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Estonia Fears Being "Overrun By Russia In Minutes", Sweden Sends Troops To Baltic Sea Island

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"Gotland is a big worry for us. It could be overrun by Russia in minutes and then all of us would be highly vulnerable to an attack," warned one politician recently as it appears NATO fear-mongering and Russia sabre-rattling is having a significant effect on many of the Baltic Sea's border nations. As The FT reports, Sweden will put troops back on the strategic Baltic Sea island of Gotland after a decade-long absence and will also step up military exercises around the island involving the army, navy and air force. “Hunting submarines is a priority area," Sweden's defense minister explained, adding that "everything we do is a part of underlining Swedish sovereignty."

 

 

As The FT reports,

Peter Hultqvist, Sweden’s defence minister, said he would recommend placing a company of about 150 soldiers on Gotland, which lies almost midway between mainland Sweden and Latvia in the middle of the Baltic Sea. Sweden will also step up military exercises around the island involving the army, navy and air force.

 

“Gotland has a strategic location in the Baltic Sea and this is also an indication to the outside world that we recognise that Gotland is very important. Everything we do is a part of underlining Swedish sovereignty,” he told Swedish newspaper Dagens Nyheter.

 

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The three Baltic states, fearing the rise of Russian activity and influence in the region, had nervously eyed the lack of permanent troops on the island as well as Sweden’s status in not belonging to Nato. “Gotland is a big worry for us. It could be overrun by Russia in minutes and then all of us would be highly vulnerable to an attack,” a senior Estonian politician said recently.

 

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It underlines the depth of concern in the Nordic country, which has historically portrayed itself as neutral, over Russia’s behaviour in Ukraine and the Baltic Sea. Russian aeroplanes have violated Swedish airspace and practised a dummy bombing raid on Stockholm in recent years while a hunt for a foreign submarine last year is widely thought to have involved the Russians.

 

“Hunting submarines is a priority area,” Mr Hultqvist said of the increased spending. “We have had incidents that show it is very important to have increased capacity for anti-submarine warfare. We must do what we can to keep and develop our skills.”

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None of this will end well.. so buy European stocks (especially German ones).

 

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Fri, 03/13/2015 - 21:11 | 5887576 Reaper
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Spouting sound and fury and signifying nothing.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 21:11 | 5887577 Anunnaki
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When did the West become a collection of bedwetters?

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 21:24 | 5887613 q99x2
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Why's everyone attacking Russia. I know why. Because it is the most valuable land mass of this century.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 21:28 | 5887621 mijev
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Just change the name to "Gotland for Russia."

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 21:28 | 5887622 lakecity55
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They musta got a lotta furren aid to start acting like 'fraidy cats.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 21:34 | 5887639 ReactionToClose...
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To all the clever sardonic posters here mocking the Baltic States, Poland and EEurope (I have many relatives from that part of the world).......I sincerely hope not one of you intellectual losers has your wife, mother, daughters, sisters or sons raped and killed. Is it clear! You make assinine volatile comments while people are in legitimate fear of subjugation (again).

Enjoy your miserable freedom to spew vile obnoxious anti-semitic (I am not nor is any one in my family jewish) comments. Heil Hitler to all ! Mein Fuhrer!

Hunt me down some of you creeps......please........I have sufferd more than any of you weak sisters could ever think of enduring.........tough folks don't make vile comments......like so many here like to do. I repeat more anonymous losers.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 21:46 | 5887653 fleur de lis
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The Baltic States and others have potentially put themselves in the position of fighting a war that has nothing to do with them. That is exceedingly stupid and if you are so concerned about all the killing you might wonder why these stupid countries are sticking their noses where they shouldn't. 

There is no good reason why Poland should participate in hostility against Russia, a vastly bigger neighboring country, nor any of the other places you mention. They are both Slavs and should be building bridges. This is between Russia and Ukraine and there has been enough killing without other butinsky countries making things worse. And if they do get clobbered it's their own fault.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 23:21 | 5887879 Anunnaki
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Catholic/Uniate bigotry against Orthodox Russia.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 02:23 | 5888098 Boogity
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You nailed it.   The hostility of the Poles, Lithuanians, and Galicians (present-day western Ukrianians) towards Russia is not rooted in non-Slav vs. Slav, or even in the brutal USSR occupation, but it is in fact at its core about the centuries' long efforts by Catholics to subjugate / destroy the Russian Orthodox Church and its flock. 

Hell, the Catholic Poles-Lithuanians (along with the Galicians) invaded and occupied Russia several times during the "Time of Troubles" in the early 17th century.  In 1611 they nearly burned Moscow to the ground, while slaughtering thousands of Orthodox Russians, including women and children.  In 1612, the Catholic Poles-Lithuanians even tortured and starved to death Hermogenes, the Patriarch of the Russian Orthodox Church, when he rufused to convert to Catholicism and support their brutal occupation. Hermogenes was later Canonized by the Orthodox Church, but, needless to say, not by the violent turd-burgling pedophiliac Catholic Church.     

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:40 | 5888604 Anunnaki
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Kristina at For Russ had a story about how the Uniate bigots and Neo Nazi Ukrainians had burned and destroyed over 50 Orthodox churches

And that was last spring. I'm sure that number has doubled or tripled since

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:17 | 5889063 Volkodav
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Vile corrupt deviant second Rome

vs

                     resurrected, risen Third Rome

 

"Two Romes have fallen, but the third stands,

 and there will not be a fourth"

- Letter of Philotheus of Pskov to Tsar Basil III -

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 03:11 | 5888139 basho
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sorry, your post makes too much common sense for the trolls here to digest.

the rest of us agree with you.

bravo

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 21:52 | 5887672 Volkodav
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kind of vague.... 

can't decipher all that..

What is your definition of Semitic, and what is it to you?

can't tell where you're coming from...all over the place..

Hitler?

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 22:38 | 5887799 dsty
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It's called consentration camp humor.

It is what people do to relieve stress.

I am not making this up.

It is not all self righteous indignation.

Anyway, no body gets away with noth'n

You can't escape judgment from the judge of the universe.

Something we all know deep down.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 23:19 | 5887873 Anunnaki
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I empathize with your family's plight.

Please keep the Ukrainian rapists and murderers away from your women folk

Putin's Russians are not ones to concern yourself with. Ukrainians love using rape as a weapon of terror

http://slavyangrad.org/2014/10/14/the-march-of-heroes/

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 00:05 | 5887959 Niall Of The Ni...
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What? Did your grandma tell you she got your mother by a Russian rapist? Because grandma was a fucking liar. Your grandfather was a Kraut whom she thought she'd squeeze a little more money out of by letting him cum inside her thinking she was safe that week. 

Whose fault is it the Poles and Balts keep siding with Germany in suicidal wars against Russia? Because it's not Russia's. All the Russian people want is to be secure enough in their own home that they can rest assured they'll be left in peace to live and do as they think best. It's the Germans and Americans who keep trying to break in and steal everything not nailed down, buying the co-operation of fifth columns with empty promises of a share of the spoils.

Once they were finished with the Jews, the Germans' next order of business was to gas the Poles. If it weren't for a generation of Russian boys who died to save the motherland, they'd have done just that. Pity you're not grateful to the Russians who saved Nazi lovers like your grandma from her own folly. Maybe one day your grandchildren will be grateful to Putin for saving them from the banksters.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 00:15 | 5887972 TeaClipper
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Thank your relatives for being part of the buffer zone, though i suspect most of them are probably in my fucking country already.

BTW, The Baltic States and Poland are part of Eastern Europe.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 03:08 | 5888135 basho
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cry me a river clown.

Latvia, a couple of months ago, was overrun by nato bums molesting their women.

you don't know much about the history of any of those lands and their treatment of minorities including your precious semites and gypses.

just for your information most jews are not semites.

in fact, the semitic jew is on the bottom of the societal ladder in israel.

take your sob-sister BS and stuff it and then get off your dead ass and put your decadent country back on track.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 06:42 | 5888284 RisingSun
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Da fuq? Give me a link about "Nato bums" molesting someone here? Thanks.

It is true that many of the ZH Putlers fanboys are sitting in their comfortable homes in a country that they "hate" on all day long.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:05 | 5889043 Max Steel
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http://russia-insider.com/en/politics_ukraine/2014/11/07/01-04-44pm/poli... here it is scum . Let that sink in hard in your empty cerebrum

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 22:10 | 5887714 hotrod
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Russia is coming,  All NATO countries need updated weapons as Putin snickers.

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 23:21 | 5887880 iofera
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Vlad's likely in a coma now - or worse - and all because

YOU INCOMPETENT ZEROES CAN'T EVEN MAN HIS SUICIDE WATCH WITHOUT SCREWING UP!

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 23:48 | 5887928 Rock On Roger
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Squawk On

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 02:59 | 5888130 basho
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who is the other fool that used to post the same sentence over and over again? or is it the same fool.? lmao

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 23:19 | 5887874 iofera
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Russia is a menace and must be fenced in.

Remember, Vlad's keen to reconstitute the failed Soviet State, only under 'new management'.

Keep scratching your heads, Zeroes, you'll figure it out eventually.

 

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 23:30 | 5887896 dsty
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actually the last empire is iron and clay

iron being Russia and it's hoard

It's not going away.

clay, being the west, will not win.

They share power together.

An unstable mix.

And those will be the last days of mans rule.

Picking sides won't help.

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 00:25 | 5887991 TeaClipper
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Who ya gonna call?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 02:57 | 5888129 basho
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wow, what a mental giant you are.

and you are going to do the fencing. lol.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:12 | 5888531 Anunnaki
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Repeat a lie often enough and hope the fools believe you

Fri, 03/13/2015 - 23:37 | 5887911 iofera
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Fri, 03/13/2015 - 23:59 | 5887948 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Best yet.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 00:27 | 5887989 Dathedr
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Paranoia is running strong in those potato Baltic client states, isn't it?

 

You know Russians are not alowed to vote or hold office in those potato Baltic states, hm? It's being thus since fall of the USSR; quarter of a century now. They have an instituion in their law called "non-citizens" which basically means that they are not allowed to vote or hold office, but otherwise have all the rights regular, common citizens proudly enjoy (they also have different passport than other common citizens, but that is cosmetics, something irrelevant completely). But I for one do not hold that against those Baltic states. And neither do Russians living there as it seems, for not once have I heard them complaining about it. They know it is not their house - their land - and as we all know in someone elses' home you don't get to be asked about your take on the matters there; you don't get to vote about anything. But that is, of course, not common policy in the West. In the West everyone gets to vote. Animals too. Especially animals, I would say. It seems strange then to see the prime Western axiom of democracy not being respected in that most eastern part of the West just right across the pond from democratic Scandinavia, don't you think?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 00:31 | 5888005 TeaClipper
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They wash cars now, potato farming is so 20th Century

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 00:43 | 5888020 Dathedr
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Well, washing cars or potato farming is an honest work. I have no problem with that.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 00:45 | 5888022 Dathedr
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Nice picture btw. Keep up the good work. :)

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 02:55 | 5888128 basho
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...and repaint Bradley's and Abram's while congratulating themselves on not being occupied countries. lol

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 01:11 | 5888042 Joe A
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The treatment of minorities is always a good way to stir up ethnic hatred. That led the Serb minority in Croatia to rebel against Zagreb when Croatia called independence from Yugoslavia (against the Yugoslav constitution and against international law). Notwithstanding the crimes the Serbs committed in Vukovar, they had very good reasons to fear for their fate (read up on treatment of Serbs in Croatia during WWII). Tudjman of Croatia was imposing all sort of discriminatory measures against the Serbs. When they complained about it he said: "let them go elsewhere". He was also famous for saying "I am glad that my wife is neither Jew nor Serb". He was supposed to be the president of all people living in Croatia. Eventually, most Serbs were ethnically cleansed from Croatia but the world press didn't care about that because after all, they were only Serbs and a careful picture was made to present the Serbs being the only ones guilty for the breakup of Yugoslavia and the war crimes committed there. Yugoslavia simply had to disappear because in the post SU era there was no place for a Socialist regime in Europe even though that Socialist regime was not all that bad altogether.

If someone wants to create a conflict with Russia, the above scenario will be played out in one of these Baltic states: stir up ethnic hatred, have some hate incident or some false flag and rather sooner than later you have an ethnic conflict going out of control. Milosevic never went in to save the Serbs in either Bosnia or Croatia but what will Putin do?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 01:52 | 5888079 Dathedr
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You don't have to teach me about treatment of minorities, Western libatardo! I am a Serb and I know well what Westerers Croatos are. Don't teach me your Western libtardo learnings, degenerate! We Serbs had had in today Craotia our own land. Go and educate yourself how first Yugoslavia came to be -- by merger of Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenians (notice, we Serbs were the majority there!) with Kingdom of Serbia. That is how Yugoslavia came to be. That land was stolen from us. And nobody gives a shit about those Baltic states. They are as important as fart in the fog. And you stupid degenerate, there was Croatia and Croats from even before 7th century, but there had never been Bosnians prior to 1993. There is no country called Bosnia today. Bosnia is just one of 3 lands which makes that Western colony called Bosnian and Hezegovina. Herzegovina is 2nd and Republic of Serbska is the 3rd land, but country called Bosnia does not exist and never did, retardo!

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 03:33 | 5888134 Joe A
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I am not Serb but I live in Belgrade although I currently am residing in Sarajevo.

Your way of 'reasoning' and articulating yourself is not uncommon with many Serbs that like to watch Pink TV and that are big fans of Sjesel, one of the big pricks in Yugoslavia that stirred up ethnic hatred.

You think you are cool by using bad language but you only prove what kind of bad debater you are. Your way of reasoning is very weak and deflects from what you want to say which probably is bullshit anyway.

Go and live in your fantasy world of Greater Serbia and live in 1389 while the rest of world moves on in the 21st century. I am not unsympathetic to Serbs and they way they were and are still treated but you and your likes are bad representatives of Serbia. But that is not uncommon with peasant folks in Serbia that like to listen to Ceca. Serbia needs more people like Djukovic and not peasants like you.

Oh, and with your 30 weeks on ZH you don't need to lecture anybody here on ZH. First learn how to reason in a civil way, educate yourself on the world and then come back.

Edit: In your postings above you describe well how you think of minorities and how they should be treated.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 03:42 | 5888150 Dathedr
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Scum, don't lie. You are a fucking Western libtardo -- natural born idiot and liar. We wish no greater Serbia, only those which had belonged to us prior to some unions with other south Slavic nations and their lands. Nothing more. It is ours to decide with whom we wish to live and how, scum, not yours! And there is no Djukovic you fucking retard. You probably think of Zoran Djinjic, hm? There is onyl Djindjic and Djukanovic, no Djukovic exists or ever have in political arena. The man your Western intel agencies murdered was Zoran Djindjic. He wasn't very fond of parting with Kosovo you know, so you killed him. Seselj is Serbian icon, a giant; the youngest PhD of former Yougoslavia. At that time though, it meant something; it's not like PhDs of this time, and his achievements stand to prove it. But more importantly, he is a man who single-handedly crushed that globalist court of your oligarchs, scum! So show some respect, libtardo!

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 04:00 | 5888171 Joe A
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Normally I would not pursue more communications with retards like you. But what the heck.

I misspelled Djokovic's name. The tennis player. He is a real example for Serbia. Djinjic was murdered by Legia and his men. Djinjic was a darling of the West and they had no reason to kill him. Again, you talk nonsense.

Sorry I misspelled Djokovic's name. But since you make spelling mistakes allover the place I think I am allowed one. Especially considering that the average IQ in Serbia is 89 (in Croatia it is 90 and they think it is a reason to be superior over Serbs). Mine varies between 129 and 131. Your 89 only puts it 19 point above full retard. Yours is probably even lower than 89 because you are a fan of Sjesel, a cancer for the country and the Western Balkans. A hate preacher and a war monger.

Oh, and your president is a peasant who loved your beloved Sjesel. He would like Serbia to join Russia rather today than tomorrow. PM Vucic was also in love with Sjesel before he dumped him for his own political career. And then there is of course Dacic, henchman of Milosevic. Altogether these men plunged Yugoslavia (along with Tudjman and Izetbegovic) into darkness in the 90s, helped by German and American secret services and other players. Now these clowns are still in power and reinvented themselves and they are currently in the process of selling Serbia to the lowest bidder.

Serbia is a mess thanks to these men that you so much admire.

I work for an international organization trying to improve lives of all people in the whole Balkans. Although there are many good and capable people in the Balkans, they don't end up being in power. Instead are the folk singer type of politicians with their fake PhD.That is because people like you vote for them.

People in the Balkans are 'rather lazy than tired' meaning that they don't like to work hard. They like to sit in kafana sitting on their asses drinking their rakia and 'domaci kafa' (other words for Turkish coffee). And they like to stare at their belly buttons complaining how bad they have it and that that is all the fault of the rest of the world.

The problem of the whole Balkans is that they never had the reformation, just like the catholic countries. Because of that they don't take pride in hard work and achievement. As long as these countries are not willing to make sacrifices and always look for a short cut they will never get anywhere. These countries need new generations of people with a brain and good work attitude. And that well.....that excludes you.

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 04:54 | 5888188 Dathedr
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You wouldn't have misspelled anyting if you had lived in Sarajevo like you said. You are fucking liar and an idiot -- just like I said, libtardo! And, so you know, Croatos think they are superior to anyone other than their fellow Westerners, it has nothing to do with anything other than that. Croatos always thought of themselves as Westerners, we did not, and that is the reason for most problems this part of the world has seen, libard! All problems came from you Westerners, libtard scum! Muslims, today Bosnians, also think of themselves as Westerners, just like Albanians do. They too think they are superior to non Westerners, libtard. You are too stupid to know anything about anything, libtard! You are awfully dumb fuck, retardo!

 

Maybe you should start using some drugs (or start using something havier if you are on something atm), hm, libtardo? I think it would really do you some good. Perhaps it would increase your intelligence so you wouldn't be so dumb, hm? Maybe it would cure you. lol

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 05:44 | 5888243 Joe A
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With every reaction and posting that you make you show more and more what kind of a peasant you really are (and that is not meant as an insult to farmers).

You lack capacities to conduct a normal dialogue, your competences to reason logically, rationally and in a civil way are worse than I have ever seen here on ZH. Most people on ZH have something intelligent to say whether you would agree with it or not. Some reactions are very witty. Yours are neither and are unintelligent but that is common of Sjesel loving folk in Serbia.

You have here on ZH a platform with people favorably thinking of Serbia and how it got treated during the 90s and then you go and spoil it all with your peasantry remarks.

Really, get an education, stop watching Pink and stop jerking off on Ceca and her artificial tits. Go out and meet some people. Go travel and see that people around the world are more or less the same and perhaps there will be hope for you.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:35 | 5888976 Dathedr
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Peasants are warriors, scum! Rome was built by peasants. When it got trasformed into urban scum like yourself, it died very quickly. And you don't have to look for reasons why far off -- looking at yourself, scum, will provide all the needed answers instantly. My reasoning and logic are far beyond yours, scum! That should be crystally clear to you, and I believe it indeed is -- it's just helplessness and despair speaking out of you. However, I will have you know I will not tolerate your insolence, you stupid, wicked, degenerate Brit. You are Brit, aren't you? Only British cunts speak like that... it's like listening a fag. Well, fag, find some sharp object and insert it into your ass. I know you want to, you filthy Anglo degenerate!

 

p.s.

As for some sympathy you are apparently reffering to, I couldn't care less about some libtardo sympathy, scum! I need sympathy from you like I need to infected with a cancer ffs! Better start looking for that object to insert into your rectum, degenerate! Now fuck off, cunt!

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:42 | 5888996 Volkodav
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I think the Serb knows more than you.

You have not lived it...

I Rus, Swabian, Bohemian know the history

I know his enemies

whether his emotions or articulate enough for your standards, he lives and experienced in real

while you critical oversee much, your cost is nothing, and bite with petty comments

who made you judge of him?

 

 

 

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 06:18 | 5888263 One Eyed Jack
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I neither agree with you or the focus of your rant. However why is it on this stupid fucking site whenever there is a disagreement it automatically devolves into "why you've only been on this site for xx weeks" etc. admittedly I've onl been posting here for about 4/5 months but I've been a reader on the site for about 4 years. You people on here act as if long term posting rights on this site is as if citizenship in the holy city has been conferred and you are speaking your edicts from on high

Just make your point. I don't care how long you've been here. I am sure I've been on earth longer than you have does that make your point any less valid ...no

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 03:07 | 5888138 TeaClipper
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Serbians love drinking their own poison, a depressed and depressing nation for sure.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 02:03 | 5888085 Dathedr
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Here is what Bosnia originally was. And Croats had had their own kingdom under Volhynia and east of Bohemia. They were a tribe which have existed for thousands of years perhaps, but Bosnians just like the so-called Ukranians never have. They are some arbitrary Western construct, nothing more.

 

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Serb_lands_in_the_9th_century_%28...

 

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Central_and_Eastern_Europe_around...

 

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Serbia960AD.png

 

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Srbsko_IX_ru.svg

 

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Migrations_serbes_avant_1000.png

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 02:53 | 5888126 basho
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"If someone wants to create a conflict with Russia, the above scenario will be played out in one of these Baltic states: stir up ethnic hatred, have some hate incident or some false flag and rather sooner than later you have an ethnic conflict going out of control. "

it's not working that well anymore. 

you need a new script.

tell that to nudelman and mad mccain

your "land of the fee and home of the knave" is sucking wind.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 01:05 | 5888026 Dathedr
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I can't wait till we ban all the Bosnians and Albanians from voting. Ah, that will be the day! Those which do not own the house, will not have a say in the matters concerning the house! It has always been thus. Only degenerate libtards managed to corrupt it bringing their Negroes and Muslims to vote, fucking idiots!

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 03:17 | 5888030 Dathedr
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And let us also hope you European Americans will have your own country in North America so you can enjoy the rights of having your own homeland too. Why should you keep paying rent to syndicate? Are you not able to make your own home? Would you wish all North America to turn into a Negro land some day, hm? Something to think about. Think long and hard, decide, and then go for it!

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 00:57 | 5888034 Joe A
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That island looks like it has strategic value but did anybody here read Tom Clancy's Red Storm Rising? In that book in prelude to a war with the West, the SU occupies Iceland and then controls the Atlantic in order to attack US carrier groups and other ships. Now THAT is a strategically placed island. NATO of course knows this very well. Just like they knew that Crimea is very important to control the Black Sea. The West must have known they were taking a chance with Crimea when they supported regime change in Ukraine. The thing is, losing Crimea and the war in Eastern Ukraine gave NATO the motive what it wanted to do for a long time (but which is restricted by a 1997 agreement with Russia): Putting NATO troops right on Russia's doorstep.

Both Russia and NATO have developed all sorts of war scenarios. They are currently playing with them and putting them into practice. What can possibly go wrong?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 02:42 | 5888119 fleur de lis
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Pure greed got the better of NATO. They knew very well that it was a big chance to put bases on the Ukrainian-Russian border. They tried that stunt before using Turkey and it turned into the Cuban missile crisis.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 02:46 | 5888123 basho
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...and don't forget the EU.

their stupidity runs in parallel with nato

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:36 | 5888583 fleur de lis
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This is a Russian TV news discussion about current events, Compare the astute observations and sharp, quick thinking as opposed to the dullards on our news shows who keep telling us the same fake stories. Also notice how they analyse our leaders and us. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiOiSQG5iVY

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 04:03 | 5888173 Dathedr
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North Atlantic Terrorist Organization does not need to create any sort of war scenario, libtardo. The mere existance of the largest terrorist organization in the world, which dwarfs ISIS, Al Qaeda and any other Muslim terrorist cell by many a order of magnitude, is enough. That terrorist organization has attacked more sovereign countries (and it only ever attacks sovereign countries, because it is a private army of Western oligarchs; and as we all know, torn in side of Western oligarchy is sovereignity of other countries and people, because they wish to rule the world) in its 60 years of existence than most countries have since their birth. And there are some very old countries out there. China for instance has 5.000 years of history. India too.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 02:44 | 5888122 basho
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150 swedes on an island.

now that is a deterrent.

hopefully they are a bit more conscious than the idiots they have chasing submarines.

must have something to do w/ the swedish proswcutors going to the UK to interview Assange.

another swedish sh*t pile.

not much to be said about the Baltics if the little Latvian troll posting here is of any indication of their collective intelligence.

anybody that thinks the ussa is going to haul their shit out of the fire is absolutely, unequivocally stupid.

so LEL keep up the nazi marches and demos neo-con nuddleman and mad mccain will be handing out sandwiches

lmao

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 03:15 | 5888141 talisman
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Swedes have convinced themselves that the Loch Ness monster
has moved over from Scotland to Sweden and now speaks Russian
with a Swedish lisp.They have sighted Nessie and they think she is
the advance spearhead of that invisible Russian army that
crossed over into Donetsk and is now invading Sweden....
They are frantically holding seances and working on improving
their ghost hunting photography to obtain evidence,

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 03:32 | 5888149 talisman
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Incidentally, you might mention to your cartographer that the region
he/she has labeled RUSSIAN TERRITORY on your map has been named....
It is called Kaliningrad, and should be so identified--
unless, of course, he/she chooses for sake of mapping consistency
to similarly relabel those regions that he/she has identified as
ESTONIA/LATVIA/LITHUANIA/POLAND simply as "EU TERRITORY"....

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 04:08 | 5888178 anonymice
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 If McCain wants war with Russia, fine. It's just that I would prefer the war zone was in front of John McCain's house, and not in front of mine. 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:38 | 5888590 fleur de lis
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If fighting starts anywhere near McCain you'll find him hiding in the closet of the nearest kindergarten.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 04:22 | 5888190 Free_Spirit
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Time for Germany to take a bit of leadership and end all this tub-thumping before someone gets hurt.    These Baltic states just want money and investment from US airbases,  they know there's no risk of Putin invading. Strategically why would he want to ??     120 Swedes all mincing around  Estonia is for comic value only.  

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 08:48 | 5888403 HowdyDoody
Sat, 03/14/2015 - 11:00 | 5888647 fleur de lis
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That was funny! 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:23 | 5888952 'argar the 'orrible
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You couldn't be more right, Free_Spirit, If Russia wanted to they could walk into any of those Baltic states just for the exercise and back out again before nato/usa had finished their morning coffee. But, as you said, why would they want to?.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 04:46 | 5888207 Lex_Luthor
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If there was a time to save the world by crashing US economy, I think it is about NOW. What they are waiting for? Too oportunistic, wanting to earn some additional US toilet paper before summer?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 04:49 | 5888210 Silverymoon
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"Gotland is a big worry for us. It could be overrun by Russia in minutes and then all of us would be highly vulnerable to an attack"

 

BUT Sweden, you are already being overrun by Muslim hordes that YOU invite thousands of every week to the Mainland, so tell me, which is worse?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 05:54 | 5888254 Batman11
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Russia could end the world in minutes.

The nukes are still there and MAD (mutually assured destruction) is still a real risk.

There is nothing anyone can do about it, get used to it.

(It didn't happen in the forty years of the cold war and there is no reason it should happen now).

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 06:00 | 5888256 Batman11
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As far as I know the closest anyone came to starting MAD was the US due to the threat of Russian missiles in Cuba.

US leaders were then relatively sane .........

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 06:12 | 5888261 Batman11
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Iraq didn't have WMDs and Saddam was toast.

North Korea has WMDs and appears safe.

Russia has lots and lots of WMDs ..........

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 07:31 | 5888332 Jano
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mILLIES IN Cuba have been there, because USSA has positioned missiles in Turkey prior to Cuba.

Cuba was the answer to american threat and expansionism

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:11 | 5888935 Volkodav
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Turkey/Cuba missle crisis

Kruschev was actually the most level headed..JFK less and Bobby pushed war..

I am not supporter of Kruschev, but this he saved according to others involved

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 06:22 | 5888265 RisingSun
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Pretty much every ex-soviet country around Russia are sick of them.Everything is fine in Russia according to ZH, such a powerful country, GDP per capita is one of the lowest in Europe. According to some nuts on here, if Latvians can get 1 potato, Russians cant even get that much...

Conspiracy nuts should name Putler their religious leader.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 08:03 | 5888356 Dathedr
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Are you from Latvia or Lithuania, Nazi? Is Hitler your idol? Are you a homo? Is that why you call Putin "Putler," hm, Nazi? You are a Nazi from Baltic, am I right? Are you proud of your Latvian/Lithuanian (I always confuse those two; which potato country is bigger between the two: Latvia or Lithuania? lol) servitude to Hitler during WW2? Answer those questions, Nazi! And don't be afraid. Remember, your beloved Hitler hates wimps. Be courageous and anwser the questions.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 08:27 | 5888378 RisingSun
Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:10 | 5889056 Max Steel
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He is a fascist canukie .

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 07:01 | 5888303 drdolittle
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War is the health of the state. So, start a european army, start a war. Any country trying to grexit gets told, sorry, it's wartime and all, can't have divisions. Plus, people always fall for the patriotic bullshit. Everyone around me thinks Putin's gonna invade any minute. They get quiet when I mention Russia sending troops to an obviuosly failed state of Mexico. It's confusing to them, but them the msm clears it all up for them. Putin bad, importing foreigners who mooch off you good. Okay, lets go kick some Ruskie ass!

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 07:10 | 5888308 Jano
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Overrun?

There are 40% of Russians in the country, native Russians, b orn in Estonia. And they will demographicaly defeat Estonians, because they have higher birth rates.

Russians do not need any army in Estonia.

The "estonian" Russians will take the territory in 20 years, within one generation.

Simmilar things happen in Sweeden. Sweeden will be overrun by import of excessive biomass from Asia and Afrika, predominantly mohamedan faith.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 07:25 | 5888325 RisingSun
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What da fuq? 40%? Higher birth rates???????? Seriously did RT or RIA tell you that...so much bullshit in your post. Look at the demographics. 25% not 40%, Russians are DECLINING not increasing in Estonia.

Before Russians occupied Estonia, they had 8.2% Russian population in 1925, peaked at 30% in 1989, now in 2014 its 25%.

Estonians in meantime increased from 61% in 1989 to 69% in 2014.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Estonia#cite_note-13

In Latvia it was similar:

10% before Russian occupation in 1925, then 34% in 1989  and now 26% in 2014.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Latvia#Ethnic_groups

As you can see none of what you said is true, but keep on watching RIA and RT :)

 

Seriously the bullshit some of you post here is just hilarious.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 07:27 | 5888329 Jano
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Khazar, you interpret figures, as u need it. A propagandist khazar.

Because of the state fascizm in Estonia/Latvia, not every Russian is counted as Russian.

SO your percantage is good for Jerusalem Post, or WSJ.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 07:30 | 5888331 RisingSun
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Clearly I will take your word for it, because you know the demographics of my country better than myself. Can you show me please where you found the 40% number?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 08:11 | 5888365 Dathedr
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He's not Khazar. He's from Latvia (or Lithuania). He's very proud of his servitude to Hitler. He's a proud Nazi, aren't you potato? lol

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 08:24 | 5888369 RisingSun
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Why do you people always bring up hitler? Just because I am anti-Putin or anti-Soviets, I am pro-Hitler? Strong logic.

Majority of Russians in Russia (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2009/1223/Why-nearly-60-percent-of...) still look up to Soviet times as something good, while for Latvia alone it meant at least  290k(more than 10% of population) people deported in winter to Siberia to die, so pleaase excuse my "sentiment". 

"Accurate numbers for the losses the Soviets inflicted on Latvia are not available. They can, however, be conservatively estimated at 290,000 dead from military action, executions, or deportation. Many more found refuge abroad. These losses all began during the first Soviet occupation. This has also been referred to, in Latvian, as "Baigais Gads" (Year of Terror)."

Dathedr, look up Godwin's law, you seem to be practicing it very well. 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 08:39 | 5888391 Dathedr
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I have no idea what are you on about, Nazi. But I do know who you Baltic potatoes fought and died for -- for your leader Hitler. So, don't be such an asshole and pretend you are not aware of the past. And stop projecting yourself, cowardly Latvian potato. Everyone knows who destroyed Hitler and who fought for Hitler, potato. You are disgusting little creature. Awfully dishonest and utterly stupid troll. You don't fool anyone with your pathetic idiocy, and this would certainly not be a place for you to embark on such an effort. If you had any brain at all, you would have known it, potato. Now be a good chimp, and go fetch some potatoes, hm? It will calm you down I tell you. lol

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 08:48 | 5888405 RisingSun
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"I have no idea what are you on about, Nazi."

Exaclty, becasuse you dont know anything about our history, you know only what Russian state sponsored RT and RIA tells you. Look up "Year of Terror" in Latvia and Baltics. 290k Latvians died because of Soviets and those 290k were replaced by the Soviets themselves. You can mock Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania all you want, but there is obviously something special about our "potatoes", otherwise Soviet Russia would not have occupied Latvia/Baltics and those Russians would move back to Russia if it was really that great. In fact we have wealthy Russians buying properties in Latvia and moving their businesses here, because we have much less corruption and better economical climate than Russia.

But dont let facts get in the way of your comments.

Anyways im done with you, the way you write with childish insults about potatoes, I feel like I am talking with a mentally challanged 7 year old.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:14 | 5889066 Anusocracy
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Are you Estonian?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:27 | 5889230 Volkodav
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he is troll

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 07:36 | 5888333 newsoutlet
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About putin regime terrorists in Ukraine:

RUS https://youtu.be/d9-niPLnSds

 

Nazi / fascists rising in Russia:

RUS https://youtu.be/fY3s4CpAtkg

 

P.S. Is part of NATO. In Estonia are US soldiers and tanks - if putin regime invades Estonia, it automatically start war with NATO including US.

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 08:53 | 5888408 HowdyDoody
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This is Yats, Nudelman's man in Ukraine. He is Jewish. He is the Prime Minister of Ukraine.

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhGU3AIIgAAkPRD.jpg:large

There are no Nazi wannabes in charge of Ukraine!

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 08:05 | 5888344 RisingSun
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To those calling Baltics nazis, obviously without knowing anything about our history, I suggest you watch what real modern day Russian nazis look like:

 

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=200_1184934742

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ect7JknqCMc

 

It got many organizations such as Format 18 operating today, since majority on here have never heard of Format 18:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Format18

"Format18 was an extremely violent Russian neo-nazi group based in Moscow, that was suspected of being involved in the murder of almost 600 immigrants in less than a year. It was led by the nazi-skinhead Maxim Martsinkevich, and had close relations with the political party National Socialist Organization.[1]

F18 was known for posting videos on their website containing racist attacks, humiliating interviews with their political opponents (mostly militant anti-fascists). When the Russian police shut down their website in 2007 after arresting Martsinkevich, they had posted nearly 200 videos. A lot of them can still be found on filesharing websites like YouTube and AOL Video. They are believed to be the group that started the trend among Russian neo-nazis of taping their attacks on immigrants and posting them online.

Format18 has appeared in several documentaries about Russian neo-nazis, like "From Russia with hate", and "Ross Kemp on Gangs".

Their website re-opened earlier this year, but was quickly shut down by the police again. A few months later, a group calling themselves "Fanat18" started posting videos of throwing molotov cocktails at the homes of immigrants, and other hate crimes. The people behind these videos are believed to be former members of Format18

The number 18 is a coded reference to Adolf Hitler, as A is the 1st and H is the 8th letter of the Latin alphabet.

"

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 08:27 | 5888375 Dathedr
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Russians defeated Nazis, you Latvian retardo! 27 million Sovets (mostly Russians, and certainly not your Baltic potatos -- Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians, or your brother in arms Ukrops, even though you were Soviets too, but you fought for your leader Hitler) died to crush your idol, Nazi! Don't spread propaganda by confusing things. Everbody knows who fought for Hitler and who against Hitler, Nazi! Such scumbag "qualities" you demonstrate here, Latvian potato. Spitting on your brother in arms, your fellow Nazis... tut-tut. Only dogs do that, potato. Are you a dog or just incredibly stupid Latvian/Lithuanian potato, hm?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 08:41 | 5888394 RisingSun
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Bro, take decaf next time. You can call me potato, nazi  or whatever else you want to call me, it got no effect on me. Keep on using childish insults like that if that makes you feel better, but remember Russians in Russia can not even afford 1 potato with all econimcal "power"(according to ZH) they have. Average GDP per capita is one of the lowest in Europe, take out Moscow, St Petersbourg and few other cities and you will see what a real potato in Russian rural areas look like without electricity and gas. The day when people replace OIL with something else, you will see what a real potato looks like since 70% of Russian export is in energy. 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 08:59 | 5888407 Dathedr
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Hehe. Don't be so upset, potato. You are called a potato not because some reference to potatoes as vegetables, but because of your mental state. It is a metaphor to your brain uselessness as well as your moral virtues (or rather lack of ones that is). It compares your nervous system to vegetative state of mind of plants you idiot! lol

 

But now you have learned something, hm, potato? Your visit here wasn't for nothing after all. Perhaps you could teach your fellow potatoes the knowledge gathered here, hm? Be of some use, ah? Too much to ask for brain-dead Baltic potato?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:18 | 5888422 RisingSun
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Yes I learned that you are a Serb, so you will do what your people have done best for centuries, kiss Russian ass(didnt help with Kosovo tho). But remember when and if you ever come to Latvia, you will have to save some serious money as your country got 2x lower GDP Per capita than my potatoe country(since majority holds my views and welcome NATO in Latvia), I will give you 1/2 of my potatoe.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:41 | 5888452 Dathedr
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Probably because we are similar to Russians. After all we come from today Russia, and your Anglozionist overlords sometimes refer to us as "little Russians." And I wouldn't worry too much about your GDP, potato. These things tend to go down as well as up, sometimes in a drastic fashion.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 10:17 | 5888532 Benjamin123
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I am yet to meet anyone whos not a nazi or closet nazi, on earth. Speak with a human long enough and they'll tell you about it. Even the liberals are nazis at heart but are either too compasionate to act or enjoy the feeling of power that comes with aiding their inferiors.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 21:25 | 5888902 Volkodav
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Your avatar shows your deep troll obsession

good there are not many like you

get mental help

 

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 08:10 | 5888362 mendolover
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Oh stop reading the New York Post and calm down over there.  

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4110391931001/russia-launches-probe-on-gen-sc...

Game set and match!  WTF?  And Lou Dobbs can fuck off too.  Don't these assholes have families to worry about?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 08:32 | 5888386 gcjohns1971
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Come on.

Is it fair to attribute baltic fears to NATO paranoia when the Putin Kremlin released a statement that they could 'take the baltics in minutes and eastern Europe in three weeks'?

Isnt it a bit more than just 'a bit' slanted to leave out that detail?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:32 | 5889108 Anusocracy
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Baltic fears.

Does that refer to psychopaths in the Baltic governments, psychopaths in the US government who control the psychopaths in the Baltic governments, or the people in those countries?

People, like those everywhere, who are dupes.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 08:36 | 5888389 HowdyDoody
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Zionist victimology is amazingly contagious.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 08:45 | 5888400 chindit13
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As poster Homple wrote, what could Russia possibly want in Estonia?

“Whatever they wanted the first time”

But that was the Soviets! some will try to argue.

You know the Soviets.  They were the ones with a KGB case officer named Vladimir Putin, and later Chief of Propaganda for the KGB, who went on to become the leader of “non-Soviet” Russia.  Completely different species, no doubt.  And his former KGB comrades are now the oligarchs who run the country.  Fully reformed, to be sure.  Yes, as different as can be.  One can tell the difference by noting that ex-KGBer and current leader Putin hangs a picture of Tsar Nicholas II in his office, and still-to-be-revised history shows us that Nicky Two was an isolationist.

I’m sure all this will be cleared up when Vlad fully recovers from his latest round of cosmetic surgery and feels comfortable enough again to appear in public.  Besides telling everyone how Russia has no interest in Estonia, Vlad can also explain why he tapped the phone of the Estonian foreign minister and published some excerpts on YouTube.

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 08:55 | 5888411 HowdyDoody
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Putin helped put down the KGB coup against Yeltsin, the US man in Russia during the 90's.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:04 | 5888419 nmewn
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So Yeltsin was "the US man in Russia" and Putin protected him from a KGB coup?

I don't know where this is going to go but I'm gonna need another cup of coffee for it ;-)

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 12:52 | 5888884 Volkodav
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VV Putin followed legal lawful method

as Yeltsin was the legitimate President

for best result under the circumstances

 

better worry about your own country

 

 

 

 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:13 | 5888423 Dathedr
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Retard, you know why Stalin was the greatest Russian leader after the founder of Rus nation and state Rurik in 9th century, hm? I only recently found out. It's because of the purges of the Jews from the party and the system. He was the reason so-called Cold War happened. Stalin stopped Jews' complete takeover of practically an entire world.

 

Here is some info, albeit unfortunately from Anglozionist source.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalin_and_antisemitism

 

Are you sad because of it? Do you feel like crying?

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:41 | 5888468 Benjamin123
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Putin might actually be Rasputin, an immortal vampire fond of peace and love.

OTOH, who could Medvedev be?

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/dc1a966dbc0d.jpg

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 12:13 | 5888801 Niall Of The Ni...
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What do they want? Not to have German or American troops within striking distance of St. Petersburg on Russian land signed away by Trotsky to the Germans without the consent of the Russian people. Simple as that.

The fact that Estonians refuse to speak Russian in favour of their own jabber doesn't mean their land isn't Russian territory or makes sense as its own country to anyone who doesn't mean Russia harm. The Eskimo have their own jabber too (Inuktitut). Nobody in his right mind thinks the Eskimo need their own country.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 12:44 | 5888863 Volkodav
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useless talkings

Sun, 03/15/2015 - 06:40 | 5890649 Infinite QE
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This message brought to you by the FT. All the news that's fit to print. Or is that the tag line from some other rag? The FT, owned by, you guessed it, the same family that owns the central banks. The same family that paid for the first Bolshevik terror in Russia, now planning the second round. With shills like FullofChindit touting it all the way.

Sun, 03/15/2015 - 07:14 | 5890667 Monty Burns
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Nailed it, QE.  

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:34 | 5888457 Benjamin123
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All shootings are justified once someone fears for his life.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 09:41 | 5888470 roadhazard
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When did they not think they could be over run in minutes.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 12:09 | 5888792 BlussMann
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I don't think the Russians, or even an African pygmy war party, would fear the Swedish transgender army.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 12:54 | 5888892 SaCalobra
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Nothing supports the idea that Russia wants to take any territory around the Baltic sea. We havent seen any troop movements. Sweden is a very sensitive target being squeezed in between numerous nato countries and with military defence alliances with Finland and a couple of other countries. Why anyone got the idea that Russia would walz in and seize Gotland is beyond my understanding. Russia is not expanding anywhere. But Nato is.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 14:20 | 5889078 Anusocracy
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The simple fact is they have to lie to cover up reality.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 13:12 | 5888937 DIgnified
Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:11 | 5889186 Chuck Knoblauch
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Who knew Sweeden had an army.

I thought they only made shity furniture.

Sun, 03/15/2015 - 07:11 | 5890663 Monty Burns
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And it's the ultimate PC army. Full of women, queers, transgenders, ragheads, cripples. I'm sure they scare the hell out of the Russians.

Sun, 03/15/2015 - 07:11 | 5890664 Monty Burns
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And it's the ultimate PC army. Full of women, queers, transgenders, ragheads, cripples. I'm sure they scare the hell out of the Russians.

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 15:56 | 5889297 activisor
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The propaganda is reaching levels of absurdity that defy belief.  Every day the US puppet states come up with some ridiculous accusations that a waking public is finding harder to swallow. The more the Russia baiting. anti Putin rheoric is flaunted in the press and on the tv, the less the public is buying it. Just because it worked in the past, does not mean it is working now.  The veil has been lifted. and the people have seen the puppet masters behind the curtains.

Let us hope that the real journalists realise that they will not survive what the controllers have in store for us all, and start writing some truth news. 

Sat, 03/14/2015 - 19:08 | 5889756 CTG_Sweden
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If some oligarch had become president after Yeltsin, and continued the Yeltsin era strategy, I think that a Russian annexation of Gotland would have stood out as more legitimate than the Russian annexation of Crimea and support to the rebels in Eastern Ukraine.

 

If you had connected someone like Carl Bildt (former Swedish PM and minister of foreign affairs) or Dr. Anders Åslund to a lie-detector and asked him whether he thought that it would be bad to give Gotland to a guy like Boris Berezovsky he would probably had said “no” or they lie-detector would have indicated that he was lying.

 

The reason why Sweden in the late 1990s decided to shut down the coast artillery regiment on Gotland was that the Swedish and European leaders thought that the oligarchs would rule Russia forever. Although it was considered as unlikely that Russia would occupy Gotland at that time it would not had been considered as bad if Russia had occupied Gotland and induced hyper inflation, impoverished the population including natives like Mr. Björn Björkqvist, and would have let people like Berezovsky buy everything on Gotland for a paltry sum. They never thought that the treatment of the Russian population in the 1990s was bad. They don´t even think that the extermination of the kulaks in the 1930s is a problem. They did not protest against it in the 1930s and they still don´t think that is a problem. The Swedish national television company SVT broadcast a few years ago a documentary called “Folkets århundrade” in which they claimed that the kulaks starved themselves to death. I´m not sure that someone like Berezovsky would have got away with starving the entire population of Gotland to death. But I would not have been surprised if he actually would have got away with that. It is not bad if you starve someone like Björkqvist to death. Or starve members of the same tribe that some time in the future may embrace the same, or similar, ideas to death. Of course you get some “collateral damage”. So I don´t think that that a guy like Carl Bildt would enjoy to carry out similar strategy himself. But he would certainly accept a significant degree of collateral damage if someone like Victoria Nuland would tell him to do so.

 

On the other hand I think that both Carl Bildt and Victoria Nuland would support people like Björkqvist if he would fight a Russian invasion of Gotland carried out by Putin. They currently support them in Eastern Ukraine against pro-Russian separatists who want to belong to Russia rather than Ukraine or get a substantial degree of independence like Åland.

 

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