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Germanwings Co-Pilot "Deliberately Destroyed" Airplane, Identified As 28-Year Old German Citizen

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In one of the most chilling segments of this morning's press conference describing what was found on the cockpit voice recorder, screams were heard from passengers and crew as the realisation of what was about to happen struck them all. Prosecutor Brice Robin's findings state that when the German Captain left the cockpit - following what appeared to be - the 28-year-old German co-pilot (who was alive to the end) refused to re-open the door and began an "intentional", "controlled", and "steady" descent as he "seems to have sought to destroy the plane." Nothing indicates that this was a terrorist incident.

 

As The NY Times reports,

“At this moment, in light of investigation, the interpretation we can give at this time is that the co-pilot through voluntary abstention refused to open the door of the cockpit to the commander, and activated the button that commands the loss of altitude,” the prosecutor, Brice Robin, said.

 

He said it appeared that the co-pilot’s intention had been “to destroy the aircraft.” He said that the voice recorder showed that the co-pilot had been breathing until before the moment of impact, suggesting that he was conscious and deliberate in his actions. He said that his inquiry had shown that the crash was intentional.

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The descent was not a nose-dive and passengers would have been unaware until the last few minutes that anything was out of order...

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The last 30 minutes...

  • *ROBIN SAYS INVESTIGATORS HAVE TRANSCRIPT OF LAST 30 MINUTES
  • *ROBIN SAYS COMMANDER ASKED CO-PILOT TO TAKE COMMAND
  • *ROBIN SAYS COMMANDER LEAVES COCKPIT, LEAVING CO-PILOT
  • *CO-PILOT STARTED FLIGHT MONITORING SYSTEM FOR DESCENT: ROBIN
  • *DESCENT COULD ONLY HAVE BEEN VOLUNATRY, ROBIN SAYS
  • *COPILOT DIDN'T RESPOND TO CALLS TO OPEN DOOR: ROBIN
  • *COMMANDER TRIES TO RE-ENTER COCKPIT BUT NOT ABLE: ROBIN
  • *CO-PILOT APPEARS TO HAVE REFUSED TO OPEN DOOR FOR PILOT: ROBIN
  • *COPILOT WAS ALIVE TO THE VERY END: ROBIN
  • *COPILOT'S BREATHING HEARD TO THE VERY END: ROBIN
  • *ROBIN SAYS C0-PILOT HAD NORMAL BREATHING, NO SIGN OF ILLNESS
  • *CO-PILOT CAN BE HEARD BREATHING RIGHT UP TO FINAL IMPACT: ROBIN
  • *FRENCH PROSECUTOR ROBIN SAYS CO-PILOT REFUSED TO OPEN COCKPIT

The implications...

  • *CO-PILOT SEEMS TO HAVE SOUGHT TO DESTROY THE PLANE: ROBIN
  • *CO-PILOT APPEARS TO HAVE WANTED TO DESTROY AIRPLANE: ROBIN

Details on the pilots...

  • *CO-PILOT WAS GERMAN CITIZEN, ROBIN SAYS
  • *ROBIN SAYS HE HAS NO IDEA ABOUT PILOTS' RELIGIONS, ETHNICITY
  • *ROBIN REPEATS THAT BOTH PILOTS WERE GERMAN CITIZENS
  • *ROBIN SAYS THERE WAS NO ONE ELSE IN CABIN BESIDES COPILOT
  • *ROBIN SAYS GERMANWINGS DESCENT WAS CONTROLLED AND STEADY
  • *ROBIN SAYS CO-PILOT HAD WORKED FOR A FEW MONTHS
  • *ROBIN SAYS CO-PILOT HAD A FEW HUNDRED HOURS OF EXPERIENCE
  • *ROBIN SAYS COMMANDER HAD 10,000 HOURS OF FLYING EXPERIENCE
  • *CO-PILOT WAS 28 YRS OLD: ROBIN

The WSJ identifies the co-pilot as Andreas Lubitz...

The co-pilot of the Germanwings flight that crashed in the French Alps on Tuesday was Andreas Lubitz, 28, of Montabaur, according to a flight club where he was a member.

 

“Andreas became a member of the club as a youth to fulfill his dream of flying,” the LSC club said in a death notice on its website.

 

 

“He fulfilled his dream, the dream he now paid for so dearly with his life,” the club said. It said he was the co-pilot of the flight. A member of the flight club identified him to The Wall Street Journal on Thursday.

And finally...

  • *ROBIN SAYS NOTHING INDICATES TERRORIST INCIDENT
  • *ROBIN SAYS CRASH APPEARS AT THIS POINT TO BE `INDIVIDUAL FAULT'

Horrific...

The Latest: French prosecutor says passengers on Germanwings flight could be heard screaming just before crash.

 

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Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:24 | 5928678 29.5 hours
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The co-pilot's actions brings Congress to mind...

 

 

 

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:25 | 5928685 SWRichmond
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Thanks for reinforcing that door to keep the terrorists out...

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:28 | 5928704 max2205
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Fox calls it Terrorism 

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:31 | 5928717 cossack55
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Fox is terrorism

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:33 | 5928731 Latina Lover
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+100

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:37 | 5928738 Latina Lover
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It's all Putins Fault!!!!  

Repeat after Me:

Putins Fault

Putins Fault

Putins Fault

Putins Fault

Putins Fault

Bomb Russia NoW!

Now in other news, the Adopt a Banksters program seems to be receiving some  resistance from the general population, someithing to do with donating blood and babies for unknown purposes..

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:40 | 5928767 Obchelli
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Is this how grandma yellen deliberately crashes US Economy?

 

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:45 | 5928791 surfsup
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Yeah head lies from the NY Times... believable.... sure....  (puke)

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:59 | 5928869 NoDebt
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But wait a minute.  Obama said just yesterday it WASN'T terrorism.  I guess it's the old 'workplace violence' thing again.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:07 | 5928931 Richard Chesler
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ROBIN SAYS HE HAS NO IDEA ABOUT PILOT'S RELIGION

translation: he was a muslim.


Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:12 | 5928964 NoDebt
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Did anybody check his Facebook page?  That's where all the terrorists tell you what they're going to do.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:23 | 5929030 Beam Me Up Scotty
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Wow, the world really is going to hell.  He murdered 149 people.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:47 | 5929181 Government need...
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Time to carve a little New Mecca 'Lebensraum' out of present day Germany.  I'm counting on a nice size 'Victory Mosque' as well.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:55 | 5929219 FEDbuster
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Any bankster whistleblowers on board?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:11 | 5929270 gold-is-not-dead
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hmm, monarch programming in that kido?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:21 | 5929302 RU-GAY2
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Copycat killing a la the Egypt Air 1999 incident?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:34 | 5929335 Manthong
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Next question : What kind of anti-depressants was he on?

The surprising frequency of pilot suicides

 

“Going Airline”

“Going Postal” in the brave new world?

 

 

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:35 | 5929361 froze25
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I brought that up on Market Watch the shills immediately jumped on the question trying to make it about blame "you can't blame the drug for the mans actions" to divert from the issue that these drugs are causing psychotic behavior expression in people.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:50 | 5929432 ILLILLILLI
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"Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain...!"

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:51 | 5929436 Manthong
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They blame the guns for mass murders, not the shooters or the meds.

Why not blame the airplanes?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 11:05 | 5929461 Pinto Currency
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Found the Cockpit Voice Recorder but the casing had been compromised.

Could not find the other flight data recorders.

White House comments almost immediately after the crash that terrorism did not appear to be a factor.

Does not appear very clean.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 12:01 | 5929501 BuddyEffed
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Could a stroke, leave the copilot breathing, yet incapacitated?

Were there any switches thrown or pressed during the long descent that indicated active control?

Were there any mumblings at all?

A person in a deranged state of mind will often mumble and speak to themselves about what they are doing.

How often does the switch that started the descent get used normally during that flight phase?

Any chance he fell asleep with his headphones on and couldn't hear the pilot banging on the door?

Do those headsets have noise cancellation electronics?

Why would that one person down vote me for the above post?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 12:19 | 5929783 Mountainview
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Why on the return flight? What happened in Barcelona? Are we sure who was knocking on the door? Was the co-pilot conscious? Too many questions are open?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 15:07 | 5930550 TruxtonSpangler
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Coverup for an Airbus flaw. Its the dead guy's fault. Theres absolutely no problem with the plane! Wait what? This happened before?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 18:20 | 5931439 Againstthelie
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The prosecutor stated, he has a transcript. How can the prosecutor hear breathing from a transcript? Why didn't he say "we/I have the audio reconding"?

After the start, shouldn't the plane be full of kerosine? Why are there no flames on the ground?

Where is the impact crater?

Why was info leaked to certain media like the NYT, although the next day was the press conference anyway? Did someone give the public the feeling, that it is not feed with info from authorities only?

Why reported dailymail about fighter jets, but removed this passage from the article without notice?

Why made the US government an official statement against terrorism, even before the investigators could know anything?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 13:10 | 5930021 Sages wife
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Or the forks for obesity.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 11:33 | 5929590 steve2241
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Bingo

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 11:35 | 5929597 PenguinDude
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"in 2010, the FAA did away with a generations-old ban on pilots taking anti-depressants . The aviation agency, which has mental health restrictions for pilots, now can issue certificates permitting pilots to take Prozac, Zoloft, Celexa, and Lexapro, CNN reports."

If he was, it should be on his record.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 12:59 | 5929976 Bilderberg Member
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Its not like his route was Little Rock to San Antonio...It was over the Swiiss Alps!...Whats his problem???...Killed children, abhorable and unspeakable

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 13:10 | 5930029 A Nanny Moose
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You are statistically more likely to be killed by your own gummint, than some whacked out pilot.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 13:24 | 5930104 Binko
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People don't want to hear it. They watch the commercials on TV that warn (in the warm cheerful voice) that the new wonder drug "may cause suicidal thoughts and actions" but it just doesn't register that these psychotropic drugs actually cause some users to off themselves and take others with them. Americans love their meds.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 13:32 | 5930149 Icelandicsaga.....
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Bingo.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 15:04 | 5930543 mt paul
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pilots mom probably cancled

his world of warcraft account...

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 11:58 | 5929682 joeyman9
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Just watch, this will be used to promote computer controlled pilotless airliners.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 12:53 | 5929949 de3de8
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No,will create a new job: cockpit monitor

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 11:58 | 5929683 joeyman9
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Just watch, this will be used to promote computer controlled pilotless airliners.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 15:42 | 5930673 Frankie Carbone
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Any whistleblowers, rogue journalists, or Ron Paul on the flight by chance? 

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 17:23 | 5931214 Abbie Normal
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Sadly, he's just a piker compared to the one that was shot down (298) and the one that was disappeared (239)

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:17 | 5928993 BaBaBouy
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ROBIN SAYS HE HAS NO IDEA ABOUT PILOT'S RELIGION ... That Statement Is Highly Suspect...

The Investigators Will Immediately DIG OUT All Information On The Pilots.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:24 | 5929050 pazmaker
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Last name sounds jewish

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:23 | 5929312 schadenfreude
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Most german names sounds jewish. 

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:36 | 5929370 Mister Ponzi
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No, most Jewish names sound German.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 11:48 | 5929641 FeralSerf
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Yiddish, which historically was spoken by a large portion of European (Ashkenazi faux)-Jews, is a Germanic language.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yiddish_language

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 12:25 | 5929814 juantrades
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I wonder why

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 14:59 | 5930520 Dame Ednas Possum
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Hours after the crash and we're listening to the co-pilot's breathing...

MH17 went down on 17 July 2014...that's over 8 months ago...and we don't know shit other that propaganda "PUTIN'S MISSILE"

Cover up?

Hmmmm...maybe just a little bit.

The Tribe protects its Chosenites in Kiev.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:40 | 5929390 Kirk2NCC1701
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No "digging" is required.  In Germany all employment records show a person's religion. 

As a matter of fact, it shows up on your paystub as a tax deduction at source, so that the local  Catholic or Protestant church gets its cut.  You actually have to officially leave the Church to have the tax deduction removed from your pay.

I'll say what nobody else has said yet: that Arch loch is a Muslim convert.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 12:01 | 5929707 PacOps
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Past time for a boycott of any airline - or mass carrier for that matter- who does not release the religion of the pilot, co-pilot, crew, to the general public prior to departure - significantly prior to departure.

This is going to be an interesting law suit and screening changes for pilots, co-pilots. 

I think this one did it for any blind trust left in the industry.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:16 | 5929293 estebanDido
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Or maybe he was a paranoid jew like Woody Allen.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 11:50 | 5929613 Billy the Poet
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"ROBIN SAYS HE HAS NO IDEA ABOUT PILOT'S RELIGION

translation: he was a muslim."

 

Translation: You're a Shiite trying to blame this on a Sunni.

Now do you see how foolish unsubstantiated speculation masquerading as self righteous certainty sounds? Your reaction to a void of evidence tells us far more about you than it does about the Muslims whom you fear so much.

Helpful hint: Evolution favors reasoned responses to real situations over knee jerk reactions to imaginary fears. There's no percentage in being proud of one's own angst and stupidity.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 13:02 | 5929986 GernB
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Carefull now, You wouldn't want to be considered the pot calling the kettle black.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 13:11 | 5930024 Billy the Poet
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Apparently I was too careful as you sound like you've missed the point. I made a stupid, unsubstantiated accusation in order to show how stupid and unsubstantiated such accusations are.

Is that plain enough?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 12:16 | 5929769 Mister Delicious
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if he were muslim, it would be all over the news, especially Fox.  the only way they'd hide his religion is if he turns out to be Jewish.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 12:38 | 5929866 fencejumper
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Concur.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 16:00 | 5930762 jerry_theking_lawler
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I don't think so. I think they know his religion and are scared to death they are going to have to release it....then the entire airline industry is going to go to the shitpot, quickly. Trying to hold off as logn as possible to find some way to spin this....

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 16:07 | 5930795 tony wilson and...
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i here he was a great beleiver in the tora and talmud.

i here he was a great believer in the oded yinon plan based on that we can safely say richard chesler above is a mindless low level zionist sayanim

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 18:26 | 5931462 Againstthelie
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I am missing Tony Wilson. Where has he gone? Was he banned?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:10 | 5928949 BaBaBouy
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IF True, Horrible Horrible Horrible...

PS iN These Cases, The DATA Should Be Released To ALL Immediately, So As To Stop Any Doctoring/Fraud.

Just Look At The Ukraine Plane Crash, They Conficated ALL The Recordings And No Release, We Will Never
Know The Truth From That Crash.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:28 | 5929076 Bendromeda Strain
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Maybe, maybe not.

You decide.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 15:03 | 5930538 Dame Ednas Possum
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"Theses case"...what, like MH17 over 8 months ago?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:25 | 5929324 Socratic Dog
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BaBa, if they don't realease the data, then we most certainly DO know the truth.  How more obvious could it be?  Wake up, son.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:36 | 5929368 Lex_Luthor
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Silence speaks all the truth...

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:12 | 5928957 Divine Wind
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Sounds like another Allah Snackbar event.

It is rare for someone committing suicide (the non-religiously motivated type) to take 145+ additional lives in the process.

 

 

 

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:15 | 5928985 Sandmann
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Probably couldn;t face waiting until 55 to retire now Lufthansa wants them to work a bit longer

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 15:05 | 5930551 Dame Ednas Possum
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Greece sympathiser?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:18 | 5928995 clade7
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At least the smokers had time to spark one up...thats my plan anyway...I'm prepared to spark one up right there in my seat if things look dicey..

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:53 | 5929213 smlbizman
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...and i bet u at least some dumb mutherfucker on ur plane would tell u its against the law and to please put it out.....

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:57 | 5929227 Tall Tom
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If you are writing about smoking pot...well...that is understandable.

 

If you are writing about tobacco...Use a fucking e-cigarette.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:27 | 5929328 Socratic Dog
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Going to rub two sticks together to light it? Might take a while.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:42 | 5929400 Kirk2NCC1701
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Germans wouldn't light one up, because that would be illegal.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 11:13 | 5929523 Billy the Poet
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Sounds like another Allah Snackbar event.

 

Yeah, the absence of any such evidence is proof enough.

 

It is rare for someone committing suicide (the non-religiously motivated type) to take 145+ additional lives in the process.

 

You say it's "rare" but you provide no statistics. Where's your documentation? Helpful hint: whimpering about your unreasonable fears is not evidence.

 

 

 

 

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 11:57 | 5929672 FeralSerf
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Or another CIA/Mossad/MI6 Rothschild operation which most "Allah Snackbar" events really are. Some of the German livestock have shown they are considering leaving the (NATO/EU) reservation. Like the Malaysians, perhaps it was time to jab them with the cattle prod.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 18:28 | 5931467 Againstthelie
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...and the investigators calling that "NO TERRORISM".

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:05 | 5929249 cheech_wizard
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Obama should have waited until it came on the news before making an announcement. (Like the way he finds out about everything else.)

 

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:27 | 5929332 The Count
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I am sick and tired of Obummer constantly commenting on news event. 

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 15:49 | 5930723 mkkby
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Why do you even know what that useless piece of shit says?  Stop watching TV  fake news.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:02 | 5929240 g speed
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At winchester----good catch--was she a "whistle blower"? was he a "suicide for the cause" controlled asset? Inquiring minds want to know.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:47 | 5928807 onewayticket2
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a "guest" of Fox said "terrorism"....the host JUST said, "we do not know it's terrorism"

knee jerk hate of the left continues....

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:01 | 5928895 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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It is hardly "knee-jerk" and "hate" to be worried about the fact that a news channel that is almost to the right of white supremacy publications is considered the most trusthworthy media outlet by most Americans.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:07 | 5928926 GetZeeGold
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a "guest" of Fox said "terrorism"....the host JUST said, "we do not know it's terrorism"

 

Well....they finally got Fox.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 11:12 | 5929517 Dick Gazinia
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It wasn't terrorism. The copilot was probably listening to FM radio and Ozero came on making a pointless speach. Hey, we have all thought about doing similar things when Ofucktard starts yammering.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:07 | 5928928 onewayticket2
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you're right.  it's mental illness to characterize an entire broadcast network a "Terrorist" for a single word a GUEST of the network uttered....when moments later the EMPLOYEE of the network countered that guest saying "we do not know if it's terrorism"

 

seek help for your illness.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:30 | 5929085 Grimaldus
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obombatron assclown progressives out themselves. They can't help it. The stupid, it burns.

Grimaldus

 

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:38 | 5929131 Memedada
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I hope English is your third-fourth language? And that you just picked it up?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 13:15 | 5930057 Billy the Poet
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In English declarative sentences are not followed by a question mark.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:37 | 5929123 Memedada
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If terrorism is defined as using scare-tactics to pursue political goals (either by direct terrorist actions, propagandizing for terrorism (the ‘stuff’ US does around the world on a daily basis – called ‘foreign policy’ – qualifies for this category) or supporting ongoing terrorism (again: the droning, wars, torture and assassinations carried out by the US qualifies), then FOX qualifies as a pretty much pure terrorist organization.

One person stating 'we don't know if this particular act is terrorism' does not make FOX less of a terrorist organisation (the reverse logic of your statement).

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:54 | 5929214 onewayticket2
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So when MSNBC and others ran video of Congressman Hank Johnson stating that if the military build up in Guam continued, that "Guam might....capsize due to the added weight", you feel that qualifies all those networks of being "terrorist organizations" because they are using guests to promote "scare tactics to pursue political goals"?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:00 | 5929236 BLOTTO
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Is this really the best they can come up with - the co-pilot suicided the plane? Come on man.

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No mention on the controlled MSM of eye witness reports of the escorted fighter jets?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:06 | 5929254 BLOTTO
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Also, how in the 'treacherous' terrain of the alps - did they find a tiny box, amongst 1,000,000,000 disintegrated pieces....fix the box...listen to the box...and announce all that to the controlled MSM

- in 12 hours?

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Ma come on man...

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:55 | 5929457 chunga
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It seems odd to this layman, that there can be so many variations in the amount of time it takes to investigate things like this. The MH17 investigation, for example, is still supposed to about a year from being complete. In this one they already have the co-pilot's breathing info. It just doesn't make sense.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 13:15 | 5930056 CuttingEdge
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It makes perfect sense.

This one wasn't orchestrated by the CIA.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 11:53 | 5929653 Galahad Threepwood
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The black boxes have some kind of radio transmitter

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 15:49 | 5930722 JLee2027
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And the satellite data confirmed the descent and it's decision.

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 04:27 | 5932812 taveunitim
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To me -the debris looks like it rained down on the mountain , covering a large area after a mid air explosion/catastrophic structural failure - not like it slamed into the mountain intact...

Fri, 03/27/2015 - 04:28 | 5932813 taveunitim
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To me -the debris looks like it rained down on the mountain , covering a large area after a mid air explosion/catastrophic structural failure - not like it slamed into the mountain intact...

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:39 | 5929387 Memedada
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The ‘gallery’ of guests in FOX is in itself boring – they are handpicked as either ‘sad/weak’ exponents of anything critical towards status quo or as direct proponents of the status quo.

What makes FOX (and most US MSM) ‘terrorist’ is their use of propaganda to drum up support for the state terrorism carried out by US. The fear-mongering. The scapegoating. All the tools reused from their predecessors in Nazi-Germany. Actually the manuals and/or policies used in US (and supported/cheerleaded by FOX) is almost to the letter equal to those used in Nazi-Germany.

History repeating. But as a population with no historical knowledge (going back more than a decade at most) it’s not a surprise that FOX (among others) can get away with it.

In Denmark FOX is seen as an absurd phenomenon: how is it possible not to see FOX as a supporter of status quo = as a supporter of state terrorism and the coming totalitarian NWO?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 11:05 | 5929496 onewayticket2
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behold the "sad/weak" guest's resume.....but i'm sure your BA from Bennington in frisbee studies compares favorably.

 

"Barry McCaffrey served in the United States Army for 32 years and retired as a four-star General. At retirement he was the most highly decorated serving General, having been awarded three Purple Heart medals for wounds received in his four combat tours – as well as twice awarded the Distinguished Service Cross, the nation’s second highest award for valor. He also twice was awarded the Silver Star for valor."

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 14:05 | 5930305 Ass Burger
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Sorry, we didn't ALL go to Gudger College.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 11:46 | 5929632 onewayticket2
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oh, boy...earlier today your pals at MSNBC had a "GUEST" on that spewed her opinion about terrorists.....so applying your definition to this situation, even though MSNBC was forced to apologize, they, too, are guilty by association of being a "terrorist organization"

 

see how whacky your position gets when it's applied to your own team?

 

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/03/25/msnbc-panelists-jaw-dropping-...

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 12:52 | 5929928 Memedada
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ALL US (and EU) MSM serves the same Masters. I see no substantial difference between any of them.

And I'm on none of your right wing teams. What's sad is you don't know that there 'other teams' out there.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 14:43 | 5930457 onewayticket2
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"i see no substantial difference between any of them"

 

yet only a few posts back.....you did exactly that.....and singled out ONE and only one network...shocker:  Fox...... (while ignoring thousands of other examples from other networks).....in so doing, placing yourself squarely on the "team" you now claim you do not sit.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:07 | 5928930 NoDebt
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Left, right.  Blue, red.  Hey, look over there!  A shiny thing!

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:31 | 5929094 Bendromeda Strain
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Larssen is just a racist with his mammy wet nurse avatar. Isn't it obvious?

 

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:56 | 5929224 smlbizman
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nodebt...were, over here i dont see it...wait is that..no....oh look a butterfly.....

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:33 | 5929355 Puncher75
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So, idealogical differences are just "distractions"?  Really?  Do tell.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:41 | 5929140 PrecipiceWatching
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The infestation of this once decent Forum by the vastly ignorant, hate-filled Left continues apace.....

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:53 | 5929210 Government need...
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The genesis of Fox News was only possible after decades of award-winning Pravda-propaganda from the 3 networks that dominated the US television market from the 70s thru the 90s.  Had there been some effort to present info thru a center-right perspective, Fox NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.  Suck it, 'progressives'.  Even if Fox is stutifyingly predictable and equally scripted in its effort to be anti-CNN/NBC/ABC/CBS, at least it provides an alternative.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:22 | 5929308 conscious being
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Pleas don't play that left right bs. All MSM sucks.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:21 | 5929304 Abaco
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You must work really hard at being this stupid. "To the right of white supremacy publications?" Give me a break. Fox news reports a little from the right but doesn't ask any penetrating questions and is seeking profit with  the divide them every which way we can meme that serves the interests of the state. Just like the bozos on the MSNBC and the broadcast networks. Do you consider MSNBC to be almost to the left of Lenin? Or are you just a tool?

 

Fox can be criticized for many things but shouldn't be falsely criticized nor should it be singled out when there are plenty of equal opportunity offenders.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 13:13 | 5930044 TheReplacement
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I am constantly amazed at your ability to prove yourself a bigger and bigger moron.  You are like a bottomless pit that way.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:51 | 5929197 JRobby
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The lawyers insist that "guests" be the hatchet men to minimize damages.

An old tactic. Like letters to the editor that slander prominent citizens.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:29 | 5929334 Socratic Dog
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It's not only the left that finds Fox detestable.  The libertarian right also.

But, it's just TV.  I don't give a shit.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:59 | 5929473 ThroxxOfVron
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"The libertarian right  "

This is part of the problem with 'libertarians'.

Right or left of what?

There is Statism and there is Liberty.  Which is supposedly to the right or left of the other?  Bullshit.

IMHO, Statism encompasses both the right and the left and simply cannot contain libertarian thought/action.  

True libertarianism eschews this bipolar/linear/flat view of the relationship between individuals and other individuals/'society'/'civilization' for a multidimensional awareness.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 13:15 | 5930060 GernB
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The right makes noises about smaller government making them seem more alighed with liberatarians than the left, but in their every action the republican party is as much in favor of more government control as the democrat party. The far right is as big an advocate of tyrany as is the far left. Liberatarians are the only group that believes people should be free to make their own choices.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 18:55 | 5931594 Socratic Dog
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Thank you gentlemen.

I use the term "libertarian right" because the economics of libertarians tends towards what the right once eschewed. More Mises  than Krugman.  The mainstream right now is not distinguishable from the mainstream left in its economics.

Fuck the right.  And fuck the left.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:47 | 5928809 surfsup
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Same tech exists for airbus planes:  http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/boeing-wins-patent-uninterruptib...

 

Nefarious parties would never hack such things... no, never...    

 

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:49 | 5928828 surfsup
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"... a new Raytheon contract to develop software that uses type of craft, location, and fuel capacity to determine the safest route for a hijacked or otherwise compromised aircraft. This is a great idea, one that must have Chicago, Illinois-based Boeing excited — not out of envy but because it improves the value of its recently awarded patent for a system that, once activated, takes control of the airplane away from the pilots and flies it to a predtermined landing position."

 

Just depends on who has the keys eh? 

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:20 | 5929010 Beam Me Up Scotty
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Thats a great idea, make a plane hijackable from the ground.  How about you put a method to open the cockpit door from the outside?  Like give both pilots a key?   Or make it a two key system that needs both a flight attendent and a pilot to open at the same time from different areas?  The absolute WORST thing you could do is make an airliner hijackable from the ground!!  Seems to me thats how Khan lost to Kirk---Kirk used Reliants prefix codes to lower her shields.

Didn't Iran steal one of our drones this way?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:44 | 5929162 Georgia_Boy
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It's fu.cking sad we even need to debate this.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 15:57 | 5930748 mkkby
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How about this for an idea?  DON'T FLY.  It's uncomfortable and you get your balls/pussy squeezed by perverts in TSA jackets.

Let them practice their muslim love on someone else.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 11:22 | 5929558 Rusty Shorts
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Yup, just like cars these days, which can be remotely hi-jacked.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 11:25 | 5929569 Kirk2NCC1701
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Yup, that's how Khan was outfoxed. That, plus Spock noticed that (for all his smarts), Khan was navigating the ship in a 2D plane.

You don't fuck with Kirk, Spock and Scotty.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 13:39 | 5930180 twh99
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Here is a better idea.  Maybe the pilot and co-pilot should just stay in the fucking cockpit!  What possible reason do they need to leave during the flight.  They can pee before they leave.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 22:27 | 5932268 DrData02
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If you have an auto with OnStar, etc. it already is hi-jackable (from air or ground), why not planes too?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:01 | 5928896 BaBaBouy
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Horrible Horrible Horrible...

What can you say, this motherfucker is not human, just garbage, puke...

Pray For The Victims.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:32 | 5929351 Payne
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Instead of Going Postal we now have Going German Wings ? Just doesn't have the same ring.

He could have killed himself at any time, he wanted to kill people, destroy the aircraft and the reputation of the airline. Sounds like terror.

He was mind controlled by the CIA ? No direct evidence

How depressed can a 28 year be having finally gotten a job flying with a Regional
carrier ? Mildly, unless he had a history. It is tough to pass all the oral, and practical exams if you were clinically depressed.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 16:00 | 5930760 mkkby
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White people can be muslims too.  Religious cults have twisted the minds of many.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:38 | 5929381 ThirteenthFloor
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Yellen is not alone. There is no economic commander trying to get in the door. From Hamlin to Greenspan and Bernanke they are equally guilty.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:01 | 5928892 iofera
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Bombing helpless, hapless Russia always makes sense.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:37 | 5928745 IridiumRebel
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These are the kinda days that the Fox Fux love. Airplane crash could be terrerrississ and a possibly major war breaks out in the ME.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:54 | 5928850 pods
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We don't know that it's terrrrists, but we are going to bomb some more brown people just in case.

pods

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:05 | 5928914 HardAssets
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Naw, they're 'Equal Opportunity' now

Would target eastern Ukrainians & Russians too

TPTB hate all humanity everywhere

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:26 | 5929327 Gavrikon
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ESPECIALLY Russians and Ukrainians.  Haven't you noticed?  In most terrorism movies they are the politically correct baddies.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 11:05 | 5929495 ThroxxOfVron
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"bomb some more brown people "

While this might sound nice rolling off the tongue to some -it is tiresome, innaccurate, and reeks of progressive/leftist haught and hubris.

I watch plenty of video/news footage and there are no brown people in Afghanistan or Ukraine or Russia.

America makes war in various degrees on peoples in order to maintain dominance and what region/location gets carpeted/droned/etc. has nothing to do with melanin content of the local populaces.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 16:01 | 5930767 mkkby
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You are brown.  We get it.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:37 | 5928752 Took Red Pill
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He was a member of the flight club

Too bad he wasn't a member of the FIGHT club!

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:24 | 5929045 Gazooks
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now; ..fright club

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:36 | 5929369 glenlloyd
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Ok, so who was on the plane and/or what was in the cargo hold?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 11:01 | 5929480 Hobbleknee
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or what happened in the other direction?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:39 | 5928746 Creepy A. Cracker
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If Dear Leader Obama had a son he'd look like and behave like that pilot.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:45 | 5928792 mrdenis
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He'd behave like that co-pilot ....fixed it for ya'

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 10:18 | 5929298 Creepy A. Cracker
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The co-pilot was an overly emotional transsexual?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 09:45 | 5929168 JRobby
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Thanks cossack for that clarification. That is a real truth that needs to be recognized.

Alien Rupert controlling full power FCC TV broadcast licenses is a clear attempt to de-stabilize the USA.

He paid off to become a US citizen.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 11:14 | 5929527 Meatballs
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To the 48 Fox "News" watchers who down voted, you should have been on that plane. Keep slurping up their bs you fucking idiots

 

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 12:32 | 5929853 goldhedge
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down voted by retards

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 15:42 | 5930680 Frankie Carbone
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Who are the 79 deluded douchbag Mur'can's that neg repped you?

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:32 | 5928724 ThaBigPerm
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History repeats (at least rhymes)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EgyptAir_Flight_990

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 08:37 | 5928751 Eirik Magnus Larssen
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So it would certainly seem.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 13:52 | 5930249 caconhma
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This is the official story that a pilot deliberately did it. But is it a true story? Our government and our media lied to us so much on daily basis, therefore, I am skeptical about this official story.

Yes, Lee Harvey Oswald killed John Kennedy and after this additional 40 plus witnesses were murdered and the government refuses to open the files.

Remember the Gulf of Tonkin incident that started the Vietnam war. It also was a lie.

Remember George Bush and this government have lied us about Iraqi WMD. It also was a lie.

Remember the 9/11 and refusal of our government and the Congress to conduct any investigations. Nobody, nobody 14 years after the 9/11 was officially charged and bought to the court of Law.

 

Instead we are having no-good constantly lying Presidents: Clinton, Bush, and low-life Obama. Well, he is a peacekeeper and a Nobel price winner.. The same is going for the EU leaders.

Thu, 03/26/2015 - 16:05 | 5930782 mkkby
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Compared with men like Washington and Jefferson, the last 1/2 century of presidents have turned the white house into little more than a whore house full of pimps.  We sure need that reset.

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