that these so-called "struggles" are 1st world white people's problems. There are plenty of those whose lives are physically much worse and they aren't giving up.

I'm completely against medication. I see stressed out friends who get put on pills and become people I can't even recognize anymore - walking zombies. I don't want to be like them. I see really terrible marriages and I think mine ain't so bad. I'm not on welfare, I don't have any debts. My health is not wrecked by bad genetics, addiction or injury. I think I'm alright. My situation is manageable and I shouldn't complain because I'm in control of the situation. I can support myself, so, unlike my spouse I have no insecurities and I don't have to go into defensive mode when discussing divorce (i.e. nobody but me would want you and all such nonsense).

I prefer consistency. To me change is stress, even if it is for the better. That's why I complain verbally, but stay married. I've been in a small car accident over a year ago. Wasn't at fault, so I've got no reasons to worry, but even then, dealing with lawyers still puts me out of whack. I can't imagine dedicating my time to serious legal battles over money, custody, property - fighting with a person who I know won't give up easily. My job requires mental clarity and minimal distraction. What I have I can deal with. I made it through 10 years of marriage. I can last another 10. It's alright.

Have a good weekend and again, thank you.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 23:23 | 5863807 logicalman
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Once you realise that life is pointless, the pressure's off. Enjoy today - yesterday's gone and there's no guarantee you'll see tomorrow.

Some shit still gets to you, but I find that thought helps keep me sane(ish)

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 07:21 | 5864233 Bearwagon
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"Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery - today is a gift. That's why it's called the present." This is worth thinking about it. Do you realize that everything that's left of 10 years of marriage you made it through is located solely in your head? There's nothing but your memories. And you are free to do with them whatever you'd like - it is your head, after all. Yesteryear really is nothing else then you remeber it to be, the future is pure imagination, so what in the world should ever stop you from framing your reality the way you'd like it most - if not you yourself?! You wrote that you cannot imagine yourself dedicating your time to what you call "serious battles". And that is all that's stopping you from just doing it - you just don't imagine it. But you are free to imagine what suits your needs best, so don't hesitate. You'd also be free to regard those "serious battles" as "funny games", if that would do you any good. It is your choice. Of course. And the time passing by not only is your life, but in fact it's terminally. Make of it, what you judge best! STAT!

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 01:26 | 5866257 kareninca
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JuliaS, all of the women that I know who have divorced their husbands have been happy as clams as a result.  I mean, happy, happy, happy.  They all wish they had done it years before.  It is a mistake for you to put off divorcing.  Look at the studies; they support what I'm saying.  GTFO now.

I'm sticking with my husband even though we're both deeply miserable (thank God no kids; we knew better) and I'd be happier gone, because we do love each other.  But you are not in that situation.  You are not helping your daughter by dragging this out. 

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 09:31 | 5864323 SWRichmond
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Ms

Thanks for sharing that.  I admire your openness.  Nothing EVER is the way we think it should be, and never will be.  To be human and alive is to want things to be "right".  But they never are.  Or are they?

Besides, as long as you're breathing you still have a chance...to enjoy what is here, that is.  

One last thing.  Untimely death diminishes us all.

-SWR

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:52 | 5863083 Hugh G Rection
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Someone needs to have an affair...

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:56 | 5863092 MsCreant
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Says Hugh G Rection!

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 19:16 | 5863143 Kayman
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JuliaS

Staying in a loveless, toxic marriage is a mistake. You are teaching your daughter that living a lie is OK.

It is only with a little bit of tongue-in-cheek that I will tell you a brief summary of what I told my ex on the 10th anniversary of my divorce, " you know because of all the lies you told during the divorce- I lost my business, lost all my financial assets, for a while I lost my children, and for a very long while I lost my self respect- but you know what... to have you gone, it was all worth it."

Move on girl, you can't turn the clock back, but you can rewind it.

Good Luck

K

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 20:24 | 5863352 OldTrooper
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Why does divorce cost so much?

Because it's worth every penny!

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 19:18 | 5863151 Razor_Edge
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I don't know if you're a man or a woman, your moniker suggests a woman, but man, that's so sad. It sounds like you're just putting in time, waiting to die. Get a life, there are always options. Aren't you just feeling sorry for yourself?

You put me in mind of a little spoiled child who didn't get  his or her way. That's life, so suck it up and move on. If as an adult you act like a child, don't expect your life to be a bed of roses. Problems are life's way of telling you that it's time for change. If you resist, you will feel pain. It's called growing up and taking on the challenges of an adult.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 23:57 | 5863860 JuliaS
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That's how I got to be married. I thought life wasn't good enough. Thought it was giving me a signal to move on and I misread it. What I thought was a step forward ended up being 2 steps back. Life ain't so clear cut and being an adult doesn't mean magically having all the right answers. We're all trying to find our place in life.

Change... walking away - that's easy for an unmarried person. Somewhat easy for a couple with no kids, but you don't see it until you pass both of those points. Things get clearer in hindsight, sometimes.

Even though I complain, I must admit I still get something out of the relationship. I get a stay at home parent and I think that it's a better option than a hired babysitter.

When it comes to income, I'm less worried about my spouse not working as a fact, than I am about myself losing my job and not having anyone to fall back onto. I'm trying to communicate that across. Had hopes to a certain point, but I think by now it's clear that things aren't going to improve.

I can change, but so can my husband. I think this is his problem as much as mine. Why should I experience all the stress? Why should everything be my problem? Why shouldn't he get motivated start providing support instead of running away every time adult matter are discussed?

I'm strong when it comes to many issues, however I am not agressive enough to oppose or influence a person. Emotions get in the way. When I'm writing things online anonymously, words just fall into place, it's all easy. Easy to pass judgement. Easy to figure out solutions to someone else's life. However. when I'm in the actual situation - when I'm the person dealing with problems, it gets hard. Things quit making sense. I sometimes consciously end up making bad decisions.

I'm glad you have your life all figured out, but I don't. I'm following what seems to me like a path of least resistance. If you disapprove, you're entitled to your opinion.

Do I feel sorry for myself? I don't, but I do feel sorry for the person I'm with, I feel uncertain about my daughter and what's best for her. I'm not the only person involved. I'm only 1/3rd of the whole equation and that's why it's so much more complex than simply "getting a life" for myself.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 02:04 | 5864058 Miffed Microbio...
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Dear Julia,

May I respectfully suggest you ( maybe your husband too) find a good counselor and work through some of these issues. When I finally broke down and gave it a try ( for 20 years I was determined to not do so, convinced I could deal with my personal issues alone) I was grateful I did. An impartial person experienced in these matters can really shed some light on why things are the way they are. I was shocked at how much miscommunication was going on between us. So much of my anger was really misdirected and now my only regret is that I wasted so much time and hurt my family.

You sound like the solid cerebral type, the Rock and responsible one. This is my husband. Your husband probably is the fun and frivolous one who's antics, though entertaining at one time, have now run thin. This is more me. We are diametrically opposed individuals but with work, we have come together. It is possible if both of you will commit on working on it.

However, let me say this is not a path of least resistance. Instead of running away, this is running toward. This is facing the uncomfortable and you leave the realm of safety and familiarity. This may be exploring some things you may not want to be revealed. I liken it to carrying a backpack full of rocks, when one problem is dealt with and defeated, you get to take a rock out of your backpack and place it on the road. You are that much lighter and have more energy.

Life should be joyful, not resignation. Imagine laying on your death bed. Are you content? If not, change really isn't so terrible. You know what is so hard? Resistance to change. Once that is conquered, change comes easily.

I wish you well,

Miffed

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 13:00 | 5864704 Kayman
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JuliaS

"I can change, but so can my husband."

You sound like you are so stuck in the middle of the action and lack perspective.

People Do Not Change.  All the superficial stuff can be polished, but at their core people never change.

K

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 18:42 | 5865496 Miffed Microbio...
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People can change. However only they themselves can decide and no outside influence can precipitate it. We essentially walk alone in this world.

Miffed

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 00:41 | 5863948 nuke ISIS now
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Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:56 | 5863093 First There Is ...
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Your novelty anecdote doesn't begin to level the playing field. Men have been getting fucked like you did for decades. And while I take no pleasure in seeing anyone get fucked over, it is overwhelmingly a man's burden when divorce is visited upon the family. As stated below - welcome to the club

 

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 20:32 | 5863369 Charming Anarchist
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In reality, men have been fucked over in divorce by other men -- by other divorce lawyers. 

Women and children are only tools being used by other family-destroying pararsitic/predator lawyers for their own personal aggrandizement.  It only appears to be a battle between the sexes.  The truth is the divorce is a huge cock fight. 

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 19:15 | 5863142 logicalman
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I think you will find that what you are describing happens way more to men than women.

My ex got full custody - gave her enough cash to buy 3 or 4 BMWs - She drank & smoked it all. Drives a Chev.

Money that would have gone to my kids if I'd been able to hang on to it.

Pisses me off every time I think about it.

 

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 21:13 | 5863475 SWRichmond
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http://www.divorce-lawyer-source.com/faq/emotional/who-initiates-divorce...

Among college-educated couples, the percentage of divorces initiated by wives is a whopping 90 percent.

Some equality.  IIRC, Elin Woods, found by police when they arrived at the scene of his "accident" standing over an injured and lying in the street Tiger with a golf club, the windows in his car shattered, walked away with $110 Million.  A man in that situation would have gotten arrested, and convicted.

Six years of marriage.  Do the math.  It doesn't add up for men.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 21:42 | 5863564 FredFlintstone
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There is a lot more to that story I am sure.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 22:25 | 5863676 Crawdaddy
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Whaddaya mean? She earned it! We saw Tiger Wood's ex wife sink 25ft puts under pressure at Augusta all the time. Didn't we? Because Oprah.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 19:19 | 5863155 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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Since when an exception make a rule huuh ?  o.o  o.O  O.O

Hell, it's justice that you got the debt because in the vast majority of case it's the men who (even when he lost his job) that must pay for child support, debt and fees to his ex, while she is riding the cock carousel with her new thugs.

If he doesn't pay he goes to prison.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 19:31 | 5863195 MsCreant
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And I would have gone if I did not pay...

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 19:50 | 5863245 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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You wanted equality enjoy it...

Me: not married, debt free, good savings considering my age (27 years old) and the current economic recession.

Quite enjoying it now.

Don't plan to get married soon (at least with western feminist women in western countries) if one day I want it, I will emigrate out of my cuntry.

Russia, China is on my list, they still have good wife material out there and their law aren't so misandric like in the West.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 20:39 | 5863386 RichardParker
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G:

Be careful what you wish for my friend.  I like Russians.  And I've crossed paths with quite a few of them over the years.  I even dated one for a while some time ago.  To make a generalization, they're very warm people and they're a lot of fun to hang out with.  However, when it comes to the really important stuff, you can't get a straight answer out of them on anything.

Now the Germans on the other hand, typically they're really blunt by American standards.  If they have something to say, they just come out and say it.  At least you know where you stand.  LOL 

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 06:42 | 5864181 New World Chaos
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You have the right idea.  The puppetmasters have wrecked the family, and crushed the honest man, by telling women (and cops) that relationships should be based on entitlement and grievance.  They have turned us into mules instead of life partners.  Well, there are still fine Russian women who appreciate a man who isn't an abusive drunk.  The feminists can all turn lesbian.  They deserve each other.

A SilverGoldBitcoinBug also has an excellent extra layer of defense against gold diggers.  Always pay cash for your alternative money, and if they hear about it through the grapevine, only let them know about your "dummy" stash.  Sucks that we have to treat our potential partners like potential thieves but that's what it has come to in this dictatorship of soul vampires.  You'll probably attract better people with a small stash anyway.  They will be with you for the right reasons.  If all else fails, having your assets outside the system lets you walk away much easier.  Especially if you have a second passport.
Sat, 03/07/2015 - 04:53 | 5864189 New World Chaos
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You don't get justice by spreading the injustice even more.  It would only be justice if MsCreant was a big-govt feminist who got hoisted on her own petard, but I doubt that's the case.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 21:01 | 5863459 Kirk2NCC1701
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"Women own the children, and men own the bills."

True in most cases, but there are always exceptions, and I'm sure that there are plenty of ZH readers and bloggers (Julia, McCreant) who can give you their example of "things gone wrong".

Although my situation is a mixed bag of joys and regrets and I share Julia's view of waiting till the kids are out of high school, before calling it Splitsville, it's nothing like that of my one of my old friends who was snagged by a "Play Me Misty" predator:

After dating her a few times and discovering that they were not a good match outside the bedroom, and that she had some deep psychological problems ("issues" these days), he broke it off.
She invited him over (in the afternoon) to "discuss things" and ended up getting him to bed, even though he already had plans for that evening. At the moment of climax (he tells me), she says "How dare you come inside of me? I've got you now!"
He was stunned. Although he tried everything to get her to prevent conceiving as a result of this, she would have no part of it. Even though he threatened to never see her again or have anything to do with the child, IF she were to conceive (rather than take the Morning After pill), she went ahead and chose to "listen to her ticking womb" (her exact words, allegedly).
Long story short... she did get pregnant and had a kid. She ended up suing him for child support. And, yes, she did admit to him that she was attracted to him not only physically, but also socio-economically (great job, good money). She never married or had another kid.
Poor kid, to have such a messed up mother, to indulge her "ticking womb" (her words, he told me).

My friend... poor guy paid for that mistake for the next 18 years, literally. Caching, caching. It made me feel 'normal', and religious about condoms and whom I dated. My view is that you don't just get involved with a person, but with their entire background, friends and family. That's enough to wade in, rather than jump in, I would think.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 22:35 | 5863700 Crawdaddy
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.Gov has it's head in the way of every relationship, married or not. and wants to steal your stuff. That simple. We have to chop the head off the guv snake. End the FED. If we do that then Satans minions will disolve into nothing (Bushes, Clintons, Kerrys, Cheneys et al).

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 04:45 | 5864167 New World Chaos
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Never stick your dick in crazy.  

Best way to never stick your dick in crazy is to stay away from Western women altogether.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 01:36 | 5864030 johnconnor
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MGTOW... look for it, who in the right mind want to get married and have kids on the western society when men have no reproductive rights (Women can keep or abort the baby without the father consent), family law is completely pro-women (men get financially screwed in most cases, sometimes they even have to pay child support for cuckholded kids, alimony, etc..) and women initiate divoce in more than 75% of the cases (irreconciliable differences/no fault divorce) becase they have a lot more to win.  

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:39 | 5862835 p00k1e
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Why does Round-Up only affect light skinned folk? 

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:27 | 5862980 kaiserhoff
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Fat Finger.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:26 | 5862990 kaiserhoff
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Because you don't encounter much Round-Up smokin' smack, or smackin' 'hoes.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 20:39 | 5863392 plane jain
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Why GMO labeling matters. Round Up ready baby.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 01:42 | 5864035 Thirst Mutilator
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 "Govs allow RoundUp which kills sperm count:"

 

Well I don't know about anyone else, but I'm thinking that being forced fed 24/7 articles featuring Hilary Clinton & Yellen might produce the same effect.

 

FFS ~ That blond Danish chick isn't really all that hot, but it's better than looking at Marla Hooch all day.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:59 | 5862910 stant
stant's picture

Well I got three and I am done. But I'd like take that blond on the burbon trail to do my part for tourism

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 19:04 | 5863112 GoldSilverBitcoinBug
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If I had a time machine like the alleged John Titor it's what I will do (even if I'm very uneasy to take someone life).

Guess I will just imprison her for the rest of her life...

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 00:57 | 5863966 fleur de lis
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Governments everywhere have been chipping away at the basic family unit and its values since the turn of the century. And they have laws in place to go after anyone who disagrees with the new anti-family structure. The end result is a disoriented society.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 01:26 | 5864011 Canoe Driver
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Point well stated. Poverty stops very few births from taking place. The real problem here is that feminism has morphed, in deeply flawed and reductive human perception, to simplistic man-hate. Most social order is simply inconsistent with the marginalization of roughly half the population on the basis of gender. IMHO, and in particular if one believes that social collapse is a cyclical phenomenon, the marginalization of the bottom 98% of males in prosperous societies is a significant factor in precipitating eventual social disintegration, followed hard upon by fiscal and monetary catastrophe and, often, war. From the ashes, society reorganizes itself again along patriarchal lines. The historical illustrations for this are ample, but far too prolix for this forum.

One might hope that post-modern Western society would have emerged with an awareness of these social dynamics which would have, in effect, broken any such cycle. But, alas, it is now manifest that people are simply inadequate to the task. Certainly, the Danes and Japanese are oblivious, and incapable of comprehending the nature of their own distress. There is no reason to hope any nation is more aware. The erroneous viewpoint that his lodged itself in governments worldwide is called "progressivism," which is simply the notion that there are no cycles, only "progress." How are you enjoying the progress such imbeciles have wrought?

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 11:36 | 5864479 fleur de lis
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Much of the blame goes to fakes in academia who fill the heads of one generation after another with unanatural goals and policies. Without them the family values that sustained sociesties for thousands of years would still be in place. 

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 03:32 | 5864139 Johnny Moscow
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Amen brother.

The man-hating Feminist culture that is all over the mainstream media sure doesn't help.

Nor does the fact that men get the short end of the stick in divorce so often. It's dangerous to get married in America given how frivolous divorce is these days. Oh and women initiate 70% of divorces.

Finally, what's ironic is these socialist welfare states have completely taken over the role of the male provider so women "dont' need a man"...they can live it up in their 20s on the government dole and then have kids later in life (if at all) without a man. Goes against biology and nature but these bozos just don't get it. No wonder the birth rates are so low. 

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 11:40 | 5864492 fleur de lis
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Feminists hate men but they hate non-compliant women even more. I can't understand men who promote these ideas unless they hate women too and assist rough, loud, pushy women to put down the others.  

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 09:17 | 5864316 JRobby
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It almost worked in "Terminator"

I thought the oligarchs wanted less population?

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 13:15 | 5864751 geno-econ
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Another Fed Bubble requiring a bailout when you cannot feed the offspring

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:02 | 5862659 Pinto Currency
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-

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:35 | 5862822 Sam Clemons
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Middle class people and poor people are too busy trying to "make it" instead of procreate.  Good job Federal Reserve.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 16:56 | 5862642 Stoploss
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the government is desperate to find solutions to what it calls its libido crisis.

Why would some one want to procreate into global tyranny???

The feminist cunts have it solved any way.  Dildo's that shoot sperm from donors. Now, only donors needed.

 

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:00 | 5862660 Winston Churchill
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God created men, because she couldn't get a dildo to mow the lawn.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:26 | 5862782 Midas
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If the Danish government would give away low-riders they would find their maternity wards teeming within a couple years.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:30 | 5862800 GeezerGeek
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Men mowing the lawn? There are better alternatives.

1. Why do you want to put all those Mexicans out of work?

2. Lots of 4-legged mammals eat grass and turn into meat popsicles.

3. That's what grubs and chinch bugs are for.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:32 | 5862806 Winston Churchill
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That was a bumper sticker in the UK back in the 70's.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:39 | 5862836 post turtle saver
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hey, Captain Literal... it was a joke, and a good one... just give WC the +1 he deserves and try not to take life so seriously...

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 19:54 | 5863257 ceilidh_trail
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Mirror much?

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 09:47 | 5864343 post turtle saver
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I don't know what that means... I doubt you do, either

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 19:19 | 5863156 logicalman
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Reminds me of this.

GOD Learns About LAWNS

GOD: Frank, you know all about gardens and nature.
What in the world is
going on down there on the planet?  What happened to
the dandelions,
violets, thistle and stuff I started eons ago?  I
had a perfect,
no-maintenance garden plan.  Those plants grow in
any type of soil,
withstand drought and multiply with abandon.  The
nectar from the
long lasting blossoms attracts butterflies, honey
bees and flocks of
songbirds.  I expected to see a vast garden of
colors by
now.  But all I see are these green rectangles.

ST. FRANCIS: It's the tribes that settled there,
Lord.  The
Suburbanites.  They started calling your flowers
"weeds" and went to
great lengths to kill them and replace them with
grass.

GOD: Grass?  But it's so boring.  It's not colorful.
 It
doesn't attract butterflies, birds and bees, only
grubs and sod
worms.  It's sensitive to temperatures.  Do these
Suburbanites
really want all that grass growing there?

ST. FRANCIS: Apparently so, Lord.  They go to great
pains to grow it
and keep it green.  They begin each spring by
fertilizing grass and
poisoning any other plant that crops up in the lawn.

GOD: The spring rains and warm weather probably make
grass grow really
fast.  That must make the Suburbanites happy.

ST. FRANCIS: Apparently not, Lord.  As soon as it
grows a little,
they cut it -- sometimes twice a week.

GOD: They cut it?  Do they then bail it like hay?

ST. FRANCIS: Not exactly, Lord.  Most of them rake
it up and put it
in bags.

GOD: They bag it? Why?  Is it a cash crop?  Do they
sell it?

ST. FRANCIS: No, Sir.  Just the opposite.  They pay
to throw it
away.

GOD: Now let me get this straight.  They fertilize
grass so it will
grow.  And when it does grow, they cut it off and
pay to throw it
away?

ST. FRANCIS: Yes, Sir.

GOD: These Suburbanites must be relieved in the
summer when we cut back
on the rain and turn up the heat.  That surely slows
the growth and
saves them a lot of work.

ST. FRANCIS: You aren't going to believe this Lord.
When the grass
stops growing so fast, they drag out hoses and pay
more money to water
it so they can continue to mow it and pay to get rid
of it.

GOD: What nonsense.  At least they kept some of the
trees.  That
was a sheer stroke of genius, if I do say so myself.
 The trees grow
leaves in the spring to provide beauty and shade in
the summer. In the
autumn they fall to the ground and form a natural
blanket to keep
moisture in the soil and protect the trees and
bushes.  Plus, as
they rot, the leaves form compost to enhance the
soil.  It's a
natural circle of life.

ST. FRANCIS: You better sit down, Lord.  The
Suburbanites have drawn
a new circle.  As soon as the leaves fall, they rake
them into great
piles and pay to have them hauled away.

GOD: No. What do they do to protect the shrub and
tree roots in the
winter and to keep the soil moist and loose?

ST. FRANCIS: After throwing away the leaves, they go
out and buy
something which they call mulch. They haul it home
and spread it around
in place of the leaves.

GOD: And where do they get this mulch?

ST. FRANCIS: They cut down trees and grind them up
to make the mulch.

GOD: Enough.  I don't want to think about this
anymore.  St.Catherine, you're in charge of the
arts.  What
movie have you scheduled for us tonight?

ST. CATHERINE: Dumb and Dumber, Lord. It's a real
stupid movie about...

GOD: Never mind, I think I just heard the whole
story from St. Francis.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 09:53 | 5864352 Thirst Mutilator
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 "God created men, because she couldn't get a dildo to mow the lawn."

 

God created men for the benefit the viewers shoving bon bons & Haagen Dazs down their pieholes to keep them busy watching sitcoms, & didn't think it was as funny to watch their heroines [the cackling nags] chase dildos all over the house trying to make them look like useless fools.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:32 | 5862780 edotabin
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They solved more than that.  Kids with no families, no values and no foundation.  The perfect targets for .govs to indoctrinate and tax for a lifetime as they move them along like cattle through the meat processing plant.

The funniest part is when the lesbians etc. love the government for "supporting" them and their rights :-)

Up next: The largest condom manufacturer in Denmark recalls 8 million condoms because of microscopic holes. All abortion doctors on vacation for 9.5 months.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:14 | 5862668 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Heheh. I wonder how they would react to my case. Our second is on its way.

Denmark is currently ruled by a right-wing and borderline xenophobic government, so I suppose this "Aryan superiority" and "preserve the species" alarmism should not come as a surprise.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:15 | 5862719 MrPalladium
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The Danes I know are all guilt ridden liberals who have swallowed the Hollywood human equality propaganda and believe that the average IQ in sub Saharan Africa is 130!!

The Vikings no longer exist.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:18 | 5862741 knukles
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Whatever, the breeding race is now on.   Muzzie and blacks against whitey.  I mean she is a white blonde babe, no?  No burkas for you!

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:29 | 5862788 MrPalladium
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Western oligarchs biggest fear is a shortage of gorgeous blonde chicks like the one in the commercial. That is the real reason why you see this commercial. They want women that look like the gal in the commercial to breed.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 21:55 | 5863602 Herd Redirectio...
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*whisper Stellenbosch South Africa, whisper*

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:24 | 5862773 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Oh, the drama.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:07 | 5862933 Bay of Pigs
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I dated a Danish princess and she (and her whole family) were all ultra left wingers and statists. Not conservative at all.

I'd say you are totally wrong about the gov't there too.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 20:41 | 5863403 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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Yeh, that comes with being an expat and out of the loop. I still had Pia Kjærsgaard in mind.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 20:52 | 5863433 Winston Churchill
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The Danes are just Scots that speak even leess intelligible english,from my experience.

Just as tight witheir own money, but very liberal with OPM.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 01:19 | 5864008 Thirst Mutilator
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The Zen philosopher Basho once wrote that a flute with no holes is NOT a flute... & a doughnut with no holes ~ Is a DANISH!

 

Nanananananananaanana

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 19:20 | 5863161 logicalman
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Average IQ is, by definition, 100

 

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 04:49 | 5864184 JLee2027
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Yes 100. Average is 60 in sub-Saharan Africa. I kid you not. After 400 years in the USA African-American IQ has risen to an average of 85, the result (my opinion) of white mixing and better food.  No wonder blacks want white women. 

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:35 | 5862820 GeezerGeek
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And why, exactly, should a bunch of "Aryan superiority" Danes be forced to pay taxes to support a bunch of immigrants who could not make their societies work in their birth countries? And I really wouldn't call the Danish government right-wing, which I take to mean small government. All big government types are left-wing: communism, socialism, fascism, etc.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:28 | 5863009 Quantum Nucleonics
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Eh.... Denmark's government is a coalition of the liberal and social democrat parties?  We're entitled to our opinions, but stop making up facts out of thin air.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 03:39 | 5864145 Johnny Moscow
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Bullsh*t Eirik. Your country is about as far left on the socialist spectrum as possible. You even have rules for debate that prevent people from expressing opinions that are "too extreme". You can't even have a rationale debate about immigration without one of your idiot left-leaning socialist politicians claiming "racism." 

And there is a war on men that places then as subservients to women that you seem to be blissfully unaware. 

You are fooling noone here. In particular people who've lived abroad outside the west (not in your Euro selfish socialist bubble that will implode soon enough).

 

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:37 | 5863041 Dead Man Walking
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They should do what we did, get rid of the borders and pay illegals 30k in eic credits.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 20:59 | 5863452 Chuck Walla
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How the Hell does the Onion even stay in business anymore?

 

FORWARD SOVIET DICKS!

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 04:36 | 5864179 luckylongshot
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So the corrupt politicians make life so difficult for the public that people lose the incentive to have children and then rather than owning up to being the source of the problem they spend taypayer money on blondes in lingerie .....we are really screwed.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 04:45 | 5864183 JLee2027
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Feminism, anti-male laws, making men look like idiots in TV and movies are the root cause of this. 

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 07:51 | 5864247 drendebe10
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The words "tax cut" are no where near within the lexicon of the pathological liar in chief fudgepacker 

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 11:46 | 5864511 Black Warrior W...
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...and with SPIES at the end.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 16:50 | 5862607 knukles
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Fuck me.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 16:51 | 5862612 Greenspazm
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What, here and now?

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 16:52 | 5862617 IridiumRebel
IridiumRebel's picture

sloppy seconds here

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 16:53 | 5862623 Winston Churchill
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I'll take a raincheck on that, but thanks for asking.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 16:56 | 5862637 Consuelo
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How about a 'raincoat' then...?

 

 

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 20:06 | 5863294 Handful of Dust
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Problem they're not having kids is that to Danish women, size matters.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 11:04 | 5864412 Arnold
Arnold's picture

Inadvertent monetary reference in this thread, no doubt.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:01 | 5862672 Greenspazm
Greenspazm's picture

I'm from the government, and I'm here to fuck your wife...

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:08 | 5862692 Winston Churchill
Winston Churchill's picture

Life, wife,same result.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 00:54 | 5863971 Dancing Disraeli
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We fucked some folks...

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 11:48 | 5864516 Black Warrior W...
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LMAO

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:39 | 5862831 GeezerGeek
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Not unless you're a young blonde female, just like in the video. And while it may be politically incorrect of me, if you're a transgender young blonde female, forget it.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:46 | 5862867 e_goldstein
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 Bring out the gimp!

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:27 | 5863000 tonyw
tonyw's picture

not while there are still dogs on the street.

 

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 19:23 | 5863169 logicalman
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An common response in UK to someone saying that is 'no thanks, not while there's dogs on the street!'

 

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 16:51 | 5862608 fiftybagger
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Maybe they could stop killing all their children and promoting homosexuality?  Just a thought.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:03 | 5862679 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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One cannot "promote" a sexual orientation, as they are fixed from birth.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:19 | 5862753 Winston Churchill
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Maybe some, but certainly not all.

My queer son was definitely a product of namby mambying from his mother.

I was jet setting around the world during his formative years, so I'm probably a lot

at fault for not supplying a male counter influence.

The biggest regret in my life.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:40 | 5862841 daveO
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With all the single moms, these days, this gov. induced epidemic will prob. get worse.

However, I personally know 2 guys who didn't switch teams until their kids were in high school. I knew a tomboy who was brought up (trained) that way by her dad, who wanted a boy. Narcissistic personalities are encouraged by the gov. sponsored victim 'cult'. It's choice. 

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 19:30 | 5863193 logicalman
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There's a lot of evidence that greater than normal estrogen leaking across the placenta is involved, so you may be off the hook, as far as that particular responsibility is concerned.

I don't believe it's a choice.

But what does it really matter.

I find it odd that people choose to define themselves by what sex they find attractive. There are so many more important issues.

I have 2 kids - both hetero. Both have said to me that they couldn't, in good conscience, bring another human being into this mad house.

Makes sense to me. I sometimes feel bad for inflicting this world on them!

 

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 19:53 | 5863254 Winston Churchill
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It would'nt to me except he is the raving fag type, almost a carricuture.

I want him to be happy, but cant put up with b/s.

I don't parade my heterosexuality from the treetops.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 22:24 | 5863669 Government need...
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Raving fag type?  Sounds like a real dancing queen.

Did he play a lot of ABBA around the house?

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 23:06 | 5863718 MsCreant
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Vivienne C. Cass, stages of homosexuality identity development.

 

1. Confusion- "I wonder if I am different from others?" Not everyone even asks themselves the question. 

2. Comparison- "I think I am different from other people."

3. Tolerance- "God damn it, I'm probably gay, I better put up with it and get used to it."

4. Acceptance- "I am gay, and it is okay."

5. Pride- I am so out, out, out, I love EVERYTHING GAY, gay clubs, gay church, gay softball team, the gay parade, everythings coming up HOMO!!!! <-----This is where your son would be in this stage theory. Because of the other stages, the fear, the repression, someone can be in this one for years.

6, Integration- The person is certainly gay, but it is just one facet of their lives. They are also a son, an occupation, a hobby, in sets of relationships. They have not turned their back on the identity, it has just lost its salience because they have worked through the other phases successfully. They are gay, and other things too.

I suspect it is a stage thang! Be of good cheer, a friend's son not only decided he wanted to be a woman (he is 17), he has mapped out where in Thailand he needs to go for the surgery, the doctor, the airline, the pricing, how he intends to pay his mother back for it....

Best wishes.

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 01:24 | 5864019 Thirst Mutilator
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Sam Kinison, stages of homosexuality identity developmemt.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=876pmxUFYmY

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 01:29 | 5866283 Socratic Dog
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If your dog eats a turd, you have to shoot him.

If your son's a gay caricature, I'm thinking it might be the same.

Except outside the west.  I've told this story before here, but in SE Asia it is common for ladyboys to decide it's time to stop playing around and get serious, around the age of 30 or so.  They go straight, take a wife or two, and have kids.  Give up on the boys completely.  I know this from personal experience (err, a brother-in-law, not my own experience) as well as hearsay and observation.

Does put a different perspective on the "gay by choice" argument.  As in, who gives a fuck?

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:57 | 5862906 nodhannum
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That is BS.  Wehn I was doing summer stock as a dancer I saw a number of very young dancers who were shy but not gay and their sexual identities were not "fixed" from birth.  They were fixed in the shower by older dancers (aka chicken hawks) who showed them their first sexual pleassure before they had the confidence to approach girls.  Thats when they got "fixed".  They tried that shite on me but my mother had prewarned me about men who like men.  I thought she was kidding until that experience as I didn't think that guys could go for guys.  Saved my ass....literally!

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 13:54 | 5864832 JLee2027
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Perfectly said. 

There is always a choice. No one is "forced" to do anything.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:36 | 5863038 malek
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Oh, okay... but IQ is not fixed from birth, right, as that's the basis for all that equal outcome crap? (not equal opportunity, dats rayciss!)

Sat, 03/07/2015 - 16:26 | 5865155 Dull Care
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but you can somehow pick your gender, right?

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:26 | 5862785 G.O.O.D
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Amerika is importing the 50 million killed since roe vs wade to keep the ss moving forward. unintended consequences indeed.

Sun, 03/08/2015 - 01:21 | 5866271 Socratic Dog
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"Maybe they could stop killing all their children and promoting homosexuality?"

Dat's rayciss!

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 16:52 | 5862614 HonkyShogun
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You don't really need to advertise hot blondes. We already know.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:27 | 5862787 mkkby
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Yep, if they all looked like her the birth rate would be fine.  The problem is they all look like... well, what most american women look like.  Which is to say viagra plus beer gogles plus circus tent sized grocery bags.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:42 | 5862846 GeezerGeek
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Janet Reno? Hillary Clinton? Wookie?

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 18:34 | 5863029 Joe Panama
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HEY!   What's wrong with Wookies?   Some people like furry... isn't there a whole underground about that?   Meeting up in big dances wearing bear costumes.   Gotta respect diversity you know!

And honestly... if that was the only choice... most people would choose the Wookie over the other two.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 19:33 | 5863197 logicalman
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I think you would find a LOT fewer hippos in Scandinavia than US.

 

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 16:52 | 5862615 Hohum
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I wouldn't call it weird exactly.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:44 | 5862857 GeezerGeek
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Not nearly as weird as those NFP numbers earlier today. Or anything from the mouth of any politician.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 16:52 | 5862616 metastar
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Don't they have test tube factories in Japan yet?

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 16:52 | 5862618 Greenspazm
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Japanese Government Bonds, when smoked, are reputed to have an aphrodisiacal effect.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 16:52 | 5862619 Which is worse ...
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Send that Danish chick in the video over to my house. I'm just here to help. 

It's really difficult being so selfless, but someone has to do it. 

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 16:55 | 5862620 IridiumRebel
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Immigration from the Middle East may help!

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 17:03 | 5862677 Greenspazm
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Is that an extra-length dick in your avatar?

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 20:48 | 5863421 nuke ISIS now
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Hey Iridium faggot...What a puss, you drop an insult IN another thread then say your leaving because you do not want to hear the response?, dont want to stick around for the retort?  tsk tsk

FYI, No one can hear you with Putin's dick in your mouth, so before you post, its best to remove that cock 

 

FUCK YOU

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 21:17 | 5863487 IridiumRebel
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There you go projecting again....this is my last address to you. You're no intelligent enough to debate so you use ad hominem attacks. Simply put, you are stupid and have the mental capacity of a middle schooler. Fuck you. I look forward to you being booted.

Fri, 03/06/2015 - 21:58 | 5863609 nuke ISIS now
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Iridium,oh no not the old boot trick,  your itellectual capacity is astounding, you are a regular wordsmith, "you are stupid"..

In fact, you lack the apparent cognitive ability to debate, as it is clearly beyond your ken to do so. It is an inconvenient truth that your beloved "leader" Putin, is a murderous dictator..

In fact I have forgotten more than you will ever learn inyour uselss liftime. I;d hzard a gues that your portly arcass stands at 300+ lbs...put down that big mac man, 

Unlike a sad sackless bastrd like you, I have outside interests other than spending the entirety of your worthless existence on a pro russian propaganda site

 

In the immortal words o Tony Montana, "why doan you try to see if you head fits up you ass..."

 

PUTZ... 

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