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Dust Bowl 2.0: California's Historic Drought About To Get Even Worse As "Snowpack Melts Early Across The West"

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It has been a bad year for California whose drought is rapidly approaching historic proportions: according to the LA Times, which cites climatologist Michael Anderson, "you’re looking on numbers that are right on par with what was the Dust Bowl."

 

It is about to get even worse. According to the USDA, the west-wide snowpack is melting earlier than usual, according to data from the fourth 2015 forecast by the United States Department of Agriculture's Natural Resources Conservation Service (NRCS).

"Almost all of the West Coast continues to have record low snowpack," NRCS Hydrologist David Garen said. "March was warm and dry in most of the West; as a result, snow is melting earlier than usual."

It is only fitting that while economists blame a "overly cold winter" for sliding GDP, weathermen blame an overly warm winter for the California's historic drought.

More from the USDA:

Historically, April 1 is the peak snowpack. This year, the peak came earlier. There was little snow accumulation in March, and much of the existing snow has already melted.

 

"The only holdouts are higher elevations in the Rockies," said Garen. "Look at the map and you'll see that almost everywhere else is red." Red indicates less than half of the normal snowpack remains.

 

A consequence of the early snowmelt is that Western states will have reduced streamflow later this spring and summer.

 

In Western states where snowmelt accounts for the majority of seasonal water supply, information about snowpack serves as an indicator of future water availability. Streamflow in the West consists largely of accumulated mountain snow that melts and flows into streams as temperatures warm in spring and summer. National Water and Climate Center scientists analyze the snowpack, precipitation, air temperature and other measurements taken from remote sites to develop the water supply forecasts.

 

NRCS monitors conditions year-round and will continue to issue monthly forecasts until June. The water supply forecast is part of several USDA efforts to improve public awareness and manage the impacts of climate change, including drought and other extreme weather events. Through the creation of the National Drought Resilience Partnership, launched as part of the President's Climate Action Plan, federal agencies are working closely with states, tribes and local governments to develop a coordinated response to drought.

Which can only mean one thing: a whole lot of taxpayer money is about to be spent on the "coordinated drought response."

Here are the details from the Western Snowpack report.

Precipitation

Precipitation during March was well below normal throughout almost the entire West, with the exception of Interior Alaska. Precipitation thus far in the water year (beginning October 1, 2014) is now below normal over most of the West except for some northwestern areas and coastal Alaska. Snowpack has declined significantly since last month throughout the West due to the warm and dry March. Only high- elevation areas in the Rocky Mountains and Interior Alaska retain somewhat near normal snowpack. Streamflow forecasts have dropped since last month due to a lack of snow accumulation during March and an early snowmelt, with most regions now expecting below normal streamflow. Reservoir storage is currently below normal in the Southwest and Nevada, with near to above normal storage elsewhere.

 

Precipitation for the 2015 water year-to-date is now below normal over most of the West except for some northwestern areas. The dry March has significantly affected this picture since a month ago, when far more of the West was near normal.

Snowpack

Snowpack at SNOTEL sites and snow courses as of April 1 in the western U.S. and the Columbia Basin in Canada has declined significantly since last month.

Snowmelt has begun early this year throughout most of the West, leading to significant snowpack losses and corresponding increases in streamflow during March.

Although a major storm during the first few days of March struck areas of Utah, Colorado, Arizona, and New Mexico, the resulting snowpack accumulations have since melted.
Western parts of the region still have record-breaking low snowpack, as they have had all winter. Snowpack is nearly gone in Nevada, Utah, Arizona, and much of New Mexico. Only areas of high elevation along the crest of the Rockies – in Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, and British Columbia – retain snowpack in the near normal or only somewhat below normal categories.

Snowpack in Alaska remains below normal in coastal areas and near normal in the Interior.

 

Streamflow Forecasts

Streamflow forecasts are moderately to extremely below normal for most of the West. Only a few areas in the Rocky Mountains and Interior Alaska are near normal. Forecasts have dropped significantly since last month. This is due to the warm and dry March, which has led not only to reduced snowpack accumulation but also to early melt. With snowpack melting and streamflow rising already in March, less snowmelt remains for the usual water supply forecast periods beginning in April.

 

Reservoir Storage

Reservoir storage levels are well below average in the Southwest and Nevada, while they are near to above average elsewhere in the West.

 

The California state report:

California: Snowpack is at record low levels, which is relied upon as the primary source of the summer water supply. With very little snowmelt runoff, the current reservoir contents will essentially be the amount available for use this summer. The major storage reservoirs for California are at roughly 50% of capacity with very little opportunity to increase.

 

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Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:13 | 5980391 MeelionDollerBogus
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The Monorail!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:09 | 5980110 alexcojones
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Drought Monitor is bullshit regards Phoenix AZ.

18 + Inches of rain here since lst July.

Everyone suffering allergies from plant growth here

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:23 | 5980183 El Vaquero
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It wasn't bullshit in NM when we were the same color on the map as CA a couple of years ago.  My weather station registered no precipitation from spring though to July with many triple digit temperature days and relative humidity often in the single digits.  One fellow claims that the muzzle flash of his rifle started the vegitation on fire, and it was dry enough that I tend to believe him. 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:11 | 5980121 czarangelus
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I guess we know what they're going to be blaming the coming year's bad numbers on.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 20:47 | 5980977 conscious being
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This is where we're headed. The Chekist

It took me a long time to believe, but now I believe.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:14 | 5980136 BlackVoid
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Anything that bleeds the Empire is good. I hope it gets a lot worse.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:54 | 5980312 Nobody For President
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Be very fucking careful of what you wish for.

You might get it.

And if you live in a city or a 'burb, you probably won't survive it.

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:57 | 5980329 El Vaquero
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Yessir, but no matter what, something wicked this way comes, and I'd rather get it over with, whatever its going to be.  I don't want to go through it, but I do want it behind me.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 20:55 | 5980986 conscious being
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Re. Anything that bleeds the Empire is good. I hope it gets a lot worse.

I hear you BlackVoid, but that's not what's going on. This is the Empire bringing the people to their knees.

This is what's going on. The Chekist

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:20 | 5980161 Mister Delicious
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Las Vegas is gonna "dry up faster than Sarah Silverman's pussy around someone who can't help her in the businesss."

RIP Greg Giraldo.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:43 | 5980270 Bollixed
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Amen. Greg Giraldo was the only Harvard educated lawyer I ever laughed with. All the others I laughed at...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:22 | 5980380 GMadScientist
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TOIT!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:21 | 5980170 Frank N. Beans
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Californiapocalypse now.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 07:49 | 5981627 Refuse-Resist
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Dream of Californication.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:22 | 5980175 Old_Dog
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There may be a drought, but the government is not blameless.

 

http://mises.org/library/drought-and-failure-big-government-california

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 20:56 | 5980992 conscious being
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Understatement of the century.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:22 | 5980176 RadioactiveRant
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What happens if US loses California food production?

CA aggriculture is worth US$37.5 billion to the US economy.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:24 | 5980198 Bastiat
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Janet can print that.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:25 | 5980436 NotApplicable
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Or at least loan Buffet the money to print some more boxes of Kraft Mac & Cheese.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:24 | 5980200 El Vaquero
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What happens?  Food riots?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:41 | 5980266 plane jain
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Bullish for Michigan.

Michigan is unique in American agriculture because we are the second most diverse state — behind only California — in the variety of different dairy, meat, fruits, and vegetables generated. Michigan-grown potatoes, cherries, asparagus, blueberries, lumber and many other crops are recognized worldwide. Agriculture, including producers, processors, distributors, is now Michigan’s second largest industry, contributing over $100 billion annually and the only one of the top three industries that has exhibited annual growth for the past decade.

What to do with all that vacant land in Detroit with a large fresh water source nearby.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:28 | 5980643 knukles
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"second most diverse state"  LOL   Been to Detroit lately?

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 08:10 | 5981644 Baldrick
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just stfu! we don't need more people!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:10 | 5980379 TuPhat
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I won't miss it.  Tried to eat some CA strawberrys just the other day.  Almost made me puke.  What chemicals do they make california strawberrys out of?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 20:13 | 5980893 black calx
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Roundup-ready pink slime and yoga mat seeds.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 20:59 | 5980999 conscious being
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Poor Mexicans.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:11 | 5980386 GMadScientist
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Mexico searches people flooding into their border for awhile?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:23 | 5980190 matinee55
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isn't it obvious what to do.  Hire more gov. workers, allow even more illegals & let them vote & finally raise taxes for the ca leftie dumtards

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:56 | 5980319 MeelionDollerBogus
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You're all illegal

http://youtu.be/knHE31FtJww

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:05 | 5980232 matinee55
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I've already told j brown spot to mandate hooking the toilet up to the shower head!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:31 | 5980234 Grimaldus
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Wait a minute, this is utopia for smelts! Smelts are livin the progressive ecolunatic high life man, you would take that away from them and give the water to humans? Perish the thought! Progressive morons must commit environmental suicide! Just forget that the progressive stupid, it burns!

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/04/07/californias-man-made-environmental...

"This is a classic tale of activist government run amok — and, too, of the peculiarly suicidal instincts that rich and educated societies exhibit when they reach maturity. Were its consequences not so hideously injurious, the details would be almost comical. As a direct result of the overwrought concern that a few well-connected interest groups and their political allies have displayed for a fish — and of a federal Endangered Species Act that is in need of serious revision — hundreds of billions of gallons of water that would in other areas have been sent to parched farmland have been diverted away from the Central Valley and deliberately pushed out under the Golden Gate Bridge and into the Pacific Ocean, wasted forever, to the raucous applause of Luddites, misanthropes, and their powerful enablers. The later chapters of “The Decline and Fall of the United States” will make interesting reading.

Make no mistake: The rare, hard-done-by, and rightly protected manatee the Delta smelt is not. According to some estimates, there are no more than 3,000 manatees left in the United States, and, when left unchecked, human beings have had a nasty tendency to maim and kill them in the service of nothing more exalted than speedboating. By contrast, when the Great Smelt Freakout of 2007 began, there were 35,000 to well over 100,000 of the little buggers, depending on whom you ask. And yet the powers that be have seen fit to decree that no more than 305 of them may be killed in a given year. As an exasperated Harry Cline, of the Western Farm Press, put it in February 2012, last year “800,000 acre-feet of water went to waste based on the science of four buckets of minnows. That is enough water to produce crops on 200,000 acres or 10 million tons of tomatoes; 200 million boxes of lettuce; 20 million tons of grapes. You get the picture?”"

 


Oh yeah man the progressive eco-lunatics are loving them some drought so much they are tearing down all the dams that create reservoirs for people so some fish can party man. The progressive stupid, it burns!

 

 

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_23508105/californias-biggest-dam-removal-p...

 

""There are 1,400 dams in California that are 25 feet or higher," said Brian Stranko, regional manager for the Nature Conservancy, an environmental group that donated $1 million. "You can imagine how much rearing and spawning habitat is lost behind them. We don't have enough success stories. This project demonstrates the art of the possible.""


Embrace your progressive drought-suck you f**king assclowns!

 

Grimaldus

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:27 | 5980401 Nobody For President
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Well hello, asshat.. And how much did the Farm lobby pay you for that well-placed diatribe?

Hint to the east coasters and midwesterners on this list:

California Central valley 'farmers' (i.e. huge agribusiness corprate farms) use 80% of California water. If you don't get that, you will buy into all kinds of TBTF corporate bullshit. You got to get that to understand anything about California water. The whole smelt deal is and remains an attempt to keep the CA valley farmers from stealing (YES, stealing) more Northern California water that they can waste with their fucking central pivot irrigation systems and other irrigation during the day, when up to some huge percent of the water gets wasted due to evaporation. BTW, the 'farmers' are not your little family farmers in the valley any more, and have not been for a long time - they are agribusiness big corporate farms hiring a bunch of illeageal mexican immagrants with fake green cards (to cover their corporate ass) and paying a lot of money to buy enough legislative clout to exempt themselves from the recent water conservation measures announced by the governor.

Think about it. This is the same corporate bullshit the TBTF banks used in 07-08. Drive down I-5 from SF to LA (or visa-versa) and check out all the propoganda billboards every fucking 5 miles. Remember, those 'farmers' are ALL big fucking corporations. They are still wasting millions of gallons of acre feet of water every summer, because they are unwilling to make the CAPEX and habit changes needed to conserve while still maintaing production.  

Damn, I feel like I'm screaming into the void, especially to mid-west an east coast ZH'ers that kind of hate California anyway, but you are getting conned. The California agribiz interests have a win-win = the big deal these days is the 'farmers' can and are selling their water rights to municipalities of all stripes, letting their fields go fallow, and blaming the cities voracious use of water on the fallow fields - I can't wait to see the signs along I-5 this summer. Please try to remember - Central Valley Ag uses 80% of California water. The city folk, by and large, are doing pretty well responding to cuts in water usage - this summer green lawns turning into rock and cactus gardens is gonna be all the rage - you heard it from me first.

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:58 | 5980732 August
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>>>I feel like I'm screaming into the void, especially to mid-west an east coast ZH'ers that kind of hate California anyway...

Don't forget the residents of the Great Northwest, since we hate California at least as much as the next guy.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 20:41 | 5980960 Grimaldus
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Well ok assclown, according to you, farms are bad because they use water? And you feel corporations should not be allowed to grow food to feed progressive drone assclowns? And your angry because water evaporates? So you want the water to go down the drain rather than grow food? Do your rock gardens make a good rock salad?

The progressive stupid, it burns doesn't it?

Grimaldus

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:33 | 5980240 Bill of Rights
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Plenty of money for welfare, no money for water... Haha haha fuck you liberals .

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:33 | 5980241 geologyguy
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If the leaders of California were to write me a check for a couple billion $, I'd gladly drive out there and wash/wax the thing.  Statistical FACT:  abundant rain occurs after I wash & wax the F-150

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:16 | 5980400 GMadScientist
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The CA state senate will totally issue bonds (to rich motherfuckers on golf courses) to fund research grants (that won't get paid back) in that area if you have ZooTube footage of the process.

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:39 | 5980256 TNTARG
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What about this?

As if things in California are not bad enough already, now another program of toxic insanity is added to the mix. On top of the horrific highly toxic drought inducing spraying from the ongoing climate engineering programs, and the poisoning of California’s remaining ground water with the toxic industrial waste injection wells, now the whole State is being lined up for yet another layer of toxic pest spraying. How much contamination can ecosystems take before nothing is left alive? In the last ten years the terrestrial and aquatic insect populations in Northern California’s Shasta and Siskiyou Counties have already declined some 90% as measured by former USFS biologist Francis Mangles who has done such monitoring for over 30 years. The die-off appears directly related to the toxic metal and chemical fallout from the totally out of control climate modification spraying programs. Already there are almost no insects for birds, bats and fish to eat. Now the State of California is going to kill off what little is left with yet more chemical spraying which will also rain down on an unsuspecting population.

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/one-more-toxic-blow-to-california/

 

Somebody?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:54 | 5980309 MeelionDollerBogus
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"On top of the horrific highly toxic drought inducing spraying"

Impossible.

It's literally ridiculous beyond belief how Americans invent tin-foil impossible black-magic stories to explain what is obvious, yet Global Warming is proven beyond all doubt with hard forensic evidence and denied by Americans.

 

You people are fucked in the head.

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:56 | 5980322 TNTARG
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You minused me just for asking?

By the way, WHAT ARE THEY SPRAYING ON US AND WHY?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:04 | 5981009 conscious being
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GeoEngineering is real and its happening and anybody who says otherwise is in denial. Just get in line for your taxpayer purchased bullet to the head.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 07:50 | 5981628 Refuse-Resist
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The true believers (in government) won't believe it until the pilots write "FUCK YOU" in the sky, like the old timey sky writers used to do.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:17 | 5980407 TuPhat
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Global warming?  You mean global fooling don't you.  I read the hard evidence you speak of.  None of it was scientific.  All politically contrived to make people like Al Gore even richer.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:31 | 5980462 dexter_morgan
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Sections 5 and 6 of the report from iron mountain. don't need to be fact, just needs to be plausible enough to sell it to the mouth-breathers.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 19:09 | 5980754 Flakmeister
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You take the same science class as Ted Cruz?

Or do you just like living in denial?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:06 | 5981016 conscious being
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Global Warming is the cover story.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:22 | 5980427 doc333
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you mean "aluminium foil" - tin foil hasn't been made since shortly after WWII

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:33 | 5980467 Nobody For President
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The correct term is 'tin hat' - I come from three generations of Oregon Douglas Fir gyppo loggers. There were 'tin pants' too - canvas pants heavily treated to repel rain (when it used to rain...)

But you are correct, todays 'tin hat' is made of aluminum Mine is 35 year old, and it STILL does not leak...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:43 | 5981206 OldPhart
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My aluminum colander has served me well.  It's durable, and I can keep it in place with a ribbon through the handles.  It used to have green paint, but over the years it faded from use.  Pretty much the only green left is on the edges of the handles.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:43 | 5980272 I Write Code
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I'm wondering a little if this is being oversold.  Snow that falls in warm weather is rain, and fills the reservoirs, even if it doesn't show up as "snowpack" figures.  SoCal has had roughly half a normal year's rain.  That's drought, but it's not as bad as some of those charts.

Still, steps need to be taken besides ripping up lawns and taking shorter showers.  Like desalination and lots of it.  Idiots. Dedicate one desalination plant to the delta smelt, then reallocate all the natural water to the farms.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:12 | 5980388 DutchBoy2015
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Can they take the radiated water from Fukushima which will pollute the pacific and take the radiation out when desalinating?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:40 | 5980493 Nobody For President
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Now THAT is one fucking really good question. I suspect, probaby not. I also suspect desal has to be done anyway, 'cause who's to say the rainwater (uptake from the Paciic) also does not have trace radiation in it? 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:46 | 5981216 OldPhart
Sat, 04/11/2015 - 00:04 | 5981344 Buster Cherry
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I tend to.doubt it. Contamination is just that. These can be mere.atomic.particles and I suspect.these particles can be born by water vapor.

I would.not.look.at.distillation.as.a.reliable means of.decontamination.

sorry for.the.periods, but Ive been drinking and Im plinking on a phone.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:18 | 5980408 GMadScientist
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^^ software guy

(you clearly have zero clue how much energy desalination requires, and yer talkin about a state that's already got rolling blackouts and shit)

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:45 | 5980507 Nobody For President
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Mad scientist is right - Rolling Blackout?

California has not had rolling blackouts for one damn long time, since the Enron con.

Where the fuck you get your information, old National Georgraphics?

Gimme a solid reference as to a rolling blackout in California in the last 5 years.

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:57 | 5980557 roadhazard
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It's the interwebs, if you need a story/post just make one up. I'm surprised he didn't call, "false flag".

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:41 | 5980672 I Write Code
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So tell me, Maddy, what you think the problem is.  LA hasn't got to an energy alert in the past year, in spite of the San Onofre nukes being shut down.  Desalination takes 2 to 4 kwh per cubic meter, plus or minus pumping it up from the shore to the nearest reservoir or distribution point, and it makes a nice base load for local power plants that are under-loaded on sunny days when local homes are making solar.

Yeah, if we put up twenty or fifty more desalination plants it would require more power plants as well, I think all current desallination locations are being build adjacent to power plants on the shore, and that's one more reason.  Actually it would be a good opportunity to build more conventional power plants, AND to build some more utility-scale solar plants out in the desert or up in the hills, to help power it all.

The more you look at this, the more of a win-win-win it is, to build desalination plants.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:23 | 5981047 Rusty Shorts
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Yeah, that should fix it.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 23:53 | 5981332 Buster Cherry
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Solar farms.will never ever be a cost effective producer of consistent utility power.

Every solar farm tried so far.has yet to produce what its hype was advertized as.

Ivanpah is one example.that comes.to.mind...

http://www.utterpower.com/an-historic-note-will-ivanpagh-be-referenced-i...

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 06:57 | 5981584 Grumbleduke
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Here's the right idea, maybe?

Why generate power to desalinate (and purify!) water - the sun will do the trick:

http://www.flores-solar-water.com/solution-clean-tech-system

 

The sun heats the ocean’s surface, water molecules evaporate, collect in clouds and return to the soil as rain. The salt remains in the sea.

Our clean tech system for the desalination of seawater and the treatment of brackish water imitates this natural process. Each Solar Water Cell module produces drinking water according to this principle - powered only by solar energy.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:51 | 5980302 MeelionDollerBogus
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Drought worse than ever, melting is early, therefore, Murrica declares global warming to be a hoax!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:19 | 5980414 TuPhat
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Didn't down arrow your last post but I did this one.  Keep up the stupidity but do it somewhere else please.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:34 | 5980470 dexter_morgan
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says on my charts here that he talks like a fag and his shits all retarded.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:16 | 5981027 conscious being
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Dexter and tuphat, his shtick is bogus. Go read his name again. He's sort of reverse trolling. He means the opposite of what he puts up. (And nothing ruins a joke worse than explaining it, but there you go.)

MillionDollarBogus, note, not MelionDollerBogus, was the original, now fading away, down the ZH memory hole. I mean, his name even starts out with Me lion, me lying.

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:33 | 5980466 dexter_morgan
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Georgio. why come no aliens help us out here?

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 07:05 | 5981592 Grumbleduke
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Here's the ABC, talking about climate change in 1977.

“Warm periods like ours last only 10,000 years, but ours has already lasted 12,000. So if the rhythm is right, we are over-ready for a return of the ice,” Smith said in his comment on the January 18, 1977, ABC evening newscast.

He cited “experts like Reid Bryson” who based their worries on “cooler temperature readings in the Great Plains” and elsewhere and the “retreat of the heat-loving Armadillo from Nebraska to the southwest and to Mexico.” Bryson argued the return to an ice age had begun in 1945.

Smith credentialed Bryson saying he ran “the biggest meteorological department in the world.” Although the media listened to Bryson in the 1970s, he fell out of favor with them years later due to his skepticism of human-caused global warming.

 

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/julia-seymour/2015/04/03/famous-journalists... 

Scroll down and watch the video. And fuck yourself!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 16:52 | 5980310 Be_Optimistic
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"It is only fitting that while economists blame a "overly cold winter" for sliding GDP, weathermen blame an overly warm winter for the California's historic drought."

Best line of the week. 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:24 | 5981048 conscious being
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True. Hot and dry in the West. "Polar Vortex" in the East.

Here's why Engineered Drought Catastrophe, Target California Starting at 9:57, See the numerous impossibly unnatural continental US heat maps from NOAA that describe exactly what you are talking about.

GeoEngineering is real and its happening.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:00 | 5980338 kowalli
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let's ask fed to print water

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:01 | 5980345 asfffasfff
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did you notice    the data is from the 1.April

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:01 | 5980346 asfffasfff
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did you notice    the data is from the 1.April

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:32 | 5980465 dexter_morgan
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Are these as accurate as the renowned BLS statistics?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:02 | 5980348 q99x2
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Grass is still green here in LA. Rained again this week.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:21 | 5980424 GMadScientist
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"Sky looks like a skidmark on tighty whiteys and the hookers...are lookin' skeezee"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSte_c82p6U

 

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 02:10 | 5981072 conscious being
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q99x2 - for some reason, they decided to open the Pacific storm door. Too many boiling frogs starting to look up? Or, heating the Artic is only necessary for their purposes in the Winter? ... Dane Wigington surmises that the geoengineering underway is a misguided attempt to mitigate AGW. I don't think so, because even if you assume AGW is real, diverting the Jet Stream north and heating the Artic thaws and releases methane, which is supposed to be a much more significant green house gas than carbon. As long as so many people accept their sky being painted white without asking any questions, we may never know the WHY.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:07 | 5980374 TuPhat
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The data on the maps does not match up in Utah.  I wanted to look more specifically at Texas but it it's only on the top map.  Maybe the data is all garbage just like global warming data.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:10 | 5980378 bigrooster
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Nevada/Las Vegas are far more fucked than CA reading the total capacity.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:19 | 5980412 Bunga Bunga
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What snowpack? Below 8000ft there is close to nothing in the Sierra Nevada.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:28 | 5980445 CultiVader
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Gettin tired do the blatant mogering over this topic, Tylers. How about some charts showing economic impacts. It's the same fucking shit every article from ZH on this topic. Talk about stirring the pot. Cali is fucked, and ag product prices will rise, posters don't want Caliis comin to their state, etc. Give me a forecast with economic charts . Even if the charts are bogus, it will be something differnt. Oh yeah, I know. The charts are gonna be dipping.

Tyler, stop the forced regurgitation of this topic. Blatant.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 19:28 | 5980794 Monty Burns
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Economic forecasts...with charts.  Yeah, that'll really explain what's going to happen.

Q:What do you call an economist with a forecast?

A:Wrong

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 17:29 | 5980451 dexter_morgan
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So now much of Cali is going to be like death valley for a while. 5 years from now when it's all green and lush and growing all sorts of stuff we'll just look back and laugh at the hysteria...................

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:18 | 5980607 Jack Burton
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"while economists blame a "overly cold winter" for sliding GDP, weathermen blame an overly warm winter for the California's historic drought"

Come on! How childish is that statement? Perhaps the author should study geography, he might find America to be a vast nation with a large numer of localized climate zones. Jesus! We were taught this in 6th grade, an entire book about America, where the farming was, where industry was, a map of all America's general climatic zones, a map of where the rains fell and where was dry. 6th grade! Yet, this guy can make a comment like this! Assuming you can not have a large area of extreme cold within the US borders, and an era of above average temperatures and dry conditions.

People in America digress towards idiocracy every day!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=clYwX8Z43zg

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:47 | 5980694 Alananda
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What's your take on geo-engineering, Jack B.?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:38 | 5981082 conscious being
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Excellent question alananda.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 04:42 | 5981538 MEAN BUSINESS
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It would be more excellenter if he defined "geo-engineering" as the "JLUB" / "K.U.A." (Just Look Up and BELIEVE) / (Kill. Us. All.) geo-engineering or the garden variety.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:35 | 5981187 dexter_morgan
Sat, 04/11/2015 - 02:21 | 5981474 MEAN BUSINESS
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Al Gore is not mentioned in the article you link. What gives?

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:17 | 5981154 dexter_morgan
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water? like in the toilet?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 23:42 | 5981321 Buster Cherry
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*sigh*

 

We have reality TeeVee, now we have reality movies....

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:23 | 5980629 chomu
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Cali -> Mexican food, cougars, dust, snobs, gays everywhere, high taxes, sharks that eat you

 

Florida -> Cuban food, old people who cannot drive in a straight line, gators, pentecostal loony toons everywhere, lots of green stuff, low taxes, sharks that just nibble

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:00 | 5981002 arrowrod
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Hey, I'm an old people who used to live in California, now living in Florida. 

I don't always wobble when I drive.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 07:45 | 5981619 Wahooo
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Add slow rounds of golf to Florida.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:50 | 5980705 Alananda
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Too bad hardly any ZHers caught onto the "geoengineering thing" which has decades on each of us.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 19:17 | 5980764 I Write Code
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So tell us more already.

I was just wondering if we shouldn't sink a couple of big nuke plants 100 miles offshore, heat the Pacific up by a couple of degrees to make an artificial "El Nino", and let the rain carry itself onshore.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 19:33 | 5980808 sunny
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EXCELLENT!  Not only will we get rain to CA, but will make it easier to catch ocean fish as they will all glow in the dark.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:48 | 5981093 Rusty Shorts
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@Alananda;

 

"Global Atmosphere Watch"

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwwCSKRq2eM

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 18:57 | 5980729 trip kitchen
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No desalination in de salad nation? That's gonna leave a ring.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 19:10 | 5980755 Lin S
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< Chemtrails the cause of the drought.

< Chemtrails an attempted solution to the drought.

Chemtrails are the 800-pound gorilla in the sky that neither Governor Brownstain or anyone else will ever talk about...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 19:24 | 5980783 Monty Burns
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I'm sure those millions of industrious Latino immigrants doing work Americans won't do will sort out the problem.  Mind you they'll use up a loy of water themselves while doing it. (For drinking).

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 19:36 | 5980819 silverer
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At higher, dryer altitudes, even in cold, you also lose some snowpack due to sublimation, a process where the snow evaporates directly into the air, like how your ice cubes shrink in your frost free freezer.  So that water never does anything for the ground, reservoirs, or crops, either.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 20:42 | 5980965 xizang777
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You're either a weather person or a fellow pilot, aren't you?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 19:40 | 5980828 Salsipuedes
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This is what is meant by ending not in a bang but a whimper. 

(Chemtrails, Fukushima, oil spills, toxic run-off, the great Pacific Gyre? Shut up! Let's just worry about the golf courses for the time being thank you very much...)

 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 20:06 | 5980877 22winmag
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If you believe your standard of living has been falling like a rock over the last few decades, imagine a few million Californian refugees entering your home state.

 

Better yet, don't imagine. It may happen.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 07:43 | 5981616 Wahooo
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Already happened to Washington and Oregon. They fucked up those places.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 20:18 | 5980907 Fix It Again Timmy
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W.C. Fields, "I don't drink water because fish function in it."...

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 20:39 | 5980952 xizang777
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This cracks me up!   I've lived and worked in California.  I have managed a successful business there, and have been involved in Hollywood films.   Californians are all typically arrogant and look down on the low class inhabitants in the rest of the country (you know - those 'fly-over' states that only buy California products and support California's entertainment industry).   It's great watching them becoming humble as they begin to die of thirst. 

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 21:10 | 5981022 El Hosel
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The glass is half full, of both dirt and dust... Go east young man.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:08 | 5981142 Government need...
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Like a swarm of locusts, they will descend on some unsuspecting states.  Taxes and tyranny will rise.  Municipalities will go bankrupt.  And in the room the women come and go talking of Michelangelo. . . or high speed rail.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 07:54 | 5981630 Refuse-Resist
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But will the bring their gender neutral bathrooms, LBGTXYZ, and feminists with them?

OH THE HORROR!

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:13 | 5981151 dexter_morgan
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Maybe we should use this as an opportunity to sell California back to Mexico.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:33 | 5981184 Oswald did it
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Why would they buy the cow when they get the welfare for free?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:52 | 5981234 dexter_morgan
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Shhhhh.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:18 | 5981155 cherry picker
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God is after Feinstein and Boxter, the rest is collateral damage

It is a holy drone

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:21 | 5981158 DEADTIME
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I'd suggest reading the book "Strategic relocation" it's a good guide on which states are safer to live in and more survivable in bad times. Kalifornia is a bomb waiting to go off, just imagine Los Angeles after 3 days of no water or electricity.

I must say I will enjoy watching Kalifornia self destruct, in the end it will be a chunk of Mexican desert that pretends to be part of the Union (which it's already doing) the only thing some of us need to fear is the locusts moving north.

I'd have a double orgasm is a huge earthquake hit to go with the new desertification.....

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:46 | 5981214 conscious being
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Fist they came for California and I did nothing. Then they came for all of us hiding out in "Strategic Relocation" and it was too late.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:27 | 5981170 dexter_morgan
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the gubmit dindu nuffin

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:30 | 5981173 Oswald did it
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I can buy cases of water from Walmart with my EBT card.  Who gives a fuck

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:37 | 5981191 NubianSundance
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Water way to run a state.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:44 | 5981210 dexter_morgan
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In the second category – schemes designed to reduce the amount of sunlight reaching Earth – proposals include firing sulphate aerosols into the stratosphere to reflect sunlight back to space; using unmanned ships to increase above-ocean cloud cover by spraying sea water into the air; painting the world's roofs white to increase reflectivity; and even floating thousands of tiny mirrors in space between Earth and the sun.

They say it like the aerosol stuff isn't already happening. New global mandate - ALL roofs must be painted white, no exceptions!

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2011/feb/18/geo-engineering

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 22:51 | 5981231 chilli sauce
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I'm making over $7k a month working part time. I kept hearing other people tell me how much money they can make online so I decided to look into it. Well, it was all true and has totally changed my life. This is what I do... www.globe-report.com

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 23:36 | 5981313 Buster Cherry
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masturbating in front of your webcam is no way to make a living sweetheart

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 01:39 | 5981432 lakecity55
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Bath House has done pretty good.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 04:10 | 5981526 XqWretch
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Who upvotes these idiots?

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 23:05 | 5981268 Bumbu Sauce
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You geoengineering cunts are a queer bunch.

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 01:59 | 5981455 MEAN BUSINESS
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notice they never get accused of manipulating their data... LMAO

(rath of tw in 3,2,1...)

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 07:55 | 5981631 Refuse-Resist
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Yes because when you call someone a nasty name, it invalidates their argument... says the government shill.

 

downvote for you shill.

Fri, 04/10/2015 - 23:44 | 5981325 jmaloy5365
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Put up a border fence NOW!!!!!!

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 07:56 | 5981632 Refuse-Resist
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Yes, on every border of California so they can't get out.

 

If they do they will ruin anyplace they land, like locusts. 

 

Repel Boarders!!!

Sat, 04/11/2015 - 02:27 | 5981480 masisishot
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Aw gee, dem pesky gubmin skientits just be makin dis here drought up...dis here be fancy schoolbook case for false flag if I ever did seen one...why yessir...

It sure as my grammies shit stinks be Obomba and his commies changing dem clouds just to take away my god given right to protect mself...

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