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Caught On Tape: South Carolina Cop Shoots Unarmed Man 8 Times In The Back
Activists plan to protest in South Carolina today, according to Reuters, after a white police officer was caught on video fatally shooting a 50-year-old black man in the back as he ran away following a traffic stop. The officer has been charged with murder and the FBI and U.S. Justice Department are investigating the shooting, the latest in a series of incidents that have raised questions about U.S. policing and race relations.
As Reuters reports, the video shows a brief scuffle between the pair before Scott begins to run away.
Slager is then seen taking aim with a handgun before shooting eight times at Scott's back. Scott then slumps facedown onto the grass.
According to a police report, Slager told other officers Scott had taken his stun gun from him.
At no point in the video, which does not show the initial contact between the men, does Scott appear to be armed.
Slager is seen placing the victim in handcuffs as he lies on the ground, and then the officer walks back to a spot near where he opened fire.
The video then shows him appearing to pick something up, return to Scott, and then drop it next to him on the ground.
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You decide...
As Liberty Blitzkrieg's Mike Krieger exclaims, the video above is really hard to watch. Not just because we see a police officer gunning down a man as he ran away, but because he repeatedly yells at a dead body to “put his hands behind his back,” and then seemingly plants his taser by the corpse to cover up the crime.
The officer, Michael T. Slager, 33, said he had feared for his life because the man had taken his stun gun in a scuffle after a traffic stop on Saturday. A video, however, shows the officer firing eight times as the man, Walter L. Scott, 50, fled. The North Charleston mayor announced the state charges at a news conference Tuesday evening.
The video, which was taken by a bystander and provided to The New York Times by the Scott family’s lawyer, presents a different account. The video begins in the vacant lot, apparently moments after Officer Slager fired his Taser. Wires, which carry the electrical current from the stun gun, appear to be extending from Mr. Scott’s body as the two men tussle and Mr. Scott turns to run.
Something — it is not clear whether it is the stun gun — is either tossed or knocked to the ground behind the two men, and Officer Slager draws his gun, the video shows. When the officer fires, Mr. Scott appears to be 15 to 20 feet away and fleeing. He falls after the last of eight shots.
The officer then runs back toward where the initial scuffle occurred and picks something up off the ground. Moments later, he drops an object near Mr. Scott’s body, the video shows.
- From the New York Times article: South Carolina Officer Is Charged With Murder in Black Man’s Death
The video at the end of this story is really hard to watch. Not just because we see a police officer gunning down a man as he ran away, but because he repeatedly yells at a dead body to “put his hands behind his back,” and then seemingly plants his taser by the corpse to cover up the crime.
Just like with banker theft, unless people are held accountable with serious jail time, the criminality will not only continue, it will get worse. The rule of law must be restored and applied equally to the rich and powerful, or we are truly doomed as a society.
Coincidentally, this horrific incident came to light on the same day I posted that: U.S. Police Kill More Civilians in March than UK Police Killed in 100 Years.
Now from the New York Times:
WASHINGTON — A white police officer in North Charleston, S.C., was charged with murder on Tuesday after a video surfaced showing him shooting in the back and killing an apparently unarmed black man while the man ran away.
The officer, Michael T. Slager, 33, said he had feared for his life because the man had taken his stun gun in a scuffle after a traffic stop on Saturday. A video, however, shows the officer firing eight times as the man, Walter L. Scott, 50, fled. The North Charleston mayor announced the state charges at a news conference Tuesday evening.
North Charleston is South Carolina’s third-largest city, with a population of about 100,000. African-Americans make up about 47 percent of residents, and whites account for about 37 percent. The Police Department is about 80 percent white, according to data collected by the Justice Department in 2007, the most recent period available.
The shooting unfolded after Officer Slager stopped the driver of a Mercedes-Benz with a broken taillight, according to police reports. Mr. Scott ran away, and Officer Slager chased him into a grassy lot that abuts a muffler shop. He fired his Taser, an electronic stun gun, but it did not stop Mr. Scott, according to police reports.
Moments after the struggle, Officer Slager reported on his radio: “Shots fired and the subject is down. He took my Taser,” according to police reports.
But the video, which was taken by a bystander and provided to The New York Times by the Scott family’s lawyer, presents a different account. The video begins in the vacant lot, apparently moments after Officer Slager fired his Taser. Wires, which carry the electrical current from the stun gun, appear to be extending from Mr. Scott’s body as the two men tussle and Mr. Scott turns to run.
Something — it is not clear whether it is the stun gun — is either tossed or knocked to the ground behind the two men, and Officer Slager draws his gun, the video shows. When the officer fires, Mr. Scott appears to be 15 to 20 feet away and fleeing. He falls after the last of eight shots.
The officer then runs back toward where the initial scuffle occurred and picks something up off the ground. Moments later, he drops an object near Mr. Scott’s body, the video shows.
Oh, and just in case you were wondering…
The Supreme Court has held that an officer may use deadly force against a fleeing suspect only when there is probable cause that the suspect “poses a significant threat of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others.”
Mr. Scott’s brother said his mother had called him on Saturday, telling him that his brother had been shot by a Taser after a traffic stop. “You may need to go over there and see what’s going on,” he said his mother told him. When he arrived at the scene of the shooting, officers told him that his brother was dead, but he said they had no explanation for why. “This just doesn’t sound right,” he said in an interview. “How do you lose your life at a traffic stop?”
The video above shows how... in today's new-normal!
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What evidence was planted? He picked up the taser after the shooting, dropped it by body and then holstered it shortly after.
Not sure what you are seeing that I'm not....
Apparently we need to move "hands up don't shoot" to "just don't shoot.". Plugged a guy up here thirty times and it barely made the news. He was white of course..so that makes it Otay!
You do have to admit that so called police officer is a darn good shot. That dude was zigging and zagging.
Condolences to the family of course.
One thing they should know however is neither the media nor people from New York City give a fuck.
I give a fuck. Not from the media or New York City.
This - I hope former - police officer was a terrible shot. Even with the light 9mm he appears to be shooting a few bullets should have put his victim down at this distance. But he has to empty his gun to put the fleeing man down.
With no more bullets he cannot put his victim out of his misery. So he handcuffs a dying man without attempting any first aid. So he dies.
Serve and protect.
Message is clear to the criminals, don't run away from a cop doing his job.
If this guy had gotten away and killed and raped a few folks that day what would you be saying?
The real lesson is its gank or be ganked. Don't fuck around if you have the chance to kill dont half ass it. What if that cop gets away to kill again?
All the times I have been stopped by a cop I have never felt the need to run away. I just took my ticket. But then I dont roll in a hoodster car with big rims like that.
Yes, don't act or look how you or cops think you should look and act and it's open season on your ass! This is the land of the free!
Have you ever seriously considered what the concept of liberty entails?
Why are you bothering to argue with a child?
Why are you going on this crazy man / woman rant upthread, and the guy's not even a woman?
Senility?
Guess you haven't been accidentally blasted by a thugcop in the midst of a roid-rage 'spray and pray' session. Like those 9 near the Empire State Building back in H2 2012. The cop, like every other citizen, MUST be held accountable for every round they cap off. If it hits a bystander, no more gun for the cop . . . ever. If a cop kills a bystander, they should automatically face manslaughter charges. The rule of law in the US has broken down. Presently, it's just various tyrants paying for their agendas to be implemented.
Congradulations COSMOS you have just racked up the most down votes in the history of The Hedge at this point!!!!!!
Any down votes that follow this post will insure your place as the most stupid commenter in the history of The Hedge.
Good luck my friend, you might want to delete your current profile and start over anew. Any further comments here under the current COSMOS profile will never be taken serious again.
CONGRADULATIONS LOSER!
I think you took something else.
Do you whore to cops regularly or is that just a night job between wait jobs? You are fucking insane. I am a conservative and I can see this is murder. If you think the only choice for a cop is to let a guy go or shoot him in th back you need to get your head knocked back in.
And Rodney King did not lead a dangerous high speed chase theough residential neighborhoods, did not refuse to get out of the car, did not refuse to get into the prone position, did not attack the arresting oficers, did not require being tased twice, and did not have a history of alcoholism and violence, leading to a felony conviction for armed robbery...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_King
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/lapd/kingarrests.html
Nope, he was the innocent victim of America's Waycist Police KKKultur, whose secret oath requires brutalizing Africans with metal batons, everywhere, anytime, for no reason at all. They even have a secret handshake that resembles a noose so they can identify each other when not under hoods and sheets. At least that's what Jesse Jackson, Cornell West & CNN told me.
So far, all we've got is an amateur video, showing a fraction of the incident, just like the King case. The facts will out. No matter what either the KKK or Eric Holder want them to be.
Considering their track record of wholly inventing falsehoods, covering up relevant facts, and smearing police officers, when the entire Progressive Agitprop Machine jumps on somebody, you have a duty as a Conservative to resist the Rush to Judgement.
Wrong on all accounts. Rodney King did all those things and the cops actually exercised a good deal of restraint in apprehending him. In this case the cop simply murdered a man and planted evidence. If you can't see that you are blind.
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=471&invol=1
fuck you.
COSMOS, so you think it is ok to shoot somebody running away in the back and kill him, if the person is running away from a cop, and - in your completely unsubstantiated theory - could later have killed and raped a few folks?
Well, you have a right to have this opinion.
Fortunately the courts and most readers here disagree.
And he had 21" arms and spiky rims. Open season on the nonconforming in The Land of the Free.
Free hunting season all year round for people with rims in the us, according to COSMOS.
Well only terrorists have abnormal rims. And terrorists should - according to some - be shot at sight, without a fair trial.
No problem for me. My rims are normal.
I just hope they do not go after people with glasses next...
I drive a Citroën. It only has 17" rims but I'm sure I would get shot on site if I brought it to the US on the grounds of driving a freedom (French) car.
Taking a beating on the Troll meter divine one
I took a beating in Jr High from those four thugs just because they decided to pick on a white person that day. Those same schmucks would run away from a cop on any other day. I sign my tickets and say have a nice day officer. If everyone did this shit no cop would ever be able to get anything done on their shift. If this guy had run away and killed your child or raped your wife later on you would be outraged that he ran away from the cops and got away.
How many people run away from cops who don't go on to rape and murder? If you cannot compare that number to the number who do, then your entire premise is 100% complete fear mongering bullshit. Maybe you should hide under your bed for the rest of your life. I've had gangbangers come after me too. You know what? There were no cops there to help me and not a one of them laid a finger on me. Why? Because I know that it is best to not rely on cops for my safety and they backed way the fuck off when they realized that I was about to drill lead into their chests. One of the instances, it was most likely because I was white and they were brown. But you know what? Most of them leave me alone, or joke around with me. Why? Because I generally don't look down my nose at them.
But you want a reason to run from cops? Here you go:
The police can be and often are every bit as criminal as the people you are scared of. How would you feel if your husband or son were raped by the police because he "clenches his buttocks?" This isn't the only time body cavity searches every bit as traumatic as forceable rape have been used by police either.
There was no imminent threat to live or great bodily harm in this case, ergo what the cop did was unjustified homicide. I would go to prison for that. You would go to prison for that. But you seem to like your police state. You would trade liberty for security, and I can guarantee that you will be trading one set of thugs for a worse set of thugs.
Yeah, your bad.
Fucked up part is without that video, we probably never would have heard about this.
And they left him laying face down for several minutes to be sure he was dead. Dead men tell no tales (different than what the police do). Love the taser drop. Our police are so honest in carrying out their serving and protecting the thin blue line.
Fuck'em all until they begin to rat out their fellow corrupt cops.
No ambulance, no 911. Straight from murder to the morgue. WE know what we're worth to the pigs.
Like I said before what if this dude got away and killed a few folks later. Message is clear dont fuck with cops. Especially with rims like that on the mercedes. You can be sure this dude was a thug.
The cops have Merecedes? With custom rims?
Oh wait, the OTHER guy you are talking about.
pods
What I don't understand is why a fifty year old man ran. Nineteen, twenty years of age runs, I can understand that. Agree, no, but I understand it. Adrenaline, plus at that age you think you are invincible. But the older ones usually either know better, or in my case have frakked up knees.
Why did the fifty year old man run? Did he take one look at the cop and see his death? Was there something going on at home that made his running a necessity? And why in hell wasn't the cop thinking the same things I am and decide shooting him the back was the best course of action?
Why did the 50 uyr old run? The video didn't catch the part about the cop telling him he would blow his ass away just because he could. I'm making that up, but I wouldn't doubt it a bit. Wasn't but a week ago a cop was recorded in Mpls telling a driver he was going to break his knee caps just because.
Your telling me your assumptions is about as useful as our discussing the music forms of the alien civilization on Jupiter.
Hey douch bag. Do you know that this guy was a criminal? No you don't. He just happens to be black. You fucktard. Try being black for a week. I am white and your right, no one bothers me but if you are a cop and you are already haten on the nigros then why not shoot some indecriminately. I will predict something about your future. When they come for you, no one will be there to sve your ass either.
So you're saying this guy goes from driving with a broken tail light to murder in a span of a few hours? Why would he start killing people a few hours later? What could you possibly be basing that on? He's a thug because he drives a mercedes? He's not a banker, those are the real thugs these days.
"You can be sure this dude was a thug."
You seem to have difficulty with the concept of "innocent until proven guilty."
Why is that?
Because COSMOS got beaten up by four blacks when he was young, and therefore any black guy who gets gunned down had it coming.
Would that be right, COS?
Just wait till a guy that ran away from his police stop and his buddies does a home invasion and rapes and kills your daughters and wife.
LOL!
Oh man, did someone do a recent search of their Daughter's/Wive's/Girlfriend's/Mommy's Internet history?
You're really on one queermo.
Loving it!
You are a sick mind, keep your paper bag over your head.
My girlfriend likes both my sick mind and my head unbagged ;)
yo daddy might call that "miscegenation"
But what do you call it when yo daddy is ur brother?
Ask him for me?
<3
We have the biggest prison population in the world, a budding police state (yes, it can get a lot worse,) and, yet we still have murders, rapes and robberies occur. I've got even more news for you: aside from the other news that cops are NOT responsible for your safety: The police aren't keeping people safe. Your "but, but just wait until...." bullshit is just that, bullshit. Did the cops stop the four people who jumped you from jumping you? No, they did not. They didn't keep you safe, nor is it their responsibility. It is your responsibility. If somebody breaks into my house while I am home, they had better hope that the dogs get to them before I do, and I'm not going to play fair. Why? Because I fully understand that the cops won't be there to sort the situation out in time. It is my responsibility. Deal with it.
You're barking up the wrong tree. Our natural state is apathy and laziness. As we demand for the state to eliminate more choices in our lives, the call to personal responsibility falls upon deaf ears... until there is no alternative but to listen.
Getting jumped by hood rats should have been that wakeup call. Most of the time, when that kind of shit goes down, you're on your own. Yet we have police and things like that happen anyway. More likely than not, you aren't going to get jumped or mugged in front of a cop for the obvious reasons. If you expect somebody else to come in and save you, then you are a victim at heart.
Vaquero, you're in New Mexico. Didn't some cops there, not too long ago, stop some guy, do a drug search and when they couldn't find any decide he neede an anal probe to find his weed stash? Which it turns out was all in the cops imagination? This 2as some kind of regular thing with these cops? But hey no need to ever run from the cops.
It happened more than once in Deming, NM, the land of fast ducks. Yes, there used to be a billboard that said that. Fast ducks. Duck races. LOL.
Great post.
"Just wait till a guy that ran away..."
I don't suppose the excluded middle of merely convicting the perp ever crossed your narrow excuse for a mind?
Nothing to wait for. Someone invading my home gets shot.
Maybe a new message needs to be sent to the cops. Something along of the lines of: "If you fuck with my family, this is what happens"
"You can be sure this dude was a thug."
Hey, if what it takes to make you feel better is to say "It can't happen here because I'm a real American, Sarah Palin said so", then you keep that pointed little head right in the sand where it belongs, but the logic your using could be applied to Waco, Ruby Ridge, and countless other confrontations with Der Polizei.
Hate to say it, but who else is partially responsible...how about those who have managed the FAKE "war on terror". These people have turned the citizen into a terrorist at every turn and pumped the cops up like no tomorrow. I saw a armed personel carrier in Nor Cal the other day with "police" on it, made me sick. No one is innocent.
Sorry but this citizen doesnt roll in a pimp or gang thug's 21 inch rims like that.
My nose hurts from all the facepalming your causing me to do.
There is some value to the comic relief. Tyler should hire him for the bump he's giving to the bottom line with the page views he's generating.
Epic avatar meltdown.
Anyone see any blood in the photo?
I've been around ghetto rats with 20" rims who didn't fuck with me. Some of them were even polite. Not my normal company, but hey, they treated me decent.
"I've been around ghetto rats with 20" rims who didn't fuck with me."
Those guys are OK. It's the ones with 21" rims you gotta watch for.
I'll bet you roll right over and put your ass in the air like an alley cat for any cop to use as they please.
When good cops don't hold bad cops accountable, they are no longer good cops.
That is EXACTLY my feeling and argument.
Why can't THEY understand this ?
There are no good shits that roll with those rims. That cop did society a favor.
Perhaps you will be next to get guned down for "rims" , Dumb ass.
I roll with steel rims and plastic hubcaps that came with my car, and I sign for my tickets and say 'have a nice day officer'.
Why not just offer the cop a blowjob, or pull your pants down and ask him if he wants your ass?
Like a good little slave should?
Offer to suck his dick dumb ass
Seriously Cosmos?!
Last time I checked, those rims are still legal to purchase & own
As for running away, worst case, the dude was resisting arrest. And from what I understand, that particular crime does NOT warrant the death penalty, at least not in South Carolina
Yeah, who needs that stupid jury of your peers (at least the ones that don't have ANYTHING else to do that day)?
Oh, yeah, THAT FUCKING INCOMPETENT COP DOES!
Why there ought to be a law!!!
Filming the police soon to become a criminal act in more places.
Actually, police departments across the country are requiring officers to wear body cams. The issue is that they feel it will exonerate more officers than implicate. I suspect they're right.
Nonetheless, it will carry with it the same spoliation inference in the event the footage is destroyed (same as dash cam, etc.)... which is a death knell for any case. Depending on the case, I suspect it would be subject to FOIA as well.
So no, filming the police is not going to be illegal... expect some yelling and gnashing of the teeth though.
Indeed. Police body cams are already turning up with missing video footage. For now the courts seem to be on the side of J6P when it does happen...only a matter of time before the monopoly criminal gang, responsible for administering "justice" sides with itself.
The police filming events is NO substitute civilians filming police activities.
When a cop drops a planted excuse for their mistaken use of force it's called a ham sandwich.
"Ham sandwich, a slang term for false evidence planted by a police officer to frame an individual"
That is and probably has for a long time been true with a lot of things cops have done. Give somebody power and don't be surprised when they abuse it.
Just wait till all cops are wearing cameras on their uniforms.
Cameras that are linked to the entire internet via your face, as they walk along taking pictures of us all.
How cool would it be if a cop could access your entire social media history as they were hassling you. Coming soon, and paid for by the hysterics induced by our daily dose of police brutality on the internet.
The cop was so afraid of the dead man, that when the corpse ordered him to bring the taser over and plant it on the ground, he immediately complied.
Talking Dead. Happens all the time.
I believe SC has the death penalty
If he gets death row he isn't going to make it to a state execution. Whoever offs him in prison should get half the money it would have cost to store him and juice him out.
Thanks for sharing. I hope its true and there are communities that don't put up with this crap.
If you follow the story, linkies and other what not in future updates if you don't mind.
Regards,
Cooter
Not many shootings in Albuquerque lately. I think the near riots scared the shit out of the cops, and with all of the bad local press, I don't think they're feeling to popular or hero like.
Most of APD officers are moving down to Cruces or out to Rosswell. Not too healthy for them in ABQ....
No worries, give them 6 months and they will be back to their killing ways...
Guess you missed the Edgewood killing. State Police sent the kill team.
I was referring to APD specifically. They were killing, what, 7 or 8 people a year? But yeah, state troopers have an undeserved good reputation. There are still some on that force who want to help people, but, like all other government organizations, they are succumbing to the rot. Of the government, by the government and for the government. It's a helluva rot.
Funny thing is, during those almost riots, APD tear gassed the state troopers along with the protesters.
There may be some good cops you say? I say fuck that bullshit. If they are part of their team and do not call out the corruption and crimes committed by their team players, they're not good cops. They are as slimy as the rest. And don't think for a second they do not see any corruption. Each does and probably is corrupt themselves also. It's a fact that cops will lie on witness stands. In the abscense of a genuine reason, they always have a made up excuse to pull someone over, they do fabricate evidence, etc. etc. So please get over thinking they're good people. If they were, they'd quit the fucking gig.
I very carefully avoided calling them good cops. I said "want to help people." The reason for this is because I 100% agree, if they watch the shit that happens happen and don't at least speak up, they are not good cops. But a few of them still want to do some good. There is a difference. I can point to a state trooper who got hit by a car while trying to help somebody in diabetic shock, then, after recovering from that, was the sole survivor of a helicopter crash while trying to rescue a stranded hiker. Then I can point to the state trooper who shot at a mini van with kids in it up near Taos. This issue isn't black and white.
www.charlestonthuglife.net is a pretty good source for picking apart things. They typically give benefit of doubt to police, but they readily admit it. That said, they agree that what appears to have happened is the cop fvcked up...badly.
Why sure he fucked up. He didn't get ahold of that cell phone, right? If he had, why that guy fleeing him had tried to steal his Taser! Its really that simple, Cops and Lawyers have carte blanche to lie in court without repeercussions. I'd like to see this guys lawyer, David Ayler, spend some time for lieing about what happenned here. And make no mistake, thats exactly what he did..
That's why you stream. If they take the cell phone away, then people get to see that they tried to destroy the evidence.
How was he lying? You think he knew exactly what happened and lied?
You're a trip...no, a fvcking moron.
You're the fucking moron. Making a statement in public, to the press that is a lie, isn't a lie? Fuck You
It's a lie if you know it to be false. If you are a lawyer and going off of what you have been told by defendant and do not know anything else, it isn't a lie...jackbag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vn_PSJsl0LQ
Hey, Kojak! You're an ex-cop. What do you really think?
If it is a traffic stop and they are running away - don't shoot. If you have to shoot - go for the legs and do not empty the clip.
If the civil lawsuits where the taxpayers/city have to pay out in these cases were charged 50% of the judgment against the police pension plan - this would stop very quickly.
Even shooting at the legs, no. If somebody is shooting at my legs and I know that they are trying to hit my legs, I'm still allowed to shoot back. Hitting a man in the thigh can still be deadly and even ignoring that, a shot to the foot is still considered great bodily harm. You do not shoot unless there is actual fear of death or great bodily harm.
Not to mention bullets fired in a public place often wind up hitting innocent bystanders.
Our institutions are broken at almost every level in this country. This case appears to me to be a situation where someone who should never have been a cop was allowed to become one. Things like this also happen when the wrong kind of culture develops in a policing unit, one that begins to see itself in a gang war against outlaws, and/or adopts a deeply cynical view of a society that expresses a hatred of those who serve. Today's media is full of this narrative, and it doesn't take more than one or two outright assassinations of police officers to put every single one of them on edge. Under those circumstances, marginal officers begin to do really unforgivable things in the heat of the moment with the force and authority at their disposal. Personally, I am somewhat surprised that things like this don't happen much more often at this point in the corruption of our entire society.
It strikes me as deeply disturbing that the members of the society that created these conditions reel in horror when something like this happens, completely unaware of their role in shaping the full set of circumstances that cause them to happen. This only guarantees that the situation will get worse.
I know and have known many members of law enforcement at many different levels, and with the rare exception, they are sheepdogs not otherwise different from you and me. But the job affects them, sometimes deeply.
FUCK "sheepdogs"!
I don't buy a bit of that crap.
A substantial fraction of those in law enforcement are military veterans. Have you ever wondered how it is that these people can come home heroes, and then turn into villains?
There is a high price to be paid for misunderstanding an issue like this one.
how it is that these people can come home heroes, and then turn into villains?
They come home victims and become victimizers.
I would be leery of hiring vets for a police force even if I thought that they wanted to do good. PTSD. They lived though shit where shoot first and ask questions later was often the best course of action if they valued their survival. The morality of sending them into that situation in the first place aside, we don't want that on a civilian police force.
And for any cops reading this, yes, you are civilians. You are not subject to the UCMJ for your actions as a cop.
Those military dudes = sheepdogs, huh? Killingdogs is more like it. You are correct that they're there because of decisions made by tptb that they're some sort of fucking hero's and need the best jobs when they return. But don't think for a moment that those same tptb do not realize what they're doing.
I know how you feel, but what do you think?
My point is that such malignant stereotyping of cops will lead us down a dangerous road, and is logically indefensible. Nothing that happens in a large society like ours is ever that simple.
Ask yourself what has changed since the 50's. Many WWII vets returned to serve widely in police forces then. The answers lie in places we do not always see at first or fear to look, and have much more to do with decaying institutions and the growth of corruption and moral hazard in our culture.
It is absurd to point to an entire class of people and call them all murderers. Systems are always perfectly designed for the results they obtain. When those systems are corrupted, so then are the results.
If you are referring to LE, I disagree with your premise about calling them all murderers. Anyone realizes they do not all pull the trigger. But its easy to realize that those who do not pull that trigger, but stand aside and say nothing are as guilty as the one who done it. And thats whats happenned here. The 'Blue Line' thats not to be crossed has made each one of them as guilty as the worst among them.
I agree there's an awful lot of moral decay in this society, but its in direct correlation to policies and actions of tptb. Who flaunts lawlessness? Thhe leaders of the US, thats who. Remember 'kickass' GWB? And torturedick Cheney? Then Obama followed suit. In fact the lawlessness card was handed to anyone with a badge or a big enough checkbook. Ask Jon Corzine if you don't beleive me. Hell, they even introduced the cocksucker as the 'honorable Jon Corzine' at Senate hearings.
The military is a prime example of lawlessness. They shoot the fuck out of people in foreign lands for no other reason than they can. Most of those they murder had no weapons or any intent to have any. Then they come back here, and get police jobs. Who has told them they must obey laws now? I sure haven't heard it.
So now you know how I feel. Now how the fuck do you feel?
What is the fraction? How many of those have been involved in shootings of civilians? If you don't know you are just talking shit.
Sheepdogs work for the farmer who intends to fleece the sheep, then kill them, then sell their dead carcases by the pound to be eaten with mint jelly.
I would say that mint jelly is good, but goddamn, have you ever grown mint outside of a pot? That shit is like Atilla the Hun. Plant it in a flower bed, and the next thing you know is that you need to mow the fucking mint. At least it smells good when you mow it.
They are not broken, but are working exactly as intended. The monopolistic institutions are in place precisely to protect criminal gangs which occupy the various seats of power, and their criminal friends pulling the strings from above, from their law abiding subjects.
Nothing positive will ever result from that which begins with theft. All those institutions all owe their monopoly power to theft.
I've been hearing a radio advertisement recently for State Highway Patrol in my state. They're looking for "US citizens, aged 20-34" to hire. After my first thought of "HELL NO," I felt things had to be pretty bad to advertise on radio to get people to apply.
hope everybody read this from Huffington Post
Here's A News Report We'd Be Reading If Walter Scott's Killing Wasn't On Video
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/08/walter-scott-shooting-without-v...
Many thanks for the person who filmed it!
The only difference between this and countless other shootings is that the cop was caught on tape. If this was unusual, the cop wouldn't have been so relaxed about the whole situation.
I am a former COP and advocate for good law enforcement. Not one COP I know will support this shooting - this is the guy we want to prevent and terminate. White, Black, Green, Yellow... Makes it tough for all the officers doing a great job - his jail time will be ugly - give him a bed sheet and an hour alone.
I read ZH for the truth - no room for fiction. How many COP's shot people vs England is a poor article. The British just did not succeed in disarming the pilgrims either.
When the pitch forks come out for the bankers and politians - the local Sheriff will support freedom. No bigger conservatives - especially here in the West. We will say they all died of natural causes.....
good thing that the MSM is identifying this as a racial issue rather than an abuse of power issue. because this has everything to do with white privilage and racism. just see jesse benn at the huffington post. https://twitter.com/jessebenn he has actually produced a survey to focus attention on white privilage, and goes as far to say that police officers are nothing more than soldiers for white supremacy. cant make this shit up.
ok i have to admit i took you seriously until you referenced a huffing and puffington article. get your head out of your ass.
i guess i just sarc'd some folks. actually not even sarc. i thought it was pretty straight forward. please take the time to read, rather than looking at keywords. this isnt a FED press conference
You flat out trolled em'
If there was a print version of the Huffington Post, I would still deem it unfit for my pet to take a shit on it.
To define it as abuse of power is to blame the gov. It can't be about abuse of gov power because liberals love gov and always look to more gov for solutions. So it will always be about race or discrimination for the MSM. The sad part is some people who should see the problem for what is, also get sucked in by the race baiters and help support their narrative. Some people still believe "hand up don't shtt" Ferguson story was real, even though it was disproven and shown to have been a fabricated lie perpetuated by the MSM.
To define it as abuse of power is to blame the gov. It can't be about abuse of gov power because liberals always look to more gov for solutions
they will do just that exactly!
my hypothesis is that they will look to a consolidated government law enforcement agency- such as DHS, to replace local law enforcement. since people are being conditioned not to trust the racist local cops, it always goes back to the gov. the writting is on the wall. they alrady have the firepower and man power to do it.
Just what we need, militarized DHS agents running local communities. What makes you think DHS agents are more loving and righteous than local militarized police?
i am in no way advocating for this. i am just telling you what is probable, bro.
Good call maskone--thats the plan in place no doubt-- +100
Yes. In most areas it would not require much more than a badge change either.
Look at the video of the shooting. Can somebody explain to me why the officer's handgun does not show any recoil? If the shots really happened that fast the gun should be moving up and down like crazy, and be barely controllable.
Maybe you just need to practice more with a handgun that fits.
I've put maybe 20,000 rounds downrange using handguns of all types and calibers.
This officer seems to have the only semiautomatic handgun extant that doesn't require the slide to cycle every time the gun is fired. Is the video quality that poor? Maybe it is but something looks funny.
The video is terrible quality. I also looked for recoil and evidence of gunfire. If you look carefully, you can see smoke in some of the frames. It is also not unusual for large men with a very familiar, well-fit handgun to demonstrate almost no recoil. There's no way this video is high enough quality to reveal a slider going back and forth.
It's probably a 9mm. Not much recoil, particularly on someone with greater forearm strength.
plus he probably had some hydra shocks or some black talons. the lesser the grain, the lesser the recoil.
The difference isn't so great as to make the gun not actually move.
Can you even see the slide cycling in this video? I sure can't. Video quality is certainly an issue but shouldn't you be able to see SOMETHING resembling the slide cycling?
i admit i cant bring myself to watch the damn video. but the implications of what you are suggesting is maybe these were blanks and this is a staged event? seriously nothing would surprise me at this point. i will say that after shooting a perp, the officers usually are pretty pumped. they have alot of adrinaline flowing. they also clear the crime scene right after a shooting. from the still i have scene, doesnt appear that the officer is too concerned with being filmed murdering the dude. i would think that the officer would immediately scan the crime scene and confiscate that phone(which seems to have been in the PERFECT place and time.)
Even if he were firing blanks, the slide would have to cycle! If the slide isn't actually cycling then the soundtrack has been faked.
If the soundtrack was faked, then the entire incident was simply a staged put-up job.
One thing you can see is when the victim begins to run from the police, you can see taser wires leading from the victim to the cop.
Obviously, that fucking pig hit him with the taser, a scuffle ensued and when the victim ran, the POS cop shot him in the back.
I hope he enjoys the daily ass fucking in prison.
It'd be justice if he did get to enjoy the ass pounding, but you see, thats just for regular folks. he will serve his time in a white gloves place far away from anyone who may do him any harm. Just another way to rub it in I guess.
Yes, that was one of the first things I noticed. It was like the cop tasered him, but the taser had no juice or something, because the guy ran rather than falling to the ground. You see the taser wires in the first few frames, however, they're in an odd position based on how close the two men are, and their upright positions. It seems, like all good lies, the cops story is a partial truth. He just left out the part where his life was never in danger before he shot someone in the back.
BB defending another Cop that shoots an unarmed man...big fucking suprise.
Actually, what I'm suggesting is that the cop never fired his weapon and the whole incident might be a staged hoax.
Funny you never thought that about Michael Brown, he was just another thug. Your comment regarding Michael Brown and 'somebody having to die that day' was sickening and showed little regard for human life.
Actually, even the libtard media backed down on Michael Brown, and now everyone (aside from the most delusional "social justice warriors") pretty much agrees he WAS "just another thug".
As far as "someone having to die that day", I think you may have me confused with someone else.
Being a thug is no grounds for a summary execution.
Yawn... that battle is over, and your side lost.
Yes, Victory!, for the roid raging megalomaniacs gunning down humans like beer tins.
The report is the guy is dead. So unless it's a massive hoax, that might be a difficult claim to defend.
Something is fishy about it. How did this guy just be there to videotape it. The cops had to see him after the shooting. The source posting the video is the NY Times? Time for a new crisis.
The truth is the NYT is part of the problem in America, so skeptism is not unwarrented.
tasers won't make enough charge if they don't have a good stick. looks like this gave enough juice for the victim to be mobile and run from the energy source.
9mm are basically a popgun. the beretta slide is too quick to show up on the camera resolution.
anyone who thinks this is a fake is reaching.
now will Obama use this to get the race war started? maybe.
He really is a fucking cunt with magical eyesight that can detect a slide cycling in a low res video.
yeah--perp killer bullets--
9mm has very little recoil - you are watching too many movies